Lobo Got Help From the Globolis we see the same thig here in the usa ...for the next step according to their agenda preparense y disperten de esta CORRUPTION
This is ridiculous sir, I am sorry to inform you that we live in a 3rd world country. It might be outrageous for you to understand how things work, I invite you to read our Constitution, you need to understand why things happened the way they did. You should also read the UNDP yearly reports. It would have been easier for you to understand what has happened if you had taken the time to talk with educated hondurans (such as college teachers) rather than going Sherlock Holme's on it.
chepsoki: Remind condorito that although he likes to say National Heroe Roberto Micheletti s a murderer, he forgets that under zelayas administration there were 8 ex-memebers of the death squads from the 80s, One being the minister of security. Remind hi that during zelayas dictatorship crime rose out of control, and that during his administration the transparency index for honduras went up in other words a more corrupt government then Maduros administration.
You havent answered any of my factual statements not mine nor chepsoki'. The only way you know how to defend yourself is by repeating radical statements short on proof and stated as if they were facts. No wonder a moron like yourself would actually take a second rate news media such as "therealnews" seriously.
chepsoki: He cant agree because like i said before he is more interested in promoting stupid failed ileology rather then the truth. condidoportinari world is upside down just like all radicals. Zelaya tried to stay in power and rob us Hondurans of our constitutional rights, while our national heroe Roberto Micheletti defended our constitutional right elect a new president every 4 years.
I can't agree because I know very well the people like you, and all the damage they have made to Latin America through the history. I guess you're just a middling spoiled little baby suckled with fig milk. You only repeat what your wealthy right-wing papá told you. I know very well all your arguments, but they fall when face the evidence, because you're ridiculously trying to deny that your country lives under a bloody dictatorship which ILLEGALY overthrew the constitutional president
......two days before the elections the radio anchor had said that they will be going of the air in protest of the elections, something the "realnews" reports as if it was closed by the government. Now as far as globo i dont blame them there just doig there job considering that they were payed a large amount to promote zelayas 4th ballot....look if up you can find the checked that was signed over to them using government funds illegally.
Regarding your false acusations of the closing of media, radio globo was temporarly shut down for advocating the death of jews, and promoting hitler as a heroe. They asked the people to take it out on jews. Secondly there are false information especially from "therealnews" that says the closing of media during the elections, when in reality thats not true. .........
If Micheletti and his buddies have nothing to hide.. why did they fake a letter where it says Zelaya resigns? Why exile Zelaya? During the coup the only TV and Radio channels on the air were those who supported Micheletti.. because everyone else who spoke out was shut down. Why if they're doing the "right" thing and fighting for "democracy" do they have to do that??? and come up with a better response like "you have to be there" "Realhonduras" stop youre basically supporting murder and oppresion
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it is amazing to me that the hondurans are being criticized for not letting a totalitarian goverment take them over , I want to congratulate them for standing up against the totalitarian attemp of zelaya. I hope other countries do the same ...
A lightly reformist ? is like calling me a sligthly asshole, i am an asshole period. Are you a fucking shit for brains? and you talk like all elitist that think that the rest of us are not informed enough to know that shit is shit . You cannot identify whats wrong because your head is up your ass.Zelaya lost because he wanted to be king of Honduras, someone figure it out that if they will allow him to start the same thing as cuba no one will be free and the only rich one will be Zelaya.
3) Hondurans are not being criticized, it is the de facto government and its coup-laundering-fraudulent-elections which are being criticized by those who remember all the US-backed-plutocrat genocidal-coups in Latin America.
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honduran were smart enough to see the writing on the wall , zelaya was using the same tricks as Fidel ,and Chavez and he got caught. If the honduran people have not done this they will have the same as in venezuela and Cuba .They will have been under the control of a totalitarian goverment and cubans running their goverment . i just hope the venezuelans get some guts and do the same thing , we dont need more for life presidents that cant be voted out when the people dont like them
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You have to be blind if you didnt see that Zelaya was trying to be a totalitarian government, it is funny that here is no criticism when chavez elections had rampant fraud and none of this people that talk against Honduras said a word. It is funny how they only quote left wing organizations that hide the agenda of communism
"Cubans running the government", that's the same old shitty lie that the right-wing and the US have used through the history for not to lose their privileges and so to continue governing the latinamerican countries by genocidal dictatorships or treacherous plutocracies which leave the people unemployed and starving.
I can make you the same question, Why when famines or killings happen in some of the few communist countries of the world, they are news and they are fault of the communist government, but when famines or killings are daily in the most third world countries they are not news and they are shown by the cons as the result of the own hungry-third-world-people's failure and not as a capitalism's fault?
that why the world is fucked up, i dont condone any side , i think that somewhere in the middle its a better way , i believe that a system that is so centralized that doesnt give the opportunity to the individual to give his best shot is not the best,. And i agree that there is famine and starvation, one of the biggest problems is that the money assigned for the poor is misused by their fat goverment leaders for their own enrichment and that is wrong too
It's what I say, when something goes wrong under socialism it's a failure of the system, but when goes wrong under capitalism it's a failure of a third-world government and the system is okay.
The biggest problem that we have in south america is corruption of our leaders,both , left and right, the people need to make a good decision to put responsible people that dont put power and their personal convenience in front of the peoples needs. One person cant do it by themselves it has to be a team effort the individual has to be asking in every aspect of the government transparency and a responsible fiscal environment for the benefit if all.
i am aware that we dont have a perfect capitalist system but anytime that the comunist?socialist agenda has been tried in a big scale has failed as an economic model. mainly because it takes the individual ability to do the out most for the benefit of all. The idea of quality is great but it is not human nature, Being compettive and try harder has been the what has taken us to a higher level. And by the way i dont believe that capitalism works all the time only mosy of the time,,,
at least we agree in something . the money factor is a big decision maker and there is sometimes a loss of human factor . And yes i can treat you with respect, bur remember is a two way street. Another thing is that yes i am kind of a gorilla, you must know with a difference of opinion, fierce and opinionated maybe as you are of your ideals But experience has proven that we are not always right and that somewhere in the middle there is a solution. It always amazes me that only you is not lying
I said you were lying because you said hondurans rebelled against Zelaya, and that they avoided a dictatorship. None of this is true, no honduran rebelled against Zelaya, they did when Zelaya was overthrown -against Micheletti-, and some right-wing hondurans also made demonstration but when Zelaya was already overthrown. And there wasn't to be any dictatorship with Zelaya, the only dictatorships in Honduras where the US-backed banana ones, and no wealthy-old-bitch protested for that.
@condidoportinari : Your full of it, Hondurans came out to the streets in massive numbers to support the constitutional government of Micheletti, there where marches reaching over 100,000 in cities like ceiba, san pedro, teguz, plus thousands more in copan, sigua, roatan, tela, and so on. The largest pro-zelaya march barely reached 30 k. Plus remember the massive marches against zelaya in 2008 people asking for peace.
Zelaya never kill anybody. Micheletti and his UNCONSTITUTIONAL regime have killed many people who went out to defend Zelaya. Hondurans have been resisting against the dictatorship through months, althoug they have been being sistematically killed.
What "peace" do you say people opposed to Zelaya wanted? The assasin dictatorship they helped to build? They protested because they were pathetic oligarchs who saw their privileges tremble, and never reunited more than 3000 people.
@condidoportinari : are you in Honduras or are you just a propagandist?? What people did Micheletti kill?? Don't tell me you fell for that "rivers of blood" crap?? Maybe if you were in Honduras you would know a little more then the lies you are spreading. The "resistance" has attacked citiznes, burned buses, attacked children going to school, burned retsaurants, and have killed .people (fault zelaya muerte o restitucion") .... look up Karol Cabrera see what you find.
Come on, stop lying, man, you know well that the slogan "restitución o muerte" means the death of themselves, not a death threat to others. You say the resistance (it's to say, the majority of the poor people of Honduras) has attacked "citizens": aren't THEY citizens too? You make me laugh, you say they burned restaurants: I don't think they have burned MANY restaurants, most probably it was burned just ONE (and you maximize it) during the violent maelstrom following the coup.
condidoportinari : So its okay when an ex-president yells to the crowd " restitution or death" ...thats open to interpertation and doesn mean death to themselves. Especiall when you yell it to a group of radicals, the "resistance" has never been peaceful people. Now you try to down play the attacks the resistance did. they burned MANY restaurants not just one, including breaking into a bank attacking children, violantly attacking a senir citizen, placing bombs thats just scratching the surface
Restitution or death, it's obvious, just like "fatherland or death", "freedom or death", "socialism or death", it means the sacrifice or ourselves for an objective, it means: "or we are free, or we die". La Pasionaria said "it's better to die on feet than to live on knees", "patria o muerte" is the slogan of every libetration movement since the "spring of peoples". Some prefer to mislead its real mean to difamate, but they just make laugh.
@condidoportinari : OK i just find it odd that while you advocate freedom and democracy, what motivates you are words like "restitution or death" , "socialism or death" , while the 80% of peaceful pro democracy anti-zelaya people of Honduras use words like "peace, progress, and life"
You know well that who use the words "peace, pregress and life" are just hipocrite nasty old rich bitches who go out with banners supporting a pathetic oligarch regime. They say "peace" and they mean "don't allow those poors to reduce our privilegies", they say "progress" and they mean progress of their own fortunes and hunger and banana monoculture for the country, they say "life" but they are supporting an assasine regime only because it protects their privilegies.
I can tell your more interested in promoting an ideology rather then moving the truth, it looks to me like youve been watching the chavez channel too long. Those that promote progress and democracy are the same people that are willing to work for what they have including rich, middle and working class. we are all equal in a democracy unlike those dictatorships that promote hate towards monority groups while at the same time making the situation worse for the poor and blaming it on some one else.
Those who really advocate for peace, progress and life are those of the resistance who are fighting for life because the government has set a war against them, they are fighting for progress because they are defending the economic independence of the country and the development of its industry for the creation of employement. Before Zelaya Honduras had neither a miserable job protection law, he capped rents, and that's why the people support him, because he's the only alternative.
You seem to advocate a lot for zelaya as a saint. When the reallity is he was a crook, a criminal, and a dictator. You seem to forget him admitting to winning the electons with fraud, or the money he stole from the central bank, the pure breed expensive horses he had. He loved to blame the "oligarchs" while he himself coming from a rich family that massacred actavists in his ranch. his main supporter "los rosenthal" one of the richest families in Honduras that have stolen from the people.
I don't advocate for nobody as a saint, YOU advocate for Micheletti as a saint when he is a real dictator who made a coup and killed people. Everybody who deny that fact is absolutely MAD. YOU seem to have seen much propaganda from your fucking government. Calling it "democratic" and "constitutional" is a very symptom of madness or evilness. Defending the murder of people fighting for their freedom is evil.
condidoportinari: Are you stupid or something, really do you have a mental problem or are you just an extrimist?? RealHonduras. pointed out facts and you come back with this stupid shit of a reply something with no basis my 12 year old cousin can argue better then you.
condidoportinari : You want to talk about people dying?? fine let me educate you. Since zelaya took office not only was his minister of security an ex death scuad member but crime took off in Honduras, something the maduro administration had almost dropped to zero. .......
It was DURING the Maduro administration when the death squads who kill poor boys were created. It's an everyday in Central America, it is not something new. Very poor banana coutries where death is present every day. The military in banana republics were always murderers without shame. And I repeat: What is more violent? To treat with shooting down a plane and placing military vehicles on the runway, or an unarmed crowd who defend against that madness?
condidoportinari: Pathetic weak arguement by a pathetic radical. You have no clue about Honduras and that is soo obvious. Death squads during Maduro administration??? Wow, youve gone mad, yet you dont deny the fact that 9 ex- death squad members from the 80's served under the dictator zelayas administration./ You dont deny the facts that the terrorisdt group "resistencia" is murdering children and honest working hondurans. You lack facts and are full of radical statements that make no sense.
"80% of the population supporting the dictatorship", YOU must be mad, one half of the population didn't vote. Well, what can I hope from a pathetic banana dictatorship, sure that there the only who have internet are the few 100 oligarch supporters of the murderer dictatorship, and they have free play to spread their ridiculous lies and their fanatism.
Oh now im an oligarch? I love how you pretend to know everything, even who i am or how ive lived, thats just more of that radical extremist stupidity youve been tought, i love how you prove my point. You lack proof and are only motivated by a false ideology that only appeal to the weak minded like you.
.......during zelayas 3 1/2 years there were many murders, including the murders of reporters, laywers, judges, and many kiddnappings". It had gotten so out of control that in 2008 there were multiple marches reaching numbers greater then 100,000 pleading to zelaya to do something about crime. Even those marches were much larger then the few zelaya supporters. Why didnt you advocate for human rioghts back then? ........
.......Since your a radical not in Honduras you think you can talk about right and wrong when you have no idea how much Hondurans suffered under zelayas dictatorship. Secondly, if you want to put the blame on somebody why dont you do it to the extremist zelaya who asked his supporters to revolt and to die for him. You see in every country there are idiots who are radicals,.......
.......but the rest of us in Honduras the 80% of the people know that Micheletti defended our rightas from those terrorist that where attacking innocent people in the streets.
People wanted to take the airport because it had been blocked by an illegitimate dictatorship.What is more violent? To treat with shooting down a plane and placing military vehicles on the runway, or an unarmed crowd who defend against that madness?
@condidoportinari : As far as "illegagitimate dictatorship" ,well tell that to the majority of the honduran people im sure most wont agree with you. If your so conserned with human rights and the deaths of innocent, why dont you cry justice for whats going on now??? ....
.......Just a couple of days ago the terrorist group "resistencia" tried to murder another reporter , the killed one and the other got away. What about whats going on in Colon? How come you dont say anything about that? .......
.....A group of communist took over some ranches..... murdered a 13 year old child. They have killed 12 guards and left 12,000 people without work. But according to you ideologist extrimist the 100 or so communist murderers are more important then the 12,000 democratic people and the children murdered. Why dont you say anything about that
"a group of communists" you look so ridiculous saying something like that. It's the same fucking shit that all the yankees and oligarchs have used to protect their interests en Latin America. Don't annoy me again, you moron, good bye.
condidoportinari: You have no arguement and have continued to ignore my factual statements, like i said extremist idiots like you need no facts. No wonder you can't understand how the majority of us Hondurans feel, even your poor mentality comes out when you write, i really believe that both the 80% pro-democracy and the 20% pro-zelaya population would agree that your a moron by continously defending your lack of arguement by calling us banana republic.
So, can you prove that Honduras is not a Banana Republic? Did you know that the term "banana republic" was first coined to describe Honduras? Can you prove that there hasn't been any coup d'etat? Can you prove that Micheletti didn't kill anybody? Can you prove your statement that 80% of Hondurans are pro-coup? Can you prove that the electoral court didn't make fraud? THIS is factual evidence.
jajajaj, of course you would say something stupid and backwards as this. Wouldnt yoU have to prove your false accusations, rather then me prove what is already widely known and supported in Honduras? Remember your the one on the outside with the false acussations. But then again i couldnt expect anything better from an extrimist. Your the kind of people that believe everything your told and start radical witch hunts against innocent people.
REALHONDURAS: Lets humor condorito with accurate facts,
1. coup? There have been only two independente studies abouyt the legal ouster of the dictator zelaya..... both found that zelaya was legally removed from office based on the Honduran constitution, if you dont believe me look it up on was the library of congress U.S. and the other was a firm contracted by the U.N. also found legal the removal of zelaya, the second wasnt publish but the U.N. made a statement in regards to this.
micheletti killed people? well in a legal democratic system your innocent untill proven guilty, so it would be up to you to prove he killed people not me to prove he didnt. But i understand that in your radical mind false accusations are just as important as facts as long as it suits your interest. But for this it would have to be taken up in court and proved what you say is true.
3. Prove that more then 80% agree with micheletti? -Sure the marches not covered by cnn or nangara stations were much much larger then pro-zelaya, All questionares by independent internatonal news media showed that support for zelaya ranged around 80%. Second i forget the name but a statistical firm from costa rica the largest and most reliable in latin america showed that around 82% of Hondurans wanted the elections held in November. Once again your job to look it up.
4. Can you prove that the electoral court didn't make fraud?
1. Sure look at my videos , the turn out for the 2009 elections were massive in comparison to previews elections. Even though the last couple of elections showed a decent in voters per election the last one actually increased. Now you would have to prove turn out was little. Most international agencies concluded that the HOnduran elections were extremely transparent. Even zelaya said that he couldnt prove the elections were a fraud.
"Most international agencies concluded that the HOnduran elections were extremely transparent"
Seeing as all of them (the reliable ones: Carter Centre, UN, EU)refused to monitor those elections, that conclusion appears to have come from the same place as the invented "62%" participation figure.
Nicos: Hello Nico, you are right to some extent the more traditional observers did not participate. They declined considering that the legal government of Honduras was condemned not by legality but by political aspects. Its ashame, but there were many democratic organisations that did participate as oservers to the elections. The more traditional by refusing to participate they also negate any ability for them to know if or if not transparent elections........
I checked on grounds for refusing to participate. I found this for Carter Center: "The delegation expresses concern that the irregular situation in Honduras could diminish the full validity of the electoral rights of the candidates who are competing and of the citizen voters. "
This is the entirety of the United Nations statement: "The Secretary-General has decided to suspend temporarily the technical assistance currently provided by the Organization to the Supreme Electoral Tribunal of Honduras. He does not believe conditions are currently in place for the holding of credible elections that would advance peace and stability. The United Nations is concerned about the current situation and allegations of human rights violations in Honduras, [continues]
[cont]"and urges adherence to international human rights treaties and conventions ratified by Honduras and respect for the inviolability of Brazils diplomatic mission in Tegucigalpa.
The Secretary-General is convinced that an end to the crisis in Honduras requires a consensual agreement and supports regional mediation efforts to that end. "
[cont]"He joins the Organization of American States and regional leaders in calling for an agreement and urges all political actors to redouble efforts to find common ground through peaceful dialogue. The United Nations stands ready to assist in this process"
EUstatement:"the European Union will not send observers to the November general election in Honduras,the scene in June of a military coup,because the conditions do not exist for the vote to be held within a framework of democracy and freedom.The commissions deputy director general for external relations,Stefano Sannino,said in an interview with Efe that the EU,like the other Latin American countries,does not acknowledge that those elections can be based in an open,free and democratic context.
........Remember some of those organizations have participated in elections in countries such as Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, and the resent ones in Nicaragua..... those same organizations claim fair and transparents elections in those countries while the majority of the political world opinion says in those countries elections have been fraudulent.
I agree that one of the unfortunate consequences of all the reliable independent observers not being there means no one can know for certain about the results. (Other than the fact the TSE announced 62% while its own internal figures showed 49%, which it later revised to once the media attention had died down and the political effect of the "62%" statement had taken place).
To recap: those organisations are the only international ones with the know-how, and the authority to actually measure elections credibly. They are THE main reliable sources for well-informed "opinion" everwhere. I didn't see anything on Cuba, but I know in the case of Bolivia and Venezuela the majority of the mainstream corporate press would claim anything against those govts., no matter how democratically elected they are, purely on grounds of political disagreement.
1. True, those organizations have their political agenda to uphold, some of those dont surprise me for instance the carter center funded by James Carter, an unpopular ex-president of the U.S. The other two organizations couldnt observe the elections considering they are governmental organizations that have to follow what the organization leans to. .....
2. The OAS took the stance of condemning the constitutional succession in Honduras by Miguel Insulza just one day after Zelayas legal removal. I personally believe this organization erodes democracy in the Americas; it gives too much power to the executive branch and weakens the separation of powers. Insulza himself after the elections confessed his mistake by not taking action before June 28th that allowed Zelaya to destabilize the country and continue to violate the Honduran constitution.
3. With Zelaya out of the picture Honduras was able to have elections considering that the constitutional government of Micheletti authorized the 2009 budget allowing funds to be appropriated to the Tribunal Supreme Electoral, something that wouldnt have been possible with Zelaya since he kept refusing to submit a 2009 budget plan thus leaving the TSE with no funds to run elections, although he did appropriate massive governmental funds to his 4ta urna.
4. As far as the U.N. well they joined in on condemning Honduras something that doesnt surprise me considering the head of the U.N. Miguel de Escoto, a Nicaraguan ex-rebel and guerilla fighter. Luckily there were many more non-traditional organizations that provided there services to the Honduran elections.
6. for instance COIMER & OP polling showed that 64% of Hondurans looked at the elections as the exit of the political crisis with a 23.8% as a no to the elections, thats a big difference considering Zelaya was advocating for the people not to vote (More proof that Zelayas intentions were not to have elections depriving Hondurans of our rights to have altefrnability of government every 4 years.)
@condidoportinari : To add on the elections... It was covered by a pro-zelaya media , were they even said that turn out was massive. Zelaya and his terrorist group couldnt discourage the Honduran population from voting in massive numbers although they tried. Zelaya asked all people not to vote (failed).
The terrorist group posted threatining messages along streets saying they will kill people that went to vote (failed)
bombs were placed in some voting stations (two went off)............
........ The zelayaistas also stole thousands of cedulas to keep people from voting. With all these contributing factors by the dictator zelaya and his terrorist group the people of honduras went out in massive numbers to vote.
@condidoportinari : Looks to me like your more pissed off at the "yanees" then for democracy in Honduras. But of course its just more proof of what the panamanian diplomat said in the OAS about communist..... for everything that happens in there life they go and through rocks at the U.S. embassy. Jaaaj what a pathetic hateful life.
.....But according to you ideologist extrimist the 100 or so communist murderers are more important then the 12,000 democratic people and the children murdered. Why dont you say anything about that?
With your absurd question of "what people did Micheletti kill" you're probably defying me, hoping that I can't give any names. Well, sorry to disappoint you, but, just like you strip me a name, I also have names, for example the 15 year boy who was the first killed by the repression in Honduras, Isy Obed Murillo. Child-killing is not new in Honduras: you have the traditional death squads created by the "Security" Ministery, who "clean the city" by killing poor boys.
condidoportinari: while the death of isy is unfortanate, he died while participating in an open riot. Whats questionable about the way he died is that during that riot the police and soldiers where shooting rubber bullets. Isy was shot in the back of the head by a gun not a rifle, when there are videos of the rioters shooting back at the police. dont forget the death of Karol Cabreras daughter a young pregnant 16 year old murdered by the resistance, the resistance murdered her and her baby.
In the airport there was jus pacific people, it's a flagrant lie to say they were shooting, and even if they did, they were resisting against an illegitimate government which sent repression, sent the army against pacific protestors, it's a shame and you defend it, the woman has also been killed by agents of the government to create a martir, and Karol Cabreras is a nasty sepoy gorilla, one of few journalists who are given the right to express themselves in Micheletti regime.
You know very well that the riot in toncontin was not peaceful, there was no repression. The military was following orders from the constitutional president micheletti to block the air strip since zelaya had no permission to enter the country, while zelaya advocaded his few followers to take the airport. The rioters showed up and started to break into the airport thats when the military fired rubber bullets to them, the rioters fired hand guns towads the military. ......
....Those people where not demonstrating peacefully and went to the airport knowingly to start a confrontation with the police and military. They were allowed to protest until they started rioting and trying to take over the airport.
As far as karol cabreras daughter an innoscent pregnant 16 year old child was brutally murdered by the terrorist group pro-zelaya. there is no justification for the murder of a child and the murder of a baby. Just becuase the terrorist group didnt like the fact that her mom was a pro constitution reporter bringing out the truth to the 80% of the population that are pro- democracy anti-zelaya.
the conservative idea is not too far from the socialist idea , being a resposible individua or goverment dont overspend the people money. And the idea that man is capable of doing more if he is motivated for the reward of a better and more prosperous life is what i think a conservative should be. The problem is the difference on opinion on how to spend the wealth. Many times we dont take the right decision thinking only in money terms, there is a human factor that sometimes is needed.
Socialism emerged in response to the terrible social injustice and unequality, poverty, and massive unemployement. You support the idea of social darwinism and Hobbes' "man is a wolf to man"... I remind you that equalitarism is not a socialist concept but a liberal concept born with French Revolution. Today liberals deny equality, they are "meritocratic" (modern way to say elitist) but they are contradicting themselves, because their original motto was "liberty, equality, fraternity".
as crazy as it sounds i agree with you ,capitalism has sometimes forgotten the idea of the fellow man , there has to be a balance , capitalism should include some kind of social support for the less fortunate , i have been one of the less fortunate. On the other hand when communism forgets the idea that the individual has the opportunity to go as far as he can he can is also wrong . Somewhere in the middle there is a balance , extremes never work ....
On my early years i thought like a socialist and really believed that that will be the way to go , after i had a job and a familiy to support and saw the behavior of some of the leaders, i saw that socialism sounds good in paper but is bad when it comes to execution . If capitalism is driven by responsible leaders should work and should benefit at the end the majority of the people. is also true that any irresposible leader will screw up any system.
Which Venezuelans? The wealthy ones who unsuccessfully attempted to overthrow him as part of a coup that would've replaced Chavez with a right wing dictator who cared nothing about the poor people! Don't believe me? I suggest you watch "The War on Democracy" for the truth. However, it might be too liberal for your liking.
@flawedbeauty82 flawedbullshit not the wealthy ones , the one that in a future may disagree and will be to late to change a totalitarian government and have to work on a daily basis to survive. The ones that want a free press and dont have it because was against Chavez. Chavez is not helping the poor he is helping himself , he is hiding the fact that he is spending the wealth in armament not on the future of Venezuela, Talking about the poor when he doesnt live that way ,Chavez is an hypocrite
It's the one they used since 1959. Before that they had their "communist threat" and the "threat" of Germans in Central America and the "Yellow Peril", you name it.
And I repeat: no honduran rebelled against the government of Zelaya, you deliberately say this trying to show that "hondurans expelled Zelaya by their own will", but it's a lie, the only hondurans who you can consider that have rebelled against Zelaya were a few old rich bitches with banners supporting the coup AFTER Zelaya was overthrown.
All your pathetic sophisms don't need to be responded. Anyone who read this will realize you're lying. Chávez doesn't need to make fraud, because he is the best president Venezuela has had in the last 100 years or more, he gave rights and dignity to the people and expelled the petrodollar-oligarchy that was ruining the country, and that's what the right-wing opposition doesn't forgive him. International observers have never reported fraud in Venezuela.
Because Left-wingers are monstrous ignoramuses, I am so ashamed and horrified that socialists have murdered 140 million people and that ignorant masses are so easily fooled, and continuously put socialists back in power.
I weep for humanity and pray that left-wingers eventually become moral and rational.
Because capitalism has killed EVEN MORE people. For a little information just read Noam Chomsky's text "Millennial visions and selective vision" part one and two. Read "Late Victorian Holocausts"... read!
condi it seems that you are a committed communist , the truth is that you forgot about killings in cuba, north korea,russia and china why do we have to read Chomsky , because he forgot these facts of the communist killers too. it always amuses me the way that the capitalism is always bad and the murdering communists are the good guys. Why dont they remember killing inocent people when communist do this, Is it selective consciousness and convinience, god is so good to talk without opposition
Likewise, Americans are now accepting responsibility for voting for the radical left-winger MaObama, who is actively destroying the American economy by dismantling the free market.
I personally apologize for Americas collective ignorance for letting this socialist leaning fascist fool American voters. I feel shame at knowing how Obamas damaging the capitalist economic engine harms humanity.
@islandmuffin : i agree with you islandmuffin, obama is too soft and has created a bunch of mess for the democracies in latin america by allowing chavez to intervene in almost every country with his petrodollars.
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The commies are now crying foul while Honduras moves ahead towards a better future, free of a Chavez wannabe. WAAA, WAAA, sob sob. Here's a nice clean hankie for you "bolivaristas" to wipe your tears with. You lost and will keep losing. Hugo is next in line to get his ass kicked.
@bishop102 in reply to your stupid message to me I tell ya that I live in Honduras, so I do know what I am talking about. It's you who doesn't know a peanut about my country, unless Zelaya payed ya to defend him and his stupid sociaclist ideas.
Zelaya wanted to stay in the presidential chair indefinitely continue plundering public money and lying to the poor, saying that everything he was doing for the poor in Honduras and blaming the United States and private enterprise for almost everything in our Country. In fact, Zelaya intended or promoted class struggle against employers in the country when private companies that provides employment to millions of Hondurans.
this video refuses to do any mention that the percent use for public matters in this and elections before, is always discounting the million or so of hondurans that live outside the country and don't get to vote,
but even if it wasn't so, last elections Zelaya won with 49%, almost the same that the video claims for Lobo,
and Zelaya got 918,669 votes while Santos (the loser) got 817.524, a not to far away number, while Lobo got more than a million
After watching this video, it makes me think just how bad it is when the media spreads a lie. It would be better that everyone was clueless than read the bad journalism that makes its way onto 'reliable' outlets like The NY Times.
Thank you RealNews for doing some good reporting here.
well honduras es muy pequeño para ser libre por eso emos sido esclavos de los yankis medios escritos y televisoras usan para estupedeser las personas niego mi patria una i mil beses
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Although the percentage does appear to have been exxaggerated, at least I am pretty sure I can say that Pepe did not buy the election as Mel did. Overall, I praise God for President Micheletti. This video is yet another in the long series of productions made by people who do not know the whole story, most of whom do not live here. I am today more proud of living in Honduras than I am of being a US citizen.
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Whom ever keeps saying this was a coup is just trying to gain simpathy for their socialist ideology making Zelaya a false martir. Supreme court is the same as in Zelayas goverment, congress is the same, public ministry and electorial court are the same, the only branch of goverment that changed was the executive branch that is hardly a coup. The president is ONLY ONE branch of goverment and surely not King Louis XIV "I am the state" Beware, this reporter is misleding purposely misleading you
Again you have 0 to say about anything specific being misleading in this video.I note you have varied from saying the video contains "lies" to saying the reporter is "purposely misleding" (sic).
Again in the video it is clearly not the reporter, but the TSE which is visibly misleading the public by fabricating figures of 61% against which,again,you have absolutely nothing to refute what is obvious to any careful viewer.
And of course, few people are as stupid as you hope they will be, not to realise that a coup is still a coup even if you "only" commit it against the president and not against ALL the public institutions -the latter of which makes sense when these institutions are complicit, as has happened repeatedly in Honduran history, including 28 June 2009.
without counting it is not just President Zelaya, but a number of his ministers who have been replaced with others who are apparently not too leftwing for the Honduran army, a spokesperson of which sacred institution stated his gang could not work with a leftwing government.
why would they recognize this fraud only because they were performed in an ¨orderly¨ way what were they expecting? a blood bath? does this makes them legitimate?
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If this jerk of Zelaya should have aligned with himself and not with scumbags like Chavez; I would probably have been in the streets fighting for his restitution but he was like his enemies, another crook. DEATH TO TURCOS, FUCKING PALESTINIANS.
When a democratically elected president is removed in a coup, the entire people is the victim, regardless of whether you agree with his or her policies: it means golpistas can remove ANY president.
No, I mean regardless of whether some like him or not, to recognise a coup against one president is to legitimise the threat of a coup against ANY president, because it is an arbitrary use of force which does not depend on an "objective" measurement of whether the president is "good" or "bad", and has no democratic basis, unlike an election, an impeachment, a trial, a mid-term referendum, for example.
I agree with you but when there are not guidelines on how to impeach a president then it becomes a complex issue to handle and it was either to put him behind bars in the central penitenciary, army barracks or expell him out of the country. We all agree the country's Constitution needs a reform. The evil forces headed by the arab(palestinians) businessmen in Honduras were the main force behind these events because they were scarred to death to lose what they have stolen to hondurans.
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What is the purpose of atacking Honduras with this misstatements? Why don't some reporters be impartial, investigate what really happend and report their findings without tampering with the evidence? What do this people win by misleading everyone about Honduras electios? This elections were the most watched in Honduras history, half of the world, Chavez, Fidel and Zelaya wanted them to fail miserably, but we Hondurans voted more than in any other time, stop trying to take this victory from us.
this is ridiculous. Brazil will not recognize this fraud. I'm proud about my government. Micheletti is just another latin american criminal doing his dirty work for the dirty and decadent american empire. Obama is a poor puppet. Latin ammerica belong to us latinamericans. here in Brazil we have a half dozen of "Michelettis" but our democracy is strong. Not this tragic joke.
Colombian vice-president Santos has just said the tragicomic farce seen above as "an example of democracy"! Sure, an example of democracy where only the business class wins is the kind he'd like to see...puaj.
Essentially, yes, it was set up to further the CIA agenda on the "aid" and "humanitarian front." Just find a search engine. (On the other hand, you may have been joking--it's hard to tell over the web...)
Entonces habria que publicar videos de cosas futuras? No entendi: las noticias no tratan siempre de cosas pasadas, por definicion? Estaria bueno que identificaras alguna de las fallas de las que hablas....
KolonelKARUNA's whole purpose on youtube is to harass and intimidate anyone who critisizes the policies and actions of the corrupt and facist Sri Lankan government. KolonelKARUNA does this by stalking anyone he considers to have a valid criticism of his beloved government and spamming all their comments with his nonsensical diatribe.
The Sri Lankan government and it's supporters do not want anyone to know the truth about what is truly happening in Sri Lanka. To learn more about the atrocities commited by the Sri Lankan government, please check out the videos in my favourites. Thanks.
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Fraud? This lies are the fraud. It does not matter if media outlets like this keep making up stuff to validate their existence. We have deciden to kick out Chavez and Zelaya. If most Hondurans spoke english, we would definetively be enraged by your lies. I know my country is hostage to both a political and economical elite, I definetively active in regecting them. But repeating Zelays's lies and impliying they are true is as bad as any crime against free people anywere. STOP MISLEADING VIEWERS.
Excellent job, if you see the TSE web, you can realize that the elections was a fraud, all of my family didnt vote because we never validate a coup in my country
Fenomenal job Jesse. You know im donating right? Merry Christmas. "La LIBERTAD nos se mendiga, se consigue con las armas en las manos", cueste lo que cueste y dure lo que dure.
Elecciones ilegales, gobierno ilegal. Deberían ir todos a un paro nacional total, aunque sea perjudicial, lo único que revertiría esta dictadura ya que si no podría haber más muertos y eso es peor.
honduras is under a capitalist dictatorship ...overthrow the fascist coup-mongers! Chavez and other south american leaders should support the Honduran resistance, it's clear these oligarchs have no regard for the democratic process.
Lobo Got Help From the Globolis we see the same thig here in the usa ...for the next step according to their agenda preparense y disperten de esta CORRUPTION
Elpescuezo24 2 weeks ago
This is ridiculous sir, I am sorry to inform you that we live in a 3rd world country. It might be outrageous for you to understand how things work, I invite you to read our Constitution, you need to understand why things happened the way they did. You should also read the UNDP yearly reports. It would have been easier for you to understand what has happened if you had taken the time to talk with educated hondurans (such as college teachers) rather than going Sherlock Holme's on it.
dontavo2 1 year ago
chepsoki: Remind condorito that although he likes to say National Heroe Roberto Micheletti s a murderer, he forgets that under zelayas administration there were 8 ex-memebers of the death squads from the 80s, One being the minister of security. Remind hi that during zelayas dictatorship crime rose out of control, and that during his administration the transparency index for honduras went up in other words a more corrupt government then Maduros administration.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
You havent answered any of my factual statements not mine nor chepsoki'. The only way you know how to defend yourself is by repeating radical statements short on proof and stated as if they were facts. No wonder a moron like yourself would actually take a second rate news media such as "therealnews" seriously.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
chepsoki: He cant agree because like i said before he is more interested in promoting stupid failed ileology rather then the truth. condidoportinari world is upside down just like all radicals. Zelaya tried to stay in power and rob us Hondurans of our constitutional rights, while our national heroe Roberto Micheletti defended our constitutional right elect a new president every 4 years.
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condidoportinari 1 year ago
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I can't agree because I know very well the people like you, and all the damage they have made to Latin America through the history. I guess you're just a middling spoiled little baby suckled with fig milk. You only repeat what your wealthy right-wing papá told you. I know very well all your arguments, but they fall when face the evidence, because you're ridiculously trying to deny that your country lives under a bloody dictatorship which ILLEGALY overthrew the constitutional president
condidoportinari 1 year ago
......two days before the elections the radio anchor had said that they will be going of the air in protest of the elections, something the "realnews" reports as if it was closed by the government. Now as far as globo i dont blame them there just doig there job considering that they were payed a large amount to promote zelayas 4th ballot....look if up you can find the checked that was signed over to them using government funds illegally.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
Regarding your false acusations of the closing of media, radio globo was temporarly shut down for advocating the death of jews, and promoting hitler as a heroe. They asked the people to take it out on jews. Secondly there are false information especially from "therealnews" that says the closing of media during the elections, when in reality thats not true. .........
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
If Micheletti and his buddies have nothing to hide.. why did they fake a letter where it says Zelaya resigns? Why exile Zelaya? During the coup the only TV and Radio channels on the air were those who supported Micheletti.. because everyone else who spoke out was shut down. Why if they're doing the "right" thing and fighting for "democracy" do they have to do that??? and come up with a better response like "you have to be there" "Realhonduras" stop youre basically supporting murder and oppresion
freeHonduras 1 year ago 17
freeHonduras: I totally agree with you. Send you a big hug.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
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it is amazing to me that the hondurans are being criticized for not letting a totalitarian goverment take them over , I want to congratulate them for standing up against the totalitarian attemp of zelaya. I hope other countries do the same ...
fish1597 1 year ago
1) Zelaya hadn't a "totalitarian government" at all, he was just a lightly reformist politician in a historical banana republic governed by oligarchy.
2) No honduran rebelled against Zelaya, he was overthrown illegally by a plutocratic Parliament and the historically genocidal honduran armed forces.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
A lightly reformist ? is like calling me a sligthly asshole, i am an asshole period. Are you a fucking shit for brains? and you talk like all elitist that think that the rest of us are not informed enough to know that shit is shit . You cannot identify whats wrong because your head is up your ass.Zelaya lost because he wanted to be king of Honduras, someone figure it out that if they will allow him to start the same thing as cuba no one will be free and the only rich one will be Zelaya.
fish1597 1 year ago
3) Hondurans are not being criticized, it is the de facto government and its coup-laundering-fraudulent-elections which are being criticized by those who remember all the US-backed-plutocrat genocidal-coups in Latin America.
condidoportinari 1 year ago 3
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honduran were smart enough to see the writing on the wall , zelaya was using the same tricks as Fidel ,and Chavez and he got caught. If the honduran people have not done this they will have the same as in venezuela and Cuba .They will have been under the control of a totalitarian goverment and cubans running their goverment . i just hope the venezuelans get some guts and do the same thing , we dont need more for life presidents that cant be voted out when the people dont like them
fish1597 1 year ago
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You have to be blind if you didnt see that Zelaya was trying to be a totalitarian government, it is funny that here is no criticism when chavez elections had rampant fraud and none of this people that talk against Honduras said a word. It is funny how they only quote left wing organizations that hide the agenda of communism
fish1597 1 year ago
"Cubans running the government", that's the same old shitty lie that the right-wing and the US have used through the history for not to lose their privileges and so to continue governing the latinamerican countries by genocidal dictatorships or treacherous plutocracies which leave the people unemployed and starving.
condidoportinari 1 year ago 4
no condi reality , ask the venezuelans, you need to wise up , is just that you are a bleeding ass cominist that cant see straight
fish1597 1 year ago
I can make you the same question, Why when famines or killings happen in some of the few communist countries of the world, they are news and they are fault of the communist government, but when famines or killings are daily in the most third world countries they are not news and they are shown by the cons as the result of the own hungry-third-world-people's failure and not as a capitalism's fault?
condidoportinari 1 year ago
that why the world is fucked up, i dont condone any side , i think that somewhere in the middle its a better way , i believe that a system that is so centralized that doesnt give the opportunity to the individual to give his best shot is not the best,. And i agree that there is famine and starvation, one of the biggest problems is that the money assigned for the poor is misused by their fat goverment leaders for their own enrichment and that is wrong too
fish1597 1 year ago
It's what I say, when something goes wrong under socialism it's a failure of the system, but when goes wrong under capitalism it's a failure of a third-world government and the system is okay.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
The biggest problem that we have in south america is corruption of our leaders,both , left and right, the people need to make a good decision to put responsible people that dont put power and their personal convenience in front of the peoples needs. One person cant do it by themselves it has to be a team effort the individual has to be asking in every aspect of the government transparency and a responsible fiscal environment for the benefit if all.
fish1597 1 year ago
i am aware that we dont have a perfect capitalist system but anytime that the comunist?socialist agenda has been tried in a big scale has failed as an economic model. mainly because it takes the individual ability to do the out most for the benefit of all. The idea of quality is great but it is not human nature, Being compettive and try harder has been the what has taken us to a higher level. And by the way i dont believe that capitalism works all the time only mosy of the time,,,
fish1597 1 year ago
I do not condone death nor starvation, come this from a communist or capitalist system... can you say the same on yourself?
And treat me with respect, you fucking sepoy gorilla, that I'm answering to you with reasons, not with slights, lies and fallacies like you do.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
at least we agree in something . the money factor is a big decision maker and there is sometimes a loss of human factor . And yes i can treat you with respect, bur remember is a two way street. Another thing is that yes i am kind of a gorilla, you must know with a difference of opinion, fierce and opinionated maybe as you are of your ideals But experience has proven that we are not always right and that somewhere in the middle there is a solution. It always amazes me that only you is not lying
fish1597 1 year ago
I said you were lying because you said hondurans rebelled against Zelaya, and that they avoided a dictatorship. None of this is true, no honduran rebelled against Zelaya, they did when Zelaya was overthrown -against Micheletti-, and some right-wing hondurans also made demonstration but when Zelaya was already overthrown. And there wasn't to be any dictatorship with Zelaya, the only dictatorships in Honduras where the US-backed banana ones, and no wealthy-old-bitch protested for that.
condidoportinari 1 year ago 2
@condidoportinari : Your full of it, Hondurans came out to the streets in massive numbers to support the constitutional government of Micheletti, there where marches reaching over 100,000 in cities like ceiba, san pedro, teguz, plus thousands more in copan, sigua, roatan, tela, and so on. The largest pro-zelaya march barely reached 30 k. Plus remember the massive marches against zelaya in 2008 people asking for peace.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
Zelaya never kill anybody. Micheletti and his UNCONSTITUTIONAL regime have killed many people who went out to defend Zelaya. Hondurans have been resisting against the dictatorship through months, althoug they have been being sistematically killed.
What "peace" do you say people opposed to Zelaya wanted? The assasin dictatorship they helped to build? They protested because they were pathetic oligarchs who saw their privileges tremble, and never reunited more than 3000 people.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
@condidoportinari : are you in Honduras or are you just a propagandist?? What people did Micheletti kill?? Don't tell me you fell for that "rivers of blood" crap?? Maybe if you were in Honduras you would know a little more then the lies you are spreading. The "resistance" has attacked citiznes, burned buses, attacked children going to school, burned retsaurants, and have killed .people (fault zelaya muerte o restitucion") .... look up Karol Cabrera see what you find.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
Come on, stop lying, man, you know well that the slogan "restitución o muerte" means the death of themselves, not a death threat to others. You say the resistance (it's to say, the majority of the poor people of Honduras) has attacked "citizens": aren't THEY citizens too? You make me laugh, you say they burned restaurants: I don't think they have burned MANY restaurants, most probably it was burned just ONE (and you maximize it) during the violent maelstrom following the coup.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
condidoportinari : So its okay when an ex-president yells to the crowd " restitution or death" ...thats open to interpertation and doesn mean death to themselves. Especiall when you yell it to a group of radicals, the "resistance" has never been peaceful people. Now you try to down play the attacks the resistance did. they burned MANY restaurants not just one, including breaking into a bank attacking children, violantly attacking a senir citizen, placing bombs thats just scratching the surface
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
Restitution or death, it's obvious, just like "fatherland or death", "freedom or death", "socialism or death", it means the sacrifice or ourselves for an objective, it means: "or we are free, or we die". La Pasionaria said "it's better to die on feet than to live on knees", "patria o muerte" is the slogan of every libetration movement since the "spring of peoples". Some prefer to mislead its real mean to difamate, but they just make laugh.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
@condidoportinari : OK i just find it odd that while you advocate freedom and democracy, what motivates you are words like "restitution or death" , "socialism or death" , while the 80% of peaceful pro democracy anti-zelaya people of Honduras use words like "peace, progress, and life"
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
You know well that who use the words "peace, pregress and life" are just hipocrite nasty old rich bitches who go out with banners supporting a pathetic oligarch regime. They say "peace" and they mean "don't allow those poors to reduce our privilegies", they say "progress" and they mean progress of their own fortunes and hunger and banana monoculture for the country, they say "life" but they are supporting an assasine regime only because it protects their privilegies.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
I can tell your more interested in promoting an ideology rather then moving the truth, it looks to me like youve been watching the chavez channel too long. Those that promote progress and democracy are the same people that are willing to work for what they have including rich, middle and working class. we are all equal in a democracy unlike those dictatorships that promote hate towards monority groups while at the same time making the situation worse for the poor and blaming it on some one else.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
Those who really advocate for peace, progress and life are those of the resistance who are fighting for life because the government has set a war against them, they are fighting for progress because they are defending the economic independence of the country and the development of its industry for the creation of employement. Before Zelaya Honduras had neither a miserable job protection law, he capped rents, and that's why the people support him, because he's the only alternative.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
You seem to advocate a lot for zelaya as a saint. When the reallity is he was a crook, a criminal, and a dictator. You seem to forget him admitting to winning the electons with fraud, or the money he stole from the central bank, the pure breed expensive horses he had. He loved to blame the "oligarchs" while he himself coming from a rich family that massacred actavists in his ranch. his main supporter "los rosenthal" one of the richest families in Honduras that have stolen from the people.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
I don't advocate for nobody as a saint, YOU advocate for Micheletti as a saint when he is a real dictator who made a coup and killed people. Everybody who deny that fact is absolutely MAD. YOU seem to have seen much propaganda from your fucking government. Calling it "democratic" and "constitutional" is a very symptom of madness or evilness. Defending the murder of people fighting for their freedom is evil.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
condidoportinari: Are you stupid or something, really do you have a mental problem or are you just an extrimist?? RealHonduras. pointed out facts and you come back with this stupid shit of a reply something with no basis my 12 year old cousin can argue better then you.
chepsoki 1 year ago
condidoportinari : You want to talk about people dying?? fine let me educate you. Since zelaya took office not only was his minister of security an ex death scuad member but crime took off in Honduras, something the maduro administration had almost dropped to zero. .......
chepsoki 1 year ago
It was DURING the Maduro administration when the death squads who kill poor boys were created. It's an everyday in Central America, it is not something new. Very poor banana coutries where death is present every day. The military in banana republics were always murderers without shame. And I repeat: What is more violent? To treat with shooting down a plane and placing military vehicles on the runway, or an unarmed crowd who defend against that madness?
condidoportinari 1 year ago
condidoportinari: Pathetic weak arguement by a pathetic radical. You have no clue about Honduras and that is soo obvious. Death squads during Maduro administration??? Wow, youve gone mad, yet you dont deny the fact that 9 ex- death squad members from the 80's served under the dictator zelayas administration./ You dont deny the facts that the terrorisdt group "resistencia" is murdering children and honest working hondurans. You lack facts and are full of radical statements that make no sense.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
"80% of the population supporting the dictatorship", YOU must be mad, one half of the population didn't vote. Well, what can I hope from a pathetic banana dictatorship, sure that there the only who have internet are the few 100 oligarch supporters of the murderer dictatorship, and they have free play to spread their ridiculous lies and their fanatism.
Good bye
condidoportinari 1 year ago
Oh now im an oligarch? I love how you pretend to know everything, even who i am or how ive lived, thats just more of that radical extremist stupidity youve been tought, i love how you prove my point. You lack proof and are only motivated by a false ideology that only appeal to the weak minded like you.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
.......during zelayas 3 1/2 years there were many murders, including the murders of reporters, laywers, judges, and many kiddnappings". It had gotten so out of control that in 2008 there were multiple marches reaching numbers greater then 100,000 pleading to zelaya to do something about crime. Even those marches were much larger then the few zelaya supporters. Why didnt you advocate for human rioghts back then? ........
chepsoki 1 year ago
.......Since your a radical not in Honduras you think you can talk about right and wrong when you have no idea how much Hondurans suffered under zelayas dictatorship. Secondly, if you want to put the blame on somebody why dont you do it to the extremist zelaya who asked his supporters to revolt and to die for him. You see in every country there are idiots who are radicals,.......
chepsoki 1 year ago
.......but the rest of us in Honduras the 80% of the people know that Micheletti defended our rightas from those terrorist that where attacking innocent people in the streets.
chepsoki 1 year ago
People wanted to take the airport because it had been blocked by an illegitimate dictatorship.What is more violent? To treat with shooting down a plane and placing military vehicles on the runway, or an unarmed crowd who defend against that madness?
condidoportinari 1 year ago
@condidoportinari : As far as "illegagitimate dictatorship" ,well tell that to the majority of the honduran people im sure most wont agree with you. If your so conserned with human rights and the deaths of innocent, why dont you cry justice for whats going on now??? ....
chepsoki 1 year ago
.......Just a couple of days ago the terrorist group "resistencia" tried to murder another reporter , the killed one and the other got away. What about whats going on in Colon? How come you dont say anything about that? .......
chepsoki 1 year ago
Two quotes from you:
1) ".Just a couple of days ago the terrorist group "resistencia" tried to murder another reporter"
2)"micheletti killed people? well in a legal democratic system your innocent untill proven guilty,"
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
.....A group of communist took over some ranches..... murdered a 13 year old child. They have killed 12 guards and left 12,000 people without work. But according to you ideologist extrimist the 100 or so communist murderers are more important then the 12,000 democratic people and the children murdered. Why dont you say anything about that
chepsoki 1 year ago
"a group of communists" you look so ridiculous saying something like that. It's the same fucking shit that all the yankees and oligarchs have used to protect their interests en Latin America. Don't annoy me again, you moron, good bye.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
condidoportinari: You have no arguement and have continued to ignore my factual statements, like i said extremist idiots like you need no facts. No wonder you can't understand how the majority of us Hondurans feel, even your poor mentality comes out when you write, i really believe that both the 80% pro-democracy and the 20% pro-zelaya population would agree that your a moron by continously defending your lack of arguement by calling us banana republic.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
So, can you prove that Honduras is not a Banana Republic? Did you know that the term "banana republic" was first coined to describe Honduras? Can you prove that there hasn't been any coup d'etat? Can you prove that Micheletti didn't kill anybody? Can you prove your statement that 80% of Hondurans are pro-coup? Can you prove that the electoral court didn't make fraud? THIS is factual evidence.
Good bye
condidoportinari 1 year ago
jajajaj, of course you would say something stupid and backwards as this. Wouldnt yoU have to prove your false accusations, rather then me prove what is already widely known and supported in Honduras? Remember your the one on the outside with the false acussations. But then again i couldnt expect anything better from an extrimist. Your the kind of people that believe everything your told and start radical witch hunts against innocent people.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
REALHONDURAS: Lets humor condorito with accurate facts,
1. coup? There have been only two independente studies abouyt the legal ouster of the dictator zelaya..... both found that zelaya was legally removed from office based on the Honduran constitution, if you dont believe me look it up on was the library of congress U.S. and the other was a firm contracted by the U.N. also found legal the removal of zelaya, the second wasnt publish but the U.N. made a statement in regards to this.
chepsoki 1 year ago
Está bien, tal vez yo estoy equivocado.
Saludos
condidoportinari 1 year ago 2
@condidoportinari :
micheletti killed people? well in a legal democratic system your innocent untill proven guilty, so it would be up to you to prove he killed people not me to prove he didnt. But i understand that in your radical mind false accusations are just as important as facts as long as it suits your interest. But for this it would have to be taken up in court and proved what you say is true.
chepsoki 1 year ago 2
@condidoportinari :
3. Prove that more then 80% agree with micheletti? -Sure the marches not covered by cnn or nangara stations were much much larger then pro-zelaya, All questionares by independent internatonal news media showed that support for zelaya ranged around 80%. Second i forget the name but a statistical firm from costa rica the largest and most reliable in latin america showed that around 82% of Hondurans wanted the elections held in November. Once again your job to look it up.
chepsoki 1 year ago 2
4. Can you prove that the electoral court didn't make fraud?
1. Sure look at my videos , the turn out for the 2009 elections were massive in comparison to previews elections. Even though the last couple of elections showed a decent in voters per election the last one actually increased. Now you would have to prove turn out was little. Most international agencies concluded that the HOnduran elections were extremely transparent. Even zelaya said that he couldnt prove the elections were a fraud.
chepsoki 1 year ago
"Most international agencies concluded that the HOnduran elections were extremely transparent"
Seeing as all of them (the reliable ones: Carter Centre, UN, EU)refused to monitor those elections, that conclusion appears to have come from the same place as the invented "62%" participation figure.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
Nicos: Hello Nico, you are right to some extent the more traditional observers did not participate. They declined considering that the legal government of Honduras was condemned not by legality but by political aspects. Its ashame, but there were many democratic organisations that did participate as oservers to the elections. The more traditional by refusing to participate they also negate any ability for them to know if or if not transparent elections........
chepsoki 1 year ago
I checked on grounds for refusing to participate. I found this for Carter Center: "The delegation expresses concern that the irregular situation in Honduras could diminish the full validity of the electoral rights of the candidates who are competing and of the citizen voters. "
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
This is the entirety of the United Nations statement: "The Secretary-General has decided to suspend temporarily the technical assistance currently provided by the Organization to the Supreme Electoral Tribunal of Honduras. He does not believe conditions are currently in place for the holding of credible elections that would advance peace and stability. The United Nations is concerned about the current situation and allegations of human rights violations in Honduras, [continues]
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
[cont]"and urges adherence to international human rights treaties and conventions ratified by Honduras and respect for the inviolability of Brazils diplomatic mission in Tegucigalpa.
The Secretary-General is convinced that an end to the crisis in Honduras requires a consensual agreement and supports regional mediation efforts to that end. "
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
[cont]"He joins the Organization of American States and regional leaders in calling for an agreement and urges all political actors to redouble efforts to find common ground through peaceful dialogue. The United Nations stands ready to assist in this process"
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
EUstatement:"the European Union will not send observers to the November general election in Honduras,the scene in June of a military coup,because the conditions do not exist for the vote to be held within a framework of democracy and freedom.The commissions deputy director general for external relations,Stefano Sannino,said in an interview with Efe that the EU,like the other Latin American countries,does not acknowledge that those elections can be based in an open,free and democratic context.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
(from Latin American Herald Tribune, containing the statement in quotation marks)
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
I LOVE the fact these simple cut and paste factual statements get thumbs down!
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
........Remember some of those organizations have participated in elections in countries such as Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, and the resent ones in Nicaragua..... those same organizations claim fair and transparents elections in those countries while the majority of the political world opinion says in those countries elections have been fraudulent.
chepsoki 1 year ago
I agree that one of the unfortunate consequences of all the reliable independent observers not being there means no one can know for certain about the results. (Other than the fact the TSE announced 62% while its own internal figures showed 49%, which it later revised to once the media attention had died down and the political effect of the "62%" statement had taken place).
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
To recap: those organisations are the only international ones with the know-how, and the authority to actually measure elections credibly. They are THE main reliable sources for well-informed "opinion" everwhere. I didn't see anything on Cuba, but I know in the case of Bolivia and Venezuela the majority of the mainstream corporate press would claim anything against those govts., no matter how democratically elected they are, purely on grounds of political disagreement.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago 2
1. True, those organizations have their political agenda to uphold, some of those dont surprise me for instance the carter center funded by James Carter, an unpopular ex-president of the U.S. The other two organizations couldnt observe the elections considering they are governmental organizations that have to follow what the organization leans to. .....
chepsoki 1 year ago
2. The OAS took the stance of condemning the constitutional succession in Honduras by Miguel Insulza just one day after Zelayas legal removal. I personally believe this organization erodes democracy in the Americas; it gives too much power to the executive branch and weakens the separation of powers. Insulza himself after the elections confessed his mistake by not taking action before June 28th that allowed Zelaya to destabilize the country and continue to violate the Honduran constitution.
chepsoki 1 year ago
3. With Zelaya out of the picture Honduras was able to have elections considering that the constitutional government of Micheletti authorized the 2009 budget allowing funds to be appropriated to the Tribunal Supreme Electoral, something that wouldnt have been possible with Zelaya since he kept refusing to submit a 2009 budget plan thus leaving the TSE with no funds to run elections, although he did appropriate massive governmental funds to his 4ta urna.
chepsoki 1 year ago
4. As far as the U.N. well they joined in on condemning Honduras something that doesnt surprise me considering the head of the U.N. Miguel de Escoto, a Nicaraguan ex-rebel and guerilla fighter. Luckily there were many more non-traditional organizations that provided there services to the Honduran elections.
chepsoki 1 year ago
6. for instance COIMER & OP polling showed that 64% of Hondurans looked at the elections as the exit of the political crisis with a 23.8% as a no to the elections, thats a big difference considering Zelaya was advocating for the people not to vote (More proof that Zelayas intentions were not to have elections depriving Hondurans of our rights to have altefrnability of government every 4 years.)
chepsoki 1 year ago
@condidoportinari : To add on the elections... It was covered by a pro-zelaya media , were they even said that turn out was massive. Zelaya and his terrorist group couldnt discourage the Honduran population from voting in massive numbers although they tried. Zelaya asked all people not to vote (failed).
The terrorist group posted threatining messages along streets saying they will kill people that went to vote (failed)
bombs were placed in some voting stations (two went off)............
chepsoki 1 year ago
........ The zelayaistas also stole thousands of cedulas to keep people from voting. With all these contributing factors by the dictator zelaya and his terrorist group the people of honduras went out in massive numbers to vote.
chepsoki 1 year ago
@condidoportinari : Looks to me like your more pissed off at the "yanees" then for democracy in Honduras. But of course its just more proof of what the panamanian diplomat said in the OAS about communist..... for everything that happens in there life they go and through rocks at the U.S. embassy. Jaaaj what a pathetic hateful life.
chepsoki 1 year ago
.....But according to you ideologist extrimist the 100 or so communist murderers are more important then the 12,000 democratic people and the children murdered. Why dont you say anything about that?
chepsoki 1 year ago
With your absurd question of "what people did Micheletti kill" you're probably defying me, hoping that I can't give any names. Well, sorry to disappoint you, but, just like you strip me a name, I also have names, for example the 15 year boy who was the first killed by the repression in Honduras, Isy Obed Murillo. Child-killing is not new in Honduras: you have the traditional death squads created by the "Security" Ministery, who "clean the city" by killing poor boys.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
(sorry, I meant 19 year old)
condidoportinari 1 year ago
condidoportinari: while the death of isy is unfortanate, he died while participating in an open riot. Whats questionable about the way he died is that during that riot the police and soldiers where shooting rubber bullets. Isy was shot in the back of the head by a gun not a rifle, when there are videos of the rioters shooting back at the police. dont forget the death of Karol Cabreras daughter a young pregnant 16 year old murdered by the resistance, the resistance murdered her and her baby.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
In the airport there was jus pacific people, it's a flagrant lie to say they were shooting, and even if they did, they were resisting against an illegitimate government which sent repression, sent the army against pacific protestors, it's a shame and you defend it, the woman has also been killed by agents of the government to create a martir, and Karol Cabreras is a nasty sepoy gorilla, one of few journalists who are given the right to express themselves in Micheletti regime.
condidoportinari 1 year ago
You know very well that the riot in toncontin was not peaceful, there was no repression. The military was following orders from the constitutional president micheletti to block the air strip since zelaya had no permission to enter the country, while zelaya advocaded his few followers to take the airport. The rioters showed up and started to break into the airport thats when the military fired rubber bullets to them, the rioters fired hand guns towads the military. ......
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
....Those people where not demonstrating peacefully and went to the airport knowingly to start a confrontation with the police and military. They were allowed to protest until they started rioting and trying to take over the airport.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
As far as karol cabreras daughter an innoscent pregnant 16 year old child was brutally murdered by the terrorist group pro-zelaya. there is no justification for the murder of a child and the murder of a baby. Just becuase the terrorist group didnt like the fact that her mom was a pro constitution reporter bringing out the truth to the 80% of the population that are pro- democracy anti-zelaya.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
* when I say "cons", I referred to conservatives...
condidoportinari 1 year ago 2
the conservative idea is not too far from the socialist idea , being a resposible individua or goverment dont overspend the people money. And the idea that man is capable of doing more if he is motivated for the reward of a better and more prosperous life is what i think a conservative should be. The problem is the difference on opinion on how to spend the wealth. Many times we dont take the right decision thinking only in money terms, there is a human factor that sometimes is needed.
fish1597 1 year ago
Socialism emerged in response to the terrible social injustice and unequality, poverty, and massive unemployement. You support the idea of social darwinism and Hobbes' "man is a wolf to man"... I remind you that equalitarism is not a socialist concept but a liberal concept born with French Revolution. Today liberals deny equality, they are "meritocratic" (modern way to say elitist) but they are contradicting themselves, because their original motto was "liberty, equality, fraternity".
condidoportinari 1 year ago 2
as crazy as it sounds i agree with you ,capitalism has sometimes forgotten the idea of the fellow man , there has to be a balance , capitalism should include some kind of social support for the less fortunate , i have been one of the less fortunate. On the other hand when communism forgets the idea that the individual has the opportunity to go as far as he can he can is also wrong . Somewhere in the middle there is a balance , extremes never work ....
fish1597 1 year ago
On my early years i thought like a socialist and really believed that that will be the way to go , after i had a job and a familiy to support and saw the behavior of some of the leaders, i saw that socialism sounds good in paper but is bad when it comes to execution . If capitalism is driven by responsible leaders should work and should benefit at the end the majority of the people. is also true that any irresposible leader will screw up any system.
fish1597 1 year ago
Which Venezuelans? The wealthy ones who unsuccessfully attempted to overthrow him as part of a coup that would've replaced Chavez with a right wing dictator who cared nothing about the poor people! Don't believe me? I suggest you watch "The War on Democracy" for the truth. However, it might be too liberal for your liking.
flawedbeauty82 1 year ago 8
@flawedbeauty82 flawedbullshit not the wealthy ones , the one that in a future may disagree and will be to late to change a totalitarian government and have to work on a daily basis to survive. The ones that want a free press and dont have it because was against Chavez. Chavez is not helping the poor he is helping himself , he is hiding the fact that he is spending the wealth in armament not on the future of Venezuela, Talking about the poor when he doesnt live that way ,Chavez is an hypocrite
fish1597 1 year ago
It's the one they used since 1959. Before that they had their "communist threat" and the "threat" of Germans in Central America and the "Yellow Peril", you name it.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
And I repeat: no honduran rebelled against the government of Zelaya, you deliberately say this trying to show that "hondurans expelled Zelaya by their own will", but it's a lie, the only hondurans who you can consider that have rebelled against Zelaya were a few old rich bitches with banners supporting the coup AFTER Zelaya was overthrown.
condidoportinari 1 year ago 2
All your pathetic sophisms don't need to be responded. Anyone who read this will realize you're lying. Chávez doesn't need to make fraud, because he is the best president Venezuela has had in the last 100 years or more, he gave rights and dignity to the people and expelled the petrodollar-oligarchy that was ruining the country, and that's what the right-wing opposition doesn't forgive him. International observers have never reported fraud in Venezuela.
condidoportinari 1 year ago 3
Because Left-wingers are monstrous ignoramuses, I am so ashamed and horrified that socialists have murdered 140 million people and that ignorant masses are so easily fooled, and continuously put socialists back in power.
I weep for humanity and pray that left-wingers eventually become moral and rational.
islandmuffin 1 year ago
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condidoportinari 1 year ago
Because capitalism has killed EVEN MORE people. For a little information just read Noam Chomsky's text "Millennial visions and selective vision" part one and two. Read "Late Victorian Holocausts"... read!
condidoportinari 1 year ago
condi it seems that you are a committed communist , the truth is that you forgot about killings in cuba, north korea,russia and china why do we have to read Chomsky , because he forgot these facts of the communist killers too. it always amuses me the way that the capitalism is always bad and the murdering communists are the good guys. Why dont they remember killing inocent people when communist do this, Is it selective consciousness and convinience, god is so good to talk without opposition
fish1597 1 year ago
Likewise, Americans are now accepting responsibility for voting for the radical left-winger MaObama, who is actively destroying the American economy by dismantling the free market.
I personally apologize for Americas collective ignorance for letting this socialist leaning fascist fool American voters. I feel shame at knowing how Obamas damaging the capitalist economic engine harms humanity.
islandmuffin 1 year ago
@islandmuffin : i agree with you islandmuffin, obama is too soft and has created a bunch of mess for the democracies in latin america by allowing chavez to intervene in almost every country with his petrodollars.
REALHONDURAS 1 year ago
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Do Latinos, themselves, have any responsibility for their failed states and the conditions of the nations they created?
Blaming others for your failures is a form of extreme cowardliness, but even less...
You are doomed to remain cowardly failures until you claim self-responsibility for your actions and inactions.
islandmuffin 1 year ago
i saw a ginger boy, tall enough to stand out, taking videos... Is that your real news? the gingerbread?
GmRb79 1 year ago
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The commies are now crying foul while Honduras moves ahead towards a better future, free of a Chavez wannabe. WAAA, WAAA, sob sob. Here's a nice clean hankie for you "bolivaristas" to wipe your tears with. You lost and will keep losing. Hugo is next in line to get his ass kicked.
Laverdadduele1 1 year ago
Hey, Senator Jim Bunning just called, he wants his lack of compassion back!
flawedbeauty82 1 year ago
I called this out, back when I heard of the coup.
As expected.
bishop102 2 years ago 3
@bishop102 in reply to your stupid message to me I tell ya that I live in Honduras, so I do know what I am talking about. It's you who doesn't know a peanut about my country, unless Zelaya payed ya to defend him and his stupid sociaclist ideas.
RolandoZuniga 2 months ago
"TheRealNews" you said hagamos democracia is affiliated with the Democratic Party sorry for me and most people that makes them un-trust worthy
mckzckTV 2 years ago 3
Zelaya wanted to stay in the presidential chair indefinitely continue plundering public money and lying to the poor, saying that everything he was doing for the poor in Honduras and blaming the United States and private enterprise for almost everything in our Country. In fact, Zelaya intended or promoted class struggle against employers in the country when private companies that provides employment to millions of Hondurans.
RolandoZuniga 2 years ago
this video refuses to do any mention that the percent use for public matters in this and elections before, is always discounting the million or so of hondurans that live outside the country and don't get to vote,
but even if it wasn't so, last elections Zelaya won with 49%, almost the same that the video claims for Lobo,
and Zelaya got 918,669 votes while Santos (the loser) got 817.524, a not to far away number, while Lobo got more than a million
fajro86 2 years ago
dam wrong about Honduras
RolandoZuniga 2 years ago
After watching this video, it makes me think just how bad it is when the media spreads a lie. It would be better that everyone was clueless than read the bad journalism that makes its way onto 'reliable' outlets like The NY Times.
Thank you RealNews for doing some good reporting here.
NathanZackery 2 years ago 5
This video is so freakin yellow and far from the truth!!
RolandoZuniga 2 years ago
really great information...thank to Real News
dadoka2007 2 years ago 6
really bad and far away frome the truth!!!
RolandoZuniga 2 years ago
How would you know? You probably live in the States. You don't even know your own history...
bishop102 2 years ago 3
well honduras es muy pequeño para ser libre por eso emos sido esclavos de los yankis medios escritos y televisoras usan para estupedeser las personas niego mi patria una i mil beses
joselitoQ 2 years ago 3
This is an excellent report ...
bizzy17 2 years ago 7
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Although the percentage does appear to have been exxaggerated, at least I am pretty sure I can say that Pepe did not buy the election as Mel did. Overall, I praise God for President Micheletti. This video is yet another in the long series of productions made by people who do not know the whole story, most of whom do not live here. I am today more proud of living in Honduras than I am of being a US citizen.
streamskat 2 years ago
streamskat, at least you do us the favour of not falsely pretending to be a democrat. Thanks for that, even if you have nothing worthwhile to say.
emwatcher 2 years ago 8
Excellent reporting.
burrdturgler 2 years ago 12
same corrupt govt everywhere!
Badwolf182 2 years ago 16
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Whom ever keeps saying this was a coup is just trying to gain simpathy for their socialist ideology making Zelaya a false martir. Supreme court is the same as in Zelayas goverment, congress is the same, public ministry and electorial court are the same, the only branch of goverment that changed was the executive branch that is hardly a coup. The president is ONLY ONE branch of goverment and surely not King Louis XIV "I am the state" Beware, this reporter is misleding purposely misleading you
ahonduransopinion 2 years ago
Again you have 0 to say about anything specific being misleading in this video.I note you have varied from saying the video contains "lies" to saying the reporter is "purposely misleding" (sic).
Again in the video it is clearly not the reporter, but the TSE which is visibly misleading the public by fabricating figures of 61% against which,again,you have absolutely nothing to refute what is obvious to any careful viewer.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago
And of course, few people are as stupid as you hope they will be, not to realise that a coup is still a coup even if you "only" commit it against the president and not against ALL the public institutions -the latter of which makes sense when these institutions are complicit, as has happened repeatedly in Honduran history, including 28 June 2009.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago
without counting it is not just President Zelaya, but a number of his ministers who have been replaced with others who are apparently not too leftwing for the Honduran army, a spokesperson of which sacred institution stated his gang could not work with a leftwing government.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago 3
good job Jesse..
Thanks for bringing truth forward.
rishugmail 2 years ago 34
why would they recognize this fraud only because they were performed in an ¨orderly¨ way what were they expecting? a blood bath? does this makes them legitimate?
edu1987edu1987 2 years ago 34
Yes, definitely lowering the standards when it's politically convenient.
Then Hillary Clinton tries to angrily lecture Latin American countries on being democratic! That kind of hypocrisy is world class!
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago 2
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If this jerk of Zelaya should have aligned with himself and not with scumbags like Chavez; I would probably have been in the streets fighting for his restitution but he was like his enemies, another crook. DEATH TO TURCOS, FUCKING PALESTINIANS.
juframo63 2 years ago
When a democratically elected president is removed in a coup, the entire people is the victim, regardless of whether you agree with his or her policies: it means golpistas can remove ANY president.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago 5
that works when the president is a good president. When he/she is a crook that doesn't work at all.
juframo63 2 years ago
No, I mean regardless of whether some like him or not, to recognise a coup against one president is to legitimise the threat of a coup against ANY president, because it is an arbitrary use of force which does not depend on an "objective" measurement of whether the president is "good" or "bad", and has no democratic basis, unlike an election, an impeachment, a trial, a mid-term referendum, for example.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago
I agree with you but when there are not guidelines on how to impeach a president then it becomes a complex issue to handle and it was either to put him behind bars in the central penitenciary, army barracks or expell him out of the country. We all agree the country's Constitution needs a reform. The evil forces headed by the arab(palestinians) businessmen in Honduras were the main force behind these events because they were scarred to death to lose what they have stolen to hondurans.
juframo63 2 years ago
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What is the purpose of atacking Honduras with this misstatements? Why don't some reporters be impartial, investigate what really happend and report their findings without tampering with the evidence? What do this people win by misleading everyone about Honduras electios? This elections were the most watched in Honduras history, half of the world, Chavez, Fidel and Zelaya wanted them to fail miserably, but we Hondurans voted more than in any other time, stop trying to take this victory from us.
ahonduransopinion 2 years ago
No te das cuenta que cualquiera que mire bien este video se entera de la evidente mentira del TSE?Tus comentarios NUNCA aportan dato ninguno.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago 4
Tambien existe una version en español: /watch?v=Kk6PPFnkcEA
FrilleDill 2 years ago 5
this is ridiculous. Brazil will not recognize this fraud. I'm proud about my government. Micheletti is just another latin american criminal doing his dirty work for the dirty and decadent american empire. Obama is a poor puppet. Latin ammerica belong to us latinamericans. here in Brazil we have a half dozen of "Michelettis" but our democracy is strong. Not this tragic joke.
burpvom 2 years ago 45
Colombian vice-president Santos has just said the tragicomic farce seen above as "an example of democracy"! Sure, an example of democracy where only the business class wins is the kind he'd like to see...puaj.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago
Aw! not the National Endowment for Democracy again! Are they the CIA's front group or something?!
jackpoupart 2 years ago 25
Essentially, yes, it was set up to further the CIA agenda on the "aid" and "humanitarian front." Just find a search engine. (On the other hand, you may have been joking--it's hard to tell over the web...)
flagwatch 2 years ago 30
este video no refleja la realidad...mala informacion..pues es un video de cosas pasadas.......
eliosky 2 years ago
Entonces habria que publicar videos de cosas futuras? No entendi: las noticias no tratan siempre de cosas pasadas, por definicion? Estaria bueno que identificaras alguna de las fallas de las que hablas....
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago 2
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SeexyyAmbeer 2 years ago
Shame to the Canadian Conservative Party who is anti democratic, who is supporting human wright violations. The worst government Canada ever had.
Manongrondines 2 years ago 40
The corporate media cannot be trusted.
Seleucus84 2 years ago 32
ur corrrect, only tamil net can be trused, according to tamilnet, we r winning army running..channel-4 bbc are liers work 4 money!
thalivarr alive & ready to sacrifies remaining tamils to sinhala-dogs, duwarkaa & madivaani are pregnanat thanks to dogs,
KolonelKARUNA 2 years ago
KolonelKARUNA's whole purpose on youtube is to harass and intimidate anyone who critisizes the policies and actions of the corrupt and facist Sri Lankan government. KolonelKARUNA does this by stalking anyone he considers to have a valid criticism of his beloved government and spamming all their comments with his nonsensical diatribe.
Seleucus84 2 years ago
The Sri Lankan government and it's supporters do not want anyone to know the truth about what is truly happening in Sri Lanka. To learn more about the atrocities commited by the Sri Lankan government, please check out the videos in my favourites. Thanks.
Seleucus84 2 years ago
HAK HAK HOO..nobody belive u!!,,hak ghak gukasld!..leader no more, no more death to tamils, tamils r free!
KolonelKARUNA 2 years ago
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Fraud? This lies are the fraud. It does not matter if media outlets like this keep making up stuff to validate their existence. We have deciden to kick out Chavez and Zelaya. If most Hondurans spoke english, we would definetively be enraged by your lies. I know my country is hostage to both a political and economical elite, I definetively active in regecting them. But repeating Zelays's lies and impliying they are true is as bad as any crime against free people anywere. STOP MISLEADING VIEWERS.
ahonduransopinion 2 years ago
Try and identify a single "lie" in the report. Try one. One. Uno solito. A ver de que estas hecho.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago 6
May you list these lies you found from this video? I am curious.
xoxgodofgodsgodxx 2 years ago 44
Excellent job, if you see the TSE web, you can realize that the elections was a fraud, all of my family didnt vote because we never validate a coup in my country
rocaral 2 years ago 26
Fenomenal job Jesse. You know im donating right? Merry Christmas. "La LIBERTAD nos se mendiga, se consigue con las armas en las manos", cueste lo que cueste y dure lo que dure.
SeraHonduras 2 years ago 27
Our constitution is worthless it was made after the coup in 1982
dopeskies 2 years ago 33
Elecciones ilegales, gobierno ilegal. Deberían ir todos a un paro nacional total, aunque sea perjudicial, lo único que revertiría esta dictadura ya que si no podría haber más muertos y eso es peor.
melisapadilla 2 years ago 33
honduras is under a capitalist dictatorship ...overthrow the fascist coup-mongers! Chavez and other south american leaders should support the Honduran resistance, it's clear these oligarchs have no regard for the democratic process.
historywillabsolve 2 years ago 41
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Pieldetapir 2 years ago
High level investigative journalism.
delerium2k 2 years ago 38
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Zelaya is the only fraud. I bet he's not laughing now...I AM
anzuelocr 2 years ago
Electoral tribunal members lying in public and on camera. Police brutality, murder by death squad -that's some sense of humour you have there.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago 9