The Heritage Foundation Presents - Welfare at 10

[kennny732]

CONSERV-A-NUTS hate widows orphans and cripples

[jjtb4v]

Isn't it odd that the Koch Industry is receiving welfare from OUR tax dollars and they give us the line about how the poor on welfare are the ones who are raping the system? I wonder how many poor people can be housed, fed, and clothed for what the Koch Industries get per year in subsidies?

[bastardrob]

RETARDED

[photon1138]

Huh..? Give the wealthy to the rich? Where the hell did the money come from to begin with? Do you even know what money is? Money is a store of wealth, a medium of exchange, a utility with intrinsic value. Before a single dollar can be stolen or mooched and handed out to the poor (failures) it must first be earned by the achievers. Such is modern liberalism, an emotionaly charged state of mind and behavior fueled on envy.

[auditthepolls]

Yes the government has been giving more and more money to the rich. Passing laws that increase the divide and eliminate the middle class. And it gives its money to those who make campaign contributions. So a 4th generation billionaire is successful because he didn't become poor, and a 4th generation poor person is a failure because he didn't become rich? You have a strange view.

[znotty]

Funny place America the poorer you are the more your hated & when they talk about "reform" they really mean leave em to starve in the street & give the money to the rich.

[MikeyMcCrashCap]

Of course the war on poverty does not end poverty. Charity, it seems, is not enough for welfare scum. You dump billions of dollars on the welfare baby making pieces of trash, and they still claim they are poor. Poor piece of shit contributors to the human race.

[brokensoul71]

In america with all our advantages, only the lazy need to be on welfare.Generations of people grow up on this system instead of working and contributing to society, they leach off others and get high or drunk all day.I think there should be strict laws and drug testing required do get any welfare benifits.1 year should be more than enough time to get on your feet.Also put them to work to pay back what they use.Stop free handouts to the lazy ingrates.

[Mike1977a1]

Wow why is there so much Idealogical rigity in America & Britain, i think that they are making a mistake . Because the a large number of people are become excluded from American Dream but they arent shown in the media. I think the people with eventually rock the AmericaN State and anihilate it in its current form!

[Mike1977a1]

I feel proud that our men are fighting to defend our empire from the evil people in these third worlds countries who dont want to sell their oil to us.

Now the iraqis are free to elect a government that we approve of and are free to sell their oil to us and not others.

And we will protect them from electing a free government that will build an economy that will help the ordinary people.

We have to be proud of our men who sacrifice themselves for the good of the impoverished corporate elite.

[dtaijo174]

Well said!

[gravelin08]

Yes, the wealthy can never have enough tax subsidized welfare but the poor can only have too much.

[kgj08]

Okay, but you are speaking economic nonsense. If I told you that you could either have $10 or you could work for me for $1 a day, which would you choose? You'd probably go with the $10 and I would end up with nothing. This is just like welfare. Tax cuts mean that people have an incentive to work and produce goods and services. The opportunity cost of remaining unemployed suddenly becomes much less when you are on welfare.

[kgj08]

Of course some welfare programs are needed. I think that everyone realizes that. But look at Lyndon Johnson's welfare policies. He wanted single parents to receive more money than married couples with children. This sounds like a fine idea, but everything is a trade off and this had disastrous consequences. Black women started to not marry the father of their children to receive more money, and now today we see that 70% of black babies are born to a single mother.

[kgj08]

I am certainly not saying that you don't have good intentions, but you have to look at the economic facts.  Welfare reform actually reduced poverty and helped increased real GDP. Reagan's corporate tax cuts increased everyone's salaries and created 21 million new jobs. Remember, conservatives don't believe in trickle down economics. They actually believe in trickle up economics.

[kgj08]

When a corporation or small business gets to keep more of their money, they will most likely invest that money. Everybody knows that new business investments are costly and profits may not start coming in until 2, 5, or even 10 years down the road. So who receives the earliest benefits from business investments?  The American worker. As opposed to the business who sees their profits come in say 5 years, the worker sees their profits come in 2 weeks.

[demonshots]

notice how Corporate welfare never crosses the great minds of the Heritage fund?

its agenda, a great big load of neo-con, money grubbing B.S.

[MagnumSerpentine]

Attention Heritage Foundation, Welfare Reform has failed, and there are far more people living in the streets than there were in 1996 when the disastrous welfare reform began.

[mhirtes12]

If enough people were actually donating to charity, there wouldn't be any need for the government to step in. But quite obviously (go to any downtown and look around), the churches and charities are simply not the answer.

[TheTrueHolyDarkness]

Silly billy. =P

True charity isn't about total dollar sum spent, its about lives liberated. Its about someone spending their *time* with others far more than it is about spending cash on people. Toss money at people unconditionally, and they'll continue to rely on you like a child. And no one ever gets off of it.

And I think you underestimate charities. They were here before the 1930s, and they've always been working behind the scenes, EFFECTIVELY.

[TheTrueHolyDarkness]

True Charities spend TIME, not MONEY. Only the TIME people spend on others actually frees the impoverished. And TIME is not something State Welfare programs spends on people. All they do is generate dependency. =P

Charity also has to be conditional, otherwise, scammers and leeches is all you get. Conditional welfare isn't something that the government is not well known for, hence the point of this video in the first place. XP

~TheHolyDarkness Out~

[mhirtes12]

No, "TheTrueHolyDarkness". You cannot have your Great Depression era dystopia where the poor are forced to grovel in soup kitchens and churches.

NOT YOUR'S!

[TheTrueHolyDarkness]

Meh? What about the Great Depression (that fluke of multiple government caused recessions generated by a venerability to the tariffs [with post-WWI State Deposit Insurance] coming back to haunt us after the government first idiotically signs Smoot-Hawley, which later led to state banking runs as farms [and with them, their state farm banks] began to fail, and then tries to solve the problem with more stupidity in the New Deal...

[TheTrueHolyDarkness]

...with policies that basically makes it impossible to get a job unless your in a union [good luck with that if you're colored], burns the crops of productive farmers [which, again, is STUPID], etc, etc, all while raising taxes and so forth, delusionally thinking such tax and spending policies that gets in the way of laissez fare is going to "help" the situation blah blah blah), I don't get your point.

[mhirtes12]

"multiple government caused recessions"? Good Lord! You actually believe that, don't you?

The Great Depression was the result of the 20th century's first "free market/deregulation" craze of the late 1920's. Wiki up the term "Robber Baron" and get some education there, pal.

[TheTrueHolyDarkness]

Every once of college level economic training is inwardly laughing its ass off at your use of wikipedia as a source on a subject from my field of study, the apparent fact that you have no idea how to tell what separates political vs market entrepreneurs when you used the term "robber baron", the criteria that separates true a monopoly vs. a firm that just happens to be #1, and the countless other fallacies you just made in that comment. =P

[TheTrueHolyDarkness]

Dude, the Great Depression is a multi-layered chain of recessions, with the seeds of it starting as early as right after WWI, when the U.S. economy was being steered towards agriculture in order to feed Europe after its initial devastation, with the Fordney-McCumber Tariff of 1922 setting up the illusion that Tariff = good thang (they only got away with that tariff since the devastated Euro economy yet wasn't in the position to retaliate against U.S. Tariff acts)...

[TheTrueHolyDarkness]

...creating a flawed precedent for Smoot-Hawley, and the multi-layered retributions from it that turned what should've been the start of an average recession into a ginormous super recession.

Not to mention how the New Deal would help prolong the whole ordeal. Oh no. XD

[TheTrueHolyDarkness]

But anyway, thanks for showing concern for my education, but its quite all right. If you wish to learn more myths regarding the field of economics, then I can help if I have the spare time, but in the meantime it may do you better if you learned from a source other than wiki. You know, like read BOOKS on the subject? ^.^

~TheHolyDarkness Out~

[Jbalangue]

I know a lozer that continues to suck on welfare and her daughter is 18 and doesnt even live with her.  Why should this lozer continue to get welfare????

[sp00n3d]

It would be better if you gave more details than that. Or some facts. Facts only seem to get in the way of the christofascist right wing theocratic movement though.

[gedhession]

Isn't the best way for people to get out of poverty is to provide them with decent, well paid jobs. Books like Nickle and Dimed and the Betrayal of Work show that this isn't happening.

[DerTeufelHund]

ok, they receive support from corporations, as do all think tanks like this, and politicians. Would you prefer no donations from these groups and they not exist to spread their ideas and get us talking?

[ParanoidMystic]

Yes. We are going to talk and think - it's our natural right and gift. We do not need a "tank" to think for us. They are not a "think tank." They are a "money mouthpiece."

[gedhession]

I have often wondered that if a person on welfare sent a resume to the Heritage Foundation would it offer that person a job?

[ParanoidMystic]

Heritage has received a long and steady flow of support from nearly 100 major corporations, including Chase Manhattan Bank, Dow Chemical Company, Ford Motor Company, General Motors, Mobil, Procter & Gamble, and GlaxoSmithKline[3] -- WIKIPEDIA

[operator0]

So what?

[ParanoidMystic]

sew buttons!

[Natedogg614]

Well, if you saw it on Wikipedia, then it HAS to be true. I mean, it's not like ANYONE can add to an article or anything like that!

[JMB129]

Oh come on man. Didn't you know Wikipedia is the most prestigous, credible source in the world?

[sp00n3d]

It's also sourced back to a site that sources it's claims back to the Heritage foundation themselves. Facts are always liberal lies in the eyes of the Reichous.

[rorbin]

Newt 2008!