Chavez did not kill Martin Luther King, nor Kennedy, nor one million people for oil with lies, nor intelligent services sending Anthrax virus letters to its own population while blaming other country, nor 3000 nuclear weapons pointing to all the countries in the world, nor spending extreme corrupted communist 700 billion dollars on military expenditures every year, nor world record of drug addicts, nor CNN or FOX Nazi retarded, nor 13 trillion dollars debt.
That bastard Bush I criminal told Sadam that if he invades Kuwait he will respect the sobereign desicion of Iraq then killed 500 thousand people in the war. But before that former president Reagan was talking about make the USA energy independent then after he got shot by someone; the same asshole vice president Bush took charge an they forgot the issue; today thanks to its son and the asshole criminals of the pentagon the USA economy is broke and with 13 trillion dollars debts...
Bush Grand Father was arrested three times for making dirty business with the Nazis during War World II; they were selling special gasoline for the combat airplanes. The Nazis killed 10 million people at least but the weapon business during the war killed 50 millon more. Those false heroes are the ones who want to write history and give lessons of democracy. They do not have enough oil but huge debts for at least 200 years; this is why they want to invade to steal natural resources.
Chavez did not kill Martin Luther King, nor Kennedy, nor one million people for oil with lies, nor 3000 nuclear weapons pointing to every nation in the world, nor extreme communist corrupted 700 billion dollars per year on military expenditures, nor intelligent service agencies sending mails with Anthrax Virus to its own population while blaming other country, nor Kings on its constitution, nor world record of drug addicts, nor Nazi retarded on CNN or FOX news, nor 13 trillion dollars debt.
In 1921, Abkhazia and Georgia became Sovietized. On 31 March 1921, an independent Soviet Republic of Abkhazia was proclaimed. On 21 May 1921, the Georgian Bolshevik government officially recognized the independence of Abkhazia.
1917 - 1918: Abkhazia joined the Republic of the North Caucasus. The Mensheviks took over the government of Georgia and annexed Abkhazia by a mixture of political manoeuvring and the application of fire and sword by General Mazniashvilis troops.
But the same year, under pressure from Stalin and other influential Georgian Bolsheviks, Abkhazia was forced to conclude a union (i.e., confederative) treaty with Georgia. Abkhazia still remained a full union republic until 1931, when its status was downgraded, under Stalin's orders, from that of Union Republic to that of an Autonomous Republic within Georgia.
GOOGLE: ''Declaration of the Revolutionary Committee of the SSR of Georgia on Independence of the SSR of Abkhazia - 21 May 1921''
''In the mid 1950s, in line with the ideological goals of the resettlement policy, a theory was fabricated declaring the true Abkhaz to be an ancient cultural Georgians living on the territory of Abkhazia and describing the modern Abkhazians as those who moved into Abkhazia from the north in the 17th century.
''...The thesis of the resettlement of Abkhazians became part of a racist theory asserting a supposed primordial superiority of the civilized Georgians over their neighbours- a theory which dominated in Georgian science and public consciousness.'' (Krylov, Alexander. [The Georgian-Abkhazian Conflict. The Security of the Caspian Sea region. SIPRI. Oxford University Press. 2001. p. 283).]''
''After Beria's transfer to Moscow in 1938, anti-Abkhazian measures continued under his successor, Kandida Charkviani. The Abkhaz alphabet was changed to a Georgian base. During 1944-45 all Abkhazian schools were closed, replacing them with Georgian schools, and the Abkhaz language was banned from administration and publication. ''
The ending -i in the form /Sukhumi/ represents the Georgian Nominative case-suffix, and it became attached to /Sukhum/ from the late 1930s when (Georgian) Stalin (Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili) and his Mingrelian lieutenant in Transcaucasia, Lavrent'i Beria, began to implement a series of anti-Abkhazian policies.
Check google: Historical Maps: Abkhazia at various times in history
Why are you people changing the history and trying it so hard? Stalin and Beria were the enemies of Georgia. They are the ones who gave Apsuas and Ossetians authonomies so they could serve as slow motion bombs in case Georgia would demand independence. So was Adjaria where also Georgians lived but because part of them were moslem Russians decided to grant them authonomy as well. Russians have turned us against each-other? Next time they will turn against you and exterminate you people!
An excerpt from ''Potier, Tim. Conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, The Hague. 2001. p.9''
''Abkhazia suffered considerably under Stalin during the 1930s. In February 1931 the status of Abkhazia was reduced to that of an autonomous republic within Georgia. In 1937, the head of the Georgian Communist Party, Lavrenti Beria undertook his 'anti-Abkhazian drive', involving the forced immigration of thousands of non-Abkhazians (especially Mingrelians) into Abkhazia.
What would the word "Georgia" suggest about the people's origin? The old name for today's eastern Georgia (Iberia/Iveria) is most plausibly explained as deriving from the Old Armenian phrase /i Virs/ ("to the Georgians").
See: Abkhazia, Georgia, and history: a response, by George Hewitt
Georgia is old greek word that means Geo - earth or the land of agriculture. I'm glad you have logged in here so you can get something in your stubborn head
After all, the very term "Georgia" (in Russian, Gruzija; in French, Géorgie; in German, Gruzien; in Turkish, Gürcistan, and so on) has nothing whatsoever to do with the Georgians' self-designation for their land (viz. /sakartvelo/).
See: Abkhazia, Georgia, and history: a response, by George Hewitt
Ruslan Khodzhaa quotes in his new book from his own earlier 'Documents and Materials of the Abkhazian People's Soviet 1918-1919' (in Russian, Sukhum, 1999) on Mazniashviili's behaviour:
'Not a single tsarist general raged as mercilessly when subjugating the Caucasian peoples as Mazniev [Mazniashviili] in Abkhazia' (p.7).
Janperit you are typical douchebag! You only have a single biased source of re-written history and keep quoting from there. next may be you'll come up with Russian-funded so-called history books written by that Apsua fascist Ardzinba
So-called Abkhazian and South Ossetian autonomies were created by Russians on the territory of Georgia so one day they could explode these slow motion bombs as soon as Georgia would get independence. So we did and bombs went off!
There are no Abkhazians as a nation. Abkhazians are Georgians. You are APSUAS and live with that name. You don't even have your own language or an alphabet. You are using modified cyrillic alphabet and lexicon and claim to be old nation. It makes me laugh!
Hey jan froggie. If you know so much. Would you please be kind and describe the difference between Abkhazians and Apsuas. If you were so independent and separate country where is your alphabet or your own language? Isn't it modified cyrillic / russian alphabet. I remember in Sokhumi there was a cigarrette factory. They used to make russian cigarrettes "KOCMOC" and in abkhazian it also said "AKOCMOC" asigaret axuinya
Hahaha. I've never met more ignorant person than you.
Let me give you a history lesson: Word sokhumi comes from Tskhumi, a toponym which is frequently related to the Svan for "hot". Do you know who Svanis are? They are Georgians.
janperit either you are one uninformed idiot or you are just trying to fool us. Abkhazian Kingdom was formed in 10th c. There was no mention of Apsua tribes. Abkhazians were Georgians as Kartlians, Kakhetians, Mengrelians, Svans, etc. that formed Georgian nation. Apsuas started settling region in 18th century. They were Adigey or adiGay tribes from northern Caucasus. See? you only quote history after Soviet Russian red army took over Georgia in 1921.
Englishman Carl Bechhofer: 'The free and independent Social-Democratic government of Georgia will ever remain in my memory as a classical example of an imperialistic minor nationality both in relation to its seizure of territory to within its own borders and in relation to the bureaucratic tyranny inside the state. Its chauvinism exceeds the highest limits' (In Denikin's Russia and the Caucasus, 1919-1920, London 1921).
I am glad that Chavez did not recognize Stalin's borders. Abkhazia was fully independent state in 1921 and Georgian Revolutionary Committee recognized the independence of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Abkhazia. But (Georgian) Stalin (aka Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili) made it a part of the Georgian SSR in 1931.
Fuckin' idiot Abkhazians were Western Georgians. You are Adigei tribes freakin' horsebacks. Where was apsua state before 1921? In 1921 Russian Red Army invaded Georgia and gave you independence. Don;t you know divide and conquer policy? Do you really think that Russia wants Abkhazia for so-called "Abkhazians"? or South Ossetia for "Ossetians"? They will take you over and fuck you over as they did with everyone else! Then you will shut the hell up! Forget about that re-written fake history idiot!
More countries should recognize the two republics.
Georgians have not paid enough consequences for their recent mass slaughter in those two republics, which was supported by the wild, warmongering bush and carried out by that devil, saakisvilli!
The maniac muslims 'should pay', if they relentlessly seek to impose their islamic insanity outside of the Arabian Peninsula
Although the better plan is to spare the people and destroy the symbols of islam, so that future generations of children do not also get their minds destroyed by the islamic insanity
i have a lot of respect towards Chaves, but the man is playing with fire. he should be a lot less aggressive as a leader, sort of like Brazil which backs up Russia, Iran and Venezuela but isnt being paranoid and trying to buy a shitload of military equipment, build major allies, threaten wars, get nuclear weapons, etc.
actually Venezuela does have more weapons than most European countries. but thats beside the point. im just saying that Venezuela needs to be cautious. cause even though there aggressive action is making them stronger, it also gives the USA more of a reason to bring them down. we all know that the USA did that before.
Actually, Chavez is being cautious by arming Venezuelans for their defense.
Who is attacking US on account of its being most massively armed?
USA never needs a reason to attack other nations; because evil beings act and attack out of their own devilish nature, which can be preceded by deception or a lie -- Iraqis were a nuclear threat to the US.
Therefore, it is better that Venezuelans are better armed this time around, in order to beat back the unprovoked 'regime changers'.
hey zionist how's that jew world order going for you hey heritage foundation hey neocon kikes how you like it ROFLMAO rolling on the floor laughing my ass off hey how's that jew sponsored chad ballot and diebold machine phoney democracy or is the color revolutions LOL
Swedish newspaper Israeli soldiers are abducting Palestinians in order to steal their organs, a claim that prompted furious condemnation and accusations of anti-Semitic blood libel from a rival publication. "They plunder the organs of our sons," read the headline in Sweden's largest daily newspaper, the left-leaning Aftonbladet, which devoted a double spread in its cultural section to the article ..Boström's article makes a link to the recent exposure of an alleged crime syndicate in New Jersey
It is be cause he asked some Czechs how is to suck
USA dick and they've told him "It is horrible we suck US dick and we are still not sure that we will not be fucked hard at the end instead of thanked for it!"
2TeslaGenious. It is because going to my profile and seeing that it is from Czech Rep. does not automatically mean that I am Czech and would get somehow agitated by your comment. Besides the Czech are quite safe from Russians. From your name I assume that you are Serbian, and you are pissed off by the Western solution of Kosovo business and hence your point of view. I just can tell you one thing, Russia has been doing similar thing in Georgia as USA in Serbia and being happy about it is stupid.
They are so confident saying that this fact will encourage other countries to follow the example of Venezuela.. I don't know for sure. Seems to me "a great deal" of countries wished to join in when Nicaragua admitted the independence of those two republics.
Yeah, Hugo is a good, very good politician. I respect him. He 's aware of what he's doing. But many others don't possess such awareness.
Great announcement... i was expecting this since long time ago... South Ossetia and Abkhazia are free and independents countries!!! we from venezuela recognize them as independents states!!!
Long live to the russian - venezuelan friendship and partnership!!!
wat a guy lol i so wish my goverment had a guy like this please regonise that jersey of the coast of france is still occupied by money grabbing evil men we need to become a part of the england again some one tell that gordon brown idiot to invade jersey and liberate us from our evil goverment
If a country have good relations with another, improving trade, personal relations between presidents - it DOESN'T mean that it's "bitch".
But for dumb americans like you - it's always be like this, because americans see the world as black/white. Decades of propaganda of "external enemy" made you psycho morons, who can't differ lie and truth. Also you DON'T see any US crimes all over the world, because since borning were brainwashed that every US action is "for democracy and freedom". Clowns.
its not just buy and sell mate... Russia is helping us to develop some areas and helping us to upgrade or defensive weapons... what you say is a typical question from a capitalist... just buy and sell... we believe in other things... like solidarity and complementary friendships... we are in a new world mate, you should know it =D
greetings from venezuela... dont insult plz... we can discuss and be polite at the same time =D
I think you are mistaking, Saddam was a whore for US and Russia. What he really tried to do is to play one against the other. It worked for him for 20 years.
Before accessing my ignorance you might want to investigate how much Saddam owed Russia(USSR) and how that debt was accumulated. He did try to play the Russian card to the end, the problem is Russia was not in the position to intervene. As for Iran-Iraq conflict you might want to ask yourself why both sides had abundance of Russian weapons and therefore who's interest that war served, besides US.
So by repeating your previous post you demonstrating your superior intelligence. If I retype my previous post would you consider me smart too? How is your "just trying to survive sitting on 2 chairs" differs from my assessment?
I am reasonably sure that we call people who SELL allegiances and friendship whores. Russia and Iran together is a rather said and desperate statement, considering how much Russia suffered from muslim terror.
No argument from me on this topic. So it is my understanding that you think that Russia should and does emulate US behavior, is my understanding correct?
If someone have World War in plans, it's USA, which initiated both previous wars. First was to crash European currencies, to create Federal Reserve and to stronger dollar, to finance bolsheviks in Russian revolution. Second - the same, + Bretton-woods - to connect paper money with gold; to get out USA from Great Depression, to make Hitler fight against USSR more than half of war, and only in 1944 after Stalin's order - to "open". second front, when Soviet soldiers already had main initiative.
Does anyone else see the connections here? China broadcasting in Russian, and Venesula working close with Russia... None of this is on U.S. television... Russia sure seems to be making a clear move to become a major surper power, and also Russia making it very clear their not happy with the U.S. at all.
The US and EU recognise no such de facto situation, and that counts much more than what Hugo Chavez and his regional lickspittles decide. In light of this, Colombia night take the initiative and reestablish the status quo ante, of Gran Colombia.
Whatever, it's the principle. For the price of one F16 you can have 30 drones, so you can afford to lose a few. The Serbs didn't shoot down all the drones, and Chavez can only shoot off his S300s, once. The former Yugoslavia was always a major source of crime, but the crims operated outside of Yugoslavia, so as not to be taken out by the Yugoslav government. So the crims simply use Albania/Kosovo, as a [base] of operations. Drugs should be decriminalised, and any subsequent crime, fought
The rate of criminality does not follow the size of a specific population, except where criminality is an intrinsic aspect of the political system. Many countries, Russia included, would be consistent with that principle.
I would equate the Albanian problem, as cited by you, with a total lack of understanding and/or experience of property rights, since, under the former communist regime, none existed beyond that which pertained to the leadership and its cohort. This is not limited to Albanians, but is consistent with many examples from the international polity, even though they stand outside a convenient classification, as a Mafia. Thus the opportunity for you and others to cite examples, such as the US, the UK.
Georgians in Russia 1 million. Chechens 1,5 million. Ingushes less than a million. But their mafias biggest and richest in Russia. The Armenians near million but their mafia is one of the most powerful. Azerbaijans in Russia more than the Georgians, Armenians and Chechens put together, but they are still inferior to the mafia in strength.
I'm not Russian and it sounds strange to me how you compare Chechens and Ingushes with others who are not Russian citizens as if it is the same?!
But still I understood your comment
Question
How come you still have 1million Georgians in Russia
You might have another war with Georgia don't you find that to be danger to national security for Russia Specially with all terrorist attacks you already had before in Russia? I imagine that some have Russian passport but not all, huh?
I mean that in Russia there are more than a million citizens of Georgian nationality. They are citizens of Russia. Many of them prominent politicians, directors, actors, musicians, but most of all the bandits. For example, in Moscow, more than 70% of auto thefts committed Georgian gang. And expensive cars like Porsche Cayenne and Ferrari almost 100% stole georgians.
I'm not russian, but lived long in Russia, often been there and know about it. This everyone knows.
wrong! They do NOT "use" or control Kosovo Albanians They just use military planes to transfer HEROIN from Afghanistan and sell it to Albanians the rest is under control of LOCAL MAFIA !
For intelligent people it is clear that heroin can't be legalized it has devastating consequences for adolescent errors
The adolescents should be intelligent enough to know not to use such forms of pleasure. No matter how much stuff is shipped in from Afghanistan, if no one's buying, it's a busted operation. Don't do drugs, kids. Okay, have it your way, then: You can have 4-5 drones for one F16.
Begorrah, Mick, ye're a fekkin' ignorant cunt, aren't ye? Russia's not got a deficit - unlike your medieval incest-ridden proddy-stolen country. So we don't need any bailouts. You must be thinkin' of your ain worthless gobshite country an' the fekkin' mess you're in?? Squillions in debt, the poor man of Europe.,.. and still sucking' yankee COCK ye fekkin eejits!! Bwaaaahahahaha
And what does a yankee-doodle military camp in Kosovo got to do with the bankruptcy of your Thick Mick economy?? Nothing at all. You're just a loudmouth wanker clutching at straws, you ignorant cunt.
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More on how much relations between Russia and Venezula. I wouldn't celebrate since I doubt that other nations will follow suit in Latin save for Bolivia.
First off the so-called secession movement in the USA is just some pet project by a bunch of right wing kooks, their ideas of secession have little support and second why would CA want to secede?
You can thank him once he takes care of the internet in Venezuela, like the Castros have......Ahora Chávez quiere censurar Internet. Su gobierno pretende crear un solo punto de acceso a la red de Internet, controlado por el Estado con la finalidad de manejar todo su tráfico en Venezuela.
hey, in America we have Chavez lite in office by the name of Barack Obama. He too wants to control in the internet in times of emergency...and there is also censoring right here on Youtube!
THANK you Venezuela very smart move other countries should follow.
aviomaster 3 months ago
GOD bless Russian Nuclear Stockpile ....
Thank you Russia we are watching EVERY step of international politics.
GOD bless RUSSIA.
USA ripped off 15% of Serbian land by BRUTE force 78 days of bombings Electric grid totally destroyed Bridges Power plants.
Thank you Venezuela. CLEAN state 98% of Venezuelan electricity is from Hydroelectric power plants.
aviomaster 10 months ago
--- GOD bless RUSSIA ... rebuild your military and destroy ... USA ..
aviomaster 2 years ago 2
Chavez did not kill Martin Luther King, nor Kennedy, nor one million people for oil with lies, nor intelligent services sending Anthrax virus letters to its own population while blaming other country, nor 3000 nuclear weapons pointing to all the countries in the world, nor spending extreme corrupted communist 700 billion dollars on military expenditures every year, nor world record of drug addicts, nor CNN or FOX Nazi retarded, nor 13 trillion dollars debt.
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That bastard Bush I criminal told Sadam that if he invades Kuwait he will respect the sobereign desicion of Iraq then killed 500 thousand people in the war. But before that former president Reagan was talking about make the USA energy independent then after he got shot by someone; the same asshole vice president Bush took charge an they forgot the issue; today thanks to its son and the asshole criminals of the pentagon the USA economy is broke and with 13 trillion dollars debts...
luisbeck007 2 years ago
Bush Grand Father was arrested three times for making dirty business with the Nazis during War World II; they were selling special gasoline for the combat airplanes. The Nazis killed 10 million people at least but the weapon business during the war killed 50 millon more. Those false heroes are the ones who want to write history and give lessons of democracy. They do not have enough oil but huge debts for at least 200 years; this is why they want to invade to steal natural resources.
luisbeck007 2 years ago
Chavez did not kill Martin Luther King, nor Kennedy, nor one million people for oil with lies, nor 3000 nuclear weapons pointing to every nation in the world, nor extreme communist corrupted 700 billion dollars per year on military expenditures, nor intelligent service agencies sending mails with Anthrax Virus to its own population while blaming other country, nor Kings on its constitution, nor world record of drug addicts, nor Nazi retarded on CNN or FOX news, nor 13 trillion dollars debt.
luisbeck007 2 years ago
-- This is answer for KOSOVO independence ,, when USA bombed Serbia for 78 days ,... for no reason ... GOD BLESS Russian Federation .
Ossetia and Abhazia independent states.
aviomaster 2 years ago
no surprise, everyone knows that Chavez is a communmist fool, talking baseless propaganda
tomreves28 2 years ago
Chill out, Americans. It is all about former regions of Georgia near Russia. Not about Georgia - the US state)
Simbirsk2130 2 years ago
Free Kingdom of Pamplona !!!
Popajaja 2 years ago
and nexts are ; Cuba, Belarus, Iran, Labnon, North Corea, Armenia, Moldova, Scotland when will leave UK and many ...
Yitabup ( Thank u ) Chavez !
Abazin89 2 years ago 3
Great
bauxi07 2 years ago 3
FREE ABKHAZIA
A6XA3A 2 years ago 4
Falsification of the Abkhazian history is a favorite method of nationalistic Georgians.
janperit 2 years ago 4
P1.
In 1921, Abkhazia and Georgia became Sovietized. On 31 March 1921, an independent Soviet Republic of Abkhazia was proclaimed. On 21 May 1921, the Georgian Bolshevik government officially recognized the independence of Abkhazia.
janperit 2 years ago
What status did Soviet Republic of Abkhazia had before the declaration of independence on March 31st, 1921?
tamrojp 2 years ago
1917 - 1918: Abkhazia joined the Republic of the North Caucasus. The Mensheviks took over the government of Georgia and annexed Abkhazia by a mixture of political manoeuvring and the application of fire and sword by General Mazniashvilis troops.
janperit 2 years ago
P2
But the same year, under pressure from Stalin and other influential Georgian Bolsheviks, Abkhazia was forced to conclude a union (i.e., confederative) treaty with Georgia. Abkhazia still remained a full union republic until 1931, when its status was downgraded, under Stalin's orders, from that of Union Republic to that of an Autonomous Republic within Georgia.
GOOGLE: ''Declaration of the Revolutionary Committee of the SSR of Georgia on Independence of the SSR of Abkhazia - 21 May 1921''
janperit 2 years ago
Excerpt
P1.
''In the mid 1950s, in line with the ideological goals of the resettlement policy, a theory was fabricated declaring the true Abkhaz to be an ancient cultural Georgians living on the territory of Abkhazia and describing the modern Abkhazians as those who moved into Abkhazia from the north in the 17th century.
janperit 2 years ago
P2
''...The thesis of the resettlement of Abkhazians became part of a racist theory asserting a supposed primordial superiority of the civilized Georgians over their neighbours- a theory which dominated in Georgian science and public consciousness.'' (Krylov, Alexander. [The Georgian-Abkhazian Conflict. The Security of the Caspian Sea region. SIPRI. Oxford University Press. 2001. p. 283).]''
janperit 2 years ago
Continue to excerpt from Tim Potier:
''After Beria's transfer to Moscow in 1938, anti-Abkhazian measures continued under his successor, Kandida Charkviani. The Abkhaz alphabet was changed to a Georgian base. During 1944-45 all Abkhazian schools were closed, replacing them with Georgian schools, and the Abkhaz language was banned from administration and publication. ''
janperit 2 years ago
As you see Abkhazia is NOT Georgia.
Abkhazia is Abkhazia!
I know this fact give you big pain but this is a FACT and you should live with it.
janperit 2 years ago
SUKHUM - SUKHUM-I
The ending -i in the form /Sukhumi/ represents the Georgian Nominative case-suffix, and it became attached to /Sukhum/ from the late 1930s when (Georgian) Stalin (Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili) and his Mingrelian lieutenant in Transcaucasia, Lavrent'i Beria, began to implement a series of anti-Abkhazian policies.
Check google: Historical Maps: Abkhazia at various times in history
Can you see Sokhumi or Sukhumi at the maps?
janperit 2 years ago
Why are you people changing the history and trying it so hard? Stalin and Beria were the enemies of Georgia. They are the ones who gave Apsuas and Ossetians authonomies so they could serve as slow motion bombs in case Georgia would demand independence. So was Adjaria where also Georgians lived but because part of them were moslem Russians decided to grant them authonomy as well. Russians have turned us against each-other? Next time they will turn against you and exterminate you people!
georgianborat 2 years ago
An excerpt from ''Potier, Tim. Conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, The Hague. 2001. p.9''
''Abkhazia suffered considerably under Stalin during the 1930s. In February 1931 the status of Abkhazia was reduced to that of an autonomous republic within Georgia. In 1937, the head of the Georgian Communist Party, Lavrenti Beria undertook his 'anti-Abkhazian drive', involving the forced immigration of thousands of non-Abkhazians (especially Mingrelians) into Abkhazia.
janperit 2 years ago
What would the word "Georgia" suggest about the people's origin? The old name for today's eastern Georgia (Iberia/Iveria) is most plausibly explained as deriving from the Old Armenian phrase /i Virs/ ("to the Georgians").
See: Abkhazia, Georgia, and history: a response, by George Hewitt
janperit 2 years ago
Georgia is old greek word that means Geo - earth or the land of agriculture. I'm glad you have logged in here so you can get something in your stubborn head
georgianborat 2 years ago
After all, the very term "Georgia" (in Russian, Gruzija; in French, Géorgie; in German, Gruzien; in Turkish, Gürcistan, and so on) has nothing whatsoever to do with the Georgians' self-designation for their land (viz. /sakartvelo/).
See: Abkhazia, Georgia, and history: a response, by George Hewitt
janperit 2 years ago
Ruslan Khodzhaa quotes in his new book from his own earlier 'Documents and Materials of the Abkhazian People's Soviet 1918-1919' (in Russian, Sukhum, 1999) on Mazniashviili's behaviour:
'Not a single tsarist general raged as mercilessly when subjugating the Caucasian peoples as Mazniev [Mazniashviili] in Abkhazia' (p.7).
janperit 2 years ago
Janperit you are typical douchebag! You only have a single biased source of re-written history and keep quoting from there. next may be you'll come up with Russian-funded so-called history books written by that Apsua fascist Ardzinba
georgianborat 2 years ago
So-called Abkhazian and South Ossetian autonomies were created by Russians on the territory of Georgia so one day they could explode these slow motion bombs as soon as Georgia would get independence. So we did and bombs went off!
There are no Abkhazians as a nation. Abkhazians are Georgians. You are APSUAS and live with that name. You don't even have your own language or an alphabet. You are using modified cyrillic alphabet and lexicon and claim to be old nation. It makes me laugh!
georgianborat 2 years ago
georgianborat, thanks for show us your ignorant and fascist face. Hitler proud of with you.
janperit 2 years ago
Hey jan froggie. If you know so much. Would you please be kind and describe the difference between Abkhazians and Apsuas. If you were so independent and separate country where is your alphabet or your own language? Isn't it modified cyrillic / russian alphabet. I remember in Sokhumi there was a cigarrette factory. They used to make russian cigarrettes "KOCMOC" and in abkhazian it also said "AKOCMOC" asigaret axuinya
georgianborat 2 years ago
georgianborat,
Still i can't see your sources for your ABSURD claims.
And for your questions, check: ''Abkhazians - Who are they? by Y.N. Voronov''
and ''Abkhazia, Georgia, and history: a response, by George Hewitt''
By the way: it's NOT SOKHUMI...
If you check the ''Historical Maps: Abkhazia at various times in history''
you will see that it was SUKHUM (kaleh) untill Stalin.
janperit 2 years ago
Hahaha. I've never met more ignorant person than you.
Let me give you a history lesson: Word sokhumi comes from Tskhumi, a toponym which is frequently related to the Svan for "hot". Do you know who Svanis are? They are Georgians.
georgianborat 2 years ago
Why you can NOT SHOW any academical source(s) for your ABSURD claims?
janperit 2 years ago
janperit either you are one uninformed idiot or you are just trying to fool us. Abkhazian Kingdom was formed in 10th c. There was no mention of Apsua tribes. Abkhazians were Georgians as Kartlians, Kakhetians, Mengrelians, Svans, etc. that formed Georgian nation. Apsuas started settling region in 18th century. They were Adigey or adiGay tribes from northern Caucasus. See? you only quote history after Soviet Russian red army took over Georgia in 1921.
georgianborat 2 years ago
georgianborat,
Check in google: ''Map of Europe, Southeast 800 Kingdom of Abkhazia Euratlas''
Can you see the KINGDOM OF ABKHAZIA in year 800.
Where is your source for your absurd claims?
Did you see: ''Demographic change in Abkhazia 18971989''
janperit 2 years ago
georgianborat,
Check in google: ''Historical Maps: Abkhazia at various times in history''
The maps included here give an idea of the frontiers of Abkhazia at various times in history.
janperit 2 years ago
8-th visit - Hugo got fucked 8th time in his fat latino ass by Put -In hahaha
georgianborat 2 years ago
Englishman Carl Bechhofer: 'The free and independent Social-Democratic government of Georgia will ever remain in my memory as a classical example of an imperialistic minor nationality both in relation to its seizure of territory to within its own borders and in relation to the bureaucratic tyranny inside the state. Its chauvinism exceeds the highest limits' (In Denikin's Russia and the Caucasus, 1919-1920, London 1921).
janperit 2 years ago
Looks like Russians have fucked faggot Chavez in the ass pretty hard!
georgianborat 2 years ago
I am glad that Chavez did not recognize Stalin's borders. Abkhazia was fully independent state in 1921 and Georgian Revolutionary Committee recognized the independence of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Abkhazia. But (Georgian) Stalin (aka Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili) made it a part of the Georgian SSR in 1931.
janperit 2 years ago
Fuckin' idiot Abkhazians were Western Georgians. You are Adigei tribes freakin' horsebacks. Where was apsua state before 1921? In 1921 Russian Red Army invaded Georgia and gave you independence. Don;t you know divide and conquer policy? Do you really think that Russia wants Abkhazia for so-called "Abkhazians"? or South Ossetia for "Ossetians"? They will take you over and fuck you over as they did with everyone else! Then you will shut the hell up! Forget about that re-written fake history idiot!
georgianborat 2 years ago
Classical Georgian reaction: FULLY HATRED and FALSIFICATION OF HISTORY.
georgianborat, check in google: ''Map of Europe, Southeast 800 Kingdom of Abkhazia Euratlas''
Search also: Declaration of the Revolutionary Committee of the SSR of Georgia on Independence of the SSR of Abkhazia - 21 May 1921
Search Also: Demographic change in Abkhazia 18971989
I am tired from Georgian lies...
janperit 2 years ago
More countries should recognize the two republics.
Georgians have not paid enough consequences for their recent mass slaughter in those two republics, which was supported by the wild, warmongering bush and carried out by that devil, saakisvilli!
nirbija 2 years ago
What about Russians driving chechens to extinction? Who should pay for that?
tamrojp 2 years ago
The maniac muslims 'should pay', if they relentlessly seek to impose their islamic insanity outside of the Arabian Peninsula
Although the better plan is to spare the people and destroy the symbols of islam, so that future generations of children do not also get their minds destroyed by the islamic insanity
nirbija 2 years ago
i have a lot of respect towards Chaves, but the man is playing with fire. he should be a lot less aggressive as a leader, sort of like Brazil which backs up Russia, Iran and Venezuela but isnt being paranoid and trying to buy a shitload of military equipment, build major allies, threaten wars, get nuclear weapons, etc.
CrossHeart79 2 years ago
How is Chavez 'aggressive'?
Should Venezuela not seek to defend itself?
Has Venezuelans have amount of arms compared to US, Russia, China, European countries?
nirbija 2 years ago
actually Venezuela does have more weapons than most European countries. but thats beside the point. im just saying that Venezuela needs to be cautious. cause even though there aggressive action is making them stronger, it also gives the USA more of a reason to bring them down. we all know that the USA did that before.
CrossHeart79 2 years ago
Actually, Chavez is being cautious by arming Venezuelans for their defense.
Who is attacking US on account of its being most massively armed?
USA never needs a reason to attack other nations; because evil beings act and attack out of their own devilish nature, which can be preceded by deception or a lie -- Iraqis were a nuclear threat to the US.
Therefore, it is better that Venezuelans are better armed this time around, in order to beat back the unprovoked 'regime changers'.
nirbija 2 years ago 2
Hmm, seems like you've really bought into the "firebrand" and "loose cannon" propaganda against Chavez.
I think you need to recall that the US has tried to remove him by force from the first day he was elected. Paranoid? Hardly.
seseljsrs 2 years ago
Слава России и Венесуэлы!! смерть америке и грузинскому правительству !!!
Saharoko 2 years ago 2
Georgian thieves in protest will hijack a couple of machines at the Embassy of Venezuela in Moscow.
And perhaps they'll go to Venezuela and will hijack there.
Abcider 2 years ago
Very good !
lndplv 2 years ago
Viva Chavez, viva Venesuela and Cuba!
Fuck ugly USA and NATO
EmptyMind33 2 years ago 4
monsieurazad 2 years ago
¡HUGO, HUGITO, APRIETA ESE CULITO!
tamrojp 2 years ago
Swedish newspaper Israeli soldiers are abducting Palestinians in order to steal their organs, a claim that prompted furious condemnation and accusations of anti-Semitic blood libel from a rival publication. "They plunder the organs of our sons," read the headline in Sweden's largest daily newspaper, the left-leaning Aftonbladet, which devoted a double spread in its cultural section to the article ..Boström's article makes a link to the recent exposure of an alleged crime syndicate in New Jersey
needbailout 2 years ago
Good job Chavez. --Russia rules--, yeah
Greetings from SERBIA!!!
KosovaEshteSerbi1 2 years ago 10
because Chavez is Putin's bitch, way to go Venezuela keep sucking Russian dick!
B6ka 2 years ago
It is be cause he asked some Czechs how is to suck
USA dick and they've told him "It is horrible we suck US dick and we are still not sure that we will not be fucked hard at the end instead of thanked for it!"
So he preferred Russians!
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
2TeslaGenious. It is because going to my profile and seeing that it is from Czech Rep. does not automatically mean that I am Czech and would get somehow agitated by your comment. Besides the Czech are quite safe from Russians. From your name I assume that you are Serbian, and you are pissed off by the Western solution of Kosovo business and hence your point of view. I just can tell you one thing, Russia has been doing similar thing in Georgia as USA in Serbia and being happy about it is stupid.
B6ka 2 years ago
I am missing something here, I don't understand why this is important?
someone light me up xD
ElSAVALDORfunes 2 years ago
"I am missing something here, I don't understand why this is important? someone light me up"
OK dude I'll explain to you why you don't understand !
BE CAUSE YOU ARE SIMPLETON !
Try to understand that and ask again afterward!
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
I meant what it has to do with USA anyways
ElSAVALDORfunes 2 years ago
It has everything to do with USA!
USA is glue that puts Russia and Venezuela and Iran
TOGETHER !
Without USA they would be much less together
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
They are so confident saying that this fact will encourage other countries to follow the example of Venezuela.. I don't know for sure. Seems to me "a great deal" of countries wished to join in when Nicaragua admitted the independence of those two republics.
Yeah, Hugo is a good, very good politician. I respect him. He 's aware of what he's doing. But many others don't possess such awareness.
Frecklie 2 years ago
I would not trust Chavez.
Tomorrow he may change your mind.
Abcider 2 years ago
God bless Venezuela
valkyrieQueensrf50lb 2 years ago 2
good news. hello from Serbia
dabog14 2 years ago
Great announcement... i was expecting this since long time ago... South Ossetia and Abkhazia are free and independents countries!!! we from venezuela recognize them as independents states!!!
Long live to the russian - venezuelan friendship and partnership!!!
Spaziba! greetings from venezuela =D
Ryaguas 2 years ago 3
wat a guy lol i so wish my goverment had a guy like this please regonise that jersey of the coast of france is still occupied by money grabbing evil men we need to become a part of the england again some one tell that gordon brown idiot to invade jersey and liberate us from our evil goverment
markjoachen 2 years ago
Good Man Chavez!
WHYNotNews 2 years ago 5
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Chavez is Russias bitch,
the stupid man dont understand that Russia just use him.
russia hates black people and latin people, just because they are brown/black, but the Chavez thinks they like him, haha =)
oh dear stupid *****
daduia 2 years ago
Thats all right
Empire100 2 years ago
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Propaganda FAIL!
Chavez is Russias Bitch.
Wasp16mm 2 years ago
If a country have good relations with another, improving trade, personal relations between presidents - it DOESN'T mean that it's "bitch".
But for dumb americans like you - it's always be like this, because americans see the world as black/white. Decades of propaganda of "external enemy" made you psycho morons, who can't differ lie and truth. Also you DON'T see any US crimes all over the world, because since borning were brainwashed that every US action is "for democracy and freedom". Clowns.
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
What economical value Venezuela has for Russia? It is pretty clear what they can buy from Russia, but what are they going to sell?
cheburashka1326 2 years ago
its not just buy and sell mate... Russia is helping us to develop some areas and helping us to upgrade or defensive weapons... what you say is a typical question from a capitalist... just buy and sell... we believe in other things... like solidarity and complementary friendships... we are in a new world mate, you should know it =D
greetings from venezuela... dont insult plz... we can discuss and be polite at the same time =D
Ryaguas 2 years ago 2
Greetings to Venezuela, a real friend to Russia!!
MarshallKutuzov 2 years ago
"Chavez is Russias Bitch"
Saddam Husein was "US bitch" and once he wanted to become independent US have hanged him!
So if I was Chavez I would become "Russian bitch" much earlier than he did - although it's still not to late !
Georgia is US "bitch" yet they've been raped by BEAR
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
I think you are mistaking, Saddam was a whore for US and Russia. What he really tried to do is to play one against the other. It worked for him for 20 years.
cheburashka1326 2 years ago
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TeslaGenius 2 years ago
Before accessing my ignorance you might want to investigate how much Saddam owed Russia(USSR) and how that debt was accumulated. He did try to play the Russian card to the end, the problem is Russia was not in the position to intervene. As for Iran-Iraq conflict you might want to ask yourself why both sides had abundance of Russian weapons and therefore who's interest that war served, besides US.
cheburashka1326 2 years ago
You think I'm mistaking be cause you are IGNORANT brainwashed US simpleton!
He came to power with US blessing as US controlled puppet = "US bitch" !
Later on he slides toward Soviet backing but even than he was NOT Soviet "bitch" - he was
just trying to survive sitting on 2 chairs
He even (as US bitch ) have waged war for his US master against Iran !
When he decided to become INDEPENDENT by starting to sell oil in EUROS that's when he really
have signed his death sentence !
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
So by repeating your previous post you demonstrating your superior intelligence. If I retype my previous post would you consider me smart too? How is your "just trying to survive sitting on 2 chairs" differs from my assessment?
cheburashka1326 2 years ago
There was error in typing that I removed
(that will make look more intelligent when it comes
to typing errors - but not for the rest )
One of your comments I'll not even answer
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
Which one?
cheburashka1326 2 years ago
"You thin you I'm"
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
Sorry I mean which one of mine is not worthy of your answer?
cheburashka1326 2 years ago
"Sorry I mean which one of mine is not worthy of your answer? "
I already forgot and trust me don't want to ready it again
to explain which
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
ALLEGIANCE to Russian global game to sell !
Undiscovered oil fields for Russian companies to work on !
They'll buy atomic power plants and all the stuff Russia has !
All that resources US had habit to RIP OFF will be offered to trade with Russia
Only Russia Venezuela and Iran together can represent energy world power (in terms of oil and gas) that is 100% out of US control
For the moment Russia and Venezuela didn't abandon dollar for oil payment option, but it is only question of the time
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
I am reasonably sure that we call people who SELL allegiances and friendship whores. Russia and Iran together is a rather said and desperate statement, considering how much Russia suffered from muslim terror.
cheburashka1326 2 years ago
US Empire is BASED on US & their "whores"!
Many of US "whores" are BETRAYED by their US master from time to time !
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
No argument from me on this topic. So it is my understanding that you think that Russia should and does emulate US behavior, is my understanding correct?
cheburashka1326 2 years ago
Get ready for another World War
Empire100 2 years ago
If someone have World War in plans, it's USA, which initiated both previous wars. First was to crash European currencies, to create Federal Reserve and to stronger dollar, to finance bolsheviks in Russian revolution. Second - the same, + Bretton-woods - to connect paper money with gold; to get out USA from Great Depression, to make Hitler fight against USSR more than half of war, and only in 1944 after Stalin's order - to "open". second front, when Soviet soldiers already had main initiative.
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago
Dude please save it.
Empire100 2 years ago
Does anyone else see the connections here? China broadcasting in Russian, and Venesula working close with Russia... None of this is on U.S. television... Russia sure seems to be making a clear move to become a major surper power, and also Russia making it very clear their not happy with the U.S. at all.
t4ac3y1 2 years ago 2
Some might call him nuts, but he surely got balls.
GO CHAVEZ!!!.
wiselblower 2 years ago 3
haha devils,Hugo Chavez told you devils off again.
barlog20 2 years ago
The US and EU recognise no such de facto situation, and that counts much more than what Hugo Chavez and his regional lickspittles decide. In light of this, Colombia night take the initiative and reestablish the status quo ante, of Gran Colombia.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
What YOU recognise isn't worth the steam off my piss, you ignorant Mick.
David Miliband's choking on his matzos.
I hear Kosovo's bankrupt, though? Krauts have run out of money to keep it going!! Bwaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha
MarshallKutuzov 2 years ago
I bet that you squat to piss the counterfeit Vodka :-) Anyway, with Russia sucking up to Chavez for a bailout, you can hardly be taken seriously.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
S-300 and SU35 in Venezuela's yard
would be taken "seriously" enough by US no need
for any other argument !
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
Against a flock of weaponised Predator/Raptor drones, the S300s and SU35s would be useless.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
charles Serb army has taking down plenty of drones with 1960 old SAM's (+ invisible F-117A and few F16 )
S-300MPU is on of the MOST advanced AA systems in the world FAR ABOVE old SAM!
Raptor was NEVER used in combat situation !
NEVER !
TeslaGenius 2 years ago 2
Whatever, it's the principle. For the price of one F16 you can have 30 drones, so you can afford to lose a few. The Serbs didn't shoot down all the drones, and Chavez can only shoot off his S300s, once. The former Yugoslavia was always a major source of crime, but the crims operated outside of Yugoslavia, so as not to be taken out by the Yugoslav government. So the crims simply use Albania/Kosovo, as a [base] of operations. Drugs should be decriminalised, and any subsequent crime, fought
charlessmyth 2 years ago
"former Yugoslavia was always a major source of crime"
charles have you got link to at least give source of such nonsense?!
Even if one takes that nonsense as starting point
by SIMPLE LOGIC (which is far beyond your capacity)
one can have deduction that most numbered nation has the biggest mafia in Europe!
Kosovo Albanians are ONLY 2million yet they are the biggest mafia in EUROPE !
Why not Serbs who are 4 times bigger in number?
You pathetic simpleton!
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
The rate of criminality does not follow the size of a specific population, except where criminality is an intrinsic aspect of the political system. Many countries, Russia included, would be consistent with that principle.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
You deliberately avoid common sense that is really
PATHETIC !
HOW is possible that Albanians are OFFICIALLY
No. 1 mafia in EUROPE and not
Germans ( 90milion people )
or ITALIANS (60milion) or Russians (130million) etc ?
HOW?
It just shows how much this aberrational behavior
is impregnated in those people to amount in huge
percentage within population!
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
I would equate the Albanian problem, as cited by you, with a total lack of understanding and/or experience of property rights, since, under the former communist regime, none existed beyond that which pertained to the leadership and its cohort. This is not limited to Albanians, but is consistent with many examples from the international polity, even though they stand outside a convenient classification, as a Mafia. Thus the opportunity for you and others to cite examples, such as the US, the UK.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
TeslaGenius
I fully agree with you.
Georgians in Russia 1 million. Chechens 1,5 million. Ingushes less than a million. But their mafias biggest and richest in Russia. The Armenians near million but their mafia is one of the most powerful. Azerbaijans in Russia more than the Georgians, Armenians and Chechens put together, but they are still inferior to the mafia in strength.
Abcider 2 years ago
I'm not Russian and it sounds strange to me how you compare Chechens and Ingushes with others who are not Russian citizens as if it is the same?!
But still I understood your comment
Question
How come you still have 1million Georgians in Russia
You might have another war with Georgia don't you find that to be danger to national security for Russia Specially with all terrorist attacks you already had before in Russia? I imagine that some have Russian passport but not all, huh?
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
TeslaGenius
I mean that in Russia there are more than a million citizens of Georgian nationality. They are citizens of Russia. Many of them prominent politicians, directors, actors, musicians, but most of all the bandits. For example, in Moscow, more than 70% of auto thefts committed Georgian gang. And expensive cars like Porsche Cayenne and Ferrari almost 100% stole georgians.
I'm not russian, but lived long in Russia, often been there and know about it. This everyone knows.
Abcider 2 years ago
If you talk about US Army as "criminals" you are
wrong! They do NOT "use" or control Kosovo Albanians They just use military planes to transfer HEROIN from Afghanistan and sell it to Albanians the rest is under control of LOCAL MAFIA !
For intelligent people it is clear that heroin can't be legalized it has devastating consequences for adolescent errors
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
"For the price of one F16 you can have 30 drones"
another exaggerating nonsense (as usual)
"Predator" is in 4 to 5X ratio to F16
Perhaps you were talking about pocket drones that children play with in room?
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
The adolescents should be intelligent enough to know not to use such forms of pleasure. No matter how much stuff is shipped in from Afghanistan, if no one's buying, it's a busted operation. Don't do drugs, kids. Okay, have it your way, then: You can have 4-5 drones for one F16.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
Begorrah, Mick, ye're a fekkin' ignorant cunt, aren't ye? Russia's not got a deficit - unlike your medieval incest-ridden proddy-stolen country. So we don't need any bailouts. You must be thinkin' of your ain worthless gobshite country an' the fekkin' mess you're in?? Squillions in debt, the poor man of Europe.,.. and still sucking' yankee COCK ye fekkin eejits!! Bwaaaahahahaha
MarshallKutuzov 2 years ago
Two words: Camp Bondsteel.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
And what does a yankee-doodle military camp in Kosovo got to do with the bankruptcy of your Thick Mick economy?? Nothing at all. You're just a loudmouth wanker clutching at straws, you ignorant cunt.
MarshallKutuzov 2 years ago
he is trying to say
"Fuck democracy fuck Kosovo the only thing that counts is that US is master of the world and takes piss on every
corner they find necessary to mark their territory"
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
Billions of EU euros swallowed in black hole
called banana Kosovo republic
which became the biggest world distributors of
Afghan HEROIN in Europe and world !
QUESTION
How is possible that in Sweden in every 50 arrested people 35 come from Kosovo? Or that Albanians
are the BIGGEST mafia in Europe if they count only
2 million of people?
TeslaGenius 2 years ago 3
Unemployment in Kosvo is over 70% !
TeslaGenius 2 years ago 2
Person, who don't afraid to say things uncomfortable for puppets.
Venezuela is a rare independent country, under constant pressure of US propaganda media, and initiators of fake "revolutions".
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago 2
And then we have a new Venezuelan Missile Crisis
IvanPetrenko 2 years ago
INDEPENDENT REPUBLIC OF ABKHAZIA and SOUTH OSSETIA !!!
DiscoverRussia 2 years ago 7
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More on how much relations between Russia and Venezula. I wouldn't celebrate since I doubt that other nations will follow suit in Latin save for Bolivia.
abarzilai664 2 years ago
It will grow, even if it may take years
and I will fully support
the secession of Texas and California
in the near future :))
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
Texas and California only?!
And what about Florida Arizona and New Mexico ?
And Alaska that waits impatiently to go back to Mother Russia !?
RussianDefender try try concentrate little bit while making comment please!
TeslaGenius 2 years ago 2
First off the so-called secession movement in the USA is just some pet project by a bunch of right wing kooks, their ideas of secession have little support and second why would CA want to secede?
abarzilai664 2 years ago
You dont own any of those lands yank
California was former part of Mexico
especially Hawaii, Alaska, Texas have the right to suceed
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
As much as your country has no rights to the Baltic States and Ukraine which are independent and yet Russia treats them like renegade provinces.
abarzilai664 2 years ago
Baltic states are know faschist states
who openly glorify the Nazis and we never
interfere them now they just want to pick a fight, same with Ukraine politicians
cause tensions to fight with our people
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
Chavez with respect and love :)
ShapsougTuapse1864 2 years ago 4
Long live to friendship of Russia and Venezuela.
SuperTankT95 2 years ago 6
Thank you, President Chavez.
deimosfire 2 years ago 8
You can thank him once he takes care of the internet in Venezuela, like the Castros have......Ahora Chávez quiere censurar Internet. Su gobierno pretende crear un solo punto de acceso a la red de Internet, controlado por el Estado con la finalidad de manejar todo su tráfico en Venezuela.
windysky4u 2 years ago
hey, in America we have Chavez lite in office by the name of Barack Obama. He too wants to control in the internet in times of emergency...and there is also censoring right here on Youtube!
OmarThePug 2 years ago 3
Tell me about it !!!
I`ve erased 5 or six accounts because of ( among other things ), censorship of unseen scale here on you tube !
grandcollection 2 years ago
I know nothing about Venezuela but my family in Abhazia will be happy about this decision.
I applaud him.
deimosfire 2 years ago 4
lol naughty :xD
14842 2 years ago