CBS This Morning - Is America ready for a Mormon president?

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[TheBodyguard777]

Is America ready for a Mormon President? Good grief, we were ready for an antichrist and now you ask if we are ready for a Mormon?

America is ready for the Brimstone if those who KNOW GOD do not repent and start sharing the Gospel of the Great God and Savior Jesus the Christ with boldness and conviction.

The Mormon Jesus is NOT the Jesus of the Word of God (Bible) and therefore a 'Jesus' that sends the lost into hell. Read Galatians 1 and 2 Corinthians.

[bneyens]

Definition of a cult: Has secret ceremonies? Check. Followers believe leader can speak with God? Check. Leader has absolute authority to speak on behalf of God? Crazy, but yes, check! Church monitors followers income? Check. Why isn't any of this mentioned on the lds website? Its all TRUE!

[bneyens]

A "Latter Day Saint" believes their current profit and president Thomas Monson can actually speak with God. If Mitt Romney truly believes Monson can speak with God, wouldn't that put Monson in a position to call the shots? They are crazy. Lets not elect one.

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@bneyens Did you know there are currently 16 members of congress who are LDS? Did you know there have been 74 congressmen and governors who were LDS? 3 four star generals. 14 members of the church served in the white house with Ronald Reagan in positions including 3 personal staff and his chief strategist.

So bneyens, you're saying the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has been calling the shots this whole time?

[bneyens]

@LifeFortuneHonor Yes, that is fucked up isn't it? Having someone else claim they can speak with God, and others pray and "have a feeling" and then other mormons accept it. I get your religion. Moroni's challenge is for morons. I define a cult as a religion with someone who claims to speak with god, has absolute authority over the sheep, and has secret temple rituals. CULT. Deal with it. You people are crazy.

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@bneyens You must not understand the weakness of your criticism. Have you read Moroni's promise. To paraphrase he says I invite you to read this book and ponder it in your mind and ask God if it is true and if it is true he will tell you. That is hardly forcing anyone to do anything.

Christ did not make people follow him; he only invites. I am sorry you don't want to follow him but you should know better than to bear false witness of your neighbor bneyens as a religious person or not.

[bneyens]

@LifeFortuneHonor Yes, I have read it. You don't understand my point. Prayer: Does our profit speak directly to god like it says in the Book of Mormon? Answer: "A feeling". Anyone can have any feeling. I read the BOM and took Moroni's challenge. I didn't get you magical bull shit self-convincted feeling that is required. Its all physiological. You are basing your beliefs off your "feelings". There is no weaker base of knowledge than personal feelings IMO.

[bneyens]

@LifeFortuneHonor Dont get the feeling the first time? Keep trying! You can convince yourself of anything like this. It is complete physiological conditioning. If you REALLY want to believe in something, you will make yourself believe it.

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@bneyens You cannot believe the Bible because God spoke with man throughout it. Also Moroni does not say you will get a feeling. It can be a feeling a vision a dream a assurance a thought and a thousand other things. Yes I did get my answer. I would tell you about it but I choose not to cast pearls before swine (I'm not saying you're swine but I mean you would not believe it). If you really don't want to believe something you will convince yourself that it does not exist.

[bneyens]

@LifeFortuneHonor Feelings are created in your brain. Visions are created in your brain. An "assurance" or "thought" is created inside your brain. Everything you gave as an example of is all in your head. You are basing the foundation of your beliefs off a feeling/vision/thought/assuran­ce of your own mind. ADMITTEDLY. I think that is insane, and the worst possible "proof". Nothing could be lower. I tried Moroni's promise with an open heart, multiple times. I don't believe in the bible.

[bneyens]

@LifeFortuneHonor Its a total numbers game. Give X number of people the Moroni's challenge. Probably 10% are weak minded enough to convince themselves of the bull shit. Make being a missionary part of the deal to keep the enrollment process moving forward. Make big families part of it to boost numbers. Have the Marketing department taylor a message/logo and the Advertising department create television/internet ads. Accounting department keeps track of tithing, and you have a full business!

[LifetreeKolobGnolaum]

Maybe is the first Mormon president but is not first Masons president.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

I like Star Trek as a religion!

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate Hey if that works for you go for it!

Religion is more than theology, more then knowledge of Deity and the system of salvation revealed by him; it is the actual practice of the revealed precepts. Religious people are "doers of the word, and not hearers only."

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor What happens if the words are written intently to be deceptive and promote rape, murder, child molestation, and slavery (which is against the law) and billions of people won't give up the cult beliefs? It is not the laws of the state but is the laws of some religions or cults? Arrest those billions? Absolutely! They'll claim they were just following "the books and culture" when they are arrested. Like child molesting preachers, arrested for their "culture".

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate So molesting children is in the bible now? Preachers don't use that justification. There is a difference between true religion and the false religions of men. Everyone has a moral compass call decrement from the light of Christ to know what is right and wrong. Even if we are taught incorrectly we know what is right and wrong. I am not justifying false religions of man; I am saying God exists and has truth he wants us to follow.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor What is truth? The Sun shines? I do not need anyone else to tell me the Sun shines, I can see THE LIGHT OF THE SUN! What other "light" does living people need? I do not need "GOD" "KULKULKAN" "SATAN" "ALLAH" "BUDDA" "ELOHIM" OR EVEN "JOE SMITH" FOR THAT! Truth? That depends on what you understand as a "truth".

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor The "truth" can be a lie at times!

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate No it cannot! You are thinking of perceived truth. Truth is not relative it is absolute. Just as nobody needs to tell you the light shines nobody needs to tell me that God exists. Truth is not changed if man believes in something or not. There is no different truth for you and I. Truth is reality not what we understand and perceive of that reality. So no truth can never be a lie. People and religion can be a lie but there is truth about God.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor But if no one had ever taught you that word "God", you would not know it! Would you still know truth if you had never heard the "WORD"?

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate

If cangaroos didn't have tails would they fall over backwards?

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor If it is true that you still knew a truth about life without the word "God", therfore the word "God" is irrellevant. You still were you without the word. You were just as good or bad without it! Except you may have done things in your life differently such as never wasted 100 trillion dollars on mosques, churches, synagogues, temples, pyramids, and other EXPENSIVE monuments to dust that "MAN" builds all over the globe! WASTED TIME! WASTED LIFE! WASTED MONEY!

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate Wasted? Do you know what happens to society when there is no religion? Find a civilization that did not believe in God (or Creator, Timeless Being, Primordial Lord, Divine, Father, Holly Spirit, Great Spirit .... and the thousand other names).

Just because you deny the existence of a Creator does not mean he does not exist.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor Yes WASTED! ALL of those civilizations you admire, ALL came to an end too! They wasted all they had for their religions just like the people of EASTER ISLAND! They built monuments too, they ran out of resources, then war against each other, then cannibalism, then extinctions! ALL RELIGIONS COME TO AN END! There isn't one left! You believe in propaganda is what you believe!

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor All those "spiritual deities" that you claim are nothing more than the conciousness of humans. An angry God? Oh, an angry man. A kind God? Oh, a kind human. A merciful God? Oh, a merciful human. A warlike God? Oh, a warlike human! You are just living in a story like The Matrix that you know not what you believe and grasp those old stories and hold on tight! "God and the devil" is 7 billion combinations of vanity of what humans do! A Creator of what?

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor A Creator of what? There are places beyond all that humans know and your "Creator" knows. There are such things as mathematical impossibilities! Nothing at all knows infinite space! There's one impossibilty! 

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate Why do my beliefs make you so unhappy? Why does it eat away at you that I can believe in God? I think your views are sad and clearly not historical nor logical. Our nature tells us that there is more than just this. Talk about mathematical impossibilities, what is the mathematical probability that we just happened? Impossible. Intelligent design is MUCH more probable and is TRUE! God loves you buddy!

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor It doesn't. I am just pointing out the similarities between you and the Mayans. You have idols, you have monuments, you have a human sacrifice belief in "Jesus". Very similar. Their empire ended, shall ours too? It is not intelligent design. There is a probability that there are thousands of other planets with life in just THIS known universe with OTHER life-forms! There are HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS OF STARS! Mixing elements together can produce life.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor Maybe you are unique, but not the only planet of life. The life forms on Earth did come about by evolution. You are a product that came from a stew of small single celled life forms after billions of years of being allowed to develop. You don't know what might be watching you! I am the king of the ants, rather than slaves to the space aliens! Yes I'm loved, because I'm the only smart guy left! All fools jumped off the cliff when the space aliens told them!

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate "mixing elements together can create life"

Yeah not so much. That is like saying that if you drove cars from LA to Las Vegas long enough the dust from the cars would eventually create a hotel. Don't think so. "In an isolated system, natural processes are spontaneous when they lead to an increase in disorder, or entropy" It takes intelligence to create and organize. Randomness will never create order. Not so sure you're the smart one if that doesn't make sense.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor Depends what kind of car you drive. A car with a plow on the front? A car with a backhoe? A car with a cement mixer? Then, YES! You could drive back and forth and build a hotel! You said the real answer of yourself. "You don't think so!" Nature is cruelty and disorder! Your humans mind creates the illusions and dreams that, "it's ok that the lions ate the lambs" after all, lions do eat lambs, and you think that is "ORDER". That is brutality and chaos!

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor Nature is cruelty, brutality, & disorder. YOU DONT THINK SO! But, it is cruel despite what you "THINK". Good people try to make it "order". Sometimes, they make inferior beliefs in the process! Do you think that nature is creating order from some kind of divine or un-divine spark, I'd say you're missing the real truth that you think already. The "it's all GOOD" motto is not true!

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor IT doesn't matter to YOU if wolves eat sheep BECAUSE you think that is what the "divine order" intended. But, others might think that is wrong and HUNT THE WOLF! It's a matter of perspective not your Mayan inspired "all things are good order" belief!

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate Yup, you're not the smart one.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor And you are smart? Is that what you want me to believe? You go ahead and over the entire surface of Earth with churches, mosques, synagogues, pyramids, temples, alters, idols, and monuments because I'd love to watch you starve to death with your shit eating "God".

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor Your "GOD" is a RETARD! That's right! I said it, retard! Not only can't your "God" NOT plant a bush but He thought "HE WAS ONE"! HAHAHAHAAHA!!!!

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor Yes, I love Star Trek! But, do you know what I hate? All the ghosts of KULKULKAN and every other insane SPIRITUAL HUMAN RELIGION trying to invade my house! SOOOOOOOOOOO...Let me tell you what happens to those things all of you "think of" including the ones that go BUMP IN THE NIGHT! MEET MY FRIEND...BLACK HOLE DEATH! BLACK HOLE DEATH SAY HELLO TO THE NICE STARS AND LIGHTS! GOODBYE TO YOU STUPID HUMANS AND ALL YOUR "GOD'S"!

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate Don't worry you don't have to love God for him to love you.

Don't forget to take your meds tonight pilate.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor I see. You believe that there is a "God" that rules over the mess of planet Earth but you think I am the crazy one! So, you made yourself like the Mayans did then? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor SO, which God do you believe in of which religion?

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor I bet you that last believer of Amun Ra was one of the best damned believers there was! That guy was out there saying, "Amun Ra" tell me that I am alright! Amun Ra, what shall become of me? Amun Ra, why is the world like it is?" But over time, there is no such thing as that guy and there is no such thing as Amun Ra. IS there?

[Toastcano718]

The world doesn't want Mitt Romney as a president. Not because hes a Mormon but because hes a dumbass..

[hanerliz]

The faggot with the white hair is so ignorant.

[hunrgyhomer]

I really hope he does not make Coffee illegal, if he becomes president, like he wants to do with Marijuana.

[realinfowarrior]

This is really a non-issue we should be discussing in light of America's current situation. The big 3 media sources are doing their best to place Romney as president, and use this "talking point" to pull the wool over our eyes to hide the real issues Romney is a poor choice as president. THEY focus on these non-issues so that WE focus on the same issues, so instead of discussing Romney's true shortcomings like him voting for OPEN BORDERS and CARBON TAXES.

[blabbyblah1]

Is America ready for a Mormon president? No. Ideally only agnostics and atheists would be allowed in politics. Religious people have no moral center.

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@blabbyblah1 "Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail to the exclusion of religious principle." -George Washington's Farewell Address. Religious people have no moral center? Really? You must be gay.

[llegalPlayer]

@CBSNewsOnline Here MITT'S Mormon God Curses the USA Indians with Black skin for rebelling against him.

". . . wherefore, as they were WHITE and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a SKIN of BLACKNESS to come upon them (2 Nephi 5:21)"

Here the MORMON GOD turns some of the USA INDIANS back WHITE Skinned because they REPENTED

"And their curse was taken from them,and their skin became WHITE like unto the Nephites" (3 Nephi 2:15)

[wolfgangalbert]

" Mormon leaders beginning with Brigham Young instituted a policy of excluding most people of black African descent (regardless of actual skin color) from Priesthood ordination and from participation in temple ceremonies. These practices continued in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) until September 30, 1978, when the highest bodies of church leadership lifted the ban after stating they had received a revelation."-wikipedia

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@wolfgangalbert Joseph Smith ran for president with the first political platform ever and part of that platform was to abolish slavery. People of African descent did join the church by being baptized. Mormons faced persecution because they allowed blacks to join the church that was not done among other denominations. Christ told his disciples only to teach to the Jews Matthew 10:5-6 . Why? Don't know. His ways are higher than ours later He authorized preaching to the gentiles Acts 10.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

Ancient Mayan man says "Kulkulkan, shall we raise taxes?" Kulkulkan said, "what do I care? I'm a fictional character, you moron!"

[IAMPontiusPilate]

Religion has no place in politcs.

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate A religion does not but clearly the religion of America does. Franklin said the American religion is belief in a Creator, that He has a revealed code of behavior, He holds mankind responsible for our actions, mankind lives beyond this life, and that we will be judged according to our conduct. No particular religion but not without religion. With a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor So what most people really like is the American law system along with other things of course.

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate Yeah absolutely, common law is something I thing almost all Americans can unite around. We can see the benefits of being good and respecting one another. I think it is important to note that Cicero was not Christian nor Jewish but he believed that the true government came from God. Believer in God or not I think all can understand the importance of these principles in our society.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor I would have to answer "God" was a word that was thrown around alot for about any purpose anyone wanted to push over a long time; for goodness or not. I can believe in the goodness of a law for humans and not believe in God or Satan. Try telling billions of others that as they are the water pouring out of the busted dam and their lives are wrecked after religions fooled them all with "STORIES". The Inquisition and Dark Ages was no "special time" for Jesus! :)

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor The propaganda of governments for ancient times was the religions themselves! I can't help it everyone gave their LIVES & SOULS to inferior religious beliefs! The nazi's religious beliefs were not much different from any other religions apart from the flags or symbols! Your "magic bell" is not much different from the other guy's "magic bell". They are all human creations to justify good and bad thoughts, emotions, or actions with a sprinkle of magic dust!

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate You are dead right that historical religion has done some extremely horrible things. I think they can be explained as they come from a source of power that is contrary to the source of power of true religion. Good vs. Evil is God vs. Devil. I think what happened in those dark ages was that the people opposed God and were lead away by the Evil one. Christ taught the apostles that this would happen. I think that most would agree there is a real battle between good and evil.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor That is what people were taught. But there is no one being crafty enough to fool 7 billion UNLESS, that being can convince you in many different cultures that there is this WORD...and this word means...immortality! Yes, that's it! And this word also means...love. Yes, that too! And that word also means..(you get what I am getting at there) LEADING people down the road to extinction by allowing them to believe that what they believe, even if it IS wrong, is ok!

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor Sorry if you don't like the rant. I trash most things that needed to be trashed! I'm sure Elohim or Satan cannot do anything about it! Sorry Mormons, humankind will not survive by Elohim, jesus,... and Joe Smith? Are you kidding, Joe Smith? These stories are getting to be ridiculously obvious scams! Why not just believe in SUPERMAN?! I like the good ole' American "angel"! Superman! He must be out there fighting crime right now from his ice castle!

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor So in the absence of Superman, United States law is the best I have for now. And I intend to keep it that way!

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@IAMPontiusPilate Unless of course that you are wrong and there is a God and an afterlife.

But you can live US law until you are faced with that reality :)

Best wishes. ps. Pilate should have done more. He knew the truth!

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor I never said there wasn't an afterlife". I did say that "God" isn't religions. Religions are just political parties, corporations, or "gangs" that humans invented! Some are BIG gangs, but gangs nontheless. "Joe Smith" is not the judge of everyone! Would "Joe the Plumber" be the judge of everyone? HAHA! I hope not! Pilate and Jesus are about the same age if that the afterlife thing is true! By this time, it might not matter at all what happened 2,000 years ago!

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor To believe in a spiritual diety but reject religion of caveman does not make me atheist! I can invent a new religion better than old ones! My religion involves a great deal of planting plants not only on this world, but across the galaxy. What's Captain Kirk's religion, I guess you could ask!? A "know thyself" religion! While Abrahamic religions are a "give up thyself" or "surrender your souls & die" approach. I prefer "know thyself" and "be thyself." instead.

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor Yes, U.S. law was better than Bible, Quran, or Torah law. It is ridiculous what those religions wanted and try to do. Should Buddism replace the Constiution? NO! That is ridiculous! Then, why did those fools want the Abrahamic books to replace the Constution? They thought they could just march right in, take over the property, money, & people's will with a few words from their "holy" books as if we would fall so easy as their weak knees were! They are FOOLS!

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor My idea is to create a better religion than the past. The old ideas of "heaven" ended! After all, humankind is not still building pyramids all over the planet Earth and bowing to the sky, believing in gargoyles, or people with wings and halos, as if that did any good anyway! Therfore, as a human I came up with a better religion based off of all available information. Now, I know what you're saying, I heard this type of thing before...

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor The new religion better suits the needs of prosperity, freedom, & law for humans than the previous religions did & IS more inspirational than let's say "a guy that gets beat to death to save your soul after he said some nice things." Whether or not he was the son of a word called "God" or whether he existed or not. The "saving people from their sins" concept IS NO justification for a sacrifice of an innocent human being! Then, making an alter out of that cruel misguided act!

[IAMPontiusPilate]

@LifeFortuneHonor Then, taking that idol and building upon that with many other idols to fool many billions to give their money for a concept that makes people sick in the head & only destroys people & plants! The ancient religions are repulsive! The new religion will be planting trees on planet Mars far beyond the days that Earth will have too much fond remembrance of such nonsense as these inferior religions from ancient cavemen! "God" and "Satan" are just a words! That's all!

[rebello4610]

(flies off into the forest smiling...)

[Damitra1106]

A lot of people told me that they are moving to another country if Mitt Romney becomes president. Is is a good idea or not?

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@Damitra1106 Good thing for sure. We don't want bigots like that in America.

[Damitra1106]

@LifeFortuneHonor Yeah....Very true :)

[restequi]

Inconsistent with his own religions beliefs!! Says it all!!

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@restequi He has never changed his personal beliefs. How he regarded legislation did change and he has explained why.

[restequi]

Ron Paul 2012 - Christian Baptist - Prolife - Anti War Anti BIG Govt - anti Taxation without Representation, and a Honest True Constitutionalist!! will bring home troops as fast as the boats can come.. Gets more donations & contributions from active military then all candidates combined!!

[johnny05x]

i don't want a president pushing their belief on god down my throat and tell me how i should live my life and I was raised catholic.

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@johnny05x Has any mormon elected person done that? Has any president of any religion done that?

[AdiosObama]

How come no questions about Obama believing in Islam. One way news media, SHAME.

[eBe4IXcept]

They don't pass the "guy you'd most like to have a beer with" test.

[TheImpeacher]

Obama believes in allah, even though he ddoesn't have enough balls to admit it. Nothing wrong with Mormon.

[TheAnthonywc]

no one wants a mormon president, when your mormon, if a couple gets married, have a baby get divorced witin a year, that baby has to be put up for adoption, i know i was deployed to iraqwith a unit from saltlake utah.

[LifeFortuneHonor]

@TheAnthonywc You lie. It's not very Christlike to bear false witness of your neighbor.

[atcaleb]

I don't determine a person's worth by what religion the person follows. To me religion and race and sex and sexual preference or age don't have any bearing on these things. What choices have those people made throughout life is the important thing to ask.

[hajqbvii]

the main stream media and GOP raised the same question on JFK.....hey guys, we're in the 21st century.....my not voting for Mitt is because he really is out of touch with main street!

[Mojo3192]

My dislike of Romney has nothing to do with his religion but rather his politics. I would think for many voters religion is a non-issue.