Zildjian 18" Z3 China Cymbal (Z30718-1111009F)

[SuperNotNoob]

I think grindcore when I hear this china.

[Midknightdrummer]

Is it good for breakdowns?

[NotAnge]

beautiful, high pitch and that distinct metal china feel much better than the 20" and the ultra hammered line

[joshuachan56]

Is this cymbal durable?

The Zildjian website says that this china is thin and im a hard-hitter... I know that Z3 is durable as hell but i'm worried about the china.

[IJayCee101]

first strike.. ...instant buy

[SuperNotNoob]

Good, trashy china! Anyone else notice that it has shorter sustain in the second demonstration?

[halabinono]

is this the cymbal with the weird volcano cup bell?

[SlayerPJO]

@halabinono Nah, thats the ultra hammered china.

[WorstCaseScenarioWCS]

This or the oriental im trying to find a good china for my set

[IntakeDeathification]

@WorstCaseScenarioWCS It depends. I personally prefer the Oriental China Trash...

The disadvantages is that they crack pretty easily if you're a hard-hitter. My friend is a hard-hitter and he's owned the 18" and he's already broken it twice and his hitting technique is correct.

Z3 are durable. Although i don't know how long they last, i'm sure that they can take quite a beating :)

[eli4s1231]

i cant choose between this or the oriental 18"??? help please.

[MrDeathkiller666]

@eli4s1231 i would say oriental china trash but it's up to you

[eli4s1231]

@MrDeathkiller666 k oriental china it is

[ABCdeeeefgee]

Do the world a favor, and quit drumming. Why do you have the cymbal upside down?

Oh, and you're a terrible player too.

[kanedan123]

Omg, what is that snare? sounds soo good =)

[xXMATTxESCAPISTXx]

should i get this one.. or oriental china?

[NOTIME2BLEED93]

@xXMATTxESCAPISTXx i got an oriental china and the sound is amazing. but i had a little cut in it 6 months ago and zildjian replaced it. but now it's broke again. so if you're a hard hitter i would recommend z3 :)

[houseshoesbto]

@xXMATTxESCAPISTXx idk dude cause the i have the oriental and i've played that thing for 4 plus years and i play anything from jazz to lamb of god and i love it. BTW never had cracks keyholing, anything.

[disposablepast666]

im a hard hitter what china would you recommend for someone like me

[memphisdrumshop]

@disposablepast666 This one!

[ricbtst]

@disposablepast666 or the oriental but that ones more trashy sounding compared to this

[danieljordison0793]

@disposablepast666 or the ultra hammered one, IT IS A BEAST

[gshibuta]

This sounds waaay better when in the regular way of placing cymbals

[jesse17ful]

sounds great

the zildjian z customs series should have never been discontinued

[EvangelicArtist1]

i think the 20 inch sounds better in my opinion:) but this is this really good:)

[darkninja060]

i have this cymbal, so good in my opinion