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  • how can you say that's trunks sword, HE NEVER SAID I GOT A THIS SWORD FROM A WEIRD GUY

  • Movies are not connected to the story in anyway. How future trunks gets his sword is still a mystery. All we know is it was crafted by an master sword maker. Present trunks doesn't uses a sword ever in the show in the intro you see him swing it at something but you never see him uses it. Again movies do not connect to the tv show in anyway there in my opinion extra story line the wanted to make changes things up a little.

  • ya i've been wonderen about that its weird

  • Its the time mactchn it cunfuces every 1

  • how is tish right after the cell sagai if goku goes superbadass 3 against hirodogon

  • The Cell saga and time travel made everything really confusing in the series...

  • Simple Answer.

    Time Travel Screws Up Logic

  • The reason to that is multiple times and spaces. The future trunks that had the sword was the trunks from the future AFTER they killed cell and the androids while trunks was still a baby. Therefore the future trunks with the sword was actually this trunks you see in the movie, from the future.

  • Well remember after Gohan killed Cell, Trunks went back to his time, and killed the Androids and Cell. So actually this would've happened because the future was altered to where the Androids and Cell would be dead.

  • @Dmitriman123 though that wouldn't change a thing because of how much age difference there is to future trunks and the trunks you see in this video, which means Hildegarn would have either already came to earth but left right after since it was dead basically or he just never shown up.

  • @Dmitriman123 in the actual series trunks tell goku that killing the androids in their time would not affect the future trunks' timeline, and he says it again when piccolo fights cell the first time. hence he had to kill all of them in his own time. so future trunks' timeline and history is completely different from the plot in the series. plus everyone but trunks is dead and the dragonballs are gone, which they used to open the box, but anyway the movies have nothing to do with series supposly

  • Gohan was future Trunks's sensei, he gave hin his sword. Future Trukns came from a diferent, lets say, future dimension, and if you pay atention that is the same sword that the Supreme Kaio-Sama, or how ever it's espelled, was trapted in. Finaly Movies or OVA's have litle or nothing to do with the series time line.

  • I like your vids but FUCK do I hate your intro, dude.

  • stop finding mistakes please

  • Also make it more present able. You sound like you are mumbling in some of these. If you must, write down what you want to say first so that the people can get to the viewing faster. Plus you wouldn't be sounding like you are trying to think of what to say next with all those "and's" or sound like you are stumbling over your words.

  • You are wrong. If you watched the episode where Trunks came to the past you should know that he has changed quite a bit of the future just by going back that first time. Man why can't you just enjoy the movies? You would make a laughable critique because of how little you can figure out. I am so done watching these. Seeing someone find mistakes is only fun when they think it all the way through first.

  • your acutely wrong because if you look closely at future trunks sword is clearly thinner and longer the thing that's the weird part is the sheath is the same

  • You couldn't be way off with your mistake on this one.

    This didn't take place after the Cell Games Saga, this took place after the Kid Buu Saga.

    Gohan was Mystic Gohan in the movie, and dead giveaway was that Goku isn't dead anymore and he can go into SSJ3 form, and if that doesn't help. Let's not forget the fact that Goten and Trunks know the fusion technique which Goku taught them.

    Also the movies are all non-canon so it doesn't really matter.

  • @BigD666 U Have No Idea What This Video Is About Do You? Is Not About The Time It Took Place But That Future Trunks Was Not Suppose To Have This Sword...

  • @IPwnAndYouCry Um what? Care to explain, one in the series they never explained how Future Trunks got the sword in the first place, this is a non-canon movie that has nothing to do with the DBZ series. It wouldn't conflict with it, since he has the sword in DBGT which was also a Non-canon series.

    So if you're going to try to correct me sir, make sure you come at me with a good argument.

  • @IPwnAndYouCry Plus if you paid attention to what Future Trunks said when he discovered Cell returned back with his time machine 3 years ago before he did. He said "That time has changed too much already." So this "What if" movie is a nothing more than the fabric of time mending itself and changing and resulting into how Trunks earned his sword that he uses as an adult.

  • its just a cartoon man just a cartoon

  • what kind of toaster do you record with

  • You dumbass this took place when they defeated buu. Btw this is a different future than the future trunks future.

  • Revenge of Cooler: Again, Goku should be dead. No one knew Vegeta could go SSj until the android saga. Bojack Unbound: This one could be true but it is doubtful because Trunks returns to his future after Cell is destroyed. Legendary Super Saiyan: same problem and Goku is dead. Super Android 13: Goku should be dead. And Vegeta should have been strong enough to finish them all of alone. Not to mention ssj2 gohan. I could keep going, but I'm sure you get the point. The movies don't follow the show.

  • @randomcracka3 Bojack Unbound: I remember hearing Bulma say that she's glad that Future Trunks came back to the present just to join the tournament after killing Cell. So this one (and Wrath of the Dragon) are the 2 easiest ones to place in the timeline

  • @Vegeto30294 That's true. But there still is the whole getting a day of life thing. But it's completely possible. I just wanna know why everyone was surprised to see real aliens like they haven't been getting attacked and killed by them all the time. And what do they think Piccolo is. They are all ok with animals talking and walking around, people playing with dinosaurs and flying dragons, but God forbid aliens. That can't be possible. haha, The joy of DBZ earthlings.

  • It doesn't matter. All the movies basically have there own alternate timeline. Lord Slug: Goku should be dead because it is supposed to take place after the saiyans came to earth. Tree of Might: same problem. Cooler's Revenge Goku was stuck in space during this time. And for those who say it could have happened in between Trunks' arrival and the androids it couldn't have because by the time Goku got back to earth he had full control over his super saiyan abilities.

  • I forgot about Dead Zone. It has the same problem as Lord Slug

  • @randomcracka3 It couldn't take place before the saiyans because Piccolo was still trying to kill Goku.

  • this happened after the buu saga.

  • How would the hyrudagon story never happen I didn't understand???

  • no if you account for the fact that they never explain how future trunks got the sword also their was no telling if the wrath of the dragon did take place in future trunks universe do to it being a parallel time line of his own so its just you know whatever and lastly its a movie their are always plot holes

  • You need to get your crap right, first, YOU'RE WRONG! In the 12th movie Fusion Reborn he explains that he only went to Super Saiyan three up against majin quote: " Only majin Buu has pushed me this far, you may act innocent but you're deadly" You're WRONG!

  • Well your right 22videogamer but think of it this way Future Trunks CHANGED the future of the timeline DBZ takes place in so mabye the way Trunks gets the sword changed also

  • n also bulma made that sword for him n the movie history of trunks bro u missed a very important part....

  • remember when they killed the androids well he said that in his world nothing changed so that means his space ship can change time but it cant change the future

  • it cant be what if storys if ss4 vegeta talks about reglur fushion with goku in gt

  • @customelegodude GT isn't part of DBZ or anything. It isn't even canon. It's basically just a long movie. And it's not even by the makers of DBZ, so you can't give it any credit.

  • @22videogamer It is a Different chain of events so it is different future. Majin Buu was never mentioned in the FTrunk storyline either. FTrunks mentions something along the lines of Time Shifting when he returns to find the Z Fighters have already fought #19 and Dr. Gero. I have provided proof below (there's a mistake you can also wank over)

    /watch?feature=player_detailpa­ge&v=12dkGTWP_cs#t=58s

  • the movies are supposed to be different universes of dbz, they arnt supposed to go along with the series....thats y they r made as different movies then put into series.

  • The movie is to show how future turnks got his sword. The Wrath of the Dragon takes place at least seven years after the androids first appeared. Goku and Vegeta died seven years before that. Vegeta killed by the androids and goku died of a heart virus. The dragonballs should be inert since piccolo died seven years prior. Goten shouldn't exist since his dad died before being conceived. Kid Trunks couldn't go super saiyan until he's thirteen. Tapion the took the only time machine that didnt exist

  • MOVIES ARE NOT CANON

  • its a alternate reality he still get the sword just a different way

  • ...aand woops! Thought I had another plothole in this relating to the androids/cell sage, but it looks like there isnt. Either that or it escaped me. Too bad you cant delete youtube comments anymore :-P . Nevermind! Although I am curious to know whatever happened to Pikon.

  • Trunks gets the sword of tapion, thus turning him into the adult trunks, who masters the sword. But, as older trunks, that's when the androids attack, killing everyone in that world except him and bulma, who builds him a time machine to go back in time and warn the past fighters about their fates so the future could change for the better, and then goku would be around to defeat the androids, etc..

  • How is this a mistake?This is just how kid trunks got HIS sword,future trunks has nothing to do with this.

  • Toriyama was smart enough to realize that, so its not like he made a mistake. Kid trunks getting the sword is just a symbolic way of comparing him to the future trunks, and demonstrating how is becoming the same warrior as the future trunks.

    This could also be the sword gt trunks uses.

    Where future trunks got his sword? Noone knows

  • that isnt the same sword.....

    

  • good point

  • The movies aren't what ifs and actually tie into the story, "try playing the budokai games to fill in all those plotholes" Trunks wasnt the only one with a time machine buddy.

  • @ariesmajor Yea he was. The time machine Cell had was Trunks'. The one Tapion had obviously wasn't. None of the movies fit into the story line. There aren't supposed to and why is it such a big deal. Just enjoy one of the best animes in the world and deal with it.

  • @22videogamer The moment the androids, and Goku's heart virus failed to kill off every powerful "Z" fighter, all of Trunks's predictions, and past, changed dramatically, likely including how he receives his sword. I'm sorry, but once time travel comes in to the mix, your theories become invalid.

  • No,Future Trunks' Sword is from Gohan,when Piccolo Trained Gohan,he gave him new Clothes and a Sword.

  • @gorance2000 That sword broke.

  • well the time line are now different as well as you can tell with the buu saga...in future trunks time line there is no buu but in this time line there is...when trunks came into the future the timelines were altered remember just like android 19 and 20 they weren't in future trunks time either.

  • if anything this is gt trunks's sword.

  • maybe in trunks time tapion tries to save him from the androids one day and dies in battle leaving trunks his weapon because he reminds him of his lil brother

  • Aside from the Dead Zone and the two tv specials History of Trunks and Bardock the Father of Goku. The rest of the dbz movies are impossible to fit into the tv series they are like you said. In their own universe so you canceled out the very question you asked.

  • @manoftomorrow79 I would think Bojack Unbound and Dragon Fist Assault could fit as well.

  • @justinburch21 I disagree with you un Bojack Goku clearly breaks the rule of crossing over into the mortal world. It was established in the fortune teller baba arc of the original dragonball that the dead. Are granted one full day to spend on earth they can't just simply cross over whenever they want to. In Dragon First kid trunks is given a sword identical to Future Trunks. But this would be impossible if they were trying to imply that because everyone is still alive in present trunks timeline.

  • @manoftomorrow79 ok, if we are gonna be nit picky. how would dead zone fit?

  • @justinburch21 Dead Zone could be set somewhere between the end of Dragonball.But before Raditz arrival the filler saga Garlic Jr even references Gohan beating Garlic Jr in DBZ.

  • @manoftomorrow79 Oh really. So I guess gohan knowing Piccolo and Krillin knowing Gohan doesn't offset anything. If we can be that nit picky, then NONE of the movies could fit in the storyline.

  • @manoftomorrow79 Piccolo would have been evil. It doesn't fit.

  • Hirudegarn could have never been reborn in Future Trunks timeline because in the normal timeline the Music Box could only be opened by the dragon balls and in Future Trunks time line they don't have any dragon balls since Piccolo is dead

  • Future trunks said himself that his timeline won't change just because he came back. Thats why he still had to kill cell and the androids when he went back. And explaining the sword. Idk? Maybe its just destiny for trunks to have one

  • The only few movies that can actually fit into the timeline is the First Broly Movie and Wrath of The Dragon. The First Broly Movie can be in the 10 days between Goku and Gohans training and the beginning of the Cell Games. The Wrath of the Dragon can be placed some time after Kid Buu's defeat

  • @Vegeto30294 your forgetting that during those 10 days between goku and gohans training they were super saiyan the entire time as apart of there training while in the broly movie there in there relaxed form and they act like cell doesnt even exist and im pretty sure if it was during the cell games cell would feel brolys power and probably would have fought him to test his newly perfect skills

  • @Vegeto30294 The Legendary Super Saiyan could not have fit there because then Goku and Vegeta would have been able to beat Broly with ease using Ascended Super Saiyan. I won't even mention Trunks' steriod usin ass.

  • this movie takes place after buu dies, it could exist. The sword may merely be an easter egg to future trunks, it may or may not have no connection to Future Trunks.

  • Yea cuz future trunks would know of ssj3 then i guess...

  • Dude your kinda dumb. That is not how Trunks got his sword. Tapion has to be released from the box with the Dragon Balls, Piccolo dies and Dende never becomes guardian in Trunks' Future. So I just found a plot hole within a plot hole

  • Actually this could be cannon because it is after the buu saga(SSJ3 Goku) and this is a different time line than Future Trunks Sage as been pointed out during the Android and Cell sagas so the idea can actually be place between the 5 year gap after the defeat of buu but before the party if you want to see it like that

  • The DBZ movies are a separate universe, Just like Cooler's Revenge where Goku transformed into a super saijin for the first time, and in Lord Slug where he transformed briefly for the first time again, or the Tree of Might where a doppleganger Saijin named Turlace inexplicably survived when supposedly only Napa, Vegeta, Raditz, and Goku were left. Or in the first Broly movie where two more saijins were alive (though they did explain how)

  • @lonewolfryan33 Or the second broly movie where he somehow survived being punched through the chest and into a comet, and was hurled across space in a hunk of ice to land on earth, or in the world's strongest where goku knows how to use Kaioken and spirit bomb, piccolo is alive, krillin and gohan are back on earth...but Goku is not a super saijin. The movies don't apply to the series even if there is overlapping instances like freiza or Bardok.

  • @lonewolfryan33 If you really want to point out mistakes, how about the fact that everyone keeps saying things like "I'm the strongest in the universe" or "No one can deflect that" or "No one is faster than me" when they damn well know that there are people stronger and faster than them. Burter boasts he is the fastest in the Universe but he knew freiza was way more powerful and faster, Freiza said he was the strongest in the universe even though he knew King Cold was even more powerful still.

  • @lonewolfryan33 I could go on...but I won't, lol

  • @lonewolfryan33 You are a dbz genius. Glad someone actually watches the show before boasting about how much they know.

  • i always thought future trunks sword was a normal one, because i saw a bunch of normal guys with similar swords

  • Not to mention that Goku went ss3. If could go to ss3 then that means he more than enough power to get rid of the androids.

  • @dragonfire3211 thanks :) yeah they say the movies arn't cannon to the show but it's kinda hard not to because there are a lot of times where the movies go into the show.

  • I never really put thought any into that, i forgot the movies aren't cannon, nice catch

  • @lilbang08 actully it could the gap between the cell saga and the buu saga is years so it is after the cell sega and right before or during the buu saga so it's hard to say

  • @22videogamer that's impossible.....because say its in future trunk's time line.....they would all be dead, they all died from the androids and goku from the heart virus when trunks was just a baby, and goten never existed......or it could be in the normal Z time line, but then it would have to be between cell and buu since goku gos SSJ 3.....but only problem with that is goku was dead that entire time....but is alive in the movie. it could be after buu also but goku was gone with Uub.

  • @22videogamer it cant be because goku is alive and can go ssj3 so it has to be after the buu saga

  • this couldnt be right by the cell games it was after the buu saga because they met videl in the buu saga and goten and trunks was born in the middle of the ending and begining of the buu saga in there and goku would be dead and gohan would be a little kid and never knew videl

  • @blackwingmaster48 well the movies interven into the show like this one so it's hard not for this to be a mistake

  • @daveyboi03 yeah all i knew it took place after the cell sega but my point was is all of them whould of been dead by the androids so there's no way for future trunks to get it. but maybe he got it from gohan but i never saw the sword after gohan used it that one time

  • @22videogamer he got it from future bullma (she made it)

  • @22videogamer did you forget that future trunks and kid trunks live in diffrent deminsionss thats why after what he did with them in the cell saga didnt affect his time zone

  • @22videogamer, the androids showed up six months after goku died of the heart virus, perhaps in between that and the time goku died Hirudegarn could have appeared and with the help of the Z fighters gohan defeated him and Tapion gave the sword to him. however, in later years gohan could have handed it down to Trunks when he felt his was old enough to handle it and that was how he got it.

  • @22videogamer it's a legit time paradox, cry me a river? -____-

    But seriously, it doesn't matter if the movies aren't canon, the movie is still a legit and credible source for two reasons. One, if fits PERFECTLY in the actual DBZ timeline (just like Bojack Unbound did and I guess Dead Zone, though dead zone kinda conflicts with the saiyan saga the filler in the anime series acknowledged the events in the movie). Two, GT acknowledges this movie, which Akira approves of too. We can't beat that

  • @windkai whats upsetting is hes taking the time to complain about this lol omg they made a mistake but i still enjoyed watching the show but im gonna nag about eye color or something dumb like that

  • This takes place some time after the Buu saga not the cell saga as you mentioned.

    Also not many people remember but this sword was orginally used by kid Gohangiven to him by Piccolo during the training for the saiyans, so that could be where future trunks got his sword and... well toei tried to make thier own take on where trunks got his sword... which doesn't make much sense as you pointed out.

  • I've noticed this before. Never thought of it as a mistake because the movies never tie in with the show.

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