Thom Hartmann: The final words of a killer that should not be ignored

[abeismain]

Good thing we have ron paul for president to relieve us of this hate propaganda.

[himatwardakafghan]

@baltimoredude: ur the reason why US is what it is today!! Its ppl ignorant like U responsible for millions all over the globe!! U are ignorant.. I feel sorry for u!! May be u should educate urself.. Buy some books and read them instead of watching utube videos and commenting like a rat behind the computer screen with 0 knowledge in head and some hay!! peace and remember my words!

[baltimoredude1]

are fueling hatred too. May be now it becomes clear Islam is as much of a bull shit like Christianity or any other religion. Ignorance fueled with hatred, fear and religion makes it a big juxtapose resulting in a big Nothing

[baltimoredude1]

I was born to Bangladeshi Muslim family before deserting Islam. Out of the two men that were killed, one was an Indian Hindu, while the other a Pakistani Muslim. Stroman's deplorable idiotic action is fueled by idiots like Fox News, Peter King and all. Muslims are no Saints. Last month, Saudi Arabia beheaded 8 Bangladeshi Muslim men in public, without giving any fair trial. At least here we have an accountable system, in most of the Muslim world they don't. Saudi Arabia and the House of Sauds

[iselaveg]

Totally agree...

[salptl]

Finally someone talking sense on the American media. This is the same all over the world, politicians spreading fear that creates hate. In india the most terrorist attacks and people killed by terrorist are by the Maoist seperatists, yet Muslims are blamed by media everytime something terrorist related happens.

[asadwaseer]

Thanks for bring some sence to the world. May Allah reward you for that.

[DavidMX303]

Powerful Message if u accept it!!!

[arfatx]

It's a nature of human being, if your country's resource is lack, the best thing is to conquer another country, replace their government and start enjoy a new resources. But there must be tactic how to do that. Fake the history? Propaganda? Then it is set. It's like Command & Conquer game I played last year.

[87JenBunny]

This is really sad...



[succeed06]

US killed its own people on 9/11 then manipulated the minds of the american people though propaganda all to justify their invasion of other countries...exactly what hitler did to the jews during world war 2

[waqas01200]

Terrorist=politics

[ebbotube]

Islam is about love and peace

[cklksgud]

Are the people who are in power often the ones that are most ignorant?? Couldn't help thinking about it after watching this video. I am a proud Muslim and no terrorist!

[Pegasolta1992]

I swear to god, I'm a muslim & i'm no terrorist.. i go to work, i play with my friends, i go the movies, i have fun, i'm good to my family, i pray, i play many kind of sports.. well used to now i just play video games xD.. we are normal too !! why americans are so freakin racist !! WHY !!?? come to the middle east and see for yourself how normal people are?? HATRED WILL BLIND YOU FOREVER if u keep embracing it :(

[nyzarab]

this is so sad and ppl who hate muslims r so pathethic and scared u let news fill ur heads with bullshit and believe nethin muslims r the best and we arent terrorist not our fault ppl fear us its funny and sad u all r so obession with muslims at the end its us standing last like we always do :)

[Uzair2gud4u]

americans are just delusional & retarded. they think all muslims have some sort of ties with al qaeda, yet usa itself is Al qaeda

[JimBoCycle]

The only muslims connected to 911 were the isreali agents arrested driving truck bombs DRESSED as muslims...

[kangal48]

Damn America! You are killing yourself! Islam is a solution to humanity, it is a blessing of USA that Islam entered there, don't destroy it, accept it!

[miankhail]

@cwhunbun do you know that isrealis came to the land of palestine and occupy that please read history! it was not there own land and also i am requesting you to realize that all Muslims are not terrorist because i am a Muslim and i live in Pakistan and i have many christian friends as well! i doesn't make all of us terrorist and we are well educated and well mannered people. Islam teaches the message of peace & not hate. 9/11 is doing of some idiotic fools not ours! Please read Quran u will kne

[cwhunbun]

@miankhail Not once did I say Muslims are terrorists and I have Muslim friends, but Islamic Fundamentalists exist & you can not deny it. CAIR even has ties with terrorists. The flotilla to send aid to Gaza this year was funded by Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who are known American terrorist. PLO operative, Rashid Khalidi was also involved. This was not a humanitarian mission it was to be a violent political action in the name of peace.Terrorist use Sharia finance as a form of silent Jihad.

[the3idiots14]

I'm a christian (methodist) and this is absurd of the politicians to accuse muslims of being terrorists, I have plenty of muslim friends.

[TheLansoprazole]

Why DOnt White Moved back to Europe and Leave American for its Native Indians ?

[dragonup56]

if u look closely all the people saying all muslims are crazy is on fox news, weird.........................­..

[dragonup56]

lol he was bad at shooting if we only got 2 people

[LondonChicka007]

@dragonup56 what a disgusting human being u are, hope your family members dont get shot, or maybe i do and u will know the pain.

[dragonup56]

@LondonChicka007 it was more of a joke but ok thx

[EVILAKUMA]

Americans.. they are being fed poison on t.v , false news , subliminal movies , shows , being fed alcohol , drugs , sex , guns , porn , video games ( shooting games ) They control EVERYTHING. The truth wont get to you.

being DESTROYED and thats what THEY want... who is THEY?

well you are a fuking idiot if you dont know who THEY is.

THEY want to CONTROL THE FUKING WORLD. AND they dont give a rats ass about you americans , stop being SHEEP .... Obama , hahah he aint brringing no change

[sunnyahsan1]

about 20 years ago my uncle was shot and murdered in a store and my family didnt give him the death sentence

[monanas]

Si la personne qui a tué + de 90 personnes en Norvège avait été Musulmane, la Presse l'aurait déclarée comme étant "Terroriste". Contrairement à ça, l'assassin est nommé "Agresseur" (Reuters), "Homme Armé" (BBC, CNN & Al Jazeera). Le terme "Terroriste" serait consacré aux musulmans. Les USA parlent d'un Acte de Violence et non d'un Acte Terroriste. Que le monde sache que l'hypocrisie règne.

[monanas]

If a person who killed the 90+ in Norway was a Muslim, the Press would have declared him as a terrorist. For now though, he is just an 'Assailant ', 'Attacker' (Reuters), 'Gunman' (BBC, CNN & Al Jazeera). Looks like 'Terrorist ' is a name reserved for Muslims? The US Dept of State calls it an 'Act of Violence', not an 'Act of Terrorism' . Share this status and let the world know hypocrisy is leading us all astray

[vortexZXR]

Interesting on how Westernerns are always the hating ones, yet you all forget about the hate coming from the other side...

[cwhunbun]

@vortexZXR You are correct hate is a 2 way street!

[84PinkBLossom]

thanks

[venosid]

awesome video... extremely enlightening...!!!

[cwhunbun]

It would be nice if Muslims would stand up and denounce Radical Islam. Hamas, Hezbollah and Al-Qaeda are real threats, but we hear no out cry from the Muslim community! We have organizations like CAIR that are trying to create a Muslim State right here in America. Sharia Law is in conflict with the Rule of Law so that will never happen. Crazy's in America and Norway are not so organized as to selling drugs to fund their war and using children in their armies. God Bless him for forgiving!

[imank91]

@cwhunbun Hamas and Hezbollah are not the problem. Israel and the USA are. It would be nice if sensible Westerners would stand up and denounce Israel and the USA's foreign policy.

[cwhunbun]

@imank91"Israel is not a legitimate entity, and no amount of pressure can force us to recognize its right to exist."Dr. Mahmud Al-Zahar,Hamas leader in Gaza, Washington Times,2/4/06 "Before Israel dies, it must be humiliated and degraded. Allah willing,before they die,they will experience humiliation and degradation every day."Dr.Mahmud Al-Zahar,Hamas leader in Gaza,Washington Times,2/4/06 Yeah nice bunch of folks there!

[cwhunbun]

@imank91 Dr.Yussuf Al-Sharafi, Hamas rep, 4/12/07 Palestinian Media Watch,4/23/07"This is Islam, that was ahead of its time with regards to human rights in the treatment of prisoners,but our nation was tested by the cancerous lump,that is the Jews, in the heart of the Arab nation.Be certain US is on its way to utter destruction, US is wallowing [in blood]today in Iraq and Afghanistan, America is defeated & Israel is defeated, & was defeated in Lebanon & Palestine.(con't)

[cwhunbun]

@imank91 (con't) Make us victorious over the community of infidels... Allah, take the Jews and their allies, Allah, take the Americans and their allies... Allah, annihilate them completely and do not leave anyone of them." Sounds like a threat to me!

[aazhbd]

@cwhunbun, Though, that's just one person, but even if Muslims are really feeling enmity for anyone the question is why? Why do you think that the middle-east might threat these countries specially? Don’t you think that, it is because USA and Israel has been over their country, killing civilians, children, women altogether occupying their countries? Like Israel in Palestine, or USA in Afghanistan, Iraq and many other countries. How would you feel if someone else would have occupied your country?

[Unity4allhumans]

@cwhunbun I try to explain it for the dummies. Click on anysearch engine and type Muslims condemn terrorism. You will get your questions answered. Its simple steps that go a long way when your got a case of hind sight.

[thecoolwater]

@cwhunbun Yeah thats your problem.....what you call " Radical Islam " is not Islam at all!! you do dont you that what these terrorists do is actually mostly opposite to the teachings of Islam. Point is, you cant blame Islam, the religion just because some a**h*les choose call themselves Muslims and blow stuff.

PS: why doesn't America condemn the human rights violations taking place in Palestine??

[thecoolwater]

@thecoolwater *realize

[cwhunbun]

@thecoolwater Islam is political culture and has an emergence of a transnational highly militarized Islamic youth. America does condemn the Human Rights violations .... you are confusing the issue! It is not up to America to give Palestine their own state at the risk of Israel loosing its borders to protect itself as the region is still unstable. Look at what is going on in all of the Arab world!!! The hostilities are great between the Islamic fundamentalists and the Israelis.

[cwhunbun]

@thecoolwater What are we to do trade off human rights violations from one country to another? You forget they are suffering human rights violations from their own government.

[oelhayek]

perfectly said!

[TheSolitaryRex]

Russia Today is the best news agency, totally unbiased.

[TheSolitaryRex]

Wahabbism/Shiaism has defamed Islam.

[jimmybobs999]

'eye for an eye' .... lol

[maverickguy12]

@cardcreekdesign Do you know who the black man was in the video making the anti-Muslim comments?? How is that not political?

[86crud]

Eye for an eye is a limit, not a recommendation.

[nadergholipour]

animals!!! stop Killing each other!!!

once you stoped then you can call yourself humans!

you can talk you can think and you can solve problems by negotiation.

a murderer is a sick creatur he is not able to think this is a risponsibility of other people to understand this, not to act as one of them!

[sakh06]

Nice words.... for people who have sense ...

[alteredbeasts]

Just drop religion and be done with it all!

[myleftwing]

Munsterchief, I have no idea what the point of your comment is. Me, Im with Bhuyian.

[Ms9man]

I congratulate RT and the presentator for this beautiful report.

[Brie217]

Hatred is part of the Muslim religion; I'm glad this man did not go along with his own religion.

[derwentalia]

@Brie217 hatred is part of christianity. or are you conveniently forgetting the old testament? christianity is one of the most perverted religions around spreading more hate than islam ever could and responsible for mass genocides....it wasnt the muslims who massacred and enslaved the blacks and american indians....it wasnt the muslims who sexually molested little american indian kids in boarding schools, it was christians...all christians

[Brie217]

@derwentalia Those weren't Christians. Jesus was very clear about people who do such things and that there would be people who would claim that they were Christians and are not.

[Metusion]

@derwentalia Now read the new testament and see if you can find passages condoning that sort of stuff and the old testament isn't perverted. the nations that were eradicated were perverted and sacrificing children.. clearly you have some history to catch up on

[Brie217]

The people who did 911 were our own government.

[bucolic1]

@Brie217 and the mossad were there filming the 1st plane hitting the tower and were cheering and giving each other high five till they were caught and sent home to Israel...

[Lightmane321]

Don't 'cha love when you listen to Thom so eloquently preach against hate & fear & at the same time you have people who say that Thom is a Nazi & the "biggest hatemonger of them all" yet provide no evidence at all, to back up their words of hate. They just say it, cause they know if you keep repeating something, people will believe it

[Munsterchief]

As a Muslim American I feel obligated to call out all of the other Muslims and ask them, why do you sit so idly behind? there are crazy people out there barely making 1 percent of the Muslim population that tarnish what it is to be a called a Muslim. We have sick brothers that are serving as a microcosm to our religion as full of hate when Islam is actually a religion of peace. It is our duty to call out and ostracize these so called fanatics, or else this hatred will continue to threat mankind

[derwentalia]

@Munsterchief the same thing is true of the christian religion. people always forget about the bloody history that the christian religion is responsible for.....but today most christians will call it a religion of love and peace.

[airpickone]

@Munsterchief Yeah okay, cool story. Anything else? As a Muslim American I bet your sure as hell proud of your 'military'. You must be proud of the millions of muslims killed by your government. You must be proud that your tax payer dollars are bombing and killing innocent muslims. You SUPPORT a oppressive government. Don't deny it. You are the living evidence for it. You might claim that you disagree with your government, but that doesn't stop you from being a 'proud american'.

[Munsterchief]

@airpickone I understand your argument, but its not that black and white. Sure we perhaps shouldn't have been and be in places we don't belong such as Afghanistan, but America, like any other nation, has national interests and must act by definition to preserve such interests whether or not that is also in the best interest of another country. Call me confused or what have you, but my country has been good to me, and can confidently say that yes, I'm proud to be an American.

[Munsterchief]

@airpickone also, my fellow Muslims should probably stop bombing and killing each other before they worry about external issues. Civil disputes cannot be ignored by utilizing scapegoats such as Israel and America are the threats to Islam, the real problem is within Islam itself. I doesn't matter if you're Sunni, Shiite, or what other sect of Islam you adhere to, you don't hurt other people regardless of their ethnicity, especially your fellow Muslims.

[airpickone]

@Munsterchief LMAO look at the way our speaking. You blame everything on the Muslims? you stupid fool go read a book, If it wasn't for European colonialism the Muslim world would still be united under the Caliphate, that ruled the Muslim world for 1000 years. If I was you, I would fear Allah (swt) and stop being an oppressor. Because from the hadith of the Prophet (saw) supporting an oppressor makes you an oppressor. You have the blood of Muslims on your hands.

[airpickone]

@airpickone your*

[anwar470]

@airpickone if it wasnt for the europeans u bastard arab muslims wud have destroyed the world by now..

[popcan4u]

@Munsterchief They have been but those people are either ignored or aren't willing to be heard. Maybe you should call upon the American discourse to open their ears and try to hear what Muslim in North America have been trying to say for well over two decades now.

[maverickguy12]

@cardcreekdesign @adscorpion8 Perhaps if you lived in or around NY city during 911 or had relatives involved then you might have a bit of intolerance or fear. To not profile or search 5 middle eastern guys getting on a plane that dont speak English would be ignorant. The TSA can strip search me right alongside the middle easterners if it would make you happy. Some of you speak like you have no skin in the game. You obviously dont know any 911 victims. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice...

[cardcreekdesign]

@maverickguy12 I'm from NY. I don't need to told of the tragedy of 9/11 sir. I still fail to see politics at play in this. other than your assertion of it.

[RBLA818]

How many Americans are harmed by Muslims?

How many Americans are harmed by US Health Theft Companies?

How many Americans are harmed by US Corporations?

How many Americans are harmed by US CEOs?

How many Americans are harmed by Republican Politicians?

[truthout911]

And Thom is the biggest hatemonger of them all

[maverickguy12]

Great story right up to the point that you pulled in the politics...

[cardcreekdesign]

@maverickguy12 forgive me, I didn't hear Thom reference either party as a source of hate and fear. I could be wrong, but I didn't hear Republican or Democrat in that sense..

[maverickguy12]

@cardcreekdesign Notice when the news guy mentioned hate groups he didnt mention any radical Muslim groups? Who tried to take down the WTCs the first time? Yes many Muslims in this country are peaceful. But if you are naive enough to believe that there aren't Muslims in the world that want to destroy the U.S. using any means possible, then I have a few bridges to sell you. Irans Ahmadinejad wants to wipe Israel off the planet. Is he radical and should we try to stop him and his supporters?

[jw12yrsctch]

@maverickguy12 if you are stupid enough to think radical Muslims are going to harm you, then fear has you by the balls. Christian fundamentalists are the threat to the world, and have been for 1500 years.

[cardcreekdesign]

@maverickguy12 Thom Hartmann doesn't need to mention muslim, FOX news is doing that, as well as Herman Cain and Steven King. But it doesn't discount the threat from nationalists in our midst or neo nazis or christian extremists. Nor does it invalidate the uplifting message from Mr Stroman on his death bed. That It is hate and fear and intolerance that is killing us. External threats like Iran are not the focus of this post. Rather, it is the internal threats from intolerant Americans that is.

[radscorpion8]

@maverickguy12 I think the key message is that hate and or fear isn't going to do anything to help. For example, say racial profiling of muslim Americans. Do you think that intentionally targeting, and segregating this group from the rest of Americans would make things better? All religions may have some fundamentalist aspects, but its secular reasoning and the strength of society that brings people around. Fear and hatred only promote the things you want to avoid

[wolfhybred]

@maverickguy12 Wrong Ahmedinejad never threatened to wipe Israel off the map. "The zionist regime occupying jerusalem will disapear in the pages of time the way of the Soviet regime and the Shas' regime." Now did Iran wipe itself or the Soviets off the map? No. He was calling for regime change. He was basically saying they will fall of their own doing. Do some research. In case you haven't noticed our media and government repeat lies to us over and over until we and even they believe it.

[vito4260]

Don't be so friggin' naive!

[ummakhan1512]

@vito4260 Naive? Look in the mirror before you live with that notion, please. Brilliant video, very ON POINT--stop the hate.

[slipperypete619]

What exactly is a "black separatist"?

[fosheezeey]

As long as money determines our lives, we will continue to see the degeneration of our morals, common sense, compassion, among the planet itself. In a Resource Based Economy there would be nothing to 'protect' ourselves from, or separate ourselves from. We would realize we are all one, and there would be no reason to fight. It is money which breeds war, poverty, ignorance, scarcity, competition, starvation, resource depletion etc.. Check out the Venus Project, watch Zeitgeist Moving Forward.

[SpencerMoseley]

How's was that Muslim forgiveness on 9/11? How about all of the other attacks like USS Cole, Fort Dix, Embassey attacks in Kenya and Tanzaia, Bali night club...

[JDaKingman]

@SpencerMoseley 9/11 was a staged false flag EVERYBODY knows that. I'm not gonna prove it to you either because evidence is EVERYWHERE

[gilgamesh1962]

@SpencerMoseley Not long ago, a couple of American young men went to a local school, and started opening fire on everyone, without mercy. they were American, and so are you, so I guess your just as Bad as them because you are from the same country right? after all this is YOUR LOGIC! Muslims attacked 911, so by your thinking all Muslims are the same. its that kind of thinking that caused 911 in the first place.

[SpencerMoseley]

@gilgamesh1962 There is a huge difference and if you don't see it then you are truely blind. first the two American teenagers were almost two decades ago and they were universally reviled for their actions. If they lived they would have already bee executed just like Timothy McVeigh. Everyone decried their actions and said it was wrong. This is not the case when it come to Muslims. There is very little revulsion for terrorist acts in their society and martrys are revered. Huge difference!

[gilgamesh1962]

@SpencerMoseley Your comparing Apples and Oranges, If the Terrorist didnt commit suicide while blowing up the Twin towers , They SHOULD be put to trial and if the death penalty is given, they should be put to death, But only an IDIOT would punish someone because they have something in common with a guilty person or group. that like saying "Oh your just as bad as so and so because he was blond and Christian too, even came from the same State. Just plain dumb !!

[SpencerMoseley]

@gilgamesh1962 You miss the obvious point - the Muslim terrorists are supported by their community, while Christian terrorists are not. All terrorists should be put to death but my point is Muslim terrorists are often beloved, revered and supported. Huge obvious difference.

[gilgamesh1962]

@SpencerMoseley nd how do YOU know that the victims in this store supported the terrorist? The FACT is, Not even a fraction of 1% of Muslims in the world supported or sympathized with what the Taliban did, as a matter of fact, they were mostly all for us ( The US ) to go in for some payback, ( eye for an eye ), what most of the world was against was our illegal invasion of Iraq. and the lies from Washington. just because someone protest what the US does, doesn't mean they are terrorist.

[gilgamesh1962]

- " assumption is the mother of all f**k ups " extremist only make up a small percentage in any community, thats why they call them extremist. and your comment that "Christian terrorist are not supported by their community but Muslims terrorist are" is proof of your bias and wishful thinking this is what YOU THINk and assume it has something to do with some kind of reality.

[derwentalia]

@SpencerMoseley now thats a blatant lie/distortion. you clearly know nothing about christian terrorism, so go learn something then come back and we can discuss this. until then, its pointless.

[derwentalia]

@gilgamesh1962 but thats how it works in america....and with americans. they themselves support the worlds biggest terrorist (their country) but because its THEM doing it, of course its okay. theres no real difference between a fanatical christian american and a fanatical muslim other than sides.

[TheAngryAmericanwon]

thank you RT in showing us the Big Picture in our own country! If only we could all live together in this world, in a single country without hate and fear...

[JDaKingman]

@TheAngryAmericanwon For now it seems that's impossible. I also wouldn't waste my time trying to pursue that either. Just sayin'.

[TheAngryAmericanwon]

@JDaKingman RIGHT! I know we can live without the fear and hate, we can do it.. we need to work Humanity!

[JDaKingman]

@TheAngryAmericanwon Sure :)

[TheAngryAmericanwon]

@JDaKingman rebuilding humanity for years to come! surely 2012 will be like hell, imagine paying $50 a gallon for milk and $100 just for a loaf of bread! that shit is crazy!!

[JDaKingman]

@TheAngryAmericanwon "Rebuilding Humanity" huh? Hmmmm....What is your picture of a "rebuilt" "humanity'?

[TheAngryAmericanwon]

@JDaKingman Rebuilding Humanity! meaning anyway the doesn't involve weapons, fear, hate! have you ever noticed that human kind just repeats themselves over and over and over, how many times do you think Mankind has populated the earth? because of our habits and how we repeat ourselves it should made clear what we aren't suppose to do!!

[JDaKingman]

@TheAngryAmericanwon What are we supposed to do?

[TheAngryAmericanwon]

@JDaKingman I am working on that solution what we are supposed to do, until then you will be the first to know! only thing right now we can do is stop funding the war, stop paying our taxes.. lets not follow in the foot steps of our ancestors instead by making our paths and travel down better roads where one day we will find the answer to our problems.

[JDaKingman]

@TheAngryAmericanwon Okay. Here's a small bit of my fantasy of a "Unified and Peaceful Humanity". ALL continents have independent countries with official borders. Each country has a mixture of a trade and resource-based economy. Each country is a complete Republican Democracy. The governments are all completely transparent and are for the people and the country's best interests. All citizens have the right to own and use firearms. Lobbyism is illegal. Domestic use of Cannabis is legal.

[TheAngryAmericanwon]

@JDaKingman sounds good! I think you mean Republic Democracy, The government is suppose to be there for the people of its country. I agree Lobbyism should be illegal and way to go for Marijuana!

[JDaKingman]

@TheAngryAmericanwon hehe thanx. Yeah that's what i meant!

[TheAngryAmericanwon]

@TheAngryAmericanwon we have to figure out how to change ourselves from the inside out, I am afraid that will take sometime to learn!

[jbruell94]

Thank you RT for being a good alternative media. You guys are awesome!

[Xilmwa]

Hate + Fear + Target = Nazi Germany.

[deracinated1]

Wile your being beat down by an extremist,as his friends rape your family. your community, country,just remain passive,and dish out the love and forgiveness.What that crazy man did happens every day.Thom's message is meant to lull you to sleep. everything is all right. they system is working for you.YOUR MEANT TO GET ANGRY AND PROTECT YOUR SELF.Hart mann, acting like his way is the only way.Using this instance,as some sort of text book example.morphing 2/3 topics to give you one lump of shit.

[megagagnon1]

Border vigilantes are a hate group? They rightfully want our border protected and are doing something about it.

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[Kardiatheon]

I belive life behind bars, but in this case I really have to change my mind