ROFL my dad used to have some of these, he'd always light them on the concrete floor. Sometimes one would have a fit and throw big yellow flames giving him a bad hair day :-) I think you're doing better having them on a table so you don't have your head above them!
The problem is it 's a bit windy and cool. This torch has no hood to keep the heat on the burner head like the 308. And I am trying to do too many things at once lol.
Your Detroit has a bent neck but don't try and fix that you could end up creating a stress crack.
Do not use leather to fix check valves use Neoprene, Vitron or Cork. I can tell from your video you are using camping fuel not gasoline this is easier on rubber but be sure you are using the correct matrial.
They are pretty torches...they look vintage, when in the times where to build quality...gasoline is mad hot in these torches. Large bores on them for a hand held torch, I dare say!
Well I will stick to propane. I can almost feel my knuckels being cinged while you adjust fuel to air ratio. These seem very fussy and petrol has a lot more carbon by weight than the bottled gases propane and butane. The carbon can build up and cause problems
The preway has no hood in this video and the sligt breaze is just enough to make preheating difficult. But if you watch the clayton and lambert to the right. its much less tempermental. Had I put all my effort into starting one or the other and not shifting my attension so much I could have one up and running in about a minut and a half.
As for the carbon build up yes its an issue. They require cleaning from time to time. Not much...
I remember seeing these in the basement in our house in Chicago in the 50's. I think my Dad used them to thaw frozen pipes in the winter. I also remember seeing plumbers melt lead in small pots for some old timey plumbing task.
Sometimes theywill burn better with a bit of ethanol in the tank. I fyour gas jet is worn out then you will need to add ethanol or methanol to lean up the mixture.
Just don't leave any of that fuel in the tank when done. The alcohols will cause corrosion so empty them and rinse it out with some WD 40 to remove any residaul fuel and water.
@juanoporras mine a otto bernz was plugged up at the rock filter . no fear.. i fuled it up e85 is cheaper punped it a few . next i appled heat via, accetalyne / oxy cutting torch . to the bottom transfer tube area. then lit it off. i let it run and it did. next i apllyed oxy torch
to the out side barrel "cleaning the impurites out as it ran. if you want it to run , pump it up a couple times a year and open valve . or heck repeate above
@silverbird58 if you follow the above advice it will work good "once" .. since then i put a brass adapter on my grease gun and took out the closest screw and jacked out the crud with hydro grease pressure . works way better since most out here don't own a big torch ...
Just take it apart and clean out the passages with a drill bit. Its only soft carbon. You should comletely strip them anyhow to clean the fuel pick up and replace the wick
Do not use brake cleaner or any chlorinated solvents. These create an acid that attacks the brass ANY is left in the fuel system and burned,
You can build enough preseure to do some serious damage, becareful.
I use these things regularly no issues with them. I sill use gasoline but camping fuel is better with less cleaning needed. I might clean them once a year at most.
I do have opne with a clogging problem but I suped it up. Created my own problem lol
Its not a probelm if you are just lighting gone torch and there is no wind. The one thats the hardest to light in the video I use quite a bit. I seldom use Propane
They not only work, but they work for a living....
A staic display piece is a dead thing so all my collection works even if they need to be modified to function again.
Now the wife will have a bird if she catches you using your new 70 year old gas blow torch for plumbing in her home. Be warned lol
I flip flop between the Preway 45, the C&L 308 and C&L158A { C&L 158 will have its own video some day along with my new Monitor parafin torch } as for my prefered front line torch.
Nice torches...I just recently bought one at a flea market, looks to be complete. Don't know what kind it is...No markings what so ever. But same shape/style brass bottom, but are they fueled with regular pump gasoline, or what?
Yes that Preway is a little more difficult in the wind. Something I plane to adress next time its stripped for cleaning. I'll make a new steel baffle to cover the top and replace the missing iron hook on top
hello please anwser my question can the blow torch blow up ?
randybolhuis1 1 month ago
@randybolhuis1
No, but they sometimes have leaks in the pump and with age they may have cracks in the tank.
If in doubt don't use it.
But no they don't explode
northerbrewer 1 month ago
ROFL my dad used to have some of these, he'd always light them on the concrete floor. Sometimes one would have a fit and throw big yellow flames giving him a bad hair day :-) I think you're doing better having them on a table so you don't have your head above them!
castirondude 1 year ago
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TheKirbot 1 year ago
Nice torches, but what was the problem with the Preway?
Just fill the preheater all the way, and leave it alone.
You shouldn't have to keep spraying more gas like that.
See my video, Lighting a "Detroit Torch & Mfg. Co." Gasoline BlowTorch"
TheKirbot 1 year ago
@TheKirbot
The problem is it 's a bit windy and cool. This torch has no hood to keep the heat on the burner head like the 308. And I am trying to do too many things at once lol.
Your Detroit has a bent neck but don't try and fix that you could end up creating a stress crack.
Do not use leather to fix check valves use Neoprene, Vitron or Cork. I can tell from your video you are using camping fuel not gasoline this is easier on rubber but be sure you are using the correct matrial.
northerbrewer 1 year ago
They are pretty torches...they look vintage, when in the times where to build quality...gasoline is mad hot in these torches. Large bores on them for a hand held torch, I dare say!
hardhitter0421 1 year ago
@hardhitter0421
Yes they can out perform a propane torch bloody near hot enough to braze in some cases ( but won't oxidising flame )
northerbrewer 1 year ago
nice video, but my blow torch doesnt have a flash pan, but the tank has a indent is this were i heat the nozle with some gasoline?
anthacdc 1 year ago
Well I will stick to propane. I can almost feel my knuckels being cinged while you adjust fuel to air ratio. These seem very fussy and petrol has a lot more carbon by weight than the bottled gases propane and butane. The carbon can build up and cause problems
j822bosh 1 year ago
@j822bosh
They are fussy lol, that is part of the charm.
The preway has no hood in this video and the sligt breaze is just enough to make preheating difficult. But if you watch the clayton and lambert to the right. its much less tempermental. Had I put all my effort into starting one or the other and not shifting my attension so much I could have one up and running in about a minut and a half.
As for the carbon build up yes its an issue. They require cleaning from time to time. Not much...
northerbrewer 1 year ago
I remember seeing these in the basement in our house in Chicago in the 50's. I think my Dad used them to thaw frozen pipes in the winter. I also remember seeing plumbers melt lead in small pots for some old timey plumbing task.
rayunseitig 1 year ago
Thanks a lot for sharing!!!
Yesterday I got mine for 10 bucks!!! it's a craftsman.. I just love vintage stuff. :D
I have one question, I know that they work on white gasoline (AKA naphtha, AKA Drip gas. etc) but is it possible to use them with normal gasoline?
what are the pros and cons?
thanks a lot!
juanoporras 2 years ago
Yes thats what these are burning regular pump gas. You just have to clean them more often....
Be careful and careful test and inspect it before fueling and firing.
northerbrewer 2 years ago
@juanoporras i run mine last night in E85 sour mash /gas pretty flame
silverbird58 2 years ago
Sometimes theywill burn better with a bit of ethanol in the tank. I fyour gas jet is worn out then you will need to add ethanol or methanol to lean up the mixture.
Just don't leave any of that fuel in the tank when done. The alcohols will cause corrosion so empty them and rinse it out with some WD 40 to remove any residaul fuel and water.
northerbrewer 2 years ago
@juanoporras mine a otto bernz was plugged up at the rock filter . no fear.. i fuled it up e85 is cheaper punped it a few . next i appled heat via, accetalyne / oxy cutting torch . to the bottom transfer tube area. then lit it off. i let it run and it did. next i apllyed oxy torch
to the out side barrel "cleaning the impurites out as it ran. if you want it to run , pump it up a couple times a year and open valve . or heck repeate above
silverbird58 2 years ago
@silverbird58 if you follow the above advice it will work good "once" .. since then i put a brass adapter on my grease gun and took out the closest screw and jacked out the crud with hydro grease pressure . works way better since most out here don't own a big torch ...
silverbird58 2 years ago
Just take it apart and clean out the passages with a drill bit. Its only soft carbon. You should comletely strip them anyhow to clean the fuel pick up and replace the wick
Do not use brake cleaner or any chlorinated solvents. These create an acid that attacks the brass ANY is left in the fuel system and burned,
northerbrewer 2 years ago
@silverbird58
You can build enough preseure to do some serious damage, becareful.
I use these things regularly no issues with them. I sill use gasoline but camping fuel is better with less cleaning needed. I might clean them once a year at most.
I do have opne with a clogging problem but I suped it up. Created my own problem lol
northerbrewer 1 year ago
@juanoporras accetelenne is going up i use my old blowtorch more
silverbird58 2 years ago
Most people are suprisd by the performance of a gasoline torch.
You can under the right conditions braze with one fo these...
northerbrewer 2 years ago
Just use the "on" one to warm up the other one.
monkeyboy4746 2 years ago
Well that would be cheating lol.
Its not a probelm if you are just lighting gone torch and there is no wind. The one thats the hardest to light in the video I use quite a bit. I seldom use Propane
northerbrewer 2 years ago
HAIL SATAN
FarmerNinja 2 years ago
What ever floats your boat buddy lol
northerbrewer 2 years ago
I think that is where he bought them, Satan Hardware Inc.
monkeyboy4746 2 years ago
what amazing examples of engenering they are working art
themadscientest 2 years ago
They not only work, but they work for a living....
A staic display piece is a dead thing so all my collection works even if they need to be modified to function again.
Now the wife will have a bird if she catches you using your new 70 year old gas blow torch for plumbing in her home. Be warned lol
I flip flop between the Preway 45, the C&L 308 and C&L158A { C&L 158 will have its own video some day along with my new Monitor parafin torch } as for my prefered front line torch.
northerbrewer 2 years ago
But what kind of fuel do they use? Gas, Kerosene or what? Can ya help me out a litte bit more? Where can I find information on these things?
ovrxpoz 2 years ago
Some use gasoline some use Kerosene these two are gasoline
for more information look up blow torch collecting on a search engine
northerbrewer 2 years ago
Nice torches...I just recently bought one at a flea market, looks to be complete. Don't know what kind it is...No markings what so ever. But same shape/style brass bottom, but are they fueled with regular pump gasoline, or what?
ovrxpoz 2 years ago
That's a Preway 45.
It had a black plastic nob but I dropped it and had to make a replacement.
The 45 was sold as store brand for many chains in the USA like true value hardware
northerbrewer 2 years ago
Very nice, but one of them was a bit hard to start up. Noticed your post on "förgasarföreningen".
Good luck and best wishes!
nissehult35b 3 years ago
Yes that Preway is a little more difficult in the wind. Something I plane to adress next time its stripped for cleaning. I'll make a new steel baffle to cover the top and replace the missing iron hook on top
northerbrewer 3 years ago
Yes it was not the best place to set them up.
The saw horses were a little wobly and camera was not sitting on a very good rest.
Next time I'll fire all them up on a concrete pad and put the camera on a tripod.
northerbrewer 3 years ago
That's a great pair of torches you have there. I just love the noise these things make when they're going.
I thought the whole lot wash going over at 3:17! Ooh. What to catch? Camera or blowtorch!
mowerofdoom 3 years ago