"Dark Kingdom, The Dragon King"... is indeed a really stupid name for the film, and it's said they've dumbed it down for American consumption. No matter the title, this film relies more on Wagner than on the original story. Wagner, not Tolkien, might be said to have "bastardized" this one.
"Wagner flatters his audience with the conceit that their libidinous impulses resonate with the Will of the World, and that their petty passions have the same cosmic significance as Iseult's or Kundy's [Arthurian lore].
Wagner portrayed as inevitable and even desirable the fall of the old order. his music turned the plunge into the abyss into an intimate, existential experience — redemptive bliss, a sacrifice restoring meaning to the orphans of traditional society. A new religion of impulse"
Oh goody, Europeans embracing Wagner's Ring Cycle, what could possibly go wrong.
"For in the Twilight of the Gods their impulses would be freed from the fetters of the law. How can one be rid of ancient society? Only by declaring war against traditions and morality."
,,Siegfried, Sohn des Konigs von der Niederlanden namends Siegmund , geht als Lehrling weg mit Meister Mimer ''.
You see. 'NIEDERLANDEN'
And i have multiple books wherein it says the samething from the NIEDERLANDEN. and Holland was way bigger in the early days, part of germany and whole of belgium.
yes, he was siegfried von niederlanden but "niederlanden" ist not the modern netherlands (look at wikipedia). he wasn't dutch. however, dutch and germans have the same ancestors, so it's stupid to argue about this.
HA, I worked on this. Great to see it torn into a large montage on YouTube. It was produced by Germans. The same guys that worked on 2012. It was fun to work on it.
Nice move, love Wagner's Ring and the legend, but you shouldn't call J.R.R. Tolkien such names. He took the ideas of a legend and used them in his story, which is also amazing.
There isn't an author living who didn't borrow from another source of some kind, and most religions are bastardizations of others and no one complains about that, so leave J.R.R Tolkien and his books alone.
@ElliePearl What J.R.R.Tolkin did was pretty common at the time, he spended just more time and work in it. C.S.Lewis did the same thing with his Narnia, a lot of unmarried scholars spended their free time at colleges like Oxford, writing this kind of things, in Europe they still do this, but in the time when people did not had TV, Internet, DVD, etc , they read more books and wrote more stuff, so they practiced their imagination way more than these days
Well said! Also, scholars have 35 or more versions of the Nibelung stories. Tolkien didn't exploit the Brunhild vs Kriemhold saga and his work is as original as any great story can ever be said to be.
I think the Ring of Nibelungs name would have sold better really, it would raise the attention of Lord of the Ring and tolkein fans for sure. In fact, Tolkein drew A LOT on Germanic beliefs, and also Celtic, for his stories.
Yeah, unfortunately. I have a copy of the original Das Nibelungenlied in Mittelhochdeutsch on my bookshelf with a modern German translation on the side. It's quite a read. German is my second language so it is difficult, but it is a good read.
"Dark Kingdom, The Dragon King"... is indeed a really stupid name for the film, and it's said they've dumbed it down for American consumption. No matter the title, this film relies more on Wagner than on the original story. Wagner, not Tolkien, might be said to have "bastardized" this one.
TheKean88 1 week ago
"Wagner flatters his audience with the conceit that their libidinous impulses resonate with the Will of the World, and that their petty passions have the same cosmic significance as Iseult's or Kundy's [Arthurian lore].
Wagner portrayed as inevitable and even desirable the fall of the old order. his music turned the plunge into the abyss into an intimate, existential experience — redemptive bliss, a sacrifice restoring meaning to the orphans of traditional society. A new religion of impulse"
13times 5 months ago
Oh goody, Europeans embracing Wagner's Ring Cycle, what could possibly go wrong.
"For in the Twilight of the Gods their impulses would be freed from the fetters of the law. How can one be rid of ancient society? Only by declaring war against traditions and morality."
13times 5 months ago
teutonic legend yes, but Siegfried was dutch ;-) Never forget that :P
TheGenX1979 6 months ago
@TheGenX1979
no, siegfried wasn't dutch. he was from xanten which is in germany.
TelumehtarOriOn 4 months ago
@TelumehtarOriOn NO !
,,Siegfried, Sohn des Konigs von der Niederlanden namends Siegmund , geht als Lehrling weg mit Meister Mimer ''.
You see. 'NIEDERLANDEN'
And i have multiple books wherein it says the samething from the NIEDERLANDEN. and Holland was way bigger in the early days, part of germany and whole of belgium.
TheGenX1979 4 months ago
@TheGenX1979
yes, he was siegfried von niederlanden but "niederlanden" ist not the modern netherlands (look at wikipedia). he wasn't dutch. however, dutch and germans have the same ancestors, so it's stupid to argue about this.
TelumehtarOriOn 4 months ago
HA, I worked on this. Great to see it torn into a large montage on YouTube. It was produced by Germans. The same guys that worked on 2012. It was fun to work on it.
robrowles 6 months ago
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robrowles 6 months ago
"Tamer of fire and elements." Sounds cool.
SomeNiceNameHere 7 months ago
gay
xxeb4sgxx 1 year ago
i falled in love in kristaana after watching this masterpiece
vlatkozen1994 1 year ago
this is the 1st movie makes me believe in true love tell death do us part.
manianaification 1 year ago
Never trust the christians!
Realiteit01 2 years ago
Nice move, love Wagner's Ring and the legend, but you shouldn't call J.R.R. Tolkien such names. He took the ideas of a legend and used them in his story, which is also amazing.
There isn't an author living who didn't borrow from another source of some kind, and most religions are bastardizations of others and no one complains about that, so leave J.R.R Tolkien and his books alone.
ElliePearl 2 years ago 9
@ElliePearl What J.R.R.Tolkin did was pretty common at the time, he spended just more time and work in it. C.S.Lewis did the same thing with his Narnia, a lot of unmarried scholars spended their free time at colleges like Oxford, writing this kind of things, in Europe they still do this, but in the time when people did not had TV, Internet, DVD, etc , they read more books and wrote more stuff, so they practiced their imagination way more than these days
TheGenX1979 6 months ago
Well said! Also, scholars have 35 or more versions of the Nibelung stories. Tolkien didn't exploit the Brunhild vs Kriemhold saga and his work is as original as any great story can ever be said to be.
TheKean88 1 week ago
This film is great. They didn't have to dumb down the title. I love Wagner,
and these ancient Nordic stories. I
hope I can find it.
vigo894 2 years ago
hey somebody can tell me where can I find this film? i wanna see this film again :'( is one of my fav.....
kotskp1 2 years ago
I love this film!!! And this video is very good, but I think Brunhild should by in this video more. :)
kakashixmira 2 years ago
imi face chef de gw sau wow
stephenc90 2 years ago
truly fantastic...thanks
jpandyaraja 2 years ago
:X
superb filmul
corina1808 2 years ago
foarte tare filmu,nam c reprosa:-??
medjay07 2 years ago 3
misto il vazui astaseara partea II :X pea misto filmu' xD
aleku88 2 years ago
Robert Pattinson <33333
PoldiGirl124 2 years ago
I hate that the world thinks we are all so dumb. The vast majority; yes. Not everyone though. Some U.S. Citizens are enlightened.
kimlovesart 3 years ago
cateva scene din acest film au fost filmate in PESTERA BOLII de langa Petrosani... :D
hailiemonroe 3 years ago 2
interesant
ancabttb 2 years ago
The Ring of the Nibelungs changed to "Dark Kingdom, the Dragon King" hahahaha wtf, couldn't have been worse.
there's no need to mock the american entertainment industry, it is already a caricature of itself.
as for this film, looks interesting; a bit too hollywoodian maybe.
intigfx 3 years ago
I think the Ring of Nibelungs name would have sold better really, it would raise the attention of Lord of the Ring and tolkein fans for sure. In fact, Tolkein drew A LOT on Germanic beliefs, and also Celtic, for his stories.
DerPoltergeist13 2 years ago
Even then I'm sure there would be smartasses saying "OMGZ this movie totally ripped off LOTR!!!!"
intigfx 2 years ago
Yeah, unfortunately. I have a copy of the original Das Nibelungenlied in Mittelhochdeutsch on my bookshelf with a modern German translation on the side. It's quite a read. German is my second language so it is difficult, but it is a good read.
DerPoltergeist13 2 years ago
holy shite thats alot of cherry sauce xD
SansakixD 3 years ago
They dumbed down the title for american consumption. hahhaha surrounded by degenerates.
Peiper 3 years ago