Tell that motherfucker to eat dick. For once, I like to see an American president tell the Israeli prime minister to eat dick when they pull bullshit like this.
If an American President told an Israeli Prime Minister to eat dick, half of his Party's funding (if he's a Dem) or one third (if he's a Repub) would disappear, and the media would also swing to oppose him wholeheartedly and overnight. He would be vilified. You could also expect acts of terrorism, sabotage and assassination by Mossad, who have thoroughly infliltrated our defense and intelligence agencies.
George HW Bush was a one-term president because he stood up to the Israel - the Israe lobby indeed has tons of power in the US - they freely admit it and simply say that's how it should be - it's worthwhile being aware of that fact
You know Obama can´t do shit when it comes about isreal. Isreal dictate what the fucking white house has to say, congress, every god damn thing from US Foreign policy. Obama already kissed Aipac´s ass, so the issue about Isreal and Palis, will just remain as USUAL
I wish they would do some reporting on what settlements do to the everyday lives of Palestinians. From having your house literally taken over and occupied by people who remove your furniture and are guarded by soldiers, to needing to having cages erected around your house so that less of the rocks and feces your new settler "neighbors" through at you can get through... let's talk about what this issue really means instead of just the effect on American politics.
you know I never heard about the white house being angry with other countries that refuse to make concessions while negotiating. Sudan anyone ? Iran ? North Korea ?
Legion, I understand with your name that you come into this issue predisposed toward one side. Your comments even indicate as such. However, can you not understand that without concessions, there will be no peace for Israel?
One of these days, try putting yourself in the shoes of a Palestinian whose mother had a house in what is now called Israel, that now is being lived in by someone else. Try being a person who has a deed to property that you can not claim.
despite the name I'm not Jewish, its a nod to my Vinci background. I understand Israel does need to make concessions, I just took issue the white house being angry.
I know how it feels to have property I can't claim, but my family lived on. My family is from St Vincent and we had family land that was taken away when my family was forced to leave after my grandfathers premature death. Its how the world works, I live with it.
I do not agree with the tactics that suicide bombers and the like use to bring that message to the world, but I do understand the rage they must feel over it and the way they are treated today by Israeli forces in the West Bank and Gaza Strip at checkpoints.
It is a circular problem feeding on itself, and unless some brave people on both sides make moves without waiting for the other to do it first, nothing will be solved and people on both sides will continue to die.
Its not like I'm for war. far from it, and I agree that concessions and deals will have to be made. I simply noticed poor use of the english language and chose to highlight it.
Well, don't you think that the 2005 total evacuation of the Gaza strip from Israeli settlements & military was a brave move by Israel, giving a chance to the Palestinians to show they can govern & prove they are worthy of trust?
no - Israel should have negotiated withdrawal to empowered the PLO instead of just pulling back but keeping control of borders, airspace and coast, making it an open air concentration camp - tell anyone (I mean not a politician) in Israel it was a brave move and they'll laugh at your naivety - Israel left because it was an expensive pain in the ass to stay - they did it for their own selfish reasons, not to give the Palestinians a chance to prove themselves - please!
nuts - of course they destroyed everything that reminded them of the armies that oppressed and murdered them - like anyone, including you, would have - being from Israel does not make you an expert on what's right, or guarantee a clear perspective - being from Israel might mean you want the Palestinians thrown out at gun point and the Temple rebuilt on the Mount - sorry - not buying your bullet points that most Israelis would snicker at -
No sir, no one burnt mosques in Israel (look at a photo of Tel-Aviv, along the shore stands a big mosque.
The green houses were not military, they belonged to the settlers & the palstinians worked there, made money & could do much more if they were kept (You answer as irrational as they do).
I never said I am an expert on any thing...I have no interest in throwing anybody at gun point anywhere...
and regarding the temple mount...I am a secular, liberal, center wind "zealot" & you jumping to conclusions just shows you are just another biased bigot. Sorry to "put it" straight in your face but this is the reality!
you missed my point you said "(I am from Israel & you are not) so I know what I am saying" as if being from Israel automatically makes you an objective oberver of the "Truth" - my point is that being from Israel doesn't prove a thing regarding your reliability as anews source -
true, but they are your ally, and allies usually do give money to one another, Cuba and the soviets, Cuba and Venezuela, Bolivia and El Salvador, the list goes on. Its not so odd to give money to an ally.
what a load of crap - the US always demands certain concessions in exchange for others from the US - Sudan, N Korea etc all had to make concessions before receiving any from the US - the US and the world is demanding a specific concession from Israel - stop the settelments - and Israel has told the world to suck its dick -
please Sudan hasn't given any meaningful concessions, which is what Iran also did filtering their uranium through Russia, and North Korea hasn't exactly held their end of the bargain up so I don't know what you are trying to prove other than most countries do not negotiate in good faith. why should Israel be any different ? I expect them to be different, better, because I have a religious tie towards them, but why do you when you do not ?
I expect Israel to act differently than our enemies because they are our allies and we give them billions of dollars in military and financial aid and cover their asses at the UN every time they commit war crimes and break international law - their theft of the West Bank and oppression of the Palestinians is an inspiration to US -hating jihadists - I don't expect that to change your mind, but you have to admit those are legitimate reasons to expect better than Netanyahu spitting in our faces
to a degree I understand what you are saying and I do expect better, but given the Us track record for supporting allies, is it any wonder they have little faith in your government or any plan it spearheads ?
that logic cuts both ways - we invaded Iraq partially to move the peace process forward - there was lots of push from Israel, and the message that the road to mid-east peace ran through Baghdad - once we were in Iraq, Israel moved the goal post - now the road runs through Tehran! - If we take out Iran they'll find some other enemy that keeps them from seriously negotiating peace and Palestinian statehood - they will not give up the West Bank until it is taken from them with force
what is the solution then ? Israel gives up its progressive values so America no longer cares and the middle east can embrace it ? Israel abandons the territory it won in 67 ? Palestinians prosecute their own people for errant missile attacks that derail peace objectives ? I don't see any of that happening. who could take the west bank by force other than the US ?
Ahhh, the Iraq invasion caused by Israel...of course - where did I hear it last :-)
Most of Israelis think it was a mistake (and I say it gently) to invade Iraq - so please don't blame Israel for Americas failure.
Regarding taking back the W.B by force....who will do that...who can do that? I think our enemies have realized they can not do it by force (enemy states). The only thing that is left for them is proxy terror groups.
you can find my analysis in the Jerusalem post and thoughout Israel's news media - they can say it, and Eurpoeans can - but I guess we the USA can't without you getting to hint that I'm just plain anti-semitic - nuts to that
The Israeli political establishment was all for it and provided false info re WMD - this was in the Israeli press at the time - when things started to go bad in Iraq they backed off, publically, saying "oh we never really thought it was a good idea" - I didn't say they were the main or only cause, but the Neocon idea that the road to mid-east peace ran through Badhdad was widespread in Israeli political and military circles - or I am allowed to mention that in front of the children?
ha ha ha ha ha ha fucking joke, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
aaaah had to catch my breath. you zodeloni are a loser, and a racist. but here is the newsflash you missed, I'm West Indian not Jewish. That said on behalf of Jews everywhere who also consider what you just said racist, go blow a goat you ass backwards herb. go find some neo nazi KKK buddies to hang with, because you are NOT welcome here.
screw Netanyahu cut off all the Billions to Israel until he's gone
marniespeaks 2 years ago
Tel Aviv has Washington by the balls!
bulluni 2 years ago
When will Israel just take over Gaza and the west bank, and end this stupid stalemate once and for all...? They're going to it anyway.
It;s estimated that by 2015 the arab population (non-Jews) are going to outnumber the Jewish population, in the end everybody will be represented.
Or the Israeli government will be forced to commit ethic cleansing and show there true colors.
Pleblian 2 years ago 2
Tell that motherfucker to eat dick. For once, I like to see an American president tell the Israeli prime minister to eat dick when they pull bullshit like this.
Ed76638 2 years ago 6
@Ed76638 My thoughts exactly
carrierexchange 2 years ago
If an American President told an Israeli Prime Minister to eat dick, half of his Party's funding (if he's a Dem) or one third (if he's a Repub) would disappear, and the media would also swing to oppose him wholeheartedly and overnight. He would be vilified. You could also expect acts of terrorism, sabotage and assassination by Mossad, who have thoroughly infliltrated our defense and intelligence agencies.
SubmarinerAndroid 2 years ago 2
Yeah, politicians criticizing Israel is thought-crime in America. DEMOCRACY + FREEDOM AT WORK :)
asphyxiafeeling 2 years ago
George HW Bush was a one-term president because he stood up to the Israel - the Israe lobby indeed has tons of power in the US - they freely admit it and simply say that's how it should be - it's worthwhile being aware of that fact
davis80smusic 2 years ago
wtf is she talking about?
iknewitalready 2 years ago
David Mitchell > This Mitchell
WKaliberr 2 years ago
Dennis Mitchell > this mitchell. Dennis is actually less of a menace.
KataVideo 2 years ago
You know Obama can´t do shit when it comes about isreal. Isreal dictate what the fucking white house has to say, congress, every god damn thing from US Foreign policy. Obama already kissed Aipac´s ass, so the issue about Isreal and Palis, will just remain as USUAL
Waranle 2 years ago
I wish they would do some reporting on what settlements do to the everyday lives of Palestinians. From having your house literally taken over and occupied by people who remove your furniture and are guarded by soldiers, to needing to having cages erected around your house so that less of the rocks and feces your new settler "neighbors" through at you can get through... let's talk about what this issue really means instead of just the effect on American politics.
safiya52 2 years ago 6
*throw at you
safiya52 2 years ago
you know I never heard about the white house being angry with other countries that refuse to make concessions while negotiating. Sudan anyone ? Iran ? North Korea ?
Politricks is such a dutty game.
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago 2
dutty?
arequipa1 2 years ago
slang, means dirty, said with a Vinci accent
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago
Legion, I understand with your name that you come into this issue predisposed toward one side. Your comments even indicate as such. However, can you not understand that without concessions, there will be no peace for Israel?
One of these days, try putting yourself in the shoes of a Palestinian whose mother had a house in what is now called Israel, that now is being lived in by someone else. Try being a person who has a deed to property that you can not claim.
(cont.)
balanceseeker 2 years ago
despite the name I'm not Jewish, its a nod to my Vinci background. I understand Israel does need to make concessions, I just took issue the white house being angry.
I know how it feels to have property I can't claim, but my family lived on. My family is from St Vincent and we had family land that was taken away when my family was forced to leave after my grandfathers premature death. Its how the world works, I live with it.
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago
(cont.)
I do not agree with the tactics that suicide bombers and the like use to bring that message to the world, but I do understand the rage they must feel over it and the way they are treated today by Israeli forces in the West Bank and Gaza Strip at checkpoints.
It is a circular problem feeding on itself, and unless some brave people on both sides make moves without waiting for the other to do it first, nothing will be solved and people on both sides will continue to die.
balanceseeker 2 years ago
Its not like I'm for war. far from it, and I agree that concessions and deals will have to be made. I simply noticed poor use of the english language and chose to highlight it.
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago
Well, don't you think that the 2005 total evacuation of the Gaza strip from Israeli settlements & military was a brave move by Israel, giving a chance to the Palestinians to show they can govern & prove they are worthy of trust?
p058720235 2 years ago
no - Israel should have negotiated withdrawal to empowered the PLO instead of just pulling back but keeping control of borders, airspace and coast, making it an open air concentration camp - tell anyone (I mean not a politician) in Israel it was a brave move and they'll laugh at your naivety - Israel left because it was an expensive pain in the ass to stay - they did it for their own selfish reasons, not to give the Palestinians a chance to prove themselves - please!
davis80smusic 2 years ago
I was answering a person that said:"and unless some brave people on both sides make moves without waiting for the other to do it first,"
Now to your reply: There was no one to negotiate with regarding "Gaza first" - look what happened a year later...!
This was the first step taken by Israel, the second step should have been taken by the Palestinians...this never happened.
Do you know what they did first thing?!...
p058720235 2 years ago
Burn all the synagogues & destroyed all the green houses (Hundreds of accers) that were left for them!
It was a brave move (I am from Israel & you are not) so I know what I am saying you are misinformed.
And last but not least...you are excused :-)
p058720235 2 years ago
nuts - of course they destroyed everything that reminded them of the armies that oppressed and murdered them - like anyone, including you, would have - being from Israel does not make you an expert on what's right, or guarantee a clear perspective - being from Israel might mean you want the Palestinians thrown out at gun point and the Temple rebuilt on the Mount - sorry - not buying your bullet points that most Israelis would snicker at -
davis80smusic 2 years ago
No sir, no one burnt mosques in Israel (look at a photo of Tel-Aviv, along the shore stands a big mosque.
The green houses were not military, they belonged to the settlers & the palstinians worked there, made money & could do much more if they were kept (You answer as irrational as they do).
I never said I am an expert on any thing...I have no interest in throwing anybody at gun point anywhere...
p058720235 2 years ago
and regarding the temple mount...I am a secular, liberal, center wind "zealot" & you jumping to conclusions just shows you are just another biased bigot. Sorry to "put it" straight in your face but this is the reality!
p058720235 2 years ago
you missed my point you said "(I am from Israel & you are not) so I know what I am saying" as if being from Israel automatically makes you an objective oberver of the "Truth" - my point is that being from Israel doesn't prove a thing regarding your reliability as anews source -
davis80smusic 2 years ago
re: legionofzion
Last I checked, we don't give them 50 billion dollars a year in military funding either.
greyflcn 2 years ago
true, but they are your ally, and allies usually do give money to one another, Cuba and the soviets, Cuba and Venezuela, Bolivia and El Salvador, the list goes on. Its not so odd to give money to an ally.
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago 2
what a load of crap - the US always demands certain concessions in exchange for others from the US - Sudan, N Korea etc all had to make concessions before receiving any from the US - the US and the world is demanding a specific concession from Israel - stop the settelments - and Israel has told the world to suck its dick -
davis80smusic 2 years ago
please Sudan hasn't given any meaningful concessions, which is what Iran also did filtering their uranium through Russia, and North Korea hasn't exactly held their end of the bargain up so I don't know what you are trying to prove other than most countries do not negotiate in good faith. why should Israel be any different ? I expect them to be different, better, because I have a religious tie towards them, but why do you when you do not ?
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago 2
I expect Israel to act differently than our enemies because they are our allies and we give them billions of dollars in military and financial aid and cover their asses at the UN every time they commit war crimes and break international law - their theft of the West Bank and oppression of the Palestinians is an inspiration to US -hating jihadists - I don't expect that to change your mind, but you have to admit those are legitimate reasons to expect better than Netanyahu spitting in our faces
davis80smusic 2 years ago
to a degree I understand what you are saying and I do expect better, but given the Us track record for supporting allies, is it any wonder they have little faith in your government or any plan it spearheads ?
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago
that logic cuts both ways - we invaded Iraq partially to move the peace process forward - there was lots of push from Israel, and the message that the road to mid-east peace ran through Baghdad - once we were in Iraq, Israel moved the goal post - now the road runs through Tehran! - If we take out Iran they'll find some other enemy that keeps them from seriously negotiating peace and Palestinian statehood - they will not give up the West Bank until it is taken from them with force
davis80smusic 2 years ago
what is the solution then ? Israel gives up its progressive values so America no longer cares and the middle east can embrace it ? Israel abandons the territory it won in 67 ? Palestinians prosecute their own people for errant missile attacks that derail peace objectives ? I don't see any of that happening. who could take the west bank by force other than the US ?
I want peace but not at any cost.
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago 2
Ahhh, the Iraq invasion caused by Israel...of course - where did I hear it last :-)
Most of Israelis think it was a mistake (and I say it gently) to invade Iraq - so please don't blame Israel for Americas failure.
Regarding taking back the W.B by force....who will do that...who can do that? I think our enemies have realized they can not do it by force (enemy states). The only thing that is left for them is proxy terror groups.
p058720235 2 years ago
you can find my analysis in the Jerusalem post and thoughout Israel's news media - they can say it, and Eurpoeans can - but I guess we the USA can't without you getting to hint that I'm just plain anti-semitic - nuts to that
davis80smusic 2 years ago
The Israeli political establishment was all for it and provided false info re WMD - this was in the Israeli press at the time - when things started to go bad in Iraq they backed off, publically, saying "oh we never really thought it was a good idea" - I didn't say they were the main or only cause, but the Neocon idea that the road to mid-east peace ran through Badhdad was widespread in Israeli political and military circles - or I am allowed to mention that in front of the children?
davis80smusic 2 years ago
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zodeloni 2 years ago
ha ha ha ha ha ha fucking joke, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
aaaah had to catch my breath. you zodeloni are a loser, and a racist. but here is the newsflash you missed, I'm West Indian not Jewish. That said on behalf of Jews everywhere who also consider what you just said racist, go blow a goat you ass backwards herb. go find some neo nazi KKK buddies to hang with, because you are NOT welcome here.
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago