I thought I'd better give this video the thumbs up, because I was watching videos on right-wing conspiracy theory nuts for my own amusement and curiosity, and somehow an anti-Semitic video got on my channel by mistake, because some nut had looked at my profile apparently. SO I LIKE THIS!!!
If only the Birobidzhan project worked, what a different world we would be living in.... I don't think that Jewish people need to go anywhere, and they should always be given any opportunity to live their lives to the fullest, wherever their Goldene Medinah may be, but ICOR over Zionism any day of the week.
After World War II, the Bund--or what was left of it--modified its anti-Zionist stance. Speaking as the son of two people who fought in the Haganah in 1948, I can forgive them for their anti-Zionism, which has nothing to do with those today who use the term anti-Zionism to cover up their anti-Semitism.
the bund was opposed to zionism... this video is a lie and and insult to the heritage of those socialist jews who fought against discrimination and prejudice in Poland.
and where in this video do i say anything about Zionism, for or against? the flag at 0:17 is the flag of the Jewish Fighting Organization which led the Warsaw ghetto uprising in 1943. do some research before you comment.
No I'm not referring about the JFO flag. But at 0:45 the Israeli flag is oddly superimposed on the symbol of AntiFascist Action, a political reference that suggests that the flag of Israel is inherently "antifascist" when it is the flag that subju
I will also reference (0:35) the refugees looking ever forward under the flag of Israel.
The song is great. The video is a tribute to antifascism and solidarity. I love it and shared it on my Facebook. However, user sfadam is right that there are a few references to Zionism among the graphics: an Israeli flag (not referring to the flag of the great ZOB) and boats of colonists (one with a banner "...Jewish state"). Inappropriate and unfortunate.
Yes, the Bund was opposed to Zionism because they believed that leaving meant caving in to the antisemites. But they were wrong and the Zionists were right.
The Bund has been relegated to the dustbin of history because they ignored the the reality of Jewish life in Europe.
@sfadam the song is dated around 1900, there was no Poland on the map of Europe so it would be difficult to fight against Polish discrimination:) You have to change your history books.It was Russian Empire which oppressed Poles and Jews all together.
The greatest Zionists came out from the Bund, learn history. We the Jewish people are fed up with you, who have nothing to do with us, our history(except that you wish us death) yet you dare to speak in our name.
Comrades, Der Yiddishe Arbeter Bund was anti-zionistic, left organisation, former part of Russian S.-D. Workers Party. I can't understande why there is a flag of Medina Isroele in this video. Also, here is many funny comments, like "down with fascist-antizionism !!
..thanks for this video". I think, you just don't really know, that ha-Kitwah and Di Shwue isn't the same song:)
It does not matter what flag Jews had upheld, and had it been any swearing to it: if they stop fighting for Land of Israel now, the large part of us will be murdered again, and again. History repeats itself. The song is good.
the song is great. The video is bogus. The song is a socialist song from around 1900, it has absolutely nothing to do with Israel or Zionism. On the contrary. The flag they are swearing to in the song, is the RED flag of socialism and internationalism, not the blue and white flag of nationalism and colonialism. The Jewish Labour Bund OPPOSED Zionism!
This is liy olso. Kibbuz was rassist cooperativs from the begining. They were for jews only. Some of tham was created at the arabes land and arabes peasants were kicket away. Zionists bought the land from arabian rich and than polis push away arabes pesants who work there.
I am russian jew and anarchist and i spend 4 years in Israel. You dont know what are you talking about.
Jews returning to their ancestral homeland to escape European Fascism should NOT be equated with the colonization/occupation that began in 1967. Kibbutzim have nothing to do with the occupation, they were peaceful cooperative farms...on land no one else wanted, mostly former swampland.
Israel was created with NAKBA - palestinian Holocoust in the 1948. Jews who came to Israel from Europa was olso discriminated by zionists. Zionists call Holocoust victims as "sabonim" wich means soap in hebry. Apartheid nature of Israel came from the begining not from 1967.
Fuck this flag, it's an insult to the memory of our bundist forefathers to make this about the Israeli flag. They fought for the red banner, some for the black banner. What they didn't fight and die for is that nationalist aberration killing in our name.
You must not have watched the video very carefully, the image at 0:15 is not the flag of the State of Israel or the Zionist movement, it is the flag of the Jewish Fighting Organization, the Anti-Fascist resistance group that led the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in 1943. Look it up.
@TheTollundWoman My sincere apologies, Yes, I realized rewatching this in a state that wasn't a half asleep daze (a friend linked me to this video very early this morning). Some people say I have a short fuse and I'm sometimes forced to agree.
@Tomislavv2 ,,user ColdenRainGirl is NOT jewish,,she's another impersonator pretending to be 'jewish' to split and concure us..There is a big bunch of trolls posing 'jewish' to defame and split the jews..All of them write the same crap (cuz they copy-pasting this crap from other fake 'jews' - they ALWAYS lie that they are ''children-childrens to 'Holocaust victims'..
The ones who play Holocaust card' are thise impersonators
How naive that many jews take these trolls seriously
I think I can decipher the big letters: Hebrew letters, Language: Jewish German (=Yiddisch) Text: BICHER VELT = Bücher-Welt, book-world, world of books?
You do realize thatthe flag they are singing about is the red flag. Pre Auschwitz there was huge struggle in Palestine between zionist jews and communist jews. Which resultet in the victory of zionist/nationalistic groups. One of the reason was because most of the more miltant red jews went to fight in the spanish civil war. If you have the chance watch the movie 300 Jews versus Franco, alot of that struggle in Palestine is explained by survivors. Of course things much change post Auschwitz
Vive la Révolution Socialiste Internationale ! W le Bund Communiste ! Vive la République Socialiste des Travailleurs Juifs ! W le Socialisme ! W le Communisme !
Fight fascism but please also fight intolerance against Jews, Muslim, Labour unions, communists, ... For Humanity, against War and prejudice.
Workers of the world unite !!!
It is not your war, it is the war for the Bourgeousie´s profit, Your war is to fight them eternely all down !!!!
Pilsvergiftung 5 days ago
I thought I'd better give this video the thumbs up, because I was watching videos on right-wing conspiracy theory nuts for my own amusement and curiosity, and somehow an anti-Semitic video got on my channel by mistake, because some nut had looked at my profile apparently. SO I LIKE THIS!!!
MrDoremouse 1 week ago
If only the Birobidzhan project worked, what a different world we would be living in.... I don't think that Jewish people need to go anywhere, and they should always be given any opportunity to live their lives to the fullest, wherever their Goldene Medinah may be, but ICOR over Zionism any day of the week.
Bakuninite 2 weeks ago
also hab was geiles entdeckt haha
CecilAlysiafq547 1 month ago
After World War II, the Bund--or what was left of it--modified its anti-Zionist stance. Speaking as the son of two people who fought in the Haganah in 1948, I can forgive them for their anti-Zionism, which has nothing to do with those today who use the term anti-Zionism to cover up their anti-Semitism.
RaananVolesPianist 2 months ago
the bund was opposed to zionism... this video is a lie and and insult to the heritage of those socialist jews who fought against discrimination and prejudice in Poland.
sfadam 2 months ago
@sfadam
and where in this video do i say anything about Zionism, for or against? the flag at 0:17 is the flag of the Jewish Fighting Organization which led the Warsaw ghetto uprising in 1943. do some research before you comment.
TheTollundWoman 2 months ago
@TheTollundWoman
No I'm not referring about the JFO flag. But at 0:45 the Israeli flag is oddly superimposed on the symbol of AntiFascist Action, a political reference that suggests that the flag of Israel is inherently "antifascist" when it is the flag that subju
I will also reference (0:35) the refugees looking ever forward under the flag of Israel.
sfadam 2 months ago
@TheTollundWoman
The song is great. The video is a tribute to antifascism and solidarity. I love it and shared it on my Facebook. However, user sfadam is right that there are a few references to Zionism among the graphics: an Israeli flag (not referring to the flag of the great ZOB) and boats of colonists (one with a banner "...Jewish state"). Inappropriate and unfortunate.
FeministAvenger 1 month ago
@sfadam
Yes, the Bund was opposed to Zionism because they believed that leaving meant caving in to the antisemites. But they were wrong and the Zionists were right.
The Bund has been relegated to the dustbin of history because they ignored the the reality of Jewish life in Europe.
dmoneytron 1 month ago
@sfadam the song is dated around 1900, there was no Poland on the map of Europe so it would be difficult to fight against Polish discrimination:) You have to change your history books.It was Russian Empire which oppressed Poles and Jews all together.
korbamontana 2 weeks ago
@sfadam
The greatest Zionists came out from the Bund, learn history. We the Jewish people are fed up with you, who have nothing to do with us, our history(except that you wish us death) yet you dare to speak in our name.
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
Everyone hates the Zionists! You're lying times are over. Down with Zionism!
WesternVoices2 2 months ago
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Comrades, Der Yiddishe Arbeter Bund was anti-zionistic, left organisation, former part of Russian S.-D. Workers Party. I can't understande why there is a flag of Medina Isroele in this video. Also, here is many funny comments, like "down with fascist-antizionism !!
..thanks for this video". I think, you just don't really know, that ha-Kitwah and Di Shwue isn't the same song:)
comYakowenko 2 months ago
It does not matter what flag Jews had upheld, and had it been any swearing to it: if they stop fighting for Land of Israel now, the large part of us will be murdered again, and again. History repeats itself. The song is good.
alikisssa 2 months ago
@alikisssa
Bundists would never support Zionist nationalists and racists.
Cisza01 2 months ago
@Cisza01
Zionism does not equal racism. Zionism= national self-determination.
TheTollundWoman 2 months ago
Jewish Bund = Jewish Communists = Jewish Zionists
WesternVoices2 2 months ago
@WesternVoices2 Idiot. You have no grasp of history, and even less of politics.
manthasagittarius 2 months ago
Zionism = Jews Fascist !
what4563 2 months ago
the song is great. The video is bogus. The song is a socialist song from around 1900, it has absolutely nothing to do with Israel or Zionism. On the contrary. The flag they are swearing to in the song, is the RED flag of socialism and internationalism, not the blue and white flag of nationalism and colonialism. The Jewish Labour Bund OPPOSED Zionism!
vhs1 2 months ago 7
@vhs1 Blah, blah, blah. Keep your shirt on. It's a vintage song. No longer political, because it's so old.
StJouish 3 weeks ago
Free Free Palestine !!!
what4563 2 months ago
@what4563
Free Gaza from Hamas
TheTollundWoman 2 months ago
@TheTollundWoman Yes...
what4563 2 months ago
@what4563 זהו המנון פועלי ציון
SuperRashasha 2 months ago
@SuperRashasha ?
what4563 2 months ago
the video montage is misleading in parts. Is this due to ignorance or deliberate manipulation of history? BUNDIST WERE NOT ZIONISTS.
MsChanale 2 months ago
bundists were most extreme anti-zionist. This clip is a falsification of history of this great revolutionary party.
Cisza01 2 months ago 2
I always thought the bundists were against Zionism.
Agoraphobicslove 3 months ago
down with fascist-antizionism !!
..thanks for this video
mavra1910 3 months ago 5
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Kibbutzim have nothing to do with the occupation,
Comm
This is liy olso. Kibbuz was rassist cooperativs from the begining. They were for jews only. Some of tham was created at the arabes land and arabes peasants were kicket away. Zionists bought the land from arabian rich and than polis push away arabes pesants who work there.
I am russian jew and anarchist and i spend 4 years in Israel. You dont know what are you talking about.
magidd 3 months ago
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There is ships with jews coming to Palestine. And kibbuz poster.
Support jewish resistens and fuck zionism! Doun with zionist fassism!
magidd 4 months ago
@magidd
Jews returning to their ancestral homeland to escape European Fascism should NOT be equated with the colonization/occupation that began in 1967. Kibbutzim have nothing to do with the occupation, they were peaceful cooperative farms...on land no one else wanted, mostly former swampland.
TheTollundWoman 4 months ago 3
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Israel was created with NAKBA - palestinian Holocoust in the 1948. Jews who came to Israel from Europa was olso discriminated by zionists. Zionists call Holocoust victims as "sabonim" wich means soap in hebry. Apartheid nature of Israel came from the begining not from 1967.
magidd 3 months ago
@magidd the palestinian holocaust in wich the population grew to over ten times its original population huh?
mrfreecrack 3 months ago
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Fuck this flag, it's an insult to the memory of our bundist forefathers to make this about the Israeli flag. They fought for the red banner, some for the black banner. What they didn't fight and die for is that nationalist aberration killing in our name.
GoldRainGirl 5 months ago
@GoldRainGirl
You must not have watched the video very carefully, the image at 0:15 is not the flag of the State of Israel or the Zionist movement, it is the flag of the Jewish Fighting Organization, the Anti-Fascist resistance group that led the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in 1943. Look it up.
TheTollundWoman 5 months ago
@TheTollundWoman My sincere apologies, Yes, I realized rewatching this in a state that wasn't a half asleep daze (a friend linked me to this video very early this morning). Some people say I have a short fuse and I'm sometimes forced to agree.
agnosticnixie 5 months ago
@agnosticnixie
I understand, its an easy mistake. Thanks for watching my video.
TheTollundWoman 5 months ago
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@TheTollundWoman Also it's the same person on multiple accounts.
agnosticnixie 5 months ago
@GoldRainGirl
Common bundists were Jews,your forefathers were pigs and rats,and not Jews, so what are you doing on Jewish video?
Tomislavv2 4 months ago 5
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@Tomislavv2 Pathological liar? I merely dug up family roots before too much of the older family was gone. You sound like an idiot.
agnosticnixie 4 months ago
@Tomislavv2 ,,user ColdenRainGirl is NOT jewish,,she's another impersonator pretending to be 'jewish' to split and concure us..There is a big bunch of trolls posing 'jewish' to defame and split the jews..All of them write the same crap (cuz they copy-pasting this crap from other fake 'jews' - they ALWAYS lie that they are ''children-childrens to 'Holocaust victims'..
The ones who play Holocaust card' are thise impersonators
How naive that many jews take these trolls seriously
jevrej1977 3 months ago
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I agree!
What they answer to you is not trooth.
Sec 28 - zionist kibbuz poster
Sec 36 groop of people with zionist = fassist flag of Israel
magidd 4 months ago
I think I can decipher the big letters: Hebrew letters, Language: Jewish German (=Yiddisch) Text: BICHER VELT = Bücher-Welt, book-world, world of books?
diamondmcnamara 5 months ago
What language is the poster at 2:02 written in?
KennBurch 6 months ago
Да здравствует коммунистический Интернационал!
eoldarkelf78 6 months ago
Glory to the brave Jewish fighters who beat Nazis with bare hands during Warsaw Ghetto uprising !
nedeljko18 7 months ago
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You do realize thatthe flag they are singing about is the red flag. Pre Auschwitz there was huge struggle in Palestine between zionist jews and communist jews. Which resultet in the victory of zionist/nationalistic groups. One of the reason was because most of the more miltant red jews went to fight in the spanish civil war. If you have the chance watch the movie 300 Jews versus Franco, alot of that struggle in Palestine is explained by survivors. Of course things much change post Auschwitz
abugina 9 months ago
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@abugina I agree, it's a shame that people don't know more about their own history!
classicklezmer 6 months ago
Vive la Révolution Socialiste Internationale ! W le Bund Communiste ! Vive la République Socialiste des Travailleurs Juifs ! W le Socialisme ! W le Communisme !
Marx , Engels, Lénine; Trotsky, Luxemburg !
Tyrsus 11 months ago
thanks for this
rhd1000 1 year ago