CVC Church - Tithe Phobia

[MustaffaCuppa]

Since tithing was merely FOOD for the Levite priests to eat, (those who cared for the temple) I wonder how folks come to the conclusion that it could be ANYthing to do with finances, or relevant today? NEVER was it money! And nowhere in scripture does it tell us to give 10% of our income to a church or anyone else! Wake up, you’re being deceived!

[WTU208]

@MustaffaCuppa Yes how exactly does the pastor pass the tithes on to the Almighty?

Oh he just keeps it all like Creflo does right? Hmmmm.

[etherform66]

hats off to the producer of this piece! well done - as for the content? 

[Fringization]

Ahahahaha you people probably give your money to one of those con-artists because you're to stupid to realize the bible is fake.

[bluesmann8]

tithing and giving are two different things not to be confused with each other. giving 2 corinthian 9:7 tithing? a dead law in malachi3

[goodbobby3rd]

the tithing law was for Israel not for us today, we are not under the law. Tradition has caused many denominations to put Christians under bondage to an obsolete law given for the Jews. Also if you read the old law it was for food for the priests not money. I truly believe in giving to further the gospel and to support the ministry but I do not buy my blessings from God thru tithing . I am blessed because I give out of heart that loves God. Please read your bible and understand what it says.

[ndependentwoman]

MORE TITHING MANIPULATION! Look people, GOD DOES NOT NEED YOUR MONEY! Please READ HEBREWS 7:5-12-this verse explains the law was changed-CHRISTIANS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO TITHE. The tithes were not money! Even the Saducees and Pharisees gave,"mint, and cumin." PLEASE READ YOUR BIBLE!

[Blueace12345]

If you give money to a church you are a sucker. If you believe in a god, ask yourself this: How much money does god already have? Would you giving your church money change the answer to the question? Your church is likely pissing the money away anyways and they havnt even proven that there is a god anyways. Now lets go with there is no god, would that make giving money to a church even more of a joke? Keep your money, or donate it to actual good causes like feeding homeless.

[larryxroads]

If you find tithing offensive to your faith, are there any other biblical principles you find offensive to your faith? Jesus said we should continue doing it but not neglect other matters as well(Mat 23:23). I personally like to have electricity in the building so we can better reach out to the people of the community.Tithes fund ministry and are biblical...I want to see the Great Commission carried out and I am willing to live it and invest in it by giving God what is His already.

[jcdshb3]

Sunday worship, christmas, easter, valentines, halloween and almost every other nationally recognized "holiday" is pagan in origin. STOP letting people(2 John 2) tell you what the bible says. Get yourself a 1611 KJV with Apocrypha and read it for yourself. Malachi is talking about the PRIEST robbing the GOD of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob not the people robbing. If your pastor, preacher or priest can't see that than he/she doesn't know the bible. GET OUT OF RELIGION AND GET INTO GODS WORD.......

[DetoxMansion]

I left my church because my pastor was a tithing fanatic! Since I have grown in the Lord I have noticed more and more corruption in the american church. I stay away from church now out of fear! Tithing is NOT scripturel! It is evil and it is chasing people away from God!

[prwilli75]

They call it: Tithe Phobia but all they refer to in the video is giving.

Video starts by him not wanting to give to the church

Then because he doesn't he gets punished in the form of a cop pulling him over.

He visits the doctor and gets a pill.

He then gives money to his family.

The only thing biblical about this video is that he supplies his family from his abundance.

[prwilli75]

I like how they move from tithe the giving, like its the same thing.

News Flash : Tithing is NOT the same as giving!!!

[NotFlaking]

Stop paying and start giving. There's a difference! The difference is Jesus did the paying, and this means he should get the Glory not us!

Romans 8:32...Since God did not spare His Own Son but gave HIm up for us all surely he will also with Him (Jesus) FREELY GIVE US ALL THINGS!

We can go boldly to his throne of Grace & obtain mercy in our time of need!

Jesus is our gift of free Grace, Period

[NotFlaking]

Acts 13:39

..and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses.

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Galatians 3:24 "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ that we might be justified by faith"



Galatians 3:25 " But after faith is come we are no longer under a School master.

[NotFlaking]

2nd Corinthians 9:7 "Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

Romans 8:32 Since God did not spare His Own Son but gave Him up for us all, then he will surely with HIm (Jesus) FREELY GIVE US ALL THINGS.

who can bring a charge against God's elect

Galatians 3:13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law. Only Jesus fulfilled the law. U can't be BOTH cursed & redeemed

Matt 23:23 was Before the Cross

[NotFlaking]

Galatians 2:16 " yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified"

Galatians 2:21 "I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.

Jesus mentioned to tithe 1 time in Matt:23:23 but it was before the Cross

[NotFlaking]

How about celebrating the 7 Jewish Feast, incl.the Pass Over & Day of Atonement? Sabbath keeping Frid @6p till Sat. @6 do nothing. Cuz U are not under the law but Grace Acts 13:39

..and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses

John 1:16 "For of his fullness we all received, and grace for grace."

John 1: 17 "For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ

[The1066Al]

Anyone who demands that EVERYONE should tithe (the poor included) should be prepared to undergo a little test. He should give away everything he owns and move somewhere where he is not known. He should keep just one dollar. He is now completely destitute. He should then give ten cents to a local church. If tithing REALLY works - as he claims - then he should be back on his feet in no time. Any such person NOT willing to do this has proven that he is a liar and a fraud. It's very simple!

[Freethinking2010]

crooks

[Skaz32225]

Suppose if I give 10% of my income to a Christian organization who works under harsh conditions among the poor and the needy, is my contribution then a REAL Tithe or a fake tithe because I did not give it to a local church or a big anointed preacher?

[buddo1999]

John 10:11-14 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 12: But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.13: The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.14: I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

[jourdan9]

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I have a really good video on tithing on my website along with other great information.

[bluesmann8]

2 corinthians 9:7

maybe if preachers would teach the gospel truth on giving there would be more than enough, but yet some still teach the tithe lie. most that teach the tithe are cults and you should stay away from them and find a church that teaches the truth. you might find the real church out there in the streets feeding the poor and giving where there's a real need. giving to god isn't always paying the preachers health insurance or light bill.

[provc]

Notice how clergy ALWAYS talks about giving them money. If the church is the body of believers and we are all priests then why do the clergy (ie; pastors) tell other priests (ie; laity) to give THEM money? Why does the tithe ONLY apply to the 501c3 organization or big building? Is that the church? No IT IS A BUSINESS! Check out this awesome article for an in-depth online study: bible-truths/tithing. Give what you feel led to. If you can't then you are not under bondage to men.

[bluesmann8]

2nd corithians 9:7

[nestorf94]

@bluesmann8 have you read the verse before that?

[bluesmann8]

@bluesmann8 sowing and reaping! have you read where thiefs and liars deceiver's go? well, it ain't in the kingdom. have you heard of the government's paid off , clergy response teams?

infowars

[BroChris225]

Awesome video! Can I use it next Sunday to introduce my sermon on financial stewardship?

[dgoyer]

Jesus died a sinners death for us, and we find tithing to further Gods kingdom offensive? Something is wrong with that.

[mykylc]

Send me money, send me green

Heaven you will meet

Make a contribution

and you'll get a better seat

[keithgroben]

This Video is Hilarious. Tithing is vital to my faith!

[bluesmann8]

another tithe lie!

[bluesmann8]

@bluesmann8 Corinthians 9:7 grace giving not tithe

[servantkeeper]

We thought this video was funny, and made a great point! Great job guys :) Generosity often is the doorway to a more peaceful existence.

[booniesman88]

wow, i read these post and realized why athiest have a field day with christians, we can even speak in a civil tounge to one another. As for titheing, how do you expect the church to pay it's bills and pay the staff if not through tithes? Non-thithers,use what ever excuse makes you happy when stealing from God.

God Bless

[blueskunk12]

@booniesman88

That's not the Biblical purpose of Tithing.

Malachi 3:10

Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be FOOD in my house.

I do not tithe 10% of my money because I believe in and follow what the Bible teaches about it.

The Church may teach other things about the Tithe, but again, that's NOT what the Bible says about it.

I do wonder about your closing, since the Church teaches that those who don't tithe are cursed, not blessed.

[Muerta06]

see your local bible for help with this tithing problem you seem to have.

deception is a disease. together we can find a cure!

[TheAbsenceofevidence]

CFS helps you stop giving to people who try to maniplulate you by using old testament tithing teaching to put you under the Levitical law (now obsolete) so its a mixed blessing, I realised I had CFS when my pastor kept going on expensive holidays and preaching that the tithing law was still valid, but when i brought in grain and food as the tithe commands he said GIVE ME THE MONEYYYY, I have learned to live with CFS and find it easy to give to the poor but still struggle giving to fund cruises.

[InHISWord2]

I can't believe that anyone could equate non tithing to a mental disorder in need of medication.

What is gathered is to be evenly distributed to all the church as to their need. Whatever happened to this in the church? No, they would rather construct a bigger and better building to keep their non profit status than to give to those members who have need. The hireling preachers better check their doctrines of robbing the flock by theft of offerings. God Bless you!

[aesthetictripp]

ROTFL though XD

[InHISWord2]

Tia, No Sis! Jews tithe to levites...not the followers of Christ Jesus.

[schlippy123]

I find tithing offensive to my faith.

[blueskunk12]

It's also against the Bible.

The Tithe was an OT command. It was an inheritance for the Levites, who did not receive any land. The Tithe was also to care for the poor.

When Jesus died, God gave us a new covenant because we could NOT follow the old.

Jesus taught that the OT LAWS were baby food for infants. Now He wants us to grow up. He doesn't want 10%. He wants 100%, to distribute according to need (Acts 4).

But we're so caught up in legalism (like the Pharisees) that we refuse to see it.

[sonnyboyy1]

@blueskunk12

But isn't the bible the same yesterday, today, and forever...so that mean's that same "Law" still apply to us? also where does it say that the OT is baby food?

[blueskunk12]

@sonnyboyy1

God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. But Jesus took God's wrath on our behalf, so that, if we believe in Jesus, we don't face the wrath of Almighty God. And if we are still under Law, then why did Jesus die for us?

Galatians 2:21

I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"

Galatians 5:4

You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

[blueskunk12]

@sonnyboyy1

Read Matthew 5 and Mark 10.

Matthew 5:27-28

"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Mark 10:5

"It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law," Jesus replied.

Jesus didn't say to just follow the rules and commands of the Old Testament. Jews had already been doing that.

[blueskunk12]

But as the Bible says, "there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God." (Romans 3:11)

And again, "No one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law." (Romans 3:20)

The Law doesn't exist as a ladder or checklist to help us gain a good standing before God. It's there to measure how far we fall short, and to tell us that we need Jesus, for "Salvation is found in no one else." (Acts 4:12)

[blueskunk12]

@sonnyboyy1

But if you insist that the OT Law still applies, here are some of them for you to follow.

Lev 20:27

A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death.

Deut 21:18,21

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not listen to the voice of his father, even when they punish him...All the men of the town must then stone him to death.

Lev 20:13

If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, they must be put to death.

How many have you killed today?

[militantprince09]

The Old Testament DOES still apply. However the "tithe" was never a monetary tithe. It was a tithe of food and flock for the Levitical priesthood. There is only ONE instance in scripture where the tithe can be recorded as monetary and that's when someone lived so far away from the temple that they could only send money that was worth ten percent of their flock, and in such an instance the money would be taken and translated into FOOD. There is NO demand in scripture for 10% of one's paycheck.

[militantprince09]

That was a law for the judicial courts of Israel. Even the general public knew this. There was a justice system within Israel. People knew they couldn't just storm people's houses and kill them because they were witches in most cases. They had to be trialed.

[blueskunk12]

@militantprince09

James 2:10 (The Message Bible)

You can't pick and choose in these things, specializing in keeping one or two things in God's law and ignoring others.

So either the WHOLE law applies, or we are free from law and are now under grace.

Galatians 3:3 (NIV)

After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?

Galatians 5:4 (NASB)

You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

[blueskunk12]

@militantprince09

Romans 3:20 (NIV)

No one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.

Galatians 2:21 (NIV)

"I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"

Christ died for us because we cannot follow the Law. Jesus doesn't enable us to follow the law. Instead, Jesus did as He said, and fulfilled the law so that we can live by the Spirit, and not the law.

[militantprince09]

You quote scriptures with no understanding. Yes it is impossible for us to follow the law. However because of the sacrifice of Yahoshua the one you call Jesus we have full atonement. This does not mean we abandon the law. I John 14:15 Yahoshua says that if we love him we will keep the commandments. The Apostolic church kept the feasts (Acts 18:21; Acts 20:16). Romans 3:20 which you quote says it best, the law is our standard for knowing what sin is. If we do not keep it, we are living in sin.

[militantprince09]

@blueskunk12 Sin is transgression of the law (1 John 3:4). We are told that all have fallen short of the glory (Romans 3:23), but nowhere does the Bible says that this is good an acceptable. Yahoshua died that we might have life despite the fact that we've fallen short, grace in a time of need. However, he did not abolish the law. We are not to live in sin as a practice but repent and accept grace and live in GRACE following the law with the help and guidance of the Holy Spirit.

[blueskunk12]

@militantprince09

I believe that where we actually differ is in understanding what the law is. It seems that you believe everyone must follow the old law. I believe that Hebrews, Romans, and Galatians tell us the old law has passed away and that a new law has come.

I believe that John, Romans, and 1 Corinthians tells us what this new law is.

Romans 13:10

Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

[blueskunk12]

@militantprince09

Of course He did not abolish the law. The bible says he fulfilled the law. I believe it is you who are in error.

First you agree that we cannot follow the law. Then you say that if we love God, we will keep the commandments. That is fulfilling the law, which by your own admittance, is impossible.

[militantprince09]

@blueskunk12 No I didn't contradict myself at all. It's impossible to keep the law without the power and guidance of the Holy Spirit. With that power we are cleansed from unrighteousness day by day and receive power to overcome sin which is transgression of the law.

[blueskunk12]

@militantprince09

We are cleansed by the blood. That does not mean we can keep the law.

Romans 3:10-11

"There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God."

Nor can righteousness be obtained by even trying to follow the law.

Romans 3:20

"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin."

I think you misunderstand. Without the blood of Jesus, there is no forgiveness.

[sonnyboyy1]

@sonnyboyy1 thanks the versis you showed me should still apply if it were maybe out country wouldn't be where it is today...thanks for showing be the scriptures

[forgiven1965]

So are you giving 100%?

[blueskunk12]

@forgiven1965

2 Corinthians 9:7 KJV

"Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver."

Do you see what it says? It says that what I give is between me and God (not you or the Church). It also says that if we are to give willingly, and, not out of need.

The Church trying to force people to give a certain amount is not Scriptural. The Church using the Tithe to support itself and missions is also not Scriptural.

[nestorf94]

@blueskunk12. So i can assume you are a great giver right? why give 10% when He wants 100%, or is that just a theological excuse to give God your left overs?

[blueskunk12]

@nestorf94

Instead of assuming anything, why don't you read the Bible? Or open a Concordance and look up the word "Tithe".

See what Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, 2 Chronicles, Nehemiah, Amos, Malachi, and Luke have to say about the Tithe.

Stop pointing fingers while remaining ignorant.

[nestorf94]

@blueskunk12

Ignorant? funny, So anyone who doesn't agree with your theology is ignorant? In my opinion thats the first sign of a false teacher, someone who thinks he knows it all.

I just truly wonder how much you support your church with, or what church is also nor part of your theology? i know you don't do it financially, you must support your church with "PRAYERS" uh?

[blueskunk12]

@nestorf94

If you think you are not ignorant, then why aren't you quoting Scripture, particularly those about Tithing?

Why do you instead try to make this an issue of the heart, when the Bible clearly says otherwise?

Don't you want to read the Bible and do what it says?

That's all I'm asking of you. Read the Bible and do what it says.

[nestorf94]

@blueskunk12

Because i think its ridiculous what many of you are doing with the Bible, using it back and forth against each others ideas, have you read anything in regards to that in the Bible? Useless blabbering? Not that it matter but i have Biblical education to support my believes. See i don't feel like need to convince you about my theology.

You have knowledge, but wisdom should rule above it. God bless you, no hard feelings.

[blueskunk12]

@nestorf94

Excuse me, what are we doing with the Bible? Using it to define our beliefs? How is that wrong? Is wisdom better than the Bible? All I ask is that you read the Bible and do what it says.

But if you don't want to, that's your choice, I guess.

[nestorf94]

@blueskunk12

You really don't see whats wrong with the way you are using God's word?

[blueskunk12]

@nestorf94

No. Maybe you can send me a PM so we can discuss this without cluttering up someone else's Comment section.

[cshayes0352]

@blueskunk12 WOW!!!! you have nearly rendered me speachless. First; doesn't ephesians refer to the word of God as a sword? Being a military man of God it makes sense to me to use the sword against the enemy not against God's church or His children.

[cshayes0352]

@blueskunk12 I don't you fully understand tithing. It's not about your money or OT or NT for that matter. It's about trust. Can you trust God enough to give the first part of what you make to him? Are you foolish enough to think God needs your money? He desires your trust in Him! Satan tried to use the word against Jesus in Luke 4 but Jesus saw through it. It hurts me to see someone who knows so much about theology allow the enemy to use the word against him.

[blueskunk12]

@cshayes0352

You're right, the Tithe is not about money. But the Tithe is not about giving to God. The Bible says in Lev 27:30-34 that the Tithe was FOOD, grown/raised in Israel. That the Tithe was a command from God to Moses for the Israelites.

There is NOTHING in the Bible that changes the Tithe. In fact, Jesus Himself says that the Tithe is part of the law.

If you do not want to believe the Bible, it is not my fault. All I can say is that I revealed the truth to you, but you prefer lies.

[voneditor]

@blueskunk12 Exactly; so sell All (100%) that you have and follow Him.

[blueskunk12]

@voneditor

One thing you seem to ignore is that Jesus told different people different things. He doesn't tell everyone to sell all that you have and follow Him.

Instead of looking for a set amount (be it 10% or 100%), let God speak to you. Let God lead you and tell you how much He wants you to give.

[russkellyphd]

Great except for the tithing title. One of the New Covenant giving priciples is to be generous. Dontd confuse that with Levitical tithing which was only a cold hard law from Numbers 18 which is totally ignored today. Russell Earl Kelly.

[paintinggrl]

I thought it was awesome!

[oj1979]

Abraham Tithed once and it was on his spoils of war. The book of hebrews says that tithing is part of moses law, then in galatians it says you can't just chose part of te law if you are going to follow it but must follow all of it or be cursed. Galatians also says that if you follow the law you have forsaken jesus becasue you have basically said I don't need jsus to get into heavan just the law. The law of the curse was broken when we moved from old to new covenant. Jesus's death.

[SINGUNTO]

Abraham gave Melchizedek Hbr 7:4 Now consider how great this man [was], unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the (spoils). The word spoils in the Greek:akrothinion:

1) top of the heap, the first fruits

a) best of the spoils or crops

2) the Greeks customarily selected from the topmost part of the heaps and offered this to the gods. (It was only crops u can only tithe crops) Look @ Deu 14:22-29 God never said money but he wanted crops!

[blueskunk12]

@SINGUNTO

Right, but I hope you also noticed that Abraham gave a tenth of the spoils. Not what he owned, but what he gathered from others.

His own property, crops, animals, and money were all safe at home not were not part of his (one-time) tithe at all.

For those supporting the Tithe, if that's our example, then we should only Tithe once in our lifetime, and never from anything we own.

[jeanchateau1959]

Where can I get a copy of this!!!

[littlecrazythings]

hah thats a really good video!!!

[heetki]

lol love it..sweet..

[bratschmom]

I LOVE IT!