Tony Abbott Character Slam by Malcolm Fraser

[phil123711]

Malcolm Fraser is a scumbag. And I voted for him. I made a mistake.

[666plb]

@phil123711 I am sure a lot of people in Zimbabwe would agree, excluding mugabe, fraser played a role in mugabe's rise to power.

[atrophyfilms2012]

@WedgieMajor Sorry, but he's our next PM. He has the views and concerns of a majority of Australians at heart. The nation is just old, and conservative enough, to know he is the right man.

[atrophyfilms2012]

Shut up, Fraser. It's a wonder you were even a member of the Liberal Party, let alone PM. This idiot left the Liberal Party because it was too "Right Wing" for him. Ah! It's Australia's equivalent of a conservative party. Duh! WTF does this guy take?

[diver4818]

What a stupid old has-been fool. He was a complete and utter failure as a PM and now he's an expert on everything. Why doesn't he just pull his head in and fade into oblivion where he belongs... I for one don't give a damn what this fool thinks...

[WedgieMajor]

Spot On, Malcolm! Abbott won't win an election not while the Australia public still has a brain.

[666plb]

It should have been fraser lost at sea indtead if Holt.

[fluffysnakeful]

@666plb How about we send all morons like your to go become farmers in Afghanistan? It's all your intellect deserves. Stop ruining this country with your stupidity

[666plb]

@fluffysnakeful Is that the best you can do comrade?

[breadbaker226]

Fraser is a loser and a wanker, FO

[MrFelixbarbosa]

People give a shit because it's the truth. He doesn't call Abbott a 'dickhead', or anything derogatory like that, he merely mentions what Abbott did, and then expresses his opinion on a man like that being in charge of our wonderful country.

Politics is all about opinions, if you can't handle someone else's opinion when expressed eloquently, and backed up with examples, I don't think you should feel so free at expressing your own opinion, especially when expressed with such aggression.

[midcitygym]

Who gives a shit what this self righteous, elitist, withered up has been thinks about anything? go back to your nursing home & pontificate at the bingo table fraser.

[splendidmate]

@midcitygym He's done far more for Australia than you could ever hope to do. He knows more about politics than you could ever hope to know. He laid out an argument, you insulted him because you have nothing else to offer other than rage and blind support. Get a clue please.

[midcitygym]

@splendidmate fraser always was an elitist champagne socialist as I suspect you are, if you want to be an apologist for someone dont waste your time on this old turd, btw i have a double degree in arts law, you?

[splendidmate]

@midcitygym wow, more insults and now an argument from authority. Two logical fallacies in one post, well done.

I am university educated yes, however i don't see what that has to do with an argument, it's either a good or bad argument regardless of who the person is who makes it. Did you enjoy getting Hecs while you were at uni? If you did then you don't completely hate socialism.

[doomyblat]

Fucking Mal . commo ///t .

[pauliejay]

I remember the days when I hated Malcolm. These days he doesn't seem anywhere near as bad...

[Benjpeter001]

The man has got massive ticker, no doubt, and I'm a Keating loyalist to my bones. It comes from the heart, no doubt, forget the past - I indeed have; Fraser is now one of my heros.

[midcitygym]

@Benjpeter001 of all the potential heros in the world you pick m. fraser? lmao, thats a good one!

[fredflinstone1291029]

This is LOL material coming from Fraser.

[carlosantuckwell]

Malcolm Fraser is a Soviet Mole. He publicly supported "the African National Congress' armed struggle for liberation".

The same ANC that used to put burning tyres around the necks of those that didn't tow their Party line.

The basic thing here though, is that the pro-New World Order Tax people can't debate the issues, but can only resort to character-assasssination of their opponents (what barristers mostly do).

Carbon Tax is a paid licence to pollute, the price to be set by the StockMarket!

[Sahanavic]

@carlosantuckwell So you're saying Fraser's support of the ANC is a bad thing. Does this mean that if you were in his shoes, you would have done your very best to ensure that Nelson Madela never got into power, and that only white people would ever be able to vote in South Africa? Because that's how it's coming across to me.

The tyre story sounds like old anti-black propoganda to me too, which there was plenty of in South Africa at the time, so I call bullshit unless you can show some proof.

[carlosantuckwell]

@Sahanavic For anyone around then - following all the news items (I was watching mainly the ABC then) - no one was disuputing the facts of ANC "necklaces" (burning tyres) being put round poor Blacks labelled (rightly or wrongly) as "traitors" - fascist tactics, but of course the Stalinists began those tactics first (not burning tyres, but other forms of assault & torture).

Of course Apartheid was wrong, but why didn't Fraser come out in support of that South African Communist front earlier?....

[carlosantuckwell]

@Sahanavic ...and the ANC weren't the only liberation organisation in South Africa at the time - there was AZAPO (Azanian People's Organisation) - who were more Zulu-based than Bantu-based ANC.

Also for those around then, the direct links between Moscow and the leadership of the ANC (the ones who weren't in gaol) was also on ALL the media.

The really pathetic thing was Peter Luck's uncovering of some top Soviet officials selling AK47s to Apartheid cops who then claimed Soviet arming of ANC

[Sahanavic]

@carlosantuckwell And whilst ad hominem attacks are a logical fallacy in a debate, Fraser's point is that Tony Abbott appears to have no principles other than to get into power by saying whatever he needs to say, without any conviction on any issues. That is not a good attribute for a future leader to have, and Fraser would be right to voice his concern.

[Inconvenientruths]

Well lets face it. Mal is a has been, cryer who has long since changed his spots and shit on the ABC!

As if the Labor/Green Parties flagship media operation is going to promote anything positive about Abbott or the right/Conservatives.

It would be like having a Conservative feature on Labor's "Australian Story" or something positive about the Conservatives on "Sunrise"!

Shit Oh Dear!

[Heffman07]

@Inconvenientruths Do some research you twit. 70% of Australian newspapers are owned by the right wing Murdoch owned NewsLimited. Not to mention Murdoch also owning SkyNews, while part owning Foxtel!

[breadbaker226]

Fraser is a dissapointing hasbeen

[napalm5]

Kerrs cur. We haven't forgotten.

[colindominy]

Fraser was NEVER in touch with common Australians .. it's weird that he is cranked out in these modern times .. as if his warped opinions counted for anything anyway. As for Abbott, he's the dumbest, most-dangerous, most unprincipled politician in Australia today. He could NEVER be trusted to be ethical & responsible & smart enough to be PM. Mind you, Gillard & her mob aren't much better.

[MetaMetaphysician]

Q n A = Left wing circle jerk paid for by tax payer.

Malcolm Fraser = man who loses his pants while paying for sex in Memphis.

[Mollarooza]

@MetaMetaphysician 2gb = Circle jerk for right wing nutters paid by consumers (everyone)

[MetaMetaphysician]

@Mollarooza

A private station localised to Sydney is paid for by everyone?

You need to think then type.

[Mollarooza]

@MetaMetaphysician yes, they rely on revenue from advertisers, who pays for that revenue you and me because we are consumers, so in effect I am paying for right wing propaganda on 2gb, not too much different from paying taxes for listening to abc

[666plb]

nobody ever asks fraser if he regrets supporting robert mugabe

[bigpoppa1234]

hmm that chick on the right is hot.

[TheLoneStranger0]

A pathetic, senile old fool. Poor Malcolm!

[MrAntiFarLeft]

bitter nonsense from the worst Liberal party PM ever.

[chavrecycling]

@MrAntiFarLeft The worst PM ever was the one who gave Saddam Hussein $395million; your hero John Howard; the poison dwarf.

[MrAntiFarLeft]

@chavrecycling worst pm's ever

1. whitlam

2.Rudd

3.Gillard

4.Keating

5.Fraser

[chavrecycling]

@MrAntiFarLeft Tell us more about your favourite PM; the one who gave Saddam Hussein $395 million dollars.

Why are you so shy? You supported Saddam all along. He was Donald Rumsfeld's friend, and Little Johnny arse licker's friend, and your friend.

You worship John Howard for supporting Saddam, just as you think Nick Griffin's a hero for supporting Gaddafi.

Tell us more, you filthy far right traitor.

[Atheeizm]

@MrAntiFarLeft hmm... perhaps a skinhead would be more your type as a leader? just saying.

[DMAN123223]

@MrAntiFarLeft I'm kind of shocked a conservative thinks Rudd was worse than Gillard.

[lmadigan1971]

Malcom fraser you fool what do you think Gillard did to get into power

She sold her soul to the Greens

[poopy50832]

tony abbott=DOGSHIT

[lmadigan1971]

@poopy50832 how come your comment and name are all about waste products

[Artspeakcentral]

Malcolm Fraser deserves the utmost respect for speaking his mind on the current Liberal Party.

[dcc1980]

Arrgh so true, Sadly Malcolm voters can't see this. Abbotts against maternity leave then he is for it. Abbotts say climate change is crap then he believes in climate change. Abbott suggests a carbon tax then he is against a carbon tax. Abbott believe in fiscal discpline then his costings get submitted to treasury and a 11 billion out. He will say and do anything to get in power, he is not someone who is worthy of the prime minstership sadly though I think he will become pm because of the media.

[crocodile2006]

Malcolm WHO?

[bigswano]

anything to get into power?

like breaking constitutional convention to stack the senate in your favour and then use it to block supply forcing the dismissal?

[Prod1Kh]

@bigswano One of those two senators was supplied by Sir Joh Bjelke-Peterson. Perhaps you'd better go back and study constitutional conventions and the Dismissal again.

[bigswano]

@Prod1Kh Joh was a Nationals Premier. Last I recall, the Nationals were part of the coalition. I know Fraser wasn't directly behind it, but he used his illegitimate majority to the full extent..

[Prod1Kh]

@bigswano Sir Joh was a law unto himself. He ignored the national leadership of the National Country Party and did what he wanted. Remember when he launched his "Joh for PM" campaign? It sunk Howard's attempt to beat Hawke. The senator Joh sent as a replacement for a dead ALP-er was his wife (she of the pumpkin scones). Fraser may have taken full advantage of his newfound majority, but he didn't make the majority happen. You specifically accused Fraser of breaking constitutional convention to...

[Prod1Kh]

... stack the senate. He did not do that. Because the convention was that state premiers nominate replacement senators. As for illegitimate, perhaps you should look into the Whitlam budgets that Fraser was blocking and his source of funding. Kerr also broke convention by taking advice from Fraser, who was not a Minister of the Crown, however, Whitlam was not telling the G-G that he could dissolve parliament through the Reserve Powers. It was all very messy.

[irishgodfatherchris]

@Prod1Kh also Kerr asked Justice Barwick for his opinion and he used that as his vindication, however Justice Barwick did not give his opinion as a member of the Judiciary but as a member of the public.

[Prod1Kh]

@irishgodfatherchris Which was not a constitutional convention.

[irishgodfatherchris]

@Prod1Kh exactly, which ultimately meant that Whitlam should he have seen fit could've said to Kerr "I do not accept this document, I am still the Prime Minister".

[Prod1Kh]

@irishgodfatherchris But, Whitlam was not giving Kerr all of the advice he should have, because he knew part of the advice was what Kerr ended up doing. As I said, all very messy. The point is, the constitution did give Kerr the power to do what he did. So, while who said what and did what didn't follow constitutional convention, his ultimate action did follow constitutional law and constitutional convention as there was already a precedent for it in Australia. Whitlam could not legally ignore.

[Soundgarden8497]

Malcolm Fraser? who is HE to comment on CHARACTER? hahahahaha

and i suppose he think Rudd and Gillard wouldn't do anything to stay in power?

oh please.....................

[winifredatwell]

I was a choolboy when I looked at Time magazine's cover story, HARD RIGHT FOR THE LUCKY COUNTRY. It was Dec 12 1975. Malcolm Fraser was then supposed to represent the ultra-conservative viewpoint. Now, he is, according to Kim Beazley, on the left of Beazley himself on a great many issues. Fraser hasn't changed. But, crikey, how Australia's political spectrum has moved in that time. Malcolm Fraser is now one of my heroes, a true liberal and one of the great advocates for humane policy.

[ummjw]

@winifredatwell So true, and so unfortunate...

[liberalcynic]

@winifredatwell ugly things have happened.

[ex0ja]

@winifredatwell so you would then consider yourself ultra conservative if it was 1975?

[mlawren7]

@ex0ja What an odd question.

[fishardansin]

@winifredatwell Well said but also a little scary!

[fluffysnakeful]

@winifredatwell You are totally correct.

[Snakelady99]

@winifredatwell Would have to agree.. for me I always thought Rudd got in because he was the most Liberal looking and sounding Labour leader that I can remember in my lifetime! but that was probably the only way to oust John Howard who was ultra far right, so much so the at former key players in the Liberal party campaigned against him, including the party leader! And I have to agree that Malcolm Fraser used tact and holds himself with dignity in this short video.

[megadak123]

just fk off you old bag you had your time and you failed and fkd the country with your liberal immigration policy and Lebanese concession.Just fk off and go dig your grave it will be best for your and the rest of us just fk off!

[MatthewFord93]

@megadak123 don't tell him to fk off, you FUCK off!

[megadak123]

@MatthewFord93 oh im so scared your really tough you know

[Prod1Kh]

@megadak123 It'd be ironic that you think you're clever by saying someone thinks they're tough on the internet. It would be, given that all they did was repeat your action, but that would only be if you had a brain. It isn't ironic, and you're neither smart nor tough, it's sad and pathetic, just like you.

[Agelos317]

@megadak123 Don't get angry at him, its not his fault that you live in a backwater suburb, have a poor education and low socioeconomic standard and that an Arab, with limited english skills, came to this country, worked tirelessly crawling through crap and dirt to raise his children to become doctors and lawyers who all now live in affluent suburbs. It's not Frazers fault at all that you are a hopeless, idle bigot with no aspirations or goals. Go listen to 2GB you fuck nut.

[megadak123]

@Agelos317 Arabs crawling through crap and Im sure your one of them dont worry I do listen to 2GB cocksucker

[TheSwearingBear]

@megadak123 'I do listen to 2GB cocksucker'.

Of course you do.

[maroonoasis]

@Agelos317 well said, old chap.

[Atheeizm]

@Agelos317 Beautiful.

[fluffysnakeful]

@Agelos317 oh, that was good. Bravo sir. The Liberal bootlickers that now hate Fraser and swear by Abbott are truly the scum of this society, and at the bottom of it's intellectual food chain. They don't understand squat, they are just scared shitless by the world.