I dont believe in the 7 year tribulation. I believe in a 42 month tribulation. Good information though. You have the same mind I do even though. I believe we should be trying to get as many people saved as we can. My church doesnt go soul winning enough.
You got it! We will DEFEND UNTIL THE END! ARE you afraid to die for our Lord? Our early Christian brothers & sisters never believed in a rapture! NO it was NOT Darby.It was a little girl in the 1800's in Scotland who had a dream.It's a hoax.You are not a Christian! Would you die for Jesus? Go to your death clinging to Jesus? You need to get out of your half church.Why not go to a COMPLETE CHURCH.
Where do you get this 7 year trib.? Did you know that the letter "J" is less than 500 years old.Do you know what the Father's name is?Did you know that the meek shall inherit the EARTH? Did you know that no one is going to heaven? Did you know that "Thy kingdom come"?...on earth.Did you ever read ACTS 14:22? Dude you really are mistaken.
Paul himself even said that the dead would rise first THEN those alive would be caught up in the air!Read that in 1 Thessalonians chapter 3 verses 13 - 18.
So that means to pinpoint the Rapture of us alive is to pinpoint the Rapture of the dead...since that will happen 1st. When does Jesus "Rapture" the dead? The Bible CLEARLY states that the rising of the dead, which will happen first, is on The Last Day. Read for yourself...(John 6:39, 40, 44, 54; 11:24; 12:48) No Rapture before Trial, sorry
Not to mention, Catholics DO believe that Christ can come at any time! If he had read the Catechism, he would have learned, section 673, "Since the Ascension, Christ's coming in glory has been imminent, even though, 'it is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has fixed by his own authority.' This eschatological coming could be accomplished AT ANY MOMENT, even if both it and the final trial that will precede it are 'delayed'.
unbelievable. Catholics are Christians. That's where Christianity comes from or at least thats where all Protestants faith derives!!! Just look at the word PROTESTant...it means to Protest. So when Paul the Apostle says that there should be no Factions among you and bickering and disagreeing....you decide to Protest the earliest Christian Church.
@KevinEli77 No Catholic Worships Mary. Catholics believe in Intersession. You would too if the Protestant Reformation, Martin Luther, had not taken out the books of Maccabees out of the Bible. Which is a true teaching of Christian faith. Through Intersession, we are to ask those who live Eternally with Christ to offer up prayers on our behalf...When we are with Christ Jesus said we will be like the Angels in Heaven, (Matthew 22:23-30) I
@KevinEli77 And if rest with Jesus in Heaven, we are then like Angels, and Angels Pray for us...says so in the Bible, (Rev. 8:3–4) & (Rev. 5:8) & (Matt. 18:10). All you have to do is research before you open your mouth. The internet is at your fingertips, yet you quickly Judge before you research it...Paul the Apostle says, "but test everything; hold fast what is good" 1 Thessalonians 5:21
At the Council of Ephesus, there was no talk specifically of "the rapture" as is taught today. The Catholics mistakenly thought they were in the process of setting up the "symbolic" "millennial reign" by creating a worldwide church.
It's sad that the website just combined the two together (rapture and millennial reign) as a strawman type argument instead of using scripture...As for the 1500ish timeframe, Martin Luther and John Calvin both were amillennialist.
@doublej1963 Really and truly, to get a better understanding of that particular verse I would read a larger portion of the scripture, such as Matt. 24:20-35. Jesus is talking about His coming and the tribulation that the elect or chosen ones of God will go through before He Returns...He is speaking about the last days. Notice there is nothing in there that mentions, a Rapture, before these tribulations...
Well, i forgot to post link. theni learned you can't post links. Sigh.
Ok well i would like for you to check out biblechristiansociety and look for a mp3 download called Rapture and the bible. give me your thoughts on it if you want.
I think its great you getting out there and preaching for what you believe. I am Catholic and do not agree with most of what you preach, but thats ok. I won't be little or demonize what you believe, We wont get any where with that type of rhetoric.
I would like to invite you to listen to a catholic perspective on "End TImes". You single out the Catholic Church on this subject. but Actually, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Episcopal and Methodist also should be included
Your first premise is just nonsense. The catholic church condemns ideas both things that were taught, and things that they wish to prevent to be taught. But even IF it was taught, it doesn't mean it's biblical or that Christ wished us to believe it.
Rabbi Joachim Prinz in 1934 wrote a book in favor of Hitler called Wir Juden, does this mean Judaism supported the Nazis too? The Concordat has nothing to do with the church gaining power, it was about the church in germany not being crushed by the nazis
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. --Matthew 13:30
So much for the pretrib rapture.
BTW thanks for adopting the word rapture from our bible translation the Latin Vulgate
@redbaron998 I asked you to provide the NAME of God's "sacred church". The word "catholic" does NOT appear in Matthew 28:19-20, Revelation 5:9-10, or ANYWHERE else in the Bible!
Yet I am supposed to believe that the catholic "church" is the one true church?
My faith is founded on SCRIPTURE ALONE! Not on a man made system of good works like Roman Catholicism. I have studied Catholicism for years, and it does NOT appear in scripture. (Other than Revelation 17-18!)
This is because you are operating on a false premises, that is the man made doctrine of Scripture Alone, Nowhere does the bible advocate this position and actually speaks against it.
And if you have been "Studying" Catholicism for years than you should know that the word Catholic means Universal, which is what Matthew 28:19 is speaking of (Go ye therefore, and teach all nations...")
@redbaron998 Yes I know that "catholic" means universal. My point is that the word "catholic" isn't from the Bible, but rather from Greek philosphy.
The Bible doesn't advocate "Scripture Alone"?
"Making the word of God of none effect through your TRADITION, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye." (Mark 7:13) Jesus condemned the RC/Pharisee position of holding man made traditions above scripture.
2 Tim. 3:16-17 says scripture, NOT tradition. There are many more verses
Mark 7:13 is clearly talking claiming that money is given to God so that they could avoid helping thier parents, it has nothing whatsoever to do with Sola Scriptura.
2 Timothy states that scripture is inspired and profitable for doctrine, teaching, etc.. Indeed certainly it is is profitable. Yet Profitable does not at all mean that it is the sole role of faith to the exclusion of all others. If it did then Paul would be meaning the Old Testament is sufficent as that was all they had at the time. It was not till later that the Catholic Church defined the New Testament Canon.
@husky394xp If Catholicism is not the one true church, then where is the one true church. Jesus says in Matthew 16;18 that the gates of hell will never overpower his church. So was Jesus a liar? What happened to that church he started?
@100PercentCatholic The true church is still here. I am part of it. The church is a living group of born again believers in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Roman Catholicism showed up around 200 years AFTER the completion of the New Testament. They added many things that have no basis in scripture. Even the name "Catholic" was taken from Greek philosophy, and NOT the Bible.
The Catholic church has suffered for centuries with scandals and corruption. The current pedophile problem is just the latest
@husky394xp It's not that Catholicism is not biblical, it is just that your current pastor's interpretation of the bible differs from the Catholic church's interpretation. Me and you could argue all day about what the bible says and what it really means. That is why I urge people who have objections to the Catholic faith to go and read the writings of our early Church fathers. The people closest to Christ. You would be surprised how Catholic their writings are.
1. Mary worship. 1 Tim. 2:5 says that the ONE mediator between God and man in Jesus Christ, NOT Mary.
2. The office of pope. 1 Tim. 3:1-6 says a Bishop is to be the HUSBAND of one WIFE. Peter was married, and never was given total control of the church.
3. Forced celibacy. Condemned in 1 Tim. 4:3 and 1 Cor. 7 which says a man should marry if he is "burning" with lust. This is why your priests have sex perversion problems.
@husky394xp The church does not force celibacy. You willingly choose that when you become a priest. "Whoever can accept this ought to accept it" (Matt 19:10-12). In 1 Cor 7:32-35 Saint Paul talks about how a celibate man is free to dedicate himself to things of the lord.
To say that priests have sex perversion problems because of celibacy is a huge inaccuracy. I mean, I live a celibate life because I am unmarried and I promise you I have no desire to molest kids. visit reformation . com
@100PercentCatholic Does the Catholic church allow one of their priests to marry if he feels a need to? No they do not. So yes it is forced.
Being a single man does not automatically make you into a sex pervert. I agree. But when a single man is forced to sit in a confessional booth and ask questions to married women and young children about their sexual thoughts and sins, it WILL mess him up! Auricular confession is unscriptural. SINS are to be confessed to God. (1 John 1:9)
@husky394xp John 20:21-23 clearly shows Jesus giving the apostles the authority to forgive sins. But do you see the point I was trying to make in my original post? We can throw bible verses at each other all day. We both pray to the Holy Spirit before reading the bible to guide us to the truth. So what makes your Holy Spirit right and mine wrong? You see, having an infallible book means nothing if you don't have an infallible interpreter, the church. Read 2 Peter 1:20
@100PercentCatholic 2 Peter 1:20 shows why I am so much against Catholicism. Because they claim to be the ONLY true church, and the ONLY interpreters of the Bible. They are the ones guilty of "private interpretation". Since Catholicism's beginnings, they have persecuted and killed anyone who opposed them.
You call the Catholic church an "infallible interpreter"? Yet history has shown that Catholic doctrines and teachings are FAR from infallible! Many of the popes contradicted one another.
@husky394xp You really didn't answer my question. What makes your holy spirit right and mine wrong? The bible clearly does not interpret itself as their are thousands of denominations out there who all believe something different? So what is a Christian to do? How do you find the truth? How do you know who has the correct interpretation of the bible?
@100PercentCatholic Your "Holy Spirit" is actually your Catholic church traditions. Like most other "churches" you believe what you are told. When your beliefs are contradicted by the Bible, you will ignore the Bible and cling to tradition. (Mark 7:13)
The fact is that salvation is by grace through faith and NOT of works. (Eph. 2:8-9) Jesus died once for sin. (Heb. 10:10-14) He doesn't need to be re-sacrificed on a daily basis! The Holy Spirit cannot speak to you as a lost man. (Eph. 2:1-3)
@husky394xp The bible itself is a TRADITION, the list of the books in the bible itself is a tradition, The apostles accepted many Jewish traditions that were not found in the bible. Jesus condemned the traditions of MEN, not of God. The Catholic Church does not teach the impious man is justifed by our own works, that is Pelagian, only after we receieve grace do good works justify as James says. Again we believe Christ died once. I do not know what you are getting at by Eph 2:1-3. I
@husky394xp the Catholic Church recognizes the Orthodox and Oriental churches as bein true churches
I do not know why you would debate saying we believe we are the only interpreters, logically there is only one correct reading of the Scripture (not to say there cannot be multiple readings of one verse being correct).
I do not see you point about killing, Moses' law did similar, Protestants did similar, so what?
Far from infallible and contradictions like what? learn the circumstance
@husky394xp Priests can get married if they agree to be defrocked. Since the times of the apostles a person get married while simultaneously serving as a priest.
They were on the other hand allowed to be married before ordination.
Priests do not ask questions questions looking for detail, they only want the sin committed and the number of times, i was never asked about my sexual thoughts and sins. Sin is to be confessed to God, we believe that confession is confessing to God
@husky394xp No Mary worship. Some of the early bishop were married before ordination, but with the case of Peter it seems his wife most likely was dead. Peter alone was give the keys of the Kingdom, none other. Forced celilbacy is not done, they made the vow to God, Scripture says to keep vows to God.
Even many Protestant clerics have sexual perversion problems, even the married ones
If it wasn't for the Catholic church, there would be no Christianity.. The Catholic church was and is the first church of Christ... to say they are not Christians is a lie from Satan. Whatever religion of Christianity you call yourself, it would have came about if it wasn't for the Catholic church and that's a fact jack.
@redwingsred74 Waldensians, Vaudois, Donatists, and many other Christian groups were around since the first century. The pagan Catholic church showed up in the 4th century under Constantine. The Roman empire was crumbling as a political power, and so it morphed into a "church" around 350 AD. They then set out to kill most of the early Christians so that they could claim that the Roman Catholic church was the first!
I have studied Catholicism for years. It is NOT Christianity!
Catholics are Christians, bottom line and you are a fool ( and acting very UN-Christian) to say otherwise. You are also a fool to think you are so sure that YOU are going to experience a pre-trib rapture. If it does not happen to you , is it then you'll be knocking on some prepared Catholic's door for help.
All this time on your hands knocking down a religion ,you just might want to be learning some survival tips instead.
A polytheistic pagan religion based on Neo-Gnosticism and emperor worship, Rome (the great whore according to Revelation 17 and Revelation 18) is "drunken with the blood of the saints" and the martyrs of Jesus. The Roman Curia is currently involved in yet another international scandal because of its protection of paedophile "clergyman." History proves that the Vatican is thoroughly corrupt, and its fictitious dogmas are merely self-serving.
@heyjenknee I am sorry Maam, but Catholicism does not teach that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross is enough to save anyone. Your church teaches a continuing system of works in order to be saved. Ephesians 2:8-9 clearly shows that salvation is by grace, through faith, NOT of works.
I have studied Roman Catholicism for many years now. No, I'm not an expert. But I know enough to see that Catholicism doesn't line up with the bible.
@SeptemberCatholic18 You are lying to yourself ~ who needs plastercasts as art when you are praying to God.
God in Exodus 20 forbids the making of any graven image in religious worship & RCs ignore this and say~its art~doesnt that sound contradictory to you
I'd rather be safe & not indulge in such practices than practice kneeling before plastercasts, and garnishing it with flowers, & lighting candles to it, it sounds like Idolatry to me can you not stick to the biblical advice & disband it ?
Paul's writing in the bible is older than darby. Darby didn't write any thing of the bible. Paul's teaching is clear there will be a Rapture, a catching away, kept Out from the wrath, and Judgement to come, not to mention other scriptures that clearly pointe the church won't be here. The darby argument is weak, very weak. Put your faith and belief in Jesus not the catholic church, it is a relationship not religion. Do you know him, or is it the church and religion that U know. John 3:16.
The bible wasn't written 200 years ago in darby days, the bible is clear in many passages, in scripture concerning the rapture, it is plain to see. To say there is no rapture at all is incorrect and calling god a liar. The people that hold to a no rapture belief are wrong plain and simple, and are the biggest minority amongst christians out there. Why would God not darby put all these scriptures saying otherwise if it wasn't true. there will be a rapture, of believers in christ.1Thess4:16-7.
The Catholic Church does go through tribulation but not the rapture. The Church never said that because it goes through the tribulation that that must now mean that there must be a rapture also. That is Darby's theology not the Catholic Church.
So the rapture is 200 year old doctrine and not biblical. Because you cannot find any council teaching the rapture. You can find Millennialism but not the rapture.
So its back to square one again. The rapture is an invention of Darby's.
Modern Jesuitical "Catholicism" is a polytheistic pagan religion based on Neo-Gnosticism and emporer worship. Rome, the great whore according to Revelation 17 and Revelation 18, is "drunken with the blood of the saints" and the martyrs of Jesus. The Roman Curia is currently involved in yet another international scandal because of its protection of paedophile "clergyman." History proves that the Vatican is thoroughly corrupt, and its fictitious dogmas are merely self-serving
Mt 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other--these must take place first before His return, no? why would God allow so many thruout history to be persecuted, yet those in the good 'ol us of a will escape it? forget it. there's coming a separation of the goats and the sheep-the wheat and the tare. help me Lord to be on the proper side
Mt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mt 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:--there's conditions that must be met b4 Christ's return. v15 abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,-this hasn't happened yet. Mt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.-it's bad, but the u.s. isn't in great tribulation cont
Haha. Jack Chick tracts? That is absolutely absent of the truth. Catholicism does not teach that we have to endure for seven years. We are in the tribulation now. And "mark of the beast" phobia is more of a Fundamentalist thing. Catholics are not sure what the mark will be.
Good Catholics get the Gospel out. I pass out tracts and I make Christian videos. My faith is in Jesus Christ and I look forward to his glorious return.
Boy do you have a shocking future ahead of you! Most of the events in the book of Revelation have not happened yet. But they will!
Rome must teach it's people that the "apocalyptic writings" are symbolic, because part of this coming 7 year period, includes the destruction of the Roman Catholic church. (Rev. 17-18)
Your current pope and John Paul 2, have called for a "new world order" on numerous occasions. They are part of the antichrist system.
And by the way, it is the Roman Catholic church that slaughtered the martyrs of Jesus Christ. The "mother church" is drunk with their blood! (Rev. 17:6)
James chapter 2 was written to the 12 Jewish tribes (Read James 1:1) which will be under faith and works during the coming 7 year "time of Jacob's trouble." (Jeremiah 30:7) This is the true name for this coming 7 year period.
Read Ephesians 2:8-9 and you will see that works (today) has absolutely nothing to do with a Christian's salvation.
There isn't any Antichrist with a capital A. You are correct. I use the terms "Antichrist" and the "great tribulation", because most people have heard these names, and know what I am talking about.
This "Antichrist" is described in 2 Thess. 2:3-4 as the "man of sin" and the "son of perdition". Verse 4 says that this man will proclaim that he is God. The only man on earth currently doing this is the pope. He calls himself "holy father" which is Almighty God's title! (John 17:11)
No, the pope does not claim to be God. The Magesterium acknowledges in the Catechism that they are subservient to God and his Word.
Many of the events which are found in Revelation have already happened under the Roman Emperor Nero. Paul was mostly writing about his time. The Catholic Church did not martyr people. You must be thinking of the state executions which were carried out in the name of the Church (when the Church did not necessarily approve these executions).
Yes it was the Roman Catholic church that slaughtered MILLIONS of Christians, NOT secular "state executions." You don't know what you are talking about.
The council of Trent contains many curses and anathemas against those who disagree with Rome. The popes have always called for extermination of "heretics". And what about the crusades and the Spanish Inquisition?
The Waldensian people of northern Italy were almost completely exterminated by the Roman Catholic church.
The pope does not claim to be God? Watch my other two videos (Other Christs Part 1 and 2) and you will see that the catechism teaches that any catholic can become God.
Oh and by the way, Paul didn't write the book of Revelation. John did. And he was most certainly NOT describing the events of his day. The plagues of the book of Revelation have NOT taken place in the past.
Actually yes I do know what I'm talking about. Ecclesiastic courts would never hand down sentences on their own. Rather, they handed heretical cases to the State and the State carried out executions.
The crusades were to protect Europe from Muslim invasion. You better thank Catholics we fought, or else you would be bowing to Mecca right now.
Anathemas are directed at heretical Catholics only. Non-Catholics are already separated from the Church.
I apologize for the error; I did mean to say John. Most of Revelation has indeed occurred. He was symbolically talking about the Roman Empire (a.k.a. the Harlot) under Emperor Nero, who killed Peter and Paul and millions of other Christians.
No, the pope does not claim to be God. You are referring to the Church's doctrine of theosis. This does NOT mean you can become God. I suggest you read what theosis is and what we mean by it. Even the Eastern Orthodox believe in theosis.
Rome, the great whore according to Revelation 17 and Revelation, is "drunken with the blood of the saints" and martyrs of Jesus. The Vatican is currently engulfed by yet another international scandal, Sergio, because of its protection of paedophile "clergymen." Repent of your jesuitical "Catholicism," which upholds the vile Roman Curia and its blasphemous pagan polytheism.
Have you altogether lost your wits or just your ability to read? No one needs to "thank God" for the Mother of Harlots and Abominations who is "drunken with the blood of the saints" and martyrs of Jesus according to Revelation 17!!
I urge you to flee Rome's moral and doctrinal corruptions, Sergio, and repudiate the Vatican's vile blasphemies and idolatries immediately lest your conscience be seared with a hot iron.
@boggymark1 I contend that all of the Church's teachings are biblical. I also will go further and say that the Church cannot be the Great Harlot. Rather, the Harlot is thought by scholars to represent apostate Jerusalem or perhaps even ancient pagan Rome under the emperor Nero. I made two videos on the Harlot which I recommend you watch if you want to hear my defense.
I urge you also, to leave the wishy-washiness of Protestantism and fall under the protective shield that is God's true Church.
Your so-called "shield" is an amoral occultist mockery of the church which the Lord Jesus Christ founded on Himself, the Rock of my Salvation.
The primary difference between voodoo and modern Jesuitical Catholicism is that Rome's "clergymen" went to seminaries sponsored by the Vatican. The other distinctions between those two vile, blasphemous, idolatrous religions are relatively minor.
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@jjpetkusiii Pure drivel. You accomplished nothing in your previous comment except to fling insults around. I could do the same to you, but I would rather save my time.
None of Rome's peculiar dogmas has any basis in the Scriptures that will stand up to even the slightest honest scrutiny as any literate man or woman who is saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone already knows.
Your indoctrination into the folly of jesuitical Neo-gnosticism is simply too obvious to hide, Sergio.
@jjpetkusiii Buddy, I am no brainwashed, Bible-illiterate Catholic. I went through my years of doubt and despair. I cried out, I prayed, and I searched the Scriptures as Paul commanded us to. What I found amazed me. I couldn't put the Bible down, and now I read it every day. I put EVERY single Catholic teaching to the test of Scripture and I didn't go easy, believe me. As a former debate captain, I would not allow myself to be wooed by any old argument. It had to be rock solid.
Salvation by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone is NOT A DEBATE, and it never has been one.
The Lord Jesus Christ (not His apostle, Paul) said, "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me" (John 5:39).
How long have you suffered from spurious memories?
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@jjpetkusiii I never said there was a debate there. We are saved by grace alone (Acts 15:11), through faith (Eph 2:8-9) which is accompanied by good works (Eph 2:10; James 2:17,24), works not of ourselves, but of God working in us.
I was referring to the many times Paul urged the Romans, Corinthians, Galatians, and his student Timothy to search the Scriptures. Vicariously, through them, he was telling us to do so.
Just as your prior comments on this excellent video speculated about foolish and unlearned questions calculated to confuse clear Biblical truth, so you also continue to post Neo-gnostic poppycock.
Salvation by grace through faith in the Son of God is of the Lord, and it not of ANY human works "lest any man should boast."
You are functioning as a blind guide into a superstitious pagan ditch.
@jjpetkusiii Okay, you can do without the insults. I never said you need human works. Ephesians 2:9-10 makes it very clear that good works are not of ourselves. They are from God, who works in us. True good works come from the Holy Spirit, not from man. Works of man are useless. Salvation comes completely by God, so that all man needs to do is accept. Once he accepts, faith and good works come from God as he allows them to.
If you agree that salvation is by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone, why do you incessantly support fictitious Vatican dogmas which deny the sufficiency of the Saviour by substituting a system of religious rituals (e.g., the fiction of "sacraments" as a means of grace) and the idolatrous worship of a "queen of heaven" Mediatrix???
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@jjpetkusiii The Sacraments are not human works, they are gifts from God which we freely receive from God. We don't worship Mary. My my, you have so many misconceptions. I have a video for the misconception about the Sacraments as works. Just type "sacraments works" in YouTube and I'm the first video. I also have a channel called ArmoredCatholic.
The words "apostolic succession," "sacrament," "magisterium," "charismatic movement" and "ecumenism" are absent from the Holy Scriptures, which clearly instructs regenerated believers in the Lord Jesus Christ that He is their Mediator and that no further sacrifice is necessary. Sprinkling an infant has no relationship to being saved by grace through faith in the Son of God alone, and the mass is a wicked fable that mocks the shed blood of the Saviour who died once for all.
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@jjpetkusiii That's horrible logic. Neither are the following words and phrases found in Scripture: rapture, Holy Trinity, incarnation, faith alone, Scripture alone, Bible. Yet I assume you accept all of these doctrines and concepts. Just because the explicit word is absent from Scripture does not mean that the concept is also absent!
I would contend that all the phrases you mentioned are in Scripture, perhaps not the explicit words, but certainly the concepts are!
Your response is sheer obscurnatism, and you have the logical intellect of mental retardate or the literacy of six-year-old if you suppose otherwise.
While the categories like Sola Scriptura may be inferred logically on the basis of the Holy Scripture, none of the self-serving dogmas of Rome, the great whore, qualify as anything other than devilish frauds promoted with reckless indifference to their damnable deceit of lost men and women.
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@jjpetkusiii Hmm. Six-year old? Mental retardate? I think this conversation has lost all seriousness, and you have been reduced to mere insults. Have a nice day.
Like any popish ideologue, you fail to read the Holy Bible as anything other than a haphazard array of isolated lexemes which the jesuitical sophists who trained you in your useless "apologetics" employ to rationalize the Vatican's moral corruption and wresting of Scriptures simply to uphold the political prestige of the Roman Curia and its current Caesar-Pope Idol Shepherd (who formerly headed the successor office to the Inquisition).
Despite centuries of obfuscation by Vatican toadies, what the Holy Bible instructs about the Roman Curia and its blasphemous Pontifices Maximi is undeniably clear.
"And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration" (Revelation 17:6).
"And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth" (Revelation 17:18).
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth" (Exodus 20:4).
"Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen" (Deuteronomy 27:15).
@boggymark1 God was condemning idols. He did not forbid artwork used to draw our minds towards God (Exodus 25:18-22; 26:1,31; Numbers 21:8-9; 1 Kings 6:23-36; 7:27-39; 8:6-8; 1 Chronicles 28:18-19; 2 Chronicles 3:7-14; Ezekiel 41:15).
In all your dwellingplaces the cities shall be laid waste, and the high places shall be desolate; that your altars may be laid waste and made desolate, and your idols may be broken and cease, and your images may be cut down, and your works may be abolished" (Ezekiel 6:6).
"And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion" (Ezekiel 23:14)
Nowhere does the Holy Bible instruct anyone to employ "artwork used to draw our minds towards God," but that simply does not matter to Vatican toadies who adhere to the polytheistic cult of Caesar-Pope worship sponsored by the Roman Curia.
@boggymark1 Here is where God commands statues and images to be made for HOLY purposes: Exodus 25:18-22; 26:1,31; Numbers 21:8-9; 1 Kings 6:23-36; 7:27-39; 8:6-8; 1 Chronicles 28:18-19; 2 Chronicles 3:7-14; Ezekiel 41:15
The references that you cited from Exodus to Ezekiel do not pertain to "artwork used to draw our minds towards God," but they are specific ordinances under the Mosaic Law which along with the Levitical priesthood have been abolished since the veil of the Temple in Zion was rent in two.
The popish "clergy" fraudulently apes a typology and system of sacrifice that the Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled in its own hybrid of self-reighteous paganism and fictitious legalism
@jjpetkusiii That's a bogus reply. God forbade idols in the same book in which he commanded holy images to be made (Exodus). Obviously, he forbade the kind of images that were being worshiped (like the golden calf), NOT images that are meant to be used for God's glory.
No, your reply is ludicrous because there is no temple in Jerusalem, and the Lord Jesus Christ is properly worshipped in Spirit and truth. No jesuitical house of idols has ever houses the Holy Ghost, and the very essence of "Catholicism," i.e., universalism, contradicts the Son of God who said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh to the Father but by me."
Mecca and Rome are two peas in the same pod, but most Moslems are not as blatantly idolatrous.
@jjpetkusiii I never said anything about a temple. God commanded many holy images to be made PERIOD. You can't wiggle out of that one. The bronze snake, the golden cherubim, the ark, and so on. You can't seem to accept the fact that God condemned worshiping IDOLS; he did not simply condemn all religious images, only the ones which were being worshiped.
Stop cavilling: the LORD did not command "many holy images to be made," but Rome has its "clegymen" officiate in idolatrous latria where the great whore's adherents kiss statues. The ark in the tabernacle, by the way, was a wooden box and its dimensions were specificed, just as Noah's ark was made according to precise dimensions for a practical purpose. A single (not many) brazen serpent pictured the Redeemer on precisely one occasion.
@jjpetkusiii You conviniently ignored the several times God commands gold cherubim to be made. As for the serpent, all it takes it once my friend. God clearly has no objection to using holy objects that REPRESENT holy people. You said it yourself. Latria is not given to statues. Learn it before you trash it.
There is nothing "holy" about the idolatry which your incessantly advocate, and the worship of idols sanctifies no one. Rather, it is cursed by God, just like Rome, the great whore according to Revelation17 and Revelation 18.
There is no blessing anywhere on "objects" except in the darkened imaginations of heather idolators like the popish ideologues who are often obsessed with such abominations.
@jjpetkusiii We do not worship, pray to, or honor statues and images. Rather, we direct all of our worship to God alone, and honor only those who deserve it (Rom 13:7). The statues and images only serve to remind us of the holy ones and keep them in mind. That is all. Any sign of reverence displayed near a statue or image is directed at the thing it represents, NOT at the statue or image itself.
Somebody is going to be disappointed to learn that since many millions of popish Romanists have been told to keep "holy objects" and "revere them" by their jesuitical "clergymen."
Of course, the Holy Bible is not and was never intended to be a field manual room for Shining Path terrorists or a chat room for Opus Dei flagellants or prelates who protect paedophiles.
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@jjpetkusiii Yes, they will be very disappointed. The Church very clearly forbids treating statues and images as idols in the Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraphs 2112-2114. They are to draw our focus to God and the holy ones period. They do not become the object of honor themselves.
If you don't know that what that your latest post is utter nonsense, I doubt that you will ever learn any sound Biblical doctrine. The Vatican has no intention of ending its promotion of graven images precisely because it opposes the Lord Jesus Christ, as well as His bride, and "the holy ones," as characterized Rome's polytheism, are in fact the devils behind its idolatrous worship. There is one God, but there are many Roman statues of demons.
"If you don't know that what that your latest post is utter nonsense..."
That sentence was nonsense. You're clearly not interested in even listening to me, so there is no point in responding further. You hold tight to your corrupted and false views of the Church. I tried to inform you.
My last post had a redundant typographical error which you attempt to exploit because you don't want Rome, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations, exposed as the biggest promoter of blasphemous idolatry in world history. Well, that is not your decision to make since the Scriptures have already revealed her as the great whore, and despite the Vatican's propaganda efforts the long-standing paedophile scandals involving the Roman Curia are not being ignored by the media.
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." Ex. 20:4 KJV
I am quite sure this extends to LIKENESSES of MARY, whom I presume IS IN HEAVEN!
@ziggy2sound4u Here is where God commands statues and images to be made for HOLY purposes: Exodus 25:18-22; 26:1,31; Numbers 21:8-9; 1 Kings 6:23-36; 7:27-39; 8:6-8; 1 Chronicles 28:18-19; 2 Chronicles 3:7-14; Ezekiel 41:15
@husky394xp "Millions of Christians"? Name these Christians please. I don't mean individually, I mean what region, local or denomination (if they weren't Catholic)...This should be good :¬)
@TheManGadoosh The body of Christ is the "church" which will be leaving soon. (1 Thess. 4:16-18, 1 Cor. 15:51-58, Rev. 4:1-2) There isn't any denomination which is exclusively "saved". Although I will say that a LARGE number of the people leaving will be Baptists. There will be people from other denominations leaving too. Maybe even a few Catholics who made the "mistake" of putting their FAITH in Jesus Christ ALONE for their salvation. (Eph. 2:8-9)
The word "Christian" is found exactly three times in the Holy Scriptures, and "Christianity" means the relationship that a man or woman who is saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone has with his or her Saviour as his disciple.
The Son of God said, "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again" (John 3:7).
Clearly, Catholic dogma is very significant to you, but when were you born again?
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@ziggy2sound4u False. Vicar more accurately means representative. For instance, when we say that we speak "vicariously" through someone, we mean that we are speaking through them, as if they represent us. The vicar of Christ is merely the instrument which Christ uses to speak through if the need arises. For instance, Jesus declared through the pope that abortion is an intrinsic evil, echoing what Scripture and Apostolic Tradition has always taught us. You can disagree, but at least get it right.
The Son of God never decreed anything through a blasphemer like Pontifex Maximus Benedictus XVI (a.k.a. Josef Ratzinger, a former member of the Hitler Jugend) who claims infallibility which is an attribute of the LORD alone.
The rhetorical posturings of a Caesar-Pope Idol Shepherd constitute nothing but Rome's laughable pretensions to pre-eminence above the Lord Jesus Christ and the truth of the Holy Scriptures.
The LATIN translate EXACTLY as SUBSTITUTE, and in fact, SOME Popes have made it plain as to EXACTLY what it means, when they have called themselves Lord God Almighty ON earth........................................
@ziggy2sound4u I'm not denying that it can be translated as "substitute." I'm saying that's not how we use it. Vicarius can also be translated to mean "deputy" or "steward," which is the way we use it. The pope is the steward of Christ, similar to the stewardship described in Isaiah 22:22.
If any pope has said he is Lord God, he was wrong. Period. That is not the teaching of the Catholic Church, and nothing you say can change that. The Church professes "One God" in the Creed, and One God alone.
Thats how YOU attempt to translate it. "Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, .... thou art finally another God on earth." Christopher Marcellus in Oration addressing Pope Julius II, in Fifth Lateran Council, Session IV (1512), Council Edition. Colm. Agrip. 1618, (Sacrorum Conciliorum, J.D. Mansi (ed.), Vol. 32, col. 761), (also quoted in History of the Councils, vol. XIV, col 109, by Labbe and Cossart).
Popes God on earth cont... "To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical." The Gloss of Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, Cum. Inter, title 14, chapter 4, "Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium", Column 140, Paris, 1685. (In an Antwerp edition of the Extravagantes, the words, "Dominum Deum Nostrum Papam" (Our Lord God the Pope)can be found in column 153).
Popes God on earth cont... "Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God...what do you make of me but God?" Decretales Domini Gregori ix Translatione Episcoporum, (on the Transference of Bishops), title 7, chapter 3; Corpus Juris Canonice (2nd Leipzig ed., 1881), col. 99; (Paris, 1612), tom. 2, Decretales, col. 205 (while Innocent III was Pope)
Popes God on earth cont... "The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth...by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians.... the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth." Quoted in the New York Catechism.
Popes God on earth cont.... "...the Pope is as it were God on earth..." Lucius Ferraris, in "Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica", Volume V, article on "Papa, Article II", titled "Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility", #1, 5, 13-15, 18, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition.
Popes God on earth cont... ...We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty..." Pope Leo XIII, in Praeclara Gratulationis Publicae (The Reunion of Christendom), Encyclical promulgated on June 20, 1894.
So, we see that Popes not only have called themselves,"God on earth", but other high "Church" authorities have referred to them as "God on earth" and it was an accepted title for them, SeptemberCatholic18.
@ziggy2sound4u There is no such thing as a "New York Catechism." That is a spurious source that anti-Catholics invented. It doesn't actually exist, and no one has ever heard of it except anti-Catholics. Even if a Catechism said such a thing, it would be wrong. The Catholic Church does not teach that the pope is God PERIOD.
Press censorship is a fact of life almost everywhere the Vatican holds sway, but the Lord has nonetheless preserved the Holy Scriptures. "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (2Thes. 2:3ff)
The equivalency of ancient texts which are not part of the Holy Bible with the Scriptures themselves is also a constant theme in Papist dogma, spewed from the Vatican and its predecessors (e.g., the Lateran Palace), which shifts with the ease of quicksand with the papacy's economic or political agenda.
Pagan Rome morphed into the Papal Curia from Constantine's reign onward, and the current Caesar-Pope Idol Shepherd, Benedict XVI, is the successor of Nero and Caligula, not Peter.
The Lord Jesus Christ is not honored and glorified when men and women depart from the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV), which testifies of Him and preserves the Old and New Testaments without error, omission or addition.
The wicked "zeitgeistlich" Satanic spirit of relativistic secular humanism and universalism, i.e., "catholicism," saturates the contempo apostate mistranslations of Scriptures into inferior, misleading and incorrect English.
In fact, ALL these "New Versions" are nothing but plagiarism of the original corruption of Origin's 5th column of the Hexapla, thus are not "New" at all.
It is a well known fact, that Origin was NOT a fundamentalist.................
That a political cabal like the Roman Curia would ever attempt by flimsy jesuitical sophistry even to masquerade as the "church" which the Lord Jesus Christ founded on Himself, the Rock of my Salvation, often defies description. Anyone who knows history and can also read English may promptly understand Rome, the great whore according to Revelation 17 and Revelation 18, for what she truly is.
What I fail to understand, is that this SAME information is available in ENGLISH, for ANYONE to read, yet Catholic cultists deny these fundamental truths!
They require much prayer to escape the these devils.
It is NOT like I am "Einstein", yet even I see how a small cult started in Rome by the magician Simon Magus mentioned in Acts, BECAME the R.C.C.!
Interestingly, Polycarp does NOT even mention Peter by name, elevating Paul, as the one whose teachings one should follow!
@ziggy2sound4u Sadly, for some who think that a pathetic Alexandrian heretic who castrated himself is the author of the Holy Scriptures, Brother, indeed their "other Jesus" is not the "Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world." They are those lost men who know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.
For the English-speaking peoples, the AV1611 (KJV) is the Holy Bible, which unfailingly testifies of the Lord Jesus Christ in our native language legible today.
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (2Thessalonians 2:3ff).
The video is excellent. You are absolutely correct, I know I want to live right believing in a pre-trib rapture each day. In contrast, I feel like collecting soup cans & water with a post-trib view. I believe we all need to be prepared with survival items whether we believe post-trib or pre-trib! Of course the Bible is the authority over feelings.
Thanks for the info concerning the Catholic church as well. I have some studying to do.
The way the economy is going, I am certainly for having some food, water, survival goodies,etc. I just am not planning to "survive" the coming 7 year great tribulation.
Things might get pretty rough BEFORE the rapture.
Thank you for your words of encouragment, "John6verse27"!
I dont believe in the 7 year tribulation. I believe in a 42 month tribulation. Good information though. You have the same mind I do even though. I believe we should be trying to get as many people saved as we can. My church doesnt go soul winning enough.
Raphmattic 1 day ago
You got it! We will DEFEND UNTIL THE END! ARE you afraid to die for our Lord? Our early Christian brothers & sisters never believed in a rapture! NO it was NOT Darby.It was a little girl in the 1800's in Scotland who had a dream.It's a hoax.You are not a Christian! Would you die for Jesus? Go to your death clinging to Jesus? You need to get out of your half church.Why not go to a COMPLETE CHURCH.
sweet161402 2 weeks ago
Where do you get this 7 year trib.? Did you know that the letter "J" is less than 500 years old.Do you know what the Father's name is?Did you know that the meek shall inherit the EARTH? Did you know that no one is going to heaven? Did you know that "Thy kingdom come"?...on earth.Did you ever read ACTS 14:22? Dude you really are mistaken.
doublej1963 1 month ago
Paul himself even said that the dead would rise first THEN those alive would be caught up in the air!Read that in 1 Thessalonians chapter 3 verses 13 - 18.
So that means to pinpoint the Rapture of us alive is to pinpoint the Rapture of the dead...since that will happen 1st. When does Jesus "Rapture" the dead? The Bible CLEARLY states that the rising of the dead, which will happen first, is on The Last Day. Read for yourself...(John 6:39, 40, 44, 54; 11:24; 12:48) No Rapture before Trial, sorry
jdb086 1 month ago
Not to mention, Catholics DO believe that Christ can come at any time! If he had read the Catechism, he would have learned, section 673, "Since the Ascension, Christ's coming in glory has been imminent, even though, 'it is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has fixed by his own authority.' This eschatological coming could be accomplished AT ANY MOMENT, even if both it and the final trial that will precede it are 'delayed'.
jdb086 1 month ago
unbelievable. Catholics are Christians. That's where Christianity comes from or at least thats where all Protestants faith derives!!! Just look at the word PROTESTant...it means to Protest. So when Paul the Apostle says that there should be no Factions among you and bickering and disagreeing....you decide to Protest the earliest Christian Church.
jdb086 1 month ago
Christians have Jesus as his savior, and not pray to an idol like mary, and Jesus is the one u shud pray
KevinEli77 2 months ago
@KevinEli77 No Catholic Worships Mary. Catholics believe in Intersession. You would too if the Protestant Reformation, Martin Luther, had not taken out the books of Maccabees out of the Bible. Which is a true teaching of Christian faith. Through Intersession, we are to ask those who live Eternally with Christ to offer up prayers on our behalf...When we are with Christ Jesus said we will be like the Angels in Heaven, (Matthew 22:23-30) I
jdb086 1 month ago
@KevinEli77 And if rest with Jesus in Heaven, we are then like Angels, and Angels Pray for us...says so in the Bible, (Rev. 8:3–4) & (Rev. 5:8) & (Matt. 18:10). All you have to do is research before you open your mouth. The internet is at your fingertips, yet you quickly Judge before you research it...Paul the Apostle says, "but test everything; hold fast what is good" 1 Thessalonians 5:21
jdb086 1 month ago
One very sad individual ranting in ignorance....
kevinjjfr 2 months ago
I believe in the millennium, BUT...
At the Council of Ephesus, there was no talk specifically of "the rapture" as is taught today. The Catholics mistakenly thought they were in the process of setting up the "symbolic" "millennial reign" by creating a worldwide church.
It's sad that the website just combined the two together (rapture and millennial reign) as a strawman type argument instead of using scripture...As for the 1500ish timeframe, Martin Luther and John Calvin both were amillennialist.
Ministering2People 6 months ago
yawn
tacotony24 8 months ago
CAN YOU EXPLAIN MATT.24:29????
doublej1963 9 months ago
@doublej1963 Really and truly, to get a better understanding of that particular verse I would read a larger portion of the scripture, such as Matt. 24:20-35. Jesus is talking about His coming and the tribulation that the elect or chosen ones of God will go through before He Returns...He is speaking about the last days. Notice there is nothing in there that mentions, a Rapture, before these tribulations...
jdb086 1 month ago
Well, i forgot to post link. theni learned you can't post links. Sigh.
Ok well i would like for you to check out biblechristiansociety and look for a mp3 download called Rapture and the bible. give me your thoughts on it if you want.
jodust75 9 months ago
I think its great you getting out there and preaching for what you believe. I am Catholic and do not agree with most of what you preach, but thats ok. I won't be little or demonize what you believe, We wont get any where with that type of rhetoric.
I would like to invite you to listen to a catholic perspective on "End TImes". You single out the Catholic Church on this subject. but Actually, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Episcopal and Methodist also should be included
jodust75 9 months ago
Catholics are praying for you sir.
AK8591 1 year ago 3
Your first premise is just nonsense. The catholic church condemns ideas both things that were taught, and things that they wish to prevent to be taught. But even IF it was taught, it doesn't mean it's biblical or that Christ wished us to believe it.
defgill 1 year ago
Rabbi Joachim Prinz in 1934 wrote a book in favor of Hitler called Wir Juden, does this mean Judaism supported the Nazis too? The Concordat has nothing to do with the church gaining power, it was about the church in germany not being crushed by the nazis
OrthodoxCatholic1 1 year ago
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. --Matthew 13:30
So much for the pretrib rapture.
BTW thanks for adopting the word rapture from our bible translation the Latin Vulgate
OrthodoxCatholic1 1 year ago
May God forgive you for attacking his sacred Church.
redbaron998 1 year ago
@redbaron998 What is the name of God's "sacred Church"? Could you please give me a verse from the Bible showing this name.
husky394xp 1 year ago
@husky394xp
The Church is described in Scripture as being identifiable by four Marks.
One: (Rom. 12:5, 1 Cor. 10:17, 12:13, CCC 813–822)
Holy (Eph. 5:25–27, Rev. 19:7–8, CCC 823–829)
Catholic (Matt. 28:19–20, Rev. 5:9–10, CCC 830–856)
Apostolic (Eph. 2:19–20, CCC 857–865)
(Cathechism of the Catholic Church references provided for easy reference.)
redbaron998 1 year ago
@redbaron998 I asked you to provide the NAME of God's "sacred church". The word "catholic" does NOT appear in Matthew 28:19-20, Revelation 5:9-10, or ANYWHERE else in the Bible!
Yet I am supposed to believe that the catholic "church" is the one true church?
My faith is founded on SCRIPTURE ALONE! Not on a man made system of good works like Roman Catholicism. I have studied Catholicism for years, and it does NOT appear in scripture. (Other than Revelation 17-18!)
husky394xp 1 year ago
@husky394xp
This is because you are operating on a false premises, that is the man made doctrine of Scripture Alone, Nowhere does the bible advocate this position and actually speaks against it.
And if you have been "Studying" Catholicism for years than you should know that the word Catholic means Universal, which is what Matthew 28:19 is speaking of (Go ye therefore, and teach all nations...")
redbaron998 1 year ago
@redbaron998 Yes I know that "catholic" means universal. My point is that the word "catholic" isn't from the Bible, but rather from Greek philosphy.
The Bible doesn't advocate "Scripture Alone"?
"Making the word of God of none effect through your TRADITION, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye." (Mark 7:13) Jesus condemned the RC/Pharisee position of holding man made traditions above scripture.
2 Tim. 3:16-17 says scripture, NOT tradition. There are many more verses
husky394xp 1 year ago
@husky394xp
Mark 7:13 is clearly talking claiming that money is given to God so that they could avoid helping thier parents, it has nothing whatsoever to do with Sola Scriptura.
redbaron998 1 year ago
@husky394xp
2 Timothy states that scripture is inspired and profitable for doctrine, teaching, etc.. Indeed certainly it is is profitable. Yet Profitable does not at all mean that it is the sole role of faith to the exclusion of all others. If it did then Paul would be meaning the Old Testament is sufficent as that was all they had at the time. It was not till later that the Catholic Church defined the New Testament Canon.
redbaron998 1 year ago
@husky394xp If Catholicism is not the one true church, then where is the one true church. Jesus says in Matthew 16;18 that the gates of hell will never overpower his church. So was Jesus a liar? What happened to that church he started?
100PercentCatholic 1 year ago
@100PercentCatholic The true church is still here. I am part of it. The church is a living group of born again believers in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Roman Catholicism showed up around 200 years AFTER the completion of the New Testament. They added many things that have no basis in scripture. Even the name "Catholic" was taken from Greek philosophy, and NOT the Bible.
The Catholic church has suffered for centuries with scandals and corruption. The current pedophile problem is just the latest
husky394xp 1 year ago
@husky394xp It's not that Catholicism is not biblical, it is just that your current pastor's interpretation of the bible differs from the Catholic church's interpretation. Me and you could argue all day about what the bible says and what it really means. That is why I urge people who have objections to the Catholic faith to go and read the writings of our early Church fathers. The people closest to Christ. You would be surprised how Catholic their writings are.
100PercentCatholic 1 year ago
@100PercentCatholic "It's not that Catholicism is not biblical"?
1. Mary worship. 1 Tim. 2:5 says that the ONE mediator between God and man in Jesus Christ, NOT Mary.
2. The office of pope. 1 Tim. 3:1-6 says a Bishop is to be the HUSBAND of one WIFE. Peter was married, and never was given total control of the church.
3. Forced celibacy. Condemned in 1 Tim. 4:3 and 1 Cor. 7 which says a man should marry if he is "burning" with lust. This is why your priests have sex perversion problems.
husky394xp 1 year ago
@husky394xp The church does not force celibacy. You willingly choose that when you become a priest. "Whoever can accept this ought to accept it" (Matt 19:10-12). In 1 Cor 7:32-35 Saint Paul talks about how a celibate man is free to dedicate himself to things of the lord.
To say that priests have sex perversion problems because of celibacy is a huge inaccuracy. I mean, I live a celibate life because I am unmarried and I promise you I have no desire to molest kids. visit reformation . com
100PercentCatholic 1 year ago
@100PercentCatholic Does the Catholic church allow one of their priests to marry if he feels a need to? No they do not. So yes it is forced.
Being a single man does not automatically make you into a sex pervert. I agree. But when a single man is forced to sit in a confessional booth and ask questions to married women and young children about their sexual thoughts and sins, it WILL mess him up! Auricular confession is unscriptural. SINS are to be confessed to God. (1 John 1:9)
husky394xp 1 year ago
@husky394xp John 20:21-23 clearly shows Jesus giving the apostles the authority to forgive sins. But do you see the point I was trying to make in my original post? We can throw bible verses at each other all day. We both pray to the Holy Spirit before reading the bible to guide us to the truth. So what makes your Holy Spirit right and mine wrong? You see, having an infallible book means nothing if you don't have an infallible interpreter, the church. Read 2 Peter 1:20
100PercentCatholic 1 year ago
@100PercentCatholic 2 Peter 1:20 shows why I am so much against Catholicism. Because they claim to be the ONLY true church, and the ONLY interpreters of the Bible. They are the ones guilty of "private interpretation". Since Catholicism's beginnings, they have persecuted and killed anyone who opposed them.
You call the Catholic church an "infallible interpreter"? Yet history has shown that Catholic doctrines and teachings are FAR from infallible! Many of the popes contradicted one another.
husky394xp 1 year ago
@husky394xp You really didn't answer my question. What makes your holy spirit right and mine wrong? The bible clearly does not interpret itself as their are thousands of denominations out there who all believe something different? So what is a Christian to do? How do you find the truth? How do you know who has the correct interpretation of the bible?
100PercentCatholic 1 year ago
@100PercentCatholic Your "Holy Spirit" is actually your Catholic church traditions. Like most other "churches" you believe what you are told. When your beliefs are contradicted by the Bible, you will ignore the Bible and cling to tradition. (Mark 7:13)
The fact is that salvation is by grace through faith and NOT of works. (Eph. 2:8-9) Jesus died once for sin. (Heb. 10:10-14) He doesn't need to be re-sacrificed on a daily basis! The Holy Spirit cannot speak to you as a lost man. (Eph. 2:1-3)
husky394xp 1 year ago
@husky394xp Your posts prove that you only care about spreading lies and not the truth.
1) We don't re-sacrifice him on a daily basis. His one sacrifice is made present to us at every mass.
2) We believe salvation is through faith and works, not works alone like you are implying.
3) We don't worship Mary like you claimed in a previous post.
But since yours is the correct Holy Spirit and mine seems to be confused, I guess you are right and the thousand of other denominations are wrong.
100PercentCatholic 1 year ago
@husky394xp The bible itself is a TRADITION, the list of the books in the bible itself is a tradition, The apostles accepted many Jewish traditions that were not found in the bible. Jesus condemned the traditions of MEN, not of God. The Catholic Church does not teach the impious man is justifed by our own works, that is Pelagian, only after we receieve grace do good works justify as James says. Again we believe Christ died once. I do not know what you are getting at by Eph 2:1-3. I
OrthodoxCatholic1 1 year ago
@husky394xp the Catholic Church recognizes the Orthodox and Oriental churches as bein true churches
I do not know why you would debate saying we believe we are the only interpreters, logically there is only one correct reading of the Scripture (not to say there cannot be multiple readings of one verse being correct).
I do not see you point about killing, Moses' law did similar, Protestants did similar, so what?
Far from infallible and contradictions like what? learn the circumstance
OrthodoxCatholic1 1 year ago
@husky394xp Priests can get married if they agree to be defrocked. Since the times of the apostles a person get married while simultaneously serving as a priest.
They were on the other hand allowed to be married before ordination.
Priests do not ask questions questions looking for detail, they only want the sin committed and the number of times, i was never asked about my sexual thoughts and sins. Sin is to be confessed to God, we believe that confession is confessing to God
OrthodoxCatholic1 1 year ago
@husky394xp No Mary worship. Some of the early bishop were married before ordination, but with the case of Peter it seems his wife most likely was dead. Peter alone was give the keys of the Kingdom, none other. Forced celilbacy is not done, they made the vow to God, Scripture says to keep vows to God.
Even many Protestant clerics have sexual perversion problems, even the married ones
OrthodoxCatholic1 1 year ago
Look up "Rapture Theory - Tim Staples" on Youtube. You'll see what Luke has to say about the rapture.
kephaisrock 1 year ago
If it wasn't for the Catholic church, there would be no Christianity.. The Catholic church was and is the first church of Christ... to say they are not Christians is a lie from Satan. Whatever religion of Christianity you call yourself, it would have came about if it wasn't for the Catholic church and that's a fact jack.
redwingsred74 1 year ago
@redwingsred74 Waldensians, Vaudois, Donatists, and many other Christian groups were around since the first century. The pagan Catholic church showed up in the 4th century under Constantine. The Roman empire was crumbling as a political power, and so it morphed into a "church" around 350 AD. They then set out to kill most of the early Christians so that they could claim that the Roman Catholic church was the first!
I have studied Catholicism for years. It is NOT Christianity!
husky394xp 1 year ago
@husky394xp Well believe what you will.. I still think they are Christians.
redwingsred74 1 year ago
Catholics are Christians, bottom line and you are a fool ( and acting very UN-Christian) to say otherwise. You are also a fool to think you are so sure that YOU are going to experience a pre-trib rapture. If it does not happen to you , is it then you'll be knocking on some prepared Catholic's door for help.
All this time on your hands knocking down a religion ,you just might want to be learning some survival tips instead.
heyjenknee 1 year ago
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A polytheistic pagan religion based on Neo-Gnosticism and emperor worship, Rome (the great whore according to Revelation 17 and Revelation 18) is "drunken with the blood of the saints" and the martyrs of Jesus. The Roman Curia is currently involved in yet another international scandal because of its protection of paedophile "clergyman." History proves that the Vatican is thoroughly corrupt, and its fictitious dogmas are merely self-serving.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago
@heyjenknee
What you wrote as comments on this video sounds strange, but it also contradicts the Holy Scriptures.
Rome, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations according to Revelation 17, is "drunken with the blood of the saints" and the martyrs of Jesus.
Pontifex Maximus Benedictus XVI is the successor to Nero and Julius Caesar, but not to Peter the Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ.
boggymark1 1 year ago 4
Of course Catholic are Christians !! That is ridiculous to say we are not Christians and insulting. We believe the Lord Jesus Christ is our savior.
heyjenknee 1 year ago
@heyjenknee I am sorry Maam, but Catholicism does not teach that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross is enough to save anyone. Your church teaches a continuing system of works in order to be saved. Ephesians 2:8-9 clearly shows that salvation is by grace, through faith, NOT of works.
I have studied Roman Catholicism for many years now. No, I'm not an expert. But I know enough to see that Catholicism doesn't line up with the bible.
husky394xp 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18 You are lying to yourself ~ who needs plastercasts as art when you are praying to God.
God in Exodus 20 forbids the making of any graven image in religious worship & RCs ignore this and say~its art~doesnt that sound contradictory to you
I'd rather be safe & not indulge in such practices than practice kneeling before plastercasts, and garnishing it with flowers, & lighting candles to it, it sounds like Idolatry to me can you not stick to the biblical advice & disband it ?
glizag 1 year ago 4
Paul's writing in the bible is older than darby. Darby didn't write any thing of the bible. Paul's teaching is clear there will be a Rapture, a catching away, kept Out from the wrath, and Judgement to come, not to mention other scriptures that clearly pointe the church won't be here. The darby argument is weak, very weak. Put your faith and belief in Jesus not the catholic church, it is a relationship not religion. Do you know him, or is it the church and religion that U know. John 3:16.
MrPsalm141 1 year ago
The bible wasn't written 200 years ago in darby days, the bible is clear in many passages, in scripture concerning the rapture, it is plain to see. To say there is no rapture at all is incorrect and calling god a liar. The people that hold to a no rapture belief are wrong plain and simple, and are the biggest minority amongst christians out there. Why would God not darby put all these scriptures saying otherwise if it wasn't true. there will be a rapture, of believers in christ.1Thess4:16-7.
MrPsalm141 1 year ago
The Catholic Church does go through tribulation but not the rapture. The Church never said that because it goes through the tribulation that that must now mean that there must be a rapture also. That is Darby's theology not the Catholic Church.
So the rapture is 200 year old doctrine and not biblical. Because you cannot find any council teaching the rapture. You can find Millennialism but not the rapture.
So its back to square one again. The rapture is an invention of Darby's.
TheManGadoosh 1 year ago
@TheManGadoosh
Modern Jesuitical "Catholicism" is a polytheistic pagan religion based on Neo-Gnosticism and emporer worship. Rome, the great whore according to Revelation 17 and Revelation 18, is "drunken with the blood of the saints" and the martyrs of Jesus. The Roman Curia is currently involved in yet another international scandal because of its protection of paedophile "clergyman." History proves that the Vatican is thoroughly corrupt, and its fictitious dogmas are merely self-serving
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 4
Actually its the heresy of Millennialism that is wrote about on the website. Not the rapture.
As the website states "It forms part of a millenial expectation"
Darby added to an existing heresy i.e. millennialism. Just as the JW's have done with the heresy of Arianism.
No where does the council of Ephesus or any other council ever mention the rapture.
It mentions Millennialism, but not the rapture.
TheManGadoosh 1 year ago
Mt 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other--these must take place first before His return, no? why would God allow so many thruout history to be persecuted, yet those in the good 'ol us of a will escape it? forget it. there's coming a separation of the goats and the sheep-the wheat and the tare. help me Lord to be on the proper side
filoIII 2 years ago
Mt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
filoIII 2 years ago
Mt 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:--there's conditions that must be met b4 Christ's return. v15 abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,-this hasn't happened yet. Mt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.-it's bad, but the u.s. isn't in great tribulation cont
filoIII 2 years ago
Haha. Jack Chick tracts? That is absolutely absent of the truth. Catholicism does not teach that we have to endure for seven years. We are in the tribulation now. And "mark of the beast" phobia is more of a Fundamentalist thing. Catholics are not sure what the mark will be.
Good Catholics get the Gospel out. I pass out tracts and I make Christian videos. My faith is in Jesus Christ and I look forward to his glorious return.
SeptemberCatholic18 2 years ago
So I guess you would say that the judgments of the seven seals, 7 trumpets, and 7 vials (written about in the book of Revelation) are all symbolic?
If we are in the tribulation right now, when did it start? Who is the Antichrist?
Your "faith is in Jesus Christ"? Well if you believe you are saved by faith ALONE, then you are condemned by the Council of Trent.
I personally wouldn't condemn you because salvation today IS by faith alone, in the blood of Jesus Christ shed at calvary.
husky394xp 2 years ago
Yes, they are symbolic. Historically, apocalyptic writings have always included heavy symbolism.
The tribulation started as soon as Christ ascended to heaven. Christians were martyred then and we still are being persecuted today.
There are many antichrists. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist (1 John 2:22). There is no "Antichrist" with a capital A.
Actually, faith alone is condemned by James 2:17. Only time "faith" and "alone" are used together in the Holy Bible (KJV).
SeptemberCatholic18 2 years ago
Boy do you have a shocking future ahead of you! Most of the events in the book of Revelation have not happened yet. But they will!
Rome must teach it's people that the "apocalyptic writings" are symbolic, because part of this coming 7 year period, includes the destruction of the Roman Catholic church. (Rev. 17-18)
Your current pope and John Paul 2, have called for a "new world order" on numerous occasions. They are part of the antichrist system.
husky394xp 2 years ago
And by the way, it is the Roman Catholic church that slaughtered the martyrs of Jesus Christ. The "mother church" is drunk with their blood! (Rev. 17:6)
James chapter 2 was written to the 12 Jewish tribes (Read James 1:1) which will be under faith and works during the coming 7 year "time of Jacob's trouble." (Jeremiah 30:7) This is the true name for this coming 7 year period.
Read Ephesians 2:8-9 and you will see that works (today) has absolutely nothing to do with a Christian's salvation.
husky394xp 2 years ago
There isn't any Antichrist with a capital A. You are correct. I use the terms "Antichrist" and the "great tribulation", because most people have heard these names, and know what I am talking about.
This "Antichrist" is described in 2 Thess. 2:3-4 as the "man of sin" and the "son of perdition". Verse 4 says that this man will proclaim that he is God. The only man on earth currently doing this is the pope. He calls himself "holy father" which is Almighty God's title! (John 17:11)
husky394xp 2 years ago 2
No, the pope does not claim to be God. The Magesterium acknowledges in the Catechism that they are subservient to God and his Word.
Many of the events which are found in Revelation have already happened under the Roman Emperor Nero. Paul was mostly writing about his time. The Catholic Church did not martyr people. You must be thinking of the state executions which were carried out in the name of the Church (when the Church did not necessarily approve these executions).
Jack Chick brainwashed.
SeptemberCatholic18 2 years ago
Yes it was the Roman Catholic church that slaughtered MILLIONS of Christians, NOT secular "state executions." You don't know what you are talking about.
The council of Trent contains many curses and anathemas against those who disagree with Rome. The popes have always called for extermination of "heretics". And what about the crusades and the Spanish Inquisition?
The Waldensian people of northern Italy were almost completely exterminated by the Roman Catholic church.
husky394xp 2 years ago 3
The pope does not claim to be God? Watch my other two videos (Other Christs Part 1 and 2) and you will see that the catechism teaches that any catholic can become God.
Oh and by the way, Paul didn't write the book of Revelation. John did. And he was most certainly NOT describing the events of his day. The plagues of the book of Revelation have NOT taken place in the past.
husky394xp 2 years ago 3
Actually yes I do know what I'm talking about. Ecclesiastic courts would never hand down sentences on their own. Rather, they handed heretical cases to the State and the State carried out executions.
The crusades were to protect Europe from Muslim invasion. You better thank Catholics we fought, or else you would be bowing to Mecca right now.
Anathemas are directed at heretical Catholics only. Non-Catholics are already separated from the Church.
SeptemberCatholic18 2 years ago
I apologize for the error; I did mean to say John. Most of Revelation has indeed occurred. He was symbolically talking about the Roman Empire (a.k.a. the Harlot) under Emperor Nero, who killed Peter and Paul and millions of other Christians.
No, the pope does not claim to be God. You are referring to the Church's doctrine of theosis. This does NOT mean you can become God. I suggest you read what theosis is and what we mean by it. Even the Eastern Orthodox believe in theosis.
SeptemberCatholic18 2 years ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
Rome, the great whore according to Revelation 17 and Revelation, is "drunken with the blood of the saints" and martyrs of Jesus. The Vatican is currently engulfed by yet another international scandal, Sergio, because of its protection of paedophile "clergymen." Repent of your jesuitical "Catholicism," which upholds the vile Roman Curia and its blasphemous pagan polytheism.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 3
@SeptemberCatholic18
Have you altogether lost your wits or just your ability to read? No one needs to "thank God" for the Mother of Harlots and Abominations who is "drunken with the blood of the saints" and martyrs of Jesus according to Revelation 17!!
I urge you to flee Rome's moral and doctrinal corruptions, Sergio, and repudiate the Vatican's vile blasphemies and idolatries immediately lest your conscience be seared with a hot iron.
boggymark1 1 year ago 4
@boggymark1 I contend that all of the Church's teachings are biblical. I also will go further and say that the Church cannot be the Great Harlot. Rather, the Harlot is thought by scholars to represent apostate Jerusalem or perhaps even ancient pagan Rome under the emperor Nero. I made two videos on the Harlot which I recommend you watch if you want to hear my defense.
I urge you also, to leave the wishy-washiness of Protestantism and fall under the protective shield that is God's true Church.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
Your so-called "shield" is an amoral occultist mockery of the church which the Lord Jesus Christ founded on Himself, the Rock of my Salvation.
The primary difference between voodoo and modern Jesuitical Catholicism is that Rome's "clergymen" went to seminaries sponsored by the Vatican. The other distinctions between those two vile, blasphemous, idolatrous religions are relatively minor.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 6
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@jjpetkusiii Pure drivel. You accomplished nothing in your previous comment except to fling insults around. I could do the same to you, but I would rather save my time.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
None of Rome's peculiar dogmas has any basis in the Scriptures that will stand up to even the slightest honest scrutiny as any literate man or woman who is saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone already knows.
Your indoctrination into the folly of jesuitical Neo-gnosticism is simply too obvious to hide, Sergio.
Wake up before it is too late.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 3
@jjpetkusiii Buddy, I am no brainwashed, Bible-illiterate Catholic. I went through my years of doubt and despair. I cried out, I prayed, and I searched the Scriptures as Paul commanded us to. What I found amazed me. I couldn't put the Bible down, and now I read it every day. I put EVERY single Catholic teaching to the test of Scripture and I didn't go easy, believe me. As a former debate captain, I would not allow myself to be wooed by any old argument. It had to be rock solid.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
Au contraire!
Salvation by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone is NOT A DEBATE, and it never has been one.
The Lord Jesus Christ (not His apostle, Paul) said, "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me" (John 5:39).
How long have you suffered from spurious memories?
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 3
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@jjpetkusiii I never said there was a debate there. We are saved by grace alone (Acts 15:11), through faith (Eph 2:8-9) which is accompanied by good works (Eph 2:10; James 2:17,24), works not of ourselves, but of God working in us.
I was referring to the many times Paul urged the Romans, Corinthians, Galatians, and his student Timothy to search the Scriptures. Vicariously, through them, he was telling us to do so.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
Just as your prior comments on this excellent video speculated about foolish and unlearned questions calculated to confuse clear Biblical truth, so you also continue to post Neo-gnostic poppycock.
Salvation by grace through faith in the Son of God is of the Lord, and it not of ANY human works "lest any man should boast."
You are functioning as a blind guide into a superstitious pagan ditch.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 3
@jjpetkusiii Okay, you can do without the insults. I never said you need human works. Ephesians 2:9-10 makes it very clear that good works are not of ourselves. They are from God, who works in us. True good works come from the Holy Spirit, not from man. Works of man are useless. Salvation comes completely by God, so that all man needs to do is accept. Once he accepts, faith and good works come from God as he allows them to.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
If you agree that salvation is by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone, why do you incessantly support fictitious Vatican dogmas which deny the sufficiency of the Saviour by substituting a system of religious rituals (e.g., the fiction of "sacraments" as a means of grace) and the idolatrous worship of a "queen of heaven" Mediatrix???
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 4
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@jjpetkusiii The Sacraments are not human works, they are gifts from God which we freely receive from God. We don't worship Mary. My my, you have so many misconceptions. I have a video for the misconception about the Sacraments as works. Just type "sacraments works" in YouTube and I'm the first video. I also have a channel called ArmoredCatholic.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
The words "apostolic succession," "sacrament," "magisterium," "charismatic movement" and "ecumenism" are absent from the Holy Scriptures, which clearly instructs regenerated believers in the Lord Jesus Christ that He is their Mediator and that no further sacrifice is necessary. Sprinkling an infant has no relationship to being saved by grace through faith in the Son of God alone, and the mass is a wicked fable that mocks the shed blood of the Saviour who died once for all.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 11
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@jjpetkusiii That's horrible logic. Neither are the following words and phrases found in Scripture: rapture, Holy Trinity, incarnation, faith alone, Scripture alone, Bible. Yet I assume you accept all of these doctrines and concepts. Just because the explicit word is absent from Scripture does not mean that the concept is also absent!
I would contend that all the phrases you mentioned are in Scripture, perhaps not the explicit words, but certainly the concepts are!
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
Your response is sheer obscurnatism, and you have the logical intellect of mental retardate or the literacy of six-year-old if you suppose otherwise.
While the categories like Sola Scriptura may be inferred logically on the basis of the Holy Scripture, none of the self-serving dogmas of Rome, the great whore, qualify as anything other than devilish frauds promoted with reckless indifference to their damnable deceit of lost men and women.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
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@jjpetkusiii Hmm. Six-year old? Mental retardate? I think this conversation has lost all seriousness, and you have been reduced to mere insults. Have a nice day.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
Like any popish ideologue, you fail to read the Holy Bible as anything other than a haphazard array of isolated lexemes which the jesuitical sophists who trained you in your useless "apologetics" employ to rationalize the Vatican's moral corruption and wresting of Scriptures simply to uphold the political prestige of the Roman Curia and its current Caesar-Pope Idol Shepherd (who formerly headed the successor office to the Inquisition).
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 4
@SeptemberCatholic18
Despite centuries of obfuscation by Vatican toadies, what the Holy Bible instructs about the Roman Curia and its blasphemous Pontifices Maximi is undeniably clear.
"And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration" (Revelation 17:6).
"And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth" (Revelation 17:18).
boggymark1 1 year ago 8
How to make a Plastercast for religious purposes.
First get some modelling plaster add water stir and mould it into a human figure
Subject it to intense heat and allow to harden
Now paint it with modelling paint & allow to dry
Move it to a grotto or church & mount it on a pedestal get it blessed by a priest
Garnish it with flowers & light candles to it
Now encourage people to come & pray to it & petition it
Now you have another mediator to help you
Surely this is not Idolatry ? OR IS IT ?
glizag 1 year ago 4
@glizag We don't pray to the statue. It merely serves as art, drawing our eyes to God in heaven.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth" (Exodus 20:4).
"Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen" (Deuteronomy 27:15).
boggymark1 1 year ago 5
@boggymark1 God was condemning idols. He did not forbid artwork used to draw our minds towards God (Exodus 25:18-22; 26:1,31; Numbers 21:8-9; 1 Kings 6:23-36; 7:27-39; 8:6-8; 1 Chronicles 28:18-19; 2 Chronicles 3:7-14; Ezekiel 41:15).
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
In all your dwellingplaces the cities shall be laid waste, and the high places shall be desolate; that your altars may be laid waste and made desolate, and your idols may be broken and cease, and your images may be cut down, and your works may be abolished" (Ezekiel 6:6).
"And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion" (Ezekiel 23:14)
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
@SeptemberCatholic18
Nowhere does the Holy Bible instruct anyone to employ "artwork used to draw our minds towards God," but that simply does not matter to Vatican toadies who adhere to the polytheistic cult of Caesar-Pope worship sponsored by the Roman Curia.
Did you hear about the Pope's latest miracle?
He made the lame man blind.
Sounds like you, doesn't it?
boggymark1 1 year ago 5
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@boggymark1 Here is where God commands statues and images to be made for HOLY purposes: Exodus 25:18-22; 26:1,31; Numbers 21:8-9; 1 Kings 6:23-36; 7:27-39; 8:6-8; 1 Chronicles 28:18-19; 2 Chronicles 3:7-14; Ezekiel 41:15
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
The references that you cited from Exodus to Ezekiel do not pertain to "artwork used to draw our minds towards God," but they are specific ordinances under the Mosaic Law which along with the Levitical priesthood have been abolished since the veil of the Temple in Zion was rent in two.
The popish "clergy" fraudulently apes a typology and system of sacrifice that the Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled in its own hybrid of self-reighteous paganism and fictitious legalism
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
@jjpetkusiii That's a bogus reply. God forbade idols in the same book in which he commanded holy images to be made (Exodus). Obviously, he forbade the kind of images that were being worshiped (like the golden calf), NOT images that are meant to be used for God's glory.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
No, your reply is ludicrous because there is no temple in Jerusalem, and the Lord Jesus Christ is properly worshipped in Spirit and truth. No jesuitical house of idols has ever houses the Holy Ghost, and the very essence of "Catholicism," i.e., universalism, contradicts the Son of God who said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh to the Father but by me."
Mecca and Rome are two peas in the same pod, but most Moslems are not as blatantly idolatrous.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
@jjpetkusiii I never said anything about a temple. God commanded many holy images to be made PERIOD. You can't wiggle out of that one. The bronze snake, the golden cherubim, the ark, and so on. You can't seem to accept the fact that God condemned worshiping IDOLS; he did not simply condemn all religious images, only the ones which were being worshiped.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
Stop cavilling: the LORD did not command "many holy images to be made," but Rome has its "clegymen" officiate in idolatrous latria where the great whore's adherents kiss statues. The ark in the tabernacle, by the way, was a wooden box and its dimensions were specificed, just as Noah's ark was made according to precise dimensions for a practical purpose. A single (not many) brazen serpent pictured the Redeemer on precisely one occasion.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
@jjpetkusiii You conviniently ignored the several times God commands gold cherubim to be made. As for the serpent, all it takes it once my friend. God clearly has no objection to using holy objects that REPRESENT holy people. You said it yourself. Latria is not given to statues. Learn it before you trash it.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
There is nothing "holy" about the idolatry which your incessantly advocate, and the worship of idols sanctifies no one. Rather, it is cursed by God, just like Rome, the great whore according to Revelation17 and Revelation 18.
There is no blessing anywhere on "objects" except in the darkened imaginations of heather idolators like the popish ideologues who are often obsessed with such abominations.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 4
@jjpetkusiii We do not worship, pray to, or honor statues and images. Rather, we direct all of our worship to God alone, and honor only those who deserve it (Rom 13:7). The statues and images only serve to remind us of the holy ones and keep them in mind. That is all. Any sign of reverence displayed near a statue or image is directed at the thing it represents, NOT at the statue or image itself.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
Really???
Somebody is going to be disappointed to learn that since many millions of popish Romanists have been told to keep "holy objects" and "revere them" by their jesuitical "clergymen."
Of course, the Holy Bible is not and was never intended to be a field manual room for Shining Path terrorists or a chat room for Opus Dei flagellants or prelates who protect paedophiles.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
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@jjpetkusiii Yes, they will be very disappointed. The Church very clearly forbids treating statues and images as idols in the Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraphs 2112-2114. They are to draw our focus to God and the holy ones period. They do not become the object of honor themselves.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
If you don't know that what that your latest post is utter nonsense, I doubt that you will ever learn any sound Biblical doctrine. The Vatican has no intention of ending its promotion of graven images precisely because it opposes the Lord Jesus Christ, as well as His bride, and "the holy ones," as characterized Rome's polytheism, are in fact the devils behind its idolatrous worship. There is one God, but there are many Roman statues of demons.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 4
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@jjpetkusiii
"If you don't know that what that your latest post is utter nonsense..."
That sentence was nonsense. You're clearly not interested in even listening to me, so there is no point in responding further. You hold tight to your corrupted and false views of the Church. I tried to inform you.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
My last post had a redundant typographical error which you attempt to exploit because you don't want Rome, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations, exposed as the biggest promoter of blasphemous idolatry in world history. Well, that is not your decision to make since the Scriptures have already revealed her as the great whore, and despite the Vatican's propaganda efforts the long-standing paedophile scandals involving the Roman Curia are not being ignored by the media.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
@SeptemberCatholic18
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." Ex. 20:4 KJV
I am quite sure this extends to LIKENESSES of MARY, whom I presume IS IN HEAVEN!
You are clearly in error.
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 4
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@ziggy2sound4u Here is where God commands statues and images to be made for HOLY purposes: Exodus 25:18-22; 26:1,31; Numbers 21:8-9; 1 Kings 6:23-36; 7:27-39; 8:6-8; 1 Chronicles 28:18-19; 2 Chronicles 3:7-14; Ezekiel 41:15
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
God Bless Jack Chick for promoting clean minds..
rustysruger 2 years ago
@husky394xp "Millions of Christians"? Name these Christians please. I don't mean individually, I mean what region, local or denomination (if they weren't Catholic)...This should be good :¬)
TheManGadoosh 1 year ago
@TheManGadoosh The body of Christ is the "church" which will be leaving soon. (1 Thess. 4:16-18, 1 Cor. 15:51-58, Rev. 4:1-2) There isn't any denomination which is exclusively "saved". Although I will say that a LARGE number of the people leaving will be Baptists. There will be people from other denominations leaving too. Maybe even a few Catholics who made the "mistake" of putting their FAITH in Jesus Christ ALONE for their salvation. (Eph. 2:8-9)
husky394xp 1 year ago 7
@TheManGadoosh
The word "Christian" is found exactly three times in the Holy Scriptures, and "Christianity" means the relationship that a man or woman who is saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone has with his or her Saviour as his disciple.
The Son of God said, "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again" (John 3:7).
Clearly, Catholic dogma is very significant to you, but when were you born again?
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
What do you think "Vicar" of Christ, means?
"Vicar" is English for the Latin "Varcarius" which literally means "substitute".
In the Greek, that would be antichrist.
In Old English, "anti" means: in place of or substitute.
You better open your eyes, while the Holy Spirit is yet tugging on your heart, friend!
ziggy2sound4u 2 years ago
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@ziggy2sound4u False. Vicar more accurately means representative. For instance, when we say that we speak "vicariously" through someone, we mean that we are speaking through them, as if they represent us. The vicar of Christ is merely the instrument which Christ uses to speak through if the need arises. For instance, Jesus declared through the pope that abortion is an intrinsic evil, echoing what Scripture and Apostolic Tradition has always taught us. You can disagree, but at least get it right.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
The Son of God never decreed anything through a blasphemer like Pontifex Maximus Benedictus XVI (a.k.a. Josef Ratzinger, a former member of the Hitler Jugend) who claims infallibility which is an attribute of the LORD alone.
The rhetorical posturings of a Caesar-Pope Idol Shepherd constitute nothing but Rome's laughable pretensions to pre-eminence above the Lord Jesus Christ and the truth of the Holy Scriptures.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
@SeptemberCatholic18
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The LATIN translate EXACTLY as SUBSTITUTE, and in fact, SOME Popes have made it plain as to EXACTLY what it means, when they have called themselves Lord God Almighty ON earth........................................
Quit defending the undefendable.
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 4
@ziggy2sound4u I'm not denying that it can be translated as "substitute." I'm saying that's not how we use it. Vicarius can also be translated to mean "deputy" or "steward," which is the way we use it. The pope is the steward of Christ, similar to the stewardship described in Isaiah 22:22.
If any pope has said he is Lord God, he was wrong. Period. That is not the teaching of the Catholic Church, and nothing you say can change that. The Church professes "One God" in the Creed, and One God alone.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
Thats how YOU attempt to translate it. "Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, .... thou art finally another God on earth." Christopher Marcellus in Oration addressing Pope Julius II, in Fifth Lateran Council, Session IV (1512), Council Edition. Colm. Agrip. 1618, (Sacrorum Conciliorum, J.D. Mansi (ed.), Vol. 32, col. 761), (also quoted in History of the Councils, vol. XIV, col 109, by Labbe and Cossart).
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 4
Popes God on earth cont... "To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical." The Gloss of Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, Cum. Inter, title 14, chapter 4, "Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium", Column 140, Paris, 1685. (In an Antwerp edition of the Extravagantes, the words, "Dominum Deum Nostrum Papam" (Our Lord God the Pope)can be found in column 153).
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 3
Popes God on earth cont... "Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God...what do you make of me but God?" Decretales Domini Gregori ix Translatione Episcoporum, (on the Transference of Bishops), title 7, chapter 3; Corpus Juris Canonice (2nd Leipzig ed., 1881), col. 99; (Paris, 1612), tom. 2, Decretales, col. 205 (while Innocent III was Pope)
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 3
Popes God on earth cont... "The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth...by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians.... the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth." Quoted in the New York Catechism.
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 4
Popes God on earth cont.... "...the Pope is as it were God on earth..." Lucius Ferraris, in "Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica", Volume V, article on "Papa, Article II", titled "Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility", #1, 5, 13-15, 18, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition.
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 4
Popes God on earth cont... ...We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty..." Pope Leo XIII, in Praeclara Gratulationis Publicae (The Reunion of Christendom), Encyclical promulgated on June 20, 1894.
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 5
Popes God on earth cont.....
So, we see that Popes not only have called themselves,"God on earth", but other high "Church" authorities have referred to them as "God on earth" and it was an accepted title for them, SeptemberCatholic18.
You only think you know your works religion.
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 4
@SeptemberCatholic18
"If any pope has said he is Lord God, he was wrong. Period. That is not the teaching of the Catholic Church."
REALLY?
Thats why the New York Catechism. TEACHES that the Pope is "God on earth"?
I am sure husky394xp could SHOW from other catechisms from other states, where your "church" teaches just that.
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 4
@ziggy2sound4u There is no such thing as a "New York Catechism." That is a spurious source that anti-Catholics invented. It doesn't actually exist, and no one has ever heard of it except anti-Catholics. Even if a Catechism said such a thing, it would be wrong. The Catholic Church does not teach that the pope is God PERIOD.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
ALL the various different Catechisms teach it.
Tell me, can the Pope take away sin?
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 4
@ziggy2sound4u No, all the Catechisms do not teach it, you liar. All ordained men can exercise the authority Christ gave them in John 20:23.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18
Answer my question!!!
Can the Pope forgive sin?
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 4
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@ziggy2sound4u I answered your question. All ordained men can exercise the authority Christ gave them in John 20:23.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@ziggy2sound4u
Press censorship is a fact of life almost everywhere the Vatican holds sway, but the Lord has nonetheless preserved the Holy Scriptures. "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (2Thes. 2:3ff)
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
@jjpetkusiii
Amen, brother!
In fact, it was alleged by Samuel Morris as early as 1835, that the Jesuits controlled most media outlets.
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 5
@ziggy2sound4u
The equivalency of ancient texts which are not part of the Holy Bible with the Scriptures themselves is also a constant theme in Papist dogma, spewed from the Vatican and its predecessors (e.g., the Lateran Palace), which shifts with the ease of quicksand with the papacy's economic or political agenda.
Pagan Rome morphed into the Papal Curia from Constantine's reign onward, and the current Caesar-Pope Idol Shepherd, Benedict XVI, is the successor of Nero and Caligula, not Peter.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
@jjpetkusiii
Amen, brother!
In fact even Jerome did not want to add to Scripture with the Apocrypha stating: "..not on the ark".
Interesting how Catholics ignore this.
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 5
@ziggy2sound4u
The Lord Jesus Christ is not honored and glorified when men and women depart from the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV), which testifies of Him and preserves the Old and New Testaments without error, omission or addition.
The wicked "zeitgeistlich" Satanic spirit of relativistic secular humanism and universalism, i.e., "catholicism," saturates the contempo apostate mistranslations of Scriptures into inferior, misleading and incorrect English.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
@jjpetkusiii
Amen, brother!
In fact, ALL these "New Versions" are nothing but plagiarism of the original corruption of Origin's 5th column of the Hexapla, thus are not "New" at all.
It is a well known fact, that Origin was NOT a fundamentalist.................
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 5
@ziggy2sound4u
Amen and amen, Brother!
That a political cabal like the Roman Curia would ever attempt by flimsy jesuitical sophistry even to masquerade as the "church" which the Lord Jesus Christ founded on Himself, the Rock of my Salvation, often defies description. Anyone who knows history and can also read English may promptly understand Rome, the great whore according to Revelation 17 and Revelation 18, for what she truly is.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 5
@jjpetkusiii
What I fail to understand, is that this SAME information is available in ENGLISH, for ANYONE to read, yet Catholic cultists deny these fundamental truths!
They require much prayer to escape the these devils.
It is NOT like I am "Einstein", yet even I see how a small cult started in Rome by the magician Simon Magus mentioned in Acts, BECAME the R.C.C.!
Interestingly, Polycarp does NOT even mention Peter by name, elevating Paul, as the one whose teachings one should follow!
ziggy2sound4u 1 year ago 4
@ziggy2sound4u Sadly, for some who think that a pathetic Alexandrian heretic who castrated himself is the author of the Holy Scriptures, Brother, indeed their "other Jesus" is not the "Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world." They are those lost men who know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.
For the English-speaking peoples, the AV1611 (KJV) is the Holy Bible, which unfailingly testifies of the Lord Jesus Christ in our native language legible today.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 4
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@SeptemberCatholic18
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (2Thessalonians 2:3ff).
boggymark1 1 year ago 4
Great vid and Great message, most importantly all true!!!. Amen.
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ProphetNPrairie 2 years ago
Keep preaching the word man.
ConvoWithGod 2 years ago
Thanks Husky!
The video is excellent. You are absolutely correct, I know I want to live right believing in a pre-trib rapture each day. In contrast, I feel like collecting soup cans & water with a post-trib view. I believe we all need to be prepared with survival items whether we believe post-trib or pre-trib! Of course the Bible is the authority over feelings.
Thanks for the info concerning the Catholic church as well. I have some studying to do.
John6verse27 2 years ago
The way the economy is going, I am certainly for having some food, water, survival goodies,etc. I just am not planning to "survive" the coming 7 year great tribulation.
Things might get pretty rough BEFORE the rapture.
Thank you for your words of encouragment, "John6verse27"!
husky394xp 2 years ago