I really don't want this to become a ford v chevy, PC v mac, Reminton v...well that's different - but honestly each manufacturer has it's own strong and weak products, I have a Steyr SSG-69 P-II (double trigger) with a Mark 4 TMR that I have -->*and you could* <-- put one hole in using 3 rounds at 250 meters. prone. no wind. no cowyboying. just being careful. Build a Log Cabin in the middle of Alaska -- Colt 1911-A1 hands down. Strip, clean, oil, assemble and start walking again -- older Sig.
MY UNBIASED ACCOUNT OF A P226 FRAME WITH VARIOUS CALS USED ON IT: the 20,000 (9mm) round count is very low to give an idea of bbl life. Here is what one country- cop said when he took it from my holster during a tail light stop: THIS is THE MOST filthy gun I've EVER touched! (to be fair he's prop right)
I have several sigs, my oldest (P226) 9mm was when the letter U was for USN issued sidearms, I've had it 15-20 years and well over 20,000 round through mine with ONE stove-pipe (my fault), The
The longest gone without cleaning was about 8 months when it was rotated into a back-pack I always carry, and to keep 'mussel memory' it shot 150 rounds/month (no cleaning) with the last set of ten 40 round extended mags putting down no more than a 3 inch circle at 70 feet slow fire. Given a match barrel/slide/ mags (illegal for CA (extended threaded barrel and five 20 rd extended mags)
thought I'd see what happened if I 'heated it up' - loaded up 25 boxes of 50 at +1/2P and while my arm was tired, not a hint of even coming CLOSE to a jam after 1250 rounds without stopping except to re-load and rest my arm or find a more interesting target - dropped mags on ground of small gravel/ fine sand also shot prone from that surface -- misfires =0, first target at 70 feet had (no practice) 4.5 inch group of 2 mags -- last 2 mags 4 inch group opening to the right.
thought I'd see what happened if I 'heated it up' - loaded up 25 boxes of 50 at +1/2P and while my arm was tired, not a hint of even coming CLOSE to a jam after 1250 rounds without stopping except to re-load and rest my arm or find a more interesting target - dropped mags on ground of small gravel/ fine sand also shot prone from that surface -- misfires =0, first target at 70 feet had (no practice) 4.5 inch group of 2 mags -- last 2 mags 4 inch group opening to the right.
For my money, give me my sig and ammo as a side arm. Have only had about 3K rounds of 257 sig through that barrel which was broken in correctly like my first sig 9mm slide bbl. Put 500 rounds through it in about an hour one day, first 2 mags at 1.755 inch grouping slow-fire, second grouping of 2 mags just over 3 inches slow fire at 70-75 feet. No jams -- same frame just different slide/bbl sitting on top. No factory work at all, just home cleaning and sometimes an overnight soak in kerosene.
Nope, not paid for by sig - though would someone tell them so they might THINK about their tricked out match P-226!!!! PLEASE!!!! CALIBER doesn't seem to matter, hand or UMC load doesn't seem to matter - the bluing looks like poop since I sanded it off to engrave it, changed my mind, and just use Pacmyer grips and have a pair of unmounted sig-night-lights. So you go figure what you want -- accuracy quick-swap-n-clean, and longevity with reliability, or the brand-(placement)-du jour.
People seem to want to gripe over anything. Good video with an even better pistol! I'm not going to make any negative comments about only shooting 150 rounds for this test, for two reasons. 1) Sig has already been proven to be among the most reliable handguns in the world. 2) Ammo isn't cheap!
A well maintained Sig should last nearly a lifetime. This is why the Navy Seals chose the P226 as one of their official firearms.
My glock 19 has over 6000 rounds failure free with original springs. I had a usp 40 that had I don't know how many thousands thew it without failures of any kind. Unless you get an out of spec gun most modern firearms are incredibly reliable in my experience.
150rds without a failure isn't much of an accomplishment. That's like being excited about your car not breaking down on your way to the grocery store.
@Gladeator123 Are you serious with this comment? Would you really trust a gun that will have a failure once every 200 rounds? I'm not saying that the Sig will fail that often, but there's more to a firearms reliability than "successfully fire 24 rounds because that's all we'll possibly need in a defensive situation".
@netchemica Fair enough, I see the point but its not like i'm going out with a hi-point loaded with weak-reloads, the Sig is extremely reliable, but I think the main point is to know your weapon and how it works, Cheers
I will attest to that. I've run about 600 rds in my own P229 since nov (I cycle through several pistols) and not a single reliability issue. I trust the P229 with my life. If things ever went wrong and I could chose only one gun to use to defend myself out of ANYTHING out there THIS would be the one.
I've shot 155 rounds out of my sig sauer p229 SCT .40 and have had no jams, no failure to feeds, no failure to loads... I own 3 sigs and neither of them have ever jammed yet. My 9mm p229 I have 550 rounds and no malfunctions at all... To hell and back reliability. What ammunition are you using btw?
I really don't want this to become a ford v chevy, PC v mac, Reminton v...well that's different - but honestly each manufacturer has it's own strong and weak products, I have a Steyr SSG-69 P-II (double trigger) with a Mark 4 TMR that I have -->*and you could* <-- put one hole in using 3 rounds at 250 meters. prone. no wind. no cowyboying. just being careful. Build a Log Cabin in the middle of Alaska -- Colt 1911-A1 hands down. Strip, clean, oil, assemble and start walking again -- older Sig.
pgalioni 2 months ago
MY UNBIASED ACCOUNT OF A P226 FRAME WITH VARIOUS CALS USED ON IT: the 20,000 (9mm) round count is very low to give an idea of bbl life. Here is what one country- cop said when he took it from my holster during a tail light stop: THIS is THE MOST filthy gun I've EVER touched! (to be fair he's prop right)
I have several sigs, my oldest (P226) 9mm was when the letter U was for USN issued sidearms, I've had it 15-20 years and well over 20,000 round through mine with ONE stove-pipe (my fault), The
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The longest gone without cleaning was about 8 months when it was rotated into a back-pack I always carry, and to keep 'mussel memory' it shot 150 rounds/month (no cleaning) with the last set of ten 40 round extended mags putting down no more than a 3 inch circle at 70 feet slow fire. Given a match barrel/slide/ mags (illegal for CA (extended threaded barrel and five 20 rd extended mags)
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thought I'd see what happened if I 'heated it up' - loaded up 25 boxes of 50 at +1/2P and while my arm was tired, not a hint of even coming CLOSE to a jam after 1250 rounds without stopping except to re-load and rest my arm or find a more interesting target - dropped mags on ground of small gravel/ fine sand also shot prone from that surface -- misfires =0, first target at 70 feet had (no practice) 4.5 inch group of 2 mags -- last 2 mags 4 inch group opening to the right.
pgalioni 2 months ago
thought I'd see what happened if I 'heated it up' - loaded up 25 boxes of 50 at +1/2P and while my arm was tired, not a hint of even coming CLOSE to a jam after 1250 rounds without stopping except to re-load and rest my arm or find a more interesting target - dropped mags on ground of small gravel/ fine sand also shot prone from that surface -- misfires =0, first target at 70 feet had (no practice) 4.5 inch group of 2 mags -- last 2 mags 4 inch group opening to the right.
pgalioni 2 months ago
For my money, give me my sig and ammo as a side arm. Have only had about 3K rounds of 257 sig through that barrel which was broken in correctly like my first sig 9mm slide bbl. Put 500 rounds through it in about an hour one day, first 2 mags at 1.755 inch grouping slow-fire, second grouping of 2 mags just over 3 inches slow fire at 70-75 feet. No jams -- same frame just different slide/bbl sitting on top. No factory work at all, just home cleaning and sometimes an overnight soak in kerosene.
pgalioni 2 months ago
Nope, not paid for by sig - though would someone tell them so they might THINK about their tricked out match P-226!!!! PLEASE!!!! CALIBER doesn't seem to matter, hand or UMC load doesn't seem to matter - the bluing looks like poop since I sanded it off to engrave it, changed my mind, and just use Pacmyer grips and have a pair of unmounted sig-night-lights. So you go figure what you want -- accuracy quick-swap-n-clean, and longevity with reliability, or the brand-(placement)-du jour.
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When Someone Says Something Bad about a Sig, The Sentence Usually Ends with "My Glock"
JOHNM3791 3 months ago
People seem to want to gripe over anything. Good video with an even better pistol! I'm not going to make any negative comments about only shooting 150 rounds for this test, for two reasons. 1) Sig has already been proven to be among the most reliable handguns in the world. 2) Ammo isn't cheap!
A well maintained Sig should last nearly a lifetime. This is why the Navy Seals chose the P226 as one of their official firearms.
tnpataka 8 months ago
Why do you readjust your grip after each shot : /
pocat6 9 months ago
Also, the Smith and Wesson M&P fired over 62,000 rounds with only 2 stoppages during the endurance test performed by pistol-training
netchemica 10 months ago
My glock 19 has over 6000 rounds failure free with original springs. I had a usp 40 that had I don't know how many thousands thew it without failures of any kind. Unless you get an out of spec gun most modern firearms are incredibly reliable in my experience.
rangerdanger222 1 year ago
I'm so fucking annoyed right now, I will not watch another of this dude's vids. Ahhhhh freedom.
ballenb17 1 year ago
Go for 15,000 and you've got a real test
Goodspittin 1 year ago
Try 5-600 a day in an average intermediate to advance level class and then get back to me about being impressed.
FrankeNoveske 1 year ago
150rds without a failure isn't much of an accomplishment. That's like being excited about your car not breaking down on your way to the grocery store.
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Exactly! Try 5-600 a day in an average intermediate to advance level class and then get back to me about being impressed.
FrankeNoveske 1 year ago
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@netchemica Exactly! Try 5-600 a day in an average intermediate to advance level class and then get back to me about being impressed.
FrankeNoveske 1 year ago
@netchemica U gotta start some were right dude!!!!! you can't reach 1,000 without hitting 150 first.
JoeDaddy40 11 months ago
@netchemica yeah but are you really going to need to fire 150 rounds in a gunfight?
Gladeator123 10 months ago
@Gladeator123 Are you serious with this comment? Would you really trust a gun that will have a failure once every 200 rounds? I'm not saying that the Sig will fail that often, but there's more to a firearms reliability than "successfully fire 24 rounds because that's all we'll possibly need in a defensive situation".
netchemica 10 months ago
@netchemica Fair enough, I see the point but its not like i'm going out with a hi-point loaded with weak-reloads, the Sig is extremely reliable, but I think the main point is to know your weapon and how it works, Cheers
Gladeator123 10 months ago
That's a good day at the range.
fieldx200 1 year ago
I have a P220 .45 & P229 .40 both flawless guns.
twhiteh3 1 year ago
the worst part is using all your ammo :(
ibanezkid07 1 year ago
i can shoot 500 of my reloads out of my S&W sigma, aslong as is not a hi-point everything will be ok.
fireline6 1 year ago
who dislike this is an ASSHOLE!!!!
Kure997 1 year ago
i shoot the Sig .40 DAK as my service weapon - great gun.
try not resetting your grip after every shot.
anthojoe 1 year ago
I've put about 600 rounds through my 229R so far without an issue. Factory sights are dead on, recoil is super smooth for a .40, it's an amazing gun.
gforcewarrior 1 year ago
I have about 3,600 on the one I have and not once did it not go BANG, Amo was good to.
dbi1036 1 year ago
You may want to stop lifting your support hand/fingers from your grip.
GregandNancyW 1 year ago
Ive got a Sig P250R 45 and am considering getting the 229R 40 because of round capacity.
Ranger4321 1 year ago
I will attest to that. I've run about 600 rds in my own P229 since nov (I cycle through several pistols) and not a single reliability issue. I trust the P229 with my life. If things ever went wrong and I could chose only one gun to use to defend myself out of ANYTHING out there THIS would be the one.
friskyrabbit 2 years ago
Love the feel, reliability, balance and ergonomics of the sig. Sig Sauer FTW!
mdunn604 2 years ago 5
I've shot 155 rounds out of my sig sauer p229 SCT .40 and have had no jams, no failure to feeds, no failure to loads... I own 3 sigs and neither of them have ever jammed yet. My 9mm p229 I have 550 rounds and no malfunctions at all... To hell and back reliability. What ammunition are you using btw?
Armed24seven 2 years ago
This was Federal range ammo from Walmart. It was like $14.99 for a box of 50.
flagstamp 2 years ago
yeah thats what I used to break in my gun too. same price too. I should have bought all them but I just bought 2 boxes for .40
Armed24seven 2 years ago
@flagstamp I love Walmart
Sonnedude 1 year ago