"What is not sin then?... It is to 'meet the mark' or worship the Living God..not with ritualism and belief, but through communion....through feeling and breathing...through the Life of Love....Love communion...intimately associated with one's own very existence"
@Mousler100 Please listen to the talk before replying! :-)
There are fewer people whose view accomodates as many life choices as Adi Da's does.
Your reaction is not to Adi Da's view but to the Judeo-Christian view of sin (which is all about not doing this or that behavior). That's not Adi Da's view of sin! Adi Da's view of sin is "that which separates you from God / that which makes you un-Happy". To not "sin" is to be restored to Happiness, which is what we all really care about.
His realization is so strong that he could afford to relate to his devotees like the insane people that we were! For a period of time. He did this dance of self reflection.
Sin is violation of YHVH's law. Fortunately the law applies only to Bronze-Age desert nomads. "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law" Romans 3:19 And a very good thing, too, as the law results in more sin. "The law came that sin might ABOUND." Romans 5:20 As I am NOT a Bronze-Age desert dweller, the law has nothing to do with me. Therefore I am without sin. "Where there is no Law, there is no sin." Romans 4:15 The Bible tells me so.
Timeless Wisdom and Communication. Whenever I click play on a video of Adi Da its as though He comes to life for Real in that moment, it has no "old" feeling about it what-so-ever.
He Is Everywhere Alive, down the corridors of time and beyond.
I dont understand why 6 billion people dont watch this. its because the people in power dont want universal freedom. very sad, that we are being FORCED to sin!!! thank you adi da for speaking truth, i am now 90 % of the time ego less.xxxxxx I love you forever
It is important to understand that in the early years there was so little understanding of Adi Da, even among his enthusiastic devotees, or of the difficulty of establishing a new Dharma, that he had to continuosly meet peoples naive expectations, in order to keep the Sangha engaged.He acted as a comedian, a shaman,a philosopher, a party guy and everything else that was necessary to attract his devotees.
What is amazing is that he never compromised his teaching at all. It is always the same.
So little understanding? How about none, zero understanding. Luckily, the ideas are spreading and making themselves known to us through other means. How else can we explain having never seen Adi before and yet carrying the same message?
And yet -- because the ideas about Spiritual Transmission are useless without the Spiritual Transmitter, ultimately people are going to find Adi Da Himself to receive the actual Spiritual Revelation, not just talk about It.
Not! I've sat and laughed with Adi Da many times. Perhaps you don't laugh much yourself . . . but in fact, people enjoy having a good time, whether with their spiritual master (particularly if he happens to be telling jokes :-) ) or with their friends or family. If I laugh at my Uncle Ernie's jokes (good or bad), it's not because I'm being a sycophant, but because I love him, enjoy his company, and delight in contributing to the enjoyable time with the energy of my own laughter.
Beautiful response. Masterful. I showed What Is Sin? to my mother, and she had the same "too much laughter" response to the audience. She is very smart, yet she somehow decided the audience was laughing AT the mentally insane. (Narcissus, lighten up, you're going to kill my mother).
A relative nu devotee,i thought it odd,too. My sense of this laughter [that i hear in many earlier vids] & from what He said about these first,young,spiritually inexperienced devotees,is that they didn't have the maturity 2 profoundly recognize Who He Is,& therefore understand, the depth of His Communications. Their disposition may have been of being "entertained" @ the time. Those who stayed, are Gifted w/ being compassionately & patiently taken 2 the depth of understanding they are capable of.
Yes, I can see how it seems that way, but I'm sure you have also experienced times when you are just so happy that everything is amusing. And, in Adi Da's Company this often happens. He transmits His Realization which is ecstatic. "Ecstasy" actually means outside of oneself... so these people are outside of their usual character, unusually happy. But don't hold it against Adi Da -- that is my recommendation.
So, if one "recoils towards the self", into "inwardness" does this indicate loss of sanity? What if that one is behaving in such ways due to disgust and disappointment and mistrust of human nature. If that one still cares about God and Guru and still does their sadhana, does this been they have lost their sanity?!
Ooh, this is so good to come back to and be reminded of again!! lol Amazing how deeply some of our conditioning lies around this stuff. As Adi Da says, patterns like this are 'hell deep' sometimes.
good clip, great message (re: contracting).found myself thinking too of k.wilber dvlpmental AQAL approach to understanding relative reality esp. applied to comments on mental illness. i.e. circa 2007 in a more focused mode,if we wished,we could really get into a more granular understanding of etiology (aqal) of mental illness(i.e. some of the mentally ill due to genetic or dvlpmental issues just can't be classified in same "league" with a more average "neurotic" "conventional" "insanity")
that was very interesting. I found it a very serious sermon and something i have thought about.
i am a sinner! i will keep trying to feel and breathe more. I recall my deeper knowledge of all this as a child. (Of course).The mockery was a little out of step as the shepherd (and the child) gathers with compassion.but i feel your compassion is there when u centre.
Wow, I can't imagine all the suffering that's happened in the world due to people's misconceptions about sin. I wish everybody had a loving, compassionate answer, instead of the bullshit that gets told to scare people into behaving in a socially acceptable way, rather than with an intelligent response to life and love.
"What is not sin then?... It is to 'meet the mark' or worship the Living God..not with ritualism and belief, but through communion....through feeling and breathing...through the Life of Love....Love communion...intimately associated with one's own very existence"
laughingmanlives1 1 year ago
You were correct .. I didn't listen and was thinking Judeo-
Christian. Sorry.
Mousler100 1 year ago
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Mousler100 1 year ago
@Mousler100 Please listen to the talk before replying! :-)
There are fewer people whose view accomodates as many life choices as Adi Da's does.
Your reaction is not to Adi Da's view but to the Judeo-Christian view of sin (which is all about not doing this or that behavior). That's not Adi Da's view of sin! Adi Da's view of sin is "that which separates you from God / that which makes you un-Happy". To not "sin" is to be restored to Happiness, which is what we all really care about.
filmco24 1 year ago
Thank you Adi Da for that sharing.
billyjo1881 1 year ago
His realization is so strong that he could afford to relate to his devotees like the insane people that we were! For a period of time. He did this dance of self reflection.
Countrychiddler 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Timeless Wisdom and Communication. Whenever I click play on a video of Adi Da its as though He comes to life for Real in that moment, it has no "old" feeling about it what-so-ever.
He Is Everywhere Alive, down the corridors of time and beyond.
AvionDream 2 years ago
I dont understand why 6 billion people dont watch this. its because the people in power dont want universal freedom. very sad, that we are being FORCED to sin!!! thank you adi da for speaking truth, i am now 90 % of the time ego less.xxxxxx I love you forever
zogbreath 2 years ago
so liberating. thank you
happygolucky2000 2 years ago
Absolutely brilliant!
godszen 2 years ago
I agree!.
He has a way of putting what is going on
samraj09 2 years ago
It is important to understand that in the early years there was so little understanding of Adi Da, even among his enthusiastic devotees, or of the difficulty of establishing a new Dharma, that he had to continuosly meet peoples naive expectations, in order to keep the Sangha engaged.He acted as a comedian, a shaman,a philosopher, a party guy and everything else that was necessary to attract his devotees.
What is amazing is that he never compromised his teaching at all. It is always the same.
randananda 2 years ago 5
So little understanding? How about none, zero understanding. Luckily, the ideas are spreading and making themselves known to us through other means. How else can we explain having never seen Adi before and yet carrying the same message?
themanyone 2 years ago
And yet -- because the ideas about Spiritual Transmission are useless without the Spiritual Transmitter, ultimately people are going to find Adi Da Himself to receive the actual Spiritual Revelation, not just talk about It.
filmco24 2 years ago
Interesting thoughts and even exelent comedy, goes from hillarious to dead serious and back :D
MrBigSlit 2 years ago 2
Alas, Da has died. Become part of all of us, as He has been. He is in Heaven now, November 27, 2008
jaymacone 3 years ago
Yes, but the guru murti concept is just right for celebrity culture.
I s Adi DAM going to release a Guru Murti? An image of a teacher?
InvisibleNeedle 3 years ago 2
has he really passed on?
atlaseya 3 years ago 3
True Dat. Blessings.
TadRapidly 3 years ago
to much laughter, the audience is just as crazy as the people he is talking about, conditioned response of sicophantic agreement
tegid699 3 years ago 2
Not! I've sat and laughed with Adi Da many times. Perhaps you don't laugh much yourself . . . but in fact, people enjoy having a good time, whether with their spiritual master (particularly if he happens to be telling jokes :-) ) or with their friends or family. If I laugh at my Uncle Ernie's jokes (good or bad), it's not because I'm being a sycophant, but because I love him, enjoy his company, and delight in contributing to the enjoyable time with the energy of my own laughter.
filmco24 3 years ago
Beautiful response. Masterful. I showed What Is Sin? to my mother, and she had the same "too much laughter" response to the audience. She is very smart, yet she somehow decided the audience was laughing AT the mentally insane. (Narcissus, lighten up, you're going to kill my mother).
StevieSwigginburger 3 years ago 4
A relative nu devotee,i thought it odd,too. My sense of this laughter [that i hear in many earlier vids] & from what He said about these first,young,spiritually inexperienced devotees,is that they didn't have the maturity 2 profoundly recognize Who He Is,& therefore understand, the depth of His Communications. Their disposition may have been of being "entertained" @ the time. Those who stayed, are Gifted w/ being compassionately & patiently taken 2 the depth of understanding they are capable of.
searchless1 3 years ago
Yes, I can see how it seems that way, but I'm sure you have also experienced times when you are just so happy that everything is amusing. And, in Adi Da's Company this often happens. He transmits His Realization which is ecstatic. "Ecstasy" actually means outside of oneself... so these people are outside of their usual character, unusually happy. But don't hold it against Adi Da -- that is my recommendation.
ForwardBend 3 years ago
So, if one "recoils towards the self", into "inwardness" does this indicate loss of sanity? What if that one is behaving in such ways due to disgust and disappointment and mistrust of human nature. If that one still cares about God and Guru and still does their sadhana, does this been they have lost their sanity?!
meriprem 4 years ago
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StevieSwigginburger 3 years ago
the earth did not create sin, man did.
izaakwood 4 years ago
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StevieSwigginburger 3 years ago
Pure Wisdom.
stillanego 4 years ago 4
Ooh, this is so good to come back to and be reminded of again!! lol Amazing how deeply some of our conditioning lies around this stuff. As Adi Da says, patterns like this are 'hell deep' sometimes.
Chandirah 4 years ago
good clip, great message (re: contracting).found myself thinking too of k.wilber dvlpmental AQAL approach to understanding relative reality esp. applied to comments on mental illness. i.e. circa 2007 in a more focused mode,if we wished,we could really get into a more granular understanding of etiology (aqal) of mental illness(i.e. some of the mentally ill due to genetic or dvlpmental issues just can't be classified in same "league" with a more average "neurotic" "conventional" "insanity")
wmersy 4 years ago
that was very interesting. I found it a very serious sermon and something i have thought about.
i am a sinner! i will keep trying to feel and breathe more. I recall my deeper knowledge of all this as a child. (Of course).The mockery was a little out of step as the shepherd (and the child) gathers with compassion.but i feel your compassion is there when u centre.
m3ohmy 4 years ago
Awesome, thanks!!!
Wow, I can't imagine all the suffering that's happened in the world due to people's misconceptions about sin. I wish everybody had a loving, compassionate answer, instead of the bullshit that gets told to scare people into behaving in a socially acceptable way, rather than with an intelligent response to life and love.
Chandirah 4 years ago
thank you
LassMan 4 years ago 2
thx
logan4732 4 years ago