He bobbled the catch and didnt get control until after he had been pushed back behind the 1st down line. The receiver has to have control before it's considered a catch. He didn't have control on the 1st down side of the line.
@Theryougo1 Easily? I can understand saying he made it, but it wasn't "easily". The ball touched his hand a yard and a half infront of it, but he was bobbling it the whole time until he went to the ground which looked to be a few inches behind the 1st down marker.
a lot of you idiots think its a first down. He had fully CAUGHT the ball at around the 30 yard line, however he only had one foot down. Once he got the 2nd foot down, the ball was just shy of the 30. Even if it was a first down the Pats couldnt have reviewed it because you guys burned your timeouts before this play. Can't blame anyone but yourselves and your dumbass coach to go for it on 4th and 2.
i was at that game with both my father and close friend who are both pats fans. i can tell you right now that was not a first down. i'm not exactly sure what it is you're showing here but it's a fake
clearly got the first down pats have been getting horrible calls against them since 06 afc championship game and especially the last drive against giants maybe tom isnt white enough to be liked my inbreds
@UsonianAC It wasn't a bad call you idiot. Faulk didn't have full possesion of the ball. He bobbled it at first. By the time he had full possesion, he was behind the marker. Not a first down
@earthpart3 Rookies you had 1 starting rookie on offense so thats not that big of a deal. For Defense you had 3 rookies. Just because someone is a rookie doesnt mean they suck so stop using that bullshit ass line.
@earthpart3 That pick six came from a horribly ran route and Wayne even takes fault for it. Faggot really are you still in high school? Brady has had his share of choke jobs as well.
he clearly has possession beyond the first down. just like how the giants got away with a chokehold on seymour on the tyree fluke, pats always get screwed anymore
Nope that's not the way it happened, he was running back, his momentum is going backwards too. This time we were not robbed. He just should have got another yard before he curled. That's why I like a slant better then a curl in or out in this situation. I've seen this happen many times in games. I'm a homer too, I'm just realistic and objective.
@earthpart3 lets talk about how they recorded ppl at pratice so they would know thee plays so they could won the superbowl and it wasnt Tom Brady who did the work it was there defense dick sucker and your QB wheres make-up fag
@deejayskusee13 yeah, i guess he just let them to 14-2 with a bunch of rookies and one of the best statistical years for a QB ever, because of the defense. I guess the defense threw touchdown passes and got them in field goal range. I guess their defense threw 50TDs and 8INTs. Faggot.
Look at the runner at 0:15 you can clearly see he has pocession right? Well he had no ball control at all untill this point. He was bobbling it due to I think it was Gary Brackett hittihng him behind the line. The call is controversial for NO REASON! Its really simple.
@SantmyreFilms he had posession before that. he had possesion over the line. the ball was never bobbled. it never moves after he gets control and then gets pushed back.
Worst call ever. Yeah I'm a Patriots fan but this call is just...one of the worst ever. Kevin Faulk got that first down. Even worse is that the VERY NEXT PLAY is the one that no one remembers as much...A freaking PASS INTERFERENCE.
@lukerbom12 I'm just as Big a Pats fan as anyone, but his own momentum, brought him back and when he hit the ground with his elbow the ball was behind the line again.
Kind of like when a receiver gains a first down but does a little curl around a defender and steps behind the line. We seen it happen many times over the years when the receiver gets downed behind the line and doesn't get the first down... SAME CONCEPT, and this video clearly illustrates it
@lukerbom12 The reason that didnt matter is because noone looks at his hands. He didnt have any ball control till he was behind the first down marker. No first down. Its obvious!
@lukerbom12 Pass Interference wasn't called the play after this one. You're thinking of a call that happened before this drive, which replays from other angles confirmed that it was indeed pass interference. The bottom line is the Patriots have no one to blame but themselves by taking a risky gamble with no timeouts left to challenge the play. The Colts beat the Patriots, and the calls had nothing to do with them winning. It was the stupidity of the Patriots that cost them the game.
@Eclipton Then maybe my memory is a bit fuzzy. But it wasn't a bad gamble. The Patriots defense was SUCKING. It was the right call. It was the only thing they could do to end the game. The defense just couldn't stop Manning. Even an interception, up 10 with 5 minutes left and on the Colts side of the field, wasn't enough. (The Patriots almost did the same thing last year; their offense and defense stopped working in the 4th quarter. Thank God for James Sander.)
@naruto81791 wow. thanks that always confused me. usually on 4th down (on some networks) the 1st down line is red. and I never even saw the yellow line next to the 30 yard line)
Video angle is really bad, makes him seem farther than he really is. Forward progress only counts once the reciever has pocession, which really isn't until he's on the ground. Why? Because when a reciever jumps up and catches a ball, comes down on 2 feet, but then loses the ball, its an incompletion not a fumble, same goes for this. when his feet touch the ground he doesn't have pocession yet. His "football" move to create pocession is him hiting the ground which is before the first down
Incredible to watch whether, your a boston fan or any other nfl fan. This id say should be in consideration for one of the 10 greatest comebacks in NFL history. It should atleast always be mentioned whenever you say the word "comeback" from now on.
i froze it 2 the 13 second mark and the ball is a little passed the first down marker and it doesnty matter where the feet are if the ball is passed the first down marker with possesion all the way through the play that is an easy first down but it looks like he had maintained posseion of the ball but i cant see it from another angle,i could be wrong though
the pats choked in this game i mean why go for it on 4th and 2 and having a chance that it might not happen and it was on their own 28 yard line and when you give manning or any quarterback 2 minutes on a 30 yard drive of course they are gonna score and if they dont then they flat out suck,it would of been so much better to punt the ball away and have manning drive the length of the field but instead belichick unknowingly gave peyton manning 2 minutes to make a 30 yard drive.
the pats choked in this game i mean why go for it on 4th and 2 and having a chance that it might not happen and it was on their own 28 yard line and when you give manning or any quarterback 2 minutes on a 30 yard drive of course they are gonna score and if they dont then they flat out suck,it would of been so much better if you punted the ball away and have manning drive the length of the field but instead belichick unmknowingly gave peyton manning 2 minutes to make a 30 yard drive....
@jdiba they explained it a hundred times during the broadcast. The ball was bobbled, thus forward progress is negated and the ball is spotted where he lands.
Is there some other video where it shows an official signaling that Faulk bobbled the
ball ? They official in this particular clip on the near sideline, the play occurred right
in front of him and what he is signaling is that it was a catch. That signal is the elbows going back and the hands coming into the chest/stomach. Thats what the official in THIS clip is showing. The fact that it was a catch wasn't in question.
okay people everyone know peyton is a better qb only you ignorant people think brady is better, even the nfl ranked manning top 5 players of all time, this is JOhn's Nflpicks.com or Joe Smoe's Ranking,this is the official NFL ranking & it doesnt even have Brady in the top 20...if its all about rings than y isnt troy aikman or joe montana talked about as much as Dan Marino is?.....everyone stop hating Manning is the best QB to ever play the game if they had bilichek coaching them, unstoppable...
Clear first down. He had it firmly against his chest with finial possession at the 30 yard line. Plain as day. Gutsy call and it was executed perfectly. Too bad Bill Polian controls how these games end up. It's a disgrace to the game.
and, btw, it's a clear first down. Faulk bobbles the ball in the air, but when his left foot comes down he has possession. When his left foot came down, the ball was to the right of his left foot. Where did his left foot land? on the 30 yard line. First down.
The best part of this is where the ref pretends he was even in any sort of position to see the bobble. Faulk had his back sheilding the refs entire view.
@GoPatriots100 It's not where he catches it, it's where it first counts as a reception. When it was officially a reception the ball was behind the line.
@resesmilk2 Brady is right with Elway, Montana, Marino, and Manning. And to say Brady has marketed himself more than anyone else is a joke, all you ever see is Manning in commercials.
lol all athletes do commercials numbnuts. does peyton do more than your average athlete? sure.
lol i'm talking about brady's ridiculous celebrity. lol go to google dot com and type in "tom brady" and see what pops up under images. take a good long look.
lol does anybody remember the magazine cover comparison segment they did during this game? lol and then the hof qb manning/brady poll? haha they really tore brady boy a new asshole. lol
Back to the play. I see why everyone thinks it was a stupid call, but it really wasn't. Think about it: if they had gotten it (and they were inches away from getting it) three kneeldowns and the game is over. Belicheck decided to win it right there. Seriously, in that situation would you put the ball in your MVP, Superbowl, HOF QB to win the game, or put it in the hands of the other teams MVP, Superbowl, HOF QB to possible win the game? Statisically, it was the right call to make. Period.
lol you moron... love how you play the SAME ANGEL over and over again to support your "theory."
for all you people who apparently didn't watch that game, he wasn't given forward momentum or anything like that because he bobbled the ball around and didn't gain control until it was too late and he was behind the line.
Also, Brady has won three Super Bowls on three game winning drives. I rather have rings than MVPs ... but it's your opinion. And if going 18-1 and losing in the Super Bowl because your star corner drops a pick and David Tyree makes "the helmet catch" is the worst stat on his resume, that's a pretty good resume. Brady > Manning.
HAHA oh give me a fucking break... i still have that game on dvr...
the giants defense fucking dominated brady for an entire 60 fucking minutes. lol listening to your "coulda woulda shoulda" crybaby bullshit is fucking hilarious. lol the giants dominated you guys on offense only a few weeks earlier that same season.
lol the giants earned every fucking inch of that super bowl championship.
lol still crying about your imperfect season 3 years later....
@resesmilk2 dominated? by 3 points after getting away with an illegal chokehold during the luckiest catch? yeah, that's domination. You giant fans are fucking delusional retards.
manning has 3 more league mvps, 5 more pro bowls, 4 more all pros, higher career regular season stats (by a landslide), higher post season career stats, more season and game records....
12.5 out of 15 hall of fame QUARTERBACKS agree that manning is better than brady.
48 members of the pro football hall of fame selection committee agree that manning is better than brady.
@resesmilk2 Manning also hasn't missed a game and doesn't fake injury. If you look on NFL.com Brady is listed as 'probable' for every game because his should hurts... He actually owns the record for starting the most consecutive games injured.
lol you take away montana's rings and he has monster titles and post season statistics to fall back on... you take away elways rings and he has monster statistics to fall back on... take away marino's invisible rings and he still monster stats to fall back on... take away manning's ring and he sill has monster records, titles, and statistics to fall back on.
take away belichick's rings and brady has nothing.
@resesmilk2 dude are you an idiot or just plain biased? Yes manning has a ton of records, all of which he earned. Brady has his fair share as well. The Most tds in a season, tied for most superbowl MVPs, oh and two weeks ago he become the fastest QB to get 100 wins, beating out manning by a wide margin. We can all debate who is better, but the fact of the matter is that both men are two of the best and both will be going to canton. I've accepted both as great. Makes me a better fan then you.
um... i NEVER said brady wasn't a good quarterback. i've only said brady is no where near the quarterback titans like elway, montana, marino, and manning. brady already has marketed himself more than any other player in nfl history and i, as do the hof selection committee members and any analyst who's opinions actually matter, get fucking sick of him trying to lean on montana and manning on top of it.
nothing but a sleezy single season td record he got by running up the score on worthless teams by shoving the ball down moss's throat... only to steal the record (by one touchdown) from manning after he set it only 3 years before and then sat for 2 games after doing it.
so not only is this one of brady's ONLY noteworthy records, but it's not meaningless and showed the world that brady is a classless douche
@ferrarimike23: Your argument is that Brady chokes ... umm, did you not see last year's Super Bowl? Who threw a pick when the game was on the line in the Super Bowl? As far as Im concerned, Manning NEVER threw a late pick in the regular season. I guess he just isn't a SB QB? Fine, he beat the Bears a few years back. Good for him. Enjoy your ring. But Brady "choking?" You're saying Brady chokes because he loses a week 2 game ... while Manning chokes in the Super Bowl.
@ferrarimike23 - ??? Brady led what should've been the GW drive in Super Bowl 42. Does Brady play defense now too? LOL. Oh and as for being the biggest choker in SB history. Try watching the last 5 minutes of Super Bowl 44. When people think of Peyton Manning, they think of his choking INT that cost his team the game.
@bobbyjones000098 actuallly they were already losing and against the saint defense i dont think anybody thought of a comeback win and i was rootin for the colts and i am a fan of the giants
@bobbyjones000098 Haha thats not what people think of when they think of Manning besides there has multiple people saying the pick is because of Reggie Waynes route
@bobbyjones000098 the colts would be winning alot more superbowls if they had a defense. o man the pats are so lucky the colts didnt have a defense that could hold there offense's leads all those years. think about it...
@alextheyankeehater "THEY WERE CAUGHT IN 2007" - I'm not denying that, I'm Just trying to clarify what happened - and it does seem a tremendous jump from "they did it in once 2007" to "That's why they won the super bowls".
@alextheyankeehater That must be why he has one ring and brady has 3. and brady has never thrown a pick six to lose an SB either. Idiot. All those field goals? What's manning done with vinatieri? LOL, terrible arguments.
@alextheyankeehater How's the argument over? Brady couldn't help those sacks. Peyton threw a pick six. Two different things. Peyton just choked like he always does. Take a seat, faggot.
Manning barely gets sacked because he does the smart thing: Get rid of the ball
Not Peyton's fault his receiver wasn't there to make the catch
1 pick six isn't as bad as scoring 14 points when Brady laughed at the idea that his team would score 17. The greatest offense got held to 14. Nuff said. You can't win this argument, because the Pats could have been the only 19-0 team, but the Colts weren't the first to lose a Super Bowl
@LBC6893 you might wanna check the existence of your cock and balls you stupid faggot pussy... 0-3 since spygate, 18-1 was the end of spygate... lol spygate got so popular it even had a little cameo on a southpark episode for cum guzzlers like you to cry about... now go wipe the cum off your face you disgusting shit cum dumpster..
@ODOMAN123 Youre such a fucking loser you cant possibly be older than 12. You also cant accept the fact that the Patriots have been the best team consistently for the past 10 years
@LBC6893 hey idiot, learn facts. spygate and post spygate post season records for the patriots are drastically different... and ur older than 12? then grow a sack of balls and a cock to go with it... be a fuckin man you fuckin pussy, man up and take ownership to the fact the patriots are tainted with a cheating past... now go fuck yourself
@ODOMAN123 youre the fucking idiot you cant even see your team doesnt stand a chance and youll be sitting there every week like a fucking dope hoping for a >.500% season.
Manning wasn't leading a team that was 18-0 and had shattered several records in the process. Patriot's loss to the Giants was a chokejob, and arguably the biggest one in sports history. Accept it.
@PhoenixLance13 how in the world is losing one game a chokejob ? nice logic so i guess every NFL team except for the 72 Dolphins are chokers lol stupid fuck the biggest chokejob (stupid word) is the 2004 Yankees a choke by definition is when a team has a huge lead and it looks like they have the game in the bag then all the sudden they blow it and lose thats a choke Patriots vs colts 2006 thats a choke
@PhoenixLance13 Are you fucking stupid? How can you say that the Patriots' loss to the Giants was a chokejob? The Pats didn't lose composure against the Giants. Brady connected to Moss for a touchdown in a crucial drive late at the 4th quarter that gave them the lead. How can you say they choked? It's just the Giants defense was just too much for the Patriots in that game and it's just all luck was on Eli Manning's side that time.
@PhoenixLance13 please, you must remind every delusional fuck head patriot fan out there about spygate cheating.. they seem to be forgetting about it again these days.. they're 0-3 since spygate, and 3* with spygate..
@PhoenixLance13 Manning COULD have lead an 18 - 0 team to the superbowl, but decided to take a rest the last two games of the season so that he could be better prepared for the playoffs. It played off in the end though when he won the superbowl....oh wait no he shit the bed and threw a pick six to seal the game for new orleans. Payton Manning = Choke. Accept it.
@PhoenixLance13 PHOENIXlance...Lol talk about chokejob? Last time suns won a nba championship? Last time arizona won? OH YEAH THEY LOST IT TO THE STEELERS U DUMB FAGGOT
@PhoenixLance13 Seriously? Did you not see that game and see how the Giants had played the Pats just a few weeks prior? Those teams were much more evenly matched than anyone gives credit of. The Pats didn't choke against the Giants, they just got beat. Now, you wanna talk about that AFC championship game against the Colts, that's another story!
@bobbyjones000098 The INT didnt totally end the game. The secondarys were playing terrible that game. They were extremely selfish for putting Peyton in that situation were for one Reggie takes 100% of the INT blame anyways watch it again he ran a really lazy looking route in a tigh space. Peyton threw it beautifly and Reggie let Porter step in and catch it. SB Chokes P. Manning: 1 T. Brady: 1 Manning over Brady any day!!!
You can repeat it 1 million times. It still isn't a first down. Move on in life.
SomeLittleShoe 3 weeks ago
Brady threw the ball too high. He also threw the pass to Welker in the Super Bowl off target. Brady has never been known for accuracy.
SomeLittleShoe 3 weeks ago
@SomeLittleShoe The ball hit Welker directly in his hands.
TheBlankityblank 3 weeks ago
@TheBlankityblank
Yeah, right in stride, eh?
SomeLittleShoe 3 weeks ago
yeah he had forward ptogress
videogameprojr 1 month ago
i hate the pats but that def looks like a first down.
BiohazardMercenaries 1 month ago
@BiohazardMercenaries
He bobbled the catch and didnt get control until after he had been pushed back behind the 1st down line. The receiver has to have control before it's considered a catch. He didn't have control on the 1st down side of the line.
SomeLittleShoe 3 weeks ago
That was a first down
mrjagp1 2 months ago
He had Welker on the slant...
235basketball 3 months ago
@johnwitty010101 No, it's the yellow line that is difficult to see over the 30 yard line. But it was still a first down.
anonymous11441144 3 months ago
how can pats fans call anyone cheaters?
rudolph20 4 months ago
Now the cheating Colts who pumped in crowd noise for years are tanking the season for Andrew Luck...
That Polian sure is a slippery devil... Hey Irsay, got any oxy????
hehehe
Theryougo1 4 months ago
Faulk made the first down easily.... This was a homer call for Polian who heads the NFL Rules Committee. Cheaters....
Theryougo1 4 months ago
@Theryougo1 Easily? I can understand saying he made it, but it wasn't "easily". The ball touched his hand a yard and a half infront of it, but he was bobbling it the whole time until he went to the ground which looked to be a few inches behind the 1st down marker.
ambvlntSoul 3 months ago
Not even first down.... He did have control till just shy of the 1st down
RcVandMore 4 months ago
a lot of you idiots think its a first down. He had fully CAUGHT the ball at around the 30 yard line, however he only had one foot down. Once he got the 2nd foot down, the ball was just shy of the 30. Even if it was a first down the Pats couldnt have reviewed it because you guys burned your timeouts before this play. Can't blame anyone but yourselves and your dumbass coach to go for it on 4th and 2.
xee00 5 months ago
Lol, pats suck
MrRondofan9 5 months ago
@MrRondofan9 how are the colts doing this year?
Mark53190 4 months ago
@Mark53190 im not a colts fan dumbass
MrRondofan9 4 months ago
@MrRondofan9 well fuck you
Mark53190 4 months ago
i was at that game with both my father and close friend who are both pats fans. i can tell you right now that was not a first down. i'm not exactly sure what it is you're showing here but it's a fake
nicka903 5 months ago
wow fucking got it
thenewyorkjets991 5 months ago
clearly got the first down pats have been getting horrible calls against them since 06 afc championship game and especially the last drive against giants maybe tom isnt white enough to be liked my inbreds
r14485 5 months ago
terrible call
jc2fly 5 months ago
I guess it's forward progress unless it helps out Payton and ol' Blue.
StarshipKoyote 5 months ago
Worst officiating call in NFL history.
UsonianAC 5 months ago
@UsonianAC It wasn't a bad call you idiot. Faulk didn't have full possesion of the ball. He bobbled it at first. By the time he had full possesion, he was behind the marker. Not a first down
gamelvr1 5 months ago
@gamelvr1 By the time he had possession, he was across the 30. Should have definitely been a first down.
DrMcNoob 5 months ago
@DrMcNoob but his feet landed behind the 1st down mark so yeah it should have been a first down and it was to the correct team..the colts
88indycolts85 3 months ago
It looked like his first foot was down.
Andyrvb 6 months ago
Tyler Thigpen is a Pre-season star tho so Brady and Manning resume's are both a little weak! ;)
Th3fr4nchi5e 6 months ago
LBC6893 is a fag in denial about the spygate scandal...
ODOMAN123 6 months ago
that's the line of scrimmage.
tgoetz1010 6 months ago
anyone else notice the dark spot on the field at the bottom?
Ghost4ever64 7 months ago
@earthpart3 Rookies you had 1 starting rookie on offense so thats not that big of a deal. For Defense you had 3 rookies. Just because someone is a rookie doesnt mean they suck so stop using that bullshit ass line.
jccollins4 7 months ago
@earthpart3 That pick six came from a horribly ran route and Wayne even takes fault for it. Faggot really are you still in high school? Brady has had his share of choke jobs as well.
jccollins4 7 months ago
he clearly has possession beyond the first down. just like how the giants got away with a chokehold on seymour on the tyree fluke, pats always get screwed anymore
earthpart3 7 months ago
The PI should have been called on the next play, and was called against the PATS in that game at key times.
AZCROALEX 7 months ago
Nope that's not the way it happened, he was running back, his momentum is going backwards too. This time we were not robbed. He just should have got another yard before he curled. That's why I like a slant better then a curl in or out in this situation. I've seen this happen many times in games. I'm a homer too, I'm just realistic and objective.
AZCROALEX 7 months ago
lets talk about Tom being scared to get hit in superbowl with the Giants
deejayskusee13 8 months ago
@deejayskusee13 let's talk about how he's one of the best ever and you're just some fag on youtube
earthpart3 7 months ago
@earthpart3 lets talk about how they recorded ppl at pratice so they would know thee plays so they could won the superbowl and it wasnt Tom Brady who did the work it was there defense dick sucker and your QB wheres make-up fag
deejayskusee13 7 months ago
@deejayskusee13 yeah, i guess he just let them to 14-2 with a bunch of rookies and one of the best statistical years for a QB ever, because of the defense. I guess the defense threw touchdown passes and got them in field goal range. I guess their defense threw 50TDs and 8INTs. Faggot.
earthpart3 7 months ago
@earthpart3 yupp thats why he did so good and won the superbowl wait lol that weak nigga punk out Tom Brady a fag your his b|tch both yahh suck dick
deejayskusee13 7 months ago
**** Read this for the Official call !!! ****
Look at the runner at 0:15 you can clearly see he has pocession right? Well he had no ball control at all untill this point. He was bobbling it due to I think it was Gary Brackett hittihng him behind the line. The call is controversial for NO REASON! Its really simple.
End of story! lol
SantmyreFilms 8 months ago
@SantmyreFilms he had posession before that. he had possesion over the line. the ball was never bobbled. it never moves after he gets control and then gets pushed back.
heyarnoldfan12 8 months ago
Worst call ever. Yeah I'm a Patriots fan but this call is just...one of the worst ever. Kevin Faulk got that first down. Even worse is that the VERY NEXT PLAY is the one that no one remembers as much...A freaking PASS INTERFERENCE.
lukerbom12 9 months ago
@lukerbom12 I'm just as Big a Pats fan as anyone, but his own momentum, brought him back and when he hit the ground with his elbow the ball was behind the line again.
Kind of like when a receiver gains a first down but does a little curl around a defender and steps behind the line. We seen it happen many times over the years when the receiver gets downed behind the line and doesn't get the first down... SAME CONCEPT, and this video clearly illustrates it
...
AZCROALEX 9 months ago
@AZCROALEX Pause at 0:12. He's past the first down line and the defender is hitting him back, not his own momentum. That should be a first down.
lukerbom12 9 months ago
@lukerbom12 The reason that didnt matter is because noone looks at his hands. He didnt have any ball control till he was behind the first down marker. No first down. Its obvious!
SantmyreFilms 8 months ago
@lukerbom12 Pass Interference wasn't called the play after this one. You're thinking of a call that happened before this drive, which replays from other angles confirmed that it was indeed pass interference. The bottom line is the Patriots have no one to blame but themselves by taking a risky gamble with no timeouts left to challenge the play. The Colts beat the Patriots, and the calls had nothing to do with them winning. It was the stupidity of the Patriots that cost them the game.
Eclipton 8 months ago
@Eclipton Then maybe my memory is a bit fuzzy. But it wasn't a bad gamble. The Patriots defense was SUCKING. It was the right call. It was the only thing they could do to end the game. The defense just couldn't stop Manning. Even an interception, up 10 with 5 minutes left and on the Colts side of the field, wasn't enough. (The Patriots almost did the same thing last year; their offense and defense stopped working in the 4th quarter. Thank God for James Sander.)
lukerbom12 8 months ago
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damn red line is wayy off
FeebleNosemanny 11 months ago
@FeebleNosemanny lol that's the line of scrimmage. the yellow line is the 1st down marker.
naruto81791 10 months ago
@naruto81791 wow. thanks that always confused me. usually on 4th down (on some networks) the 1st down line is red. and I never even saw the yellow line next to the 30 yard line)
FeebleNosemanny 10 months ago
as of this time, no one beats Peyton Manning when it comes to who's the best quarter back!!!!
brusko3269 11 months ago
That was a horrible gamble by Belichick.
But then, maybe he did not trust his defense against Manning.
No matter.
Bad move.
George Vreeland Hill
GeorgeVreelandHill 1 year ago
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W/o brady the pats went 11-5. W/o manning the colts went 3-13 this shows that manning takes a sub-par team to the playoffs every year
Manning > Brady
sds654 1 year ago
@sds654 Orrrrr Bill belichick is the greatest coach in history. Dumbass.
blueflame1258 11 months ago
@blueflame1258 was i talking about bill belichick.... dumbass
sds654 11 months ago
@sds654 But belichick coaches the pats you scrub.
blueflame1258 11 months ago
@blueflame1258 i believe the whole world knows that
sds654 11 months ago
@sds654 Wow. just forget it dumbass
blueflame1258 11 months ago
@blueflame1258 ill like to thank you on replying on something that was 2 months old
sds654 11 months ago
@sds654 or maybe the fact that belichick is a good coach. chiefs just made the playoffs with cassel too, th ere goes your argument moron
earthpart3 7 months ago
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sds654 1 year ago
good call.....as in good call for going for it cus the call by the refs on tht play was complete bullshit.
milanlucic09 1 year ago
Video angle is really bad, makes him seem farther than he really is. Forward progress only counts once the reciever has pocession, which really isn't until he's on the ground. Why? Because when a reciever jumps up and catches a ball, comes down on 2 feet, but then loses the ball, its an incompletion not a fumble, same goes for this. when his feet touch the ground he doesn't have pocession yet. His "football" move to create pocession is him hiting the ground which is before the first down
lionslicer9999 1 year ago
Incredible to watch whether, your a boston fan or any other nfl fan. This id say should be in consideration for one of the 10 greatest comebacks in NFL history. It should atleast always be mentioned whenever you say the word "comeback" from now on.
brianklick 1 year ago
Melvin Bullitt making the play and what a play it wass
foofightersfan94 1 year ago
Dude, the sound is too loud. You need to make it softer.
Almost broke my speakers.
Kamakazi242012 1 year ago
If they kiked it peyton would of stilled scored, the defense could not maintain the colts offense so belechick had to go for i.
DREDRE269 1 year ago
i froze it 2 the 13 second mark and the ball is a little passed the first down marker and it doesnty matter where the feet are if the ball is passed the first down marker with possesion all the way through the play that is an easy first down but it looks like he had maintained posseion of the ball but i cant see it from another angle,i could be wrong though
titob32 1 year ago
the pats choked in this game i mean why go for it on 4th and 2 and having a chance that it might not happen and it was on their own 28 yard line and when you give manning or any quarterback 2 minutes on a 30 yard drive of course they are gonna score and if they dont then they flat out suck,it would of been so much better to punt the ball away and have manning drive the length of the field but instead belichick unknowingly gave peyton manning 2 minutes to make a 30 yard drive.
titob32 1 year ago
the pats choked in this game i mean why go for it on 4th and 2 and having a chance that it might not happen and it was on their own 28 yard line and when you give manning or any quarterback 2 minutes on a 30 yard drive of course they are gonna score and if they dont then they flat out suck,it would of been so much better if you punted the ball away and have manning drive the length of the field but instead belichick unmknowingly gave peyton manning 2 minutes to make a 30 yard drive....
titob32 1 year ago
And if you give him his forward progress as to where the catch occurred, it should have been 1st down, New England. Doesn't matter now though
jdiba 1 year ago
@jdiba they explained it a hundred times during the broadcast. The ball was bobbled, thus forward progress is negated and the ball is spotted where he lands.
MegaLlamalord 6 months ago
Is there some other video where it shows an official signaling that Faulk bobbled the
ball ? They official in this particular clip on the near sideline, the play occurred right
in front of him and what he is signaling is that it was a catch. That signal is the elbows going back and the hands coming into the chest/stomach. Thats what the official in THIS clip is showing. The fact that it was a catch wasn't in question.
It was the spot they gave him.
jdiba 1 year ago
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He made it. Keep watching it. He got the 1st down. Watch where he catches the ball.
Forward progress, then driven back. 1st down New England. They should have been allowed to take a knee 3 times and go home with a W.
jdiba 1 year ago
Too bad he was juggleing the ball the whole way, which is what the ref signaled when he marked him down.
bjchit 1 year ago
@jdiba your wrong, its not forward progress unless you make the catch, he was bobbling the ball until he hit the ground
XtremeFed 1 year ago
@XtremeFed is right, sad to say
gocelts34n7 1 year ago
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He made it. Keep watching it. He got the 1st down.
jdiba 1 year ago
okay people everyone know peyton is a better qb only you ignorant people think brady is better, even the nfl ranked manning top 5 players of all time, this is JOhn's Nflpicks.com or Joe Smoe's Ranking,this is the official NFL ranking & it doesnt even have Brady in the top 20...if its all about rings than y isnt troy aikman or joe montana talked about as much as Dan Marino is?.....everyone stop hating Manning is the best QB to ever play the game if they had bilichek coaching them, unstoppable...
Speedyg018 1 year ago
@Speedyg018 I'm sorry youre too retarded to see how much Tom Brady is better than overrated Manning
LBC6893 1 year ago
@LBC6893 haha your stupid
fredrickran19 1 year ago
@fredrickran19 actually im 100% correct. dumbass.
LBC6893 1 year ago
in all seriousness that was a first down
ajmckenna4 1 year ago
@ajmckenna4 he was juggling the ball so no it wasnt but nice try
smvgamer2395 1 year ago
@smvgamer2395 alright he juggled it a first but then had it b4 the yellow line, take a closer look, this isn't a good view anyway
ajmckenna4 1 year ago
Clear first down. He had it firmly against his chest with finial possession at the 30 yard line. Plain as day. Gutsy call and it was executed perfectly. Too bad Bill Polian controls how these games end up. It's a disgrace to the game.
windtested 1 year ago
and, btw, it's a clear first down. Faulk bobbles the ball in the air, but when his left foot comes down he has possession. When his left foot came down, the ball was to the right of his left foot. Where did his left foot land? on the 30 yard line. First down.
ChokeslamToHell 1 year ago
The best part of this is where the ref pretends he was even in any sort of position to see the bobble. Faulk had his back sheilding the refs entire view.
ChokeslamToHell 1 year ago
Which is why he was signaling he bobbled the ball as he marked him down.
bjchit 1 year ago
that is SUCH a first down I don't understand the call
GoPatriots100 1 year ago
@GoPatriots100 He doesnt have control until 13 secs then his foot comes down.
AbhinderShinda 1 year ago
@GoPatriots100 It's not where he catches it, it's where it first counts as a reception. When it was officially a reception the ball was behind the line.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
He did not have controll of the ball this vid does not show up close on that part....a pats fan must have uploaded it
137Ebay 1 year ago
This is definetley a first down, Faulk controls the ball right at the 1st down line. This play pretty much was the turning point in the pats season.
ledzepfan7575 1 year ago
@resesmilk2 Brady is right with Elway, Montana, Marino, and Manning. And to say Brady has marketed himself more than anyone else is a joke, all you ever see is Manning in commercials.
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resesmilk2 1 year ago
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@ledzepfan7575
lol all athletes do commercials numbnuts. does peyton do more than your average athlete? sure.
lol i'm talking about brady's ridiculous celebrity. lol go to google dot com and type in "tom brady" and see what pops up under images. take a good long look.
lol does anybody remember the magazine cover comparison segment they did during this game? lol and then the hof qb manning/brady poll? haha they really tore brady boy a new asshole. lol
resesmilk2 1 year ago
Back to the play. I see why everyone thinks it was a stupid call, but it really wasn't. Think about it: if they had gotten it (and they were inches away from getting it) three kneeldowns and the game is over. Belicheck decided to win it right there. Seriously, in that situation would you put the ball in your MVP, Superbowl, HOF QB to win the game, or put it in the hands of the other teams MVP, Superbowl, HOF QB to possible win the game? Statisically, it was the right call to make. Period.
jjester2345 1 year ago
Wes Welker was wide open. Thank god Brady didn't see him.
morrdc 1 year ago
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@xnickx5757
lol you moron... love how you play the SAME ANGEL over and over again to support your "theory."
for all you people who apparently didn't watch that game, he wasn't given forward momentum or anything like that because he bobbled the ball around and didn't gain control until it was too late and he was behind the line.
moving on...
resesmilk2 1 year ago
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resesmilk2 1 year ago
It works in Madden, it can work in real life. The ref just blew the call.
KingOfKatamari 1 year ago
It doesn't matter if their body is passed the line, his foot is in front of the line and his body lands in front of it.
TheVideoperson25 1 year ago
Also, Brady has won three Super Bowls on three game winning drives. I rather have rings than MVPs ... but it's your opinion. And if going 18-1 and losing in the Super Bowl because your star corner drops a pick and David Tyree makes "the helmet catch" is the worst stat on his resume, that's a pretty good resume. Brady > Manning.
deatheater8 1 year ago
@deatheater8
HAHA oh give me a fucking break... i still have that game on dvr...
the giants defense fucking dominated brady for an entire 60 fucking minutes. lol listening to your "coulda woulda shoulda" crybaby bullshit is fucking hilarious. lol the giants dominated you guys on offense only a few weeks earlier that same season.
lol the giants earned every fucking inch of that super bowl championship.
lol still crying about your imperfect season 3 years later....
resesmilk2 1 year ago
@resesmilk2 dominated? by 3 points after getting away with an illegal chokehold during the luckiest catch? yeah, that's domination. You giant fans are fucking delusional retards.
earthpart3 7 months ago
@deatheater8
lol hmm.... let's see:
manning has 3 more league mvps, 5 more pro bowls, 4 more all pros, higher career regular season stats (by a landslide), higher post season career stats, more season and game records....
12.5 out of 15 hall of fame QUARTERBACKS agree that manning is better than brady.
48 members of the pro football hall of fame selection committee agree that manning is better than brady.
interesting.
resesmilk2 1 year ago
@resesmilk2 You forgot to mention that Manning's the fastest to reach 50000 passing yards in NFL history.
Eclipton 1 year ago
@Eclipton
also fastest to 1,000 completions
also fastest to 2,000 completions
also fastest to 3,000 completions
also fastest to 4,000 completions
resesmilk2 1 year ago
@resesmilk2 Manning also hasn't missed a game and doesn't fake injury. If you look on NFL.com Brady is listed as 'probable' for every game because his should hurts... He actually owns the record for starting the most consecutive games injured.
lionslicer9999 1 year ago
@deatheater8
lol you take away montana's rings and he has monster titles and post season statistics to fall back on... you take away elways rings and he has monster statistics to fall back on... take away marino's invisible rings and he still monster stats to fall back on... take away manning's ring and he sill has monster records, titles, and statistics to fall back on.
take away belichick's rings and brady has nothing.
resesmilk2 1 year ago
@resesmilk2 dude are you an idiot or just plain biased? Yes manning has a ton of records, all of which he earned. Brady has his fair share as well. The Most tds in a season, tied for most superbowl MVPs, oh and two weeks ago he become the fastest QB to get 100 wins, beating out manning by a wide margin. We can all debate who is better, but the fact of the matter is that both men are two of the best and both will be going to canton. I've accepted both as great. Makes me a better fan then you.
jjester2345 1 year ago
@jjester2345
um... i NEVER said brady wasn't a good quarterback. i've only said brady is no where near the quarterback titans like elway, montana, marino, and manning. brady already has marketed himself more than any other player in nfl history and i, as do the hof selection committee members and any analyst who's opinions actually matter, get fucking sick of him trying to lean on montana and manning on top of it.
resesmilk2 1 year ago
@deatheater8
nothing but a sleezy single season td record he got by running up the score on worthless teams by shoving the ball down moss's throat... only to steal the record (by one touchdown) from manning after he set it only 3 years before and then sat for 2 games after doing it.
so not only is this one of brady's ONLY noteworthy records, but it's not meaningless and showed the world that brady is a classless douche
resesmilk2 1 year ago
@deatheater8
lol the manning vs brady debate has been over for like two years now. manning came out on top. quit crying. get over it. and move on with your life.
resesmilk2 1 year ago
@ferrarimike23: Your argument is that Brady chokes ... umm, did you not see last year's Super Bowl? Who threw a pick when the game was on the line in the Super Bowl? As far as Im concerned, Manning NEVER threw a late pick in the regular season. I guess he just isn't a SB QB? Fine, he beat the Bears a few years back. Good for him. Enjoy your ring. But Brady "choking?" You're saying Brady chokes because he loses a week 2 game ... while Manning chokes in the Super Bowl.
deatheater8 1 year ago
Manning over Brady
Manning is way smarter when the deffence tightens up he breaks it down
Brady on the other hand chokes like he did against the jets last week
And he will forever remain the biggest choker in superbowl history 18-1 lol
ferrarimike23 1 year ago
@ferrarimike23 very well said! couldnt agree more
coltsrulebobsanders 1 year ago
@ferrarimike23 - ??? Brady led what should've been the GW drive in Super Bowl 42. Does Brady play defense now too? LOL. Oh and as for being the biggest choker in SB history. Try watching the last 5 minutes of Super Bowl 44. When people think of Peyton Manning, they think of his choking INT that cost his team the game.
bobbyjones000098 1 year ago 3
@bobbyjones000098 actuallly they were already losing and against the saint defense i dont think anybody thought of a comeback win and i was rootin for the colts and i am a fan of the giants
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quizno1615 1 year ago
@bobbyjones000098 Haha thats not what people think of when they think of Manning besides there has multiple people saying the pick is because of Reggie Waynes route
quizno1615 1 year ago
@bobbyjones000098 the colts would be winning alot more superbowls if they had a defense. o man the pats are so lucky the colts didnt have a defense that could hold there offense's leads all those years. think about it...
SlasherSlay 1 year ago
@bobbyjones000098
Last time I checked the Colts didn't use Spygate to win the Super Bowl.
Peyton Manning is better no question.
4 MVPS, Super Bowl, Super Bowl MVP, longest regular season winning streak, 11 Pro Bowls, ESPN and NFL Network say he's better
alextheyankeehater 1 year ago
@bobbyjones000098
Last time I checked the Colts didn't use Spygate to win the Super Bowl.
Peyton Manning is better no question.
4 MVPS, Super Bowl, Super Bowl MVP, longest regular season winning streak, 11 Pro Bowls, ESPN and NFL Network say he's better
alextheyankeehater 1 year ago
@alextheyankeehater Don't know much about this as a UK fan - but last time I checked, spygate was one game in 2007, so neither did the pats.
Stuartdouglas19 1 year ago
@Stuartdouglas19
When I last checked, THEY WERE CAUGHT IN 2007.
Who knows, they very likely could have spy gated
alextheyankeehater 1 year ago
@alextheyankeehater "THEY WERE CAUGHT IN 2007" - I'm not denying that, I'm Just trying to clarify what happened - and it does seem a tremendous jump from "they did it in once 2007" to "That's why they won the super bowls".
Stuartdouglas19 1 year ago
@alextheyankeehater 3>1 dumb fag
earthpart3 7 months ago
@earthpart3
Vinatieri- 4 Rings
Brady- 3 because of Vinatieri
Brady needs a tremendous supporting cast, great coach, and clutch kicker to make him good. See 2008 Patriots season with a high school QB.
alextheyankeehater 7 months ago
@earthpart3
Oh sorry, since when was Brady his own coach, played defense by himself, and made all those field goals?
He's only had 2 GOOD seasons, Manning has put it up every single season.
Idiot
alextheyankeehater 7 months ago
@alextheyankeehater That must be why he has one ring and brady has 3. and brady has never thrown a pick six to lose an SB either. Idiot. All those field goals? What's manning done with vinatieri? LOL, terrible arguments.
earthpart3 7 months ago
@earthpart3
When did Manning take like 5 sacks and miss Moss in the last minute?
There's a Super Bowl winner every year, but there hasn't been a 19-0 team.
18-1 is worse than one interception.
Take a seat, argument over.
alextheyankeehater 7 months ago
@alextheyankeehater How's the argument over? Brady couldn't help those sacks. Peyton threw a pick six. Two different things. Peyton just choked like he always does. Take a seat, faggot.
earthpart3 7 months ago
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alextheyankeehater 7 months ago
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Manning barely gets sacked because he does the smart thing: Get rid of the ball
Not Peyton's fault his receiver wasn't there to make the catch
1 pick six isn't as bad as scoring 14 points when Brady laughed at the idea that his team would score 17. The greatest offense got held to 14. Nuff said. You can't win this argument, because the Pats could have been the only 19-0 team, but the Colts weren't the first to lose a Super Bowl
alextheyankeehater 7 months ago
@earthpart3 0-3 post season patriots record since spygate, take a seat.
ODOMAN123 6 months ago
@ODOMAN123 kiss the rings pussy, take a seat yourself
earthpart3 6 months ago
@ODOMAN123 You might want to check ur facts again cunt
LBC6893 6 months ago
@LBC6893 you might wanna check the existence of your cock and balls you stupid faggot pussy... 0-3 since spygate, 18-1 was the end of spygate... lol spygate got so popular it even had a little cameo on a southpark episode for cum guzzlers like you to cry about... now go wipe the cum off your face you disgusting shit cum dumpster..
ODOMAN123 6 months ago
@ODOMAN123 Youre such a fucking loser you cant possibly be older than 12. You also cant accept the fact that the Patriots have been the best team consistently for the past 10 years
LBC6893 6 months ago
@LBC6893 hey idiot, learn facts. spygate and post spygate post season records for the patriots are drastically different... and ur older than 12? then grow a sack of balls and a cock to go with it... be a fuckin man you fuckin pussy, man up and take ownership to the fact the patriots are tainted with a cheating past... now go fuck yourself
ODOMAN123 6 months ago
@ODOMAN123 youre the fucking idiot you cant even see your team doesnt stand a chance and youll be sitting there every week like a fucking dope hoping for a >.500% season.
LBC6893 6 months ago
@ODOMAN123 and dont even bother responding i have better things to do than argue football with a 12 year old cocksucker who doesnt know shit.
LBC6893 6 months ago
@bobbyjones000098
Manning wasn't leading a team that was 18-0 and had shattered several records in the process. Patriot's loss to the Giants was a chokejob, and arguably the biggest one in sports history. Accept it.
PhoenixLance13 10 months ago
@PhoenixLance13 they should've gone 19-0 anyway after cheating as much as they did. guess they didn't have time to catch the Giants' practices.
itsadeepburn 9 months ago
@PhoenixLance13 how in the world is losing one game a chokejob ? nice logic so i guess every NFL team except for the 72 Dolphins are chokers lol stupid fuck the biggest chokejob (stupid word) is the 2004 Yankees a choke by definition is when a team has a huge lead and it looks like they have the game in the bag then all the sudden they blow it and lose thats a choke Patriots vs colts 2006 thats a choke
THAxTRUTH508 8 months ago
@PhoenixLance13 Are you fucking stupid? How can you say that the Patriots' loss to the Giants was a chokejob? The Pats didn't lose composure against the Giants. Brady connected to Moss for a touchdown in a crucial drive late at the 4th quarter that gave them the lead. How can you say they choked? It's just the Giants defense was just too much for the Patriots in that game and it's just all luck was on Eli Manning's side that time.
It's not a choke. It's an upset, you retard!
godlike899 7 months ago
@godlike899
A piece of advice: if you want to make a point, dont insult someone in the process.
PhoenixLance13 7 months ago
@PhoenixLance13 holding on the tyree play, sorry.
earthpart3 7 months ago
@PhoenixLance13 please, you must remind every delusional fuck head patriot fan out there about spygate cheating.. they seem to be forgetting about it again these days.. they're 0-3 since spygate, and 3* with spygate..
ODOMAN123 6 months ago
earthpart3 IS A FAG
ODOMAN123 6 months ago 11
@ODOMAN123 k, say it to my face or shut up, fake ass youtube bitch
earthpart3 6 months ago
@earthpart3 no problem.
YOU'RE A FAG
ODOMAN123 6 months ago
@ODOMAN123 That's not to my face, little bitch.
earthpart3 6 months ago
@earthpart3 you want it so bad faggot, come get it. faggot.
ODOMAN123 6 months ago
@PhoenixLance13 Manning COULD have lead an 18 - 0 team to the superbowl, but decided to take a rest the last two games of the season so that he could be better prepared for the playoffs. It played off in the end though when he won the superbowl....oh wait no he shit the bed and threw a pick six to seal the game for new orleans. Payton Manning = Choke. Accept it.
MoDanny17 6 months ago
@MoDanny17 Actually, it wasn't even Manning's decision to rest dumbass. And yes he choked, every QB does that. Accept it.
GuitarGod229 6 months ago
@PhoenixLance13 PHOENIXlance...Lol talk about chokejob? Last time suns won a nba championship? Last time arizona won? OH YEAH THEY LOST IT TO THE STEELERS U DUMB FAGGOT
Dbn713 6 months ago
@Dbn713
I dont live in Phoenix, nor am I a fan of the Suns or Cardinals (although I do feel that they were cheated out of a Super Bowl). In a word: fail.
PhoenixLance13 6 months ago
@PhoenixLance13 Seriously? Did you not see that game and see how the Giants had played the Pats just a few weeks prior? Those teams were much more evenly matched than anyone gives credit of. The Pats didn't choke against the Giants, they just got beat. Now, you wanna talk about that AFC championship game against the Colts, that's another story!
MCRedThree 6 months ago
@bobbyjones000098 The INT didnt totally end the game. The secondarys were playing terrible that game. They were extremely selfish for putting Peyton in that situation were for one Reggie takes 100% of the INT blame anyways watch it again he ran a really lazy looking route in a tigh space. Peyton threw it beautifly and Reggie let Porter step in and catch it. SB Chokes P. Manning: 1 T. Brady: 1 Manning over Brady any day!!!
SantmyreFilms 8 months ago