I just love Toradze's performance of the Prokofiev 3d! I am happy to hear every single note of it clearly. And so dynamic. I find the tempo great. Not too slow, not too fast. Bravo!!!
...interesting to see all these distinguished commentators slugging it out over the "best" Prokofiev...I would say, this guy certainly knows how to put on a spectacle...how is Paavo Jarvi related to the other Jarvi?...
I cannot understand all the criticism of tempo and pace here. Since when is playing Prokofiev (or anyone else) all about speed?!?!?!? Yes, Aregerich is incredible in this piece. But is there really only one possible satisfying performance?? Toradze says something in this piece that no one else does!!!
For those that are turned off by his sound, have you heard descriptions of Prokofiev's own playing?
Toradze is fascinating to watch - just saw him with Thierry Fischer on Prokofiev 1st here - but tempos slow. Paavo Jarvi - whenever will anything he does these days come to any kind of life (even if unrecognizable)? NHK plays decently - but unintentionally funny how bored the Japs look. They deserve so much better on podium than this. To NHK: Invite Toradze back to play this with choice of Stenz, Volkov, T. Fischer, Nott, Edward Gardner, Metzmacher.
The beginning was pretty boring and the dramatic jerks he does aren't helping with his playing. He looks healthy enough to bang the life out of a piano without having to use his whole body.
I heard very different things of him. Once I heard a Prokofiev 2 that sounded like he had gone mad. Accents on impossible places, and ugly ffff's.....but he maybe a genius on good days!
I love watching any pianist play this concerto. When I play it, I cannot tell what it looks like, except from a video after the fact. Also a good one is the Byron Janis with Kondrashin.
At 4:12 I thought the dude was gonna cry! Yikes. Well, I still prefer the Kapell recording. The orchestra here is not very good and Toradze knows it-he's pissed!
This is an AWFUL approach - so brutal! My goodness! His sound is so lacking in variety, and as for the orchestra trying to play Russian music - heaven preserve us!
Hmmm. Slow section was very good. However, the ending I wasnt impressed with. He cheated on the fast sextuplet seconds, and you constantly hear him slamming on the pedal. Im not saying he is making mistakes, but he sounds very haphazard. Some notes will be very much louder than others around, which sounds clumsy.
He's very ham-handed at 4:00 when the "walking speed theme appears and marked "piano" by Prokofiev but "slamed down" as "forte" by Toradze. He sounds like he's playing as an entrant in the Meriwether Post Piano Competition.
I've heard him play other things, all slow. He and Friedrich Vuhrer must be close friends. I really wonder if he's capable of any more speed, not that I'm looking for speed. This concerto has been rushed too many times.
as interesting as this interpretation is i don't believe it is very good. The man misses the point of the whole thing. Here prokofiev is showing his extraordinary ability to compose in a high contrapuntal stylea and this man is bluring it all together so that we cannot here the real coutnerpoint. Also it is annoying that i can hear him bang on the pedal through a lot of this concerto. He needs to let the pedal go and make his staccatos as short as possible. His slow section is wonderful though!
Great performance! Maybe a little too much stretching of tempo in the middle section, but nonetheless, absolute stellar playing from Maestro Toradze,not to mention great work from Paavo and the NHK Orchestra!
I just love Toradze's performance of the Prokofiev 3d! I am happy to hear every single note of it clearly. And so dynamic. I find the tempo great. Not too slow, not too fast. Bravo!!!
iwnathan 3 months ago
...interesting to see all these distinguished commentators slugging it out over the "best" Prokofiev...I would say, this guy certainly knows how to put on a spectacle...how is Paavo Jarvi related to the other Jarvi?...
fredericfranc 7 months ago
I do not like his interpretation... I prefer Horacio Gutierrez.
IolanaIolas 8 months ago
@IolanaIolas --- yes indeed, Gutierrez is awesome at this and the second - i bought the CD after listening on youtube ... fantastic
roo159 7 months ago
I do not like...... the interpretation is boring, is not moving so slow with that time is also very overacted
no me gusta ....la interpretación es aburrida, no es emcionante con ese tiempo tan lento además me parece muy sobreactuado
jorgeandresossa 1 year ago
I cannot understand all the criticism of tempo and pace here. Since when is playing Prokofiev (or anyone else) all about speed?!?!?!? Yes, Aregerich is incredible in this piece. But is there really only one possible satisfying performance?? Toradze says something in this piece that no one else does!!!
For those that are turned off by his sound, have you heard descriptions of Prokofiev's own playing?
keenanonie 1 year ago
the tempo complemented perfectly with his body shape...
fat and clumsy...
But his dynamics and accents on the pieces are absolutely fascinating....
AllegroDemolish 1 year ago
Toradze is fascinating to watch - just saw him with Thierry Fischer on Prokofiev 1st here - but tempos slow. Paavo Jarvi - whenever will anything he does these days come to any kind of life (even if unrecognizable)? NHK plays decently - but unintentionally funny how bored the Japs look. They deserve so much better on podium than this. To NHK: Invite Toradze back to play this with choice of Stenz, Volkov, T. Fischer, Nott, Edward Gardner, Metzmacher.
Thank you for posting this.
davehs23 1 year ago
The beginning was pretty boring and the dramatic jerks he does aren't helping with his playing. He looks healthy enough to bang the life out of a piano without having to use his whole body.
th3wing3dpaint3r 2 years ago
I heard very different things of him. Once I heard a Prokofiev 2 that sounded like he had gone mad. Accents on impossible places, and ugly ffff's.....but he maybe a genius on good days!
PianistFN 2 years ago
Me gusta más la versión de Pompa Baldi
MrEuroaquilon 2 years ago 3
nelia!!!:(((
minibushta 2 years ago
H Is GREAT!! BRAVO TORADZE!!!
GIGILO26 2 years ago 6
I understand that this concerto can be run into speed demon antics but this is too slow to me. It lacks force and drive.
Hervinbalfour 2 years ago 3
for goodness sake, hasn't anyone martha argerich play it!!!???? hers is the best by far!!!!
kyleclef 2 years ago 4
He looks like a pumpkin :D Good job!
shaermy 3 years ago
the last two minutes is just mind blowing
koreanjeenyus 3 years ago 4
I love watching any pianist play this concerto. When I play it, I cannot tell what it looks like, except from a video after the fact. Also a good one is the Byron Janis with Kondrashin.
biegel88 3 years ago
At 4:12 I thought the dude was gonna cry! Yikes. Well, I still prefer the Kapell recording. The orchestra here is not very good and Toradze knows it-he's pissed!
Grigor99 3 years ago
good observation.
mdoub 3 years ago 3
William Kapell's recording with Dallas/Dorati remains my favorite and is pianistically without peer.
oktalp 3 years ago 2
helllll yeaaaa tha was GREAt!! idont care wat u guys say
iEnjoi 3 years ago
Just look at that shining BULGING cranium!
This stout fellow is on a high protein diet I am sure!He played the ever living sh*t out of that piano.
Hooray for Prokofiev for composing it and stubs who played it like it was his own!
tinrooflighthouse 3 years ago
This is an AWFUL approach - so brutal! My goodness! His sound is so lacking in variety, and as for the orchestra trying to play Russian music - heaven preserve us!
orpheusads 3 years ago 3
he just sounds like he's ploughing through it, and can't wait to get to the end. it's too heavy and lumpy. bad job mate
Will170392 2 years ago 2
bleah!
thelittleliszt 3 years ago
I think Toradzes interpretations of Prokofievs concertos are the best. This is quite slow but keep in mind its not presto.
Still I prefer the recording with Gergiev.
10151080w 3 years ago
Can this man play the third movement any SLOWER?
KTJ777 3 years ago 2
He plays this concerto like Van Cliburn, but he sounds, unfortunately, a bit amateurish in parts, whereas Cliburn is a pro all the way through.
selfpraisepomp 3 years ago
Warm-blooded pianist playing with a cold orchestra.
Contrappunto 3 years ago 3
resembles Sokolov
lol
spv88 3 years ago
Have you heard his Prokoviev 2?
PreeoWahn 3 years ago
thank god he took it at a reasonable tempo.
i love argerich's performance, but it's just too fast.
though the begininning was a little slow, once it sped up by the 32 note passage, it was perfect tempo.
did anyone else not see a tempo change at the poco piu mosso? cuz i didn't.
i like that he used pedal, but less and less deeply would be nice. you don't have to floor it to use the pedal! it has many levels.
overall very good techinically!
conclassic 3 years ago
ThanQ for posting it!
I went to this concert.His performance was REALLY GREAT!! The hall was rang wiz the sound of amazement when just the 1st mov was finished.
But I missed to watch it on TV..
I'm waitin that anybody's postin the 1st and
2nd movs as well.
repersonudonknow 3 years ago
Toradze is The GREATEST!!!!
NiiiinOoOo 3 years ago
absoluetly , he plays prokofiev superb
better than argerich , his mood is geniues .......
i am big fan of toradze , what about you?
kempff95 2 years ago 3
Me tooo I just love him! <3
NiiiinOoOo 2 years ago
Unlike most of living superstar pianists. Toradze has a great musicianship This is a magnificent performance. Thank you for posting.
CoolJay77 3 years ago
Hmmm. Slow section was very good. However, the ending I wasnt impressed with. He cheated on the fast sextuplet seconds, and you constantly hear him slamming on the pedal. Im not saying he is making mistakes, but he sounds very haphazard. Some notes will be very much louder than others around, which sounds clumsy.
gammaromeo 3 years ago
wow he's a great pianist. this movement, actually this whole concerto, is very technically and musically challenging
jcasbell 4 years ago
He's very ham-handed at 4:00 when the "walking speed theme appears and marked "piano" by Prokofiev but "slamed down" as "forte" by Toradze. He sounds like he's playing as an entrant in the Meriwether Post Piano Competition.
PrinceRostislav 4 years ago
I've heard him play other things, all slow. He and Friedrich Vuhrer must be close friends. I really wonder if he's capable of any more speed, not that I'm looking for speed. This concerto has been rushed too many times.
PrinceRostislav 4 years ago
as interesting as this interpretation is i don't believe it is very good. The man misses the point of the whole thing. Here prokofiev is showing his extraordinary ability to compose in a high contrapuntal stylea and this man is bluring it all together so that we cannot here the real coutnerpoint. Also it is annoying that i can hear him bang on the pedal through a lot of this concerto. He needs to let the pedal go and make his staccatos as short as possible. His slow section is wonderful though!
tacobell200099 4 years ago
Masterful. I don't care about speed, The Prokofiev 3rd is hard at a tempo of six beats per minute! You are awesome, thanks for the post!
ShinjitsuNoIta 4 years ago
you are right!!!!
ShinjitsuNoIta 4 years ago
I DO wish he'd get on with it!
ArmchairPundit 4 years ago 2
yes = that's all that needs to be said
roo159 3 years ago
Great performance! Maybe a little too much stretching of tempo in the middle section, but nonetheless, absolute stellar playing from Maestro Toradze,not to mention great work from Paavo and the NHK Orchestra!
logenisti 4 years ago 2