Classic High Intensity Training Over Head Press

[sz42781]

High reps can be hit, more sets can be hit,more frequent workouts can be hit,less rest between sets can be hit. These are all Intensity factors, you can increase them as much as you want. Everyone thinks there going to do the stereotypical "H.I.T" workout and get all kinds of results. Bullshit, Heavey weight, low/slow reps? Its power lifting you will get strong thats it.

[exarchives]

There is no clear definition of such, if we decide to add action - it is a thing we do in the moment. Nothing is written in stone.

[0991deano]

Proper joker since when do your drop the weight when doing HIT.Its not a dropset

[hunkydaboyz]

Boys to many forced reps and negatives , you were done about 6 reps ago, thats when you needed to end it

[hunkydaboyz]

was told not to drop the weight after complete failure

[caliboy40]

1)this is not classic, According to Mike Mentzer(originator of HIT), the cadence should be at about 6 sec up and 6 sec. down. Forced reps, and srop down sets are not only a waste of energy, but further hurting the muscle that's being worked. it should be 1-2 warm up set and 1 FINAL set. you should aim for about 4-6...good job but fail at the same time.

[Chochili7]

I've been training for sports all my life. Since doing H.I.T. my gains have been out of this world I've now started body domination stuff it's crazy I'm 35 with a reconstructed shoulder bad knees but I'm Puhing more ad with control than I was when I was playing rugby 15yrs ago for New Zealand 7's... Mean. I'm now an MMA, Muay Thai, Boxing and Grappling only because I got fit again through H.I.T.

[nihadkolubara]

nice motivation!

[Orgazm011]

breath man

[rmsalyer2]

anyone who says machines arent as hard on your body as a free weight squat has never trained on a medx avenger..

[rlacjfdn]

i know how that feels

[SR4LosersIsMYBITCH]

Why did this video remind me of like a nature show? Like the way the guys in the background were narrating lol

[exarchives]

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[gab9876]

you shouldn't always train like this. Neural adaption and stuff is important to think about, and these guys can't claim to have the perfect exercises if they only do these kinds of exercises.

[thegarbageman21]

My question is when it comes to HIT is it better to dropset and burn out until complete muscle failure or only lift heavy to momentary?

[likasombodie]

@thegarbageman21 drop set go around 60-70% of the weight you was using and repeat the set doing forced rep at the end. Repeat again by stripping weight to about 60-70% and go to complete failure. This way you only need to do that exercise just once as your muscles will be truly fatigued.

[JAShalvey]

He was allowed too much rest. He did not make any deeper inroads with his "second set". A better method is to start the set with two of three pins placed in the weight stack and strip 40-50 pounds off the stack (a little noisy but if the pin is pulled at the low position, the plates don't have far to fall). The exercise is then "continuous" with no chance for recovery. When failure is reached, it will be with a lighter weight meaning more of the available strength has been recruited and taxed.

[hollayo666]

nice purple shirt ya fuckin pussy

[mavincenzo]

it's good...

[TryhardGetit]

Hey Guys,

i have no doubt, that HIT is effective, but i talso think that this extra slow movements are not the best. Sure you should concentrate on the negative and go beyond failure. But i think that it's better to do the positive as fast and explosive as you can and slow down 3-5 seconds. Like dorian yates didi it.

[hollayo666]

yeah dorian wasnt a total homo thats the difference

[koreanmass]

he is dipping too low on the negative

[mrwilliamwonder]

This is a very good example of good HIT training. I'd have lowered the weight further when he moved the pin and pumped out about 10 full reps with no or little help. Definitely the right idea.

I'm losing fat and gaining muscle as is my goal at this time. I do about 30-35 minute workouts 5-6 days a week with 25 of those minutes being cardio leg work. 5 minutes of lifting like this 6 days a week as great for growth. It's all about recovery. RECOVERY is be the name of the sport.

[koreanmass]

your lifting for 5 minutes? Could you explain to me what HIT is all about.

[sphmusak]

AMEN!!! 99.9% of the people training in gyms today have no idea how effective HIT is..... your regimen is proof of how well it works I'm sure.

[mrwilliamwonder]

Like at the gym today. I get so peeved by the 90% of people that just stand around or read while working out!... NO INTENSITY!I do 7-10 sets a day now for upper body. Probably takes 5-10 minutes. But I work hard and work the muscle. It's all about intensity and working the muscle. I also do cardio every workout before lifting so I am warm, sweaty and ready for intensity.

[sphmusak]

Awesome, keep up the good work and best of luck in your development and refinement.

[RealLifeIZ]

lol

[hollayo666]

thanks for the life story bud

[InnerCityMuscle]

@mrwilliamwonder lol not everyone is the same. each person is looking or has different intentions than you do.

[ripwarn]

@sphmusak What is HIT?

[ripwarn]

@sphmusak High Intensity training?

[nokkiecookie90]

That's how a workout's gotta be done.

Al-hamdu-lilah(Praise God).

[speedfreak18ish]

it should take 5 seconds to lower the weight becasue of the emphasis bases on negative reps , 2 seconds to push back up. his form is spot on!

[faridjabba]

why seems to be sufering that mcuh whis souch a prowerful body ?

[CrazeeJZ]

Because it's an endurance set. Just like how you suffer more running 1 mile fast than sprinting a 100 meters, but the sprint is better for size.

[ed257]

Two comments:

1) this guy has excellent genetics for building strength and mass. He's a mesomorph with long muscle bellies. He would probably make good progress with any decent training system. I wonder how long he's been doing advanced HIT training and what results he's gotten.

2) 2.5 minutes is a very long set. Studies have shown that TUL of 45-90 secs is best. Most of us would not build much muscle with sets 150 secs long.

[99Sorc]

i dont understand why his buddy helps him so much at the end. the point of HIT is to push YOUR muscles to failure. what you did was ahcieved failure then your buddy helped you do more? doesnt make sense to me.

[grantsinmypants2]

He did something - however slight - that he would not have been able to do alone. He's clearly advanced enough to need forced reps in order to induce growth.

[Akheron88]

What hes doing is simply reducing the weight. It's almost like a drop set. A really good way to get a pump.

[Neil6000]

99Sorc:

You're exactly right - this set was taken way beyond failure. My guess is they did this to show off for the video for there is no way a trainee will recover from this if done on a regular basis.

One forced rep & negative at the end is fine to ensure that true failure was reached but no more than that; not several as in this video.

Working out natural & progressing this way would require an abbreviated routine of only 2 or 3 exercises done once per week or even less to allow recovery.

[xtinebeauparlant]

those forced reps trigger the bodies growth system.

[msmith1845]

I think the idea was to reach negative failure once the trainer reached positive failure. Perhaps on his last + rep he could of held the static & has assisited + for - failure.

[zumanity17]

99Sorc

..the last reps hes getting help because he's concentrating on the negatives..he already reached positive failure on his own.

[joshw4288]

If you don't understand what he is doing here then you clearly have read nothing on High Intensity Training. Go read Arthur Jones Nautilus bulletins, Dr. Wayne Westcotts works or Ellington Darden's HIT books.

Even Mentzers and Dorian yates are decent but not as applicable to the average trainee. John Little also has some unique approaches to the HIT method although I am not sure how well they work as I have no extensively used them.

Has anyone here used John Little's method extensively?

[bknives]

I assume you mean John Little's assertion that holding the contraction in the fully contracted position for 1 - 6 seconds exclusively for maximum muscle fibre stimulation, with that constituting 1 complete rep and the full resolution of the workout for that particular bodypart? I followed that strategy for 5 months, and I achieved some hypertrophy. However I have seen better gains with a Mentzer style 6 rep HIT slow lift, hold, slow descend. Definatelty worth holding the peak contraction though

[cooliq1]

i would press it little slowlier up

[hurryingj]

ok thanks

[hurryingj]

do u think beginners should use 1 set to failure even if they train alone

[25lbdumbells]

Absolutely, give it a shot. Further your knowledge, read HIT with mike mentzer or books written by mr.arthur jones. Also, check out the Colorado Experiment.

[jrdudedj]

i'm so pissed, i work my ass of trying to get in shape and nothing works. And i'm not waisting my money on some stupid diet or exercise machine.

[eliteman43]

Whoops SORRY for the typo

[eliteman43]

Only diluted idiots do just one set per muscle group. It just dosen`t work. Nice video by the way!

Chukchii- I must be a diluted idiot then. I do one set with 120 pound db flyes supersetted with a 330 pound smith incline press followed by a two minute rest 180 pound weighted dips. If you failed on hit training. It is because it was because you were not resting enough to lift VERY HEAVY WEIGHTS. YOU WILL NOT GROW UNTIL YOU ARE BENCHING 300 PLUS AND SQUATTING AT LEAST 500. END OF STORY.......

[Peter9761]

Lol what rubbish...you grow on the way to 300 pounds bench or 500 pounds squats...that is obvious.

To say you don't grow until you can squat 500 tells me you don't train.

[guarani527]

ok this guy obviously knows what he's doing, just look at his physique, but why do these guys primarily use machines?

[HITpadawan]

You dont HAVE to use machines, but many HITTERS prefer them because there are safety issues involved when pushing your body to the limit.

I kid ye not its possible for you to feel lightheaded and even pass out toward the end of a REALLY tough HIT set, now imagine what would happen were you using a barbell at the time?

[ptarleton]

@HITpadawan

But the trouble is you can't push yourself with a machine like you can with a barbell. You cannot replicate the total hell a Squat set of 10 that you don't know you're gonna finish. Many of these machines are also flawed because they simply don't have enough weight on them. Only doing the full stack on a selectorized leg press, chest press, and pulldown will not build a 240lb bodybuilder. But repping 600 for squats, 405 for bench, 700 for deadlifts will build a beast.

[Agui007]

Once the negative control has gone, your delts are done on that exercise.

[GeneticBeast16]

How much weight is on there??

[ketogenesis]

he reminds me of myself .. :/

[mrbelt5150]

ha ha ha no fuck that.. lets go!!!this guy is off the fuckin chain :)

[bknives]

nice video you guys are doing some good training

[tableturns77]

now thats what the fuck im talking about

[HITpadawan]

Agree, and WAAAAAAY too much downward pressure on that infitonic at 1.22, youre supposed to apply just enough so as they must fight while still controlling the weight, not try and wreck the shoulders

[Marct900]

good stuff. But strip sets don't intensify your effort, the merely prolong it.

[Chukchii]

Correct.

[ptarleton]

@Marct900

I like this idea but I think it would be slightly more accurate to say that drop sets do prolong the time spent under a certain intensity. They do not raise the intensity. Think of intensity not as a measure of effort, exertion, or mental stress. Think of intensity in terms of what the body is physically capable of. 100% intensity is a max effort - the most weight you can lift. You can still feel like you've gone to hell and back using 70% intensity over a long, hard set.

[jeremysoon2b19]

no, fuck that lets go. lol classic, now THAT is muscle failure

[JohnV474]

Great video! I've been through these types of workouts and they are very hard work. The trainee did a great job of pushing and pushing. I was glad to see that he kept breathing, with a few exceptions. Looks like he is in great shape, also, I might add.

[ThrowItDown4Sho]

Ur suppose to do only one set of these per each major muscle group.

[Chukchii]

Only diluted idiots do just one set per muscle group. It just dosen`t work. Nice video by the way!

[Chukchii]

Only diluted people do just one set per muscle group. It just don`t work. Nice video by the way!

[Chukchii]

Only diluted people do just one set per bodypart. Nice video by the way!

[jpstewy]

so that is considered 'high intensity' im guessing you need a partner to help you get the weigh up when you fail? how many sets of these do you do?

[reddog84]

Now thats true muscle failure. Your lucky to have someone help you.

[FrozenExplosion]

hang in their big guy, beutiful, lets go, zone in their, this my world , oh yeah, take some air, take some air, prestretch i like that...........