First look at MeeGo v1.0 netbook operating system

[onekstag]

Linux is the best

[TheRealBlackClipz]

Im Using It Right Now :) .. Nice Addition To Linux Software

[johncharlesd]

looks pretty shitty to me.....

[3xilelast]

can Meego run Spreadsheets and take notes?

[fatriff]

MeeGo has been replaced with Tizen now which is going to focus on HTML5 apps.

[dude00074]

Linux...Because Penguins kick ass.

[avalonkiller]

Hard drive? Who the hell uses conventional hard drive these days? It's all about them SSD's.

[dude00074]

@avalonkiller SSD's have lower capacitys and are more expensive. Maybe when the technology reaches its high i'll switch over but for now, hard drive's are cheaper and have more storage so i think ill stay with hard drives.

[Helsbells1982]

@avalonkiller And what is wrong with conventional HDDs, They are still used by hell of alot of people,

[avalonkiller]

@Helsbells1982 They are inferior, but can't say anything's wrong with them.

[ArabicLion]

i was interesting about what is meego about and after see.

drop it in trash man!!!

great review however.

[DominikDay]

good quick review

[datadrop]

That's what I loved about it. Even though I was running the OS off of a USB stick, boot times were extremely fast!

[lucynovoa]

it looks very atractive, i'm going to try it on my mini lap,, thanks for the overview

[VAGELIS199]

its full on problems

[lasay365]

thanks!

[pyro226]

At the bottom of Preferences>Personal stuff in Chromium, there's the option "Hide system title bar and use compact borders". This may help hide the title bar.

[technologyvictim]

i can say this is really cool , are you sure its linux? :-)

[technologyvictim]

@technologyvictim .... i mean its really really cool ! how i can install this on my machine!

I want to install it NOW! and remove windows forever!

[depechex]

@technologyvictim Did you ever see ubuntu? Take a look and you'll be surprised.

[DreamvoidStudios]

Hm, I'd like to see a comparison video of jolicloud vs MeeGo. heck.. maybe I'l make one myself.

[BenyThePooh2]

It's slow, it's ugly it's MeeGo !



[fatriff]

@BenyThePooh2 well compared to windows it's supersonic.

[MusicByproduct]

Aww. The Fox wallpaper (0:30) is too cute. ^^

[staplerjm]

RIP MeeGo

[jackraidr2008]

5:24 there is a video option on the side bar ^_^

it's a bit slow is it because of he device or because of the system ?

[saintmichaelsarmoury]

Meego? Mi-go. IA! IA!

[lvieirasantos1303]

this is moblin ???

[MC00JF]

@lvieirasantos1303 yes

[flexmaen]

MeeGo worked fine on my Acer Aspire One, but like all Linux distributions of you take a closer look at it, you see the problems.

The messenger was not able to use ICQ or MSN, Installing software is too tricky and the mail client also is slower than my windows mail client. Also the menu did not have interesting options.

[cumulus0007]

@flexmaen The messenger is able to use MSN here just fine, ICQ should work as well. Installing software is not tricky at all, just use the app store.

[flexmaen]

@cumulus0007 well it still does not work here as well as the google synchronization. and in the app store are just a few apps. also playing a divx video did not work... :( i now installed thunderbird from the garage appstore but it did not show up anywhere allthough it said that it was successfully installed.

[amiih92]

@flexmaen i have te same problems... did you fix it?

[flexmaen]

@amiih92

yes, I reinstalled Windows and now everything works fine. ;)

Don't try to install MeeGo 1.2 - it somehow ruined my windows installation.

[tijs14tijs]

Cool

[Fapppful]

Love it!

[JRADtheawesome1]

could i download itunes and could it dual screen or not with this operating system?

[mentalplayground]

Ubuntu Netbook 10.10 is better, I think

[Solarpolitiks]

@mentalplayground I found the whole Unity setup to be choppy and annoying, just my opinion. Although, I normally don't go with any netbook-oriented distros

[tijs14tijs]

@mentalplayground Of course, more (free) apps, more speed, all hardware !!

[anonymous3734]

@mentalplayground

I disagree, it was seriously bad on my battery on my samsung n110 (only got 1.2hours)

[NASNIPmangco0l]

Everything runs really good on this OS, except for one ANNOYING bug. The blank screen when opening your netbook (after closing it). I really hope they fix it SOON!

[fusioniki]

This actually looks great!

[sieudaochich]

is there a terminal for Meego?

[jeffreyparke]

@sieudaochich yeah it's under the applications tab I believe under accessories, not sure though

[jeffreyparke]

@sieudaochich sorry, it's under system tools

[GeoffMezzanine]

What is the battery life like with MeeGo on a netbook?

[NASNIPmangco0l]

Is this better than Moblin v2.1? I'm currently using Moblin v2.1 on my Acer Aspire One D250. Everything's good so far, except for one thing. I can't make Twitter working. :( ... I put the right username and password under 'My Web Accounts'... But I can't still see all Tweets on "myzone"...

[HABRADASHR]

can u play games like cs.1.6,DOTA and that with this os

[NASNIPmangco0l]

@HABRADASHR I don't think so...

[alivAramO]

Is moblin?

[andrewpmast]

@alivAramO Moblin's community merged with another open source project to make MeeGo, so yea, it sort of is Moblin.

[someman7]

Chromium is Chrome without spyware (and any proprietary software is ther is such). So i don't see why anyone would want to replace it with Chrome.

[andrewpmast]

After the initial honeymoon phase, I started to dislike it. Pretty and cute but..

1) mp3 and video codecs... unlike Ubuntu which automates most of it for you, you're forced search forums. I don't care but mainstream users will.

2) Social "networking" is limited to two apps, twitter and some other obscure app. uhm, Facebook, ever heard of it?

3) Of course, wireless didn't work for Broadcom... ubuntu automates it

Just like ChromiumOS, I WANT to like it but it makes it hard for me to like it.

[Banziilloic]

@andrewpmast So I guess they didn't do much improvement since moblin huh? I tried moblin before but experienced some issue about wifi, so I switched to Jolicloud and have been using it since then. Just like you said it's cute, snap, and pretty, I'd like to use it too if they're ready out of box like ubuntu and its derivatives.

[andrewpmast]

@Banziilloic Ubuntu is definitely the most catering when it comes to getting third-party stuff installed. I think it lends to its popularity. I like Jolicloud too. I think its current release runs on ubuntu. :)

[TheFri13]

@andrewpmast Ubuntus popularity came from nice PR trick when Mark Shuttleworth gave money so Ubuntu installation disks could be mailed around the globe for the people and by free. Thats it. Otherwise there is nothing special in Ubuntu if excluding the GNOME theme, GNOME icon set and the wallpaper and very few Canonicals own custom software like proprietary Ubuntu cloud and a global notifications panel. Now just Ubuntu fans are keeping so big noise that media talks only about Ubuntu and thats it.

[andrewpmast]

@TheFri13 Good point. I was SO close to keeping MeeGo but discovered no easy way to install popular 3rd party video, wireless (like Broadcom) and sound drivers for industry standards like mp3, wav, mpg, avi, wmv.

Back in 1998, I used to hack Red Hat for hours to get all that working. So, you'd think by 2010, ANY Linux distro which stands a chance against Ubuntu needs to look at its ends user's needs. Write scripts to install drivers for my mom who never has problems installing windows.

[TheFri13]

@andrewpmast Well the codecs would be easy to install from mplayer own site. But it is true it is easier to click a package in package manager or just click media file and they are offered automatically. Or choose distribution what brings those preinstalled (illegal thing in most countries). Installing software system is never 100% sure thing if it is not done by OEM. So far best success has been with Mandriva to any computer. But not every distro out there is good for everyone or most people.

[andrewpmast]

@TheFri13 Mandriva is a merger from Mandrake Linux, right? I LOVED mMandrake when it came out. Pristine fonts and GUI.

[TheFri13]

@andrewpmast Yes, Mandriva needed to change its name from Mandrake Linux because the Mandrake cartoon copyright owners sued Mandrake from the Tux and the hat. Now Mandriva is moving away from EU area and there is a fork coming from the Mandriva Linux called "Mageia". It is community build so it will not have the commercical ties to the design (themes, configs etc).

[andrewpmast]

@TheFri13 I'll have to check it out, once it's published. I tried ChromiumOS and it's a waste of HD space. There is no sense in having a 160GB hard drive if all you can do is surf the web.  Sure, you can store photos, videos, but I found no interface to accessing them.

[micropage7]

Nice stuff, although it needs more time and development.. So far looks so good, i just hope they gonna add wine on it as soon as possible

[andybobvideogod]

It would load faster on a flash drive than a hard drive! hard drives arent as fast as flash drives thats why pc's use ram and not just pagefiles

[zelinkaa]

nice vid :)

[LbsOfTech]

Your loading from a flash drive which is same as ssd, so its gonna be faster.

[Cr0iX1337]

@LbsOfTech

haha, you really believe that ? :)

Try download hdtech and test the reag/write speed on your flash drive..

It's much slower !!

[TheFri13]

@LbsOfTech Even that USB sticks have flash chips in them, they are about 50-100x slower than flash chips used in SSD's. Example, Kingston 16GB Stick writes 2.3MB/s and reads 4.5MB/s. Typical SSD reads 200MB/s and writes 190MB/s.

Even the 133 PATA gives 80MB/s read speed and 30-60MB/s write speed.

[LoftyCuber]

Hm, meego looks nice but it has a long way to go. I've tested it out the past few days on my laptop just for fun. I agree with you about the huge bars and the goofy full screen for things just like a calculator.

I like how its trying to integrate your social streams right into the OS as thats a huge part of computer use for most people myself included. They are just going to have to increase greatly the amount of services they integrate to appeal to more users.

[LoftyCuber]

@LoftyCuber

I use facebook, skype, and google services. If there was deep integration for these it would be a more appealing OS. Having a twitter feed is great, if you use twitter but I don't.

They also need to greatly increase the number of apps in the app store. Being built on the linux kernel there are already so many applications out there that need to be packaged in a form that can be put in the garage.

So it has a lot of potential and I'm looking forward to its future.

[sebbeks]

@LoftyCuber Remember, this is version 1.0 :)

[megamanfan3]

I guess MeeGo might be a good OS for netbooks. If I had a netbook, I might use MeeGo until a final build of Chrome OS is released.

[eMiLpR0p]

Great vid! Thank you!

[esanikulainen]

BTW, I got this netbook with Windows 7 pre-installed. At the beginning it was veeery slow. With Intel optimized Linux OS it is about 4 times faster than with Windows 7 Starter Edition. Thank you Intel and Nokia for great work! Keep on doing good development and business! God bless you!

[esanikulainen]

I'm satisfied user of Moblin Linux. Meego is the successor of Moblin and Nokia's Maemo Linux OSes. My opinion is just: it is great! It is exactly designed for netbooks with small displays. It starts very fast and it's very easy and quick to use. I have also Nokia N900, but I'm using Moblin v 2 with my Samsung NC10. Moblin and Meego are both optimized for Intel Atom processors. Thats the reason why it is so fast and responsive all the time.

[xkeo21]

I hate the UI. Its like its built for a 5 year olds first computer. The layout is a total cluster fuck.

[MiZoSpaDe]

@xkeo21 maybe you think that , but it's looks cool for me xD

maybe i'm 5 years old !

[sebbeks]

@xkeo21 Then don't use it

[KaiVanRay]

Operating System hahahaha, What for a joke, its not more than a program, which can start threads. Nokia come on, you can it better

[mmaccoutinho]

@KaiVanRay The way I see it it has everything most netbook users want their netbooks for and I'm looking forward to give it a shot although it looks somewhat childish.

[sebbeks]

@KaiVanRay At least it can support flash unlike the iPad ;)

[KaiVanRay]

Can I download it as an app for iPad :-)

[MiCkolka]

Rather simple and interesting system, I think

[IsaacDFP]

Please very important question... Will MeeGo support sim card 3G connectivity?? Most new netbook will feature a sim card slot for connectivity on the go, but they run Windows 7 Starter, which is quite slow on a Atom Netbook, can MeeGo connect to the internet via 3G?

[RangerDK21]

is it for me only? He looks like Tony Stark from iron Man :D

[tissot233]

I'm most of all interested about the tablet and handheld UX, but will probally install this to my netbooks. It sure looks nice.

[meideiprod]

Moblin desktop enviroment is actually pretty good for netbooks. I suggest installing Fedora 13 Moblin Respin instead of meego (Fedora has more software and hardware support)

[velthon]

Does it can be installed in double boot mode (P.E.: W7 & Meego) from HDD?

[meutoober]

what a mess.

[rpgjohn]

LOL

[deihmos]

It crashes a lot and hardly has any applications like Open Office. Pretty much a waste of time at this point..

[NotASocialCommentary]

Too bad it's primarily an Intel project. It supports...x86 with SSE3, Atom processors, and the ARM chip in the Nokia N900. It's also a bitch to build the system, so using the "Open Source" aspect of it doesn't do much for you if you want it on an ARM netbook, or an AMD desktop machine...or a Pentium 4 or PowerPC for that matter.

Intel, fucking with consumer freedom since the mid-1990's. Shame, too, because MeeGo looks fucking gorgeous.

[YUPnNOPE]

this OS sucks.

[OGOzone]

@YUPnNOPE So does your mother but you don't hear people crying about it on the internet.

[xq0404]

We should limit multitasking as much as possible. Multitasking actually distracts a lot and reduces efficiency in our daily life. It's an illusion that multitasking increases efficiency.

[OGOzone]

you can remove that system bar on chrome.

[afederdk]

@OGOzone See, this is why Android has a head start. "You can" is not good enough. It should just work. Real users won't bother applying weird hacks.

[OGOzone]

@afederdk It's not some wierd hack. It's in chromes settings. Usually it's set to off by default, but for some reason this build it's not.  In "Chromium Options" under "Personal Stuff" there is the option to "use or hide system title bar and borders" Your wierd hack is as simple as un-checking a box.

[yasir25119918]

Looks like ipad's interface inspired Os but looks ugly and Not as responsive.

[Mohamedhp]

Can I get this on WinMo just wondering XD

[cyborgtroy]

It would be great to have this for old people so I don't have to mess with Windows every time my relatives have a computer problem.

[sxpacks]

nice screen transition

[bo0oro]

Lame. Следващия път се подготви по-добре!

[townxelliot]

@reshwindblade Have you run it on VirtualBox? If so, please upload the video, I'd love to see it :)

[townxelliot]

@matthyahuw It's entirely possible to run multiple applications side by side (multitasking). It just so happens he only had that one application running on its own in that zone.

[matthyahuw]

I like it, but wouldn't use it on anything other than a phone/tablet/slate...the no-multitasking thing (like the solo calc) is annoying

[miguelwmonteiro]

Who uses wep?

[Vitruviux]

I really like those black cursors, I wonder if they can be extracted from the Meego image?

[angelusp777]

This is the perfect software for a tablet device!!

[daftrok]

What about fullscreen youtube in 480p or 720p? I'm curios to see that work on this.

[Bugside]

@daftrok it probably lags a lot in this atom processors

[elgrandamian]

@Bugside It's actually optimized for Atom processors.

[Bugside]

@elgrandamian the os might be optimized for atom processors, but decoding video is decoding video, it relies on raw processor power whatever the os

[cirodiazvelez]

Great video!!!!

[NathanielOfficial]

looks okie, osx & windows 7 + 2gig ram is what i run on a hp110, and it works wonders

netbooks are pretty capable machines i use areo +one note+ skpe + powerpoint + multiple tabs of chrome when taking notes in class, and the lil guy does it with ease .

[imrstr]

hmm looks really ugly to me. i dont think this will find his way on much systems...

[peyo22rmgt]

@poka64 official release for n900 available (no ui atm but in v 1.1 as far as I know), no support from nokia for running meego on n900 (but who cares ;) )

[thecursedfly]

Very well done video, thanks a lot.

[ahmadgeo]

@ 05:25, there is an noption for Videos, Podcasts, and Radio :)

[CrazyEoin]

Pretty sweet! Would love to give it a go but not got a netbook with an atom chip. Looks very very promising!

[douaberiro]

look very nice. I like the top icons , and the background drawings. Also looks like they need to do a lot more work, but still very good looking

[modernkoro]

Nice but please beautify the UI.

In the netbook, MeeGo looks faster than Windows.

[Strahlex]

@modernkoro linux is always faster than windows

[jdidesign]

Does the task bar on the home screen support descriptions?

[h4ck3rm1k3]

can i get this running on my normal ubuntu desktop?

[reshwindblade]

@h4ck3rm1k3 install virtualbox then maybe, but seriously this is for netbooks :)

[akse112]

@h4ck3rm1k3

I think u need an atom processor

[h4ck3rm1k3]

@akse112 I had netbook remix running on my quad core server, and now am running xfce. It would be nice to have a lightweight desktop, who needs all this memory usage!

[costolleumus]

Nice! I like it! What is with n900 version?

[poka64]

@costolleumus no official release for n900, maybe a community driven MeeGo will be available in the future

[zolgiii]

@poka64 It´s not maybe, it is coming, unofficially... In Q4 with graphics interface.

[reshwindblade]

@costolleumus n900 version should be next few days or weeks. They having some trouble with it according to the mailing list :(