You know i wish i had the patience to make videos the way this guy does, but i see a trend in them. He never seems to discuss WHY these babies get their way like this. Wtf happened? All these women pullup their nonsense and WHY are men rolling over?
Mistake 1-Here I am a liberal woman who AGREES with you, and here you are treating me like an enemy! The first thing you need is people of all walks who agree with you. 2-You need to band together and BOYCOTT businesses who discriminate. 3-You need numbers of people, and some media attention. 4-Gloating about how you can "take the abuse' is unproductive in your cause. It's not that I like it, but that's just how things are in life.
@gwenshin Well, then I apologize, liberal woman who agrees with me. I don't feel I've been rude though, just airing out my grievances with our culture. You make good points, but I just don't see men doing that. These guys are getting media attention though. What you're seeing in the male community is individual action, not really any group action, and I think it will continue to become a bigger movement (of individuals though).
Agreed, c'est la vie. Things are changing though. Slowly.
So your'e telling me that rallying together" to fix a problem is not working at all, but sitting in a chair, whining and crying to people on Youtube is? Im beginning to believe that some people (in spite of all their moaning about it ) are just gluttons for abuse and really don't want to change anything.
@gwenshin You're right, conversation has no relevance. Only mob mentality and abusing our system of law and being a hypocrite when it comes to discrimination is the only way change can be made. Clearly, one person can make a difference. If it be through having conversations with individuals, or like the owner of this video did with the very problem he's discussing in the video.
There are ways to get things done other than using mob mentality. That's all I'm saying.
@gwenshin The only gluttons for abuse I see around are people who do not complain about the discrimination that happens today and the double standards that most modern women hold. The gluttons for abuse are the men who remain quiet and bend over backwards for women who do not respect them or the work they do, and will toss them aside if they feel another man can provide her with more luxuries. Try to belittle people like me all you want, it's really the only power you have.
@gwenshin The gluttons are the men who slave away buying a woman a ring who makes just as much, if not more, than they do. The gluttons are the ones that constantly keep pushing themselves to provide for a woman who no longer needs to be provided for, but still clings to her traditional benefits, and will judge a man accordingly for not fulfilling them.
I find it amusing you consider me a glutton for punishment, when clearly, I'm fed up with the double standards in Western society.
@bweazel Again, I AGREE with you on this one too, but what can you do? You cannot tell people how to live their marriage or relationships, but you CAN do many things about businesses that discriminate and hold you back from getting a job that your'e qualified for.
I also should mention how classism is now acceptable in society, while racism and sexism is not. I'ts ok to discriminate someone if they don't have a car, or if they are homeless. They rarely get hired for a job, yet they need it the most. Go figure.
In all fairness policies in the past such as last hired, first fired, and other racist hiring policies necessitated things like affirmative action, now I do not agree that women should be piggy backing on that because as you and other MRAs have pointed out, women haven't been discriminated against in american history . Now do I agree with quotas for hiring minorities? NO, but checks should be in place to prevent racist hiring policies.
I understand your frustration, but you are angry at the wrong people. You should be angry at the employers who discrimated against women and minorities in the past. They are the reason we have those laws in force now. If they were fair to begin with, we wouldn't have to deal with affirmative action at this time.
@gwenshin So at what point does your theory become useless anymore? At what point can women stop getting the freebies in society (even though they were never discriminated against as a group in history). At what point do you think giving men the shaft (for something they never did) is enough? I would say now. You all never deserved them, and you still do not.
Women need a huge dose of integrity, and quick, or things will get much worse.
@bweazel I understand because now there are jobs that flat out tell you they do NOT hire men. (Usually sales and caregiver jobs) Ive worked at jobs like that and was told exactly that when I tried to help my son and male friends get hired at places Ive worked. Is it discrimination and illegal? Yes. Do men challenge it? Rarely. Which is why they are the ones who are getting the shaft now.
@gwenshin Your gender has every door opened to you, we have every door closed. Unlike your gender, we were raised to tough it up and not complain, you all, on the other hand, seem to know nothing but complaining. I see, so throw your integrity to the wind, and try to use government as a club against everyone and anyone who says no to you. What a sham, again, integrity. Women have zero, and these corrupt politicians enable them more each day. The self interested left will destroy this country.
@bweazel I hate to break this to you, but fairness is never ititally handed out to ANYONE on a sliver platter. (except maybe for the wealthy). If you want fairness, you have to do like everyone else throughout history has done. Get out there, band together, and DEMAND it.
@gwenshin You're not breaking anything to me. Am I the one trying to use government to enforce what I consider fair? No. Mob mentality is not something that I would be a part of. "DEMAND" it, lol. Who the hell do you people think you are to demand anything of anyone else? The entitlement you people carry around is staggering.
@bweazel You ARE "entitled" to fair treatment! Since when has the word "entitlement" become a bad thing? That phrase "entitlement mentallity" has been used to get people to accept unfair treatment, lower and lower wages, less and less benefits, and less and less rights.. The ONLY reason we have ANYTHING good in this country is because someone, somewhere was willing to fight and sometimes even die for things they belived in.
@gwenshin You are not entitled to anything, that's why it's become a bad thing. You WORK for what you get, there is no such thing as you just being entitled to something. You EARN things, you're not entitled. I would think that would be pretty self evident to everyone. And it should also be pretty obvious to anyone with an ounce of integrity, that if you are not working, someone else is taking care of you, even if it is indirectly through taxation and welfare distribution.
@gwenshin The reason this country is what it is, is because we were the hardest workers on this planet. It has next to nothing to do with someone willing to fight and to die. It's about risk and reward. You speak of the world like an adult child. If you scream loud enough, before long, you'll get your way. That is not the world I want to grow up in. Where regardless if people are right or justified to behave a certain way, they will get their way if they keep throwing a fit. That's shameful.
@gwenshin Your logic is leftist logic though. You admit it's discrimination, and instead of just scrapping the whole idea, you want people to repeat the same thing your predecessors did. You don't clean up shit by taking a fresh shit on top of the pile. You simply clean it up. Easy, eh? Sadly, the leftists idea of fixing a mistake is adding yet another mistake on top of it. If the first position is without integrity, how can you honestly say that you support men doing the same thing women did?
@bweazel If it's considered "Leftist" to be willing to fight and die for what one belives is right, that would make our military leftist as well. Everything we enjoy today is because people had to fight tooth and nail for it at some point in history. If it wasnt' for "leftists" things would be FAR worse in the workplace. You think it's bad now? How about some boss threatening to fire you if you don't let him sleep with your wife for example? ""Evil leftist" laws protect you from that.
"Juden verbotten" appeared on most job applications in germany. certain groups were targeted for EXCLUSION and special discrimination and oppression.
AMERICAN (inclusion) METHOD:
"women and minorities encouraged to apply" is on all of our job applications. many groups are targeted for INCLUSION in special programs of protections and benefits.
if anyone can explain to me how the RESULTS of either of these policies arrive at different ends, i would love to hear it.
I noticed seeing a Now Hiring poster that says "Equal opportunity & Affirmative Action employer" when I went to the Chase bank earlier today. I thought it was pretty contradictory as well as unfair to non-"minority" males; I'm considered to be a "minority" male but I know it's not right to be turned down or have others be favored over you based on factors out of your control (race, gender, etc) .
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Oh please. White men are still the least discriminated group in society. Not everybody has equal access to every job. Unfortunately racism, sexism, and other forms of discrimination exist. Until, everybody sees that one's gender or race doesn't equal qualification for jobs, afffirmative action laws will have to be necessary in my opinion.
That makes NO sense. If one's gender or race doesn't matter then you should be against affirmative action as it favors women and "minority" groups. How are white men the least discriminated against? If what I went through happened to a woman, it would definitely be considered discrimination. But if discrimination happens to a white male, it just gets ignored or is considered "necessary". This is what feminists do, completely ignore discrimination against men.
@theignoredgender Men typically have an easier time getiing into female-dominated jobs than vice versa. I'm not saying this is always true, but more often than not it is.
If a job is female-dominated then it's because: men aren't interested in that particular job, or the business prefers to hire women, or maybe more women were better for the job than men. But men have no advantage into getting any job because of his gender, if anything his gender puts him at a disadvantage. There is no affirmative action for men but there are laws and policies that favor women. How many times does this need to be said?
@iluvthejobros9 "typically" = "I'm not saying this is always true, but more often than not it is." Not all men are like that! ;-)
"White men are still the least discriminated group in society." Their r co. that will not hire men & have you looked at main stream media for the last 8 years?
Wouldn't it be nice to receive, retain and even get promoted, to fill a quota with your penis. You would want to hang on to that as long as possible, huh -- Oh, sorry, I meant to say that to @theignoredgender
@iluvthejobros9 Because female dominate jobs require no real skills, hence the reason the are female dominated in the first place. If you are going to go into male dominated jobs, you need to actually be able to do the job. You need to be an above average woman with strength. Most women are not suited to do construction work, mining, security work, etc. You would be a burden.
How about you stop shaking your fist at the universe and just accept what it dealt you. Stop taking it out on us.
@iluvthejobros9 Furthermore, women refuse to go into science, engineering, math, or anything that requires logical thinking or crunching numbers. Women are nonexistent in these fields due to their own selfish choices. They realize they don't need to try that hard, and they don't. They would much rather crowd into classes dealing in sociology, psych, etc. Jobs which have no real value to society, but are jobs that offer them even more flexibility. Own up to your genders choices, please.
@theignoredgender I'm sorry you had to go through what you did. Companies wouldn't have to worry about hiring diverse employers once everyone realizes that gender or race aren't factors in doing a job well.
"Until, everybody sees that one's gender or race doesn't equal qualification for jobs, (gender/racial qualification) laws will have to be necessary in my opinion."
You are some sort of lunatic. White males are the most unfairly demonized group of people in Western society. Evil rich white man this, stupid white redneck that...Those words are said without any calls of prejudice. Point out stereotypes of anyone else besides white males and its called a hate crime or racism.
@iluvthejobros9 Affirmative action laws themselves are racist and sexist because they essentially say, "Without government assistance, women and minorities could never compete with white males." As a black man, I happen to think that women and minorities are completely capable of accomplishing great things on their own, and that these laws are an insult. By supporting affirmative action laws, you're supporting racism and sexism, and acknowledging that white males are intrinsically superior.
Um, are you kidding? Females as a whole are protected beyond their own wildest dreams; they literally don't have to take responsibility for anything they do anymore. As far as the race thing is considered, yes there are still instances where the white person has an advantage against a minority but for the most part, white men are encouraged to shut the fuck up while women and minorities walk all over us and if we make a peep about it, we're called racists.
@DoItYouWont100 Are you kidding? Women have to work twice as hard as men to get recognition in jobs and constantly have to prove themselves. This society is made by men for men.
Affirmative action certainly does not favor men, there are laws that protect women only but no laws protecting men only, men do not get freebies and discounts for being men unlike women, violence and sexism against men is considered funny/entertaining, yet only women can play the "victim card". It's really insulting that you say this society is "for men".
@iluvthejobros9 Thank you for displaying what it is like to live without the vast majority of your brain cell functioning. You have blythly ignored any bit of reason or logic put to you and continued to sprout retoric and incongruent diatribe. You will fit well into feminism.
Pick up a law book and actually look through it and you'll see that everything you just said is a blatant lie. There are dozens of laws that protect women during the divorce process and the DV department not to mention your reproduction rights. Sorry ma'am, but you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, so stop pretending you do.
@iluvthejobros9 This society is made by men, for women. Always has been, most likely always will be. Women are still pampered by society, even more so since feminism has shown up. You all are treated like grown children. You have plenty of legislated benefits that men do not have access to, or the rare occasion they do, they do not benefit from them due to discrimination.
In this world, women are human beings, men are human doings. Open your eyes and cut the bullshit, please.
Utter nonsense. This culture is a matriarchy with the trappings of patriarchy. Everything is bearing geared towards and for women---everyone else (even children) are second rate. Women are privilidged in this society on many fronts and even take advantage of double standards that will favor them (such as postive discrimation).
@iluvthejobros9 A place of employment can blatantly specify" NO MALES "for jobs, with no worries about any legal action taken against them. Especially if it involves taking care of children, or the elderly. As if men are all brutes that are incapable of being able to take care of the weak and sick. I also see this in sales jobs because women are more likely to produce sales for companies than men are. Why? Because both men and women tend to trust women more.
"NO ONE is seeking "Equal Outcomes". Why on Earth do people keep making that false claim?"
Are you fucking ignorant?? Affirmative Action = Equal Outcomes. Employers have QUOTAS to meet with hiring regarding minorities and women (white men not included!). How the fuck is that not Equal Outcomes?
I'll put this in the smallest possible words for you.
Affirmative Action, and related policies which go under various names like "gender equity", are not in the slightest about "equal outcomes".
Instead, they are specifically about preferential treatment in hiring, retention, and promotion for women (primarily) and non-Caucasian men (secondarily).
Those policies are not to institute numerical equality, but to institute numerical superiority:
While job hunting last year, websites of companies that I applied for jobs had the a section on 'Policies' that described how the company enforced "equality" and did not tolerate "discrimination". In the section on 'Benefits', some of the benefits listed were things like women-only scholarships and women-only education programs.
At my current job in the "Policies" guidelines is a list of what counts as "discrimination". In what does not count it has, "Affirmative action is not discrimination".
fuck liberal policies and fuck tis minority multiculturalsim bullshit!
white men are getting screwed, they give all of these advantages to other races and women, and there is no reason to do this anymore. Mainly because white men are no longer the "majority."
Why should we give away our power to these fucking minorities when we are getting screwed over. Letys take our power back!
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it's sexist because women and minorities are at a disadvantage. the only privileged class are while males. It's been proven time and time again that women are less well paid for the same positions men hold, and the "glass ceiling" and boys club still exist, especially in the financial industry. Did you know that women are paid 75 cents for every dollar a man is paid? You probably didn't get the job maybe because you weren't qualified enough, not because you're a white male.
My comments still are not sexist, I never said that women and minorities were inferior.
Men typically get paid more because they usually work longer hours, take fewer days off, do more dangerous jobs, are more willing to travel and take risks. It's rare that ANY 2 people doing the same job get paid the same. It depends on so many other factors.
Wasn't qualified enough? Did you actually watch the entire video?
How are women and minorities at a disadvantage when they are the ones who are given extra ENCOURAGEMENT to apply and end up getting the job? If white males were encouraged to apply and they got the job, I bet you would consider that to be discrimination. What I went through is the exact same scenario.
@BoopaDooP2252 I call bullshit. White WOMEN are the most privileged group of people ever -- throughout the entire course of human history, no other group has been so privileged as white women.
"women and minorities are at a disadvantage" why? how? it is YOUR propaganda that constantly reminds us that we are all equal, but now these groups are inherently disadvantaged?! you talk about the glass ceiling, but never the GLASS BASEMENT. apparently its ok with you that men also do all of the WORST jobs that women arent interested in "breaking into". you assume an unofficial bias for men and then propose to correct that with an OFFICIAL bias for women and minorities.
@BoopaDooP2252 And how many women are clamoring to get into the "glass cellar" jobs? Let's encourage women to collect garbage, work in waste water treatment, clean the sewer, construction; you know, all those jobs Mike Rowe does.
"Did you know that women are paid 75 cents for every dollar a man is paid?" is derived from only examining the outcome, not the hours worked, that the positions are the same, or accepted salary packages. Choices lead to the discrepancy. The wage gap is a myth.
@BoopaDooP2252 And how many women are clamoring to get into the "glass cellar" jobs? Let's encourage women to collect garbage, work in waste water treatment, clean the sewer, construction; you know, all those jobs Mike Rowe does.
"Did you know that women are paid 75 cents for every dollar a man is paid?" is derived from only examining the outcome, not the hours worked, that the positions are the same, or accepted salary packages. Choices lead to the discrepancy. The wage gap is a myth.
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are you kidding me? this is the worst take on discrimination that I've ever seen. Your comments are extremely sexist. You should probably read up on the facts that not every race,class, or gender have equal opportunities to apply for certain jobs. So your "analysis" that probably more men or women are interested in a particular job is completely ridiculous. I can't believe that someone like you is teaching our youth.
Yes, you are right not every race, class, or gender have equal opportunities. In particular, white males. As I have shown in my video clearly women and minorities were encouraged to apply and they ended up getting the job even though they had no experience there but I had for 3 years and I didn't get the job. Affirmative Action is just legal discrimination. Why is it so hard to believe that I'm teaching? My students certainly like how I teach.
The only thing that should matter when selecting among the candidates is skill and expierence alone.
You get to choose how skilled you are going to be a particular field, but you don't get to choose who you are born as. Why should you or I be punished for being men?
Giving anyone (including women and blacks or any other race.) preferential treatment IS discrimination.
Skill and experience is the only thing that should matter, plain and simple.
I worked as an istitutional researcher in higher education for several years and I am intimately familliar with this kind of bullshit. This especialy goes on in enrollment and grant allocation that are geared towards "gender equality" and "diversity." It is actualy about putting men at a disadvantage. It is a war on male students. Look at my article in MND called The Marvelous Mr Murphy and Other Anecdotes From my Education"
I read it and commented on it. That type of shit really makes me sick and it needs to be brought out to the public's attention. More people should stand up against this gynocracy. I admire you for doing that. If an institution fires you for standing up for what's right then that was really no place to be working in the first place.
I was fired because my manager sabotoged my work and said awfull things about me to the directors behind my back. She altered my employment records to indicate that my performance wasn't satisfactory, shitmouthed me to everyone in the local IR association so I couldn't get a job and then plagerized my work. She had a sign abover her desk that said: If a man hears a tree fall and a woman isn't around to hear it did it realy happen?" A true piece of work that one.
Whites have become a minority in this country. I am a person of "minority'. I am of Hispanic descent, and I know where you are coming from. All this "diverse" multiculturalism is a sham because men and even women from all different backgrounds feel the sting one way or another. Feminism has done nothing productive for society in general and many women have no choices in reality because they are forced to do what feminism tells them to do under the pretense of "equality" and "independence".
You know i wish i had the patience to make videos the way this guy does, but i see a trend in them. He never seems to discuss WHY these babies get their way like this. Wtf happened? All these women pullup their nonsense and WHY are men rolling over?
MagnusCattus 2 months ago
Mistake 1-Here I am a liberal woman who AGREES with you, and here you are treating me like an enemy! The first thing you need is people of all walks who agree with you. 2-You need to band together and BOYCOTT businesses who discriminate. 3-You need numbers of people, and some media attention. 4-Gloating about how you can "take the abuse' is unproductive in your cause. It's not that I like it, but that's just how things are in life.
gwenshin 3 months ago
@gwenshin Well, then I apologize, liberal woman who agrees with me. I don't feel I've been rude though, just airing out my grievances with our culture. You make good points, but I just don't see men doing that. These guys are getting media attention though. What you're seeing in the male community is individual action, not really any group action, and I think it will continue to become a bigger movement (of individuals though).
Agreed, c'est la vie. Things are changing though. Slowly.
bweazel 3 months ago
So your'e telling me that rallying together" to fix a problem is not working at all, but sitting in a chair, whining and crying to people on Youtube is? Im beginning to believe that some people (in spite of all their moaning about it ) are just gluttons for abuse and really don't want to change anything.
gwenshin 3 months ago
@gwenshin You're right, conversation has no relevance. Only mob mentality and abusing our system of law and being a hypocrite when it comes to discrimination is the only way change can be made. Clearly, one person can make a difference. If it be through having conversations with individuals, or like the owner of this video did with the very problem he's discussing in the video.
There are ways to get things done other than using mob mentality. That's all I'm saying.
bweazel 3 months ago
@gwenshin The only gluttons for abuse I see around are people who do not complain about the discrimination that happens today and the double standards that most modern women hold. The gluttons for abuse are the men who remain quiet and bend over backwards for women who do not respect them or the work they do, and will toss them aside if they feel another man can provide her with more luxuries. Try to belittle people like me all you want, it's really the only power you have.
bweazel 3 months ago
@gwenshin The gluttons are the men who slave away buying a woman a ring who makes just as much, if not more, than they do. The gluttons are the ones that constantly keep pushing themselves to provide for a woman who no longer needs to be provided for, but still clings to her traditional benefits, and will judge a man accordingly for not fulfilling them.
I find it amusing you consider me a glutton for punishment, when clearly, I'm fed up with the double standards in Western society.
bweazel 3 months ago
@bweazel Again, I AGREE with you on this one too, but what can you do? You cannot tell people how to live their marriage or relationships, but you CAN do many things about businesses that discriminate and hold you back from getting a job that your'e qualified for.
gwenshin 3 months ago
I also should mention how classism is now acceptable in society, while racism and sexism is not. I'ts ok to discriminate someone if they don't have a car, or if they are homeless. They rarely get hired for a job, yet they need it the most. Go figure.
gwenshin 3 months ago
In all fairness policies in the past such as last hired, first fired, and other racist hiring policies necessitated things like affirmative action, now I do not agree that women should be piggy backing on that because as you and other MRAs have pointed out, women haven't been discriminated against in american history . Now do I agree with quotas for hiring minorities? NO, but checks should be in place to prevent racist hiring policies.
SLRok 3 months ago
I understand your frustration, but you are angry at the wrong people. You should be angry at the employers who discrimated against women and minorities in the past. They are the reason we have those laws in force now. If they were fair to begin with, we wouldn't have to deal with affirmative action at this time.
gwenshin 4 months ago
@gwenshin So at what point does your theory become useless anymore? At what point can women stop getting the freebies in society (even though they were never discriminated against as a group in history). At what point do you think giving men the shaft (for something they never did) is enough? I would say now. You all never deserved them, and you still do not.
Women need a huge dose of integrity, and quick, or things will get much worse.
bweazel 3 months ago
@bweazel I understand because now there are jobs that flat out tell you they do NOT hire men. (Usually sales and caregiver jobs) Ive worked at jobs like that and was told exactly that when I tried to help my son and male friends get hired at places Ive worked. Is it discrimination and illegal? Yes. Do men challenge it? Rarely. Which is why they are the ones who are getting the shaft now.
gwenshin 3 months ago
@gwenshin Your gender has every door opened to you, we have every door closed. Unlike your gender, we were raised to tough it up and not complain, you all, on the other hand, seem to know nothing but complaining. I see, so throw your integrity to the wind, and try to use government as a club against everyone and anyone who says no to you. What a sham, again, integrity. Women have zero, and these corrupt politicians enable them more each day. The self interested left will destroy this country.
bweazel 3 months ago
@bweazel I hate to break this to you, but fairness is never ititally handed out to ANYONE on a sliver platter. (except maybe for the wealthy). If you want fairness, you have to do like everyone else throughout history has done. Get out there, band together, and DEMAND it.
gwenshin 3 months ago
@gwenshin You're not breaking anything to me. Am I the one trying to use government to enforce what I consider fair? No. Mob mentality is not something that I would be a part of. "DEMAND" it, lol. Who the hell do you people think you are to demand anything of anyone else? The entitlement you people carry around is staggering.
bweazel 3 months ago
@bweazel You ARE "entitled" to fair treatment! Since when has the word "entitlement" become a bad thing? That phrase "entitlement mentallity" has been used to get people to accept unfair treatment, lower and lower wages, less and less benefits, and less and less rights.. The ONLY reason we have ANYTHING good in this country is because someone, somewhere was willing to fight and sometimes even die for things they belived in.
gwenshin 3 months ago
@gwenshin You are not entitled to anything, that's why it's become a bad thing. You WORK for what you get, there is no such thing as you just being entitled to something. You EARN things, you're not entitled. I would think that would be pretty self evident to everyone. And it should also be pretty obvious to anyone with an ounce of integrity, that if you are not working, someone else is taking care of you, even if it is indirectly through taxation and welfare distribution.
bweazel 3 months ago
@gwenshin The reason this country is what it is, is because we were the hardest workers on this planet. It has next to nothing to do with someone willing to fight and to die. It's about risk and reward. You speak of the world like an adult child. If you scream loud enough, before long, you'll get your way. That is not the world I want to grow up in. Where regardless if people are right or justified to behave a certain way, they will get their way if they keep throwing a fit. That's shameful.
bweazel 3 months ago
@gwenshin Your logic is leftist logic though. You admit it's discrimination, and instead of just scrapping the whole idea, you want people to repeat the same thing your predecessors did. You don't clean up shit by taking a fresh shit on top of the pile. You simply clean it up. Easy, eh? Sadly, the leftists idea of fixing a mistake is adding yet another mistake on top of it. If the first position is without integrity, how can you honestly say that you support men doing the same thing women did?
bweazel 3 months ago
@bweazel If it's considered "Leftist" to be willing to fight and die for what one belives is right, that would make our military leftist as well. Everything we enjoy today is because people had to fight tooth and nail for it at some point in history. If it wasnt' for "leftists" things would be FAR worse in the workplace. You think it's bad now? How about some boss threatening to fire you if you don't let him sleep with your wife for example? ""Evil leftist" laws protect you from that.
gwenshin 3 months ago
@gwenshin As soon as you'd like to get back on topic, I'd like to continue to have a conversation with you. Until then, have a nice day.
bweazel 3 months ago
NAZI (exclusion) METHOD:
"Juden verbotten" appeared on most job applications in germany. certain groups were targeted for EXCLUSION and special discrimination and oppression.
AMERICAN (inclusion) METHOD:
"women and minorities encouraged to apply" is on all of our job applications. many groups are targeted for INCLUSION in special programs of protections and benefits.
if anyone can explain to me how the RESULTS of either of these policies arrive at different ends, i would love to hear it.
knowthingman 5 months ago
I noticed seeing a Now Hiring poster that says "Equal opportunity & Affirmative Action employer" when I went to the Chase bank earlier today. I thought it was pretty contradictory as well as unfair to non-"minority" males; I'm considered to be a "minority" male but I know it's not right to be turned down or have others be favored over you based on factors out of your control (race, gender, etc) .
doomdragon83 5 months ago
9:50 "These laws are basically saying that these women and minorities can't stand on their own two feet and they need help..."
And white men foot the bill for it while we get screwed!
TheCriminal2334 5 months ago
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Oh please. White men are still the least discriminated group in society. Not everybody has equal access to every job. Unfortunately racism, sexism, and other forms of discrimination exist. Until, everybody sees that one's gender or race doesn't equal qualification for jobs, afffirmative action laws will have to be necessary in my opinion.
iluvthejobros9 5 months ago
@iluvthejobros9
That makes NO sense. If one's gender or race doesn't matter then you should be against affirmative action as it favors women and "minority" groups. How are white men the least discriminated against? If what I went through happened to a woman, it would definitely be considered discrimination. But if discrimination happens to a white male, it just gets ignored or is considered "necessary". This is what feminists do, completely ignore discrimination against men.
theignoredgender 5 months ago 13
@theignoredgender Men typically have an easier time getiing into female-dominated jobs than vice versa. I'm not saying this is always true, but more often than not it is.
iluvthejobros9 4 months ago
@iluvthejobros9
If a job is female-dominated then it's because: men aren't interested in that particular job, or the business prefers to hire women, or maybe more women were better for the job than men. But men have no advantage into getting any job because of his gender, if anything his gender puts him at a disadvantage. There is no affirmative action for men but there are laws and policies that favor women. How many times does this need to be said?
theignoredgender 4 months ago 8
@iluvthejobros9 "typically" = "I'm not saying this is always true, but more often than not it is." Not all men are like that! ;-)
"White men are still the least discriminated group in society." Their r co. that will not hire men & have you looked at main stream media for the last 8 years?
Wouldn't it be nice to receive, retain and even get promoted, to fill a quota with your penis. You would want to hang on to that as long as possible, huh -- Oh, sorry, I meant to say that to @theignoredgender
LJ271828 4 months ago
@iluvthejobros9 Because female dominate jobs require no real skills, hence the reason the are female dominated in the first place. If you are going to go into male dominated jobs, you need to actually be able to do the job. You need to be an above average woman with strength. Most women are not suited to do construction work, mining, security work, etc. You would be a burden.
How about you stop shaking your fist at the universe and just accept what it dealt you. Stop taking it out on us.
bweazel 3 months ago
@iluvthejobros9 Furthermore, women refuse to go into science, engineering, math, or anything that requires logical thinking or crunching numbers. Women are nonexistent in these fields due to their own selfish choices. They realize they don't need to try that hard, and they don't. They would much rather crowd into classes dealing in sociology, psych, etc. Jobs which have no real value to society, but are jobs that offer them even more flexibility. Own up to your genders choices, please.
bweazel 3 months ago
@theignoredgender I'm sorry you had to go through what you did. Companies wouldn't have to worry about hiring diverse employers once everyone realizes that gender or race aren't factors in doing a job well.
iluvthejobros9 4 months ago
@iluvthejobros9
"Until, everybody sees that one's gender or race doesn't equal qualification for jobs, (gender/racial qualification) laws will have to be necessary in my opinion."
You are some sort of lunatic. White males are the most unfairly demonized group of people in Western society. Evil rich white man this, stupid white redneck that...Those words are said without any calls of prejudice. Point out stereotypes of anyone else besides white males and its called a hate crime or racism.
blakstar101 5 months ago
@iluvthejobros9
Are you for affirmative action for men in all jobs where men are numerically underrepresented?
WhiteStar11111 5 months ago
@iluvthejobros9 Affirmative action laws themselves are racist and sexist because they essentially say, "Without government assistance, women and minorities could never compete with white males." As a black man, I happen to think that women and minorities are completely capable of accomplishing great things on their own, and that these laws are an insult. By supporting affirmative action laws, you're supporting racism and sexism, and acknowledging that white males are intrinsically superior.
DartmouthAlum96 4 months ago
@iluvthejobros9
Um, are you kidding? Females as a whole are protected beyond their own wildest dreams; they literally don't have to take responsibility for anything they do anymore. As far as the race thing is considered, yes there are still instances where the white person has an advantage against a minority but for the most part, white men are encouraged to shut the fuck up while women and minorities walk all over us and if we make a peep about it, we're called racists.
DoItYouWont100 3 months ago in playlist More videos from theignoredgender
@DoItYouWont100 Are you kidding? Women have to work twice as hard as men to get recognition in jobs and constantly have to prove themselves. This society is made by men for men.
iluvthejobros9 3 months ago
@iluvthejobros9
Affirmative action certainly does not favor men, there are laws that protect women only but no laws protecting men only, men do not get freebies and discounts for being men unlike women, violence and sexism against men is considered funny/entertaining, yet only women can play the "victim card". It's really insulting that you say this society is "for men".
theignoredgender 3 months ago
@iluvthejobros9 Thank you for displaying what it is like to live without the vast majority of your brain cell functioning. You have blythly ignored any bit of reason or logic put to you and continued to sprout retoric and incongruent diatribe. You will fit well into feminism.
Yakenjokin 3 months ago
@iluvthejobros9
Pick up a law book and actually look through it and you'll see that everything you just said is a blatant lie. There are dozens of laws that protect women during the divorce process and the DV department not to mention your reproduction rights. Sorry ma'am, but you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, so stop pretending you do.
DoItYouWont100 3 months ago
@iluvthejobros9 This society is made by men, for women. Always has been, most likely always will be. Women are still pampered by society, even more so since feminism has shown up. You all are treated like grown children. You have plenty of legislated benefits that men do not have access to, or the rare occasion they do, they do not benefit from them due to discrimination.
In this world, women are human beings, men are human doings. Open your eyes and cut the bullshit, please.
bweazel 3 months ago
@iluvthejobros9
Utter nonsense. This culture is a matriarchy with the trappings of patriarchy. Everything is bearing geared towards and for women---everyone else (even children) are second rate. Women are privilidged in this society on many fronts and even take advantage of double standards that will favor them (such as postive discrimation).
Wytchfinde 3 months ago
@iluvthejobros9 A place of employment can blatantly specify" NO MALES "for jobs, with no worries about any legal action taken against them. Especially if it involves taking care of children, or the elderly. As if men are all brutes that are incapable of being able to take care of the weak and sick. I also see this in sales jobs because women are more likely to produce sales for companies than men are. Why? Because both men and women tend to trust women more.
gwenshin 3 months ago
NO ONE is seeking "Equal Outcomes".
Why on Earth do people keep making that false claim?
WhiteStar11111 5 months ago
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TheCriminal2334 5 months ago
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@WhiteStar11111
"NO ONE is seeking "Equal Outcomes". Why on Earth do people keep making that false claim?"
Are you fucking ignorant?? Affirmative Action = Equal Outcomes. Employers have QUOTAS to meet with hiring regarding minorities and women (white men not included!). How the fuck is that not Equal Outcomes?
TheCriminal2334 5 months ago
@TheCriminal2334
Sigh.
I'll put this in the smallest possible words for you.
Affirmative Action, and related policies which go under various names like "gender equity", are not in the slightest about "equal outcomes".
Instead, they are specifically about preferential treatment in hiring, retention, and promotion for women (primarily) and non-Caucasian men (secondarily).
Those policies are not to institute numerical equality, but to institute numerical superiority:
NON-equal outcomes.
WhiteStar11111 5 months ago
@WhiteStar11111 We're on the same team. I apologize.
Fuckin' friendly fire......
TheCriminal2334 5 months ago
lmao at boopa, I wish some people would look outside womens studies and get some actual facts.
Dobogio 5 months ago
While job hunting last year, websites of companies that I applied for jobs had the a section on 'Policies' that described how the company enforced "equality" and did not tolerate "discrimination". In the section on 'Benefits', some of the benefits listed were things like women-only scholarships and women-only education programs.
At my current job in the "Policies" guidelines is a list of what counts as "discrimination". In what does not count it has, "Affirmative action is not discrimination".
ColonelCosmic 7 months ago
fuck liberal policies and fuck tis minority multiculturalsim bullshit!
white men are getting screwed, they give all of these advantages to other races and women, and there is no reason to do this anymore. Mainly because white men are no longer the "majority."
Why should we give away our power to these fucking minorities when we are getting screwed over. Letys take our power back!
FlankerVT 11 months ago
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it's sexist because women and minorities are at a disadvantage. the only privileged class are while males. It's been proven time and time again that women are less well paid for the same positions men hold, and the "glass ceiling" and boys club still exist, especially in the financial industry. Did you know that women are paid 75 cents for every dollar a man is paid? You probably didn't get the job maybe because you weren't qualified enough, not because you're a white male.
BoopaDooP2252 1 year ago
@BoopaDooP2252
How are white males privileged?
My comments still are not sexist, I never said that women and minorities were inferior.
Men typically get paid more because they usually work longer hours, take fewer days off, do more dangerous jobs, are more willing to travel and take risks. It's rare that ANY 2 people doing the same job get paid the same. It depends on so many other factors.
Wasn't qualified enough? Did you actually watch the entire video?
theignoredgender 1 year ago 9
@BoopaDooP2252
How are women and minorities at a disadvantage when they are the ones who are given extra ENCOURAGEMENT to apply and end up getting the job? If white males were encouraged to apply and they got the job, I bet you would consider that to be discrimination. What I went through is the exact same scenario.
theignoredgender 1 year ago 17
@BoopaDooP2252 I call bullshit. White WOMEN are the most privileged group of people ever -- throughout the entire course of human history, no other group has been so privileged as white women.
TheCriminal2334 5 months ago
@BoopaDooP2252
"women and minorities are at a disadvantage" why? how? it is YOUR propaganda that constantly reminds us that we are all equal, but now these groups are inherently disadvantaged?! you talk about the glass ceiling, but never the GLASS BASEMENT. apparently its ok with you that men also do all of the WORST jobs that women arent interested in "breaking into". you assume an unofficial bias for men and then propose to correct that with an OFFICIAL bias for women and minorities.
EVIL
knowthingman 5 months ago 3
@BoopaDooP2252 And how many women are clamoring to get into the "glass cellar" jobs? Let's encourage women to collect garbage, work in waste water treatment, clean the sewer, construction; you know, all those jobs Mike Rowe does.
"Did you know that women are paid 75 cents for every dollar a man is paid?" is derived from only examining the outcome, not the hours worked, that the positions are the same, or accepted salary packages. Choices lead to the discrepancy. The wage gap is a myth.
LJ271828 4 months ago
@BoopaDooP2252 And how many women are clamoring to get into the "glass cellar" jobs? Let's encourage women to collect garbage, work in waste water treatment, clean the sewer, construction; you know, all those jobs Mike Rowe does.
"Did you know that women are paid 75 cents for every dollar a man is paid?" is derived from only examining the outcome, not the hours worked, that the positions are the same, or accepted salary packages. Choices lead to the discrepancy. The wage gap is a myth.
LJ271828 4 months ago
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are you kidding me? this is the worst take on discrimination that I've ever seen. Your comments are extremely sexist. You should probably read up on the facts that not every race,class, or gender have equal opportunities to apply for certain jobs. So your "analysis" that probably more men or women are interested in a particular job is completely ridiculous. I can't believe that someone like you is teaching our youth.
BoopaDooP2252 1 year ago
@BoopaDooP2252
How is what I said sexist?
Yes, you are right not every race, class, or gender have equal opportunities. In particular, white males. As I have shown in my video clearly women and minorities were encouraged to apply and they ended up getting the job even though they had no experience there but I had for 3 years and I didn't get the job. Affirmative Action is just legal discrimination. Why is it so hard to believe that I'm teaching? My students certainly like how I teach.
theignoredgender 1 year ago 13
instead of them "encouraging minorities to apply" they should say something like "we encourage ALL genders and ALL racial groups to apply"...
i dont like this black, Hispanic, female quota system and im hispanic
themaniusedtob 1 year ago 4
Oh I see you made a follow up, forget my previous comment.
ManSpeakOut 1 year ago
I am curious how did that turn out with the attorney?
ManSpeakOut 1 year ago
This is why I am against affirmative action.
The only thing that should matter when selecting among the candidates is skill and expierence alone.
You get to choose how skilled you are going to be a particular field, but you don't get to choose who you are born as. Why should you or I be punished for being men?
Giving anyone (including women and blacks or any other race.) preferential treatment IS discrimination.
Skill and experience is the only thing that should matter, plain and simple.
ManSpeakOut 1 year ago 4
Thank you for making this video.
This is something I have expressed for years.
I am a Hispanic male and believe that favoring a group over another is against the very nature of equal rights.
In the nypd women get selected for the job without having to equally perform in physical tests to earn the job. same goes for a firefighter, army etc.
Feminist dont want equal opportunity they want equal outcome.
themaniusedtob 1 year ago
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themaniusedtob 1 year ago
Excellent analysis my friend. Well met! I wish i had as good a head on my shoulders as you did when i was in college.
pinegrove33 1 year ago 9
I worked as an istitutional researcher in higher education for several years and I am intimately familliar with this kind of bullshit. This especialy goes on in enrollment and grant allocation that are geared towards "gender equality" and "diversity." It is actualy about putting men at a disadvantage. It is a war on male students. Look at my article in MND called The Marvelous Mr Murphy and Other Anecdotes From my Education"
roharatube 1 year ago 7
@roharatube
I read it and commented on it. That type of shit really makes me sick and it needs to be brought out to the public's attention. More people should stand up against this gynocracy. I admire you for doing that. If an institution fires you for standing up for what's right then that was really no place to be working in the first place.
theignoredgender 1 year ago 6
@theignoredgender
I was fired because my manager sabotoged my work and said awfull things about me to the directors behind my back. She altered my employment records to indicate that my performance wasn't satisfactory, shitmouthed me to everyone in the local IR association so I couldn't get a job and then plagerized my work. She had a sign abover her desk that said: If a man hears a tree fall and a woman isn't around to hear it did it realy happen?" A true piece of work that one.
roharatube 1 year ago 4
Whites have become a minority in this country. I am a person of "minority'. I am of Hispanic descent, and I know where you are coming from. All this "diverse" multiculturalism is a sham because men and even women from all different backgrounds feel the sting one way or another. Feminism has done nothing productive for society in general and many women have no choices in reality because they are forced to do what feminism tells them to do under the pretense of "equality" and "independence".
SimplyRich2060 1 year ago 3