If the EU comission continues behaving like a ganster instrument of a corrupt stablishment dominated by banks that don't care about the people and lead countries to bankrrupcy just to buy them for a few coins latter, in complicity with politicians (coincidentlly socialist as the EU comission member are), the only sinking "state" we will see in a few years is the EU
Also I would ask the left-wing viewers of this video not to blame the actions of fascist and neo-nazi groups on the Hungarian government, as they themselves have declared several times that they want nothing to do with the government. Just as you wouldn't blame the actions of the American Nazi Party on Barack Obama's Government. Also the Jobbik, is not fascist, they are simply right-wing and nationalistic and should not be affiliated with the Nazis. In fact their name "Jobbik" implies "
This is a complete fail. You all have no idea what sort of system was in Hungary before. For example, they would have beaten people on the streets for a demonstration such as this. And who's government was that? The EU's 'liberal" government who's top priority was to sell out Hungary to the IMF and to big countries like France and England and make it a bankrupt country like Greece or Romania. Now Hungary has a strong DEMOCRATIC gov. and they don't like it they want to put it down.
And now thank to Orban who's making his country a beggar State. Where's the "great" superman Orban the punisher of EU Parliament? He's BEGGING FOR MONEY from World Economic Outlook. Hat in hand. Congrats, Orban. Be strong Hungarians your european brethens will not leave you alone against financial speculation.
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Fanatics you are just live example of why is Hungary (now called "Orbanistan") so fucked up. Everything and everyone is "against Hungary" according to you, all media that dare to criticize Orban or Jobbik are guilty and causes your suffering along with jews,banks, Eu, your neighbors, gypsies, Usa and list go on. You need to wake up or get kicked from Eu and civilized Europe. Orban has charmed you with low populism and jingoism. Why you just don't leave EU ?
Every nation has its dumb part. My idea is to gather these morons and let them stay with Barroso. They can live near us, but they won't be allowed to buy classic light bulbs for example, they will pay higher taxes etc.. according to their wishes.
Az Orbán nem igazán tudja , mit is kellene csinálni, ez azt jelenti ,h nem tesz eleget. De olyat csak egy szomoru barom mondhat, hogy ö tette tönkre az országot. Ezt a barátaid GYurcsány és társai tették. Az Orbánnak is része volt benne 10évvel elötte, de az oroszlánrészét a posztkomcsi banda és hazaáruló szdsz-es k tették
Here is some evidence that convicts Orban. His "law marathon" (one day in hungarian parliament in 2011 = two changed or regulated laws) = concetration of the political power, closed Klub-radio = normalized media, normalized courts, infrigement on freedom of religion, criminalisation of opposition, jinghoistic rhetoric, trying to establish command economy. His answer to all that critics is "stop attacking hungarian nation".
the banks expect several hundred millons euros of losses...oh no, poor bankers,
thousands of population of hungary dont have to pay back it all back with enormous interest,
hmm i like that govermental-Fidesz party-paybackplan-initiativ
plus that the shitty economic situation is not Fidesz fault, its EU regulations and laws, and the finance crisis(because of banking industry policies)
all of europe or the whole world is in economic problems because of that :/
Te az én népem oh magyar, és az örökké otthonom ó Magyarország, bár élek messze tőled. Én népem, erős, egységesen, harc az EU-harc a hazaárulók, akik viszont Magyarország az EU-ban. Unite elleni nemzetközi bankárok és a nyomtatott meg a saját pénz, a magyar pénz a magyar nép. Küzdelem a globális elit és a nemzetközi rendet. Kelj fel ellenük, és vegye vissza az otthoni, és vissza a földet a Szent István király!
@ChrolliFansite .. You are my people oh Hungarians, and you shall forever be my home oh Hungary, even though I live far from you. My people, be strong, stand united, fight the EU, fight the traitors who would hand Hungary to the EU. Unite against the international bankers and print you own money, Hungarian money for the Hungarian people. Fight the global elite and the international order. Rise up against them and take back your home and reclaim the land of King Saint Stephen
@ChrolliFansite .. Nincs kormány, hogy tökéletes, de a kormány, hogy támogatja az ország első mindig jó. A kormány az EU által ellenőrzött, akik nem magyar, és oda sem a magyar nép. Ők pusztítani téged, és el fogja pusztítani Magyarországon. Nincs erkölcs, és kívánnak elpusztítani mindent, ami helyes és jó. Ne hagyd, hogy ellenőrzést akkor .. És ne legyen, amit akarnak, hogy legyen. Ne, mint az USA-ban vagyunk uralják a gonosz emberek csakúgy, mint az EU-ban.
@ChrolliFansite There is no government that is perfect, but a government that supports it's country first is always good. The government of the EU is controlled by people who are not Hungarian, and care nothing about the Hungarian people. They will destroy you, they will destroy Hungary. They have no morals and they wish to destroy all that is right and good. Do not let them control you. And do not be what they want you to be. Do not be as the USA for we are ruled by evil men just as is the EU.
@ChrolliFansite Ne feledje, Szent István király, emlékszem az összes magyar királyok. Magyarországon nem volt demokrácia, amikor nem volt király, és a királyok tett Magyarország jó, tették Magyarországot erős. Igen voltak szegény emberek abban az időben, és voltak azok, akik gazdagok, de ez nem ugyanaz, mint most? De a nép élt szabadon. Az emberek nevettek és sírtak, voltak boldog és szomorú, mint ők most. Így állnak büszke magyar nép, és ne tévesszen meg a
@ChrolliFansite Remember King Saint Stephen, remember all of the Hungarian Kings. Hungary was not a democracy when there were Kings, and the Kings made Hungary great, they made Hungary strong. Yes there were poor people at that time, and there were those who were wealthy, but is this not the same as now ? But the people lived free. The people laughed and cried, they were happy and sad, just as they do now. So stand proud people of Hungary and do not be fooled by the international elite.
.that bunch of liberals and crypto communist screeming because dont wont to go to the jail because was rape at 2006 a democracy and for that because was stole everything ....the corruption was under that criminalls who protest now like in afghanistan....support hungary we was taxed the banks and the corporates and for that the ratingagenturs wont killing us....
@utkusarioglu i would like to send them mail, but when i click on your account it does not come up as an option, if you mail me to my account i will send the link, sorry to make it complicated.
Reading the comments below i have to say that 1. being proud of any type of ethnicity or race is bullshit. 2.The foundation of democracy is wrong, if a majority votes it doesn't necessarily mean that their vote is reasonably right especially since the masses can be easily manipulated. 3 The genocides are recent(60-70years) and used to stir up sentiments in individuals and make them involuntarily take a position. 1940's holocaust 6m dead is sensitive, conquistadors killing 80m in 1500's is not.
Everyone should read the new Hungarian constitution first, and just then make verdicts!
It's a masterpiece so I can somewhat understand why the lefty-liberal media so disturbed about it! Orban is a great Hungarian! God bless the Magyars and Christian Europe!
The demonstrations of 2006 was artificially generated by Viktor Orbans party, because they couldn’t accept that they lost the election. Hundreds of hired football hooligans, hundreds of nacis and thousands of brainwashed supportes were sent to the streets of Budapest to make riot. They set the building of Hungarian Television on fire, attacked the police with stones and molotov coctails, 400 policemen were injured.
Bla bla... You sound like some of the EU Parlament guys talking about "facts" related to Hungary while having no idea what so ever of the Hungarian reality!
Aren't you forgetting to mention, that people went on the street in 2006 after the former socialist prime minister, publicly confessed that his party had won the elections with lies? Any and I mean ANY decent prime minister would have resigned, and ANY decent Hungarian wanted that fraudulent prime minister to resign immediately.
Yo, you really sound like, if you were paid by Mr Gyurcsány himself. Are you?
Anyway, if you insist on conspiracy theories... Unlike you, I am not certain about what happened in 2006, but to me it seems like an old trick from the good old easter european communists: Pretend, that the opposition does something inacceptable, so you have the right to do any brutal contra actions you want... Again, I cannot prove this, so it is not any more (or less) of a "fact" than what you say...
@iwontupload You did. Its name was NSDAP, its same as Jobbik in Hungary and partially Fidesz which adopt lot of Jobbik laws and their rhetoric to control masses.
It is really sad what is happening and the only people who are suffering are the Hungarian people who have no say. Viktor Orban sounds like another dictator and he is taking Hungary down the communism route again...
@reyter2007 pipe down mate! I live in Hungary and it is sad to see see a beautiful country go to shambles!!! and before you go f'ing and blinding at me you fucking asshole the definition of ''COMMUNISM=a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party''. Exactly what Orban and the 2/3 Fidesz party are doing at the moment!!!
I don't deny the Khrushchevist capitalistic reforms brought things to a complete standstill. The astonishing advances of the USSR before and after, and the East Bloc after the war and state of the East Bloc today shows that while Khrushchevist socialism needed urgent and drastic reform, capitalism absolutely was not the answer and has actually been a disaster. Insofar as your definition of Communism, that's utter nonsense and I could provide100 varying definitions.
@aqs786 I also live in Hungary and don't see any "self pepetuating political part"y, unless you are mistaken and talk about the 8 years of socialist disaster that broke the country's economy and fortunatelly finished in 2010 with the election of Orban by 2/3 mayority. You should read more, the country's economic trouble is the result of 8 years of bad socialist politics that doubled the country´s debt and took an economy growing at 4% per year y 2002 to -6% in 2009
@reyter2007 pipe down mate! I live in Hungary and it is sad to see see a beautiful country go to shambles!!! and before you go f'ing and blinding at me you fucking asshole the definition of ''COMMUNISM=a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party''. Exactly what Orban and the 2/3 Fidesz party are doing at the moment!!!
Why is the mournful tone :) ? Orbán is just a little short-term nuisance. We survived hells of countless wars and rage of giant armies. We will not be defeated by soccer player.
apologize for what exactly? I don't mean to offend any Hungarian. To me Hungary was best when it was under Soviet control. But those times are gone. So I am interested to see what a government that cares about it's own people before foreign interest will achieve. Things could not have gotten any worse. Hungary in the past few years was the bitch of western europe and foreign interests. I think this will be an interesting break from modern "Matrix" type rule.
This should be proof to the PEOPLE of the western world who is in control. I don't know if this government is right or wrong. It looks like israels like raft might be disappearing.
He repaid the bailout loans and, free of the IMF's strictures, his government then passed a law allowing mortgage borrowers to convert their debts back into Hungarian forints at the old exchange rate, leaving the banks to eat the currency losses. (From CNN) WOW! Screwing the banks back!! First of you notice that CNN won't let you comment on that story. So let's get this straight. If the government helps people buy fighting back against banks the way the banks screw people that is anti-semitist?
Hungry is fucked up! Victor Orbaan is an idiot as the people voted for their mad government. They are more interested in supporting right-wing-parties than working hard in the economical field. I ve never met a country in the EU where people are so unable to handle foreign languages, even english! Beside cheap dentists, what is hungary worth for? They were even unable to handle burst of the poisonous red-mud-reservoir! A polluted environment makes Hungary unattractiv for everyone! Fitch's right!
Hungary's a pretty damn beautiful place. Especially Budapest. Just like every country in the world. Obviously Hungary isn't going to be perfect but neither is any other place in the world.
The Banker of course thinks it's a tragedy that for once the banks are being asked to pay for their duplicity! That is not what they were speculating for!
It is only since governments (persuaded by banksters) ceased to print their own interest free money and started borrowing from banks at interest that National debt and unemployment has followed. Our corrupt politicians have sold us all to the banks who now, control every aspect of our lives .
What are you evil creeps or what? Stop protesting against a man who said NO TO ABORTIONS. He did the right thing so stop protesting, Hungary must be a Christian country-greetings from Latvia!!
@Ishtara1000 fuck you! He also wants to make it illegal for homeless peopel top live on the streets! WTF kind of piece of shit does a thing like that? is that christian you fucktard asshole?
@Vogter616 There are special places for those kinda people, where they are taken care of and well fed! Your president is doing the right thing, next step should be to ban the condom market, that is why there are no babys being born, because of those condoms and all other contrapception! Hes is so strict, because he knows what is going on in politics and wants to ban the peodophiles from politics-god job he is doing!! And put the prayers back in school system!
@Vogter616 Well my friend, God is very real, I dont know is Orban a christian or not, but I support some of his iedeas, not all of them! Life in Hungary is still pretty good, you have to admit it, look at North Korea for instance, there they live by two principles-Eat or dont eat.
@Ishtara1000 How can you say something like that?????? As a Hungarian I am deeply hurt by your statement! Hungary is in big trouble. Fron Jauary 2012 we pay 56-57% of our gross sallary to the government. Average sallary is 500 GBP. The choice is: Eat or heat! I expect you to apologise!
@lujzaoreglany O.K. I am living in Latvia our average salary is 400 GBP and we have huge problem of countless russian immigrants coming to our country, they are happy here, because life here is better than in Russia, we are saying to them-please go back to russia, but they dont listen to us and attack us, for saying so. So you hungarians are in much better situation, but still vaining about something. We should all better say to Putin to raise minimum wages for russians in Russia!
You can't say God is real...? Do you have any proof. Cause if there was a god why would kids suffer in Africa, why would there be disease, cancer, hate, etc... What kind of god would let this happen. I for one wouldn't.
@TheWarmplate Well if you would have studied BIBLE you would know. It says in the bible, when Jesus Christ said, that God of this world is Satan, yes God of this world is Satan. That is why from mid September till late October there are many thousands sacrificied, their blood drunk, heart eaten-who is doing it?? The Very rich people, many billionaires, search for ROTSCHILD FAMILY their wealth is estimated more than 500 TRILLION DOLLARS. They are generational Luciferians-PROOF!
@TheWarmplate So there you have it brought in a daylight, they are responsible for all the robberies of many countries, they controlled Nazi movement and created communism, search for this family and you will discover the truth, after that study the Bible, there is one whos is more powerfull than that, and his name is Jesus Christ!
Only media brainwashed people. The reforms in Hingary are not good for the Bansters and globalists and military industrial complex. We want this kind of reforms in the USA.
I am hungarian, but I really dont understand the people around me. Gyurcsany prime minister was not good enough, Orban prime minister is not good enough, so WTF do these people want? They are just not satisfied with anything.
as a Hungarian I'd like to thank Journeyman Pictures for making this video. It's a very balanced overview of the situation, a much needed clarity and perspective.
Exactly how? You are speaking out of irrational hatred, not out of an objective perspective. The previous government was corrupt as fuck, but not any more corrupt than our current government, but more importantly, they did little to butcher our rights, our democracy and freedoms, while Orbán and his merry band went nuclear on them.
@d3st88 Well, I know, Fidesz is really fucked up, but socialists has spent more money, than what the state had, so, literally there was(is) money flowing out everywhere of the system, the Fidesz said, that they would solve every problem, what the socialists has caused, but now they're doing a lot of things what are nonsense. I think they're liars as well. But socialists has caused such a big damage, that It's almost unfixable(if you are thinking as an optimist)
27:15 "peaceful demonstrators" who almost burned the building of the Hungarian Television, throwing molotov cocktails to the building and the police, or the mob encouraged by Orbán at Kossuth tér ("My dear friends, we cannot let these liars rule the country, we have to do EVERYTHING to break the Gyurcsány government!")? Actually it's the same, and after they had their little "revolution" our beloved pm just turned away ("This is not the way the things should be done!").
Sounds like the United States now. Congress, Senate, and the President passed and signed a law to allow the military to detain and arrest citizens accused of terrorism without trial.
Incorrect. As the report mentioned, while those banks do pay more, taxes have been raised and the lower and middle class is now paying MUCH more. Keep in mind that the average Hungarian earns 854 USD a month! BEFORE TAXES! Taxes take away about 50% of our wages. Do the math. The minimum wage was just raised to 380 USD/month before taxes.
I'm not familiar with the Austrian tax system. "Income Tax" is just one of the income taxes here. Various other taxes get deducted from your salary. The new income tax favoured the wealthy and the top middle class and made everyone lower pay more. Salary-wise, I'm above average and I lose about 50% of my wage as taxes. +My employer pays a lot of further taxes after me.
Looks like the Hungarian Govt has set up the tools to totally control the media. It remains to be seen when it will exercise this power.
The trouble with changing the constitution to suit your own ideology is that you don't know how it will be used. Perhaps this government wont exercise the absolute power they are building up but the next one will, or the one after that, and maybe they will be more inclined to extermism. What if Jobbik gets in?
There were quite a lot of atrocities on the freedom of our media. For example, one popular website that parodized the government controlled public broadcasting TV network has just been shut down today and their owners were threatened with jailtime.
I hope to see Poland and Hungary away from Sov.... sorry, European Union - this f***ing sinking experiment, attempt to create IV Reich. Instead of this, maybe some kind of central-europe alliance, like Visegrád Group, with free-trade zone and without any socialist scumbag messing around.
Lengyel, Magyar – két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát
@XvallorX Nobody has a problem if you leave , better today than tomorow , funny your country gets billons of Euro and also billons of investments from the oh so bad Germans ,btw your country is full of rasist stupid idiots like you .
@Stranskii First of all, in what way my comment or I am racist? Is this all you can say?
About money, it is not like European Rei... sorry Union are giving money like charity. They give, and demand - obedience, giving up on some part of independence, law making outside of my country. Look at the countries, which gets most of Eu founds before 2004 - Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Greece. Do you get the picture now? And beside this, most investments are not from Eu but FDI outside Europe.
@reyter2007 "Country:Sweden" - seems like you are just another posh kid, believing in bullshit told by lenin and confirmed by stalin, knowing nothing about living under soviet shoe. Socialism and his younger brother communism are the most stupid and devastating political systems on earth. The solution my friend is to give people freedom and cut government interruption in every aspect of our life as much as possible - which is exactly opposite to what you want. Red is dead.
You stupid Slav! You think it's a workers paradise in Sweden? The Slavs never had it so good as when J. V. Stalin was managing the Soviet Union and supervising the leaders of other Slavic countries. BTW If J. V. Stalin was so bad, I sincerely hope you are in favor of granting the German lands he (deservedly) gave to Poland back to Germany.
Anyway, we all know Poles who denounce J. V. Stalin suffer from extreme self-loathing as J. V. Stalin did save Poles from extinction!
@reyter2007 So true - Stalin saved Poles from extinction, like the 40 thousand he killed (he personally signed orders to kill) in Smolensk forest. So true - Stalin gave us lands on west, but how about or eastern border he took? Please kid, don't wave affront of me with red flag. Save your B$ to some other comrades. Waste of time speaking with you. Learn some history first, ask some people, who lived in such times and in such countries before writing such science-fiction comments. oi
Stupid Slav! Nazis killed those Polish officers but Soviets would have had the right due to 100000 revolutionary soldiers died in Polish captivity after Poland's cowardly attack and occupation of western Ukraine, that J. V. Stalin liberated in 1939. Poles like you make me think J. V. Stalin should have stopped at the frontier and let German capitalism carry out it's plans for Poles or at least incorporate those German lands into the USSR rather than grant them to Poland!
@reyter2007 At the moment kid, you are being incredibly racist (just like any other commie), and I don't want to talk with such moron. Please, learn proper history, and don't try on me soviet propaganda. In fact, I suggest you should emigrate to DPRK, and spread revolution there. You will see, how wonderful it is. End of discussion.
WTF are you raving about, you stupid Slav?! Is calling a Slav "a Slav" racist????
Now it all makes sense! You suffer from extreme self loathing and thus, hate the Soviet Union. Regardless, thanks to J. V. Stalin and Russian Slavs for saving Poles from likely extinction. And BTW if you don't want to hear the truth, and I know you don't, don't make stupid statements on the basis that the person you are making them to doesn't know the truth!
Stupid Slav! Be so kind as to point out "my lies"? Did Poland not cowardly attack the revolutionary republic while it was fighting off the invasion(s) of all the major capitalist powers and occupy western Ukraine? Were they not the lands J. V. Stalin liberated in 1939? Did J. V. Stalin, the Soviet Union, Red Army and Russian Slavs not save Polish Slavs from likely extinction at the hands of German capitalism? What are my lies you stupid, lying, self-loathing Slav?????
LOL Let this be a lesson to you. Don't make stupid comments which you know are not true on the basis that the person you are making them to doesn't know the truth. It only makes you look not only a stupid Slav but somewhat mentally ill. And henceforth I order you to demand Poland return the German lands J. V. Stalin granted to Poland to Germany if you are going to continue to talk s**t about J. V. Stalin and the Soviet Union! And see someone about you self-loathing as well!
@reyter2007 I apologize. Poland indeed killed 10 millions Soviet prisoners in 1919-1921. Smolensk massacre was made not by Soviets, but Paraguayans. Big Starvation on Ukraine was not caused by Soviet policy, but sabotage of Hungarian terrorists. Great Purge cleaned only guilty people, and people were going to Gulag's on vacation. Forgive me, I just believe in free market and freedom of the nations, don't waste such wisdom words here, and spread the revolution in your kindergarten.
LOL So that is how you respond to the "FACTS" I outlined? Did I tell you before that you are a very stupid Slav?
It's annoying that you are so stupid as to talk about "being free" despite the vagueness of it. Be so kind as to outline exactly what "freedom" is? How is it determined if one is "free" or not? Free market capitalism existed everywhere 100 years ago but certainly the vast majority of nations and vast majority of the population of nations weren't "free".
@reyter2007 Those aren't facts, but science fiction man. As I told before, learn history before saying some stupid shit. Denying Soviet genocide on Poles is incredibly offending, especially to people, whom family members were killed by Soviet (your hero Stalin signed direct order).
Stop lying you wretched Slav! When did what is now western Ukraine become part of Poland? Were the majority of the population Polish at that time? Was the Revolutionary Republic fighting off the invasion of Japan, France, UK and USA (among several smaller countries)? When did J. V. Stalin liberate those lands? Why wasn't German capitalism able to carry out it's self-stated plans to rid Poland of Poles? Who granted the German lands in now western Poland to Poland?
@reyter2007 hey i am pretty sure that it is possible to argue without being rude, what you called XvallorX was disrespectful and rude. there is no need
Why was I disrespectful and rude? Because I called him/her stupid? Well he/she made comments to me, which he/she knows are not true on the basis that I didn't know the truth. He/she was disrespectful and rude to me for thinking I am a moron who doesn't know the truth.
@reyter2007 Well trolling and racist comment considered rude last time i checked and what I do not know who you are, but what he said to him was racist and out of order. if you do not realise what you do is racist rude and disrespectful then all i say i pitty you, and yes kind of makes you look silly. He was arguing fine you called him all kinds, that is not the way to argue. he made points you made points and racist comments. Then you said its not racist, well sorry check racism in dictionary
Hmmm this comment annoyed me actually. I found it very racist. On what basis can someone from England insult Slavs? Everyone knows about Slavs. They are strong and fight well, are very smart and outstanding athletes. The women are generally exceptionally beautiful but at the same time they are friendly and outward looking. K. K. Rokossovsky and F. E. Dzerzhinsky were both great Polish Slavs and of course **V. I. Lenin himself was a Slav!** What about the UK? LOL
Very simple and don't play innocent! To lecture me about "racist comments" when the only reference to a race or ethnic group I made was to call a Slav, "a Slav" is a flagrant insult to Slavs!
@reyter2007 Wow so i guess my point is proven nothing i said was racist, you on the ohter hand were proved all your hatful horrid comments regarding fellow human beings, you might not used to people who tell you are wrong when you are wrong. i think you owe an appologie for the guy who are youn insulted and made racist comments about, and me for calling me racist bacause i think you and INDIVIDUALY YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER. making comment about people etnicity is racist therefore YOU ARE RACIST
"Wow" you want to push on with this? I have a high opinion of Slavs and thus, I take it as a personal insult anyone, much less one from UK, would call me "racist" because I had the audacity to call a Slav "a Slav". I request you retract your hateful comments. After all, I have been to most of the Slavic countries and the local Slavs think I am one of them. This makes me feel happy but you are seriously tempting me to make some really racist comments though, not anti-Slavic!
@reyter2007 then you shouldnt talk like that, it is not just me who thoght you were racist, and yes making negativ comment about someone and including in the sentence his or her race is RACIST.
you can take however you want to i am not going to sit back and read racist comment, because it is not right, and really do not care what is your opinion to me, or the UK.
FYI my comment are not hateful just not appritiating racism is not being hateful.
@reyter2007 i can see you not very good admiting when you were wrong. So i guess for you then it was ok so call him on names, wasnt it???? and then tell me it was not racist and was not rude what was it? nice? if you are bored of this maybe you should not talk like that to people? what is wrong you not used to people telling you that you be wrong?
Not good at admitting I'm wrong? Of course, you are right. Slavs are in fact a race rather than an ethnic group and part of the Caucasian race.
If I want to denounce a Slav for making stupid, (if not outright lies) anti Polish comments I will do so and neither need or want your permission to do it!
I am of the same race as Slavs and thus, for me to make racist comments about Slavs would be making racist comments about myself. Can you fathom that?
@reyter2007 yes i do, but perhaps you should think before you talk and i do not think you comments were apropritate, they were racist i have to insist on that, regardless who you are, how you talked to him was out oof order, you are right you do not need my premission to be rude or racist neither i do to tell you to stop it and i have a feeling if more people would tell you so you would not feel so up for rants and racist comments.
"Yes you do" what? Still think Slavs are a race rather than an ethnic group of the Caucasian race?
To be perfectly honest, your messages have gone from annoying, to tiresome to funny by now.
I don't care in the slightest "what you think" or "what you insist" and you may not "tell me" anything! If I'm in any kind of exchange with a Slav you should learn your place and not try and interfere where it isn't wanted or needed by either party.
The great sacrifices we made in the name of the freedom and independence of our Motherland, the incalculable privations and sufferings experienced by our people in the course of the war, the intense work in the rear and at the front, have not been in vain, and have been crowned by complete victory. The age-long struggle of the Slavic peoples for their existence has ended in complete victory over the invaders and German tyranny.
J. V. Stalin: Replies to Questions put by Mr. Hugh Baillie, President of the U. P. of America October 28, 1946
Q 18 (H. Baillie): In the United States there is some debate about the Western frontiers of Poland. Does the Soviet Union regard the Western frontiers of Poland permanent?
I did not insult! The Slav insulted me by presuming I didn't know the truth about the facts I described and insulted all Polish people by slandering the man [J. V. Stalin] and state [the Soviet Union] that saved Poles from likely extinction at the hands of German capitalism!
J. V. Stalin: Telegram to the Slavic Congress Reunion in Belgrade
December 8, 1946
I greet the participants of the first Slavic Congress since the war, the representatives of the peace-loving Slavic peoples. I am sure that the Slavic Congress will contribute to and deeply strengthen the friendship and fraternal solidarity of the Slavic peoples and will serve the cause of the development of democracy and the consolidation of peace between the peoples.
@reyter2007 you do not even notive how racist how you write and how you talk about fallow humans, so i m gonna stop arguing with you you are a sad person and clearly waste of time and energy. i pitty you. bye
To accuse me of denouncing one simply because he or she is a Slav, I take offense because I have a high opinion of them. To accuse me of denouncing one because he or she is British.... well I have a friend from there but 90% who I cross paths with I find intensely annoying. A lot of them give the impression that they deem themselves superior because they are British which I find utterly astonishing! They are deranged! Anyway, I guess I will have to plead guilty to that. Bye.
It is not a politician task. They should keep taxes for companies as low as possible, throw away bureaucracy, make law simple and that's about it. People are creating jobs - through foreign investments or some domestic companies. So, keep taxes low, dont spend money on social security, make health and education system private and everyone would see some progress.
Hungary has maybe the strongest and most present right wing party in Europe, and not only that they are very brutal against romas, it is very sad what happens
Not just gipsies, but the average right winger also hates gays, liberals, socialists, jews, is fond of nazi slogens and ideas, is convinced that jews are trying to destroy the country and the world with their money and evil conspiracy and so on. IT IS MADNESS.
Not just gipsies, but the average right winger also hates gays, liberals, socialists, jews, is fond of nazi slogens and ideas, is convinced that jews are trying to destroy the country and the world with their money and evil conspiracy and so on. IT IS MADNESS.
04:23 My goodness, that is an unfortunate moustache. Didn't he get the memo that the Charlie Chaplin moustache has become a bit inappropriate after a 'certain' historical figure?
If the EU comission continues behaving like a ganster instrument of a corrupt stablishment dominated by banks that don't care about the people and lead countries to bankrrupcy just to buy them for a few coins latter, in complicity with politicians (coincidentlly socialist as the EU comission member are), the only sinking "state" we will see in a few years is the EU
jdiaz074 2 days ago
Proud to be Hungarian!
TudatThought7Imagine 1 week ago
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As I was saying, the name "Jobbik" in Hungarian implies not only right, but better as in "a better Hungary", which is their primary goal.
aronthehun 2 weeks ago
Also I would ask the left-wing viewers of this video not to blame the actions of fascist and neo-nazi groups on the Hungarian government, as they themselves have declared several times that they want nothing to do with the government. Just as you wouldn't blame the actions of the American Nazi Party on Barack Obama's Government. Also the Jobbik, is not fascist, they are simply right-wing and nationalistic and should not be affiliated with the Nazis. In fact their name "Jobbik" implies "
aronthehun 2 weeks ago
This is a complete fail. You all have no idea what sort of system was in Hungary before. For example, they would have beaten people on the streets for a demonstration such as this. And who's government was that? The EU's 'liberal" government who's top priority was to sell out Hungary to the IMF and to big countries like France and England and make it a bankrupt country like Greece or Romania. Now Hungary has a strong DEMOCRATIC gov. and they don't like it they want to put it down.
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And now thank to Orban who's making his country a beggar State. Where's the "great" superman Orban the punisher of EU Parliament? He's BEGGING FOR MONEY from World Economic Outlook. Hat in hand. Congrats, Orban. Be strong Hungarians your european brethens will not leave you alone against financial speculation.
proferrando 3 weeks ago
huncutattila5...Azokat a koment-eket apam adta nem en...es snoop doog-ot es mas amerikai szamokat en halgatok nem apam.nkd arra semmi kozod..es ugyelj hogy beszelsz te nagy huje fasz..paraszt ami vagy.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cupika93 4 weeks ago
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Fanatics you are just live example of why is Hungary (now called "Orbanistan") so fucked up. Everything and everyone is "against Hungary" according to you, all media that dare to criticize Orban or Jobbik are guilty and causes your suffering along with jews,banks, Eu, your neighbors, gypsies, Usa and list go on. You need to wake up or get kicked from Eu and civilized Europe. Orban has charmed you with low populism and jingoism. Why you just don't leave EU ?
veduuci 1 month ago 3
Every nation has its dumb part. My idea is to gather these morons and let them stay with Barroso. They can live near us, but they won't be allowed to buy classic light bulbs for example, they will pay higher taxes etc.. according to their wishes.
krokeman 1 month ago
Az Orbán nem igazán tudja , mit is kellene csinálni, ez azt jelenti ,h nem tesz eleget. De olyat csak egy szomoru barom mondhat, hogy ö tette tönkre az országot. Ezt a barátaid GYurcsány és társai tették. Az Orbánnak is része volt benne 10évvel elötte, de az oroszlánrészét a posztkomcsi banda és hazaáruló szdsz-es k tették
0711959 1 month ago
Jewish mindcontrol Media! Bravo orban!!! Best Prime Minister since 2000, lol
jiggalb 1 month ago
Thumbs up for Orbán Viktor!
Fuck the socialists and bankers and jews!
isztom 1 month ago
To the arms, like Lybia did!
mattmirai 1 month ago
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Here is some evidence that convicts Orban. His "law marathon" (one day in hungarian parliament in 2011 = two changed or regulated laws) = concetration of the political power, closed Klub-radio = normalized media, normalized courts, infrigement on freedom of religion, criminalisation of opposition, jinghoistic rhetoric, trying to establish command economy. His answer to all that critics is "stop attacking hungarian nation".
veduuci 1 month ago 4
the banks expect several hundred millons euros of losses...oh no, poor bankers,
thousands of population of hungary dont have to pay back it all back with enormous interest,
hmm i like that govermental-Fidesz party-paybackplan-initiativ
plus that the shitty economic situation is not Fidesz fault, its EU regulations and laws, and the finance crisis(because of banking industry policies)
all of europe or the whole world is in economic problems because of that :/
savednorwegian 1 month ago
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Te az én népem oh magyar, és az örökké otthonom ó Magyarország, bár élek messze tőled. Én népem, erős, egységesen, harc az EU-harc a hazaárulók, akik viszont Magyarország az EU-ban. Unite elleni nemzetközi bankárok és a nyomtatott meg a saját pénz, a magyar pénz a magyar nép. Küzdelem a globális elit és a nemzetközi rendet. Kelj fel ellenük, és vegye vissza az otthoni, és vissza a földet a Szent István király!
ChrolliFansite 1 month ago
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@ChrolliFansite .. You are my people oh Hungarians, and you shall forever be my home oh Hungary, even though I live far from you. My people, be strong, stand united, fight the EU, fight the traitors who would hand Hungary to the EU. Unite against the international bankers and print you own money, Hungarian money for the Hungarian people. Fight the global elite and the international order. Rise up against them and take back your home and reclaim the land of King Saint Stephen
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@ChrolliFansite .. Nincs kormány, hogy tökéletes, de a kormány, hogy támogatja az ország első mindig jó. A kormány az EU által ellenőrzött, akik nem magyar, és oda sem a magyar nép. Ők pusztítani téged, és el fogja pusztítani Magyarországon. Nincs erkölcs, és kívánnak elpusztítani mindent, ami helyes és jó. Ne hagyd, hogy ellenőrzést akkor .. És ne legyen, amit akarnak, hogy legyen. Ne, mint az USA-ban vagyunk uralják a gonosz emberek csakúgy, mint az EU-ban.
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@ChrolliFansite There is no government that is perfect, but a government that supports it's country first is always good. The government of the EU is controlled by people who are not Hungarian, and care nothing about the Hungarian people. They will destroy you, they will destroy Hungary. They have no morals and they wish to destroy all that is right and good. Do not let them control you. And do not be what they want you to be. Do not be as the USA for we are ruled by evil men just as is the EU.
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@ChrolliFansite Ne feledje, Szent István király, emlékszem az összes magyar királyok. Magyarországon nem volt demokrácia, amikor nem volt király, és a királyok tett Magyarország jó, tették Magyarországot erős. Igen voltak szegény emberek abban az időben, és voltak azok, akik gazdagok, de ez nem ugyanaz, mint most? De a nép élt szabadon. Az emberek nevettek és sírtak, voltak boldog és szomorú, mint ők most. Így állnak büszke magyar nép, és ne tévesszen meg a
ChrolliFansite 1 month ago
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@ChrolliFansite Remember King Saint Stephen, remember all of the Hungarian Kings. Hungary was not a democracy when there were Kings, and the Kings made Hungary great, they made Hungary strong. Yes there were poor people at that time, and there were those who were wealthy, but is this not the same as now ? But the people lived free. The people laughed and cried, they were happy and sad, just as they do now. So stand proud people of Hungary and do not be fooled by the international elite.
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.that bunch of liberals and crypto communist screeming because dont wont to go to the jail because was rape at 2006 a democracy and for that because was stole everything ....the corruption was under that criminalls who protest now like in afghanistan....support hungary we was taxed the banks and the corporates and for that the ratingagenturs wont killing us....
007hangman 1 month ago
Can a Hungarian tell me whether this is all true or is it journeyman being journeyman again?
utkusarioglu 1 month ago
@utkusarioglu as far as i know these news are accurate, there are more sites i can send you links via email if you are interested
Rienneil 1 month ago
@Rienneil i'd be grateful
utkusarioglu 1 month ago
@utkusarioglu i would like to send them mail, but when i click on your account it does not come up as an option, if you mail me to my account i will send the link, sorry to make it complicated.
Rienneil 1 month ago
@Rienneil you can contact me through the facebook link on my channel. and thanks again
utkusarioglu 1 month ago
Reading the comments below i have to say that 1. being proud of any type of ethnicity or race is bullshit. 2.The foundation of democracy is wrong, if a majority votes it doesn't necessarily mean that their vote is reasonably right especially since the masses can be easily manipulated. 3 The genocides are recent(60-70years) and used to stir up sentiments in individuals and make them involuntarily take a position. 1940's holocaust 6m dead is sensitive, conquistadors killing 80m in 1500's is not.
lights8811 1 month ago
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Everyone should read the new Hungarian constitution first, and just then make verdicts!
It's a masterpiece so I can somewhat understand why the lefty-liberal media so disturbed about it! Orban is a great Hungarian! God bless the Magyars and Christian Europe!
GK84XIIO 1 month ago
If Proehle Gergely would say anything else than what he said he would lose his job
barbabecca 1 month ago
itt mindenki magyar miert beszeltek angolul?
2009korte 1 month ago
Its communism created by the banks! Hungary has lost its sovereingty..
They are stealing your property and shutting you up!
Hillsillverr 1 month ago in playlist Hungary
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Orban, you're only a tragic "buffone", ridiculising and devastating your own country. Shame on you.
proferrando 1 month ago
A small addition to this video:
The demonstrations of 2006 was artificially generated by Viktor Orbans party, because they couldn’t accept that they lost the election. Hundreds of hired football hooligans, hundreds of nacis and thousands of brainwashed supportes were sent to the streets of Budapest to make riot. They set the building of Hungarian Television on fire, attacked the police with stones and molotov coctails, 400 policemen were injured.
polgar111 1 month ago 27
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Bla bla... You sound like some of the EU Parlament guys talking about "facts" related to Hungary while having no idea what so ever of the Hungarian reality!
Aren't you forgetting to mention, that people went on the street in 2006 after the former socialist prime minister, publicly confessed that his party had won the elections with lies? Any and I mean ANY decent prime minister would have resigned, and ANY decent Hungarian wanted that fraudulent prime minister to resign immediately.
gonczos 1 month ago
Fidesz always talks about peaceful demonstrators, but it’s simply not true. That’s why no criticism arrived from abroad those days.
In 2006 Fidesz tried to undermine democracy as an oppositon party, now as governing party it actually ruins the democratic institution.
polgar111 1 month ago 27
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Yo, you really sound like, if you were paid by Mr Gyurcsány himself. Are you?
Anyway, if you insist on conspiracy theories... Unlike you, I am not certain about what happened in 2006, but to me it seems like an old trick from the good old easter european communists: Pretend, that the opposition does something inacceptable, so you have the right to do any brutal contra actions you want... Again, I cannot prove this, so it is not any more (or less) of a "fact" than what you say...
gonczos 1 month ago
@polgar111 I'm not Hungarian, but I must say I really like the Jobbik party. We should have a party like that here in Germany.
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@iwontupload You did. Its name was NSDAP, its same as Jobbik in Hungary and partially Fidesz which adopt lot of Jobbik laws and their rhetoric to control masses.
veduuci 1 month ago 15
@veduuci Good. Death to Democracy!
iwontupload 1 month ago
It is really sad what is happening and the only people who are suffering are the Hungarian people who have no say. Viktor Orban sounds like another dictator and he is taking Hungary down the communism route again...
aqs786 1 month ago 2
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WTF???? You mean to say, the more ultra right-wing a capitalist or capitalist party is, the more communist it is???? Fucking moron!
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 pipe down mate! I live in Hungary and it is sad to see see a beautiful country go to shambles!!! and before you go f'ing and blinding at me you fucking asshole the definition of ''COMMUNISM=a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party''. Exactly what Orban and the 2/3 Fidesz party are doing at the moment!!!
aqs786 1 month ago 10
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I don't deny the Khrushchevist capitalistic reforms brought things to a complete standstill. The astonishing advances of the USSR before and after, and the East Bloc after the war and state of the East Bloc today shows that while Khrushchevist socialism needed urgent and drastic reform, capitalism absolutely was not the answer and has actually been a disaster. Insofar as your definition of Communism, that's utter nonsense and I could provide100 varying definitions.
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jdiaz074 2 days ago
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@aqs786 I also live in Hungary and don't see any "self pepetuating political part"y, unless you are mistaken and talk about the 8 years of socialist disaster that broke the country's economy and fortunatelly finished in 2010 with the election of Orban by 2/3 mayority. You should read more, the country's economic trouble is the result of 8 years of bad socialist politics that doubled the country´s debt and took an economy growing at 4% per year y 2002 to -6% in 2009
jdiaz074 2 days ago
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@reyter2007 pipe down mate! I live in Hungary and it is sad to see see a beautiful country go to shambles!!! and before you go f'ing and blinding at me you fucking asshole the definition of ''COMMUNISM=a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party''. Exactly what Orban and the 2/3 Fidesz party are doing at the moment!!!
aqs786 1 month ago
Hungary is the best!!
Ishtara1000 1 month ago
Why is the mournful tone :) ? Orbán is just a little short-term nuisance. We survived hells of countless wars and rage of giant armies. We will not be defeated by soccer player.
bztube888 1 month ago
apologize for what exactly? I don't mean to offend any Hungarian. To me Hungary was best when it was under Soviet control. But those times are gone. So I am interested to see what a government that cares about it's own people before foreign interest will achieve. Things could not have gotten any worse. Hungary in the past few years was the bitch of western europe and foreign interests. I think this will be an interesting break from modern "Matrix" type rule.
canamwing 1 month ago
This should be proof to the PEOPLE of the western world who is in control. I don't know if this government is right or wrong. It looks like israels like raft might be disappearing.
canamwing 1 month ago
He repaid the bailout loans and, free of the IMF's strictures, his government then passed a law allowing mortgage borrowers to convert their debts back into Hungarian forints at the old exchange rate, leaving the banks to eat the currency losses. (From CNN) WOW! Screwing the banks back!! First of you notice that CNN won't let you comment on that story. So let's get this straight. If the government helps people buy fighting back against banks the way the banks screw people that is anti-semitist?
canamwing 1 month ago
I see the dramatic pictures and hearing the words. I do. But what is this video about?
Please show the truth to the World!
Journalism must take responsible what it creates!
Hungary is under attack of the New World Order!
Stop attacking Hungary! Justice for Hungary!
smoker1kk 1 month ago
Fuck the russian left side system.
Try to help Poland to fight with old communists. Without of them you lose. Without you we will never win..
TrupRomana2012 1 month ago
why the fuck are they worried banks. they have ripped people off and now cry foul play . yeah right
VinTironci1 1 month ago in playlist Journeyman Weekly
Hungry is fucked up! Victor Orbaan is an idiot as the people voted for their mad government. They are more interested in supporting right-wing-parties than working hard in the economical field. I ve never met a country in the EU where people are so unable to handle foreign languages, even english! Beside cheap dentists, what is hungary worth for? They were even unable to handle burst of the poisonous red-mud-reservoir! A polluted environment makes Hungary unattractiv for everyone! Fitch's right!
cyberrider99 1 month ago
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Hungary's a pretty damn beautiful place. Especially Budapest. Just like every country in the world. Obviously Hungary isn't going to be perfect but neither is any other place in the world.
TheWarmplate 1 month ago
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cyberrider99 1 month ago
Screw the facist Orban!
Vogter616 1 month ago
People are in trouble because they have taken out loans made available by foreign banks? Greetings from Poland, we will be f-ed as well soon...
easychan 1 month ago
The Banker of course thinks it's a tragedy that for once the banks are being asked to pay for their duplicity! That is not what they were speculating for!
FedupwithR 1 month ago
It is only since governments (persuaded by banksters) ceased to print their own interest free money and started borrowing from banks at interest that National debt and unemployment has followed. Our corrupt politicians have sold us all to the banks who now, control every aspect of our lives .
FedupwithR 1 month ago
HUNGARY WILL NEVER SINK!!! European Union will sink earlier than Hungary
Loocas77 1 month ago
What are you evil creeps or what? Stop protesting against a man who said NO TO ABORTIONS. He did the right thing so stop protesting, Hungary must be a Christian country-greetings from Latvia!!
Ishtara1000 1 month ago
@Ishtara1000 fuck you! He also wants to make it illegal for homeless peopel top live on the streets! WTF kind of piece of shit does a thing like that? is that christian you fucktard asshole?
Vogter616 1 month ago
@Vogter616 There are special places for those kinda people, where they are taken care of and well fed! Your president is doing the right thing, next step should be to ban the condom market, that is why there are no babys being born, because of those condoms and all other contrapception! Hes is so strict, because he knows what is going on in politics and wants to ban the peodophiles from politics-god job he is doing!! And put the prayers back in school system!
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Vogter616 1 month ago
@Ishtara1000 pray to what? thin air? There is no god. Orban is good evidence for that you frigging moron.
Vogter616 1 month ago
@Vogter616 Well my friend, God is very real, I dont know is Orban a christian or not, but I support some of his iedeas, not all of them! Life in Hungary is still pretty good, you have to admit it, look at North Korea for instance, there they live by two principles-Eat or dont eat.
Ishtara1000 1 month ago
@Ishtara1000 So because it is still sort of ok we can just sit back and do nothing. You are an idiot. And prove god to me.
Vogter616 1 month ago
@Vogter616 Sent you a letter, go check it out, after, that write me back about your opinion on it, watch other parts, please!
Ishtara1000 1 month ago
@Ishtara1000 How can you say something like that?????? As a Hungarian I am deeply hurt by your statement! Hungary is in big trouble. Fron Jauary 2012 we pay 56-57% of our gross sallary to the government. Average sallary is 500 GBP. The choice is: Eat or heat! I expect you to apologise!
lujzaoreglany 1 month ago
@lujzaoreglany O.K. I am living in Latvia our average salary is 400 GBP and we have huge problem of countless russian immigrants coming to our country, they are happy here, because life here is better than in Russia, we are saying to them-please go back to russia, but they dont listen to us and attack us, for saying so. So you hungarians are in much better situation, but still vaining about something. We should all better say to Putin to raise minimum wages for russians in Russia!
Ishtara1000 1 month ago
@Ishtara1000
You can't say God is real...? Do you have any proof. Cause if there was a god why would kids suffer in Africa, why would there be disease, cancer, hate, etc... What kind of god would let this happen. I for one wouldn't.
TheWarmplate 1 month ago
@TheWarmplate Well if you would have studied BIBLE you would know. It says in the bible, when Jesus Christ said, that God of this world is Satan, yes God of this world is Satan. That is why from mid September till late October there are many thousands sacrificied, their blood drunk, heart eaten-who is doing it?? The Very rich people, many billionaires, search for ROTSCHILD FAMILY their wealth is estimated more than 500 TRILLION DOLLARS. They are generational Luciferians-PROOF!
Ishtara1000 1 month ago
@TheWarmplate So there you have it brought in a daylight, they are responsible for all the robberies of many countries, they controlled Nazi movement and created communism, search for this family and you will discover the truth, after that study the Bible, there is one whos is more powerfull than that, and his name is Jesus Christ!
Ishtara1000 1 month ago
They enjoy Fidez.
geir44 1 month ago
i live in a shit hole call vietnam u hungarian need to lynch this piece of fascist garbage or else this country will be another ussr
limwang75 1 month ago
@limwang75 Precisely!
Vogter616 1 month ago
want to go to hungary ? /watch?v=c-M1cxcqgsg
2009korte 1 month ago
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limwang75 1 month ago
It's really hard to take some guy serious who is sporting a fucking Hitler moustache...WTF???!!!!
superhornet69 1 month ago
Only media brainwashed people. The reforms in Hingary are not good for the Bansters and globalists and military industrial complex. We want this kind of reforms in the USA.
PolishAmericanDC 1 month ago
@PolishAmericanDC so you want reforms that makes it illegal for homeless people to live in the streets? SCREW YOU!
Vogter616 1 month ago
Hungary, are you going dictatorship? Again...?
atemlos2585 1 month ago 2
they look hungary for more...
3108711289 1 month ago
@3108711289
You pulled off a pun there. Never heard that before.
d3st88 1 month ago
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13:16 Disgusting gypsies!!! Shoot them!
SimontheSorceror 1 month ago
@SimontheSorceror bigoted, unnecessary, unneeded.
TubaGlider2 1 month ago
“Many of those protesting here voted for Viktor Orban's party, but they are now disappointed.”
Then vote better next time. This is a democracy, the electorate bears the responsibility for whom they elect into office.
PPAChao 1 month ago 2
I am hungarian, but I really dont understand the people around me. Gyurcsany prime minister was not good enough, Orban prime minister is not good enough, so WTF do these people want? They are just not satisfied with anything.
Chancey871 1 month ago
as a Hungarian I'd like to thank Journeyman Pictures for making this video. It's a very balanced overview of the situation, a much needed clarity and perspective.
szabi76 1 month ago 12
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Indeed. Hopefully it adds to the international pressure againt our current government.
d3st88 1 month ago
Governments should be running a surplus during good times and deficits during bad but it takes discipline.
Delta4ms 1 month ago
the socialists were worse...
koko77732 1 month ago
@koko77732 i agree
Lethesys 1 month ago
@koko77732
Exactly how? You are speaking out of irrational hatred, not out of an objective perspective. The previous government was corrupt as fuck, but not any more corrupt than our current government, but more importantly, they did little to butcher our rights, our democracy and freedoms, while Orbán and his merry band went nuclear on them.
d3st88 1 month ago
@d3st88 Well, I know, Fidesz is really fucked up, but socialists has spent more money, than what the state had, so, literally there was(is) money flowing out everywhere of the system, the Fidesz said, that they would solve every problem, what the socialists has caused, but now they're doing a lot of things what are nonsense. I think they're liars as well. But socialists has caused such a big damage, that It's almost unfixable(if you are thinking as an optimist)
koko77732 1 month ago
27:15 "peaceful demonstrators" who almost burned the building of the Hungarian Television, throwing molotov cocktails to the building and the police, or the mob encouraged by Orbán at Kossuth tér ("My dear friends, we cannot let these liars rule the country, we have to do EVERYTHING to break the Gyurcsány government!")? Actually it's the same, and after they had their little "revolution" our beloved pm just turned away ("This is not the way the things should be done!").
shredo2 1 month ago
Sounds like the United States now. Congress, Senate, and the President passed and signed a law to allow the military to detain and arrest citizens accused of terrorism without trial.
agumon12 1 month ago 2
at least they make the banks pay and not the people unlike other european countries
FightForKissesTR 1 month ago
@FightForKissesTR
Incorrect. As the report mentioned, while those banks do pay more, taxes have been raised and the lower and middle class is now paying MUCH more. Keep in mind that the average Hungarian earns 854 USD a month! BEFORE TAXES! Taxes take away about 50% of our wages. Do the math. The minimum wage was just raised to 380 USD/month before taxes.
d3st88 1 month ago
@d3st88 didn't it say that it only takes 20% of income as taxes? Because 20% is very little. I live in Austria and we pay 50-60%..
FightForKissesTR 1 month ago
@FightForKissesTR
I'm not familiar with the Austrian tax system. "Income Tax" is just one of the income taxes here. Various other taxes get deducted from your salary. The new income tax favoured the wealthy and the top middle class and made everyone lower pay more. Salary-wise, I'm above average and I lose about 50% of my wage as taxes. +My employer pays a lot of further taxes after me.
d3st88 1 month ago
Looks like the Hungarian Govt has set up the tools to totally control the media. It remains to be seen when it will exercise this power.
The trouble with changing the constitution to suit your own ideology is that you don't know how it will be used. Perhaps this government wont exercise the absolute power they are building up but the next one will, or the one after that, and maybe they will be more inclined to extermism. What if Jobbik gets in?
I live in Romania where the situation is better
rupertwolfemurray 1 month ago
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The moment jobbik establishes a government is the moment you should nuke us back to the stone age.
d3st88 1 month ago
@rupertwolfemurray
There were quite a lot of atrocities on the freedom of our media. For example, one popular website that parodized the government controlled public broadcasting TV network has just been shut down today and their owners were threatened with jailtime.
d3st88 1 month ago
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Vote Ron Paul.
Stevie68000 1 month ago
I hope to see Poland and Hungary away from Sov.... sorry, European Union - this f***ing sinking experiment, attempt to create IV Reich. Instead of this, maybe some kind of central-europe alliance, like Visegrád Group, with free-trade zone and without any socialist scumbag messing around.
Lengyel, Magyar – két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát
XvallorX 1 month ago 5
@XvallorX Nobody has a problem if you leave , better today than tomorow , funny your country gets billons of Euro and also billons of investments from the oh so bad Germans ,btw your country is full of rasist stupid idiots like you .
Stranskii 1 month ago
@Stranskii First of all, in what way my comment or I am racist? Is this all you can say?
About money, it is not like European Rei... sorry Union are giving money like charity. They give, and demand - obedience, giving up on some part of independence, law making outside of my country. Look at the countries, which gets most of Eu founds before 2004 - Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Greece. Do you get the picture now? And beside this, most investments are not from Eu but FDI outside Europe.
XvallorX 1 month ago
@XvallorX
The solution is revolution and the reconstitution of society precisely along the lines V. I. Lenin laid out.
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 "Country:Sweden" - seems like you are just another posh kid, believing in bullshit told by lenin and confirmed by stalin, knowing nothing about living under soviet shoe. Socialism and his younger brother communism are the most stupid and devastating political systems on earth. The solution my friend is to give people freedom and cut government interruption in every aspect of our life as much as possible - which is exactly opposite to what you want. Red is dead.
XvallorX 1 month ago
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@XvallorX
You stupid Slav! You think it's a workers paradise in Sweden? The Slavs never had it so good as when J. V. Stalin was managing the Soviet Union and supervising the leaders of other Slavic countries. BTW If J. V. Stalin was so bad, I sincerely hope you are in favor of granting the German lands he (deservedly) gave to Poland back to Germany.
Anyway, we all know Poles who denounce J. V. Stalin suffer from extreme self-loathing as J. V. Stalin did save Poles from extinction!
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 So true - Stalin saved Poles from extinction, like the 40 thousand he killed (he personally signed orders to kill) in Smolensk forest. So true - Stalin gave us lands on west, but how about or eastern border he took? Please kid, don't wave affront of me with red flag. Save your B$ to some other comrades. Waste of time speaking with you. Learn some history first, ask some people, who lived in such times and in such countries before writing such science-fiction comments. oi
XvallorX 1 month ago
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reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007
Stupid Slav! Nazis killed those Polish officers but Soviets would have had the right due to 100000 revolutionary soldiers died in Polish captivity after Poland's cowardly attack and occupation of western Ukraine, that J. V. Stalin liberated in 1939. Poles like you make me think J. V. Stalin should have stopped at the frontier and let German capitalism carry out it's plans for Poles or at least incorporate those German lands into the USSR rather than grant them to Poland!
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 At the moment kid, you are being incredibly racist (just like any other commie), and I don't want to talk with such moron. Please, learn proper history, and don't try on me soviet propaganda. In fact, I suggest you should emigrate to DPRK, and spread revolution there. You will see, how wonderful it is. End of discussion.
XvallorX 1 month ago
@XvallorX
>you are being incredibly racist
WTF are you raving about, you stupid Slav?! Is calling a Slav "a Slav" racist????
Now it all makes sense! You suffer from extreme self loathing and thus, hate the Soviet Union. Regardless, thanks to J. V. Stalin and Russian Slavs for saving Poles from likely extinction. And BTW if you don't want to hear the truth, and I know you don't, don't make stupid statements on the basis that the person you are making them to doesn't know the truth!
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 Your speech is full of lies, stupidity and ignorance. Go live your pathetic life, and spread your bullshit to some other.
XvallorX 1 month ago
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@XvallorX
Stupid Slav! Be so kind as to point out "my lies"? Did Poland not cowardly attack the revolutionary republic while it was fighting off the invasion(s) of all the major capitalist powers and occupy western Ukraine? Were they not the lands J. V. Stalin liberated in 1939? Did J. V. Stalin, the Soviet Union, Red Army and Russian Slavs not save Polish Slavs from likely extinction at the hands of German capitalism? What are my lies you stupid, lying, self-loathing Slav?????
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 Nope. Goodbye.
XvallorX 1 month ago
@XvallorX
LOL Let this be a lesson to you. Don't make stupid comments which you know are not true on the basis that the person you are making them to doesn't know the truth. It only makes you look not only a stupid Slav but somewhat mentally ill. And henceforth I order you to demand Poland return the German lands J. V. Stalin granted to Poland to Germany if you are going to continue to talk s**t about J. V. Stalin and the Soviet Union! And see someone about you self-loathing as well!
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 I apologize. Poland indeed killed 10 millions Soviet prisoners in 1919-1921. Smolensk massacre was made not by Soviets, but Paraguayans. Big Starvation on Ukraine was not caused by Soviet policy, but sabotage of Hungarian terrorists. Great Purge cleaned only guilty people, and people were going to Gulag's on vacation. Forgive me, I just believe in free market and freedom of the nations, don't waste such wisdom words here, and spread the revolution in your kindergarten.
XvallorX 1 month ago
@XvallorX
LOL So that is how you respond to the "FACTS" I outlined? Did I tell you before that you are a very stupid Slav?
It's annoying that you are so stupid as to talk about "being free" despite the vagueness of it. Be so kind as to outline exactly what "freedom" is? How is it determined if one is "free" or not? Free market capitalism existed everywhere 100 years ago but certainly the vast majority of nations and vast majority of the population of nations weren't "free".
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 Those aren't facts, but science fiction man. As I told before, learn history before saying some stupid shit. Denying Soviet genocide on Poles is incredibly offending, especially to people, whom family members were killed by Soviet (your hero Stalin signed direct order).
XvallorX 1 month ago
@XvallorX
Stop lying you wretched Slav! When did what is now western Ukraine become part of Poland? Were the majority of the population Polish at that time? Was the Revolutionary Republic fighting off the invasion of Japan, France, UK and USA (among several smaller countries)? When did J. V. Stalin liberate those lands? Why wasn't German capitalism able to carry out it's self-stated plans to rid Poland of Poles? Who granted the German lands in now western Poland to Poland?
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 hey i am pretty sure that it is possible to argue without being rude, what you called XvallorX was disrespectful and rude. there is no need
Rienneil 1 month ago in playlist Hungary
@Rienneil
Why was I disrespectful and rude? Because I called him/her stupid? Well he/she made comments to me, which he/she knows are not true on the basis that I didn't know the truth. He/she was disrespectful and rude to me for thinking I am a moron who doesn't know the truth.
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 Well trolling and racist comment considered rude last time i checked and what I do not know who you are, but what he said to him was racist and out of order. if you do not realise what you do is racist rude and disrespectful then all i say i pitty you, and yes kind of makes you look silly. He was arguing fine you called him all kinds, that is not the way to argue. he made points you made points and racist comments. Then you said its not racist, well sorry check racism in dictionary
Rienneil 1 month ago 2
@Rienneil
Hmmm this comment annoyed me actually. I found it very racist. On what basis can someone from England insult Slavs? Everyone knows about Slavs. They are strong and fight well, are very smart and outstanding athletes. The women are generally exceptionally beautiful but at the same time they are friendly and outward looking. K. K. Rokossovsky and F. E. Dzerzhinsky were both great Polish Slavs and of course **V. I. Lenin himself was a Slav!** What about the UK? LOL
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 Please quate from my comment which bit was racist?
Rienneil 1 month ago
@Rienneil
Very simple and don't play innocent! To lecture me about "racist comments" when the only reference to a race or ethnic group I made was to call a Slav, "a Slav" is a flagrant insult to Slavs!
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 Wow so i guess my point is proven nothing i said was racist, you on the ohter hand were proved all your hatful horrid comments regarding fellow human beings, you might not used to people who tell you are wrong when you are wrong. i think you owe an appologie for the guy who are youn insulted and made racist comments about, and me for calling me racist bacause i think you and INDIVIDUALY YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER. making comment about people etnicity is racist therefore YOU ARE RACIST
Rienneil 1 month ago
@Rienneil
"Wow" you want to push on with this? I have a high opinion of Slavs and thus, I take it as a personal insult anyone, much less one from UK, would call me "racist" because I had the audacity to call a Slav "a Slav". I request you retract your hateful comments. After all, I have been to most of the Slavic countries and the local Slavs think I am one of them. This makes me feel happy but you are seriously tempting me to make some really racist comments though, not anti-Slavic!
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 then you shouldnt talk like that, it is not just me who thoght you were racist, and yes making negativ comment about someone and including in the sentence his or her race is RACIST.
you can take however you want to i am not going to sit back and read racist comment, because it is not right, and really do not care what is your opinion to me, or the UK.
FYI my comment are not hateful just not appritiating racism is not being hateful.
Rienneil 1 month ago
@Rienneil
God have mercy...................... I'm already bored with this. FYI Slavs are not a race, they are an ethnic group part of the Caucasian race.
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 i can see you not very good admiting when you were wrong. So i guess for you then it was ok so call him on names, wasnt it???? and then tell me it was not racist and was not rude what was it? nice? if you are bored of this maybe you should not talk like that to people? what is wrong you not used to people telling you that you be wrong?
Rienneil 1 month ago
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reyter2007 1 month ago
@Rienneil
Not good at admitting I'm wrong? Of course, you are right. Slavs are in fact a race rather than an ethnic group and part of the Caucasian race.
If I want to denounce a Slav for making stupid, (if not outright lies) anti Polish comments I will do so and neither need or want your permission to do it!
I am of the same race as Slavs and thus, for me to make racist comments about Slavs would be making racist comments about myself. Can you fathom that?
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 yes i do, but perhaps you should think before you talk and i do not think you comments were apropritate, they were racist i have to insist on that, regardless who you are, how you talked to him was out oof order, you are right you do not need my premission to be rude or racist neither i do to tell you to stop it and i have a feeling if more people would tell you so you would not feel so up for rants and racist comments.
Rienneil 1 month ago
@Rienneil
"Yes you do" what? Still think Slavs are a race rather than an ethnic group of the Caucasian race?
To be perfectly honest, your messages have gone from annoying, to tiresome to funny by now.
I don't care in the slightest "what you think" or "what you insist" and you may not "tell me" anything! If I'm in any kind of exchange with a Slav you should learn your place and not try and interfere where it isn't wanted or needed by either party.
reyter2007 1 month ago
@XvallorX
The great sacrifices we made in the name of the freedom and independence of our Motherland, the incalculable privations and sufferings experienced by our people in the course of the war, the intense work in the rear and at the front, have not been in vain, and have been crowned by complete victory. The age-long struggle of the Slavic peoples for their existence has ended in complete victory over the invaders and German tyranny.
J. V. Stalin: Victory Speech May 9, 1945
reyter2007 1 month ago
@XvallorX
J. V. Stalin: Replies to Questions put by Mr. Hugh Baillie, President of the U. P. of America October 28, 1946
Q 18 (H. Baillie): In the United States there is some debate about the Western frontiers of Poland. Does the Soviet Union regard the Western frontiers of Poland permanent?
A (J. V. Stalin): Yes, it does. Next question.
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 why do you insult ,please no good
kiwiblinks 1 month ago
@kiwiblinks
I did not insult! The Slav insulted me by presuming I didn't know the truth about the facts I described and insulted all Polish people by slandering the man [J. V. Stalin] and state [the Soviet Union] that saved Poles from likely extinction at the hands of German capitalism!
reyter2007 1 month ago
@XvallorX
J. V. Stalin: Telegram to the Slavic Congress Reunion in Belgrade
December 8, 1946
I greet the participants of the first Slavic Congress since the war, the representatives of the peace-loving Slavic peoples. I am sure that the Slavic Congress will contribute to and deeply strengthen the friendship and fraternal solidarity of the Slavic peoples and will serve the cause of the development of democracy and the consolidation of peace between the peoples.
reyter2007 1 month ago
@reyter2007 you do not even notive how racist how you write and how you talk about fallow humans, so i m gonna stop arguing with you you are a sad person and clearly waste of time and energy. i pitty you. bye
Rienneil 1 month ago
@Rienneil
To accuse me of denouncing one simply because he or she is a Slav, I take offense because I have a high opinion of them. To accuse me of denouncing one because he or she is British.... well I have a friend from there but 90% who I cross paths with I find intensely annoying. A lot of them give the impression that they deem themselves superior because they are British which I find utterly astonishing! They are deranged! Anyway, I guess I will have to plead guilty to that. Bye.
reyter2007 1 month ago
how the hell do you arrest homeless people, it is your job to create jobs as a politician not just lock those up who don´t have a job
behinddacurtain 1 month ago
@behinddacurtain What? :D
"it is your job to create jobs as a politician"
It is not a politician task. They should keep taxes for companies as low as possible, throw away bureaucracy, make law simple and that's about it. People are creating jobs - through foreign investments or some domestic companies. So, keep taxes low, dont spend money on social security, make health and education system private and everyone would see some progress.
XvallorX 1 month ago
Hungary has maybe the strongest and most present right wing party in Europe, and not only that they are very brutal against romas, it is very sad what happens
behinddacurtain 1 month ago
@behinddacurtain
Not just gipsies, but the average right winger also hates gays, liberals, socialists, jews, is fond of nazi slogens and ideas, is convinced that jews are trying to destroy the country and the world with their money and evil conspiracy and so on. IT IS MADNESS.
d3st88 1 month ago
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@behinddacurtain
Not just gipsies, but the average right winger also hates gays, liberals, socialists, jews, is fond of nazi slogens and ideas, is convinced that jews are trying to destroy the country and the world with their money and evil conspiracy and so on. IT IS MADNESS.
d3st88 1 month ago
"free speech" ugh thats so 1900's hehe
curiouscrutiny 1 month ago
and lmao at that dudes moustache
neiljamesmacdonald 1 month ago 2
that tunes pretty funky even tho i cant understand it lol
neiljamesmacdonald 1 month ago
im so tired of the human farmers..i wish people would wake up
curiouscrutiny 1 month ago
04:23 My goodness, that is an unfortunate moustache. Didn't he get the memo that the Charlie Chaplin moustache has become a bit inappropriate after a 'certain' historical figure?
Krifko 1 month ago 14