Hey Nutn, what do you think of the newer Surefire G2X and 6PX models? More affordable at ~$100 and put out a nice beam. Surefire is also coming out with the P2X, a larger version of the 6PX with a 500 lumen output. Surefire may have but they're catching up fast (in the tactical market, not to the EDCers)
@DerRelienT surefire is known for fudging their lumen rating. I will never support Surefire for all the crap they pulled before all these good offerings; same goes for ruger.
oh..... hate the UI on that..... i like the tail cap click or bezel twists... don't like have a lose bezel if i can help it. my mini AA2 will change modes just by pushing on the head if the head it loose, seems like you could accidentally switch modes on the light if you bump it (or recoil)
there is no such thing as a surefire killer. people dont get surefire because they are unaffordable sometimes. if everyone could afford surefire i almost guarantee they would get it
I just ordered mine. I would of liked to buy a surefire but I'm poor and throwing $200 and up for a light is just not practical. This light will do the job just fine.
was on the way not too worry. So customer service is also rated 5 stars. This light is extremely bright and out shines my streamlight stinger twice over. The stinger being the handheld light of choice for most police today. I would highly recommend this light and the pfi dude store. As a police officer I require outstanding quality from my equipment and will update if any failures with the light occur as I am very hard on my equipment due to the job. Once again, thank you nutnfancy and PFI
(pfi dude store) ok my light came in today. ordered it September 3rd, arrived September 12th. Keep in mind labor day holiday. Shipping, packaging etc all good. The G5 is all that nutnfancy said it would be. My cytac charger and 18650 batteries also great. I also contacted pfi dude by phone because a charge for my order did not post on my bank account for a couple days after i placed my order. PFI emailed me about ten minutes after i left a voicemail a confirmation email stating that my order...
Just ordered mine from the pfi dude. Also ordered rechargeable batteries and battery docking station. Will let you know how long it takes to come in and anything else that may be helpful soon as it gets here
@JohnCTIV That is what I love and hate! Haha! True I would like it on constantly when I'm running and gunning at night but untill my friend challenge me in stealth at night man I really appreciate the dead man pressure no-click switching! I also blinded myself when I walked up to a barricade! I' running the SureFire Scout Light M620C and it really hurts when you reflect 200 SF lumens of a woodenboard into your eye at night !
Hey nutnfancy am I missing something with these lights. I mean I'm i gaining anything by going with some of the more expensive lights like say surefire? I must be missing something for the $200.00 difference in price.
@rustylinM4A2 Not much in terms of functionality, but surefires are made in USA, not China so if you want to support American made you gotta pay more.
@rustylinM4A2 Are peace of mind, SureFire renowned lifetime warranty says it all, they will also replace your weaponlights if you are able to break them ! no offence intended but I ain't going to support any other products except Americans made ones !
@JohnCTIV Um, the Mini 300a is about $345. A $50-75 Fenix/4Sevens + $10 mount + shim ($1?) saves you a bit more than $50. That's a savings of $250-$300.
@trp11078 If you own a SureFire you'll bet the differ! Try scratching any SureFire flashlight made of aluminum and has Hard Anodizing with this light! The G5 will chip off ! Try dunking any of the SureFire light from 2010 and so on, open it and just throw it into the water with this light open as well! This light would stop working but the SureFire would just light up! Until you own one, you'll know why they provide lifetime warranty !
I feel like this would be more suited for a shotgun / AR10 light because of the shock mounting and the Turbo 123 would be more suited for an AR15 Platform. I only wish that 4sevens would shock mount ether the Tactical or 123 Turbo. BTW which light is a better weapon light the Turbo 123 or the Tactical? The tactical is half the weight of the Turbo,
@lyklyk616 Zebralights unfortunately are made in China despite being designed in US. They told me that they do intend to shift production over to the US though...
Thanks for the review, it helped me decide on getting the g5. I am going to order it thru pfidudes website along with the remote pressure switch and an orange peel reflector to use around camp when i have the light off the rifle.
Ps: hope your dog is doing better, im sure she will be back out there with you guys in no time.
Great review! I love your vids. Your pou's make a lot of sense. I would really like to see some reviews of Fenix lights. Specifically weapon lights like the TK series(TK15, TK12, TK11, etc...). Their lights seem to trump 4sevens on efficiency but I would like to see you put them to the test.
@Gunrunner2014 it's only have half on 47's website. I ended up getting the G5, a Nite-Ize holster, orange peel reflector for $99 out the door. I figured a lot more light for not much more. Thanks for your input.
@sasquatch4liffee It's a 1" scope ring. He uses plastic from a notebook cover wrapped around it as a spacer. I use a thin computer mouse pad cut into strips for mine.
This is absolutely a Surefire killer. 4Sevens lights are fantastic. I've used them for both duty and off duty use. I get to spend my money on things that matter, like training.
Have the TA21 and simply love it. Fenix selector dial as on the ta21 and ta30 is just perfect and not to mention that second type of cool Nutn's always mentioning.
Just really blows the other mode selectors away imo and it actually makes these newer brighter lights a disappointment when they don't have that dial selector feature.
Awesome review. I'm really not a "torch head" or whatever you call 'em, but still, the information passed along here still kept me interested, and it always helps to throw in some desert Run-N-Gun footage. Im sporting my LD20 right now for EDC and with an SU-22CA on the way from PFI, I'll be in the market for a good, small light soonly. It wont be this big hoss obviously, but I agree, it's an awesome vehicle light
What kind of mount are you running on your 870? Also have you tried out one of the pressure switches that you checked out at Shot Show? I was thinking of running a G5 with pressure switch on my mossberg 500 as a home defense option and was looking for a high value mount
At Minute 12:45 Mr. Fancy mentions his dislike for the "exposed" rubber switch, and the reason is because it turns on when you put it in the form fitted pouch. Unfortunately (although he did mention it) he put in the incorrect way. If you put in the top side down not only will that NOT happen but the "form-fitted" pouch will actually hold it in place so even if the pouch unsnaps, the flashlight will stay in place. Also, If you want 'em we sell 'em as well as the 4Sevens S12's.
@ReNuTechSolutions If you read the annotation he states that he purposely placed the flashlight in upside down to show that in a tactical situation there's a good chance you will accidentally do that.
hi guy's got a question (TNPers chime in too ) i have a ruger 10/ 22 as my survival gun ( ikr not the best choice but its what i have ) and i need a weapon light for it . i have just a wood stock and have outfitted it with a MOE 1 in rail so i ken attach a mount . But what light too go with . Fenix pd 30 ? 4 S quark turbo ? Fenix LD10 ? i just cant make up my mind . it needs to be light and cheap. Help Please. thanks litlefoot12.
Great review. You were putting the light in the holster upside down though. The holster is designed to hold the torch in place even when the flap is unclipped. Works well in my opinion. Anyways, stay cool! :)
Once again Nutn' awesome reveiw of an outstanding Product!, Surefire are just a rip off for what u get esp when u compaire them with other High Value products, 4sevens are just rocking the lighting world atm and i think they will for a long time to come, Thanks Nutn for the reveiw and PFI for a trustworthy and fair priced place to purchase! best wishes to u and urs bro, ROCK ON TNP
WOW that was a lot of info in 35 minutes or I ate too many paint chips as a child. I think you are getting better at your TT reviews! I feel like I owe you something.
Sorry to fire this question if you answered it already, but I got slightly confused. Do you favor rechargable or disposable batts? Have always struggled to find rechargeables that compare sizably with disposables after a few charges.
@Slash28ACR There's a specific rechargeable batt. called a lithium-ion (lion), the 4sevens website will tell you exactly which one, that has greatly extended batt. life over CR123As for the G5. The G5 was specifically designed to use them. Same for some of the Fenix TK lights. For AA lights, Nutn has said he uses metal hydride rechargeables usually, but lithium disposables in the field.
i dont like the the pictures of the product just for their own sake, i like them in the intro because your showing parts of the review process. what the product went through, its performance etc. yeah i could definitely find better pics of the product somwhere else. . . if that is what i wanted
4sevens used to be and still is a distributor now they make their own lights, and recently the owner of 4sevens (David Chow) Has become 1 of the CEO's of Olight.
So 4sevens is a distributor of other flashlight makes, with their own products. They announced that they will share ideas but keep Olights and 4sevens as separate companies with separate lights.
I have bben watching TNP for the last few years. I am no longer a Surefire fan. Back in the day (202 and 2003) when I was at the academy Surefire was it. That and Streamlight. Ever since I have been watching TNP I have come to the conclution, Surefire if pricey and there are way better lights out there. Most of the lights on TNP have been brighter, they do more and half the price of a surefire. Thanks for the vids.
Not that sexy, but I'd love to see a review of the different battery brands and styles, AA vs. CR123 vs. proprietary, etc. Rechargeable vs. Lithium disposable etc. Hopefully the review could argue the various strengths; function, dependability, availability, cost.
alright dont rattle me if im totally wrong but I've always just kind of thought that if your using a light in a combat situation or any situation involving a fire fight between an opponent, wouldnt using a light just give away your position and make a target more than anything???
damn, i've had my surefire 6p LED for a year now and i love mine. i thought that was bright. yeah surefire may be made in the USA, guarantee quality, have great waranty but man......i look at the maelstrom......500 lumens....surefire has got to step up their game.
ill stay with my surefires... just intrisic i guess. also the new 'x' line is very affordable. 200 lumens 55 bucks, surefire warranty and dependability.
Wow, man! Google gave you $1000 to spend at B&H?! Great for you! Happy for you and I'm extremely jealous as I want a new camera from them =/ What Sony did you get?
I don't want to have to mess with multiple clicks or having to twist stuff to operate a weapon light. I want simple operation and diehard reliability in a weapon light.
Before I became 4Sevens user, I did look at Surefires but like Nutn has said, Surefire is heavily over-priced and when you compare Surefire lights to 4Sevens' on brightness, multi-modes, runtimes, size and weight, 4Sevens is clearly the winner. People can buy whatever lights they want but until Surefires come standard with multimodes, longer runtimes, brighter LEDs and available with memorized modes, people will continue buying 4Sevens' lights.
@ratgurk You are correct sir. You can just keep the G5 with tightened bezel and run it it full bright and it will rock. You need more versatility? You got that too.
Awesome review. You hit a lot of details. For me, as a not very demanding user, I would go with the Quark 123^2 Turbo for the smaller size and weight. But for someone who demands a little more from their light, the Maelstrom could be the way to go.
@duragezic Thanks and I still love that Quark 123 Turbo. I battle "the it's not new therefore it's no longer good" syndrome. For 50 yds, the 123 Turbo rules because of its compactness and size.
Looks like it will get turned on when you don't want it to with that rear clicky sticking out so far and there is no QD tape switch. I like options on a weapon lamp, so I'll stick with my surefire.
@slayergut I probably will sometime...I try to give all mfrs a fair exposure it the kit is good. However their pricing better come in line with market realities. Surefire has been overcharging the tactical community a long time.
hmm, was going to get a maelstrom, but damn. After seeing it on an actual gun, it's freaken huge. I might have to go with something else instead. Probably just gonna go with a surefire.
uggg, I'm so torn between the Maelstrom G5 and the Quarks 123^2 Turbo.
Watched both reviews but still can't decide. I'm looking for it to be an all around light: Weapon mountable, belt carry sheath, decent throw and flood, and bag light.
Maelstrom G5 is a bit big for belt carry but has more throw and a little more flood with textured reflector, weapon mountable, etc.
Turbo 123^2 is smaller for belt carry, little harder to weapon mount, not as much throw. More flood?
@EveryDayCarry14 I just got the Quark 123^2 Turbo Dude and its nothing short of awesome. Plenty of throw in my opinion for a weapon POU. As a weapon light I give the Turbo a huge thumbs up(even bigger for carry). Personally I like it better compared to the malestrom G5 (which I would be glad to have as well) but for me lighter is better plus its half the cost. If your worried about mounting try a very inexpensive V-Tac light mount (it comes with an optional spacer for smaller diameter lights).
Thanks for all your videos and your time putting them together. In reference to your comment about the tailcap, the maelstrom, the turbo and the tactical series, they all have the switch that sticks out but not the regular quark series. I like them both, but it's easier to turn the light on when I'm wearing gloves with the tactical and the maelstrom and not the regular quarks. thanks.
I'm amazed at how the battery market has exploded recently, it seems like for the longest time you were limited to the AA, AAA, 9v D and C cells, then just recently we have had this massive surge it Battery Formula's and sizes come out of nowhere... thanks for the great Video Nutn, as always an informative and useful bit of Information.
@Myrmidon717 You got better....video! There are other resources out there if you really want detailed screen shots. I am not interested in duplicating those and they will bore most TNPrs big time.
If you want to have a dedicated pinpoint 100 yards weapon light you should try a recoil light (works with a rear reflector) Have a Sipik SK-36 or an Ultrafire UF-007 (008). They are absolute trowers they are cheap and work with 18650 Li-ions
Dude, been a big fan for 2 years now, but ya can't exactly say "Surefire Killer" if you don't even test ANY Surefire against it. Also wouldn't put this in the category of the SF M600 b/c it's an actual purpose-built weaponlight. I see this as being more comparable to the new Surefire G2X Tactical, which is a 200 lumen, 4.4oz, 2hr runtime light that's only $55 & makes a very decent weaponlight, too. I'd really like you to test/review the G2X Tactical or the $69 SF "6PX Tactical" to be fair.
@RetreatHell YES!! I was just going to post something very similar to what you said! Nutnfancy, I too enjoy watching your videos very much. You're responsible for my lack of funds in the bank. I don't really think it's fair to discard surefire lights if you have not tested the newer versions. I really wish you would have paid a visit to the Surefire booth and asked all your questions about why surefire is the way it is.
Enjoyed the vid! I too love my Maelstrom G5 S2. Just got is yesterday :D
@RetreatHell It's a SureFire killer for value and performance. And just b. you haven't seen vids on them, don't assume I don't have experience with Surefire experience. They are good lights and they get better each year but the data on the M600 stands; how is the M600 better? I am skeptical. The G2X stands a closer look and agreed.
@nutnfancy (Part 4 Sorry about long reply) Tell you what, I'll let you borrow my M300 & you can T&E it for yourself if you'd like. No review necessary, no strings attached whatsoever. I just wanna personally know how you like it & try to change your mind about buying SF lights. Meanwhile, you ship me YOUR G5 light & I'll run it on my guns & see if you can change MY mind about 4Sevens. I'll even make a video (with documentation) eating my words if I actually like it. PM me if interested, bro.
@RetreatHell This would be awesome to see nutnfancy.... RetreatHell does a lot of low light shooting and I know he would provide am honest unbiased opinion on the light. I currently run a G2L, and X200/300 weapon lights on my carbines and would love to have a high value option available that would fill me with the same confidence that Surefire does.
@nutnfancy(Part 3) I personally own 7 ARs & only 3 Surefires for them. I'm not about to go out & buy one for every gun. Screw that! I absolutely HATE paying so much money for them, but I'm 100% confident they'll turn on every single time I press the tail-cap or pressure pad, regardless of environment , adverse conditions, or shock from being mounted on any weapon.But I'd totally use the G5 & other 4Sevens lights for many other POUs, like spare lights around the house for power outages, car, etc
@nutnfancy(Part 2) The extremely intense blast from the muzzle brake 1 inch away from the Surefire M300's head, over & over again for thousands of rounds, will eventually kill almost every light out there. I've personally experienced it with a friend's .308 battle rifle (light brand unknown) The Surefire weaponlights can take that kind of abuse b/c they're simply built better than any other light out there today. However they are NOT needed for every weapon application. It's overkill sometimes.
@nutnfancy (Part 1 of reply) The M600 is a dedicated weaponlight, which makes all the difference. The ONLY downside is price, but I for one "highly value" my life more than anything (zing! sorry, couldn't resist bro;) ). The M600 has been proven many times over on every type of weapon, with millions & millions of rounds fired altogether. I use 2 M300s (the exact same mini version b/c of size & weight) & 1 X300 on my guns. I've got SBRs with the SF light heads right next to the muzzle brakes.
Nobody I have ever trained with or under the instruction of at Front sight, or Suarez International would EVER recommend or be caught dead with a 350 lumen weapon-light let alone 500! If you get into a CQB situation with that lumen rating, you just F**ked yourself big-time. So much of the light is thrown back at the shooter that not only does it kill your night vision, but also endangers the shooter from massive light bouncing back off targets and obstacles and into the shooters eyes. No thanks
@MARINE1146 That is why you have different light output modes. CQB mission= lower setting, long distance engagement=turbo mode....best of both worlds.
@MARINE1146 Maybe you missed the fact this light is multi-mode and user definable in illumination levels AND the primary POU designated here is 100 yd shooting on obscure targets as shown.
Love it! Just got mine 3 days ago, Im at how great the beam is super amazed at how great the beam and brightest light i have ever owned!!!!! Go buy yours today!
This light might be really good for me. I work at a movie theatre (cleaning crew) and this flash light looks perfect for my needs...and maybe those Fenix flashlights too.
SUREFIRE has been taking advantage of the ill-informed consumer for too many years with sturdy but average and way-over-priced products. "made in the USA" only goes so far, but it doesn't make surefire competetive.
@jetpowered1 For sure. For a year or so I was on the fence about getting a surefire nitrolon (or whatever it is-- polymer) g2, but only because I thought it was cool. In terms of function it's seriously pointless at this point. They use only CR123 cells and lights from Fenix and 4sevens dominate them in that category. Many surefire lights don't have glass lenses, multiple outputs, etc. and are twice to 4 times as expensive... NO THANKS lol... They are becoming irrelevant like Maglite lol...
Isn't time the "surefire killer". I have several surefires and they all failed. Sure they repaired them free but it took a couple weeks.
PauliR1159 13 hours ago
Huge fan. Keep it real politics free, and credible! I love it!
Baysailor84 1 week ago
L2P SE Bitches! 900ish tested lumens at max.
jgbelmont 1 week ago
Do these work on taming sheep?
ductapewireandglue 1 week ago
You are by far the MOST wordy motherfucker on youtube! Holy crap!!
joker42179 3 weeks ago
@joker42179 quality reviews take time. get over it or leave.
CPLBSS88 1 week ago
Hey Nutn, what do you think of the newer Surefire G2X and 6PX models? More affordable at ~$100 and put out a nice beam. Surefire is also coming out with the P2X, a larger version of the 6PX with a 500 lumen output. Surefire may have but they're catching up fast (in the tactical market, not to the EDCers)
DerRelienT 1 month ago
@DerRelienT surefire is known for fudging their lumen rating. I will never support Surefire for all the crap they pulled before all these good offerings; same goes for ruger.
CPLBSS88 1 week ago
You may have answered this already, what what mounting setup do you have on that 870?
Miroku1226 1 month ago
@Miroku1226 A scope ring onto a picatinny rail.
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Ur supposed to put the head in first
ParkerAlen213 2 months ago
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That maelstrom is tough.
563TwujHuj545 2 months ago
oh..... hate the UI on that..... i like the tail cap click or bezel twists... don't like have a lose bezel if i can help it. my mini AA2 will change modes just by pushing on the head if the head it loose, seems like you could accidentally switch modes on the light if you bump it (or recoil)
jonkari33 2 months ago
what about the CR123A 2 turbo X that thing is BAD ASS
meuberepic 4 months ago
I think this a pretty good light. However, in this category I prefer the Fenix tk21 which is an awesome light.
Small, lightweight, waterproof, dependable, and bright at 468 lm, plus a good, decent throw.
billace90 4 months ago
there is no such thing as a surefire killer. people dont get surefire because they are unaffordable sometimes. if everyone could afford surefire i almost guarantee they would get it
joeratti 4 months ago
@joeratti It's not just that, it's also that they are way behind on technology.
ehandkz 1 month ago
@joeratti me personally would get the better performing light for cheaper. ;)
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I just ordered mine. I would of liked to buy a surefire but I'm poor and throwing $200 and up for a light is just not practical. This light will do the job just fine.
theshogun77 5 months ago
is this vid called surefire killer because the maelstrom g5 kills all surefire lights?
TheTacticalsurvivor 5 months ago
was on the way not too worry. So customer service is also rated 5 stars. This light is extremely bright and out shines my streamlight stinger twice over. The stinger being the handheld light of choice for most police today. I would highly recommend this light and the pfi dude store. As a police officer I require outstanding quality from my equipment and will update if any failures with the light occur as I am very hard on my equipment due to the job. Once again, thank you nutnfancy and PFI
cmraycmray 5 months ago
(pfi dude store) ok my light came in today. ordered it September 3rd, arrived September 12th. Keep in mind labor day holiday. Shipping, packaging etc all good. The G5 is all that nutnfancy said it would be. My cytac charger and 18650 batteries also great. I also contacted pfi dude by phone because a charge for my order did not post on my bank account for a couple days after i placed my order. PFI emailed me about ten minutes after i left a voicemail a confirmation email stating that my order...
cmraycmray 5 months ago
That maelstrom is tough.
SuperRip7 5 months ago
Just ordered mine from the pfi dude. Also ordered rechargeable batteries and battery docking station. Will let you know how long it takes to come in and anything else that may be helpful soon as it gets here
cmraycmray 5 months ago
@JohnCTIV That is what I love and hate! Haha! True I would like it on constantly when I'm running and gunning at night but untill my friend challenge me in stealth at night man I really appreciate the dead man pressure no-click switching! I also blinded myself when I walked up to a barricade! I' running the SureFire Scout Light M620C and it really hurts when you reflect 200 SF lumens of a woodenboard into your eye at night !
lyklyk616 6 months ago
when you mount that to your shot gun what are you useing?
kyledanger45 6 months ago
Hey nutnfancy am I missing something with these lights. I mean I'm i gaining anything by going with some of the more expensive lights like say surefire? I must be missing something for the $200.00 difference in price.
rustylinM4A2 6 months ago
@rustylinM4A2 Not much in terms of functionality, but surefires are made in USA, not China so if you want to support American made you gotta pay more.
jiangyifu 6 months ago
@jiangyifu No to say but SureFire owns in terms of quality and their UIs are practical !
lyklyk616 6 months ago
@rustylinM4A2 Are peace of mind, SureFire renowned lifetime warranty says it all, they will also replace your weaponlights if you are able to break them ! no offence intended but I ain't going to support any other products except Americans made ones !
lyklyk616 6 months ago
@JohnCTIV Um, the Mini 300a is about $345. A $50-75 Fenix/4Sevens + $10 mount + shim ($1?) saves you a bit more than $50. That's a savings of $250-$300.
FTingB 6 months ago
Hey, nutnfancy, what kind of mount did you use on a shotgun to mount the Maelstrom G5?
WarIsNeverPretty 7 months ago
This light far exceeded my expectations, nutnfancy really is spot on, this light rivals surefire any day.
trp11078 7 months ago
@trp11078 If you own a SureFire you'll bet the differ! Try scratching any SureFire flashlight made of aluminum and has Hard Anodizing with this light! The G5 will chip off ! Try dunking any of the SureFire light from 2010 and so on, open it and just throw it into the water with this light open as well! This light would stop working but the SureFire would just light up! Until you own one, you'll know why they provide lifetime warranty !
lyklyk616 6 months ago
buying new gear? go on youtube and type in nutnfancy and whatever you want to buy lol.
SpringFigsXD89 7 months ago
I feel like this would be more suited for a shotgun / AR10 light because of the shock mounting and the Turbo 123 would be more suited for an AR15 Platform. I only wish that 4sevens would shock mount ether the Tactical or 123 Turbo. BTW which light is a better weapon light the Turbo 123 or the Tactical? The tactical is half the weight of the Turbo,
staleyh1 7 months ago
Fenix TK21 vs TK15? Awesome lights.
ggod408 7 months ago
Does anyone know if the Pressure Switch for the Maelstrom G5 works with the Quark mini 123?
Chevenitsu 8 months ago
hey nutnfancy what is your opinion about zebralights???
DakotaVu 8 months ago
@DakotaVu For me, Zebralights are perfect for EDC(every-day-carry) and the UI is great! One awesome American made flashlight !
lyklyk616 6 months ago
@lyklyk616 Zebralights unfortunately are made in China despite being designed in US. They told me that they do intend to shift production over to the US though...
yifuj 5 months ago
He keeps saying 123 turbo when it is actually 123 squared turbo. Just for any confused out there.
gaozhi2007 9 months ago
Love the deep carry pocket clip on this light it works nicely! =) Love the fact your can run the rechargeable 18650's too!
james27092709 9 months ago
Love my Fenix LD10 & LD20. Just ordered another LD10
pr4runner 9 months ago
Thanks for the review, it helped me decide on getting the g5. I am going to order it thru pfidudes website along with the remote pressure switch and an orange peel reflector to use around camp when i have the light off the rifle.
Ps: hope your dog is doing better, im sure she will be back out there with you guys in no time.
generalpetres 10 months ago
Great review! I love your vids. Your pou's make a lot of sense. I would really like to see some reviews of Fenix lights. Specifically weapon lights like the TK series(TK15, TK12, TK11, etc...). Their lights seem to trump 4sevens on efficiency but I would like to see you put them to the test.
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msmit105 11 months ago
Great review. So glad you aren't on of those surefire guys!
chobbit1lc 1 year ago
Shotgun home defense light:
Suggestions?
andros800 1 year ago
@Gunrunner2014 it's only have half on 47's website. I ended up getting the G5, a Nite-Ize holster, orange peel reflector for $99 out the door. I figured a lot more light for not much more. Thanks for your input.
EveryDayCarry14 1 year ago
Hey Nutn! Have you ever done reviews of good lights that don't cost quite so much?
mman19735600 1 year ago
Finally, I recently bought this light and I LOVE IT!!! Glad to see you added it to your arsenal.
SNYPER94KHG 1 year ago
Does 4Sevens make a strike bezel for the Quark 123 Turbo?
Tapasjii 1 year ago
hey nutn, i may have missed it in one of your other vids but what kind of mount do you use to put that flashlight on your shotgun?
sasquatch4liffee 1 year ago
@sasquatch4liffee It's a 1" scope ring. He uses plastic from a notebook cover wrapped around it as a spacer. I use a thin computer mouse pad cut into strips for mine.
Deep13Deep13Deep13 1 year ago
@Deep13Deep13Deep13 i got that part. i was wondering what kind of mount the ring attaches to on the gun
sasquatch4liffee 1 year ago
@sasquatch4liffee I think he just screws a short Picatinny mount to the side of the fore end.
Deep13Deep13Deep13 11 months ago
Thats awesome Google/Youtube hooked you up so you could get some night vision capabilities! I'm stoked to see more of that.
And nice review of the light. I love my 4sevens preon and G5!
Delorean2867 1 year ago
0:59 Keepin' DuraCoat in business. LOL awesome.
stopstickers 1 year ago
is there really that big of a difference between whacking someone with a strike bezel, or with a regular bezel?
Whisper6911 1 year ago
Hey Nutnfancy, have you ever used old bicycle tubes to shim equipment. You can cut old tubes and, when compressed, holds tight.
frontdesk123 1 year ago
what is the probe mode used for? Signaling and blinding?
MATAtheFIRST 1 year ago
Glad to see a camera for night time shoots.
SHORTREAPER117 1 year ago
Yeahhhhh.... Rockin all over.................
Blechi 1 year ago
Seems like Surefire fans aren't used to more than two modes LOL.
roophies 1 year ago 2
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roophies 1 year ago
This is absolutely a Surefire killer. 4Sevens lights are fantastic. I've used them for both duty and off duty use. I get to spend my money on things that matter, like training.
opticalserenity 1 year ago
been waiting for this one
ridenhour1 1 year ago
Have the TA21 and simply love it. Fenix selector dial as on the ta21 and ta30 is just perfect and not to mention that second type of cool Nutn's always mentioning.
Just really blows the other mode selectors away imo and it actually makes these newer brighter lights a disappointment when they don't have that dial selector feature.
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yaris5150 1 year ago
0:48 Looks like Sam Fisher from Splinter Cell!!!!!!
Hostilenemy 1 year ago
Awesome review. I'm really not a "torch head" or whatever you call 'em, but still, the information passed along here still kept me interested, and it always helps to throw in some desert Run-N-Gun footage. Im sporting my LD20 right now for EDC and with an SU-22CA on the way from PFI, I'll be in the market for a good, small light soonly. It wont be this big hoss obviously, but I agree, it's an awesome vehicle light
Gtrsnax 1 year ago
What kind of mount are you running on your 870? Also have you tried out one of the pressure switches that you checked out at Shot Show? I was thinking of running a G5 with pressure switch on my mossberg 500 as a home defense option and was looking for a high value mount
bigmurph28 1 year ago
what scope are you running on the kel-tec su-16ca?
suckmysammich 1 year ago
@0:44 what rifle is that?
rotorleopard 1 year ago
@rotorleopard it's the kel-tec su-16ca model
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UseAndGo 1 year ago
At Minute 12:45 Mr. Fancy mentions his dislike for the "exposed" rubber switch, and the reason is because it turns on when you put it in the form fitted pouch. Unfortunately (although he did mention it) he put in the incorrect way. If you put in the top side down not only will that NOT happen but the "form-fitted" pouch will actually hold it in place so even if the pouch unsnaps, the flashlight will stay in place. Also, If you want 'em we sell 'em as well as the 4Sevens S12's.
ReNuTechSolutions 1 year ago
@ReNuTechSolutions If you read the annotation he states that he purposely placed the flashlight in upside down to show that in a tactical situation there's a good chance you will accidentally do that.
bigmurph28 1 year ago
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ReNuTechSolutions 1 year ago
@bigmurph28:
That's why I DID say "(although he did mention it)". I understand that can happen...
ReNuTechSolutions 1 year ago
hi guy's got a question (TNPers chime in too ) i have a ruger 10/ 22 as my survival gun ( ikr not the best choice but its what i have ) and i need a weapon light for it . i have just a wood stock and have outfitted it with a MOE 1 in rail so i ken attach a mount . But what light too go with . Fenix pd 30 ? 4 S quark turbo ? Fenix LD10 ? i just cant make up my mind . it needs to be light and cheap. Help Please. thanks litlefoot12.
LitleFoot12 1 year ago
@LitleFoot12 Try the Streamlight TLR-3. $80, tough, bright, weighs almost nothing.
Deep13Deep13Deep13 1 year ago
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ReNuTechSolutions 1 year ago
I'll stick to my $10 300 lumen cree light from ebay
grandpacomments 1 year ago
Great review. You were putting the light in the holster upside down though. The holster is designed to hold the torch in place even when the flap is unclipped. Works well in my opinion. Anyways, stay cool! :)
MountainPsy 1 year ago
Once again Nutn' awesome reveiw of an outstanding Product!, Surefire are just a rip off for what u get esp when u compaire them with other High Value products, 4sevens are just rocking the lighting world atm and i think they will for a long time to come, Thanks Nutn for the reveiw and PFI for a trustworthy and fair priced place to purchase! best wishes to u and urs bro, ROCK ON TNP
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tom24ak 1 year ago
Hey nutnfancy,
would the perfect light also throw 1mile?!?!
lolol
social3ngin33rin 1 year ago
fenix pd31 r5 304 lumens for 69 bucks, hey nutn can u check it out
cwskin69 1 year ago
Appreciate your reviews Nutn! I too was a Surefire junkie not knowing any other quality lights could compete
dsandersmd 1 year ago
WOW that was a lot of info in 35 minutes or I ate too many paint chips as a child. I think you are getting better at your TT reviews! I feel like I owe you something.
Pallooka51 1 year ago
Just ordered one up from pFI dude can't wait - car house pou for me
kenshomi2 1 year ago
What product did you use to mount the G5 to your Remington 870 in the shotgun test?
robertmpierce1 1 year ago
Awesome video as usual, keep up the goodwork dude
TMHoncrack102 1 year ago
Love the G5 the throw on this light is unreal best I've seen
stispartan10 1 year ago
Sorry to fire this question if you answered it already, but I got slightly confused. Do you favor rechargable or disposable batts? Have always struggled to find rechargeables that compare sizably with disposables after a few charges.
Slash28ACR 1 year ago
@Slash28ACR There's a specific rechargeable batt. called a lithium-ion (lion), the 4sevens website will tell you exactly which one, that has greatly extended batt. life over CR123As for the G5. The G5 was specifically designed to use them. Same for some of the Fenix TK lights. For AA lights, Nutn has said he uses metal hydride rechargeables usually, but lithium disposables in the field.
Deep13Deep13Deep13 1 year ago
@Deep13Deep13Deep13 Thanks a lot man, I appreciate it!
Slash28ACR 11 months ago
Anyone happen to know what type of rail he's got on that Kel-Tec Rifle on the table?
termpred 1 year ago
I thought I found the perfect weapon light Surefire M3000A mini scout light then I looked at the price and passed out
machinegun911 1 year ago
You got a $1000.00 bucks from Google!!! That's awesome.
I can't think of anyone who deserves it more.
divotit 1 year ago
Nutnfancy, great review.
How much candela (Peak beam intensity)? Can't find it online anywhere.
DrDajom 1 year ago
@nutnfancy
i dont like the the pictures of the product just for their own sake, i like them in the intro because your showing parts of the review process. what the product went through, its performance etc. yeah i could definitely find better pics of the product somwhere else. . . if that is what i wanted
Myrmidon717 1 year ago
'Bout time you got a kick back from Youtube! Go TNP!
MadtactiX 1 year ago
hi what about the new 4 sevens 123x turbo ??????
redeyeboy100 1 year ago
Great vid. Im still new to these, but thanks to you I keep learning!
SnakeStrike77 1 year ago
Quick question, does 4 Seven own Fenex Lights? Just asking because on the 4 Seven web site the sell Fenex lights and several different brands. Thanks
davesantos1 1 year ago
@davesantos1
4sevens used to be and still is a distributor now they make their own lights, and recently the owner of 4sevens (David Chow) Has become 1 of the CEO's of Olight.
So 4sevens is a distributor of other flashlight makes, with their own products. They announced that they will share ideas but keep Olights and 4sevens as separate companies with separate lights.
OfficerSheepDog 1 year ago
I have bben watching TNP for the last few years. I am no longer a Surefire fan. Back in the day (202 and 2003) when I was at the academy Surefire was it. That and Streamlight. Ever since I have been watching TNP I have come to the conclution, Surefire if pricey and there are way better lights out there. Most of the lights on TNP have been brighter, they do more and half the price of a surefire. Thanks for the vids.
davesantos1 1 year ago
Not that sexy, but I'd love to see a review of the different battery brands and styles, AA vs. CR123 vs. proprietary, etc. Rechargeable vs. Lithium disposable etc. Hopefully the review could argue the various strengths; function, dependability, availability, cost.
BenJett 1 year ago
alright dont rattle me if im totally wrong but I've always just kind of thought that if your using a light in a combat situation or any situation involving a fire fight between an opponent, wouldnt using a light just give away your position and make a target more than anything???
drewsterm7 1 year ago
Rockin the review Nutn! thank you!
YochananT 1 year ago
damn, i've had my surefire 6p LED for a year now and i love mine. i thought that was bright. yeah surefire may be made in the USA, guarantee quality, have great waranty but man......i look at the maelstrom......500 lumens....surefire has got to step up their game.
brendy1995 1 year ago
ill stay with my surefires... just intrisic i guess. also the new 'x' line is very affordable. 200 lumens 55 bucks, surefire warranty and dependability.
blackhatch46 1 year ago
weapon light should be:
single cell
light weight
lithium primary or non-protected rechargeable.
single mode on off with forward clicky on the tailcap.
no battery saving modes (maybe even direct drive)
therealcarbine15 1 year ago
Wow, man! Google gave you $1000 to spend at B&H?! Great for you! Happy for you and I'm extremely jealous as I want a new camera from them =/ What Sony did you get?
EverythingisFire 1 year ago
I don't want to have to mess with multiple clicks or having to twist stuff to operate a weapon light. I want simple operation and diehard reliability in a weapon light.
Dumak2 1 year ago
Before I became 4Sevens user, I did look at Surefires but like Nutn has said, Surefire is heavily over-priced and when you compare Surefire lights to 4Sevens' on brightness, multi-modes, runtimes, size and weight, 4Sevens is clearly the winner. People can buy whatever lights they want but until Surefires come standard with multimodes, longer runtimes, brighter LEDs and available with memorized modes, people will continue buying 4Sevens' lights.
ratgurk 1 year ago
@ratgurk You are correct sir. You can just keep the G5 with tightened bezel and run it it full bright and it will rock. You need more versatility? You got that too.
nutnfancy 1 year ago
Thank You Google!!!
armyqpzm 1 year ago
Awesome review. You hit a lot of details. For me, as a not very demanding user, I would go with the Quark 123^2 Turbo for the smaller size and weight. But for someone who demands a little more from their light, the Maelstrom could be the way to go.
duragezic 1 year ago
@duragezic Thanks and I still love that Quark 123 Turbo. I battle "the it's not new therefore it's no longer good" syndrome. For 50 yds, the 123 Turbo rules because of its compactness and size.
nutnfancy 1 year ago
Looks like it will get turned on when you don't want it to with that rear clicky sticking out so far and there is no QD tape switch. I like options on a weapon lamp, so I'll stick with my surefire.
agreg24 1 year ago
@agreg24 they have two types of switches on there website
musclecarfreek04 1 year ago
Nutn, please do check out the new Surefire G2X series.Would be interesting to see your take on that surefire's 'budget' line.
slayergut 1 year ago
@slayergut I probably will sometime...I try to give all mfrs a fair exposure it the kit is good. However their pricing better come in line with market realities. Surefire has been overcharging the tactical community a long time.
nutnfancy 1 year ago
My Holster Got torn up after a couple days use on my duty belt, not a fan of the Holster
gift3rs 1 year ago
hmm, was going to get a maelstrom, but damn. After seeing it on an actual gun, it's freaken huge. I might have to go with something else instead. Probably just gonna go with a surefire.
808Arsenal 1 year ago
uggg, I'm so torn between the Maelstrom G5 and the Quarks 123^2 Turbo.
Watched both reviews but still can't decide. I'm looking for it to be an all around light: Weapon mountable, belt carry sheath, decent throw and flood, and bag light.
Maelstrom G5 is a bit big for belt carry but has more throw and a little more flood with textured reflector, weapon mountable, etc.
Turbo 123^2 is smaller for belt carry, little harder to weapon mount, not as much throw. More flood?
Any suggestions please!?
EveryDayCarry14 1 year ago
@EveryDayCarry14 I have nothing more than these thorough vids to offer you my friend...good luck!
nutnfancy 1 year ago
@EveryDayCarry14 I just got the Quark 123^2 Turbo Dude and its nothing short of awesome. Plenty of throw in my opinion for a weapon POU. As a weapon light I give the Turbo a huge thumbs up(even bigger for carry). Personally I like it better compared to the malestrom G5 (which I would be glad to have as well) but for me lighter is better plus its half the cost. If your worried about mounting try a very inexpensive V-Tac light mount (it comes with an optional spacer for smaller diameter lights).
Gunrunner2014 1 year ago
@EveryDayCarry14 Which is more important? Weight or versatility?
Deep13Deep13Deep13 1 year ago
Thanks for all your videos and your time putting them together. In reference to your comment about the tailcap, the maelstrom, the turbo and the tactical series, they all have the switch that sticks out but not the regular quark series. I like them both, but it's easier to turn the light on when I'm wearing gloves with the tactical and the maelstrom and not the regular quarks. thanks.
jccp10 1 year ago
I'm amazed at how the battery market has exploded recently, it seems like for the longest time you were limited to the AA, AAA, 9v D and C cells, then just recently we have had this massive surge it Battery Formula's and sizes come out of nowhere... thanks for the great Video Nutn, as always an informative and useful bit of Information.
TjinTur 1 year ago 3
Wish I had a big desert I could train at night in...
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NEWCLEARDAYS 1 year ago
I do not like any weapon light. Gives away your position.
Carnerd101 1 year ago
@Carnerd101 Then try an inferred light. Only visible via night vision.
ApocalypticMike 1 year ago
@Carnerd101 i'd much rather be able to see the target...
PlanBskate4444 1 year ago
i like the screen shots of the product in action in the intro
Myrmidon717 1 year ago
@Myrmidon717 You got better....video! There are other resources out there if you really want detailed screen shots. I am not interested in duplicating those and they will bore most TNPrs big time.
nutnfancy 1 year ago
If you want to have a dedicated pinpoint 100 yards weapon light you should try a recoil light (works with a rear reflector) Have a Sipik SK-36 or an Ultrafire UF-007 (008). They are absolute trowers they are cheap and work with 18650 Li-ions
gimepepe 1 year ago
Dude, been a big fan for 2 years now, but ya can't exactly say "Surefire Killer" if you don't even test ANY Surefire against it. Also wouldn't put this in the category of the SF M600 b/c it's an actual purpose-built weaponlight. I see this as being more comparable to the new Surefire G2X Tactical, which is a 200 lumen, 4.4oz, 2hr runtime light that's only $55 & makes a very decent weaponlight, too. I'd really like you to test/review the G2X Tactical or the $69 SF "6PX Tactical" to be fair.
S/F
RetreatHell 1 year ago
@RetreatHell YES!! I was just going to post something very similar to what you said! Nutnfancy, I too enjoy watching your videos very much. You're responsible for my lack of funds in the bank. I don't really think it's fair to discard surefire lights if you have not tested the newer versions. I really wish you would have paid a visit to the Surefire booth and asked all your questions about why surefire is the way it is.
Enjoyed the vid! I too love my Maelstrom G5 S2. Just got is yesterday :D
madx312 1 year ago
@RetreatHell It's a SureFire killer for value and performance. And just b. you haven't seen vids on them, don't assume I don't have experience with Surefire experience. They are good lights and they get better each year but the data on the M600 stands; how is the M600 better? I am skeptical. The G2X stands a closer look and agreed.
nutnfancy 1 year ago
@nutnfancy (Part 4 Sorry about long reply) Tell you what, I'll let you borrow my M300 & you can T&E it for yourself if you'd like. No review necessary, no strings attached whatsoever. I just wanna personally know how you like it & try to change your mind about buying SF lights. Meanwhile, you ship me YOUR G5 light & I'll run it on my guns & see if you can change MY mind about 4Sevens. I'll even make a video (with documentation) eating my words if I actually like it. PM me if interested, bro.
S/F
RetreatHell 1 year ago
@RetreatHell This would be awesome to see nutnfancy.... RetreatHell does a lot of low light shooting and I know he would provide am honest unbiased opinion on the light. I currently run a G2L, and X200/300 weapon lights on my carbines and would love to have a high value option available that would fill me with the same confidence that Surefire does.
bighitter42 1 year ago
@RetreatHell wow that's one hell of an offer man. Hopefully nutn will accept! I would look forward to seeing the results from both sides!
808Arsenal 1 year ago
@nutnfancy(Part 3) I personally own 7 ARs & only 3 Surefires for them. I'm not about to go out & buy one for every gun. Screw that! I absolutely HATE paying so much money for them, but I'm 100% confident they'll turn on every single time I press the tail-cap or pressure pad, regardless of environment , adverse conditions, or shock from being mounted on any weapon.But I'd totally use the G5 & other 4Sevens lights for many other POUs, like spare lights around the house for power outages, car, etc
RetreatHell 1 year ago
@nutnfancy(Part 2) The extremely intense blast from the muzzle brake 1 inch away from the Surefire M300's head, over & over again for thousands of rounds, will eventually kill almost every light out there. I've personally experienced it with a friend's .308 battle rifle (light brand unknown) The Surefire weaponlights can take that kind of abuse b/c they're simply built better than any other light out there today. However they are NOT needed for every weapon application. It's overkill sometimes.
RetreatHell 1 year ago
@nutnfancy (Part 1 of reply) The M600 is a dedicated weaponlight, which makes all the difference. The ONLY downside is price, but I for one "highly value" my life more than anything (zing! sorry, couldn't resist bro;) ). The M600 has been proven many times over on every type of weapon, with millions & millions of rounds fired altogether. I use 2 M300s (the exact same mini version b/c of size & weight) & 1 X300 on my guns. I've got SBRs with the SF light heads right next to the muzzle brakes.
RetreatHell 1 year ago
Another 35 minutes well spent. Rock on NUTNFANCY
RB26DEST 1 year ago
Nobody I have ever trained with or under the instruction of at Front sight, or Suarez International would EVER recommend or be caught dead with a 350 lumen weapon-light let alone 500! If you get into a CQB situation with that lumen rating, you just F**ked yourself big-time. So much of the light is thrown back at the shooter that not only does it kill your night vision, but also endangers the shooter from massive light bouncing back off targets and obstacles and into the shooters eyes. No thanks
MARINE1146 1 year ago
@MARINE1146 That is why you have different light output modes. CQB mission= lower setting, long distance engagement=turbo mode....best of both worlds.
PFIDude 1 year ago
@PFIDude Good to know you can tone that sucker down....
P.S Nice meeting you on "Day 2" of SHOT! :)
MARINE1146 1 year ago
@MARINE1146 Maybe you missed the fact this light is multi-mode and user definable in illumination levels AND the primary POU designated here is 100 yd shooting on obscure targets as shown.
nutnfancy 1 year ago 40
@MARINE1146 ......P.O.U
sanantoniospurs9 1 year ago
Love it! Just got mine 3 days ago, Im at how great the beam is super amazed at how great the beam and brightest light i have ever owned!!!!! Go buy yours today!
NYCON360 1 year ago
This light might be really good for me. I work at a movie theatre (cleaning crew) and this flash light looks perfect for my needs...and maybe those Fenix flashlights too.
Nurple17 1 year ago
Night vision camera sweet, 4sevens make awesome products
TNPviewer 1 year ago
FINALLY. A good review of this torch. I can die happy now. :)
right2militia12 1 year ago 5
@right2militia12 Thanks for saying so...it was a certain amount of work to crank out!
nutnfancy 1 year ago 7
@nutnfancy I tried watching reviews by others and it just wasn't the same.. great work, nutn.
right2militia12 1 year ago
@cubixthe
SUREFIRE has been taking advantage of the ill-informed consumer for too many years with sturdy but average and way-over-priced products. "made in the USA" only goes so far, but it doesn't make surefire competetive.
jetpowered1 1 year ago 17
@jetpowered1 Totally agree with your comment...thanks!
nutnfancy 1 year ago 12
@jetpowered1 For sure. For a year or so I was on the fence about getting a surefire nitrolon (or whatever it is-- polymer) g2, but only because I thought it was cool. In terms of function it's seriously pointless at this point. They use only CR123 cells and lights from Fenix and 4sevens dominate them in that category. Many surefire lights don't have glass lenses, multiple outputs, etc. and are twice to 4 times as expensive... NO THANKS lol... They are becoming irrelevant like Maglite lol...
martinaee 1 year ago
hundred and FIRST!!!!! keep it up nuttn, and come out to the Minnesota north woods
SilenceoBobbo 1 year ago
how come the vid was made private last night? I was almost done watching it and then bam, it was gone lol.
808Arsenal 1 year ago