I hate this question. Kobe may be a better player but yet they are very different players. You can compare Kobe and Michael, but you cant compare LeBron to either one of those guys.
@kiLLjoy24CALI dont place lebron behind kobe hes not even an all time great like kobe or jordan lebron shouldnt even be mentoned as one of the greatest players of all time not hating just the truth i dont see whats so special about this guy nothing
@PTCRiPzZ112 fuck no kid prime kobe would most likely tear up jordan dude prime kobe was unstoppable im saying the truth he wont even miss a shot when hes a hot prime kobe to me is like the best prime player ever
Notice how Jordan says "But LeBron has bigger upcoming, he could very well be better than .... a lot of players" It sounded like he was going to say Kobe and then just thought nahhh. Also saying "very well be better than a lot of players" seems to mean Jordan thinks there are several players better than LeBron other than just Kobe at this moment. I'd trust the Greatest of all time on something like this. Notice he didn't say LeBron isn't good, he just thinks there are better.
who cares what Jordan thinks? MJ is the best PLAYER of all time, but his eye for talent is absolutely terrible....as GM of the Wizards in 2001, he selected Kwame Brown with the #1 pick.......Kwame Brown is a terrible player, but Jordan thought he was awesome, thats why he chose him. I repeat, Jordan is the best player of all time, but he cant tell a good player from a bad player......no wonder he picked Kobe, he has no idea what talent is
@hounddog83 In fairness, a lot of people thought Kwame Brown was going to be better. Because Garnett and Kobe were doing well, for a few years after jordan retired, every guy coming fresh out of high school was really hyped up. Remember Darius Miles? Kwame Brown and Tyson Chandler both received the same kind of hype. Kwame Brown definitely turned out to be the biggest flop, but Jordan wasn't alone in thinking he'd be better
@UltimateCenaFan521 Lol you are a retard. Wade is not in the choices and not even close to get IN the choices. You are dumb enough to compare Wade to Kobe?
@Zabarteismyname xD dude calm down i was just saying. I like Dwyane Wade im not saying hes good enough to be compared to Kobe (even though he kinda is) i'm just saying that he could be in this conversation.
@Zabarteismyname lol only an idiot would think the heat would win the championship in the first year of the big three basketball is about about combinations whih develop over years anyone who knows sport understands that and dont use kobes rings to say he is better because that argument is useless, im not saying wade is better than kobe overall, just right now in their careers wade is playing better
@DROWNlNGTADPOL3 then you heat fans are the idiots. Heat fans told everyone that the heat would win 6 straight and win a championship last season. Wade playing better? That's just a joke. Have you seen kobe play? Or even if Wade is playing better. He could never school kobe. Its like saying young Kobe schooled MJ.
@DROWNlNGTADPOL3 My lakers were swept by the Mavs. Kobe played great but the Mavs were just playing better and yer Wade playing better thats why they lose even though they have Lebron and Bosh. One thing in common? They got beat by the same team. It take a team to win not only one player. Dont expect miami to win a championship after one season? They went to the Finals doesnt that mean they have Chemistry? And in fact Boston's big three won with their first season. Dont make excuses. Okay buddy?
@Zabarteismyname played great??? lol kobe put up 17 points in each of the last 2-3 games of the series against dallas. he played terrible like the rest of the team. he could have at least played well himself. then maybe id give props
@dcdrumsinc Let's see. Who scored double digits in those 4 games? kobe scored 36 game 1. His teammates barely scored double digits. Have you watched the series. It fucking hard to scored 17 on dallas when you see their defense and at least Kobe didnt score 6 points for his team.
@dcdrumsinc Kobe doesnt win series or rings...his team does. We all know this since his days with Shaq and the finals where Artest and Fisher had to bail him out again. The Finals before that Gasol was the real mvp.
@yogd4life REALLY!!?? Take Kobe out of the line-up and see what happens... Don't worry, I'll wait. Do you think the Lakers could've won all those championship without Kobe? If you do, you're lying to yourself. And why would they give the finals MVP to Gasol? Kobe averaged 28 PPG. FYI Kobe avg 21, 29, 26 PPG during the Shaq and Kobe era playoffs. Tell me that didn't help them win championship. LMAO
@yogd4life u stupid dumb fuck lakers needed kobe to win the championships fuck u talking about every star player has a supporting cast on their team u stupid know nothing about basketball stop watching sports go back to hating on kobe
instead of comparing kobe to lebron. it makes more sense to compare d wade with kobe after they both have rings and wades the superstar while lebrons the role player and benchwarmer in 4th quarters
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I don't know why people keep bringing this up. Kobe has an all round game and has proven he can win. When the Lakers loose, he plays harder and gets motivated during the off-season. Lebron can't play D, only help side D, he can't make the tough shots in close games (where was he in the fourth quarters during the finals or in the Eastern Championships the years before?), blames others for a loss, plus he proved he couldn't win without being D-wade's bitch in South Beach. Period.
I don't know why people keep bringing this up. Kobe has an all round game and has proven he can win. When the Lakers loose, he plays harder and gets motivated during the off-season. Lebron can't play D, only help side D, he can't make the tough shots in close games (where was he in the fourth quarters during the finals or in the Eastern Championships the years before?), blames others for a loss, plus he proved he couldn't win without being D-wade's bitch in South Beach. Period.
@cito423 Lebron cant play d? hahah he locked down DROSE, the fastest player in the NBA and the MVP in the ECF....Cant make clutch shots? Did you watch him against the Celtics and the Heat in the playoffs this season. I know you werent watching Kobe because his ass was watching Lebron own while his ass was back in LA because he got SWEPT...And Lebron's overall game is WAY better than Kobe's you dipshit
The GOAT says Kobe is better... This debate should've been over long ass time ago, matter of fact this should never have started, Kobe is second to MJ and no one can take that away from him...What would lebron say if he was asked would you rather have 2 finals mvps or 2 mvps...? ask yourself that question before bandwagons start bringing that bullshit up..
@LiLSiCk916 Kobe is second to MJ? I guess Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russel, Kareem Abdul-Jabar, Magic Johnson, Jerry West, Isaiah Thomas, Shaq, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen, Julius Irving, Larry Bird, Moses Malone, Penny Hardaway, James Worthy, Karl Malone, Reggie Miller, Kenny Smith, John Stockton, Hakeem Olajuwon, Dominique Wilkins, Clyde Drexler, Robert Parish, Robert McAdoo, Kevin McHale, Bill Walton and Walter Frazier never existed. Kobe is second to this dick.
@kiidscenic LMFAO Wilt? the most overrated player of all time, played in an era where there was only 2 black people allowed per team sorry buddy but black people made the sport what it is today, lmfao go look up a game of wilt chamberlins and look at the size and height difference between him and everyone else on the court he's like 2 feet taller than everyone lmfao GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE with dat overrated trash !! NEXT!! Bill Russell Same thing i just said about wilt..
@kiidscenic NEXT! Magic Johnson and Jerry West?? LMFAO Kobe is the all time leading scorer in points for lakers history! Jerry west and magic themselves claimed kobe as the best laker EVER, so WHY THE FUCK WOULD I LISTEN TO A STUPID FUCK LIKE YOU WHO KNOWS SHIT ABOUT BASKETBALL!?! When the players themselves are agreeing with what im saying LMFAO NEEEXT! Patrick Ewing ? How Many championships did he win? How many MVP's did he win? Does he have more overall career points than Kobe? NOPE! NEXT!!!
@kiidscenic CHARLES BARKLEY!?!? LMFAO That fat fuck himself said Kobe is top 5 greatest player of all time ahead of himself...smh your arguements are weak as FUCK! LMFAO NEXT! PIPPEN!?!?!?!? THE AL MIGHTY SIDEKICK!?!? LMFAO DUDE IM NOT EVEN GONNA COMMENT ON THAT ONE YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THAT ONE YOURSELF LMFAO!! OH MAN!! NEXT!! Larry BIRD?!? GTFO! Bird is an overrated nba product of white basketball players who played in an era where there was maybe ONE good small forward in the league and
@kiidscenic when ever he played DR J he always got that ass smacked, Zone defense was not an option in birds era, therefore making him unstoppable unless he played against some one good and wtf 3 rings to 5 rings..? NEXT!! SMH! BILL WALTON!?!? WOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA OMFG! YOU JUST LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!!! BILL WALTON!? Dude he couldnt even healthy for one whole season? Your telling in a game 7 finals game u would pick bill walton over kobe?!?!? STFU!!NEXT!!
@LiLSiCk916 He couldn't even healthy? Your telling in a game 7? Are you mentally challenged my good sir? Learn how to write in proper English before you get on the internet.
@kiidscenic LOL okay you still have no point in your argument..smh you did get wrecked buddy, LOL and all of a sudden just cuz i forgot to type one word down i cant speak proper, shut the fuck up you obviously know what im trying to say you act like nobodies ever made a typo you stupid bitch.. You keep bringing up magic johnson, "Kobe is the greatest laker of all time" - Magic ..Nuff said.. Shaq?
@kiidscenic Oh yeah and lets not forgot who is #2 on that all time playoff scoring list right under MJ...Do i have to say his name or is not already obvious(Kobe) ..I cant believe you said rings don't matter in basketball.. If rings didn't matter LeBron would still be a cavalier, MJ wouldnt have been the GOAT, Think about it if he didn't have the 6 rings and 6 finals mvp under his belt, who would he be? Just another great player not the GOAT, your knowledge of basketball is fucking hilarious bro
@LiLSiCk916 I said if rings were what it was all about, not that they didn't matter. Learn how to read. And it's speak properly, not speak proper. You still fail at that. MJ is the GOAT because of his achievements, but also because he changed the game of basketball. Even if he hadn't won his rings, his style of play would have been remembered and he still would've went down has one of the greatest players ever. And like I said, if rings were what it was all about,Bill Russell would be GOAT. 11>6
@LiLSiCk916 And alright, just because he has 2nd most points in the playoffs he's the 2nd best ever? I think not. I think all time leading scorer would come before that. I think most championships ever would also come before that. Kobe is not the 2nd best player ever, and anyone with even a shred of knowledge about basketball would agree. Now stop talking you baby ass nigga.
@kiidscenic Oh and the starting lineup when Russell played consisted of 4 black guys and 1 white guy, so that bull about two black guys per team is false.
@kiidscenic man im done i just wrecked ur ass kid, your just blurtin out names outta ur ass.. stop fucking hating bitch, and lol why you frontin for nigga you got a hole between your legs chump..
@LiLSiCk916 Lol you call that wrecking when you didn't even address how Kobe is better than any of those people? Half of every comment was you cursing. Wilt won 2 Championships, 4 MVP's and led the league in scoring 7 times. And there were people near his size, he wasn't a freak of nature. Magic Johnson, one of the best passers of all time, who also scored with ease, is a man with something called modesty. He's not going to go out and say he's better because he doesn't have to. Same with West.
@LiLSiCk916 Shaq, the reason, why Kobe has 3 of his rings. Enough said. Chuck, was one of the only players in Jordans time that could keep up with Jordan. Scottie Pippen, one of the greatest SF of all time, and your calling him a sidekick. Jordan would have never said he was a sidekick, because basketball is a team sport, but you know nothing about that. Larry Bird, I shouldn't even have to say. One of the best shooters to ever play the game. James Worthy, one of THE best Lakers ever.
@kiidscenic Idiot. Do you really believe Shaq would have won his 3 rings without Kobe. The same argument could easily be made for Jordan, not winning his 6 rings without Pippen. But of course, now you refer to basketball as a team sport, even though you gloat how "pathetic" or impressive it is for Kobe and Lebron to be scoring the most points for their respective teams. You contradict yourself.
@Bernankeful Dude are you seriously getting in to this one too? I said it was impressive that LeBron could score and dish out assists with the players he plays with, and how unimpressive it is for Kobe to not get the same numbers, with players way lesser than the players LeBron plays with. Proves how much you actually read.
@LiLSiCk916 Reggie Miller, 2nd all time most 3's, enough said. John Stockton, best passer ever. Kareem Abdul-Jabar, probably the best Laker ever, all time leading scorer. Dominique and Drexler, MJ's biggest competition when they played. Walter Frazier, one of the most amazing scorers in NBA history. Your arguments prove not only that you know nothing about basketball or it's history, because all you do is write CAPS, but that you are just a Kobe dick riding faggot. Now I'M done, and so are you.
y r yall acting like kobe just started playing ball last season? they got swept this. kobe old that. he is going into his 16th season and is still among the top players. did yall just start watching last season, becuz if u did u would realize that the lakes were back to back defending champs and kobe got his 5th ring. lebron can pad the stats all he wants, but until he starts playin like kobe, he wont win shit. which is the point of the sport i thought.
@matmladin1 Are you kidding bro? Who was 2nd in scoring last season? LeBron. Not sure where D.Wade was at but I know for a fact he was over Kobe. Who was the only non PG player to average 7 apg last season? LeBron. Who didnt get swept in the 2nd round of the playoffs. D.Wade and LeBron's Heat. Which team lasted longer than any team did in the post season against the Mavs? D. Wade and LeBron's Heat. There are 3 scorers on the Heat and they both average 25+. Kobe's the only scorer on LA and he cnt
Wade was only .2 higher in PPG than Kobe last season. LeBron should average 7 assists, he's the basically the PG for the Heat and he's passing to Bosh and Wade. Actually the Blazers lasted 6 games against the Mavs too. Bosh actually doesn't average 25+ for the Heat. He averages less than 20. Kobe actually averaged over 25 last season. Gasol actually averaged more points than Bosh. I bet you weren't a Heat fan before last season , you make it seem as if the Heat are proud of losing.
@quakertown LeBron shouldn't avg 7 APG actually. He's a SF, and last time I checked that position revolves around scoring, ask KD. But he still manages to do that while being one of the most potent, powerful and consistent scorers in the NBA. As for Wade, regardless of how much more it was, he still did it, with LeBron on his team to take some of the shine away. As the Lakers only real scorer, he's should be leading the leauge in scoring, but he isnt because he can't. That why LA got swept.
@kiidscenic You are an idiot. Yes Lebron is a SF but you do not mention the actual role he played in Cleveland and what he partially plays in Miami- being the point forward. He handles the ball for the majority of the time. He has the ability to set other team mates up, because he has a slashing play style. This is the reason he averages more assists.
@kiidscenic As for what you say about the SF position being "revolved around scoring". That is the stupidest shit I have ever heard. No. It is not. The position revolves around whatever the team's offence requires from them. Using Durant is a poor example. He has amazing scoring ability as an individual and the Thunder realise and take advantage of this- not because he plays the 3 position. If the SF position "resolves around scoring" why does Artest average less than 10 a game.
@Bernankeful Ron Artest is a poor example on your part considering he's probably one of the worst players in the league. Besides no body scores when you have Kobe Ballhog Bryant as a teammate. Carmelo Anthony then? Maybe Danny Granger? Paul Pierce, Loul Deng, Dorell Wright, Rudy Gay, Michael Beasley? All scorers. Prove me wrong. None of those players averaged more than 4APG and ALL averaged over 15 PPG. So GTFO with that.
@kiidscenic So from what I understand, you are saying that players who garner over 15PPG and under 4APG (AND also play the SF) are effectively labelled as "scorers". Well in reality, although they are capable of putting up good numbers, many of the players you compiled in your list are not even the first option on their teams. From a little research, you can see that these players make up only 7 of the top 40 scorers from last season. A vast minority.
@kiidscenic As for what you say about Kobe being a "ball hog" and that "nobody scores with him as a team mate", have you ever heard of Pau Gasol? Plays power forward? One of the best scoring big men in the game. Averages 20PPG and 3.5APG. Oh, does that not meet your criteria of being a capable "scorer"?
@Bernankeful Alright, I won't front, Pau does score efficiently. But Chris Bosh averaged around 18PPG while D. Wade and LeBron both scored over 23PPG, which gave him less opportunities to score, but he still averages around the same as Pau, so Pau really isnt doing anything great scoring 20PPG being 1 of only 2 scorers on a team. Amare had Raymond Felton, Galanari, Billups and Melo on his team this year and still averaged over 23PPG. Pau is nothing special
@kiidscenic Look past the stat sheet. The heat, have limited scoring options behind the big 3. So James, Wade and Bosh must put up respectable numbers in absence of other scorers (Nobody else averages over 10PPG). Again, do not compare stats. Pau plays within a system, where scoring is more diluted within the roster. He doesn't need to put up 25PPG because they don't need it. Lastly, Amare did not have Melo nor Billups until the last third of the season. Until that point he had to put up 25-30
@Bernankeful They don't because Kobe scores all their points. The only other scorer on that team besides Kobe and Pau is Bynum, and he barely scored over 11PPG. And for Kobe to only average 25.5 PPG and be one of the only scoring options for that team is pathetic to say the least. LeBron scores 26.7 PPG with 2 other major score contributors.
@kiidscenic Stop making dumb ass claims without doing your research cunt. Pau puts up 20PPG, Bynum and Lamar put up over 10PPG each. Reread what I just fucking wrote dude, stop making the same dumb ass argument every time, because truth be told the Lakers have won 2 championships in the past 3 years with Kobe only averaging 25.5PPG "being one of the only scoring options for his team". Lebron, even with his stats, hasn't won shit all. So stfu, sit down, and suck a dick.
@Bernankeful Oooooo, you mad bro? If rings were actually what basketball was about, then we'd be calling Bill Russell the GOAT and not Jordan. There are many many many players with no rings who were amazing. Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, Dominique Wilkins, just to name a few. And you want me to stop making the argument because you know for a fact that at the end of the day, LeBron's stats prove that he is, indefinitely, superior to Kobe. I done, and you should just stop too, because you lose.
@quakertown And the Heat shouldn't be proud of losing but I'm pretty sure they're proud they made it past the 2nd round of the playoffs, and that they made it to the Finals, and never even had to think about getting swept in the post season. And also, I'm not a Heat fan. I'm a basketball fan, and I support many teams. I'm an analyst before I am a fan. You can continue to ride the Kobe bandwagon now.
First of all, I'm not a Laker fan. Am I a Kobe fan? Yes, since 1996 so it's not a bandwagon fan. Am I a fan of LeBron/Wade/Rose/Rondo/Durant? Yes, because it's exciting to see them play. Atleast a Kobe-Led team has never been swept in the Finals. I'm not hating on the Heat, I think LeBron deserved a ring just as much as Dirk. But I only give credit where credit is due and based on the finals, he deserves no credit. Losing in the 2nd round is the same thing as losing in the FInals.
if you read it , i said BASED ON THE FINALS. He's done it in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round in his days as a Cav before so it's not anything new for him to dominate. But he doesn't dominate when it matters the most and if you don't agree with that then you're blind.
@mhrce So you're the guy who plays by those rules? Cool. So you think Karl Malone is just as good as LeBron. You think Steve Nash is just as good as LeBron. You are using some seriously slippery slope logic. At the end of the day, all intelligent people know the ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS CHAMPIONSHIPS. Kobe has his MVP, his Finals MVPs, his 5 rings, his gold, and his peace of mind. LeBron has a gigantic question mark hovering over him . Does he have the grit to be a champion? Not yet.
@lanate11 so you must think robert horry is the best player in the history of the nba right? and that karl malone, john stockton, charles barkley, patrick ewing are all utter shit? i mean, horry has 7 rings and the others have none, so robert horry must be the best in the nba.
and yes, nash and karl malone are fucking magnificent players, malone is only 2nd all time in scoring and nash only lead the nba in assists for 3 years in a row. youre fucking awful.
@mhrce And you sound like a joy to be around. Intelligent too. Okay, lets put on our thinking caps (dust yours off), and use some common sense. Robert Horry was a wonderful role player, but not an all-time great. Everyone knows that. No one is claiming Kurt Rambis is better than LeBron for the same reason, despite Rambis having multiple rings. Kobe, on the other hand, is with LeBron in the "Great" category and has the self-procalaimed King utterly dominated where it counts: titles.
@lanate11 youre basically stating that championships are a more valuable sign than MVPs in terms of showing how good an individual player is. all im saying is thats fucking retarded, as you can see with horry having 7 championships and the likes of stockton, malone, and other greats having none. in this matter its easy to see that mvps are the most accurate measure of individual greatness, not championships of which it takes team play, not individual play.
@lanate11 furthermore you can stop using your wise idiomatic phrases to try to maintain some semblance to a smart person, because its easy to see by your reasoning skills that you are not. lebron as an individual is a much better all around player than kobe. he just never had a prime shaq or magnificent starting 5 in his career, and now in his 1st year with miami people are expecting him to win and will accept nothing less
@mhrce Look, I've been a Laker fan since I was old enough to say "purple and gold." So ultimately, I know what this is about. My life of basketball fanhood has been far more enjoyable than yours and so you are bitterly jealous. We've got banners and you have excuses, unmet expectations, and failure. Take the individual talent if you like, but history remembers championship teams. We've got rings, you've got pretend kings. I'll take my side of the debate any day. Good night.
@lanate11 now youre talking about the success of a team as opposed to individual players. obviously now that youve stated youre a lakers fan i can see that you have bias when it comes to talking about the best individual player. i myself am a wizards fan so i dont see how i could possibly have any bias when deciding who the best player is.
if you like the lakers, good for you, that doesn't mean kobe bryant is better than lebron james.
@mhrce I actually never said "Kobe is the better individual player." I immediately went to the five rings, which is ultimately what the great players are measured by. If LeBron wins 2-3 rings, that will change history's perception of him immensely. Until then, we can't help but remember his teams' sudden, shocking, annual disappearing acts.
@lanate11 in response to the comment that lebron>kobe, you immediately said "im pretty sure 5>0," which makes it pretty easy to you that you meant kobe>lebron. yes, rings are something to measure a player by, but other awards offer a far better measurement of individual greatness.
and since it seems that youre so focused on lebrons playoff disappointments, let me point out some of his great performances. 2011 vs boston and chicago? 2010 vs celtics 27ppg, 9rpg, 7apg, 2007 vs pistons? etc?
1. kobe 2.durant 3.melo.......all these kids nowaday like lebron cus hes flashy and outspoken...but the thing is lebron doesnt play to win he plays to be a celebrity...bottom line is lebrons a bitch made nigga
@MrMikelew2929 i want lebron to get a ring but its hard. also rings dont show how good of a player is lebron is better than kobe right now end of story. if u disagree thats u but there are players without rings who is better than some of the greats . steve nash doesnt have a ring does that mean derek fisher is better no it just says he ahd a better team. i love the knicks but ppl bashing on him for no reason is sad.
@kingdanny4754 another brainwashed basketball fan. man i feel bad for you., how could u sit here and say the so called king is better than lebron. are you stupid?
@bigben1986 plz tell me how im brainwash. im spitting facts. did kobe ever take his team to the finals by himself no period. yes i know kobe got 5 rings and how does compare to how great he is. rings dont mean shit to me tony parker and other nba players have rings does that mean they are better than lebron no. now lets get back to how lebron is a better player. kobe got the jumper and exp on lebron thats it. lebron does everything better passing,rebound,driving,hes stronger and taller,
@kingdanny4754 Lebron's a good player. But when you're a GREAT player, destiny takes you to championship status. Lebron isn't there yet. He's still in the process of earning it.
@binka21 yea he isnt there yet nj did not win his first ring till he was 28 lebron is 26 dont worry he will get his. but when he does people is gonna still hate.
@kingdanny4754 it's just his attitude. he acts like nothing can get to him. sometimes you gotta listen to other people's criticism and be humble. When people see that, then they know your a good person and support you. Can you see the difference how Wade is alot more humble than Lebron?
@binka21 i understand,but the media whats him to be this awesome guy, that is just perfect not gonna happen. also the reason why nba is third in major sports is because we ear all the time who is better kobe or lebron, derrick rose or deron williams nobody cares whos better i wanna know who is winning first, second how is there defense, third how valuable hes to his team. thats why nfl will be at number 1 and mlb at number 2. because these leagues respect their previous players. and dont compare
Here's the difference you retarded shit. MJ enterred the league at 21? However, Lebron enterred at 18. Mj got his ring on his 8th season. Lebron is enterring his 9th and has 0. So dont ever compare Lebron winning a ring to MJ. How many times do we have to prove to you fucking retarded idiots that Lebron is not or will never be close to MJ. So don't compare MJ's age of winning a ring to Lebitch.
I hate this question. Kobe may be a better player but yet they are very different players. You can compare Kobe and Michael, but you cant compare LeBron to either one of those guys.
inFAMOUSCuDi 2 days ago
MJ23>24KB
sinishtaj21 1 week ago
even the greatest says kobe is better than lebron prove taken
wingersx 1 week ago
Well,Not surprising....he just said that 5 years ago,,and did`nt changed his Opinion,o0ow its A fact ^^
"GOD HAS SPOKEN"
Yihan1234 2 weeks ago
thank you!!!!!!
DsoHansome101 2 weeks ago
Two words: Brian Scalabrine
joaopescusa 4 weeks ago 4
@joaopescusa Oh my god. :D
leobsession123456789 3 weeks ago
kobe has wide variety of basketball shot n moves n lebron is just a very strong like locomotive basketball athlete
socrates660 1 month ago 3
even D Wade is a better player than Lebron...
AriaeVision 1 month ago
@AriaeVision totally agree!
socrates660 1 month ago
@AriaeVision LOL.... No.
MissionScratch59 2 weeks ago
M.J. > Kobe > Lebron... Let's be honest to ourselves for once.
kiLLjoy24CALI 1 month ago 2
@kiLLjoy24CALI dont place lebron behind kobe hes not even an all time great like kobe or jordan lebron shouldnt even be mentoned as one of the greatest players of all time not hating just the truth i dont see whats so special about this guy nothing
TheDwill26 5 days ago
Lebron averaged like 2 pts for four straight 4th quarters against Dallas. Not hating... Just a fact. LOL
kiLLjoy24CALI 1 month ago
Sub Me
16guillem16 1 month ago
THE REAL KING HAS SPOKEN
Touchdown456 1 month ago
Michael chose kobe in the first vid and in this KOBE is da best xD
migidx 1 month ago
jordan is right kobe
KickFilms11 1 month ago
@DROWNINGTADPOL3 YOUNG KOBE WOULD DESTROY ANYONE ON NBA EXCEPT FOR MJ OF COURSE...................
PTCRiPzZ112 1 month ago
@PTCRiPzZ112 fuck no kid prime kobe would most likely tear up jordan dude prime kobe was unstoppable im saying the truth he wont even miss a shot when hes a hot prime kobe to me is like the best prime player ever
TheDwill26 5 days ago
@TheDwill26 can u tell me what i wrote on this i forgot haha
PTCRiPzZ112 4 days ago
Notice how Jordan says "But LeBron has bigger upcoming, he could very well be better than .... a lot of players" It sounded like he was going to say Kobe and then just thought nahhh. Also saying "very well be better than a lot of players" seems to mean Jordan thinks there are several players better than LeBron other than just Kobe at this moment. I'd trust the Greatest of all time on something like this. Notice he didn't say LeBron isn't good, he just thinks there are better.
WangerBrah 2 months ago 3
what did he say
xboxseagren14 2 months ago 10
Derek Fisher is better than Kobe or Lebron..
crinclespandecoco 2 months ago
@crinclespandecoco haha
FANJG24 2 months ago
every time kobe !
dertli07 2 months ago
@kiidscenic idc how they scored they dont have kobes footwork shooting ability ball handling skills and or iq do ur hw and actually watch kobe play
matmladin1 3 months ago
Kobe: Averaged "35" in one season. 5 rings. 81 point game. OUTSCORED a TEAM by the third quarter. Too many game winners to count.
wat.
EpicMangina 3 months ago
who cares what Jordan thinks? MJ is the best PLAYER of all time, but his eye for talent is absolutely terrible....as GM of the Wizards in 2001, he selected Kwame Brown with the #1 pick.......Kwame Brown is a terrible player, but Jordan thought he was awesome, thats why he chose him. I repeat, Jordan is the best player of all time, but he cant tell a good player from a bad player......no wonder he picked Kobe, he has no idea what talent is
hounddog83 4 months ago
@hounddog83 who cares what jordan thinks? who give's a flying fuck what you think lol. I'd believe jordan over your ass ANY fucking day of the week.
mikeiscrazymo 3 months ago
@hounddog83 yeah your right....Kwame Brown was the best #1 draft pick in the history of the game...what was I thinking? LOL
Go suck ya moms big fat cock ya piece of shit
hounddog83 3 months ago
@hounddog83 In fairness, a lot of people thought Kwame Brown was going to be better. Because Garnett and Kobe were doing well, for a few years after jordan retired, every guy coming fresh out of high school was really hyped up. Remember Darius Miles? Kwame Brown and Tyson Chandler both received the same kind of hype. Kwame Brown definitely turned out to be the biggest flop, but Jordan wasn't alone in thinking he'd be better
pheeel17 3 months ago
wtf!! wade is better than kobe with 1 ring!!
argentina251 4 months ago
adam morrison LOL
SMALL3ification 4 months ago
lebron disliked this hahah
ZGJDJD 4 months ago
and then there was dwyane wade. LOL
UltimateCenaFan521 4 months ago
@UltimateCenaFan521 Lol you are a retard. Wade is not in the choices and not even close to get IN the choices. You are dumb enough to compare Wade to Kobe?
Zabarteismyname 4 months ago
@Zabarteismyname xD dude calm down i was just saying. I like Dwyane Wade im not saying hes good enough to be compared to Kobe (even though he kinda is) i'm just saying that he could be in this conversation.
UltimateCenaFan521 3 months ago
@Zabarteismyname wade would fucken school kobe
DROWNlNGTADPOL3 3 months ago 2
@DROWNlNGTADPOL3 not kobe with afro
watupdawgdawg 3 months ago
@DROWNlNGTADPOL3 Kobe would fucken drop 40 on wade everytime plus buzzer beaters. Fundamentals bro.
Zabarteismyname 3 months ago
@Zabarteismyname PLEASE WADE WOULD RUN RINGS AROUND OLD MAN KOBE
DROWNlNGTADPOL3 3 months ago
@DROWNlNGTADPOL3 Rings. Dont talk about rings bro. Really. With Bosh and Lebron. Still can't win?
Zabarteismyname 3 months ago
@Zabarteismyname lol only an idiot would think the heat would win the championship in the first year of the big three basketball is about about combinations whih develop over years anyone who knows sport understands that and dont use kobes rings to say he is better because that argument is useless, im not saying wade is better than kobe overall, just right now in their careers wade is playing better
DROWNlNGTADPOL3 2 months ago
@DROWNlNGTADPOL3 then you heat fans are the idiots. Heat fans told everyone that the heat would win 6 straight and win a championship last season. Wade playing better? That's just a joke. Have you seen kobe play? Or even if Wade is playing better. He could never school kobe. Its like saying young Kobe schooled MJ.
Zabarteismyname 2 months ago
@Zabarteismyname im not a heat fan im just a wade fan and yer kobe playing better thats why they got swept buddy.
DROWNlNGTADPOL3 2 months ago
@DROWNlNGTADPOL3 My lakers were swept by the Mavs. Kobe played great but the Mavs were just playing better and yer Wade playing better thats why they lose even though they have Lebron and Bosh. One thing in common? They got beat by the same team. It take a team to win not only one player. Dont expect miami to win a championship after one season? They went to the Finals doesnt that mean they have Chemistry? And in fact Boston's big three won with their first season. Dont make excuses. Okay buddy?
Zabarteismyname 2 months ago
@Zabarteismyname played great??? lol kobe put up 17 points in each of the last 2-3 games of the series against dallas. he played terrible like the rest of the team. he could have at least played well himself. then maybe id give props
dcdrumsinc 2 months ago
@dcdrumsinc Let's see. Who scored double digits in those 4 games? kobe scored 36 game 1. His teammates barely scored double digits. Have you watched the series. It fucking hard to scored 17 on dallas when you see their defense and at least Kobe didnt score 6 points for his team.
Zabarteismyname 2 months ago
@dcdrumsinc Kobe doesnt win series or rings...his team does. We all know this since his days with Shaq and the finals where Artest and Fisher had to bail him out again. The Finals before that Gasol was the real mvp.
yogd4life 1 month ago
@yogd4life REALLY!!?? Take Kobe out of the line-up and see what happens... Don't worry, I'll wait. Do you think the Lakers could've won all those championship without Kobe? If you do, you're lying to yourself. And why would they give the finals MVP to Gasol? Kobe averaged 28 PPG. FYI Kobe avg 21, 29, 26 PPG during the Shaq and Kobe era playoffs. Tell me that didn't help them win championship. LMAO
kiLLjoy24CALI 1 month ago
@yogd4life u stupid dumb fuck lakers needed kobe to win the championships fuck u talking about every star player has a supporting cast on their team u stupid know nothing about basketball stop watching sports go back to hating on kobe
TheDwill26 5 days ago
@DROWNlNGTADPOL3 and Kobe would school Wade.
whoaitstu 2 months ago
0:23 adam morrison lol
burroolmos 4 months ago 35
@burroolmos 0:23 Amar'e Stoudemire.
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burroolmos 4 months ago
How dare they boo jordan, lol
Cytron36 4 months ago
Alan morrisonn!!! LOL
beto3224 4 months ago
instead of comparing kobe to lebron. it makes more sense to compare d wade with kobe after they both have rings and wades the superstar while lebrons the role player and benchwarmer in 4th quarters
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seros2010 4 months ago
Even Mj saw that lebron traveled
nibblebunny 5 months ago
How dare those shits boo the god of basketball?!?!
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I don't know why people keep bringing this up. Kobe has an all round game and has proven he can win. When the Lakers loose, he plays harder and gets motivated during the off-season. Lebron can't play D, only help side D, he can't make the tough shots in close games (where was he in the fourth quarters during the finals or in the Eastern Championships the years before?), blames others for a loss, plus he proved he couldn't win without being D-wade's bitch in South Beach. Period.
cito423 5 months ago
I don't know why people keep bringing this up. Kobe has an all round game and has proven he can win. When the Lakers loose, he plays harder and gets motivated during the off-season. Lebron can't play D, only help side D, he can't make the tough shots in close games (where was he in the fourth quarters during the finals or in the Eastern Championships the years before?), blames others for a loss, plus he proved he couldn't win without being D-wade's bitch in South Beach. Period.
cito423 5 months ago
@cito423 Lebron cant play d? hahah he locked down DROSE, the fastest player in the NBA and the MVP in the ECF....Cant make clutch shots? Did you watch him against the Celtics and the Heat in the playoffs this season. I know you werent watching Kobe because his ass was watching Lebron own while his ass was back in LA because he got SWEPT...And Lebron's overall game is WAY better than Kobe's you dipshit
MyCockIsNotForYou 4 months ago
@cito423 meant to say Bulls instead of Heat
MyCockIsNotForYou 4 months ago
The GOAT says Kobe is better... This debate should've been over long ass time ago, matter of fact this should never have started, Kobe is second to MJ and no one can take that away from him...What would lebron say if he was asked would you rather have 2 finals mvps or 2 mvps...? ask yourself that question before bandwagons start bringing that bullshit up..
LiLSiCk916 5 months ago
@LiLSiCk916 The guy under me just spoke some real ass shit PERIOD.
12341234cd 5 months ago
@LiLSiCk916 Kobe is second to MJ? I guess Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russel, Kareem Abdul-Jabar, Magic Johnson, Jerry West, Isaiah Thomas, Shaq, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen, Julius Irving, Larry Bird, Moses Malone, Penny Hardaway, James Worthy, Karl Malone, Reggie Miller, Kenny Smith, John Stockton, Hakeem Olajuwon, Dominique Wilkins, Clyde Drexler, Robert Parish, Robert McAdoo, Kevin McHale, Bill Walton and Walter Frazier never existed. Kobe is second to this dick.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@kiidscenic LMFAO Wilt? the most overrated player of all time, played in an era where there was only 2 black people allowed per team sorry buddy but black people made the sport what it is today, lmfao go look up a game of wilt chamberlins and look at the size and height difference between him and everyone else on the court he's like 2 feet taller than everyone lmfao GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE with dat overrated trash !! NEXT!! Bill Russell Same thing i just said about wilt..
LiLSiCk916 4 months ago
@kiidscenic NEXT! Magic Johnson and Jerry West?? LMFAO Kobe is the all time leading scorer in points for lakers history! Jerry west and magic themselves claimed kobe as the best laker EVER, so WHY THE FUCK WOULD I LISTEN TO A STUPID FUCK LIKE YOU WHO KNOWS SHIT ABOUT BASKETBALL!?! When the players themselves are agreeing with what im saying LMFAO NEEEXT! Patrick Ewing ? How Many championships did he win? How many MVP's did he win? Does he have more overall career points than Kobe? NOPE! NEXT!!!
LiLSiCk916 4 months ago
@kiidscenic CHARLES BARKLEY!?!? LMFAO That fat fuck himself said Kobe is top 5 greatest player of all time ahead of himself...smh your arguements are weak as FUCK! LMFAO NEXT! PIPPEN!?!?!?!? THE AL MIGHTY SIDEKICK!?!? LMFAO DUDE IM NOT EVEN GONNA COMMENT ON THAT ONE YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THAT ONE YOURSELF LMFAO!! OH MAN!! NEXT!! Larry BIRD?!? GTFO! Bird is an overrated nba product of white basketball players who played in an era where there was maybe ONE good small forward in the league and
LiLSiCk916 4 months ago
@kiidscenic when ever he played DR J he always got that ass smacked, Zone defense was not an option in birds era, therefore making him unstoppable unless he played against some one good and wtf 3 rings to 5 rings..? NEXT!! SMH! BILL WALTON!?!? WOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA OMFG! YOU JUST LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!!! BILL WALTON!? Dude he couldnt even healthy for one whole season? Your telling in a game 7 finals game u would pick bill walton over kobe?!?!? STFU!!NEXT!!
LiLSiCk916 4 months ago
@LiLSiCk916 He couldn't even healthy? Your telling in a game 7? Are you mentally challenged my good sir? Learn how to write in proper English before you get on the internet.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@kiidscenic LOL okay you still have no point in your argument..smh you did get wrecked buddy, LOL and all of a sudden just cuz i forgot to type one word down i cant speak proper, shut the fuck up you obviously know what im trying to say you act like nobodies ever made a typo you stupid bitch.. You keep bringing up magic johnson, "Kobe is the greatest laker of all time" - Magic ..Nuff said.. Shaq?
Shaq= 1 ring without kobe
Kobe= 2 rings without shaq
NUFF SAID.. GAME OVER BITCH!..NEXT!!
LiLSiCk916 4 months ago
@kiidscenic Oh yeah and lets not forgot who is #2 on that all time playoff scoring list right under MJ...Do i have to say his name or is not already obvious(Kobe) ..I cant believe you said rings don't matter in basketball.. If rings didn't matter LeBron would still be a cavalier, MJ wouldnt have been the GOAT, Think about it if he didn't have the 6 rings and 6 finals mvp under his belt, who would he be? Just another great player not the GOAT, your knowledge of basketball is fucking hilarious bro
LiLSiCk916 4 months ago
@LiLSiCk916 I said if rings were what it was all about, not that they didn't matter. Learn how to read. And it's speak properly, not speak proper. You still fail at that. MJ is the GOAT because of his achievements, but also because he changed the game of basketball. Even if he hadn't won his rings, his style of play would have been remembered and he still would've went down has one of the greatest players ever. And like I said, if rings were what it was all about,Bill Russell would be GOAT. 11>6
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@LiLSiCk916 And alright, just because he has 2nd most points in the playoffs he's the 2nd best ever? I think not. I think all time leading scorer would come before that. I think most championships ever would also come before that. Kobe is not the 2nd best player ever, and anyone with even a shred of knowledge about basketball would agree. Now stop talking you baby ass nigga.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@kiidscenic Oh and the starting lineup when Russell played consisted of 4 black guys and 1 white guy, so that bull about two black guys per team is false.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@kiidscenic man im done i just wrecked ur ass kid, your just blurtin out names outta ur ass.. stop fucking hating bitch, and lol why you frontin for nigga you got a hole between your legs chump..
LiLSiCk916 4 months ago
@LiLSiCk916 Lol you call that wrecking when you didn't even address how Kobe is better than any of those people? Half of every comment was you cursing. Wilt won 2 Championships, 4 MVP's and led the league in scoring 7 times. And there were people near his size, he wasn't a freak of nature. Magic Johnson, one of the best passers of all time, who also scored with ease, is a man with something called modesty. He's not going to go out and say he's better because he doesn't have to. Same with West.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@LiLSiCk916 Shaq, the reason, why Kobe has 3 of his rings. Enough said. Chuck, was one of the only players in Jordans time that could keep up with Jordan. Scottie Pippen, one of the greatest SF of all time, and your calling him a sidekick. Jordan would have never said he was a sidekick, because basketball is a team sport, but you know nothing about that. Larry Bird, I shouldn't even have to say. One of the best shooters to ever play the game. James Worthy, one of THE best Lakers ever.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@kiidscenic Idiot. Do you really believe Shaq would have won his 3 rings without Kobe. The same argument could easily be made for Jordan, not winning his 6 rings without Pippen. But of course, now you refer to basketball as a team sport, even though you gloat how "pathetic" or impressive it is for Kobe and Lebron to be scoring the most points for their respective teams. You contradict yourself.
Bernankeful 4 months ago
@Bernankeful Dude are you seriously getting in to this one too? I said it was impressive that LeBron could score and dish out assists with the players he plays with, and how unimpressive it is for Kobe to not get the same numbers, with players way lesser than the players LeBron plays with. Proves how much you actually read.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@Bernankeful Now do me a favor and kindly hop off my sack. I have no more time for this. Thank you.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
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kiidscenic 4 months ago
@LiLSiCk916 Reggie Miller, 2nd all time most 3's, enough said. John Stockton, best passer ever. Kareem Abdul-Jabar, probably the best Laker ever, all time leading scorer. Dominique and Drexler, MJ's biggest competition when they played. Walter Frazier, one of the most amazing scorers in NBA history. Your arguments prove not only that you know nothing about basketball or it's history, because all you do is write CAPS, but that you are just a Kobe dick riding faggot. Now I'M done, and so are you.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
If you watch closely...Lebron travels in the background
JSteigz 5 months ago
y r yall acting like kobe just started playing ball last season? they got swept this. kobe old that. he is going into his 16th season and is still among the top players. did yall just start watching last season, becuz if u did u would realize that the lakes were back to back defending champs and kobe got his 5th ring. lebron can pad the stats all he wants, but until he starts playin like kobe, he wont win shit. which is the point of the sport i thought.
slimdogg3325 5 months ago 11
Jordan says that Kobe is better than Lebron. And Pippen says that Lebron is better than Jordan... It's simple deductive reasoning.
31MillerTime31 5 months ago
Kobe or Lebron? MJ once said he chose D wade!
zhuowenzone 5 months ago
yup very well rounded player kobe all day
MOSHxLIFE 5 months ago
kobe has 5 rings but only 3 finals MVPs? sounds suspect to me .
Jordan recognizes talent when he sees it .
LBJ - Kobe
LostnMelrose 5 months ago
@LostnMelrose lol, are you kidding me?
salarmander27 5 months ago
@kidfresh159 r u serious d wade not even close and lebron does not have the offensive SKILLS that kobe has neither of them do
matmladin1 5 months ago
@matmladin1 Are you kidding bro? Who was 2nd in scoring last season? LeBron. Not sure where D.Wade was at but I know for a fact he was over Kobe. Who was the only non PG player to average 7 apg last season? LeBron. Who didnt get swept in the 2nd round of the playoffs. D.Wade and LeBron's Heat. Which team lasted longer than any team did in the post season against the Mavs? D. Wade and LeBron's Heat. There are 3 scorers on the Heat and they both average 25+. Kobe's the only scorer on LA and he cnt
kiidscenic 5 months ago
@kiidscenic
Wade was only .2 higher in PPG than Kobe last season. LeBron should average 7 assists, he's the basically the PG for the Heat and he's passing to Bosh and Wade. Actually the Blazers lasted 6 games against the Mavs too. Bosh actually doesn't average 25+ for the Heat. He averages less than 20. Kobe actually averaged over 25 last season. Gasol actually averaged more points than Bosh. I bet you weren't a Heat fan before last season , you make it seem as if the Heat are proud of losing.
quakertown 5 months ago
@quakertown LeBron shouldn't avg 7 APG actually. He's a SF, and last time I checked that position revolves around scoring, ask KD. But he still manages to do that while being one of the most potent, powerful and consistent scorers in the NBA. As for Wade, regardless of how much more it was, he still did it, with LeBron on his team to take some of the shine away. As the Lakers only real scorer, he's should be leading the leauge in scoring, but he isnt because he can't. That why LA got swept.
kiidscenic 5 months ago
@kiidscenic You are an idiot. Yes Lebron is a SF but you do not mention the actual role he played in Cleveland and what he partially plays in Miami- being the point forward. He handles the ball for the majority of the time. He has the ability to set other team mates up, because he has a slashing play style. This is the reason he averages more assists.
Bernankeful 4 months ago
@kiidscenic As for what you say about the SF position being "revolved around scoring". That is the stupidest shit I have ever heard. No. It is not. The position revolves around whatever the team's offence requires from them. Using Durant is a poor example. He has amazing scoring ability as an individual and the Thunder realise and take advantage of this- not because he plays the 3 position. If the SF position "resolves around scoring" why does Artest average less than 10 a game.
Bernankeful 4 months ago
@Bernankeful Ron Artest is a poor example on your part considering he's probably one of the worst players in the league. Besides no body scores when you have Kobe Ballhog Bryant as a teammate. Carmelo Anthony then? Maybe Danny Granger? Paul Pierce, Loul Deng, Dorell Wright, Rudy Gay, Michael Beasley? All scorers. Prove me wrong. None of those players averaged more than 4APG and ALL averaged over 15 PPG. So GTFO with that.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@kiidscenic So from what I understand, you are saying that players who garner over 15PPG and under 4APG (AND also play the SF) are effectively labelled as "scorers". Well in reality, although they are capable of putting up good numbers, many of the players you compiled in your list are not even the first option on their teams. From a little research, you can see that these players make up only 7 of the top 40 scorers from last season. A vast minority.
Bernankeful 4 months ago
@kiidscenic As for what you say about Kobe being a "ball hog" and that "nobody scores with him as a team mate", have you ever heard of Pau Gasol? Plays power forward? One of the best scoring big men in the game. Averages 20PPG and 3.5APG. Oh, does that not meet your criteria of being a capable "scorer"?
Bernankeful 4 months ago
@Bernankeful Alright, I won't front, Pau does score efficiently. But Chris Bosh averaged around 18PPG while D. Wade and LeBron both scored over 23PPG, which gave him less opportunities to score, but he still averages around the same as Pau, so Pau really isnt doing anything great scoring 20PPG being 1 of only 2 scorers on a team. Amare had Raymond Felton, Galanari, Billups and Melo on his team this year and still averaged over 23PPG. Pau is nothing special
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@kiidscenic Look past the stat sheet. The heat, have limited scoring options behind the big 3. So James, Wade and Bosh must put up respectable numbers in absence of other scorers (Nobody else averages over 10PPG). Again, do not compare stats. Pau plays within a system, where scoring is more diluted within the roster. He doesn't need to put up 25PPG because they don't need it. Lastly, Amare did not have Melo nor Billups until the last third of the season. Until that point he had to put up 25-30
Bernankeful 4 months ago
@Bernankeful They don't because Kobe scores all their points. The only other scorer on that team besides Kobe and Pau is Bynum, and he barely scored over 11PPG. And for Kobe to only average 25.5 PPG and be one of the only scoring options for that team is pathetic to say the least. LeBron scores 26.7 PPG with 2 other major score contributors.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@kiidscenic Stop making dumb ass claims without doing your research cunt. Pau puts up 20PPG, Bynum and Lamar put up over 10PPG each. Reread what I just fucking wrote dude, stop making the same dumb ass argument every time, because truth be told the Lakers have won 2 championships in the past 3 years with Kobe only averaging 25.5PPG "being one of the only scoring options for his team". Lebron, even with his stats, hasn't won shit all. So stfu, sit down, and suck a dick.
Bernankeful 4 months ago
@Bernankeful Oooooo, you mad bro? If rings were actually what basketball was about, then we'd be calling Bill Russell the GOAT and not Jordan. There are many many many players with no rings who were amazing. Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, Dominique Wilkins, just to name a few. And you want me to stop making the argument because you know for a fact that at the end of the day, LeBron's stats prove that he is, indefinitely, superior to Kobe. I done, and you should just stop too, because you lose.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@Bernankeful Amare did it while Carmelo averaged 25.4 and Billups averaged 16.8. Just stop.
kiidscenic 4 months ago
@quakertown And the Heat shouldn't be proud of losing but I'm pretty sure they're proud they made it past the 2nd round of the playoffs, and that they made it to the Finals, and never even had to think about getting swept in the post season. And also, I'm not a Heat fan. I'm a basketball fan, and I support many teams. I'm an analyst before I am a fan. You can continue to ride the Kobe bandwagon now.
kiidscenic 5 months ago
@kiidscenic
First of all, I'm not a Laker fan. Am I a Kobe fan? Yes, since 1996 so it's not a bandwagon fan. Am I a fan of LeBron/Wade/Rose/Rondo/Durant? Yes, because it's exciting to see them play. Atleast a Kobe-Led team has never been swept in the Finals. I'm not hating on the Heat, I think LeBron deserved a ring just as much as Dirk. But I only give credit where credit is due and based on the finals, he deserves no credit. Losing in the 2nd round is the same thing as losing in the FInals.
quakertown 5 months ago
@quakertown Lebron deserves no credit? I'm done.
kiidscenic 5 months ago
@kiidscenic
if you read it , i said BASED ON THE FINALS. He's done it in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round in his days as a Cav before so it's not anything new for him to dominate. But he doesn't dominate when it matters the most and if you don't agree with that then you're blind.
quakertown 5 months ago
hahah someone said adam morrison lmao
alan48085 5 months ago
Kobe. And that's all she wrote
M6teenbam323 5 months ago
guyz its not kobe and not lebron....
its adam morrison...
i rest my case
AdjustTo 6 months ago
Kobe has been the best ever since Jordan left the league Nuff said
ULamez00 6 months ago 2
You have to agree with the all time greatest
komarbat23 6 months ago
Lebron>Kobe
2333mack 6 months ago
@2333mack last I checked 5>0
lanate11 6 months ago 13
@lanate11 last i checked 2>1
mvps if you couldnt figure out.
mhrce 4 months ago
@mhrce So you're the guy who plays by those rules? Cool. So you think Karl Malone is just as good as LeBron. You think Steve Nash is just as good as LeBron. You are using some seriously slippery slope logic. At the end of the day, all intelligent people know the ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS CHAMPIONSHIPS. Kobe has his MVP, his Finals MVPs, his 5 rings, his gold, and his peace of mind. LeBron has a gigantic question mark hovering over him . Does he have the grit to be a champion? Not yet.
lanate11 4 months ago
@lanate11 so you must think robert horry is the best player in the history of the nba right? and that karl malone, john stockton, charles barkley, patrick ewing are all utter shit? i mean, horry has 7 rings and the others have none, so robert horry must be the best in the nba.
and yes, nash and karl malone are fucking magnificent players, malone is only 2nd all time in scoring and nash only lead the nba in assists for 3 years in a row. youre fucking awful.
mhrce 4 months ago
@mhrce And you sound like a joy to be around. Intelligent too. Okay, lets put on our thinking caps (dust yours off), and use some common sense. Robert Horry was a wonderful role player, but not an all-time great. Everyone knows that. No one is claiming Kurt Rambis is better than LeBron for the same reason, despite Rambis having multiple rings. Kobe, on the other hand, is with LeBron in the "Great" category and has the self-procalaimed King utterly dominated where it counts: titles.
lanate11 4 months ago
@lanate11 youre basically stating that championships are a more valuable sign than MVPs in terms of showing how good an individual player is. all im saying is thats fucking retarded, as you can see with horry having 7 championships and the likes of stockton, malone, and other greats having none. in this matter its easy to see that mvps are the most accurate measure of individual greatness, not championships of which it takes team play, not individual play.
mhrce 4 months ago
@lanate11 furthermore you can stop using your wise idiomatic phrases to try to maintain some semblance to a smart person, because its easy to see by your reasoning skills that you are not. lebron as an individual is a much better all around player than kobe. he just never had a prime shaq or magnificent starting 5 in his career, and now in his 1st year with miami people are expecting him to win and will accept nothing less
mhrce 4 months ago
@mhrce Look, I've been a Laker fan since I was old enough to say "purple and gold." So ultimately, I know what this is about. My life of basketball fanhood has been far more enjoyable than yours and so you are bitterly jealous. We've got banners and you have excuses, unmet expectations, and failure. Take the individual talent if you like, but history remembers championship teams. We've got rings, you've got pretend kings. I'll take my side of the debate any day. Good night.
lanate11 4 months ago
@lanate11 now youre talking about the success of a team as opposed to individual players. obviously now that youve stated youre a lakers fan i can see that you have bias when it comes to talking about the best individual player. i myself am a wizards fan so i dont see how i could possibly have any bias when deciding who the best player is.
if you like the lakers, good for you, that doesn't mean kobe bryant is better than lebron james.
mhrce 4 months ago
@mhrce I actually never said "Kobe is the better individual player." I immediately went to the five rings, which is ultimately what the great players are measured by. If LeBron wins 2-3 rings, that will change history's perception of him immensely. Until then, we can't help but remember his teams' sudden, shocking, annual disappearing acts.
lanate11 4 months ago
@lanate11 in response to the comment that lebron>kobe, you immediately said "im pretty sure 5>0," which makes it pretty easy to you that you meant kobe>lebron. yes, rings are something to measure a player by, but other awards offer a far better measurement of individual greatness.
and since it seems that youre so focused on lebrons playoff disappointments, let me point out some of his great performances. 2011 vs boston and chicago? 2010 vs celtics 27ppg, 9rpg, 7apg, 2007 vs pistons? etc?
mhrce 4 months ago
@2333mack 5 RINGS>5 STEPS
TheNegrodamus89 6 months ago
Lebron traveled bro
dre19872005 6 months ago
Funnily Nobody gets Iverson on the comparison :D They know AI will win for sure :D
KdDevil14 6 months ago
Only the GOAT can say who is the Best player is right now
skillz7854 6 months ago
someone said ADAM MORRISON!
12ashketchum 6 months ago 2
he said kobe
madbulldogkobe 6 months ago
swag is so fuckin gay
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Beaujeunehommex3 6 months ago
1.Kobe 2.durrant
aktionpacc 6 months ago
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dllax020 6 months ago
@aktionpacc
1. kobe 2.durant 3.melo.......all these kids nowaday like lebron cus hes flashy and outspoken...but the thing is lebron doesnt play to win he plays to be a celebrity...bottom line is lebrons a bitch made nigga
dllax020 6 months ago
@dllax020 Kobe? Durant? MELO? Please tell me you're not serious.
1. Wade
2. LeBron
3. Kobe
1105. Durant
123486945648. Melo.
DoesNotExist305 6 months ago
@DoesNotExist305
1. LeBron
2.Wade
3.Kobe
4.Melo
5.Durrant
6.Rose
kidfresh159 6 months ago
@kidfresh159 what is wrong with u...
rose is kobe is second to rose right now...
Luiseota 6 months ago
@kidfresh159 I can agree with you on that one.
DoesNotExist305 6 months ago
@kidfresh159 Melo is overrated and is a one way player
cakesandpi 6 months ago
0:23
"Adam Morrison"
lol
G0DF4TH33R 6 months ago
@kingdanny4754 lebron my ass !!
abel7scum 6 months ago
KOBE
Hundo124 6 months ago
who the hell is lebron?
bukidnontae 6 months ago
Lebrony lovers jus gonna keep wishin every year, predicting a ring for the traveling king. Cant win a ring on hope dummies.
MrMikelew2929 6 months ago
@MrMikelew2929 i want lebron to get a ring but its hard. also rings dont show how good of a player is lebron is better than kobe right now end of story. if u disagree thats u but there are players without rings who is better than some of the greats . steve nash doesnt have a ring does that mean derek fisher is better no it just says he ahd a better team. i love the knicks but ppl bashing on him for no reason is sad.
kingdanny4754 6 months ago
@kingdanny4754 another brainwashed basketball fan. man i feel bad for you., how could u sit here and say the so called king is better than lebron. are you stupid?
bigben1986 6 months ago
@bigben1986 plz tell me how im brainwash. im spitting facts. did kobe ever take his team to the finals by himself no period. yes i know kobe got 5 rings and how does compare to how great he is. rings dont mean shit to me tony parker and other nba players have rings does that mean they are better than lebron no. now lets get back to how lebron is a better player. kobe got the jumper and exp on lebron thats it. lebron does everything better passing,rebound,driving,hes stronger and taller,
kingdanny4754 6 months ago
@kingdanny4754 Lebron's a good player. But when you're a GREAT player, destiny takes you to championship status. Lebron isn't there yet. He's still in the process of earning it.
binka21 6 months ago
@binka21 yea he isnt there yet nj did not win his first ring till he was 28 lebron is 26 dont worry he will get his. but when he does people is gonna still hate.
kingdanny4754 6 months ago
@kingdanny4754 it's just his attitude. he acts like nothing can get to him. sometimes you gotta listen to other people's criticism and be humble. When people see that, then they know your a good person and support you. Can you see the difference how Wade is alot more humble than Lebron?
binka21 6 months ago
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kingdanny4754 6 months ago
@binka21 i understand,but the media whats him to be this awesome guy, that is just perfect not gonna happen. also the reason why nba is third in major sports is because we ear all the time who is better kobe or lebron, derrick rose or deron williams nobody cares whos better i wanna know who is winning first, second how is there defense, third how valuable hes to his team. thats why nfl will be at number 1 and mlb at number 2. because these leagues respect their previous players. and dont compare
kingdanny4754 6 months ago
@kingdanny4754 he couldn't win one with bosh and wade, unless kobe joins the heat, he will not win one
The24imran 6 months ago
@kingdanny4754
Here's the difference you retarded shit. MJ enterred the league at 21? However, Lebron enterred at 18. Mj got his ring on his 8th season. Lebron is enterring his 9th and has 0. So dont ever compare Lebron winning a ring to MJ. How many times do we have to prove to you fucking retarded idiots that Lebron is not or will never be close to MJ. So don't compare MJ's age of winning a ring to Lebitch.
lmaostrnoob 6 months ago
@lmaostrnoob ok someone mad idc if lebron not even close to mj who be comparing them the media and ppl like you
kingdanny4754 6 months ago
@kingdanny4754
shh u got raped so yo respond with this weak ass shiy. shhh
lmaostrnoob 6 months ago
@lmaostrnoob gomenasi meaning im sorry. but i dont have time to argue with ppl i respect your opinion.
kingdanny4754 6 months ago
forgot about Wade
CHRISTIANABUSED 6 months ago