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  • I have a mazdaspeed (MPS) and ive raced a Golf5 and 6 GTI. Not a match....

  • omg mazda driver is an idiot

  • yeah try stage 3 gti...no stock "200" hp would beat a speed3

  • GTI is manual or DSG?

  • Not an MPS. A real MPS is quite a lot quicker than a golf GTI.

  • @nick945 definitely is a speed there bud. look at it. stock speed front end, stock speed wheels, front quarter panels, hood, yep definitely a speed (mps)

  • nice racee

  • not a mps

  • this is not GTI! is a 1.9 TDI

  • mazda is just ugly!

  • BugEyedWRX02, you are right: This is the Mazda 3 Sport 2.0, 150hp. And I wonder that both car's accelleration is nearly equal - must be the higher weight of the mk5. I drive the 3MPS (mazdaspeed 3) and mk5 GTI is much behind this car.

  • this isnt a speed 3 in the video, its just the base mazda 3. You can tell by the back of it, it doesnt have the little plastic thing over the exhaust.

  • yeah current GTI's have nothing on MS3's, acceleration-wise, the driver must have been drunk

  • @Astidcrisse it was a plain mazda3

  • @430nate it's a speed 3 idiot

  • r20 comes out 2010 , turbo awd, something vw fans have been wanting in the r range for a while :)

  • I have the model mazdaspeed 3 2008 and it's great (at the top 290 km/h) see my videos

  • mazda sucks

  • You know nothing man. u suck...

  • I think the driver of the Mazda didnt know how to swift because the Speed 3 can own almost the Supra. He also own the 350z nismo for sure.

  • Maybe an N/A but not a twin turbo....

  • Hardly owned. :)

  • 8 miliseconds?You must mean 80 miliseconds because the fastest gearbox in a production car shifts in 20 miliseconds and is equiped on every ferrari f430 scuderia...

  • no, 8 milliseconds

  • Mazdaspeed = owned! and the GTi isn;t even chipped!

  • On every video here IT TURNS OUT TYPE R AND GOLF GTI BEAT ALMOST EVERY RIVAL OR BE EQUIVALENT WITH 20 to 60 BHP DOWN !!

  • GTI Rules!

  • ...Volvemos a lo d siempre. Esta claro k va a ganar el gti. Tiene mucha mas aceleracion k el mazda, pero en larga distancia las cosas cambian, seguro

  • lol but that huge difference would mean that mazda driver is horrible...

  • the mazda driver is horrible.

  • as much as i'd like to say the stock gti actually showed up a 260hp mazda3, i think somebody mustve been trying to strangle the mazda driver because he clearly underperformed

  • yeah.. strangled hahaha idk what was up with that driver... maybe it wasn't his car? i'm getting a ms3 in either the winter or the start of next summer after spring semester. I'm pretty sure that means a 2010 version. What do you think about the new body style?

  • ugly

  • Fugly!

  • I love my 09 speed3, but I think Mazda took a leap backwards with the styling of the '10. In my opinion, it's embarassing.

  • It's my opinion, too. I drive the "old" model and I love the understatement of this car.

  • @roszko the face looks like a Pug 308, ok but not original.

  • @roszko its funny how 1st gen owners complain about the new styling.. cmon, dont be sad

  • @TopMRide haha you have to be kidding

  • Pathetic fakery. VW Beetle is simply modified. It's absolutely not possible for a stock Beetle GTI to beat the Mazda MPS.

  • if u really want 2 know where is it from then just chack a vin # mkv gti ,r32 and some others germany, jetta and others mexico ,mk4 gti brazil ,mk4 r32 germany

  • stupid gringosss that you dont have the money to buy and import from germany says a lot because onley the cheap vw cars are made in puebla mexico ass hole GTI are shiped by boat

  • hmmm this isnt supposed to happen? mazda driver definitely not driving properly...

  • You also have to remember the Mazda weighs 100kg more than the golf.

  • you're right something's wrong here, could be that the GTI isn't stock and the MPS is because the stock GTI 0-60 time is like 6-6.5 sec and the MPS 0-60 time is 5.6 secs...

  • all mkv gti's sold in USA are made in wolfsburg, germany

  • they are made in MEXICO!!!! 0_o

  • if you look on the inside of driver side door there is a plate that tells you where your vehicle is manufactured. my 2008 vw gti is manufactured in wolfsburg germany where all other gti's are made. the jetta and rabbit are made in mexico. either way they are all recommended on consumer reports there haven't been any major issues with any of them.

  • they used to be made in Mexico before 2006 but not anymore, now they come straight from Germany...

  • ALL LEFTHAND DRIVE VOLKSWAGENS SOLD IN NORTH AMERICA ARE MADE BY THE FENCE JUMPERS IN MEXICO. Get over it. Parts from Germany. Assembled in Mexico. Stop your bitching and moaning.  I have a 86 Jetta that was actually from germany. They stopped shipping them over around 92 or 93ish I believe.

  • hahaha fence jumpers

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  • Pre 2001.5's were from Germany...anything after that was from Mexico. I have had 2 '00 GTi's, an '00 Jetta, an '01.5 Jetta and an '03 GTI.....all the pre-'01.5's are Germany and the last 2 were Mexico. My '08 GTI is from Germany...has it on the manu. label under the spare tire in the hatch. Strangely, all the Jettas had a lot of problems (mechanical and cosmetic) while all the GTIs have been BULLETPROOF. One of the '00 GTis was a VR6, the rest have been 1.8t's/2.0t (obviously the '08)

  • W first on the vin does mean it is made in Wolfsburg..every GTI ive seen has been made in wolfsburg.. other models may have an "M" for puebla "M"exico.. such as greasy hero

  • the gti is actually built in germany but nice try.

  • no mexico

  • no, in mexico, puebla

  • how the fuck is the gti built in mexico...it's an german brand wtf?it's not all about USA chill out

  • Why not just realise that the value of a car to an individual is what it can make you feel as opposed to how it's built or what it can do? Sure, the mazda should be faster than a GTI on a straight line, but I'd prefer having a GTI... it makes me feel better, I've driven both. Just as I prefer a viper over an R8 or a gallardo over a f430. I prefer a 335 coupe over a challenger srt8 It's got to do with how it makes you feel, not what it can do. Don't you think so?

  • gtis are gay. go ms3. fuck fsi engines.

  • lol horsepower isn't everything man, lol little chink made it. germans make the best cars man

  • not to rain on your parade or anything, but the GTI is built in Mexico.

  • Mexico built in some many cars because they have the same quality of german and USA

    they built the PT cruiser the beetle the bora and Golf Strautus cirrus etc for all the world!

  • cars built in mexico are better than those in USA...there is always something wrong with usa built cars..

  • agree, like the ford aut tranny that always broke!

  • @ErSlickVic fuck you

  • @ErSlickVic Haha you're just sad the gti would crush your car!

  • melbastina you are an idiot,i have a 3 mps and i know how to drive and i hammer gti's every single time,some don't even bother as they will look foolish,you are just upset that you have no power and no imagination ohhh lets get a gti!ha ha you fool!280ft lbs of torque and yes i can get that down on the black stuff,bye bye sucker

  • I own a MS3..My Brother owns a VW GTI with an intake.. Stock for stock(intake) it all depends who gets the better launch so it's a drivers race between both. Both car's are bad ass so stop the bickering cheerleaders

  • the only beef i have is with veedub enthusastes attitudes.you guys thing you gti"s are the best, well guess waht thyer not, no car is. it is a nice car yes but stop thinking that gti gti gti its the best because, theres ALWAYS aa faster car on the road. unless of course you driv an 08 nissan GTR :P

  • not to player hate. but vw people. you piss the shit outa me. i own a mazdaspeed3. and ive raced many gti's and honestly. they get their a**es kicked every time. but thats not the point. the mps3 is a VERY good car, interiour, quality performance, everything. and im sure the git is too, i tried one before purcahsing mine. point is, bot cars arent american pieces of plastic poopoolike an srt4. they are both great cars.

  • im pro mazda cuz i have the mazda 3 2.3 GT sport.. but those gti are nice

  • VW is really taken over the hot hatch world it seems. Nice to see something besides white trash hondas.

  • you tools that is mazdaspeed 3. if regular it woulnt stand a chance.

    btw.

    GTi has very litte turbo lag compared to its compatitors like mps3, makes big diff.

    Both cars got very close 1/4 mile times.

    This race its all bout driving experiance.

    Both cars got a lot of potential.

  • Nexxxxxxxxxxt jooooooooooooke vw=gay

  • What is happening there is the MPS driver is a douche & the MPS has way more power than a FWD can use, particularly in a straight line like that. I've raced a few of the MPS's in my GTI, and IF they get a good start there is (if your lucky) half a length in it. Thankfully most guys that drive MPS3's are teenagers that got sucked in by the "fully sik" big numbers it produces.

    80-120kph is a different story, thats where the Mazdas engine shines, and a fat load of good that is on public roads.

  • LOL

    So many of you have no idea, that is a MS3 (MPS3), the hood, wheels and rear (check the diffuser) all give it away. If you can't see that get on a computer with a better screen FFS. Can't hear a turbo, no shit, listen to the back ground noise and the tyres.

  • it looks like a regular one i cant notice the spoiler of course it has one but not as big as ms3

  • i looks like speed3 but not suredont hear a turbo maybe cuz it has by passer

  • Its a MPS.But the GTI starts earlyer than the MPS.The MPS smoke ALL GTIs.

  • also pause it at 4 seconds notce the bottom rear diffuser is thick with an extra air duct on the very bottom along the red reflector inserts the regualr mazda 3 does not add those

  • you guys are idiots saying that it isn't an ms3. look at the hood its huge bulge give away the ram air ducting for the TMIC. fools.

  • LOL thats not a ms3 btw

  • nice compact cars boys.

  • it looks like the GTI smoked the MazdaSpeed3, hmmm...interesting.

  • Yeah, not only the rims that do not have straight spokes like the speed 3 but the spoiler is a big givaway. MS3 spoiler raises up on the car. this one is obviously frush with the car. GTI = weak

  • woops i mean regular haha

  • that car actually has only 160 hp, its a regualy mazda 3.

  • That's NOT a Mazdaspeed 3 aka 3 MPS, but this standard 3 still kicks ass :P

  • was that really a ms3??

    ms3 has 60 somthing more horspower and is lighter than the GTI

  • Those are Mazda 3s rims. Not mps/speed3 ones.

  • I dont know if that mazda was an mps or not, but the 3mps has 260hp..so i guess it would have won..so it cant be a 3mps..

  • Why can't the GTI pull away from the 156hp non turbo Mazda 3...?

  • the Mk5 GTI is trying to make himself look good. That mazda is by no means a MazdaSpeed 3. Its a regualar Mazda3 you can tell by the body style. Lack of a large spoiler, lower hood, differnt rims. I have a mazda3 and a mazdaspeed 3 i can easily tell the differents. and that there is a Mazda3. so the race was more like 200hp vs 160hp and imo that means the gti owner should be crying cuz that 160hp mazda3 kept pace whith his 200hp gti

  • Zoom zoom my ass. V-DUB in dah house!!!!!

  • V dubs are dope ive had a couple gtis. BUt the driver of the mazda must have had down syndrome. cause i smoke my brothers stock gti. you cant compare street drag whatever.

  • Thats not a mazdaspeed 3. Thats a regular 3. You can tell by the rims.

  • it looks like a mps which is basically the euro version of the speed3..i dunno shitty quality hard to see

  • no es un mazda 3 mps, no tiene aleron y el capo no es el mismo. asi que no pongais cosas sin sentido

  • maybe or maybe not, it depends on the track. throw a hill into the equation and i dont know if the honda could make it up with the shity amounts of torque those things have.

  • Are you sure? :D

  • well i just wached one lose to a type r... i think on that same track... lol

    does that mean that the type r licks "monkey balls"?

  • Shows how little you know, all you have is an opinion. You have no facts, otherwise, show me, or I simply will not ever take you sueriously. The Type R is well respected AI give you that. I respect it. But I dont not like comments like yours where "everything is shit except this kinda car" Im so fucking tired of you people...how about there all good just depends on what you prefer in a car. A little thing called compareing apples to oranges.

  • you suck... and so does your NA 4 cylinder

  • ... ohh Gott ist der Mazda Fahrer schlecht, der hat 60PS mehr als der GTI, der müsste den normalerweise fressen...

  • ohh really

  • lol the guy racing the ms3 sucks... mazdaspeed 3 is much faster than a GTI but the GTI has better handling

  • the mazdaspeed 3 is decent at 0-60 but where it really shines is highway pulls, it can take wrx sti's on the hgwy and eat v8's.

  • maybe a rolling start would be more true...

  • I will take a ms3 over the other thing any day when the after market catches up these cars are going to be FAST viper fast anyone run traction bars or dragradials on a ms3 yet

  • GTI RULES!

  • That guy in the Ms3 doesnt know how to drive....its way faster then the Vw forsure*

  • Why do ppl always have to make this you personal they are both verry decent cars both have there pros and cons i know i would be have driving the one or the other.

    so if you wont too compare do it good an not by trashing the other car.

    If yo watch programs like top gear or the fifth gear youl see that these cars are both verry good.

  • the reason that could make the gti win is if it had a dsg gearbox that makes the 0 to 60 time the same and the mazda or bad driving.

    about the build quality i dont know hawe a mazda is build so no comment there.

    and i dont know how they make vw over in mexico bet i live in europe here there made verry good i drive a golf4 and compared too other hatchbacks over here its a verry decent car.

  • pff seriously some ppl need too grow up.

    First of all lets not forget that the mazda has a 2.3liter engine and the golf a 2liter 260pk vs 200pk.

    so yes the mazda is a faster car.

    you dont wont me to compare a mazda mps to a golf r32 now do you.

  • go ahead dude, the r32 is slower than the mazdaspeed3, and that is with the times autoweek, car and driver and vw have put out, 0-60 in 6 sec. ms3 0-60 in 5.4

  • Yep, MPS3 is a little quicker from 0-60, and even more from a roll.

  • Ok, one of my best friends drives a MS3 and I drive a MKV GTI and I will tell you all the truth, they are the same in 1st and 2nd gear, as soon as we hit 3rd the MS3 is gone with a 4 car length win. Thats nothing a stage 1 reflash cant fix though. We have videos of me dusting him from a roll twice, but when he gets things right, I cant touch him

  • what you said is 100% fact and true. Lack of boost in 1st and 2nd in a mps 3 to stop wheel spin from factory.

  • I love Volkswagen Golfs but the Mazda honestly should have won, it does 0-60 in .7 seconds less than the Golf. Kid can't drive.

  • Someone with a modded GTI in New England please step up and run my mazda please.. so we can end all of this. Honestly..the kid in that ms3 couldnt drive. Any GTI on the stock turbo with ANY mods in NE post up. We need some friendly, filmed runs to put this all to rest.

  • I put some up of both cars stock, chk em out

  • was für ein scheiß ja der ferfickte golf hat nie im leben ein chance gegen den mps ja wat ist das ja fickt euch und gegen den type r auch nicht was sol die scheise ja fuck vw

  • i had a guy with a black GTI comment me on my black speed3 with mazda installed intake and exhaust. he wanted to make a run with me, but i dont street race and i woulda kicked his 200hp ass , him being stock anyways. speed all the way. get 2 good drivers, no gti can touch us

  • The reason the GTI won is because by the time the MS3 got the max HP to the pavement, the GTI was off and accelerating. The MS3 was still climbing the powerband to get to those over-rated 260 HP while the GTI had all the power at 1800 RPM.

  • so what is the excuse? the power band or the driver? to many lame excuses. VEE DUBS all the way

  • I know the MS3 has maybe 280 lb. ft. of torque. What about the GTI? Hard to believe it has 60 less hp but steal beat the MS3. Maybe the torque is higher than the MS3???

  • dude, the driver in this video sucked pretty bad, and so far I haven't had a GTI even come close to beating me in my MS3.

  • Ha, I didn't even think of that. But what could the driver of the MS3 done wrong? Short shifts?

  • its as simple as this....the guy does not know how to drive his speed 3

  • lol. Hmm... if I ever got behind the wheel of one of those, I'd handle some fuckin' business. =)

  • Yeah I was at the local drag strip here in Orlando and some dude with a 07 GTI and I were talking.. He even told me the car is crap and wishes he could get a mazdaspeed3. He tried but he was only offered 15k for his GTI!

  • i suggest that guy shove a pineapple up his ass. ill give him 15 dollars for it.

  • lol!! Sense when has a VW proven to be a realible car?? Even the current one is having major issues. MS3 had a motor mount issue and is now fine. THe MS3 rapes the GTI in every performance category get over it allready!! And it's very well made!!

  • lol, i see golf's with their hoods up with smoke coming out almost at every local drag

  • I didn't see any at that drag. =)

  • WOW buddy in the MPS learn how to drive your car....please....your embarassing yourself. learn to race then film...please. you give mazda drivers everywhere a bad name....you should be killing that VW piece of shit

  • SAfety VW all day..german steel and 6 airbags in my car..? some of the best traction control sstems EVER invented?? VW helped engineer the FASTEST car on the planet..the Bughatti Verone...?? BUt VW doesnt know what there doing right>? Ill take my 13 second MK4GTI ANYDAY over a Mazda..cuz racing in a mazda..is just like honda..even if you win..you drive a Japanese tin can

  • What does 900 000 euro super car have to do with two hatch backs? And your comment about safety is neither here nor there this is a drag racing video

  • u diddnt read my first part of the post..and some oneup above said it wasnt a reliable car and it was not well made..trying to make a point...and since VW helped engineer the 900000Euro super car i was proving thy know there shit.READ MY POST CAREFULLY

  • and for 2005 the GTI vs the SI vs the cobolt ss..the GTI outperforms ere way possible..and VS areknown for BEAUTIFUl interiors for the price you pay for a car..its the closest thing to low based luxury with performance you can buy other then an acura(which i also owned an RSX type S)..mazda is NOT anyway shape or form luxurious at all..

  • key word - old GTI

    Its no secret that the Mk2,3 and 4 were shit compared to the Mk1 and Mk5

    Sorry but Mazda is a jap company, you own nothing more than a honda in mazda clothing, the only advantage the speed3 has over a GTI in anything is its slightly faster and the GTI is more moddable so thats only for stock comparisons.

    Enjoy your speed3, when it falls apart and i roll by you, ill only laugh at you for a little while and feel sorry for you the rest of the time.

  • Look..i owned a MSP..it was GARBAGE it came witha decent sound system..thats it..MY gti is WAY faster even stock then the mazda..mazda has awful warrenty and believe methe suspension was NOT that good..as a matter afact u can view a comparson by car and driveer of the 04 GTIvs MSP vsCivicSi VSSentra SER..and the GTI out performs in EVERY way possible..

  • Too bad mazda uses a COMPLETELY different technology then almost every honda motor. But whatever, it's still faster than a VW.

  • HOW WIN????

  • I drove a vw ages ago, sure its a good build car. But it does drive a like 2nd rate turbo car when compared to a wrx or mazdaspeed 3.

    The whole debate happens due to jealous gti drivers that can't get over the fact the mazdaspeed is the quickest front wheel drive hot hatch. They are jealous and they know it. oooo what torque steer pfft it's only like a little bit plus if you didn't have girlyman arms it wouldn't be a issue.

  • It is quite hilarious that you have writen a two paragraph statement to defend your Mazdaspeed3, which in this video is clearly the loser to the MKV GTI.

    Fail.

  • It's quite hilarious you exist.

  • That was quite possibly the worst response I have seen on youtube.

    Fail.

  • Fail

    Fail

    Fail

    Im sure you went to university for that one.

    Another tosser VW driver.

    So from all the mazda drivers, know your role and shut your mouth.

  • Sorry to inform you, But I daily drive a Mazda3.

    And let me inform you, it is a horrible car.

    Unfortuniatly VolksWagen did not payoff Car and Driver to make people such as yourself tell them that their car is gods gift to the automobile.

    At the end of it you still drive a peice of 13 second lumber.

    Sell it.

  • sorry guys, but there has not been a VW to keep up with me yet. MS3 does take some time to learn how to drive, especially shifting 1000rpms before redline and a good launch. but even without that, by 3rd gear the VW would be in my rear view mirror.

  • lol I would be the first to admit you would win jared

  • yeah mate no problem doin that on the bigger tyres. 320rwhp straight to the road

  • Thats if you can get the power down on your old workhorse

  • my ls1 will blow u all away

  • agree @ WRXNE1, I drive a Mazda 3 Mps too and I can tell you there's no way a Golf GTI will beat my car :)

  • you are right, you have a faster car than the gti, but its still a mazda. new VW's have very good build quality and excellent balance, i would prefer that over a slightly faster car with poor build quality and interior.

  • The only way a gti can beat a mps 3 is due to a lack of skill.

  • A. I own a mps 3 and there is no way stock vs stock a gti can win.

    B. If you have gti drivers here saying that can't be done THEN it cant be done.

    C. The only way a gti could get ahead of a mps 3 is from take off, if the mps 3 driver is a newbie and cops to much wheel spin.

  • I am a gti owner and I say it can be done, gti with a good driver or dsg will beat your mazdaspeed3, at low it will be close, but at higher speeds your zoom zoom does not have a chance that's it.

  • If you said a gti was less heavy and less torque resulting in a cleaner take off then you might have a case. What you just said goes against all logic. How would a less powerful car with a smaller engine and a less factory tuned top speed beat a car with more power and a higher top end speed, which the cars weight is just about on par??? You go if it was a *good driver*, well if the mazdaspeed was a *good driver*. It wouldnt happen.

  • hahahaha MS3!!! no way a gti could beat a MS3 stock to stock or mods to mods!!! new