The meaning of tasawwuf

[ukaragen]

Tidak ada tasauf maka tidak ada Islam?Nabi s.a.w ketua sufi?.....betul ke?

[azamwur8428]

Proses tarbiyyah keimanan mazhab tasawwuf/tariqah adalah berasaskan dgn amalan berzikrullah dan bertahanuth/beruzlah untuk mencapai kesempurnaan hati..

bukan dgn byk berbicara (kuliah) sbb itu hanya akal semata2 tidak akan menembusi hati... Sesungguhnya hati itu tenang dengan berzikrullah bukan dgn berfikir..

[chucksaddict]

Kalau betul dia ni tarekat kenapa dia berperangai macam ni?Langsung tidak menunjukkan sebagai seorang ahli sufi.NI apa lak sesat masuk tassawuf ngan politik lak ni?

[chucksaddict]

Kalau betul dia ni tarekat kenapa dia berperangai macam ni?Langsung tidak menunjukkan sebagai seorang ahli sufi

[vcdilmu]

@chucksaddict boleh tuan huraikan apa maksud 'perangai macam ni?'

[alfulani5]

Sufism is from Hindooism.

No sahaba was a Sufi!!

Sufism got nothing to do with Islam.

[RajaSolo7Lautan]

tah... rasa x pelik pon. jgn la samakan diorg ngan kita. sehari sekali nak baca quran pon liat sampai lidah jd keras, para aulia dlu hari2 baca quran. lidah diorg lembut, sebutan dah tntu jelas. sama jgk dgn bekerja, ada thp permulaan, separuh mahir, mahir... jgn la heran kalo pkerja mahir boleh siapkan kerja jauh lg cepar dr pkerja sparuh mahir walaupon hasil pekerjaan tu sama bagus... baca al-quran bkn mcm baca novel, sebutan ko kena jelas dan betul, kalo x .. jadi lain maksud dia nnt...

[mumtaz09]

nak berhujah untuk mencari kebenaran.. bukan berhujah untuk menang dengan keegoan..

[ukaragen]

Mana ada Jibrail tanya pasal tasauf dlm hadis tu?Yg ke 4 Jibril tanya pasal kiamat.

[manmoncang]

Saudara @ukaragen

Tasawwuf adalah ilmu yang menekankan rohani dan akhlak seseorang agar menjadi manusia yang setiap saatnya mengingati Allah. Mengingati Allah, sedar akan Allah.... inilah Ihsan. Semoga kita meningkatkan ilmu kita agar kita memahami tentang agama kita sendiri lalu sedar akan Allah SWT.

Makanya benar apa yang diterangkan Oleh Ustaz Nik Aziz dengan mengatakan Jibrail tanya pasal tasauf iaitu tentang Ihsan.

[manmoncang]

@ukaragen

Tasawwuf adalah ilmu yang menekankan rohani dan akhlak seseorang agar menjadi manusia yang setiap saatnya mengingati Allah. Mengingati Allah, sedar akan Allah.... inilah Ihsan. Semoga kita meningkatkan ilmu kita agar kita memahami tentang agama kita sendiri lalu sedar akan Allah SWT.

Makanya benar apa yang diterangkan Oleh Ustaz Nik Aziz dengan mengatakan Jibrail tanya pasal tasauf iaitu tentang Ihsan.

[ukaragen]

@manmoncang Dengar betul2 ceramah tu...nik aziz kata Jibril tanya 4 perkara..1.apa itu Islam..2.apa itu iman..3.apa itu ehsan dan ke 4 nik aziz kata Jibril tanya pasal tasauf...yg ke 4 tu memang tak betul sbb yg ke 4 Jibril tanya pasal kiamat bukan pasal tasauf...

Tak tau lah sbb apa nik aziz dah ubah hadis tu...

[e7eym]

@ukaragen berhati-hati dengan lisan. dgr btul apa tokguru sebut. yang ke-4 bukan tok guru sebut tasauf tapi al-saah (maknanya hari kiamat dlm melayu). tok guru tak ubah pun hadis tu cuma anta silap dengar. wallahualam

[kelmarin82]

serabut eh...dok main dgn mic ni...

[RTM1KL]

Saya cabar kepada Anda semua bawakan satu hadist yg membenarkan zkir beramai2 dengan kepala dilenggok-lenggokkan .

Harap sahabat2 tidak menyimpan hadist tersebut kerana akan mendapat laknat Allah.

Pastikan hadist sahih bukan daif atau rekaan semata-mata.

[angnila]

sy pn nk tanya shabat jgk, adakah hadis yg benar2 sahih melarang berzikir beramai2 dan kepala di gerakkan, tp bkn sy mencabar saudara, cuma mahu menambah pengetahuan di dada, terima kasih

[RTM1KL]

Allah melantik para Rasul sebagai pedoman kepada manusia didalam memahami tauhid,ibadah dan akhlak.

Ikutilah sahaja apa yg Rasululullah ajarkan didalam ibadah.Sekiranya Rasulullah tidak melakukan ibadah zikir dgn cara bising dan melenggok2kan kepala maka jangan lah kita buat semata2 kita ingin melakukan sama seperti ibadahnya org2 Yahudi.

Jangan lupa baca buku imam Syafie berkenaan Tamayyul kerana Imam mazhab kita melarangnya cuma kebodohan kita tmenjadi ego seperti syaitan.

[ukaragen]

angnila...ibadah dalam Islam mesti berpandu kpd 2 perkara:

1. Ikhlas kerana Allah dan

2. Ada contoh dari Nabi s.a.w.

Boleh kah sesiapa yg rasa nak beribadah lebih lalu dia lakukan solat subuh 4 rakaat kemudian kalu org kata salah,dia tanya: mana ada hadis yg melarang?Tentu tak ada kan?jadi boleh lah dia solat subuh 4 rakaat.Kenapa kita solat subuh 2 rakaat?Sebab itulah yg dicontoh dari Nabi s.a.w.

Rasulallah dah ajar cara dan lafaz zikir,ikut aje lah jgn nak tambah.

[angnila]

bila masa plak sy kata ibadah ikut suka hati, buat kerana terpaksa

[putrakick7]

saya pun cabar anda bw kan satu hadist yg tidak membenarkan zikir beramai2 dgn kepala yg dilenggok2kan...kalau tgk di mana2 masjid2 pun ketika zikir kepala mengeleng kiri kanan..kenapa??

[MrPRINCEAL]

assalamualaikum buat raja solo

ilmu anda masih nipis. maaf jika silap. mmg apa yg ada pd Rasulullah SAW lengkap. tp bukankah juga Rasulullah SAW menyatakan bahawa ikutlah khulafa ur-rasyidin (yakni abu bakr r.a., umar r.a., uthman r.a., dan ali. r.a), dan Nabi al-Musthofa Muhamma SAW juga menyatakan i alam hadith baginda bahawa " al-ulama' u warathatul anbiya' " yang brmaksud ulama itu pewaris para Nabi.

[RajaSolo7Lautan]

@MrPRINCEAL bukan nipis tp terlalu nipis... itu yg saudara silap.. sbb itu sy sentiasa membetulkan diri dan sentiasa membuka hati dan menerima pendapat org lain... mmg ulama itu pewaris nabi tp saudara juga kena ingt cabang ilmu itu luas, pendpat sntiasa bercanggah dan boleh membawa kpd kesesatan... dan rasullullah prnh berpesan, seandainya kamu berada dlm kesesatan, berbaliklah kpd alquran dan sunnah...

[RajaSolo7Lautan]

kalo berzikir ramai, dok elok2, sebutan jelas takpe la.. ni kalo berzikir sampai head bangin, sebut pon hu hu hu.. apa kehe tu..kan ke dah sama mcm g konsert children of bodom... setau ak ibadat goyang2 smpai head bangin ni cara ibadat yahudi.. wallahualam.. bila memuji2 allah kan elok disebut elok2.. biar jelas ditelinga barulah meresap dlm hati.. :)

[haziq8haikal]

zikir tu bukan nak kejar makam lah, Raja Solo. Zikir tu jalan nak dapatkan makam.... walau berjuta zikir pun belum tentu dapat capai makam tu.... saya rasa rajasolo kena tanya dengan guru yang afdhal ... untuk menambah ilmu tentang tu... bukan apa saya takut ia boleh menyebabkan fitnah.....

[shariati111]

Sekretariat tak ada hormat pada Tok Guru kah...tu tok Guru, menteri besar Kelantan....microfonpun tak boleh sediakan dengan betul...

[zakuk77]

Being influenced by greek and roman philophy, early sufism took on a lot of their concepts inc. intermediaries (like being a qutb or an abdal etc) - bringing these ideas into Islam had a detrimental affect on some sections of the Ummah.

also se: tinyurl . com / ybzlvxe

[edmoad]

For myself, I will read the books on the matter, rather than depend on the internet.

[zakuk77]

I previously mentioned the issue of isnad to make a point that everything in Islam must be proven before they can be accepted and acted upon. This proof lies in the Qur'an and the Sunnah and how these primary sources of Islam were understood and applied by the Prophet (SAW) and the first 3 generation of Muslims. Sufis don't resort to these primary references because they believe there is no need for hadeeth (quran doesnt hold much weight either) as they claim god speaks directly to their hearts.

[edmoad]

Sufis believe there is no need for hadeeth and Qur'an?! Did you actually read Ihya ulum al-Din or any book by al-Ghazali? In Munqidh min al-Dalal, he writes that God speaks directly to the sufi's heart, and tells him to follow the Qur'an and Sunnah. By contrast, your nafs speaks directly to your heart, and tells you to accuse other Muslims of rejecting Qur'an and Sunnah.

[zakuk77]

I think you have a very skewed view of IUD. Here is something that you should make yourself aware of:

tinyurl . com / yawwtf9

IUD is NOT a primary source of Islam, rather it was written during the period of his life where he was in a limbo; between sufi heresy based on the philosophy of ibn sina and concepts of fana and obliteration, to the truth of Ahlus Sunnah.

[edmoad]

I have not expressed any view of IUD. But before, you expressed the claim that the Ahl al Sunnah accept IUD. Now, you have referred to claims by others that it is unacceptable. I ask again, have you read this book yourself, or have you only read comments about it that you find on the internet.

[zakuk77]

I have a full Arabic copy with me. I can email it to you. Of course there is also an English translation also available.

[edmoad]

Yes. I have read it. My recommendation to you is to read it also, and then comment. No point in just having "it with you" and then repeating what some website said about it. I thought you were against taqlid. What is this repitition of stuff you read on the internet if not taqlid of the worst kind. You call this 'proof'?

[zakuk77]

Why must you twist everything I say? Clearly if I have it I have read it (my o my).

p.s. I came across this and though may also want to download and read this:

tinyurl . com / y9ymmjm

p.p.s. I see you had no comment on the work listing some of the fabricated hadeeth in IUD? Where one knows of a work that contains plenty of weak and fabricated hadeeth, one normally avoids reading such works unless he is s student of knowledge who can identify correct from incorrect.

This is not personal.

[zakuk77]

As for Ihya uloom al Deen, it is a book that has general acceptance as by Ahlus Sunnah. There are however, over 100 hadith that have been classed as fabricated by various muhadithoon of past & present. This doesnt take away the merit of Imam Ghazali as we dont ascribe such mistakes to be deliberate on part of the scholars. Imam Ghazali did lose himself in the cirles of philosophy and ahlul kalam for a while before he returned back into the hold of the Ahlus Sunnah. May Allah have mercy upon him.

[zakuk77]

I think because we differ on the fundamental points of reference, it is quite wasteful to continue our mind-numbing discourse.

I leave it to the discerning reader to visit the sites and make their own minds whether sufi'sm has any resemblance to the true and pure faith of Islam:

tinyurl . com / yahh33d

Another sufi gimick called 'fana':

tinyurl . com / y85lfkq

p.s. on a side-note, you may want to read this short piece of info: tinyurl . com / ye8faqm

[zakuk77]

tinyurl . com / ye8epfj

If Turkish customary history, beliefs and culture are more important to you then the pure Islam, so be it. Islam and Sufism are two faiths that are diametrically opposed to each other, no matter how much you want to force a 'reconciliation'.

[edmoad]

I have nowhere defended the Mevlevi order.  I am only pointing out that the evidence you offer does not match your claims. A statement on a website does not constitute evidence of what someone believed who lived centuries ago. Yet here are you making claims about the belief and practice of "all sufis" based on some web pages. Some referential integrity. I have only mentioned, as an example, the tasawwuf as explained by Abu Hamid al-Ghazali in Ihya ulum al-Din. You have yet to comment.

[zakuk77]

You defend sufism; therefore by extension you defend their shirk and bid'ah. You are not even well grounded in the knowledge of sufism and what they stand for, so I suppose it is unfair to ask you to explain why they hold certain beliefs. This could be due to Malaysia's own brand of sufism which some people follow in opposition to the Quran and Sunnah. Its funy how Malays claim to be Shafi'i in fiqh, yet when it comes to aqeedah, they care very less as to where they take their ilm from!

[edmoad]

No, I am not well-grounded in what sufis stand for as you say. As you see, I am referring to the works of al-Ghazali, like Ihya ulum al-Din and Kimiya as Saadat. Whereas you, a great scholar, refer me to "tiny . url. blah blah blah" You are indeed the discerner of scholarly sources. Is this where you find your information on Islam?

[edmoad]

I am truly humbled by your statements, oh sheikh. Your statement that Malays do not care where their ilm comes from in aqeeda reflects not only your superior knowledge about the Malay people, but also your thorough understand of Islamic adab and Islamic moral view of racism. I should never have attempted to discuss such an issue with a person of your station.

[edmoad]

"zakuk77" - a good name for a true scholar and purifier of the din. You have effectively proven the statement you quote from Abdullah ibn al-Mubarak that without isnad, people say whatever they want. Indeed, you are now saying whatever enters into your little nafs. Please remember that every letter of it is written in a permanent record.

[edmoad]

So please do not burden me with defending groups or people I do not know about. Nor expect me to endorse accusations of bidah and shirk on them based only on online statements by someone who does not use his real name - just zakuk77 - and then goes on talking about "referential integrity." What a joke. I simply have to suspend judgment. My claim is simply that there is a tasawwuf which is attested to by Qur'an and Sunnah. I make no claim that there are no deviant so-called 'sufi' groups.

[zakuk77]

Unlike Islam, Sufism has no regard for referential integrity, therefore don't be surprised if you can't find the source for their nonesense quotes.

There is another book based on the discourses and the conversations between the "master and disciple" (Mevlana and Suleyman Pervane) called 'Fihi Ma Fih', it offers in prose style Mevlana's views on God, heaven and earth, the Universal Intellect and Partial Intellect, and more.

[zakuk77]

you may also familiarise yourself with this sufi order: mevlana . net

"This station is the Mecca of all dervishes" - Before discussing a matter, I would have assumed you are well versed in the background of the subject, with all due respect. Like the MO, other sufi orders are built upon local culture and traditions, despite their stark variance with orthodox Islam. To either protect or justify them from censure is akin to opposing Islam.

[edmoad]

Again, another website. If you want to aim your accusations at the website and its authors, that would be legitimate. I have a copy of Rumi's Masnavi and some of his discourses which I have read. I do not agree with everything. But, even if my aim in life were to find reasons to accuse people of bida and shirk, I would make my case based on his actual words rather than a website.

[edmoad]

So lets be clear. mevlana . net is not a sufi order. it is a website. I don't even know who put this website up. This is why I don't take my information from the internet.

[zakuk77]

Abdullah ibn Al-Mubarak (died AH 181), who was one of the illustrious teachers of Imam Al-Bukhari, said, "The isnad is from the religion. Were it not for the isnad, anyone could say anything they wished."

I know very well the gravity of my 'accusations'. As Muslims we love and hate only for the sake of Allah and not for personal emotions.

[zakuk77]

As for the whirling dervishes, they follow the 'Mevlevi Order' and ascribe themselves to Rumi.

Rumi said in reference to Sema, "For them it is the Sema of this world and the other. Even more for the circle of dancers within the Sema Who turn and have in their midst, their own Ka'bah." - What he is saying is that just as u come closer to Allah through the tawaf, likewise when you perform Sema u are also closer to Him

So where is the 'sema' in the teachings of the Prophet (SAW) or his Sahabah!?

[edmoad]

Can you cite for me the source of this quotation by Rumi?

[edmoad]

If he is making the sema equal to the tawaf of hajj and umra, then this is indeed problematic. But the questions in my mind are twofold: 1) Did he indeed say this? and 2) Did he mean by it what you claim he meant?  That it is not clear is shown by the fact that you felt the need to interpret his statement for him.

[zakuk77]

I took the info from here: tinyurl . com / ybh2w8p

As to the books of hadeeth & history, these are the clear-cut sources which can be either verified as saheeh/hasan etc or rejected as da'eef/fabricated etc. Those books and sources that do not fall into these categories are easily verifiable. The bottom line is that isnad is an integral part of Islam to decifer fact from fiction.

[edmoad]

I ask for a reference to verify that Rumi made the statement you attribute to him, and that he meant it in the way you interpreted. You give me a webpage of some "online sufism journal". Is this the kind of "isnad" which decifers fact from fiction? A webpage? Is this the level to which our intellectual integrity has sunk among today's Muslims? If you want to make claims that somone said such and such, at least refer to what he wrote himself, and not to some webpage. Wow.

[zakuk77]

That is one of their official websites. Mevlana is most certainly one of the Sufi orders like qadri, chisti, seharawardi etc.

I can't understand why any Muslim who works towards the Qur'an and Sunnah would want to defend the filth of sema and modern day sufi religion and their shirk and bid'ah. Seems to me you have another agenda.

Here are more websites straight from the horse's mouth:

tinyurl . com / ycj4pbo

tinyurl . com / ycwbkc8

tinyurl . com / y9lg7zo

tinyurl . com / y9qgnto

[edmoad]

Oh, this website was published by Rumi himself? I did not know he had internet access! And what did you say just now? Malays don't care where there ilm comes from? I have many good friends who share your opinion about tasawwuf, but they never had to insult a whole race of our brothers in deen to try to make their point.

[zakuk77]

I hope you realise the generality of my remark. Clearly when I say Malays, I do not mean ALL the Malays. The least you can do is show a little awareness of the language medium we are using to communicate. The generality of me remark stands and I myself am involved in da'wah in Johor to realise what I am saying. As for references, let me repeat, sufis care very less for evidence and references, so do not hold your breath if they are not forthcoming with their 'sources'.

[edmoad]

Your remark was "general." You did not mean "ALL" Malays do not care where their aqeeda comes from, but just that Malays "in general" do not care? I think you are the one who needs to show an awareness of the language media you are using. My point is and has been only this: in reference to tasawwuf, and now in reference to Malays aqeeda - you have a habit of making vaguely worded ('general'?) grave accusations which you are not qualified to make. That is, you talk to much.

[zakuk77]

Tasawwuf is not from Islam. The onus is on YOU to prove tasawwuf from established Islamic sources. This is because tasawwuf does not have the acceptance from the vast majority of Muslims, let alone the Ahlus Sunnah. There is a small buy growing number of heretics in Pakistan, Indonesia and even here in Malaysia who reject hadeeth totally and claim to follow "qur'an only" (which is a contradiction in terms). Are you now going to defend these heretics too?

[edmoad]

No. Whoever rejects the Sunnah and claims to follow "Qu'ran only" is wrong, and a contradiction, as you say. But what does this have to do with the topic of our conversation? Were you hoping to also accuse me of defending this view?

[zakuk77]

This is related because like sufism, so-called quranite ideology is taking root in certain parts of the country. What is wrong it wrong, whether its sufi pantheism or anti-hadeeth heretics.

[edmoad]

I understand pantheism as the belief that everything is God. This is shirk. I have never read such a claim in any major book on tasawwuf. It is not in Ihya ulum al-Din. Nor is it even made in any book by al-Arabi that I have read. Please, find me the quote, book, and page number. If you are saying the 'wahdat al-wujud' is pantheism - also, please give me book and page number. I do not understand this idea fully, but from what I have read, it is clearly not pantheism.

[zakuk77]

pantheism is also known as 'Wahdat-ul-Wujud' in arabic, and subhanAllah even some subsects of the sufis have attributed themselves to this belief (based on some works of Ibn 'Arabi - not to be confused with Ibn Al-'Arabi who was a Maliki scholar in Spain/Andalus).

A really good example of someone who believed in this concept was Al Hallaj who was executed by the khalifah because he said "I am al-Haqq" (Al Haqq is really Allah's Name which means 'the Truth').

[edmoad]

No. In Arabic "Wahdat ul Wujud" means "unity" (wahd) of existence (wujud)." The word 'pan-theism' means 'everything' (pan) 'god' (theos) - ism: in other words, that everything is god. These are different words with different meanings. I would have thought you had a command of Arabic, considering your estimation of your own knowledge of Islamic thought.

[zakuk77]

Ibn Arabi (one of Sufism's fav sons) was hauled in the Caliphs court and asked to repent for his blesphemy. He opened his shirt and pointed to his chest and saidL "There is nothing in here by Allah". Of course he was executed as a heretic, but the the poison of WW is very much alive in various Sufi tareeqahs. Read Ibn Arabi's book "Beads of wisdom" - It contains nothing but kufr. Of course he continues to have admirers in the sufi world.

allaahuakbar . net / sufism /

[edmoad]

Case in point: You accused me of 'defending sufism, and by extension, shirk and bidah'. Whereas, if your review my comments, you will find that I have only questioned your evidence and the 'generality' of your accusations. You simply cannot say such things without being careful with precision in the use of the 'language medium' as you say, and with being sure you have solid evidence for it. If you are too lazy to make the case, then do not bring the charge.

[edmoad]

And (of course) you choose interpret it in the way which makes him vulnerable to your accusation. So, some more evidence would be appropriate, given the gravity of the accusation.

[zakuk77]

It tasawwuf is the function is to purity the heart from the lowly bestial attributes of lust, calamities of the tongue, anger, malice, jealousy, love of the world, love of fame, niggardliness, greed, ostentation, vanity, deception, etc. then call it by whatever name you like, this is a neccesity in Islam. However today's sufism is a cult and a different religion that have brought in new ideas and principles that make the hindus look like better muslims!

[edmoad]

Then we are agreed on this. But I am more interested in your answer to my earlier question: By what means do we have access to the Sunnah as practiced and understood by the Sahaba?

[zakuk77]

Sufi tareeqah of today are amongst the innovated ways that go against the Quran & Sunnah & the way followed by the best generations. All the shaykhs of these tareeqahs have made up their own wirds (phrases to be uttered as dhikr), hizb (books of duaa to be read daily by their followers) and ways of worship not prescribed by shari'ah. They have their methods which divides the ummah.

From the kufr od Whirling Dervishes to other orders, they are NOT upon the way of the Sunnah.

[edmoad]

Your accusations of bidah and kufr are never backed up with proof. You simply assert that they tareeqah go against the Qur'an and Sunnah, but I have not yet heard any argument or evidence. For example, how do you know that ALL the shaykhs "made up" their wirids. All wirids that I have ever heard are derived from Qur'an aya, and Prophetic dua and advice(from hadeeth). For example, the Wirid Latif of Iman Haddad. Find me one piece of it which is not derived from these sources.

[zakuk77]

Of course they are back by proof. Their statements and actions and books prove their kufr and bid'ah. Tell me HOW the whirling dervishes can remain Muslim within their own aspired religion? It is you who is struggling to justify the actions of modern day sufi heretics within the folds of Islam.

Sufi religion promotes wahdatul wajood (pantheism) and individuals like ibn Arabi were declared kafir by ijma' of his time. I think you are not familiar with sufi works and references

[edmoad]

What I know about whirling dervishes is that they perform a whirling dance. You ask me how they "can remain Muslim." Is it that whirling around is kufr? This is a major issue! Please, if you can provide definitive proof for this fawa of yours, I will advise all my friends to keep their children off the merry-go-rounds!

[edmoad]

Also, you say that sufis promote

"wahdatul wajood," and that this is pantheism. Please tell me, which book should I look in to find proof of this accusation? Also, where is it recorded that the ijma of ibn Arabi's time declared him kafir? Which scholars were included in that fatwa? And where can I refer to find proof of this accusation of yours?

[zakuk77]

Stop wasting my time, your posts show clearly how ignorant you are about the subject matters you speak of. Go and learn Islam before you understand its opposite. The Sahabah used to learn shar (evil) so that they could avoid it.

[edmoad]

That is the second time you called me ignorant. I know I am ignorant, and that is why I want to know the answer to my question: how do we learn the Sunnah the way the Sahaba understood it? You seem to be an authority on the Sahaba's understanding of the Sunnah...how did you get such knowledge? For instance, you say that all the sufi wirids are innovated. This means you must have both a completely knowledge of all the wirids as well as of all the Sunnah. That is impressive...

[edmoad]

Secondly, even in cases where part of a wirid does not come directly from Qur'an or Hadeeth, it does not follow that it is not from Sunnah. This is because the knowledge of Sunnah may not be limited to that which is found in Hadeeth.

[edmoad]

The Sahaba had the best knowledge of Sunnah, but they did not have that knowledge through hadeeth collections. They passed that knowledge down generation after generation, and after a few centuries the standard collections of hadeeth (Bukhari, Muslim, etc.) were compiled. So, how do you rule out the possibility that knowledge of Sunnah which was not captured or even able to be captured in the text of the collected hadeeths has not continued to be passed down?

[zakuk77]

The were the living examples of the Sunnah and they were the source of hadeeth!

[edmoad]

That was exactly my point.  Knowledge of the Sunnah has to come to us through the Sahaba. So, through whom does knowledge of the Sahaba come to us? My answer is that it comes to us down through generations of learned scholars who are historically linked to the Sahaba by chains - student to teacher - down through the generations. Is there a problem with that answer?

[zakuk77]

The issue of ijazah that you speak of is not limited to a select few and neither is it the domain or monopoly of the sufi leaders you seek to justify. An ijazah is simply a recognition and a tazkiyah from an alim that allows the receiver to teach those particular subject matters. It is not a wholesale license to teach whatever you wish. You have still given no evidence as to the origins of modern-day sufi religion.

[edmoad]

Who are these "sufi leaders I seek to justify" that you speak of? I did not name any names. We may mention Abu Hamid al-Ghazali or Abdul Qadir al-Jilani. Also, I never mentioned 'modern day sufi religion.' I don't think these two great scholars come under this category. So to be more specific, I will say that by tasawwuf, I mean the subject matter of Ihya ulum al-Din or Kimiya as Saadat.

[edmoad]

I did not mention ijazah. I only said that the Sahaba taught the next generation and the next generation taught them ,etc. They passed down the light of the Prophet through the ages, and nothing new can be made a part of it which was not there in the beginning. But, in the case of the institution of ijazah, I am curious: do you accept it as part of Islam?

[zakuk77]

You mentioned a chain of learning from "teacher to student". The teacher does not automatically allow the student to teach under his auspices without giving him the recommendation to do so. This is called ijaza; a tazkiyah from the teacher to to enable the student to teach.

As to your question: "By what means do we have access to the Sunnah as practiced and understood by the Sahaba?"

The answer is very simple: Referential integrity that we find in the books of hadeeth, seerah tareekh etc.

[edmoad]

So we are limited to the books of hadeeth and history as sources?

[zakuk77]

I think you have a flawed understanding of what the Sunnah and Hadeeth is. I am not going to discuss this deep science with you unless you show some intelligence and evidence of learning.

[edmoad]

I will ignore this insult of yours and hope that we can continue the discussion because, in spite of your poor assessment of me, it seems to me that you DO have some intelligence and learning, and I am willing to learn what I can. So please, now that we agree that the Sahaba were the living examples of Sunnah: through what means do we have access to these examples so that we can emulate them?

[zakuk77]

Tasawwuf did not appear until after the first three generations which the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) praised when he said, The best of mankind is my generation, then those who come after them, then those who come after them (Saheeh Bukhaari, 2652; Muslim, 2533)

With regard to the word soofiyyah (Sufism), it was not known during the first three generations, rather it became known after that.

[baquratularmani]

tasawuf itu adalah nama bg ilmu akhlaq,seperti mana usuludin nama bagi ilmu iman,dan fekah nama bagi ilmu undang2 seperti solat dan yg lain2!bukah kah nabi mengajar kan supaya kita merendah diri,tidak sombong,tidak riak,dan bagai mana sifat jahat ini dapat dibuang sekiranya kita tidak berusaha untk mencucikan hati,dan tasawuf itu menunjuk kan cara bagai mana untk kita mensucikan kan,yaitu dgn berzikir mengingati allah.

[baquratularmani]

jika allah megingin kabaikkan kepada seseorang,maka allah akan memberi kefahaman kepada nya tentang agama! dan mereka tidak pula hanya mengambil bahagian2 yg mereka suka dan menolak bahagian yg mereka tidak suka! zaman nabi tidak ada istilah fekah,usuludin atau atau tasauf.sekiranya kita semua merasakan yg diri sudah pandai,maka kita tidak perlu mengambil semua ilmu2 yg telah dibahagi kan oleh ulamak2 untk memudah kan kita mengamalkan nya!

[zakuk77]

Allah SWT has perfected His religion and the Prophet SAW explained it in detail. If the so-called Tasawwuf was a "reality", then the Prophet and the Sahabah would have explained it as an essential part of Deen, they did not. Tasawwuf in reality is a fraud and a concept that was invented 200 years after hijrah. Muslims, wake up and understand the filth that these sufis are trying to promote in the name of their demented understanding of Islam. what was Islam then, is Islam now! No more & no less!

[edmoad]

If you think that the Prophet did not explain tasawwuf as part of the deen, then you either do not know what tasawwuf is, or you have not understood many important aya of Qur'an and sahih hadeeth. Probably both. And you are probably reading those Saudi published versions where they insert their own impoverished commentary in between the lines of the text.

[zakuk77]

Really? So now you are going to teach the Muslims something which the Prophet (SAW) di not!? Where are your brains? What was NOT Islam during the time of the Shabah, can NOT be Islam today. I do not trust your interpretations and re-interpretations of the Qur'an and Sunnah. I trust the Sahabah and believe that they delivered the message of Islam fully to those who cam after them. Tasawwuf is a different religion to Islam because it contains bid'ah and also some aspects of shirk as well!

[edmoad]

I am not trying to "teach the Muslims." You are the one that seems to feel yourself qualified for that. But I agree, Islam is the Islam of the Prophet and Sahaba - this includes love for the Prophet (saw) more than one's self, purifying the nafs through fulfilling the obligations to Allah and then through sincere voluntary worship and dhikr in the hope that Allah will love us and then become the eye by which we see, the hand by which we grasp, etc. as the Prophet informed us.

[zakuk77]

Islamic aqeedah & manhaj (methodologies) have been explained to us. Love of the Prophet (SAW), tazkiyatun Nafs, fulfilling obligations towards our Creator, nawafil salah, dhikr are all aspects of the Deen which have been put into practise by the Sahabah who were the best of people. They explained them as they are without distorting their realities and giving them alien names like tasawwuf etc. Why can't you simply take their excellent sunnah and practise as they practised instead of innovating!?

[edmoad]

The Sunnah of the Prophet and Sahaba is, as you said, the most excellent path. Anything going by the name 'sufi' which opposes that is wrong. But realities matter, not names. If you don't like the 'alien' name tasawwuf, then discard the name. But what about 'usul al-fiqh' 'ilm al hadeeth' and the classification system of hadeeth? Did the Prophet and Sahaba use these terms? I believe you will not find these terms in Qur'an or hadeeth. This does not mean they are bidah.

[zakuk77]

I think there is a major misunderstanding between us. The sufis (or the Ahlus Suffah) of the past were simply promoters of zuhd upon the way of the Prophet SAW and the Sahabah. It wasnt a new madhab nor a new path or way or reinterpretation of what the Prophet SAW taught. Todays sufism is a religion that has its own code of conduct, scholars and books. It is full of shirk and bid'ah and you expect Muslims to accept this anti-Islamic way of life!?

[edmoad]

For example, you said "Islamic aqeedah and manhaj (methodologies) have been explained to us." Can you show me one place in Qur'an, or Hadeeth of the Prophet, in which the terms 'aqeeda' is used, or in which the term 'methodology' is used? But to say that use of the term 'aqeeda' is a bidah is ridiculous. The term has been used by Islamic scholars to connote a real element of Islam as practiced and taught by the Prophet and Sahaba. Likewise with 'tasawwuf'.

[zakuk77]

Please do NOT play the semantics game with me! I have enough of this tactic from the christians. You know very well I was using the term aqeedah to imply Eemaan (beliefs). You can not move away from the fact that the concept of tasawwuf has been developed over the centuries by the sufis to denote a brand new path & indeed a new madhab of understanding and pracising Islam. Tasawwuf is a corruption of the Sunnah as its proponents (like u) think you can redefine the ideals which u mentioned eariler

[edmoad]

As you use the term aqeeda to connote iman, i use the term tasawwuf to connote ihsan. I do not consider it as a distinct sect, but as an integral part of the three (islam, iman, ihsan) components of the deen as described in the Hadeeth of Gibriel. I agree there is a lot that goes by the name 'tasawwuf' or 'sufi' today which is charlatanry. Unfortunately, the same has been done with the term 'Islam'. We have to discuss the meanings and not just labels.

[indralove]

Sesungguhnya siapa yg hidup diantara kalian, niscaya akan mendapati perselisihan yang sangat banyak. Oleh itu wajib atas kalian untuk berpegang kepada sunnahku dan sunnah para kulafa rasyidin sesudahku, gigitlah dengan gigi gerahammu, dan hati-hatilah terhadap PERKARA-PERKARA BARU kerana sesungguhnya bid'ah (perkara baru dalam agama) adalah sesat.

HR Tirmidzi 2676 & ia berkata :Hadis ini "hasan sahih"

Abu Dawud 6407

Ibnu Majah 4244

Ahmad bin Hambal (IV/126)

[indralove]

Allah memberitakan tentang Quran itu kitab. Tetapi Allah tiada memberitakan tentang Sufi/Tasauf..

Cuba awak lihat Surah Al-Baqoroh ayat 2, Al-Imran ayat 4, Al-A'raaf ayat 7, Surah Yunus ayat 1.

[ilhambara]

nak tahu jugak TUAN GURU NIK AZIZ NIH SYEIKH MURSYID MANA2 TARIKAT KE???

[RTM1KL]

Didalam memahami hadist yg paling layak tentulah Rasululullah saw.

Malah Rasululullah mengkhabarkan golongan sahabat tabiin dan tabiut tabiin adalah merupakan zaman terbaik krn mrk memahami Al quran dan hadist tanpa melakukan bidaah.

Tasauf muncul selepas zaman tersebut yg mana Islam pada masa itu sudah mundur - berpecah belah.Maka atas dasar tersebut 4 imam mazhab tidak pernah terlibat dgn tarikat malah memgharamkan sesiapa yg mengikutinya......

[indralove]

setuju!!!

"Pada hari ini telah Kusempurnakan untuk kamu agamamu dan telah Kucukupkna kepadamu nikmatKu, dan telah Kuredha Islam itu jadi agama bagimu"

QS Al-Maa-idah ayat 3

[RajaSolo7Lautan]

apa yg ada kat rasullullah s.a.w dah complete. cra2 menuju dunia dan akhirat... perbuatan/sunnah baginda jalan kpd kjayaan didunia... ibadat baginda pula jalan kpd kejayaan akhirat.. watpe nak tokok tambah g. kalo nak blajar tasawuff, kaji sifat,ibadat,sunnah baginda... tu yg sbnar2 tsawuff. bkn nak kena berzikir zikir2 trtntu sampai berpuluh2 ribu. kdg2 niat brzikir pon dah salah (mngejar makam) mcm mana nak sucikan hati.cuba renungkan knp setiap niat kita mesti ada ikhlas kerana allah taala?

[angnila]

ikhlas itu la tujuan tasauf saudara raja solo

bkn makam ataumartabat tertentu, anugerah itu hanyalah ibarat kemuncup yg melekat di kain krtika kita berjalan ke padang untuk bercucuk tanam, faham kah saudara maksud ikhlas yg sebenar2 tasauf

[RajaSolo7Lautan]

itulah maksud sy.. bkn sy katakan tasauf tu makam atau martabat, tp ada sstgh tarikat yg sy jumpa mereka berzikir smata2 nak mngejar ssuatu makam.. kdgkala zikir mereka seolah2 kerasukan.. setahu sy tasauf itu jalan utk mndapatkan keredhaan allah s.w.t.bila allah dah redha semua urusan jadi mudah. baik dunia dan akhirat. dan jalan2 tu dah ditunjukkan pula kpd kita melalui junjungan besar kta rasullullah s.a.w. tu sbb sy katakan apa yg ada pd rasul kta sudah smpurna. x perlu ditokok tmbah..

[angnila]

masalah yg org kata di tokok tmbh ini la yg jadi besar-besaran sbb tak sume org tau, dr mana susur galur wirid yg diaorang dpt, rasulallah ramai sahabat, dan tdk semua sahabat mendapat amalan yg sama, tp tujuan ttp sama, itulah tnada kekayaan allah subhanahuataala

[alirfan78]

kita banyak mempertikaikan tasauf tu sesat...sufi adalah perkataan yang diadakan..macam-macam tuduhan yang dilemparkan kepada golongan tersebut....

yang pelik dan hairannya...pengarang buku Maniyatul Musalli Syeikh Daud Fatani sendiri mengambil tareqat syatariah dan mengamalkan ajaran sufi.....

kita yang sedikit ilmu ni banyak mempertikaikan...tahukah kita erti bidaah?

[CSMUBOY]

kan....... besa laa tu.. orangs ekrang... bila kita cakap satu golongn ni golongn wahabi.. nnti dia kata.. wahabi tu diada-adakan oleh musuh islam... sebenarnya salafi...

then dia kata orang sufi pulak.. padahal sufi tu just panggilan je untuk orang2 yang nak membersihkan hati tuk lebih dekat kt Allah n Nabi.. yang tu dia pertikaikan pulak... besa laa.. byk org x sedar kan diri.. besa laa tu.. emosi semata2..

[indralove]

Sufi dan Tasauf ni ada beza ke ?

Sufi (Orangnya) Tasauf (kumpulannya) .... bukankah mereka itu sama ?

[emi0218]

bukanlah ilmu tu yg wat org berpecah..tp manusia tu sndiri..la..tkkan tu pon xtaw

[CSMUBOY]

ilmu tu menyenangkan manusia.. tetapi bila kita tak faham tentang jalan dalam mencari ilmu.. maka berpecahlah kita.. huhu..

[dreddlynn]

Saudara ku dlm Islam, Jgnlah kita bertengkar dan bergaduh antara satu sama lain. Hukum ALLAH bukan utk kita meempertikaikan. Ianya milik ALLAH Azza Wa Jal. Bagaimana nak menyebarkan syiar ISLAM ke seluruh dunia sedangkan umat masih lagi berpecah-belah antara satu sama lain? Berselisihan faham dgn kekaburan mata kami sendiri. Sikap yg lemah inilah yg membuatkan ISLAM dipijak di depan mata sendiri oleh pihak yg suka mengambil kesempatan utk memusnahkan syariat ISLAM yg sebenar. Renungkanlah. Salam

[RTM1KL]

Barangsiapa mengada-adakan dalam urusan (agama) kami perkara baru yang bukan darinya maka perkara itu tertolak. (Hadis Riwayat Bukhari, no.2697 dan Muslim no. 1718 dari hadis Aisyah radhiyallahu anhu

Ibnu Masoud berkata: Janganlah kamu melakukan bidah dan berlebih-lebihan dalam beragama. Wajib ke atas kamu berpegang teguh dengan perkara agama yang dahulu kala (ajaran Rasulullah yang murni Pent.) (Diriwayatkan oleh ad-Darimi (1/54) dan lbnu Baththah dengan sanad yang sahih)

[alirfan78]

hadis tersebut kalau dilihat dari asbabu wurud adalah berkenaan dengan puasa...sila semak semula...hadis yang tuan pakai

[CSMUBOY]

yupp..... sila lihat ulasan ulama tentang hadis tersebut... okay.. kita sebagai orang besa yang sgt bodoh ni jan laa suka2 je ckp ulasan kita yang paling betul.. huhu..

[RTM1KL]

yang saya tulis itu bkn ulasan dari saya tetapi dari kitab2 hadist.

[CSMUBOY]

yupp... yg tu memang hadis.. tapi setiap hadis mempunyai ulasan ulama.. so sila rujuk ulasan ulama mengenai hadis tersebut.. wallahua'lam..

[RTM1KL]

Dari hadis Irbadh bin Sariyah radhiyallahu anhu, Nabi Shallallahu alaihi wa Sallam bersabda, Sesungguhnya barangsiapa dari kamu yang hidup (selepas kewafatanku) maka dia akan melihat banyaknya perselisihan. Maka, wajib ke atas kamu supaya berpegang teguh dengan sunnahku dan sunnah para khalifah al-Rasyidin (yang mendapat petunjuk), gigitlah ia dengan se-erat-eratnya walaupun dengan gigi-gigi geraham kamu. (Lihat Shahih Sunan Abi Dawud, hadis no. 3851)

[RTM1KL]

Firman Allah Subhanahu wa Taala, Dan barangsiapa yang menentang Rasul sesudah jelas kebenaran baginya, dan mengikuti jalan yang bukan jalan orang-orang mukmin, Kami biarkan ia leluasa terhadap kesesatan yang telah dikuasainya itu dan Kami masukkan ia ke dalam Jahannam, dan Jahannam itu seburuk-buruk tempat kembali (Surah an-Nisa, 4: 115)

[hcity09]

rtm1kl , saya tak faham apa yang kamu cuba sampaikan .

[RTM1KL]

Sedangkan Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam telah memperingatkan kepada kita terhadap bahayanya perbuatan bidah sebagaimana sabdanya:

Jauhi oleh kamu perkara-perkara yang baru, kerana setiap yang baru (dalam agama) adalah bidah dan setiap bidah adalah sesat. . H/R Turmizi

Kemudian apabila kamu berlainan pendapat tentang sesuatu, maka kembalikanlah ia kepada Allah (al-Quran) dan Rasul (Sunnahnya). AN NISA 4:59

[cibakcibak]

al-Quran tu ditulis selepas kewafatan Nabi S.A.W bukankah bida'ah? bacaaan talkin? etc....

[strivetillend]

Al-quran dibukukan oleh khulafa al-Rasyidin. ia bukan bidaah.

[CSMUBOY]

ia juga bidaah... kerana nabi tidak pernah membukukan alquran... tapi ni adalah satu bidaah ayng hasanah.. yang menguntungkan islam... tidak ada masaalah... ni laa cara ulama2 dahulu.. ulama2 salaf.. para sahabat nabi bila berdepan dengan benda2 baru yang tidak ada pada zaman rasulullah..

[strivetillend]

Sesiapa yang mengadakan sesuatu yang baru di dalam urusan kami yang bukan daripadanya, maka ia tertolak. Bermaksud tidak diterima. Nabi s.a.w. bersabda di dalam hadis yang lain: Maka hendaklah kamu berpegang dengan sunnahku dan sunnah al-KHULAFA AL RASYIDIN al-Mahdiyyin (mendapat petunjuk).

[indralove]

memang Nabi tidak membukukan Al-Quran, tetapi jikalau tidak kerana Aisyah r.a. menyuruh, apa awak ingat awak boleh hafal 30juz ? Pada Zaman Nabi, para sahabat yang menghafal Al-Quran ramai yang gugur dalam perperangan. Jika tidak membukukan, adakah awak boleh menghafal 30juz dgn begitu saja?

[indralove]

Siapa ni orang bodoh yang mengatakan membukukan Al-Quran itu adalah bidaah hasanah?

Cuba awak lihat Surah Al-Baqoroh ayat 2, Al-Imran ayat 4, Al-A'raaf ayat 7, Surah Yunus ayat 1.

Allah memberitakan tentang Quran itu kitab. Tetapi Allah tiada memberitakan tentang Sufi/Tasauf..

[RTM1KL]

Abu al-Hassan an-Nadwi di dalam kitabnya: Rabbaniyah laa Ruhbaniyah berkata: Aduhai! Jika sekiranya mereka tidak menyatakan Sufiyah tetapi menyebutnya Tazkiyah sebagaimana firman Allah Taala:Dan mengajarkan kepada mereka al-Kitab (al-Quran) dan hikmah serta mensucikan mereka. AL-BAQARAH 2:129

Dengan ini jelaslah bahawa munculnya istilah tasawuf adalah nama baru yang menjadi penyebab pecah-belah jamaah kaum muslimin.

[RTM1KL]

Dan barangsiapa yang menentang Rasul sesudah jelas kebenaran baginya dan mengikuti jalan yang bukan jalan orang-orang beriman, Kami biarkan dia berleluasa terhadap kesesatan yang telah dikuasainya itu dan Kami masukkan dia ke dalam Jahanam dan jahanam itu seburuk-buruk tempat kembali.. An-Nisa, 4:115.

"Benarkah Nabi Muhammad membenarkan ciptaan baru dalam agama???

[RTM1KL]

Baginda membuat satu garis lurus dengan tangannya lalu baginda bersabda: Ini jalan Allah, kemudian menunjukkan ke beberapa garisan pendek di sekitar garisan tersebut maka baginda bersabda: Inilah jalan-jalan yang di setiap atas jalan tersebut terdapat syaitan yang mengajak manusia kepadanya (kepada syaitan).Itulah (jalan) yang aku dan para sahabatku berada di atasnya (atau dimaksudkan juga: itulah jalanku dan jalan para sahabatku..

Lihat: Mustadrak oleh Hakim. 1/128. Turmizi 5/26. No2641

[ppenembakk]

tasauf tu yg aku tau la penyucian diri,klu ni dh dikatakan tk boleh baik,kita jgn belajaq,baik kita mengotorkan diri,pi dangdut ke,pi disko ke ,tu yg korang nak,itu lah melayu yg mengaku islam,klo pi konsert sekor pon tk nak pertikai,tpi klo tasauf(penyucian diri)di yg depa bangkang,termasok tok2 peti,itulah kejayaan yahudi sampai sekarang,mereka berjaya rosakkan pemikiran islam skrg

[saujana58]

Sepanjang penyelidikan saya terhadap ustaz rasul berdasarkan bukunya, vcd serta mp3 tidak terdapat beliau mengkafirkan individu.Kalau sekiranya terdapat didalam buku@vcd@mp3 belaiu mengkafirkan seseorang sila beri masukkan ke youtube.Supaya masyarakat dpt menilai beliau secaa adil.Segala mp3 buku dan vcd semuanya dapat free cuma kena rajin cari di laman2nya.

[crackrazh]

Rasul Dahri tak nak sesatkan Nik Aziz ke? Bukan Ke Rasul Dahri kata Tasauf dan Sufi tu bukan ajaran islam... Pelik orang yang belajar ilmu tasauf untuk mengelokkan akhlak dan iman pon jadi sesat

[mamangrock]

Adakah Tasawuf itu diajar oleh Nabi ataupon terdapat didalam al-quran? Siapa yg memulainya?

[hiche72]

Nak tanya balik, Salahkah ilmu tasauf tu? Ilmu untuk mengenal 10 sifat keji dengki, khianat, sombong, bongkak, ujud, dll supaya dpt kita elakkan supaya amal kita dapat diterima ALLAH.

nak bagi kita renung dalam diri kita saja kalau ada benda ni dan boleh kita buang supaya kita bersih bukan setakat zahir tapi juga yg batin.

[mamangrock]

Tidakah ALLAH telah memberitahu kepada Nabi kita yg ianya telah sempurnakan UGAMA kita(ISLAM) ini dgn turunnya al-quran.Kalau dlm al-quran tidak ada ajaran tasauf,then dari mana datangnya tasauf ni?? Nak percaya pada Allah ke nak percaya pada Ulama Sufi ke??

[hiche72]

Ulamak sufi itu adalah ulamak ALLAH, nak belajar hukum adakah baca Quran saja kena ada ulamak yang menerangkannya. Zahir ada bathin, Quran pon ada zahir dan bathin, terjemahan alQuran bukannya makna kena rujuk guru juga, kalau ustaz tu hanya tahu fekah sahaja, setakat belajar hukum, ahli tasauf pon tau hukum fekah, wajid, sunat, harus, makruh & haram. Ramai yang tahu, lagi pon tau fekah tu ramai tahu, surga ALLAH 1000 org 1 saja layak, saya pon tak tahu lagi, ilmu baru kulit

[hiche72]

Percaya itu iman: 1.memanglah percaya pada ALLAH, 2.Percaya Pada Rasul 3.Percaya Malaikat 4.Quran itu kitabnya memanglah percaya pada Kitabnya 5.Percaya pada Hari Kiamat 6.Percaya pada Qada dan Qadar 7.Percaya pada diri sendiri 8.Jangan percaya pada satu2 benda yg kita tak tahu kesahihan 9.jangan percaya pada pembohongan 10.Hantu pon kita percaya laaarr terlebih percaya pulak.. sori, 6 di atas saja...

[RajaSolo7Lautan]

x salah. :) tp sifat2 tu sbnarnya kta dah sedia maklum.. suma sifat tu ada dlm diri, perbetulkan solat insya allah terhindar dr sifat2 tu. kan dlm solat ada bacaan alfatihah.. setiap rakaat kt mintak ditunjukkan jalan yg lurus, jalan yg dikurniakan nikmat, bukan jalan2 org yg allah murkai dan sesat.. jalan2 sesat itulah dr sifat keji yg saudara ckpkan td... :) wallahualam... soal amalan dtrima bkn dlm tgn kita, jika takut amalan ditolak smata2 krana sifat2 tu sampai bila kita nak beramal kan?

[hiche72]

sesiapa memikirkan apa yg ada dalam quran itu pon dah tasauf...

Sikap perlakuan Yahudi semasa nabi musa, itu pon ada dalam quran, kita diminta menjauhi sfat keji tersebut.

[RajaSolo7Lautan]

ilmu allah itu luas. sbgai cth, 3 orang lelaki berselisih pndapat mngenai saiz bulan. lelaki dibumi ckp bulan itu kecil sbsr tapak tgn, diangkasa pula ckp saiz bulan sbsr rumah, lelaki yg berada diatas bulan ckp saiz bln jauh lebih besar dari kedua2nya. mereka menuduh sesama sndiri sbgai pendusta walhal kesemua kata2 mereka benar. pendekatan yg membezakan mereka. begitulah jua dgn wahabi, sufi, rock kapak? selagi mereka beriman dan tidak menyekutukan allah, janji2 allah akan ttp bersama mereka.

[RajaSolo7Lautan]

wahabi, tasawuf, sufi ke.. bagi aku suma betul. selagi diorg bersusur galurkan dari rasul kita muhammad s.a.w. setau aku even wahabi dan ahli sufi berbunuhan sesama sndiri atas alasan menegakkan agama allah, dua2 golongan ni dikira syahid. salah ke belajar mnyucikan hati dgn niat mendekatkan diri pada allah. dan salah juga ke menegakkan ajaran rasul dan menentang segala bentuk bidaah baik yg dilarang dan dibolehkan. inilah yang dikatakan manusia, makhluk allah yg tidak sempurna sifatnya...

[agusta66]

Islam sesama Islam berbunuhan mati kafir

[RajaSolo7Lautan]

jatuh kafir atas sbb apa? kalo perjuangan tu utk menegakkan islam pon jatuh kafir gak ke? kasi info lebey skit...

[abu1432]

Mulia nya manusia kerana berakal , oleh yg demikian gunakan lah akal untok membeza kan yg salan dan benar .memfitnah adalah dosa yg amat besar disisi allah...renungkanlah.

[cikguyati81]

ustad rasul dahari tu wahabi... x hairan la dia kata tarekat dan tasawwuf ni bahaya... buat encik maduz... wahabi mmg dri zaman tabi'in memusuhi terkat dan ahli sufi... ramai ahli sufi yg dibunuh oleh puak wahabi...

[maduz]

Allah lebih mengetahui kesemuanya. Saya bukanlah ahli agama. Cuma ingin menyampaikan kebenaran. Tidak ada dosa bagi orang yang tidak mengetahui. Kita umat Islam seharusnya memandang ke arah tujuan yang sama bukan haluan yang berbeza. Diakui saya ini maseh muda dan naluri remaja maseh bergelonjak dlm jiwa. Ameen,InsyaAllah hidayah Allah akan dtg jika istiqamah memintanya. afwan.

[maduz]

Bahayanya Tarikat Sufi Dan Tasawwuf.. Renungkanlah...

Sebelum kt mengikut, eloklah kt mengetahui isi kandungan ajaran sufi dan tasawwuf... Jangan menyesal jika di saat akhir kita baru mengetahui kebenaran yang sebenarnya... Dengarlah ceramah Ustaz Rasul Dahri mengenai Bahayanya Tarikat Sufi dan Tasawwuf... Maasalamah...Assalamualaikum

[AntonOemar]

wahabi ke??

[jamadi84]

kalau awak paham ape itu wahabbi cuba terangkan???? tiada wahabbi tapi salafi.

[antipenjahat]

alhamdulillah atas nasihat tuan maduz...sebaik2nya tuan maduz dgr dahulu ceramah tasawwuf dari guru2 yg mahir dlm bidang ini sblum beri kata putus terhadap ilmu tasawwuf kerana takut2 terfitnahkan org2 yg soleh tanpa tuan maduz mendalami ilmu tasawwuf ini..syukran.

[hiche72]

Iman itu yakin, kalau tak belajar tasauf, adakah kita boleh yakin kita hati kita masih dikotori dengan nafsu amarah.

Pahal Ibadat akan terhapus sekiranya masih terdapat nafsu amarah di dalam hati.

Kalau masih tak setuju cuba huraikan

[aidilsab]

Assalamualaikum wr wb. Tumpang tanya adakah TG Nik Aziz ni Syeikh bagi mana-mana Tariqat Sufi?

[aieyboss]

Alhamdulillah.... Semoga Allah panjangkan umur Tuan Guru.

[kingkongroyal]

kami sayang tok guru!

[suzi079]

semoga segala usaha tok guru menegakkan agama diberkati Allah swt.

[lolokk]

may allah bless him! ameen!