Pt.2 The Holy Tongue Lashawan Qadash (Hebrew)

[ControversyTheGreat]

Thawadah ahchyam.I've been studyin this Hebrew for about 5 months now.I'm still having trouble on knowing wether on how I should pronounce certain words with certain endings.For example "alap + bayath" is pronounced "ahba".But what about "alap + mayam" which is mother?Would I pronounce it "ahma"?Or how about the "Ayan + lamad"?It means "on" or "over".I don't know wether to pronounce it "ILA" or "IL".Much appreciated.Thawadah wa shalawam ahchyam.

[aboutadonis]

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[Givethanksforlife]

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[Profit613]

It's more than obvious that the Arayah LQ has NOT been proven by these men or other UPKers. This is why questions don't get answered and the reasoning behind this belief is "faith". This is a Jim Jones type of reasoning for those gullible naive followers.

This nonsense is a stumbling block to our young uneducated brothers. They are being taken out of the frying pan & into the fire....Shame, shame, shame....

[TheEndOfYourWorld]

profit 666

is there any endeavor or action taken by

Man where he does not need FAITH ?

Your analogy of Jim Jones proves

"Blind Faith ' My faith is not blind

and it was Mostly Women and

Pussy whipped men who followed Jones .

so spare me your weak lecture and even weaker analogy on FAITH .

Ephesians 2:8: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

[Profit613]

You have yet to prove or bring forth your reasoning behind this faith that you have in LQ. It wasn't "grace" that led you to this faith in the LQ.

If one asked you the same question concerning the "old" english language could you also use faith to justify why you believe in that or would you reference authoritative sources on the language and show through grammar and phonetics why you support it?

You've simply accepted a teaching by someone who doesn't even speak hebrew... interesting.

[TheEndOfYourWorld]

For u to believe anything and i mean anything

u need an ingredient called Faith .

and i will prove it by a question

u said u are about truth

tell me is there a GOD ?

[Profit613]

You are showing your lack of understanding concerning FAITH. It doesn't mean to BLINDLY FOLLOW OR BELIEVE.

1. There are mand "gods"

2. There is only ONE CREATOR

3. I believe (have faith) that there is a creator for many LOGICAL reasons. I'll give you one example: From the largest galaxy to the smallest molecule or atom we can see ORDER & DESIGN. These things aren't random. Some one was behind this.

So where is your logic behind believing Arayah's LQ?

[TheEndOfYourWorld]

How do u know there's a God ?

How do you know there's an atom or a molecule

what is order ? what is design ?

who told you this ?

[Profit613]

Atoms & Molecules are VISIBLE under microscopes.

Did you take Biology & Chemistry in High school?...probably not.(and before you say that "the white mans" schools are B.S.) you should research ancient science & education. NOT everything that's taught in their schools are bad. It's usually the uneducated who speak against education.

Order & Design are words that you can look up on your own.

Job 9:7-9

Now please give me your logic behind your faith in Arayah's LQ.

[TheEndOfYourWorld]

how do you know it's atoms and molecules

who told you that ?

u mention education

define the word FROM THE LATIN

how do you know it's in order

how do you know it's a design ?

were u there when this order and design was layed down ?

[TheEndOfYourWorld]

and u didn't answer mine question Jackass

HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE IS A GOD ?

I am sure de white man taught you how to

pay attention .

[Profit613]

Your question was answered. Now you're just playing games.

[TheEndOfYourWorld]

i am playing the same game you're playing

only i am much better at it .

Now answer my question

U said there is a Creator

How do you know this ?

[TheEndOfYourWorld]

Hebrews 11:

6: But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

And FAITH IS ALL we NEED

John, chapter 20;

"29": Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

u see, Abu and then u believe

we see not , yet believe. and who is more blessed Abu ?

[Profit613]

Spoken like a true cult member.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

DCD, again, you're the positive claimant. You're the one who claims Zephanaiah was referring to Ahrayah's LQ innovation, so the burden of proof is on you. But, then, with your Peter question, you seemed to tacitly admit to having no evidence. With that in mind, I would ask you to look deep down inside yourself, and ask yourself (A) why you just took 1 West's word for it, and (B) why you teach others you seem to know has no support.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

As for Zeph 3:9, I understand it as a return to the state described in Genesis 11:1 (and, personally, I understand Judith 3:8 as hinting that Nebuccanezzar had intentions to falsely recreate that state).

Now, I don't claim to know /that/ language. But when UPKers apply a LQ pronunciation to the Hebrew Bible, that strikes me as a tacit assumption that the Hebrew Bible was written in that language. So I look at the available evidence for how to properly pronounce that text.

[TheEndOfYourWorld]

Abu

Zephaniah 3:9

if u cannot tell what it is

then you cannot tell what it is not .

and seeing this thing is based upon faith

which u dont have being a heathen

your argument is nothing more than a LARK .

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

THEENDOFYOURWORLD, you were the ones who brought up Zeph 3:9. If you claim it refers to Ahrayah's LQ innovation, then the burden of proof is on you (anyone can say it is based on "faith" for any doctrine).

My arguments focused on Biblical Hebrew (being that you guys apply LQ pronunciations to the Biblical Hebrew text, it seems you believed Biblical Hebrew is LQ). Myself and others have presented evidence of ancient pronunications of Biblical Hebrew. You guys offered no evidence, only faith.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

DCD, Peter received it as a revelation from God the Father. But I see no reason to believe this somehow means Ahrayah's claims are, therefore, also revelations.

With all due respect, sir, that's a cop-out that anyone can use to cover any innovation. And you always go to this Peter question when you have no evidence, thus you seem to have tacitly admitted that you have no evidence here (do you believe that Matthew 16:17 means 1 Thessalonians 5:21 does not apply to Ahrayah or 1 West?).

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

DCD, do the math:

(1) Zep 3:9 predate Clement and Theodoret by about 1000 years.

(2) Clement and Theodoret predate Ahrayah and 1 West by over 1500 years.

(3) Therefore, Zep 3:9 predates Ahrayah and 1 West by over 2,500 years!

So what's the point? Does predating Clement and Theodoret mean they were wrong? If so, why doesn't predating Ahrayah make him wrong? I don't see the logic of your argument.

And since you mention FACTS, what FACTS did Ahrayah provide?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

DCD, if you are the one who claims that Zephaniah 3:9 is referring to Ahrayah's LQ innovation, then the burden of proof is on YOU, not me. Stop shifting the burden of proof, and provide your evidence.

With all due respect, sir, the fact that you have avoided showing evidence leads to the suspicion that you have no evidence (did you just take 1 West's word for it? what happened to "prove all things"?).

Sir, I hope that one day you will actually try to answer my question about Matthew 27:46.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

DCD, answer my question regarding Matthew 27:46. If you don't know, then say you don't know!

Or, provide evidence that Zeph 3:9 is referring to the innovation taught by Ahrayah. If you don't have any ebvidence, then say you don't have any evidence!

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

DCD, what I said was that I have seen no evidence that Zephaniah 3:9 is referring to Ahrayah's LQ innovation. Now, is it fair to conclude that you do not believe the rule of "prove all things" applies to you? You say "put up or shut up," but you have yet to put up the evidence for your claims.

I started this discussion with a question about Matthew 27:46. Why have you avoided it? Why are you trying to obfuscate and draw attention away from that original subject?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

DCD, is אלי pronounced "Ahlaya" or "Eli"? Should we believe the NT got it wrong? If you claims "Ahlaya" is the right answer, what is your evidence? Why have you avoided this question?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

DCD, when did I ever call myself an authority on the ancient language? See, that's the difference between you and me. I don't call myself "scholar," "prophet," "authority," et cetera.

You're the one who claims to have 100% truth, so why don't you answer your own question, and then provide evidence for the answer?

Here's a question for you: who should people believe with regard to how to pronounce אלי? You guys, or the Bible?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

DCD, why the repetition? And you accuse me of "filibustering"? Why don't you address my points?

Proponents of Ahrayah's LQ innovation claim אלי, for example, is pronounced "Ahlaya". Proponents of actual Biblical Hebrew say it is pronounced "Eli". How do you explain the fact that the ancient Greek text of Matthew 27:46 transliterated it essentially the same way (ηλι)?

If you again avoid this point, and just repeat your question, one will assume you are unable to answer.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

DCD, we've been down this road already. You guys are the ones who assert that Ahrayah's LQ innovation is the pure language referred to in Zephaniah 3:9. He who asserts must prove. Being that you are the positive claimant, you should provide evidence.

So the question again, which you have refused to answer is: what is your evidence for these claims?

Or, if you'd like, you can address the points I've already posted to this video.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

Now here's the simple example which was given in TAK's first video on this subject. You claim the word for god (אל) is "AhLa". In the past Tahar has claimed "my god" (e.g. in Psalms 22:1, אלי) is pronounced "AhLaYa". But why then did the ancient Greek text of the New Testament (cf. Matthew 27:46) transliterate it "eli" (ηλι)? Do you have any evidence whatsoever that אלי is pronounced "AhLaYa"?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

Now, TruthAfterKnowledge has put forth several videos refuting this doctrine of "Lashawan Qadash" (and the DeeJayEmet page also did one video). Thus far you men have been silent on the issue.

In part 1 of this series, you tried to set up the false dichotomy of either trust the UPKers or trust "the white man". Why not consult ancient sources? For example, can you cite any evidence that the character you call "Taza" is pronounced that way? Can you cite any justification at all for that claim?

[LexiconOfGMS]

AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee

Don't worry about the pronunciation or break downs of words, just get ready for slavery!

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

LEXICONOFGMS, such an empty slogan does not answer any of the questions.

Let me remind you that you have provided zero evidence that any of this is true, and you have deliberately ignored the different videos refuting the doctrine.

If you have an open challenge, if you have 100% truth, et cetera, shouldn't you be able to address the points raised above?