@GreatkingAlexander you make it sound like there are teams that won championships had someone do it by themselves. Even Jordan couldn't do it by himself.
Its is time for Kobe to stand up and say this again, because the lakers are stinking up the place right, they lost to the friggin cavs today! as a lakers fan that is a damn shame and disgrace. do it mitch, get carmelo anthony. do it now!
oh puh-lease all you laker fans know kobe gave up on the lakers thats why he demanded a trade and dissed andrew bynum, he only stayed cuz they didnt let him to be traded and there happens to be other players that people call quitters yet they NEVER demanded a trade just left their team cuz they were a free agent
@cb4allstar4 damn dude, all you do is hate on kobe. i see your comments all over youtube about kobe and they all say the same shit. c'mon man, what's your problem?
this video is proof kobe never won shit by "himself" so reggie miller and charles barkely need to hop off his sack. kobe was going through the same thing wade has been through the last couple years, both asked for help. lakers were a winning team before kobe got there. cleveland was all dust when lebron got there, bron put that shitty market on the map for 7 yrs, now hes moved on to a better market and better players.bosh didnt wanna join bron in clev. only in miami, scenerios play a big role
@Cheema0113 mvps are decided by sports journalists, many of whom have a vendetta against Kobe. Championships on the other hand are an objective measure of greatness. I mean how can you not give Kobe the MVP during his 2005-06 season? People rave about Lebron's stats but if Kobe puts up big numbers, then people say he's being a ballhog. It's such a big double standard
@paydog23 Kobe is called a ballhog because he keeps shootin even if his shots r not hittin. Lebron on the other looks to make plays for others when his shot is not going in. Don`t beleive me just rewatch this year`s nba finals. I mean kobe took 24 shots and shot 24 % from the field. dats disgusting, Kobe is just lucky he plays on a good team which can bail him out all the time.
@Cheema0113 sometimes his team can and lebron had top shooters lol guess hoe he got all his assist his team can bail him out and unlike lebron kobe doesnt give a fuck about stats thats why he keeps shooting
@andrake Malone has no rings and Horry has 7. Yes Malone is still better than Horry becaue Malone was always a superstar(until his last season) and Horry was never anything more than a role player. But when we're comparing 2 superstars like Kobe and LeBron, that's when we can use the ring argument. And by virtue of the rings argument, as the best player and leader of his team, since Kobe just won his fifth ring, and LeBron got eliminated again, Kobe>>LeBron.
@paydog23 Dat is the most bull shit argument rite there. So u sayin Bill Russel is better then MJ because he was the star player of his 11 championship winning team?
@SagarPatelTV exactly right. no one can rip kobe for saying how he feels. i mean just look at the pathetic roster they had. smush parker? chris mihm? kwame brown? kobe carried that team to the playoffs all by himself
yeah bandwagoners suck. ive been a lakers fan forever through all the bad seasons after shaq left and now we finally won again. bandwagoners can't appreciate that.
Kobe wakes up at 5 every morning and goes to the track and runs for an hour (which is already probably more than what you do in a day) and then he hits the gym for two hours. And then after the gym he's on the court practising. He shoots 3000+ shots day. How the hell did for find that out? How long have you been living with Kobe? And Do you cook him breakfast in the morning?
Also you are an imbecile. Its clear you are. You say T-Mac barely plays. How do you know? Heard it from ESPN? haha Nerd. You don't know squat. If you did hear it from ESPN for the reason of T-Mac's injury plagued year. If you actually know him as a player. He wants to win. he would never "barely play." Gosh you Kobe fans are morons.
Lol i think you've misunderstood me here Ill explain. "He hardly plays" means that he is always injured. It refers to games, not playing time. Lol, you truly are a moron. I don't care about his work regimen": obviously you do because you were stating that Kobe hasn't "worked hard for anything". And obviously he has looking at his regimen.
Who said I thought you were refering to playing time? moron. What I am refering to when I said Kobe worked hard for nothing,is on the court. Even when he was losing people was saying hes the best and ever since the Pau Gasol donation, they're still doing that. He still ballhogs and fans still says he's the best. He can spit on the court and fans will say thats the best move ever done. He's overhyped
Lol you never answered all my questions. I asked "Why Kobe?
Lol you're still confused. I'm talking about Tmac, not Kobe when I said he hardly plays. And you thought I meant he hardly gets playing time, but I meant games. Lol and you call me a moron.
Lol I'm not confused. And lol I did not think you were talking about playing time moron. And I don't have to answer to some 14 year olds question. Nor do I have to explain anything to you. You can think I meant playing time all you want but thats not what I meant.
"if he had the team Kobe has, he would get into the finals as well" So Kobe is an average player, but yet Tmac can do the same things with the same team, and yet Tmac is a better player? Haha this "argument" is pure comedy. To state that Kobe is an average player is as idiotic as your love for Tracy. Why would so many analyst and fans and coaches say that Kobe is the best in the league if he's just an average player?
Yup. If T-Mac had all of those all stars and productive players to play with and all that depth, he would lead a teams to the finals too. Meaning, moron, anyone could thrive with the lakers depth. Its the players around Kobe. Its not saying Kobe is better. If Kobe was left alone, we'd all know what he'd do. Its funny reading ur homo love for Kobe saying this such as,
Why Kobe? Why not say Tmac or LeBron or even an equally average player like OJ Mayo? What makes people compare Kobe to MJ so frequently... because obviously there must be something there that shows resemblances or that is better than other players? Or else, why bother? Why would I be defending Kobe from degrading remarks if he was only an average player?
Because people are on his nuts too much. the only thing thats somewhat close to MJ that Kobe has is scoring. Thats it. because its all he knows how to do. everything else its not even close. Wade and LeBron are the closest thing to MJ. Even T-Mac has skills closer to MJ the Kobe does out side of scoring.
Lol, why is anybody arguing trunks06...this guy obvoiously is an asshole. The lack of actual knowledge he posses make me wonder how old he really is. Kobe averages from 2002-03 round out 30 PPG, 7 RPG, and 6 APG so there's a season he didn't just score.Your logic seems to be that Kobe is a ballhog...so that's the only reason he puts up that number but the reality is, he plays D on great offensive players, can rebound and pass..oh and one of the best shooters in the game. That's a complete player
Ok take his advice and bask in your own stupidity. GO and leave thinking Kobe is the best basketball player ever to play the game. Go live in your dreamworld. Maybe when you get older, you will understand.
Did I ever say that Kobe is the best to play the game? MJ is the GOAT. Kobe is the best in the NBA, right now. You DID think that i was talking about playing time, or else you wouldn't have answered with this:
"He barely plays? But yet the guy scores 20+, 5+ and 5+ a game."
That is reffering to playing time. Regardless of my age, you still should answer my questions, it proves that you have no answer because you're bringing up my age as an excuse.
Ummm no kid. shows how much of a moron you are. What YOU truly meant is that he barely trys on the court. And yet he manages to score 20 5 and 5. And for your questions because it doesn't prove crap. I've said things about Kobe over and over again. I don't need to explain myself again to a 14 year old. And about Kobe being the best in the nba. He is not the best. Its fans and analysts like you who make him seem that way. He is overhyped. Right now its a tie between LeBron and Wade.
Yea he passes when he wants to. He can pass but doesn't. Look at his in consistent stats this season outside of scoring. The guy is no complete player
Lol haha, you're telling me what i meant? And you're calling me a moron! I know what i meant, don't tell me that i meant something different you ignorant fuck. You WILL answer my questions because if you don't, it will just show that i'm right. My age didn't seem to concern your judgment before so shut the fuck up and sotp making excuses you weak excuse for a human.
I WILL not answer crap. Not answering you will not make it seem like your right, it will make you look like a dimwitt. Non Laker fans/Kobe fans will laugh at you because of your stupidity and homoerotic love for Kobe. Who cares if I'm a weak excuse for a human being? If I'm that then your a weak excuse for basketball fan. Saying Kobe is the best? Why don't we elect the leader of Al-Qaida to be the next president?
Lol haha, so you failing to answer my quesiton make me look like a dimwitt? "jeeazy" agreed with me, but i don't see anyoe agreein with you, oh wait... now i'm going to get your 5 other accounts sending me messages saying Kobe sucks. Lol you could elect the leader of Al-Qaida, but then you'd be re-electing Bush.
Yup. Instead of correcting you, I can make you look like you know everything and look stupid. And as for anyone not agreeing with me. Not yet. 5 other accounts. hahahaha 5 other accounts? You sound paranoid and scared. hahahahahhaha
Haha, well i don't look stupid do I? Why would i be paranoid? Paranoid, of someone disagreeing with me over the internet on an opinion? Wow you ARE sad...
Really? I'm sad? Because a 14 year old says so? Wow, your mind has some growing to do? Anywho, thats why Kobe is NOT going back to the finals this year.
Yes my mind DOES have some growing to do, after all i'm only 14... but it's a shame your mind is about to stop its "growing" and yet you haven't matued much... You're going to eat your words. Now i'm not going to say who's going to go to the finals or not, because i'm no prophet...
hahahaaha Who cares what you say about me because nothing a 14 year old says about another is true. Especially if you don't know me. And the point is, Kobe is not the best player in the NBA. So please kid stick to the subject please.
Haha, you're telling me to stick to the subject? Youre the one who keeps saying that Im a 14 year old and that my opinion has no validity. I believe that that is off topic, don't you? I was on topic... I asked you a question that had to do with the topic, but you didn't answer it just because Im 14 years old, thats sad... But don't worry, I don't feel poorly of you, after all I asked a difficult question for you to answer, didn't I?
Really? Really? I've told you about Kobe this whole time. If you don't get how I felt about Kobe which I explained this whole time, then I feel sorry for you. Dummy. Gosh whats wrong with you Kobe fans. Like I said, on to the subject!
Lol that just proves you had no point. I'm still waiting for my answer. You're the one who's making lame excuses and ignoring my questions. go ahead answer it, because right now... You're off subject.
Not really, seems ur slow or something. I told you what I thought of Kobe over a million times and all your saying is that you feel sorry for me and that I'm a sorry excuse. So?! The point is is that Kobe will not go into the finals and he is not the best player in the nba. LeBron and Wade are tied in that category. Do not play mind games with me.
No your dumb. I've even told you now and your still stuck on the question gig. Kid I will not answer your question. And that is why Kobe is one overrated bastard.
How am i dumb? I'm not the one who misunderstood my comment and who thinks i'm playing mind games on you. So you failing to answer a question makes Kobe ans overated bastard? lol you are a LOT
Lol I told you earlier why I thought Kobe was overrated. Why answer a question that was already asked you dimwitt. If you can't remember what I said then look backwards.
If you cannot find it, your blind. Read every comment. I've already told you what I think? Any more defending against Kobe or will you keep talking about the question?
I've looked as much as i want to, and i haven't found your answer to my question. What do i have to defend Kobe from? You accused or attacked him about anything. I've defended him from all your claims and now i'm waiting for your answer... Why not repeat yourself once more? you;ve been doing it the whole time, so why not?
You must be blind or have some sort of comprehending disorder or something. And you didn't defend him from everything. From me talking about Kobe, somehow it went to me and when I shot that that down, it went to your "question". I won't repeat myself again.
Wow one of your mothers must have dropped you when you were a child because you can't be this dumb and still be considered a human... You never answered my question, and i defended Kobe from most of your lame attacks. You know what, i have a life, and i'm going to use it, so don't reply back.
hahahahahahahahaha Talk about my attacks are lame. You stole that insult from a TV show lol. All your doing is making personal insults. The same type of insults at that. So if you had a life in the first place, you wouldn't respond at all. Nerd.
Haha, a '21' year old called a 14 year old a 'nerd' over the internet. Really, is that from a tv show? I guess i wouldn't know that, after all i don't spend my time watching tv and arguing to other people over the internet. So yes, your attacks are lame. If you have nothing else to say about Kobe, then why are you still arguing. If i never proved you wrong in anything then you would still be on the subject, but you're not.
Not really. you shifted the arguement kid. You started personally attacking me. Don't blame me for something you did. How do you know I spend all my time watching to and over the internet. And no thats not from a TV show, thats what you're acting like. If you have nothing to say about Kobe, you don't reply. Because after all T-Mac>Kobe!
Did i say you watch tv and are on internet all the time? No, i did not. Learn to comprehend sentences like you once told me. If you have nothing to say or have no proof to back up your theory of "T-Mac>Kobe!" then don't reply. So i'll just leave you to your derranged thoughts... Goodnight!
Yup u said it indirectly kid. and Oh but I do. I can show you footage for years that T-Mac is better than Kobe and Kobe cannot handle him when he is healthy. its not deranged, its the truth. Its sad you blind kobe fans will never see it.
Yes i did say it indirectyl, but how do you know i was talking abojut you? Is it because it's true, and you're just being paranoid? See here's were the mind games begin, not before. You're right, i will never seen that Tmac is better than Kobe and millions of others will never see the 'truth' either, so i'll go back to my life...
cant handle him? man ive seen kobe swat mcgrady's shit at least 5 times over the years. i dont know what u mean by that but kobe can definitely handle t-mac defensively.
@RealDeal336 T-Mac will be healthy. Your lucky the rockets are holding him back. When he gets traded to another team and get playing time. The league is over. Including your precious Kobe. Just watch So like snoop dogg says. "So just chill till the next episode.."
And by the way, just because I am telling the truth, makes me a different age? Think i'm 3, 5 20, 50 or 100. The point is, is that the guy ballhogs and has an all star team to hide behind.
Kobe took a team fool of scrubs to the playoffs by himself. Put Tmac in that situation an you would NOT get the same results. Kobe's a bigger teammate and leader than Tmac. Lol Kobe's the most feared player in the league. He attracts the most defenders in the league and he still manages to put up his numbers. Lol what are you doing with Tmac.
actually its just cus kobe can score like MJ. But MJ won tons of Defensive MVP awards which Kobe hasn't even been in the running for. and their fadeaway jumpshot looks similar and they can both jump incredibly high.
a hypocrite. No matter how much you don't want to admit it. Kobe's a ballhog. By the way, wait until T-Mac gets back. Can't wait to see him get revenge on him. Kobe----> Overrated. Just telling you the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts....
Which you haven't. No matter what you say or how much you think your so "smart" or how you can "debate"> The facts are this, he is overrated. Theres nothing special about his game. The guys being compared to MJ and Kobes game is nowhere near. He is a ballhog. His stats other than scoring are random some games he'll have 1 some games he'll have 3 some games he'll have 7. So what if he's a shooting guards. Other top shooting guards in the league average over 5-6 assists
and Kobe can't he's a ballhog. His assists are as random as the mario kart weapon box, you never know what ur going to get. All he does consistently is shoot, shoot, and shoot. He is not an all around player. He can shoot and defend a little and thats it. All this defending of Kobe just proves your mind-controlled by the media. You like whatever they say you like. I alike with others see the truth. Your head is so far up Kobe's rear, that you can't even see the truth. Whether I'm immature, 21
media hypes up lebron waaaaay more than kobe. He's the best option the lakers have. When you can score 81 points in a game as the shooting gaurd, you don't have to pass. Plus you can't argue w/ the results, if kobe never passes then he's basically the majority of the lakers scoring which may sound bad but they've been to the finals twice in a row now and won once w/o shaq so whatever he's doing is working and if, as you say, he's doing it by himself it just further proves how good he is.
I don't care what you say and think of me, especially from a 14 year old shrimp. And as for me being immature and an idiot, what does that have to do with the topic? Trying to get me to stop. Hell no, hes an overrated bastard. Other Kobe fans agree that he is overrated. LeBron and D-Wade does some of the same things he does and gets no credit for it. What I have proved as a fact, (which other fans see), you just set aside as an opinion in your mind. And you also think you "embarrased" me...
Yeh i totally agree, everyone scores 81 points in a game, 62 points in 3 quarters, makes 12 threes in a game, sets a record for 61 points at MSG, leads a consecutive bronze winning olympic team to its first gold, outscores a team in just 3 quarters, scores 45+ points in 4 consecutive games, averages 43.4 PPG for a month, sets a franchise record for the most 40-point games in a season (27), averages 35.4 PPG in a season, becomes the oyungest player to score 20,000 points.
scores 50+ points for 4 consecutive games, and has 10 50 point games in a season. Good night, clearly Kobe deserves a bigger pat on the back than any other player in the NBA, but yet he doesn't get it, because people like you (idiots) seem to think he hasn't earnt any respect. Just check his resume.
He doesn't deserve respect. He ballhogs and doesn't really trust his teammates. He's just now starting to learn to really play with them. He cried about leaving a team that he couldn't lead. And when the lakers give pau gasol away, he becomes the best. I don't get how you media slaves think. The guy is a selfish ballhog and gets a pat on the back. And when people get better stats, you create excuses for him and people eat it up
He doesn't deserve respect because he hasn't worked hard for everything. Everything was just given to him! Jordan, he worked hard for everything. Kobe was given free players, refs give him calls all the time, catches attitude with players, and fans and analysts making his plays look like the best basketball moves ever done and all he does is do what everyone else can do. He doesn't deserve crap because he's nothing but a ball hog. He needs to drop the nba and go to and1
Lol you're letting your Jealousy and hatred get to your head. Kobe's done much more than any of us can imagine. Kobe wakes up at 5 every morning and runs for about an hour. He then hits the gym for two hours, and then hits 3000+ shots. If that isn't hard work then what is? Sitting behind a computer judging a man who you don't know, and have never worked as hard as before?
I'm not jealous of Kobe he's nothing to be jealous about. Your letting the media get to your head. He is given everything and how do you know? You don't know me KID. Ok he works hard in practice. And he scores on the court but like I keep saying everyone keeps overhyping the dude. Nothing he does is amazing. Nothing.
Kobe has one of the best work ethics in the league. Kobe earned his spot on the "3 peat" team. The Lakers gave up their starting centre for him, a 17 year old. When (recently) has Kobe "caught" an attitude with players/analyst? LeBron gets more Hype than Kobe for your information. And Michael Jordan had the same thing for him. The NBA turned him into an international name. They were in a recession and needed a superstar to lift them out of it.
Ok but how does that translate on the court scoring high and rarely doing much else? LeBron is not overhyped. You can clearly see he does it all on the court. what Kobe does is average on a superstar level.Michael Jordan is not overhyped either. You clearly saw all the things he done. Yea the NBA was in a recession but he was not overhyped, he was that good. And plus you were nothing but a mere kid then. you know nothing.
What do you think they are doing with LeBron these days? The man makes a tomahawk dunk and he gets compared to Kobe and Jordan. Lol Kobe is a SHOOTING guard, and one of the best at it. So of course he's going to have SHOOTING records. Putting the weight of a team on your shoulders and leading them to the playoffs is not "ballhogging", its called great leadership.
Kobe is a ballhog. He is not a great leader. A capable one of ballhogging but is not a great leader. He can only do one thing well consistently, score. Score and thats it. Other stats are random, you don't know what ur going to get from him. He plays decent defense. If your kobes teammate you pray he passes the ball. A person with great leadership is LeBron he knows when to pass, when to score, and plays defense very well. If you think all LeBron does is dunk, you need to watch more of his game
If Wade or Tmac does it, I GUARRANTEE you that you would be saying that they're the best because they can lead a team, so shut up you hypocrite. Don't blame Kobe for any ill-gotten respect or any hype that is pointed towards him (and I dont mean blame every analyst/Kobe fan/ref). Blame the analysts, fans or Refs who do so and most importantly blame the NBA.
Well if T-Mac or Wade can lead they're team to championships and seeing what they can do every night, I would consider them the best. They're great leaders too that knows when to score and when to pass. Your the hypocrite. Its clear your a strict Kobe fan when you say things like "LeBron does a tomahawk dunk and gets compared to Kobe and LeBron" When he does a whole lot more. I and the rest of NBA fans see that Kobe has things given to him and haven't worked much for anything at all
You know what... Fuck you! I really don't care anymore. Just go back to sucking on Tmac's tit. I have no time to argue with a dumbass over the internet. YOu're just not worht my time, i have al if outside of the internet, and i don't use it to persuade others that a successful athlete who has worked WAY harder than i have in my life, gets things he doesn't deserve.
Sucking on T-Mac's tit... Isn't that what your doing to Kobe's nipple? lol! Reallly dude..... Your the dummy, you say things like LeBron does a tomahawk and gets compared Kobe and MJ hahahahahahaahaha talk about me being dumb, that statement you said yourself proves your a pure imbecile hahaha He hasn't worked hard for nothing. The only thing the guy works on is his scoring. Thats it and its all he'll ever be known for.
By the way, I never suck on anyones nipple, I just know true talent. You, You suck on nipples and suck them hard. You say things like Kobe has worked very hard when he hasn;t. You sound like Kobe's baby mother or something. His little side girlfriend. Really dude....you really need to take off the blindfold and get exposed to the truth
Lol you need to get that nipple out of your mouth and see the truth. While you're at it, I heard Tracy wants his dick back. LOL you call me an imbecile but yet you type this: "talk about me being dumb". Kobe wakes up at 5 every morning and goes to the track and runs for an hour (which is already probably more than what you do in a day) and then he hits the gym for two hours. And then after the gym he's on the court practising. He shoots 3000+ shots day.
Who got who's nipple in who's mouth. Not I. I see talent. And Kobe, he's average. T-Mac is better than him and if he had the team Kobe has, he would get into the finals as well. Hell, if T-Mac was given what Kobe has, he would be in the finals. I don't care about his work regimen. The point is that he's an average player, overhyped by FANS that REALLY suck cock like yourself.
He has so many more accomplishments than you, Tmac and LeBron combined. Lol why do even support Tmac. He hardly plays. If I was a fan of his, I would get frustrated and start bashing other players who are better than him... on no, wait... never mind...
He barely plays? But yet the guy scores 20+, 5+ and 5+ a game. If he does that when barely trying, then hes better than Kobe. He can ballhog like Kobe does and do it better than him. But he understand the concept of playing as a TEAM. T-Mac is real talent thats why I go for him. He's had his injury plagued season, but he will be back next year. Isn't that what your doing. Defending Kobe and saying false things about T-Mac knowing if T-Mac was healthy, that he'll open up a can of ButtWhoop on 24
To them it's a business, so of course they are going to make their stars look good. Kobe doesn't ask for more respect than he deserves. He just goes out there and wins like he is paid for.
Just look at Kobe's numbers in the Playoffs during the Lakers Championship run.
2000 : 21.1ppg, 4.4rpb, 4.5 apg
2001 : 29.4ppg, 7.3rpg , 6.1apg
2002 : 26.6ppg, 5.8rpg, 4.6apg
It is because of today's sports media that individual performances in sports are given so much importance. Winning as a team is what makes great players. And Kobe Bryant has done that 4 times (Finals MVP in the latter), whether you like to accept it or not.
your prayers were answered kobe. the season after this somehow the lakers got gasol (i guess memphis saw something in kwame) reached the finals and now they won a championship. lebron should have done this after game 6 this yr.
Doesnt matter, like kobe said, the lakers of 2000-2002 wouldnt have won the championships without kobe, they wouldnt have won em without horry, not even without phil jackson. each laker brought their qualities to the team. take one out and they wouldnt of won, forget shaq.
than kobe. It seems you need to think. I'll help you do it. Take shaq off of the lakers and what do you have? The Lakers of 05 and 06. Like I said before. Just think about it.
lol i didnt come on here to spell right and stuff i came on here to say t-mac sucks lol. rockets are doing way better without em and hes never done anything great really hes just an average player
Lebron even said Kobe is better then him, Kobe has more rings then Wade and lebron put together, and if u say Kobe only got his rings because of Shaq then u are wroung, Kobe got them WITH Shaq. Not to mention Lebron James has yet to make a clutch shot. Do u even watch basketball trunks06?
Beefy get a clue. Do you watch basketball. When watching a national televised game how many times do the announcers question all the calls the Lakers get? Everyone knows its rigged for the Lakers because of the ratings.
Second how many rings does Horry have? 6 or 7, does that make him better then MJ.
Ohh and dont even try comparing Kobe to MJ all I have to do is site todays game and all the leads the Lakers blew instead of building on like MJ would have.
oh don't try to be technical. he got them becaause of sahqs dominance. you take shaq away at around that time and you got yourself the lakers in 06 and 07. Of course i watch basketball beefy, how else would I be able to argue with you? Think man. I tell you abouty these laker fans
Every keeps saying Shaq led them and without him they would have won, but Kobe was important too. Only reason why people can say that is when shaq went to Miami they won a championship, but what did they have? A good ass shooting guard ( Dwade) . Come on it doesn't matter how dominate a player is the team has to be good to win a championship. Just look at Lebron and Cleveland, he's very dominate yet his team almost got swept by the magics. Think.
If Kobe was left alone, then there would've been no title. It was shaq that won the finals mvps. It was shaq that was blocking shots. It was shaq that was dunking on every center in sight. Kobe had some high scoring games and clutch performances, but at the end of the day, if you knew Shaq had a bad game. Most likely the team was in for a long game. So thats why everyones saying, no shaq, no championship. In Miami was a different story. Shaq didn't have to do much. D-wade was that much better
The Lakers wouldn't have even made it to the finals without Kobe Bryant during Shaq's stint with the Lakers. He was as valuable to Lakers as Shaq. People need to stop with that nonsense about winning by "yourself". Every championship team in the past 30 years has had at least 2 all-stars or future Hall of Famers.
Get off of Kobes Nutsack. shaq in his prime was dominant and if you would have replaced him with another decent sg at that time, let6s say allen iverson, tracy mcgrady or vince carter, they would've still won titles. Let shaq leave at the time and let ballhogging kobe have the reigns and what do you get? The 05-06, 06-07 season. It took donations from other teams for him to win titles..... Without that he wouldn't even get past the second round. Think realistic here....
Lol you're "argument" is quite hilarious. Not only did Shaq leave. Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, Rick Fox, Brian Shaw and Tracy Murray left, all 10+ year veterans (minus Derrick). Phill Jackson also left (the greatest coach in NBA history) who replaced these players you ask? Sasha Vujacic, Jordan Farmar, Smush Parker, Maurice Evans, Luke Walton, Brian Cook, Ronny Turiaf, Chris Mihm, Andrew Bynum and last but not least Kwame Brown.
None of these players had more than 5 years of experience (minus Mihm who had 6) Most of them were rookies. So you can understand why the Lakers plummeted. The Lakers made some smart, overdue trades and acquired Gasol, Fisher etc. Think realistic here...
Oh come on. Stop it with the excuses. All you Kobe fans do is make excuses. The realstic fact is that He's not a good leader. and It took donations, (Gasol) to get them where they are today. The trades were not smart. The GM just gave Gasol away to a team the Gm admired. Its wack! I'm thinking realistic, because if you take all those all star calibur players away and swap them with mediocre players, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
Im using excuses am I? I gave you real facts, (and you people claim that we ignore the facts, lol) and all you could respond with was if Lakers did this, if Kobe ... Where are the facts in if? I guarantee you, that if a GM gave away an all-star calibre player away just because he admired the GM of another team, he would be fired immediately. Lakers made smart trades to aquire Gasol. They traded Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, Aaron McKie and
Lol Kobe averaged 4.9 assists per game this year. The League Average was 3.0 APG. Lol does that mean that if Kobe *rarely* passes than the whole league all pass once in a blue mean as an average? I never knew *facts* were excuses. Lol i just explained in an essay as to how Kobe is a leader, obviously you cannot converse in an orderly manner. You're 21? Lol you must be feeling embarrassed, Im only 14.
Dude Kobe only passes when he wants to. Its random. Obviously you have so much of a mancrush on Kobe that you cannot see. Kobe is overrated. Only kids like you and the media make him like he's a god. He is not a God. Nothings fascinating about him. One player whos better than Kobe, D-Wade. Does the same stuff he does and truly does it all. He doesn't passes when he only feels generous. And Theres about 2 others that is better than him. And dude, why should I feel embarrased when you haven't
even proved anything. Kobe's assist is 4.9 wow big freakin woop. LeBron averages, 6. D-Wade averages 7. As a player who supposedly have an all around game, he's supposed to be high in that stat also, which isn't that great. Its average.
two first round picks in 08 and 2010 and also gave Memphis the rights to Marc Gasol. How exactly is Kobe not a leader? Since you dont give me any facts, I will prove you wrong WITH facts (wow isnt that surprising for a Laker fan?) Kobe is the first to encourage his teammates, he is the first to tap them on the shoulder, hes the first to dictate what happens on the court, and he is the one who leads the team huddle.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblahblah excuses naexcuses excuses. He is the one that ballhogs also and passes when he feels generous and thats rare. Thats a fact also. He is a ballhog he's no leader
and this is how "do it mitch" was formed
Arun999 2 months ago
I bet Kobe said that to himself before getting locked up in Colorado..lol
FrictionZero 6 months ago
he was straight nd foward lmao!!!
DarkIcek9 6 months ago
press 0 and 7 back nd forth. he says "yep yep yep
pepsixbball 7 months ago
@greatkingalexander thats why kobe has 5 rings
shad0wboy1owns 8 months ago 3
and you call that a leader please just when he realize he could.nt do it by his self a fucking winer
GreatkingAlexander 9 months ago
@GreatkingAlexander you make it sound like there are teams that won championships had someone do it by themselves. Even Jordan couldn't do it by himself.
Elmaln 8 months ago
@Elmaln keep jordan out of it he know it was a struggle but he figured it out thats why that fag lebron gay can.t do it with help or without help
GreatkingAlexander 8 months ago
he needs a hug.
stevo463 10 months ago
Now LA got pau d fish and ron ron.
thanks kobe
2pacisthebest90 11 months ago
presss 2 to hear a pig
WhiteMamba1322 11 months ago
DO YOU WANT TO SEE MORE???? TYPE IN spyderchannel THEN GO TO THE RED SPIDER.......
bladebrandon 11 months ago
Yo to see a great shot by kobe type in spyderchannel then go to the red spider.
bladebrandon 11 months ago
I NEED MY MONEY AND I NEED IT NOWWWWWW!!!!
TrueCall 1 year ago
Its is time for Kobe to stand up and say this again, because the lakers are stinking up the place right, they lost to the friggin cavs today! as a lakers fan that is a damn shame and disgrace. do it mitch, get carmelo anthony. do it now!
scenekidacide 1 year ago
oh puh-lease all you laker fans know kobe gave up on the lakers thats why he demanded a trade and dissed andrew bynum, he only stayed cuz they didnt let him to be traded and there happens to be other players that people call quitters yet they NEVER demanded a trade just left their team cuz they were a free agent
cb4allstar4 1 year ago
@cb4allstar4 all that is done and over with! YOU MAD? kobe's got 5 rings now bitch
reneperezz 1 year ago
@cb4allstar4 damn dude, all you do is hate on kobe. i see your comments all over youtube about kobe and they all say the same shit. c'mon man, what's your problem?
manny24lal 1 year ago
kupchak and buss should of had listen to kobe earlier, as soon as they gave him help, he gave them 3 finals, 2 rings and counting...
jraposo 1 year ago
man, that kobe is an eloquent speaker. wow!
disciple21781 1 year ago
"do something" - hell yeah!!!
hahahahah
kocococoko 1 year ago
Man I love that guy.
littlejay1994 1 year ago
pussy
vladybutt 1 year ago
this video is proof kobe never won shit by "himself" so reggie miller and charles barkely need to hop off his sack. kobe was going through the same thing wade has been through the last couple years, both asked for help. lakers were a winning team before kobe got there. cleveland was all dust when lebron got there, bron put that shitty market on the map for 7 yrs, now hes moved on to a better market and better players.bosh didnt wanna join bron in clev. only in miami, scenerios play a big role
fhab525 1 year ago
@fhab525 "this video is proof kobe never won shit by himself"
No one wins shit by themselves. And Reggie as well as Charles know that obviously.
They were referring to Kobe being the undeniable leader.
"Lakers were a winning team before Kobe got there." Wrong.
For some reason I already knew you were a Lebron fan before even reading all the way through your post.
NinjaLikeTeaBagger 1 year ago
see kobe had a team like dwyane wade those years. Now that he has a team he got 5 rings
wadefan112 1 year ago
Do something? Like Colorado hotel girls?
voulgier 1 year ago
awww poor kobe, couldnt' stand a year or two of losing.
thegov08 1 year ago
Kobe is such a gay faggot.
NBAGOATS 1 year ago
This shows that Kobe needs other players to the finals. Lebron did that without any superstar on his team at the age of 21!
Who is the better player?
Cheema0113 1 year ago
@Cheema0113 how many rings does lebron have?
paydog23 1 year ago
@paydog23
How many mvps does Kobe have?
Cheema0113 1 year ago
@Cheema0113 mvps are decided by sports journalists, many of whom have a vendetta against Kobe. Championships on the other hand are an objective measure of greatness. I mean how can you not give Kobe the MVP during his 2005-06 season? People rave about Lebron's stats but if Kobe puts up big numbers, then people say he's being a ballhog. It's such a big double standard
paydog23 1 year ago 2
@paydog23 Kobe is called a ballhog because he keeps shootin even if his shots r not hittin. Lebron on the other looks to make plays for others when his shot is not going in. Don`t beleive me just rewatch this year`s nba finals. I mean kobe took 24 shots and shot 24 % from the field. dats disgusting, Kobe is just lucky he plays on a good team which can bail him out all the time.
Cheema0113 1 year ago
@Cheema0113 sometimes his team can and lebron had top shooters lol guess hoe he got all his assist his team can bail him out and unlike lebron kobe doesnt give a fuck about stats thats why he keeps shooting
TheKobe24mamba 1 year ago
@paydog23, how many rings does horry have?
andrake 1 year ago
@andrake Malone has no rings and Horry has 7. Yes Malone is still better than Horry becaue Malone was always a superstar(until his last season) and Horry was never anything more than a role player. But when we're comparing 2 superstars like Kobe and LeBron, that's when we can use the ring argument. And by virtue of the rings argument, as the best player and leader of his team, since Kobe just won his fifth ring, and LeBron got eliminated again, Kobe>>LeBron.
paydog23 1 year ago
@paydog23 Dat is the most bull shit argument rite there. So u sayin Bill Russel is better then MJ because he was the star player of his 11 championship winning team?
Cheema0113 1 year ago
@Cheema0113 Bill Russel is the greatest winner...but not a better player than MJ..
xFucklebronandMiami 1 year ago
Horry has 7, but he was very underrated, c'mon, he shot very crucial clutch shots in very important games
nobodysperfect06 1 year ago
@nobodysperfect06
no doubt, horry always could put up big shots and buzzer beaters
JamesBStudios 1 year ago
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@paydog23 how many rings does barkley have?
andrake 1 year ago
@paydog23 how many rings does kmalone have?
andrake 1 year ago
tht one comment made mitch kuptchak get fisher and gasol. thanks kobe for standing up for LA!
SagarPatelTV 2 years ago 74
@SagarPatelTV exactly right. no one can rip kobe for saying how he feels. i mean just look at the pathetic roster they had. smush parker? chris mihm? kwame brown? kobe carried that team to the playoffs all by himself
alexdc5k20 1 year ago 2
@SagarPatelTV dont forget Ariza.
sportygu123 1 year ago
LOL,everyone didnt say anything except for the photographers taking pictures.
TheMatthewMendoza 2 years ago
everybody was like .................. ........
strikername 2 years ago
hahahah "you can't be this dumb and still be considered a human". ownage
InglewoodSkills 2 years ago
i diddnt see many laker fans then..... lol i love bandwagon faggots ill stay with my losing knicks till they get better.......
Th3Best0ne 2 years ago
yeah bandwagoners suck. ive been a lakers fan forever through all the bad seasons after shaq left and now we finally won again. bandwagoners can't appreciate that.
InglewoodSkills 2 years ago
i feel ya man
took so much shit for rockin my la shit in 04 when they had nuthin but stars and culdnt win cuz they culdnt get along
stick with them knicks my dude
they lookin better
thomas's dumb ass fucked that team up a few yrs back drafting nuthin but gaurds.
now he coaching a shitty college team lol.
just hopefully they can keep what they do have until they can grow and add to that
patience.the knicks gonna be back 1 day.
RealDeal336 2 years ago
Kobe wakes up at 5 every morning and goes to the track and runs for an hour (which is already probably more than what you do in a day) and then he hits the gym for two hours. And then after the gym he's on the court practising. He shoots 3000+ shots day. How the hell did for find that out? How long have you been living with Kobe? And Do you cook him breakfast in the morning?
trunks06 2 years ago
Also you are an imbecile. Its clear you are. You say T-Mac barely plays. How do you know? Heard it from ESPN? haha Nerd. You don't know squat. If you did hear it from ESPN for the reason of T-Mac's injury plagued year. If you actually know him as a player. He wants to win. he would never "barely play." Gosh you Kobe fans are morons.
trunks06 2 years ago
Lol i think you've misunderstood me here Ill explain. "He hardly plays" means that he is always injured. It refers to games, not playing time. Lol, you truly are a moron. I don't care about his work regimen": obviously you do because you were stating that Kobe hasn't "worked hard for anything". And obviously he has looking at his regimen.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Who said I thought you were refering to playing time? moron. What I am refering to when I said Kobe worked hard for nothing,is on the court. Even when he was losing people was saying hes the best and ever since the Pau Gasol donation, they're still doing that. He still ballhogs and fans still says he's the best. He can spit on the court and fans will say thats the best move ever done. He's overhyped
trunks06 2 years ago
Lol you never answered all my questions. I asked "Why Kobe?
Lol you're still confused. I'm talking about Tmac, not Kobe when I said he hardly plays. And you thought I meant he hardly gets playing time, but I meant games. Lol and you call me a moron.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Lol I'm not confused. And lol I did not think you were talking about playing time moron. And I don't have to answer to some 14 year olds question. Nor do I have to explain anything to you. You can think I meant playing time all you want but thats not what I meant.
trunks06 2 years ago
"if he had the team Kobe has, he would get into the finals as well" So Kobe is an average player, but yet Tmac can do the same things with the same team, and yet Tmac is a better player? Haha this "argument" is pure comedy. To state that Kobe is an average player is as idiotic as your love for Tracy. Why would so many analyst and fans and coaches say that Kobe is the best in the league if he's just an average player?
K24Productions 2 years ago
Yup. If T-Mac had all of those all stars and productive players to play with and all that depth, he would lead a teams to the finals too. Meaning, moron, anyone could thrive with the lakers depth. Its the players around Kobe. Its not saying Kobe is better. If Kobe was left alone, we'd all know what he'd do. Its funny reading ur homo love for Kobe saying this such as,
trunks06 2 years ago
Why Kobe? Why not say Tmac or LeBron or even an equally average player like OJ Mayo? What makes people compare Kobe to MJ so frequently... because obviously there must be something there that shows resemblances or that is better than other players? Or else, why bother? Why would I be defending Kobe from degrading remarks if he was only an average player?
K24Productions 2 years ago
Because people are on his nuts too much. the only thing thats somewhat close to MJ that Kobe has is scoring. Thats it. because its all he knows how to do. everything else its not even close. Wade and LeBron are the closest thing to MJ. Even T-Mac has skills closer to MJ the Kobe does out side of scoring.
trunks06 2 years ago
Lol, why is anybody arguing trunks06...this guy obvoiously is an asshole. The lack of actual knowledge he posses make me wonder how old he really is. Kobe averages from 2002-03 round out 30 PPG, 7 RPG, and 6 APG so there's a season he didn't just score.Your logic seems to be that Kobe is a ballhog...so that's the only reason he puts up that number but the reality is, he plays D on great offensive players, can rebound and pass..oh and one of the best shooters in the game. That's a complete player
jeeazy 2 years ago
I'll will just take jeeazy's advice and let you bask in your stupidity.
I'll send you a link to an article/essay that you might find "interesting" ;)
K24Productions 2 years ago
Ok take his advice and bask in your own stupidity. GO and leave thinking Kobe is the best basketball player ever to play the game. Go live in your dreamworld. Maybe when you get older, you will understand.
trunks06 2 years ago
Did I ever say that Kobe is the best to play the game? MJ is the GOAT. Kobe is the best in the NBA, right now. You DID think that i was talking about playing time, or else you wouldn't have answered with this:
"He barely plays? But yet the guy scores 20+, 5+ and 5+ a game."
That is reffering to playing time. Regardless of my age, you still should answer my questions, it proves that you have no answer because you're bringing up my age as an excuse.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Ummm no kid. shows how much of a moron you are. What YOU truly meant is that he barely trys on the court. And yet he manages to score 20 5 and 5. And for your questions because it doesn't prove crap. I've said things about Kobe over and over again. I don't need to explain myself again to a 14 year old. And about Kobe being the best in the nba. He is not the best. Its fans and analysts like you who make him seem that way. He is overhyped. Right now its a tie between LeBron and Wade.
trunks06 2 years ago
Yea he passes when he wants to. He can pass but doesn't. Look at his in consistent stats this season outside of scoring. The guy is no complete player
trunks06 2 years ago
Lol haha, you're telling me what i meant? And you're calling me a moron! I know what i meant, don't tell me that i meant something different you ignorant fuck. You WILL answer my questions because if you don't, it will just show that i'm right. My age didn't seem to concern your judgment before so shut the fuck up and sotp making excuses you weak excuse for a human.
K24Productions 2 years ago
I WILL not answer crap. Not answering you will not make it seem like your right, it will make you look like a dimwitt. Non Laker fans/Kobe fans will laugh at you because of your stupidity and homoerotic love for Kobe. Who cares if I'm a weak excuse for a human being? If I'm that then your a weak excuse for basketball fan. Saying Kobe is the best? Why don't we elect the leader of Al-Qaida to be the next president?
trunks06 2 years ago
Lol haha, so you failing to answer my quesiton make me look like a dimwitt? "jeeazy" agreed with me, but i don't see anyoe agreein with you, oh wait... now i'm going to get your 5 other accounts sending me messages saying Kobe sucks. Lol you could elect the leader of Al-Qaida, but then you'd be re-electing Bush.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Yup. Instead of correcting you, I can make you look like you know everything and look stupid. And as for anyone not agreeing with me. Not yet. 5 other accounts. hahahaha 5 other accounts? You sound paranoid and scared. hahahahahhaha
trunks06 2 years ago
Haha, well i don't look stupid do I? Why would i be paranoid? Paranoid, of someone disagreeing with me over the internet on an opinion? Wow you ARE sad...
K24Productions 2 years ago
Really? I'm sad? Because a 14 year old says so? Wow, your mind has some growing to do? Anywho, thats why Kobe is NOT going back to the finals this year.
trunks06 2 years ago
Yes my mind DOES have some growing to do, after all i'm only 14... but it's a shame your mind is about to stop its "growing" and yet you haven't matued much... You're going to eat your words. Now i'm not going to say who's going to go to the finals or not, because i'm no prophet...
K24Productions 2 years ago
hahahaaha Who cares what you say about me because nothing a 14 year old says about another is true. Especially if you don't know me. And the point is, Kobe is not the best player in the NBA. So please kid stick to the subject please.
trunks06 2 years ago
Haha, you're telling me to stick to the subject? Youre the one who keeps saying that Im a 14 year old and that my opinion has no validity. I believe that that is off topic, don't you? I was on topic... I asked you a question that had to do with the topic, but you didn't answer it just because Im 14 years old, thats sad... But don't worry, I don't feel poorly of you, after all I asked a difficult question for you to answer, didn't I?
K24Productions 2 years ago
Or else you would have answered it, instead of coming up with a lame excuse...
K24Productions 2 years ago
Really? Really? I've told you about Kobe this whole time. If you don't get how I felt about Kobe which I explained this whole time, then I feel sorry for you. Dummy. Gosh whats wrong with you Kobe fans. Like I said, on to the subject!
trunks06 2 years ago
Lol that just proves you had no point. I'm still waiting for my answer. You're the one who's making lame excuses and ignoring my questions. go ahead answer it, because right now... You're off subject.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Not really, seems ur slow or something. I told you what I thought of Kobe over a million times and all your saying is that you feel sorry for me and that I'm a sorry excuse. So?! The point is is that Kobe will not go into the finals and he is not the best player in the nba. LeBron and Wade are tied in that category. Do not play mind games with me.
trunks06 2 years ago
Wow you MUST be dumber than i thought you were. I wasn't even playing mind games... I'm just waiting for an answer to my question.
K24Productions 2 years ago
No your dumb. I've even told you now and your still stuck on the question gig. Kid I will not answer your question. And that is why Kobe is one overrated bastard.
trunks06 2 years ago
How am i dumb? I'm not the one who misunderstood my comment and who thinks i'm playing mind games on you. So you failing to answer a question makes Kobe ans overated bastard? lol you are a LOT
K24Productions 2 years ago
Lol I told you earlier why I thought Kobe was overrated. Why answer a question that was already asked you dimwitt. If you can't remember what I said then look backwards.
trunks06 2 years ago
dumber than i thought. Why won't you answer my question? atleast answer me that, because i understand if you have no answer for my previous question.
K24Productions 2 years ago
I gave you my answer. Quit being a moron and get off of your question. From our convo
s I've already explained that kid. I will not repeat myself again. If you have no further words to defend your Kobe then don't answer at all anymore
trunks06 2 years ago
"I WILL not answer crap. Not answering you will not make it seem like your right, it will make you look like a dimwitt."
I also looked at the posts after this, and yet i could NOT find a post where you answred my quesiton...
Ho ahead answer it... You've been repeating yourself this whole "convo", (as you would call it) why not once more? ;)
K24Productions 2 years ago
If you cannot find it, your blind. Read every comment. I've already told you what I think? Any more defending against Kobe or will you keep talking about the question?
trunks06 2 years ago
I've looked as much as i want to, and i haven't found your answer to my question. What do i have to defend Kobe from? You accused or attacked him about anything. I've defended him from all your claims and now i'm waiting for your answer... Why not repeat yourself once more? you;ve been doing it the whole time, so why not?
K24Productions 2 years ago
You must be blind or have some sort of comprehending disorder or something. And you didn't defend him from everything. From me talking about Kobe, somehow it went to me and when I shot that that down, it went to your "question". I won't repeat myself again.
trunks06 2 years ago
Wow one of your mothers must have dropped you when you were a child because you can't be this dumb and still be considered a human... You never answered my question, and i defended Kobe from most of your lame attacks. You know what, i have a life, and i'm going to use it, so don't reply back.
K24Productions 2 years ago
hahahahahahahahaha Talk about my attacks are lame. You stole that insult from a TV show lol. All your doing is making personal insults. The same type of insults at that. So if you had a life in the first place, you wouldn't respond at all. Nerd.
trunks06 2 years ago
Haha, a '21' year old called a 14 year old a 'nerd' over the internet. Really, is that from a tv show? I guess i wouldn't know that, after all i don't spend my time watching tv and arguing to other people over the internet. So yes, your attacks are lame. If you have nothing else to say about Kobe, then why are you still arguing. If i never proved you wrong in anything then you would still be on the subject, but you're not.
K24Productions 2 years ago 19
Not really. you shifted the arguement kid. You started personally attacking me. Don't blame me for something you did. How do you know I spend all my time watching to and over the internet. And no thats not from a TV show, thats what you're acting like. If you have nothing to say about Kobe, you don't reply. Because after all T-Mac>Kobe!
trunks06 2 years ago
Did i say you watch tv and are on internet all the time? No, i did not. Learn to comprehend sentences like you once told me. If you have nothing to say or have no proof to back up your theory of "T-Mac>Kobe!" then don't reply. So i'll just leave you to your derranged thoughts... Goodnight!
K24Productions 2 years ago
Yup u said it indirectly kid. and Oh but I do. I can show you footage for years that T-Mac is better than Kobe and Kobe cannot handle him when he is healthy. its not deranged, its the truth. Its sad you blind kobe fans will never see it.
trunks06 2 years ago
Yes i did say it indirectyl, but how do you know i was talking abojut you? Is it because it's true, and you're just being paranoid? See here's were the mind games begin, not before. You're right, i will never seen that Tmac is better than Kobe and millions of others will never see the 'truth' either, so i'll go back to my life...
K24Productions 2 years ago
Ummm no not true at all kid. Oh but some have. Most won't sadly such as yourself. Not really cuz your still reolying....
trunks06 2 years ago
cant handle him? man ive seen kobe swat mcgrady's shit at least 5 times over the years. i dont know what u mean by that but kobe can definitely handle t-mac defensively.
rfoster14 2 years ago
the truth is t mac will never be healthy
so get the whole tmac kobe shit out yalls head
lmfao
when t mac plays a full season
avgs about 30 a game and doesnt miss 30-75% of a season
ill pay attention to his burt out ass
same with his cousin vince carter,even tho i love em been watchin em since93 -94
they have had better days physically
RealDeal336 2 years ago
@RealDeal336 T-Mac will be healthy. Your lucky the rockets are holding him back. When he gets traded to another team and get playing time. The league is over. Including your precious Kobe. Just watch So like snoop dogg says. "So just chill till the next episode.."
trunks06 2 years ago
@K24Productions who are you talking to
demonrok122393 4 months ago
And by the way, just because I am telling the truth, makes me a different age? Think i'm 3, 5 20, 50 or 100. The point is, is that the guy ballhogs and has an all star team to hide behind.
trunks06 2 years ago
Kobe took a team fool of scrubs to the playoffs by himself. Put Tmac in that situation an you would NOT get the same results. Kobe's a bigger teammate and leader than Tmac. Lol Kobe's the most feared player in the league. He attracts the most defenders in the league and he still manages to put up his numbers. Lol what are you doing with Tmac.
K24Productions 2 years ago
No he's not. T-Mac really is. Even Kobe has a hard time guarding a healthy T-Mac. T-Mac has the same ability to do so too.
trunks06 2 years ago
actually its just cus kobe can score like MJ. But MJ won tons of Defensive MVP awards which Kobe hasn't even been in the running for. and their fadeaway jumpshot looks similar and they can both jump incredibly high.
cshsfootball 2 years ago
Scoring and ballhogging. I am force-feeding you the truth, don't like it block me and stay in your own little world kid haahahahaha
trunks06 2 years ago
a hypocrite. No matter how much you don't want to admit it. Kobe's a ballhog. By the way, wait until T-Mac gets back. Can't wait to see him get revenge on him. Kobe----> Overrated. Just telling you the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts....
trunks06 2 years ago
Which you haven't. No matter what you say or how much you think your so "smart" or how you can "debate"> The facts are this, he is overrated. Theres nothing special about his game. The guys being compared to MJ and Kobes game is nowhere near. He is a ballhog. His stats other than scoring are random some games he'll have 1 some games he'll have 3 some games he'll have 7. So what if he's a shooting guards. Other top shooting guards in the league average over 5-6 assists
trunks06 2 years ago
and Kobe can't he's a ballhog. His assists are as random as the mario kart weapon box, you never know what ur going to get. All he does consistently is shoot, shoot, and shoot. He is not an all around player. He can shoot and defend a little and thats it. All this defending of Kobe just proves your mind-controlled by the media. You like whatever they say you like. I alike with others see the truth. Your head is so far up Kobe's rear, that you can't even see the truth. Whether I'm immature, 21
trunks06 2 years ago
media hypes up lebron waaaaay more than kobe. He's the best option the lakers have. When you can score 81 points in a game as the shooting gaurd, you don't have to pass. Plus you can't argue w/ the results, if kobe never passes then he's basically the majority of the lakers scoring which may sound bad but they've been to the finals twice in a row now and won once w/o shaq so whatever he's doing is working and if, as you say, he's doing it by himself it just further proves how good he is.
spadetiger 2 years ago
I'll post my comment to you in a private message. No need to embarrass you in front of everyone else.
K24Productions 2 years ago
I don't care what you say and think of me, especially from a 14 year old shrimp. And as for me being immature and an idiot, what does that have to do with the topic? Trying to get me to stop. Hell no, hes an overrated bastard. Other Kobe fans agree that he is overrated. LeBron and D-Wade does some of the same things he does and gets no credit for it. What I have proved as a fact, (which other fans see), you just set aside as an opinion in your mind. And you also think you "embarrased" me...
trunks06 2 years ago
Kobe is an overrated piece of junk! Everyone does what he does and he gets a pat on the back.... omg
trunks06 2 years ago
Yeh i totally agree, everyone scores 81 points in a game, 62 points in 3 quarters, makes 12 threes in a game, sets a record for 61 points at MSG, leads a consecutive bronze winning olympic team to its first gold, outscores a team in just 3 quarters, scores 45+ points in 4 consecutive games, averages 43.4 PPG for a month, sets a franchise record for the most 40-point games in a season (27), averages 35.4 PPG in a season, becomes the oyungest player to score 20,000 points.
K24Productions 2 years ago
everything you just said=Ballhog! All you're talking about is points. Ballhog. Thanks for proving that for me.
trunks06 2 years ago
scores 50+ points for 4 consecutive games, and has 10 50 point games in a season. Good night, clearly Kobe deserves a bigger pat on the back than any other player in the NBA, but yet he doesn't get it, because people like you (idiots) seem to think he hasn't earnt any respect. Just check his resume.
K24Productions 2 years ago
He doesn't deserve respect. He ballhogs and doesn't really trust his teammates. He's just now starting to learn to really play with them. He cried about leaving a team that he couldn't lead. And when the lakers give pau gasol away, he becomes the best. I don't get how you media slaves think. The guy is a selfish ballhog and gets a pat on the back. And when people get better stats, you create excuses for him and people eat it up
trunks06 2 years ago
He doesn't deserve respect because he hasn't worked hard for everything. Everything was just given to him! Jordan, he worked hard for everything. Kobe was given free players, refs give him calls all the time, catches attitude with players, and fans and analysts making his plays look like the best basketball moves ever done and all he does is do what everyone else can do. He doesn't deserve crap because he's nothing but a ball hog. He needs to drop the nba and go to and1
trunks06 2 years ago
Lol you're letting your Jealousy and hatred get to your head. Kobe's done much more than any of us can imagine. Kobe wakes up at 5 every morning and runs for about an hour. He then hits the gym for two hours, and then hits 3000+ shots. If that isn't hard work then what is? Sitting behind a computer judging a man who you don't know, and have never worked as hard as before?
K24Productions 2 years ago
I'm not jealous of Kobe he's nothing to be jealous about. Your letting the media get to your head. He is given everything and how do you know? You don't know me KID. Ok he works hard in practice. And he scores on the court but like I keep saying everyone keeps overhyping the dude. Nothing he does is amazing. Nothing.
trunks06 2 years ago
Kobe has one of the best work ethics in the league. Kobe earned his spot on the "3 peat" team. The Lakers gave up their starting centre for him, a 17 year old. When (recently) has Kobe "caught" an attitude with players/analyst? LeBron gets more Hype than Kobe for your information. And Michael Jordan had the same thing for him. The NBA turned him into an international name. They were in a recession and needed a superstar to lift them out of it.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Ok but how does that translate on the court scoring high and rarely doing much else? LeBron is not overhyped. You can clearly see he does it all on the court. what Kobe does is average on a superstar level.Michael Jordan is not overhyped either. You clearly saw all the things he done. Yea the NBA was in a recession but he was not overhyped, he was that good. And plus you were nothing but a mere kid then. you know nothing.
trunks06 2 years ago
What do you think they are doing with LeBron these days? The man makes a tomahawk dunk and he gets compared to Kobe and Jordan. Lol Kobe is a SHOOTING guard, and one of the best at it. So of course he's going to have SHOOTING records. Putting the weight of a team on your shoulders and leading them to the playoffs is not "ballhogging", its called great leadership.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Kobe is a ballhog. He is not a great leader. A capable one of ballhogging but is not a great leader. He can only do one thing well consistently, score. Score and thats it. Other stats are random, you don't know what ur going to get from him. He plays decent defense. If your kobes teammate you pray he passes the ball. A person with great leadership is LeBron he knows when to pass, when to score, and plays defense very well. If you think all LeBron does is dunk, you need to watch more of his game
trunks06 2 years ago
If Wade or Tmac does it, I GUARRANTEE you that you would be saying that they're the best because they can lead a team, so shut up you hypocrite. Don't blame Kobe for any ill-gotten respect or any hype that is pointed towards him (and I dont mean blame every analyst/Kobe fan/ref). Blame the analysts, fans or Refs who do so and most importantly blame the NBA.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Well if T-Mac or Wade can lead they're team to championships and seeing what they can do every night, I would consider them the best. They're great leaders too that knows when to score and when to pass. Your the hypocrite. Its clear your a strict Kobe fan when you say things like "LeBron does a tomahawk dunk and gets compared to Kobe and LeBron" When he does a whole lot more. I and the rest of NBA fans see that Kobe has things given to him and haven't worked much for anything at all
trunks06 2 years ago
You know what... Fuck you! I really don't care anymore. Just go back to sucking on Tmac's tit. I have no time to argue with a dumbass over the internet. YOu're just not worht my time, i have al if outside of the internet, and i don't use it to persuade others that a successful athlete who has worked WAY harder than i have in my life, gets things he doesn't deserve.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Sucking on T-Mac's tit... Isn't that what your doing to Kobe's nipple? lol! Reallly dude..... Your the dummy, you say things like LeBron does a tomahawk and gets compared Kobe and MJ hahahahahahaahaha talk about me being dumb, that statement you said yourself proves your a pure imbecile hahaha He hasn't worked hard for nothing. The only thing the guy works on is his scoring. Thats it and its all he'll ever be known for.
trunks06 2 years ago
By the way, I never suck on anyones nipple, I just know true talent. You, You suck on nipples and suck them hard. You say things like Kobe has worked very hard when he hasn;t. You sound like Kobe's baby mother or something. His little side girlfriend. Really dude....you really need to take off the blindfold and get exposed to the truth
trunks06 2 years ago
Lol you need to get that nipple out of your mouth and see the truth. While you're at it, I heard Tracy wants his dick back. LOL you call me an imbecile but yet you type this: "talk about me being dumb". Kobe wakes up at 5 every morning and goes to the track and runs for an hour (which is already probably more than what you do in a day) and then he hits the gym for two hours. And then after the gym he's on the court practising. He shoots 3000+ shots day.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Who got who's nipple in who's mouth. Not I. I see talent. And Kobe, he's average. T-Mac is better than him and if he had the team Kobe has, he would get into the finals as well. Hell, if T-Mac was given what Kobe has, he would be in the finals. I don't care about his work regimen. The point is that he's an average player, overhyped by FANS that REALLY suck cock like yourself.
trunks06 2 years ago
He has so many more accomplishments than you, Tmac and LeBron combined. Lol why do even support Tmac. He hardly plays. If I was a fan of his, I would get frustrated and start bashing other players who are better than him... on no, wait... never mind...
K24Productions 2 years ago
He barely plays? But yet the guy scores 20+, 5+ and 5+ a game. If he does that when barely trying, then hes better than Kobe. He can ballhog like Kobe does and do it better than him. But he understand the concept of playing as a TEAM. T-Mac is real talent thats why I go for him. He's had his injury plagued season, but he will be back next year. Isn't that what your doing. Defending Kobe and saying false things about T-Mac knowing if T-Mac was healthy, that he'll open up a can of ButtWhoop on 24
trunks06 2 years ago
To them it's a business, so of course they are going to make their stars look good. Kobe doesn't ask for more respect than he deserves. He just goes out there and wins like he is paid for.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Garbage for Gasol and Ariza Got the Lakers into the Finals back to back years and won 1 of those 2.
Thanks to Mitch.
and ofcourse, Kobe....
RobertCast88 2 years ago
Just look at Kobe's numbers in the Playoffs during the Lakers Championship run.
2000 : 21.1ppg, 4.4rpb, 4.5 apg
2001 : 29.4ppg, 7.3rpg , 6.1apg
2002 : 26.6ppg, 5.8rpg, 4.6apg
It is because of today's sports media that individual performances in sports are given so much importance. Winning as a team is what makes great players. And Kobe Bryant has done that 4 times (Finals MVP in the latter), whether you like to accept it or not.
prospect42191 2 years ago 3
...akward silence after he said that. its not like he said "i like koala penis in my mouth"
bryandeezy 2 years ago 4
your prayers were answered kobe. the season after this somehow the lakers got gasol (i guess memphis saw something in kwame) reached the finals and now they won a championship. lebron should have done this after game 6 this yr.
Roadrunnerz45 2 years ago
no they were doing it for what pistons did even though allen iverson seemed like an appealing player at the time it was just to save money i think
imhood37 2 years ago
Doesnt matter, like kobe said, the lakers of 2000-2002 wouldnt have won the championships without kobe, they wouldnt have won em without horry, not even without phil jackson. each laker brought their qualities to the team. take one out and they wouldnt of won, forget shaq.
bballprofessor23 2 years ago 2
he is mad
basketbal001 2 years ago
than kobe. It seems you need to think. I'll help you do it. Take shaq off of the lakers and what do you have? The Lakers of 05 and 06. Like I said before. Just think about it.
trunks06 2 years ago
lol ive watched t mac hes alribght but nothing like kobe
Deebenator15 2 years ago
lol i didnt come on here to spell right and stuff i came on here to say t-mac sucks lol. rockets are doing way better without em and hes never done anything great really hes just an average player
Deebenator15 2 years ago
Nah man you must not have watched any of t-macs games when t-macs healthy he's just as good as Kobe.
fuckeverybody93 2 years ago
I know he is. this guy is just hating on T-Mac. If T-Mac had shaq, he'd have some rings by now. T-Mac is on par if not a bit better than Kobe.
trunks06 2 years ago
lecrab sucks kobes dick
headliner9 2 years ago
Lebron even said Kobe is better then him, Kobe has more rings then Wade and lebron put together, and if u say Kobe only got his rings because of Shaq then u are wroung, Kobe got them WITH Shaq. Not to mention Lebron James has yet to make a clutch shot. Do u even watch basketball trunks06?
beeffy123 2 years ago 2
Beefy get a clue. Do you watch basketball. When watching a national televised game how many times do the announcers question all the calls the Lakers get? Everyone knows its rigged for the Lakers because of the ratings.
Second how many rings does Horry have? 6 or 7, does that make him better then MJ.
Ohh and dont even try comparing Kobe to MJ all I have to do is site todays game and all the leads the Lakers blew instead of building on like MJ would have.
limitedplay 2 years ago
oh don't try to be technical. he got them becaause of sahqs dominance. you take shaq away at around that time and you got yourself the lakers in 06 and 07. Of course i watch basketball beefy, how else would I be able to argue with you? Think man. I tell you abouty these laker fans
trunks06 2 years ago
sure shaq was an inside presence every team needs that but kobe carried them and made all the clutch shots for them
Deebenator15 2 years ago
Every keeps saying Shaq led them and without him they would have won, but Kobe was important too. Only reason why people can say that is when shaq went to Miami they won a championship, but what did they have? A good ass shooting guard ( Dwade) . Come on it doesn't matter how dominate a player is the team has to be good to win a championship. Just look at Lebron and Cleveland, he's very dominate yet his team almost got swept by the magics. Think.
fuckeverybody93 2 years ago
If Kobe was left alone, then there would've been no title. It was shaq that won the finals mvps. It was shaq that was blocking shots. It was shaq that was dunking on every center in sight. Kobe had some high scoring games and clutch performances, but at the end of the day, if you knew Shaq had a bad game. Most likely the team was in for a long game. So thats why everyones saying, no shaq, no championship. In Miami was a different story. Shaq didn't have to do much. D-wade was that much better
trunks06 2 years ago
The Lakers wouldn't have even made it to the finals without Kobe Bryant during Shaq's stint with the Lakers. He was as valuable to Lakers as Shaq. People need to stop with that nonsense about winning by "yourself". Every championship team in the past 30 years has had at least 2 all-stars or future Hall of Famers.
prospect42191 2 years ago
Get off of Kobes Nutsack. shaq in his prime was dominant and if you would have replaced him with another decent sg at that time, let6s say allen iverson, tracy mcgrady or vince carter, they would've still won titles. Let shaq leave at the time and let ballhogging kobe have the reigns and what do you get? The 05-06, 06-07 season. It took donations from other teams for him to win titles..... Without that he wouldn't even get past the second round. Think realistic here....
trunks06 2 years ago
Lol you're "argument" is quite hilarious. Not only did Shaq leave. Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, Rick Fox, Brian Shaw and Tracy Murray left, all 10+ year veterans (minus Derrick). Phill Jackson also left (the greatest coach in NBA history) who replaced these players you ask? Sasha Vujacic, Jordan Farmar, Smush Parker, Maurice Evans, Luke Walton, Brian Cook, Ronny Turiaf, Chris Mihm, Andrew Bynum and last but not least Kwame Brown.
K24Productions 2 years ago
None of these players had more than 5 years of experience (minus Mihm who had 6) Most of them were rookies. So you can understand why the Lakers plummeted. The Lakers made some smart, overdue trades and acquired Gasol, Fisher etc. Think realistic here...
K24Productions 2 years ago
Oh come on. Stop it with the excuses. All you Kobe fans do is make excuses. The realstic fact is that He's not a good leader. and It took donations, (Gasol) to get them where they are today. The trades were not smart. The GM just gave Gasol away to a team the Gm admired. Its wack! I'm thinking realistic, because if you take all those all star calibur players away and swap them with mediocre players, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
trunks06 2 years ago
Im using excuses am I? I gave you real facts, (and you people claim that we ignore the facts, lol) and all you could respond with was if Lakers did this, if Kobe ... Where are the facts in if? I guarantee you, that if a GM gave away an all-star calibre player away just because he admired the GM of another team, he would be fired immediately. Lakers made smart trades to aquire Gasol. They traded Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, Aaron McKie and
haloholik 2 years ago
And that was a donation. Because that GM clearly could have gotten way better for Gasol
trunks06 2 years ago
Lol Kobe averaged 4.9 assists per game this year. The League Average was 3.0 APG. Lol does that mean that if Kobe *rarely* passes than the whole league all pass once in a blue mean as an average? I never knew *facts* were excuses. Lol i just explained in an essay as to how Kobe is a leader, obviously you cannot converse in an orderly manner. You're 21? Lol you must be feeling embarrassed, Im only 14.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Dude Kobe only passes when he wants to. Its random. Obviously you have so much of a mancrush on Kobe that you cannot see. Kobe is overrated. Only kids like you and the media make him like he's a god. He is not a God. Nothings fascinating about him. One player whos better than Kobe, D-Wade. Does the same stuff he does and truly does it all. He doesn't passes when he only feels generous. And Theres about 2 others that is better than him. And dude, why should I feel embarrased when you haven't
trunks06 2 years ago
even proved anything. Kobe's assist is 4.9 wow big freakin woop. LeBron averages, 6. D-Wade averages 7. As a player who supposedly have an all around game, he's supposed to be high in that stat also, which isn't that great. Its average.
trunks06 2 years ago
two first round picks in 08 and 2010 and also gave Memphis the rights to Marc Gasol. How exactly is Kobe not a leader? Since you dont give me any facts, I will prove you wrong WITH facts (wow isnt that surprising for a Laker fan?) Kobe is the first to encourage his teammates, he is the first to tap them on the shoulder, hes the first to dictate what happens on the court, and he is the one who leads the team huddle.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblahblah excuses naexcuses excuses. He is the one that ballhogs also and passes when he feels generous and thats rare. Thats a fact also. He is a ballhog he's no leader
trunks06 2 years ago