catholic "apologists" are so shallow. First off the Ante Nicene Fathers were NOT catholic. Catholic's idea of apologetics is nothing more than shouting down your opponent. They are not interested in the truth. Just peddling more nonsense.
@123WalshJack St Ignatius , Bishop of Antioch and a "Ante Nicene father" in 107 AD wrote Letter to the Smyrnaeans 8 in which he wrote" Wherever the bishop appears, there let the people be; as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." this is the earliest written use to date of the Catholic Church and it predates Nicea by 2 centuries and is at the end of the Apostolic age. In fact the Catholic Church has existed since 33 AD!
@EqualAndFree Your comments are stupid and innane. The Bible is true because it's historical and will stand up to the public scrutiny that is applied to any classical piece of literature. No other gods claimed to rise from the dead.
christs church is catholic. Catholic meaning universal. God's church went out to the world baptising people in the name of the divine trinity. therefore, the church is Catholic.
words fail me at times as to the arrogance of some catholics ..' it is our book ' . it was not written by catholics !! there has never been any passage of scripture mentioning the word catholic . where does Christ say that his church is the catholic church ?? Christ was a jew not a catholic . He went to his fathers house = the temple not the vatican !! i could go on but hey i know i will be dismissed simply because i dont agree with this kind of doctrine . mama mia
@paulinesmith44 review the history of the bible ...for goodness sakes where were the catholic scholars during old Testament times ?? You can only make this claim for the New |Testament ...It was JEWS who WROTE the bible not the catholics , who translated it to their own beliefs ...Christ's Church is CHRISTIAN and NONE other
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Papacy = Antichrist / Little Horn / Beast from the Sea
Roman Catholicism = Whore of Babylon
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Ellen G. White, 1827-1915 = End-time Prophet Sent of God
7th-day Sabbath = Seal of God
Sunday Worship to be Enforced as Mark of the Beast"
To Theflanke35, u criticize Catholics but Protestant politicians r not free of sin look at bill Clinton,Barack Obama, George Bush, they r all Protestants. Can u support your statement of Catholics banning the Bible with real historic fact? No cuz there is none.
To Hawklanzs; You accused the Catholic Church of being the Whore of Babylon,simply because the pope kissed the Koran. The pope can commit sin just like u sin, sin is universal, but does not make Catholic the whore. Whoever is free of sin let him cast the first sin. Catholic teach the pope is infallible when teaching excatedra, this does not mean he cannot sin. Ignorance emerges out of u.
I think it's notable that Atheists keep coming back to listen to apologetics... you'd think if they were really SURE of their beliefs that they would have better things to do.
BUT: The truth is WAY DEEP DOWN they want to believe in God, and to know Him, because that's what they were created for - though they vehemently deny it.
@TheFlanker35 About "catholic" politicians, I couldn't even hazard a guess at just how many politicians use "being catholic" as a campaign tool to boost their public appeal. Practically none of the ones that do this have anything to do with the faith, ever practice the faith, or indeed have any faith whatsoever. It is up to our bishops to deal with fakers like these by refusing them holy communion, or, in particularly bad cases, by excommunicating them from the church.
@AtomicMonster454 Muslim? who knows? Do u think Jesus would kiss that pagan book? You guys change the Bible's teaching as and when it suits your needs. U don't kiss that pagan book. U kiss the Imam if u wish but NOT that Book who teaches you should kill all unbelievers.
One phrase to describe Catholism. WHORE of Babylon.
@AtomicMonster454 Thats right my brother. U hug, U love the Muslims, the Buddhists. You show them the LOVE of Christ. Not by kissing the Quran or the Buddhist Idols.
God bless you brother. Thanks for your time. I hope we can share and learn from each other more.
@AtomicMonster454 ah the elect of Christ. Theres so much argument in-print and discussions as to who the 'elect' of Christ is. I have not argument with you. I just know that the person that represents Your religion speaks much about the morals behind it. Same for Muhammud and the same for your 'priests'. They have defiled the nature of your practices. I will speak no further on this because I know who and what lurks behind it all.
I don't understand something... at around 2:20 you list 3 types of apologetics. The first one is natural, defined as truths we can determine without supernatural intervention, through the light of reason. The first of these that you list is the existence of god. Now, I'm not trying to start an argument here; I am trying to learn the catholic apologist's answer to someone who says, "ok, if you're only using reason, what evidence is there for the existence of God?"
Interesting.....and yet pious. AS if ONLY through Catholicism one could hold true the beliefs of the bible. Yes, we are to confess our sins, most importantly to those we have sinned against, not priests. No man cometh to the father but through the son.
1 john 1:9 If you confess your sins He is faithful and Just to forgive us our sins and ccleans us from all unrightousness that is just one verse about confessing your sins to God, you can confess your sins to one another and Jesus said you will be healed in james but there is more scriptures then just in james the bible is God speaking to us weather you are catholic or lutheran or any other onelook at the next few verses after iJohn 1 9
Remember Christians, the will of God is no Catholic, Protestant,Orthodox, Penticostal, Adventist, JW, Etc. NO DIVISION, Only Christians, holy, helping and sharing instead of buying and selling.
"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." (John 17:9-21)
In my research I found independent accounts from people saying how Joseph Smith had performed many healing miracles similar to that in the new testament through laying on of hands. He cured deafness, severe illness like cholorea on several people, and the accounts are all genuine, I ask you do supernatural healing miracles sound like the work of a conman and a liar to you?
In catholicism there is an actual art of defense because it can be down. In protestantism it's called attacking, closemindedness unill the open up and realize that their taling their heads off an running in circles....Catholicism can be defended on EVERY point, protestantism cnnot be.
Very interesting twist on words in order to reach a ridiculous theological position. This argument will surely impress those who have very limited Scriptural knowledge as the average Catholic does. Am i to assume that a good Catholic after listening to this presentation will open up their Bible and research these verses, their meaning and context? I am very doubtful. "The Bible is a Catholic book". This requires a serious mental strain to pronounce and its shameful.
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That which resembles a monarchical hierarchy which boasts in their own pomp and glamor, who set themselves above judgment but who love to damn left and right? Are you talking about the church represented by those who wear crowns of gold and regalia costing tens of thousands of dollars who impoverished nations for their own greed and selfish ambitions? Is this the "Church that Christ founded"? Please tell me that this is not what you mean :)
Sorry to disappoint you, but your anti-Catholic rhetoric is old and, quite frankly, displays your need to hate something, so joining the community of Catholic haters, in a world where it isn't just politically correct but an obligation to attack the Church, shows to me that you wilfully accept the hate propaganda as you are comfortable with it and lazy.
I've heard so many "facts" that, at least in the 21st Century, are so easily either totally disproved, or shown to be an incomplete and selective version of the facts, to dismiss people such as yourselves as inherently in need of a bigotry to feel good and superior about yourself.
So pointing to a lavish lifestyle, historically and presently is 'hate propaganda'? I'm only drawing your attention to the utter discrepancy between the church Christ left and the monarchy it has become. Not only that, but the course of actions the Roman Church has taken in the last 1000 years in assuming a Petrine succession without a shred of Biblical support, buying and selling the Papacy between wealthy families. The ball is in your court....Can you show me this monarchy in the Bible?
What you 'point to' is post-"reformation/protest" / post-"enlightenment" propaganda to destroy the Church (the former to replace it).
What truth there might be within that propaganda does not prove the whole to be true. Those who spread this are either fools who hate themselves and grab this propaganda as an avenue for their hate, or are deliberately and wilfully doing so. Either way they do not represent the truth nor the complexity, of the 2000 year history of the Church and Christianity.
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I can see you're all fired up about this. I am wondering if all your apologetic measures are all so full of emotionalism. I have not questioned your intellectual integrity nor your mental ability, as you have in every post. Your problem seems to be an inability to stick to facts. You hold on to a dead system, dead formalism that does not generate saving faith. Any system that adds meritorious works for salvation is wrong. Just cause you like the formalism/mysticism doesn't make the system true.
You assume too much sir. And, as a proponent of pseudo-history, history by ideological narrative, you are the last to consider yourself an "authority" to question anyone's intellectual integrity or mental ability.
Do some research, find out the facts away from your usual sources. I know you will find that your position is not as strong as you believe.
It is indeed a very complex 2000 year history - one the covered the conception, birth pains, birth and growth of the Western civilisation.
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Ok, I have numerous books and i am doing serious research on 16th and 17th century religious issues so i want to make sure you understand that i am not sourcing the internet or second hand knowledge when and if i make reference to a historical event. History cannot be rewritten. The theological errors are well documented. The historical wrongs done in the name of the Roman Church are numerous and gruesome. Those aren't illusions. Those are facts.
It's amazing to see how the argument from Rome is that they have been misscharacterized. Instead of owning up to the errors and grotesque mistreatment of nations, they want to rewrite history. I understand a Catholic's attachment to the system. Without it, no hope. I get the whole dogma instilled in you to chain you to the system. But to look in the face of history and be blinded by Rome's fairy tale arguments is somewhat laughable.
Thank you for sharing with us how to handle Catholic apologetics. Surely we will keep this lesson in mind while we share the TRUE Gospel of Christ with these "apologists."
catholic "apologists" are so shallow. First off the Ante Nicene Fathers were NOT catholic. Catholic's idea of apologetics is nothing more than shouting down your opponent. They are not interested in the truth. Just peddling more nonsense.
123WalshJack 1 month ago
@123WalshJack St Ignatius , Bishop of Antioch and a "Ante Nicene father" in 107 AD wrote Letter to the Smyrnaeans 8 in which he wrote" Wherever the bishop appears, there let the people be; as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." this is the earliest written use to date of the Catholic Church and it predates Nicea by 2 centuries and is at the end of the Apostolic age. In fact the Catholic Church has existed since 33 AD!
monkigun 2 weeks ago
@EqualAndFree Your comments are stupid and innane. The Bible is true because it's historical and will stand up to the public scrutiny that is applied to any classical piece of literature. No other gods claimed to rise from the dead.
123WalshJack 1 month ago
Background Music is unnecessary and very annoying!
Cherubaby 3 months ago
christs church is catholic. Catholic meaning universal. God's church went out to the world baptising people in the name of the divine trinity. therefore, the church is Catholic.
johnpaulsialafau 5 months ago
words fail me at times as to the arrogance of some catholics ..' it is our book ' . it was not written by catholics !! there has never been any passage of scripture mentioning the word catholic . where does Christ say that his church is the catholic church ?? Christ was a jew not a catholic . He went to his fathers house = the temple not the vatican !! i could go on but hey i know i will be dismissed simply because i dont agree with this kind of doctrine . mama mia
paulinesmith44 8 months ago
review the history of the bible so you will know where did the bible originated...
naviktuz 6 months ago
@paulinesmith44 review the history of the bible ...for goodness sakes where were the catholic scholars during old Testament times ?? You can only make this claim for the New |Testament ...It was JEWS who WROTE the bible not the catholics , who translated it to their own beliefs ...Christ's Church is CHRISTIAN and NONE other
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Papacy = Antichrist / Little Horn / Beast from the Sea
Roman Catholicism = Whore of Babylon
Investigative Judgement has commenced in 1844 (1st Angel’s Message)
Ellen G. White, 1827-1915 = End-time Prophet Sent of God
7th-day Sabbath = Seal of God
Sunday Worship to be Enforced as Mark of the Beast"
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youneekk 8 months ago
Something devine shouldn't need an apologist
A1Cvenom 11 months ago
I love my faith but The way I expressed was horrible.
cathomania 1 year ago
To Theflanke35, u criticize Catholics but Protestant politicians r not free of sin look at bill Clinton,Barack Obama, George Bush, they r all Protestants. Can u support your statement of Catholics banning the Bible with real historic fact? No cuz there is none.
cathomania 1 year ago
To Hawklanzs; You accused the Catholic Church of being the Whore of Babylon,simply because the pope kissed the Koran. The pope can commit sin just like u sin, sin is universal, but does not make Catholic the whore. Whoever is free of sin let him cast the first sin. Catholic teach the pope is infallible when teaching excatedra, this does not mean he cannot sin. Ignorance emerges out of u.
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I think it's notable that Atheists keep coming back to listen to apologetics... you'd think if they were really SURE of their beliefs that they would have better things to do.
BUT: The truth is WAY DEEP DOWN they want to believe in God, and to know Him, because that's what they were created for - though they vehemently deny it.
lastdaysguitar 1 year ago
nice
xnixor 1 year ago
If faith and works were to save people, why would the death of Christ matter at all?
Why do Catholic leaders all turn out like either Francisco Franco or Ted Kennedy?
Why did Catholics hate individual rights and call it the "heresy of Americanism"?
Why did Catholics outlaw ownership of the Bible?
TheFlanker35 1 year ago
@TheFlanker35 About "catholic" politicians, I couldn't even hazard a guess at just how many politicians use "being catholic" as a campaign tool to boost their public appeal. Practically none of the ones that do this have anything to do with the faith, ever practice the faith, or indeed have any faith whatsoever. It is up to our bishops to deal with fakers like these by refusing them holy communion, or, in particularly bad cases, by excommunicating them from the church.
ssjSephirothhiei 8 months ago
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ethanoburu 1 year ago
Defend,Live,Love and Learn the CATHOLIC FAITH. God Bless.
cramirez11 1 year ago
To Catolicos child rape=petty gossip.
End the myths..
willietango 1 year ago
LOL, Pope kissed the Quran.
Whore.
End of Story.
hawklanzs 1 year ago
@hawklanzs --Does that mean he was a secret muslim? I believe this was "the kiss of peace" given to all muslims through that gesture.
AtomicMonster454 1 year ago
@AtomicMonster454 Muslim? who knows? Do u think Jesus would kiss that pagan book? You guys change the Bible's teaching as and when it suits your needs. U don't kiss that pagan book. U kiss the Imam if u wish but NOT that Book who teaches you should kill all unbelievers.
One phrase to describe Catholism. WHORE of Babylon.
hawklanzs 1 year ago
@hawklanzs --thank you for your kind words mr christian; I wish the whole world was more like you.
AtomicMonster454 1 year ago
@AtomicMonster454 Thats right my brother. U hug, U love the Muslims, the Buddhists. You show them the LOVE of Christ. Not by kissing the Quran or the Buddhist Idols.
God bless you brother. Thanks for your time. I hope we can share and learn from each other more.
hawklanzs 1 year ago
@hawklanzs --No, I was being sarcastic, mr christian; you should repent from speaking evil against the elect of Christ, such as the Holy Father.
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Turn or burn.
AtomicMonster454 1 year ago
@AtomicMonster454 ah the elect of Christ. Theres so much argument in-print and discussions as to who the 'elect' of Christ is. I have not argument with you. I just know that the person that represents Your religion speaks much about the morals behind it. Same for Muhammud and the same for your 'priests'. They have defiled the nature of your practices. I will speak no further on this because I know who and what lurks behind it all.
hawklanzs 1 year ago
@hawklanzs good. no-one respects your opinion anyway.
AtomicMonster454 1 year ago
I don't understand something... at around 2:20 you list 3 types of apologetics. The first one is natural, defined as truths we can determine without supernatural intervention, through the light of reason. The first of these that you list is the existence of god. Now, I'm not trying to start an argument here; I am trying to learn the catholic apologist's answer to someone who says, "ok, if you're only using reason, what evidence is there for the existence of God?"
Thank you.
bushonomics 1 year ago
Interesting.....and yet pious. AS if ONLY through Catholicism one could hold true the beliefs of the bible. Yes, we are to confess our sins, most importantly to those we have sinned against, not priests. No man cometh to the father but through the son.
nacradancer 1 year ago
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Just so you know, Jesus Christ had two missions.
1. He formed a church with a foundation of apostles and prophets. The apostles were ordained with authority to act in the name of God.
(but due to the wicked people around them, they were martyred.)
2. Jesus Christ, the divine almighty God, came to save mankind IF they will accept him, and are baptized by one holding the correct authority.
*You can be baptized 100 times and if not done by one ordained it won't count.*
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
@LDSapologist71 "*You can be baptized 100 times and if not done by one ordained it won't count.*" Show me this in the Bible, please
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
excellent
sgzartan 2 years ago
both luther and calvin were strong supporters of confession
bitterherbs94 2 years ago
oh my GOD ,,GOD BLESS YOUR its about time someone lay down law !!!
OGPUMAS 2 years ago
AMEN!
TheAsinatilaw 2 years ago 2
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groznyj37 2 years ago
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edman715 2 years ago
1 john 1:9 If you confess your sins He is faithful and Just to forgive us our sins and ccleans us from all unrightousness that is just one verse about confessing your sins to God, you can confess your sins to one another and Jesus said you will be healed in james but there is more scriptures then just in james the bible is God speaking to us weather you are catholic or lutheran or any other onelook at the next few verses after iJohn 1 9
blessedwithoutmeasur 2 years ago
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Remember Christians, the will of God is no Catholic, Protestant,Orthodox, Penticostal, Adventist, JW, Etc. NO DIVISION, Only Christians, holy, helping and sharing instead of buying and selling.
"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." (John 17:9-21)
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conceil8 2 years ago
@conceil8
Just so you know, Jesus Christ had two missions.
1. He formed a church with a foundation of apostles and prophets. The apostles were ordained with authority to act in the name of God.
(but due to the wicked people around them, they were martyred.)
2. Jesus Christ, the divine almighty God, came to save mankind IF they will accept him, and are baptized by one holding the correct authority.
*You can be baptized 100 times and if not done by one ordained it won't count.*
LDSapologist71 2 years ago
Not true. Baptism and Matrimony are valid outside the church.
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LDSapologist71 2 years ago
LDSapologist Go away. Joseph Smith was a con man and Mormonism in no way passes the smell test. Not even close. Wake up.
kingsmen711 2 years ago
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In my research I found independent accounts from people saying how Joseph Smith had performed many healing miracles similar to that in the new testament through laying on of hands. He cured deafness, severe illness like cholorea on several people, and the accounts are all genuine, I ask you do supernatural healing miracles sound like the work of a conman and a liar to you?
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LDSapologist71 2 years ago
Matrimony yes, but only in the eyes of the state. But Baptism???
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alaya10008 2 years ago 2
In catholicism there is an actual art of defense because it can be down. In protestantism it's called attacking, closemindedness unill the open up and realize that their taling their heads off an running in circles....Catholicism can be defended on EVERY point, protestantism cnnot be.
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catholicfilms 2 years ago
Very interesting twist on words in order to reach a ridiculous theological position. This argument will surely impress those who have very limited Scriptural knowledge as the average Catholic does. Am i to assume that a good Catholic after listening to this presentation will open up their Bible and research these verses, their meaning and context? I am very doubtful. "The Bible is a Catholic book". This requires a serious mental strain to pronounce and its shameful.
ciorapimurati 2 years ago
Whereas your position requires a wilful submission of intellect and reason and a wilful desire to destroy the Church that Christ founded.
Blessings, despite yourself.
Prophettessa 2 years ago 4
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That which resembles a monarchical hierarchy which boasts in their own pomp and glamor, who set themselves above judgment but who love to damn left and right? Are you talking about the church represented by those who wear crowns of gold and regalia costing tens of thousands of dollars who impoverished nations for their own greed and selfish ambitions? Is this the "Church that Christ founded"? Please tell me that this is not what you mean :)
ciorapimurati 2 years ago
Sorry to disappoint you, but your anti-Catholic rhetoric is old and, quite frankly, displays your need to hate something, so joining the community of Catholic haters, in a world where it isn't just politically correct but an obligation to attack the Church, shows to me that you wilfully accept the hate propaganda as you are comfortable with it and lazy.
Prophettessa 2 years ago 18
I've heard so many "facts" that, at least in the 21st Century, are so easily either totally disproved, or shown to be an incomplete and selective version of the facts, to dismiss people such as yourselves as inherently in need of a bigotry to feel good and superior about yourself.
Blessings, despite yourself.
Prophettessa 2 years ago 4
So pointing to a lavish lifestyle, historically and presently is 'hate propaganda'? I'm only drawing your attention to the utter discrepancy between the church Christ left and the monarchy it has become. Not only that, but the course of actions the Roman Church has taken in the last 1000 years in assuming a Petrine succession without a shred of Biblical support, buying and selling the Papacy between wealthy families. The ball is in your court....Can you show me this monarchy in the Bible?
ciorapimurati 2 years ago
What you 'point to' is post-"reformation/protest" / post-"enlightenment" propaganda to destroy the Church (the former to replace it).
What truth there might be within that propaganda does not prove the whole to be true. Those who spread this are either fools who hate themselves and grab this propaganda as an avenue for their hate, or are deliberately and wilfully doing so. Either way they do not represent the truth nor the complexity, of the 2000 year history of the Church and Christianity.
Prophettessa 2 years ago 4
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I can see you're all fired up about this. I am wondering if all your apologetic measures are all so full of emotionalism. I have not questioned your intellectual integrity nor your mental ability, as you have in every post. Your problem seems to be an inability to stick to facts. You hold on to a dead system, dead formalism that does not generate saving faith. Any system that adds meritorious works for salvation is wrong. Just cause you like the formalism/mysticism doesn't make the system true.
ciorapimurati 2 years ago
You assume too much sir. And, as a proponent of pseudo-history, history by ideological narrative, you are the last to consider yourself an "authority" to question anyone's intellectual integrity or mental ability.
Do some research, find out the facts away from your usual sources. I know you will find that your position is not as strong as you believe.
It is indeed a very complex 2000 year history - one the covered the conception, birth pains, birth and growth of the Western civilisation.
Prophettessa 2 years ago 8
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Ok, I have numerous books and i am doing serious research on 16th and 17th century religious issues so i want to make sure you understand that i am not sourcing the internet or second hand knowledge when and if i make reference to a historical event. History cannot be rewritten. The theological errors are well documented. The historical wrongs done in the name of the Roman Church are numerous and gruesome. Those aren't illusions. Those are facts.
ciorapimurati 2 years ago
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It's amazing to see how the argument from Rome is that they have been misscharacterized. Instead of owning up to the errors and grotesque mistreatment of nations, they want to rewrite history. I understand a Catholic's attachment to the system. Without it, no hope. I get the whole dogma instilled in you to chain you to the system. But to look in the face of history and be blinded by Rome's fairy tale arguments is somewhat laughable.
ciorapimurati 2 years ago
@Prophettessa Bless you for defending our faith. Pro Deo Omina. It would have been easier to tell this person to fuck off.
zaphodtrillian 1 year ago
Thank you so much for your video it is helping me understand, explain and defend my Catholic faith. May The Lord Bless You!!!
sarahmcc28 2 years ago 4
awesome videos of yours, they are helping me so much!!!!
sarahmcc28 2 years ago
yeah!!!!
theycallmebreandan 2 years ago
/watch?v=fFH0khjgA0U
TheHonestTheist 2 years ago
thanks for sharing..
I really need this to show to my protestant friends.
akoanani 3 years ago 4
Great work bro
TheManGadoosh 3 years ago 3
Thank you for sharing with us how to handle Catholic apologetics. Surely we will keep this lesson in mind while we share the TRUE Gospel of Christ with these "apologists."
GospelTruth777 3 years ago 3
tnx for the comment
...i will post more about apogogetics..
GOD bless...
ahneong 3 years ago 3