My brother Patrick Donohue a former NYPD insurance fraud detective was accused of raping a fellow camper at a basketball camp in 1988. The boy was drugged with sedative in orange soda-my mothers Seconal went missing at the same time. The boy was held down and repeatedly raped unconsious by several boys. I tried to turn him into the cops when I found out about the missing Seconal.
My brother still threatens people and is sexually agressive with me and my family but we have no way to escape
i am convinced that the amount of men and women that are raped is the same, the men just don't want to come forward because of how our media forces men to feel like they have to be.
i hate how people don't understand that men CAN and ARE victimized just as much as women and the after effects of the rape is THE SAME in both.
i hate how people don't realize that rapists are not "horny," they are just power-seeking sickos.
@JadotProductions Although male on male rape does happen more often than people think in the prison system, what you've stated here is simply not true. The fear of rape is something that every woman experiences in their life, sometimes on a daily basis, so I don't think it's right or sensitive of you to go around spreading that misinformation. According to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics for example, 91% of rape victims in the US are female. Get your facts straight.
I looked it up. I am getting crossed numbers, some say prison rape happen a lot more often, while others are saying it is about 150K a year (vs. 190K females a year.)
This is the dumbest song ever! Clearly everyone is against rape! It is as effective as those idiots who walk around with candles chanting 2 4 6 8 no more date rape. What is this bands next song going to be? Racism is bad? Hitler was not the best guy? Stabbing your mother in the heart with a knife is not the best way to go about a dispute with her? Maybe this would be a relevant song in south africa or another country where rape is running ramped, but I find it to be pointless.
We should be attempting to understand and rehabilitate these people - most of them have to deal with traumas in their own lives and punishing them will just make them more resentful of society and more likely to re-offend. Destroying is just an act of vengeance and not worthy of a liberal society!
men and women r animals none the less. a guy that rapes a lady and vice-versa is doing nothing but surrending to an animal desire, which is disgusting in any society. anyway, this is just a statement of the obvious.
calm down, girls. the video is great, the song is something I imagine Phil Spector would be doing if he wasnt so full of shit, so cheers to The Raveonettes.
This is gonna get me a lot of heat, but the message in this song is completely false. That was, by any measure, NOT the best guitar solo ever.
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A man is raped every 4 minutes - that's about 400 a day - in America's prisons. Alberto Gonzales' DOJ admits to over 60,000 rapes per year in prison. Human Rights Watch and other NGO's involved put the number at more than twice that. You can learn more about this and other unsavoury aspects of our prisons by googling "hidingfromgoro prison nation".
I think everyone is already pretty aware of prison rapes - the problem is rather to get it into peoples heads that rape doesn't suddenly turn into a hilarous joke as soon as the victim is male.
Yeah, exactly, I used to laugh at them but then I grew up. I try not to be so serious about it, but I figured what the heck this here is a whole video/song about rape so why not throw that out there. Youtube comments sections are pretty much an intellectual wasteland but sometimes I try anyway. Shoveling shit against the tide, yes, but ya just gotta keep shoveling.
when 1 in 6 men are raped or sexually assaulted during their life, we can start worrying about that problem. but that's not the case
however by the most reliable estimates, 1 in 6 women in the us will be raped or sexually assaulted in their lifetime. that's not an exaggeration or cooked stats. if you know more than 6 women (mom, sisters, aunts, co-workers, whatever), you probably know a rape victim, even if you aren't aware of it. if that doesn't give you some perspective, you are hopeless
@drone81 1 in 33 men are sexually abused. Obviously it's a bigger problem with women but that does't mean you should just forget about the fact men are sexually abused too. There is gay sexual abuse and abuse where women are the abusers. I personally think the song should be "those who rape." I don't blame men for sexual abuse but I do blame pedophiles which doesn't come with a certain gender. The guy who started RAINN was abused by a women.
@ModBeatnikGirl i've acknowledged that. however, my point was about perspective. acknowledging that rape of females is at epidemic levels and deserves a focused effort does not imply that we should ignore the rape of others. obviously any rape is unacceptable. but when one class of victims is orders of magnitude larger than another, the focus should be on the larger if you want to make the biggest dent you can. that doesn't mean ignoring other victims; it just means setting realistic priorities
@ModBeatnikGirl the huge disparity in statistics between the genders strongly suggests differing root causes, which in turn suggests differing approaches to solving those problems. for example, the culture of misogynistic victim-blaming present in male-on-female rape is radically different from the vengeful attitude that allows the acceptance of prison rape, and both are very different from the institutionalized cover-ups of child rape in religious groups.
@ModBeatnikGirl "should" and "realistically possible" are two very different things. it's easy to say what we should do if we could do anything at all, but we do not have unlimited resources, and broadening our efforts to encompass each context regardless of frequency contexts results in a diluted message and very limited effectiveness. the fact is that if you look at the relevant statistics and conclude that sexual abuse of women and men deserve equal attention, you're fucking nuts.
@drone81 I'm sorry but I don't understand. A diluted message is saying only women should get help, that;s wrong. Anyone abused regardless of gender or anything at all should seek help and work to put the person behind bars. You seem to be looking at it as a whole which doesn't make any sense. You help the PEOPLE who need help. Not refuse to help because they're men. There is no need to curse me out, I don't need to have a conversationw ith an immature person. Im not trying to start an arguement
@drone81 The point is that it's a human right to heal from abuse. Not a womens right or a mens right, and I am women so this isn't a biased opinion. Favoring women over men is disgusting and vice versa. It's about equality. Not being sexist and looking at men as less in need. I would reline your values. People who look at things the way you do don't get anything done because your too busy judging and looking at statistics. Men aren't abused only in prison and in church that's completely ignorant
@ModBeatnikGirl listen very carefully: i'm not saying we just ignore male victims of sexual abuse. i'm saying there is one class of crimes--sexual assault on females by males--that is orders of magnitude more prevalent than other kinds. when that is the case, rational people see that there is a special need to address that category with more vigor.
as for the rest, you are trying to put words in my mouth, in which case you can fuck right off.
@drone81 Excuse me, but I can state my opinion just like you can regardless when you post your comments . I agree it effects women more. My point is just to help anyone who needs it not just focus on a ceratin people, and that's what professionals do is help all. I'm not putting words in your mouth. You're speaking your own words. Like I said before, I'm not interested in talking to someone who can't handle an adult conversation with class. "Fuck this and fuck that." You just sound like trash.
@ModBeatnikGirl hey speaking of professionals, there are professionals who specialize in female sexual abuse victims, and there are other professionals who specialize in child sexual abuse victims, and others who specialize in male sexual abuse victims. why? because they recognize that these are VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.
and yes, you're putting words in my mouth. i never said male sexual abuse was limited to priest molestation or prison rape. i used them as examples. there's a huge difference.
@drone81 i never disagreed with that lol. And if you were well informed you wouldn't of used obvious examples. Your putting words in my mouth by thinking I'm disagreeing. I just think anyone abused needs therapy regardless of any rhyme or reason. I know there are many different types of abuse, I'm not stupid. I'm just saying that women don't have it worse than men. Abuse is abuse, and therefore all should be focused on. We're going in circles when I agree with most of what your saying.Stupidity.
@ModBeatnikGirl so apparently you disagreed with something else i never fucking said. wheeee fun.
(and while individual victims don't have it any better or worse than one another, the general population of women on the whole does have it worse than the population of men. more women are raped than men are; ergo, there is a worse problem with women being raped than men, and being a naive little hippy about it isn't going to change that fact.)
@ModBeatnikGirl and as for not wanting an argument, you're the one who asked me to dredge up a 10 month old train of thought like it was brand spanking new. just keep that in mind.
@drone81 hahahaa. And don't yell at her for stating her opinion she did like you did. If you didn't want anyone replying to you then remove your comment otherwise you are going to get feedback. Obviously we need to help everyone not just females, fucking idiot.
@MissHannahJanel i don't mind feedback, and i don't mind opinions. what i mind is people who are unable to comprehend the words in front of their face, and who are unable to read something without projecting ideas that aren't there.
so if you're going to strawman me all day, save us both the trouble and shut the fuck up.
@drone81 and I'm not interested in having this discussion if your basing it off of what you hear on the news or read because that's stupidity. Statistics aren't accurate. People abuse because they are pedophiles which doesn't come with an age or gender, alone with victims. My points been made so I'm done.
@ModBeatnikGirl here's a clue: some statistics are accurate, and some are not. the census, for example, is pretty friggin' reliable. the stat about 1 in 6 women being sexually assaulted is pretty universally agreed upon to be on the *low* end. the actual number could be much, much higher, to the tune of 20-25%.
@drone81 ok? So is the male statistic. Why are you dragging this out? I don't care about facts. Just people getting help who need it. That's not going to change.
@drone81 I told you I don't care about who and how many are abused just that they, regardless who they are get help and they lock the sickos up. Why are you arguing this so hard? What did you do time yoursef or something? Because what disgustign person even tries to argue certain types of people shouldn't get as much helpf or this? And I'm sorry but 1/4 of the felmale population has not been abused. You really are stupid if you keep read what I am saying to you. Because you don't even seem to be
@drone81 Really read this: People/humans who are abused need to get help. Period. Women are abused more than men. I KNOW THAT for the millionth time and I agree with that because it's true. But it does not take away the truth that men are also abused. It is less, yes. But that does not take away the value that they need help too. This isn't much of an arguement because you're trying to take more digs at me than actually talk about the topic. It just makes you look like a pretencious idiot.
@ModBeatnikGirl no, you listen carefully dipshit: you don't stop rape by treating victims. yes, all victims deserve help and compassion, but that doesn't stop rapes from happening. women are sexually assaulted much more often than men; ergo, the sexual assault of women is a bigger problem in america than the rape of men. as a result, more effort should be expended to stop the rape of women because it is a bigger problem.
if you cannot understand that, you are dumber than pile of cow shit.
@drone81 Actually I am going to say sorry because I don't know you in real life, I can't judge you. It's immature and juvinile to go back and forth like this, and it's getting boring. I really do hope though you will stop harassing and hating on other people. Because these bullshit internet fights of calling people names and arguing who is right is just childish on both are parts. Peace.
@drone81 stomping your feet an whining like a baby how immature another person is, when shes the one who ended the arguement like an adult maturely, does not make you sound mature or older but childish, juvenile, and pathetic.
@drone81 Now your stealing my comments LOL. I said "Whatever you need to say to make you feel better, hun." Please, get some originality. Emo? That's a subculture not an insult. Don't worry someday you should be able to think on your own <3
@MissHannahJanel oh emo is definitely an insult. just because you don't realize it doesn't make it any less of a pathetic expression of bougie childishness.
@drone81 Emo is a subculture and style. If i call you preppy, or a skater, or street, or goth, or whatever, it's not an insult it's just a style lol. I'm sorry but I am very girly, and I'm not a dark person. Emo is irrelevant to me so it's hard to be insulted by something that I'm not, and wouldn't have a problem with if I was, it's a style not something I'm going to go cry over haha.
@ModBeatnikGirl also i'm seriously laughing at how you came back to revise your comments four hours in a row while trying to rip someone for spending 'all day' on youtube or whatever. have fun with that whole pot/kettle conversation.
@drone81 YOU ARE THE DUMBEST FUCKING PERSON. SHE BLOCKED YOU, DUMBASS. SHE CAN'T ASEE YOUR COMMENTS EVERYONE IS AGREEING WITH YOU THAT WOMEN ARE A BIGGER PROBLEM YOU MOTHER FUCKING RETARD. WERE YOU KICKED OUT OF THE SPECIAL ED CLASS? WE ARE AGREEING WITH YOU, FUCKING DUMBASS WHITE TRASH. IT'S THE PART WHERE YOU WROTE "when 1 in 6 men are raped or sexually assaulted during their life, we can start worrying about that problem" BOTH ARE AN ISSUE YOU FUCKTARD. EVERYONE IS AN ISSUE. SEXIST CUNT.
@MissHannahJanel "sexist cunt." that's a new one. do you call people "racist niggers" too?
but that's the line that's got you in such a tizzy? oh dear, you seem to be dumber than a sack of hammers.
see, the rape of men is simply not an epidemic social problem. it's just not. bigger fish to fry, more pressing matters, that sort of thing. maybe when you get out of high school you'll understand that when one problem is bigger than another, you should worry more about the bigger problem.
@drone81 I'm in college but nice try. Sexist and cunt have nothing to do with each other, so you might want to look up exactly what cunt means, dipshit. "Tizzy?" Yeah, definately some creepy perv stuff going on there. I AGREE YOU MOTHER FUCKING DUMBASS THAT WOMEN ARE A BIGGER ISSUE. There is no way that I can say that any more clearer. In my entire life I have never spoken to anyone who could not comprehend a single sentence. Goddamn, so fucking stupid it's truly unbelievable
@MissHannahJanel 'cunt' is considered a misogynistic slur against women. go ask any women's studies professor.
a 'tizzy' is an old-fashioned word for a temper tantrum. nothing sexual or creepy about it.
look up the research in those databases they provide you at the college library. studies conducted since the mid-90s have shown no causal link between being abused and becoming an abuser. none whatsoever.
@drone81 and yes congrats cunt is a slur like bitch and fuck and dick. Ask a womens studies prof?? LOL i didn;'t know they majored in swearing too. I don't need to your the one who had to look up the meaning, dumbass.But its nothing like saying "racist nig***" and your fucking horrible for even using n*****. Sexist and racist? Boy your a combo package. @SOG is right...your just a troll with nothing else to do, and I'm sorry but you REALLY need to look up abuse.
@drone81 people are saying they AGREE there are more women, but that doesn't mean men aren't a problem! Men don't report it as often as women. It's proven. They hide it more and research has been done the percentages are closer than you think. So actually do some fucking research on what you are saying. There are most likely more women but more women come forward then men. Also everyone needs to be treated after abuse because they ARE HUMAN. NOT BECAUSE THEY LACK A DICK. You are sexist.
@drone81 HOW FUCKING STUPIF CAN YOU BE TO NOT KNOW THAT, THAT IS HOW THERAPY WORKS??? PEDOPHILES GET THERAPY AND MEDS TO STOP RAPING PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ABUSED GET COUNSELING NOT TO REPEAT THE OFFENSE. YOU ARE SO FUCKING DUMB YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW HOW ABUSE WORKS?????? IT'S A FUCKING CYCLE LIKE THAT PERSON SAID. DUMBASS. ENLIGTHEN US HOW WE STOP IT THEN OTHER THAN JAIL AND COUNSELING???????????????????
@drone81 I mean one girl posted a comment just stating that men are as important as women, and you try to disagree with that? YES, we all understand your point: There are more women sexual abuse cases than men. But you know what? That does NOT make their value any more important. You can't "focus" on a certain area. You tackle the bigger problem of sexual abuse entirely and help who comes to you. If you can't comprehend, except, grasp, understand, or try to fight that. U truly are pathetic.
@drone81 But your blocked, so I won't be receiving anymore of your lovely, ignorant, brain dead babble and repetative juvenile insults. You can continue to harass people online like the loser you are until you finally get some sort of self satisfaction out of it. Have a nice day (:
and a perfectly sane person can see that when one group is victimized at a rate five times more often than another, that the first group needs more help than the other. i am talking about groups here, as in a class of victims and crimes. i am not talking about individual victims. obviously all sexual abuse victims should receive an equal amount of help.
@SpookyOokyGirl yeah sorry but experiencing prior sexual abuse has shown no causal relationship to future abuse, there is no such thing as a 'cycle of abuse' in this context, and it's a pretty horrible stereotype to believe in.
but the reason i'm still babbling about it is because that's the only thing i've been saying this whole goddamn time but you nitwits insist on turning that statement into something that it's not. if you agree with me, great, shut the fuck up and move on.
@drone81 But I am done with this because I don't waste my time with ignorant people. You know nothing abuse, sexual abuse criminals, or how it works. You sit on your lazyass all day harassing people online when you don't understand what your saying. You look pathetic, and are patheic and dumb screaming at people that they're "dogshit" when they're agreeing with you. Are you saying stuff just to troll and piss people off?
@drone81 Because no one who is an abuser has ever had a happy home life. They have been abused in some way to become the way they are. They are either born with pedophilia, or have been physically, sexually, or emotional abused (such as bullying). I can't post links in the comments. But I will message you at least 5 links written by doctors. You are the most ignorant person no to know this
@drone81 I can comperehend what the your saying fine. You are just a fucking dipshit. Many men don't talk about their abuse. The statistics are only recordings of abuse people hace stated. You're a fucking dumbass. I agree with the others. GET THE FUCK OFF YOUTUBE. You probably raped a guy yourself. Pedophile.
@MissHannahJanel yup, many male sexual abuse cases go unreported. guess what? the same thing happens with female sexual abuse victims, and to an equal or higher degree.
and no, i don't think you know how to read very well.
@drone81 I agree with Modbeatnik girl. It's completely fucked up for you to think only women should get help. Obviously you don't know what you are talking about because you are so immature and ignorant about the situation. So you should just say fuck off to all the men who were abused? And how stupid can be to assume it's only prison and by preists boys get abused. Attempt to produce a few brain cells.
@MissHannahJanel i said there should be a focus. i never said anything about telling male victims of sexual abuse to fuck off. nor did i say anything about such victims being limited to prisoners or altar boys; those were examples.
@drone81 and I'm not interested in having this discussion if your basing it off of what you hear on the news or read because that's stupidity. Statistics aren't accurate. People abuse because they are pedophiles which doesn't come with an age or gender, alone with victims. My points been made so I'm done.
How could you get raped by a woman?? You would need to get aroused in the first place for the alleged rape to happen! And if you get aroused that means you were enjoying it! Men cannot be 'raped' by a woman, get it in your head!!
YOU are awful! How can someone give a consent while being raped??? What a nonsence! There should be no rape in the first place! The fact that you are trying to reason a rape only proves that you are a brainless idiot who should be locked up in a hospital for criminally insane. The way you think imposes a danger to society. Why don't you go and ask you mother whether she thinks she could arouse while being raped??
It's a FACT that women can become physically aroused while being raped and that DOES NOT mean consent. It's a FACT that men can become physically aroused whilst not consenting. If anyone here is reasoning and justifying rape, IT'S YOU. MEN CAN BE RAPED. WOMEN CAN BE RAPED. YOU FUCKING DISGUSTING WASTE OF FLESH.
Get it into your thick skull, physical arousal does not mean consent, it's another horrifying and sad fact associated with SOME rapes. Go talk to a rape victim, you dumb cunt.
You initially wrote, I quote: "Women can become physically aroused during rape. Does that mean they suddenly consent? "
So is it me or you who is questioning the rape and consent? Certainly you, YOU DUMB CUNT!!! Where is the foundation to any of your claim? Submit evidence you idiot. Boys who think and talk like you should be destroyed.
Many sexual abuse survivors have trouble dealing with the fact that their body was sexually stimulated and felt aroused during the abuse. They may feel guilty and ashamed that they responded to the stimulation, and confused about why they did.
Karachi police have registered a case against three unidentified women who allegedly abducted a man and raped him over four consecutive days, and later throwing him near Qayyumabad River in an unconscious state.
"Examines whether unsolicited or non-consensual sexual stimulation of either females or males can lead to unwanted sexual arousal or even to orgasm. The conclusion is that such scenarios can occur and that the induction of arousal and orgasm does not indicate that the subjects consented to the stimulation."
hahaha, it is getting better and better...NOT! You are most certainly NOT a girl and you most certainly were not raped. You are also most certainly mentally ill, watch you language, you primitive!
I am a girl. I had a male 'friend' forcibly perform oral sex on me. How dare you question that.
You just keep proving yourself to be a morally devoid bitch. How dare you even call yourself a woman, you're betraying your own gender. Words cannot express my disgust.
You seem to be very confused. Calm down and read through your and mine emails very carefully and tell me what is it I am saying is betraying my own gender? All I said was, that there should be no rape and that I am horrified at rapistst. After that you asked me the rather academic question, I quote: ....Does that mean they suddenly consent? " And I wonder, how can YOU call yourself a woman with such a 'filthy' mouth calling me names like cunt & bitch etc.??? Be disghusted at yourself you psycho!
No one is forcing you to read my comments and no one is interested in your response to my comments either. If you steel feel being raped and violated you must be paranoid. I suggest you turn yourself into a psychiatric hospital.
I am your senior by more than 10 years and I could write a book about men & their inappropriate behaviour towards me! So even if I believed you are who you claim to be, it would still leave me unimpressed and it certainly would not justify your language and accusations.
Look, you said men couldn't be raped because they'd have to get aroused. I pointed out that women can SOMETIMES get aroused during rape, and arousal does not mean consent. You continued to argue, god knows why, accusing me of supporting rape when I do nothing of the sort. I got angry, because you believe that only men can perpetrate rape, which is SEXIST AND UNTRUE. Oh, and you quite happily called me a cunt, so you're also a fucking hypocrite.
Probably unlike you, I have a demanding full time job and very busy social life too, so I could not be asked to read through any evidence submitted by some rude hysterical person.
Yeah, that's what I thought. You've got NOTHING left, you know you're wrong and you can't admit to it, so instead it's "well, I'm busy and cool unlike you, heh" and "well, you're rude and dumb so I'm not talking to you any more".
You're wrong. You can't debate for shit. I just hope you come away from this realising that rape isn't the exclusive domain of women, and that men can be victimised too. Which was what I said in the first place.
No, you keep changing your opinions, your points and evidence are inconsistent and in general to me you are a rude person of no consequence so no point talking to you at all. I still do not agree with anything you wrote but do not wish to waste any more time with you.
My opinions, points and evidence are not inconsistent, they all say the same thing; people can become aroused during rape, and men can be raped by women. If you really can't understand and agree with that, there's something wrong with you.
the new raveonettes is incredible... and this song is great to. fucking wannabe critic fucking idiots. the point is - no abuse towards women is okay. if anyone thinks that then i fuckign rebuke thee fucking vile internet troll
@destroyourselves settle down big guy.i dont give a shit about the lyrics. music isnt about lyrics. i just like the melody. look at the mars volta. their lyrics mean absolutely nothing but theyre one of the more successful credible bands out there.
Yeah the melody is awesome, first fifty seconds of playing one guitar string repeated over and over.
Also, lyrics are intrinsic part of music. Or are you trying to tell me "God Save the Queen" would be the same if it was called "Dun ding dee dum" and was just the melody?
i like how blunt the song and video is. no stupid metaphors, just straight to the point.
yes rape is obviously bad but it's one of those things that when you actually stop and think about it, all this uncontrollable hate starts to rise where you just want to punch someone in the face or throw up. having the strength to overcome something as unforgivable as rape amazes me.
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I been raped by a women and if u tell people that they laugh WTF
zerocool1ist 5 days ago
My brother Patrick Donohue a former NYPD insurance fraud detective was accused of raping a fellow camper at a basketball camp in 1988. The boy was drugged with sedative in orange soda-my mothers Seconal went missing at the same time. The boy was held down and repeatedly raped unconsious by several boys. I tried to turn him into the cops when I found out about the missing Seconal.
My brother still threatens people and is sexually agressive with me and my family but we have no way to escape
taraannrose 3 weeks ago
i agree with The Raveonettes
hALi0819 2 months ago
1:39 sesiones con alejandro franco (:
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howardquayle 2 months ago
i am convinced that the amount of men and women that are raped is the same, the men just don't want to come forward because of how our media forces men to feel like they have to be.
i hate how people don't understand that men CAN and ARE victimized just as much as women and the after effects of the rape is THE SAME in both.
i hate how people don't realize that rapists are not "horny," they are just power-seeking sickos.
kill them all.
murder them.
RachelDoesntknow 5 months ago in playlist Soungs About.
kill em all
cocoguerra23 5 months ago in playlist THE RAVEONETTES:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 4
seeing the graphic images doesnt make me more or less opposed to rape. it just makes my stomach feel ache-y.
greenkoolayd 7 months ago
this song is good, but wtf... what a happy melody for those lyrics :D
llovdw 8 months ago
PS eaither way it is still a male raping.
JadotProductions 11 months ago
I Love the pic at 2:18 Sune Rose With a .44
MrShagnasty18 1 year ago
i'm writing an essay on the bosnian war, where war rape was common. this song came on by coincidence. not gonna lie, it freaked me out..
cyberwastemandy91 1 year ago
I agree, all rapist should be destroyed.
That being said.....
Actually male on male rape happens MORE often than male on female in the US. This hidden fact is due to the US prison system.
JadotProductions 1 year ago
@JadotProductions Although male on male rape does happen more often than people think in the prison system, what you've stated here is simply not true. The fear of rape is something that every woman experiences in their life, sometimes on a daily basis, so I don't think it's right or sensitive of you to go around spreading that misinformation. According to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics for example, 91% of rape victims in the US are female. Get your facts straight.
backinburntcity 1 year ago 9
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I looked it up. I am getting crossed numbers, some say prison rape happen a lot more often, while others are saying it is about 150K a year (vs. 190K females a year.)
In any case the actual numbers are fairly close.
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MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
my favorite line is when she says "those fuckers stay in your head" lol idk why but i love that part
pandaweekend 1 year ago
I think this song is cool BECAUSE it states the obvious. It's a basic sentiment and it hits the spot musically.
sowhatfucka 1 year ago
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it's mainly white women that are raped and then murdered by afro-bozos
real80smusic 1 year ago
This is the dumbest song ever! Clearly everyone is against rape! It is as effective as those idiots who walk around with candles chanting 2 4 6 8 no more date rape. What is this bands next song going to be? Racism is bad? Hitler was not the best guy? Stabbing your mother in the heart with a knife is not the best way to go about a dispute with her? Maybe this would be a relevant song in south africa or another country where rape is running ramped, but I find it to be pointless.
hagan311 1 year ago
I agree with the lyrics - not mad keen on the song itself
KiteSwift 1 year ago
que bueno que buenoooooooo!!!!! que BUENO
BELLARTERA 1 year ago
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women who have been raped or beaten should have just shut the fuck up and/or stayed in the kitchen
BrendanIsCool 1 year ago
We should be attempting to understand and rehabilitate these people - most of them have to deal with traumas in their own lives and punishing them will just make them more resentful of society and more likely to re-offend. Destroying is just an act of vengeance and not worthy of a liberal society!
jackal2071 1 year ago
Song sucks.
liliodine 2 years ago
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i gotted rape and my butt said i no like.
CatMaster9000 2 years ago
No matter who does it to whom, Rape is wrong. The title of the song couldn't ring more true.
Not the best vid at all, but this song is great.
To the fuckers joking about this subject, you should be destroyed as well.
11NightAngel11 2 years ago 29
i could care less about all the rape crap you guys are on about, you're missing the real point.
This song sucks shit.
K, back to your flamewar children.
jmg3k3000 2 years ago
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Rape is awesome. 420 rape every day.
aerdil 2 years ago
men and women r animals none the less. a guy that rapes a lady and vice-versa is doing nothing but surrending to an animal desire, which is disgusting in any society. anyway, this is just a statement of the obvious.
calm down, girls. the video is great, the song is something I imagine Phil Spector would be doing if he wasnt so full of shit, so cheers to The Raveonettes.
boredsilly3 2 years ago
nice sentiment, horrible song
bluntedtaoism 2 years ago
love that epilepsy part. what about young boys who rape? maybe like 11 yo?
coocoocoocoooo 2 years ago
This is gonna get me a lot of heat, but the message in this song is completely false. That was, by any measure, NOT the best guitar solo ever.
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A man is raped every 4 minutes - that's about 400 a day - in America's prisons. Alberto Gonzales' DOJ admits to over 60,000 rapes per year in prison. Human Rights Watch and other NGO's involved put the number at more than twice that. You can learn more about this and other unsavoury aspects of our prisons by googling "hidingfromgoro prison nation".
gecafe 2 years ago
What are you trying to say?? Those male rape victims in prisons you are referring to are obviously raped by another male, so what is your point???
MrsCzechMate 2 years ago
Awareness of prison rape. What else would be the point?
gecafe 2 years ago
I think everyone is already pretty aware of prison rapes - the problem is rather to get it into peoples heads that rape doesn't suddenly turn into a hilarous joke as soon as the victim is male.
HelIeane 2 years ago 12
Yeah, exactly, I used to laugh at them but then I grew up. I try not to be so serious about it, but I figured what the heck this here is a whole video/song about rape so why not throw that out there. Youtube comments sections are pretty much an intellectual wasteland but sometimes I try anyway. Shoveling shit against the tide, yes, but ya just gotta keep shoveling.
gecafe 2 years ago 2
@HelIeane Thank you for saying that!
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
fucking lol'd at 2:26. and i lol'd HARD.
OpakeArawra2 2 years ago 2
si el mundo fuera perfecto los raveonettes serían mas valorados
maybje 2 years ago
Completamente de acuerdo. No entiendo porque no son tan conocidos, no hacen música dificil de digerir...
24Fighter 2 years ago
Why is it only guys who rape who should be destroyed?
If I get raped by a woman I'm going to feel pretty shit about it too.
Jabbasaur 2 years ago
if you're a guy, you're lying.
unless she's real fugly
MommyCallsMeSpecial 2 years ago
women can't rape weirdo
sheepcidus 2 years ago
@sheepcidus women have been convicted of rape in several cases fyi
barackorama69 2 years ago 2
says barack obama ie a liar
sheepcidus 2 years ago
yes they can
female teachers who seduce their students are in fact just as guilty of rape as priests who molest alter boys
drone81 2 years ago 2
when 1 in 6 men are raped or sexually assaulted during their life, we can start worrying about that problem. but that's not the case
however by the most reliable estimates, 1 in 6 women in the us will be raped or sexually assaulted in their lifetime. that's not an exaggeration or cooked stats. if you know more than 6 women (mom, sisters, aunts, co-workers, whatever), you probably know a rape victim, even if you aren't aware of it. if that doesn't give you some perspective, you are hopeless
drone81 2 years ago 14
@drone81 1 in 33 men are sexually abused. Obviously it's a bigger problem with women but that does't mean you should just forget about the fact men are sexually abused too. There is gay sexual abuse and abuse where women are the abusers. I personally think the song should be "those who rape." I don't blame men for sexual abuse but I do blame pedophiles which doesn't come with a certain gender. The guy who started RAINN was abused by a women.
ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl i've acknowledged that. however, my point was about perspective. acknowledging that rape of females is at epidemic levels and deserves a focused effort does not imply that we should ignore the rape of others. obviously any rape is unacceptable. but when one class of victims is orders of magnitude larger than another, the focus should be on the larger if you want to make the biggest dent you can. that doesn't mean ignoring other victims; it just means setting realistic priorities
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 you should focus on everyone. Not everything is a statistic to fix. Gender shouldn't matter.
ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl the huge disparity in statistics between the genders strongly suggests differing root causes, which in turn suggests differing approaches to solving those problems. for example, the culture of misogynistic victim-blaming present in male-on-female rape is radically different from the vengeful attitude that allows the acceptance of prison rape, and both are very different from the institutionalized cover-ups of child rape in religious groups.
drone81 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl "should" and "realistically possible" are two very different things. it's easy to say what we should do if we could do anything at all, but we do not have unlimited resources, and broadening our efforts to encompass each context regardless of frequency contexts results in a diluted message and very limited effectiveness. the fact is that if you look at the relevant statistics and conclude that sexual abuse of women and men deserve equal attention, you're fucking nuts.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 I'm sorry but I don't understand. A diluted message is saying only women should get help, that;s wrong. Anyone abused regardless of gender or anything at all should seek help and work to put the person behind bars. You seem to be looking at it as a whole which doesn't make any sense. You help the PEOPLE who need help. Not refuse to help because they're men. There is no need to curse me out, I don't need to have a conversationw ith an immature person. Im not trying to start an arguement
ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@drone81 The point is that it's a human right to heal from abuse. Not a womens right or a mens right, and I am women so this isn't a biased opinion. Favoring women over men is disgusting and vice versa. It's about equality. Not being sexist and looking at men as less in need. I would reline your values. People who look at things the way you do don't get anything done because your too busy judging and looking at statistics. Men aren't abused only in prison and in church that's completely ignorant
ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl listen very carefully: i'm not saying we just ignore male victims of sexual abuse. i'm saying there is one class of crimes--sexual assault on females by males--that is orders of magnitude more prevalent than other kinds. when that is the case, rational people see that there is a special need to address that category with more vigor.
as for the rest, you are trying to put words in my mouth, in which case you can fuck right off.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 Excuse me, but I can state my opinion just like you can regardless when you post your comments . I agree it effects women more. My point is just to help anyone who needs it not just focus on a ceratin people, and that's what professionals do is help all. I'm not putting words in your mouth. You're speaking your own words. Like I said before, I'm not interested in talking to someone who can't handle an adult conversation with class. "Fuck this and fuck that." You just sound like trash.
ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl hey speaking of professionals, there are professionals who specialize in female sexual abuse victims, and there are other professionals who specialize in child sexual abuse victims, and others who specialize in male sexual abuse victims. why? because they recognize that these are VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.
and yes, you're putting words in my mouth. i never said male sexual abuse was limited to priest molestation or prison rape. i used them as examples. there's a huge difference.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 i never disagreed with that lol. And if you were well informed you wouldn't of used obvious examples. Your putting words in my mouth by thinking I'm disagreeing. I just think anyone abused needs therapy regardless of any rhyme or reason. I know there are many different types of abuse, I'm not stupid. I'm just saying that women don't have it worse than men. Abuse is abuse, and therefore all should be focused on. We're going in circles when I agree with most of what your saying.Stupidity.
ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl so apparently you disagreed with something else i never fucking said. wheeee fun.
(and while individual victims don't have it any better or worse than one another, the general population of women on the whole does have it worse than the population of men. more women are raped than men are; ergo, there is a worse problem with women being raped than men, and being a naive little hippy about it isn't going to change that fact.)
drone81 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl and as for not wanting an argument, you're the one who asked me to dredge up a 10 month old train of thought like it was brand spanking new. just keep that in mind.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 hahahaa. And don't yell at her for stating her opinion she did like you did. If you didn't want anyone replying to you then remove your comment otherwise you are going to get feedback. Obviously we need to help everyone not just females, fucking idiot.
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@MissHannahJanel i don't mind feedback, and i don't mind opinions. what i mind is people who are unable to comprehend the words in front of their face, and who are unable to read something without projecting ideas that aren't there.
so if you're going to strawman me all day, save us both the trouble and shut the fuck up.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 and I'm not interested in having this discussion if your basing it off of what you hear on the news or read because that's stupidity. Statistics aren't accurate. People abuse because they are pedophiles which doesn't come with an age or gender, alone with victims. My points been made so I'm done.
ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl here's a clue: some statistics are accurate, and some are not. the census, for example, is pretty friggin' reliable. the stat about 1 in 6 women being sexually assaulted is pretty universally agreed upon to be on the *low* end. the actual number could be much, much higher, to the tune of 20-25%.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 ok? So is the male statistic. Why are you dragging this out? I don't care about facts. Just people getting help who need it. That's not going to change.
ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl "I don't care about facts."
you actually typed these words. think about that for a minute.
quick question: are you stephen colbert?
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 I told you I don't care about who and how many are abused just that they, regardless who they are get help and they lock the sickos up. Why are you arguing this so hard? What did you do time yoursef or something? Because what disgustign person even tries to argue certain types of people shouldn't get as much helpf or this? And I'm sorry but 1/4 of the felmale population has not been abused. You really are stupid if you keep read what I am saying to you. Because you don't even seem to be
ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@drone81 Really read this: People/humans who are abused need to get help. Period. Women are abused more than men. I KNOW THAT for the millionth time and I agree with that because it's true. But it does not take away the truth that men are also abused. It is less, yes. But that does not take away the value that they need help too. This isn't much of an arguement because you're trying to take more digs at me than actually talk about the topic. It just makes you look like a pretencious idiot.
ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl no, you listen carefully dipshit: you don't stop rape by treating victims. yes, all victims deserve help and compassion, but that doesn't stop rapes from happening. women are sexually assaulted much more often than men; ergo, the sexual assault of women is a bigger problem in america than the rape of men. as a result, more effort should be expended to stop the rape of women because it is a bigger problem.
if you cannot understand that, you are dumber than pile of cow shit.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 and you can't argue that some people should can help and others less.
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@ModBeatnikGirl what kind of idiot thinks people use accurate information on youtube?
oh. you.
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ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@drone81 Actually I am going to say sorry because I don't know you in real life, I can't judge you. It's immature and juvinile to go back and forth like this, and it's getting boring. I really do hope though you will stop harassing and hating on other people. Because these bullshit internet fights of calling people names and arguing who is right is just childish on both are parts. Peace.
ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl a bloo bloo bloo, poow wittle teeanger finawwy undewstands intewnet makes ppl dumb. fiwm at eweven.
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MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@drone81 stomping your feet an whining like a baby how immature another person is, when shes the one who ended the arguement like an adult maturely, does not make you sound mature or older but childish, juvenile, and pathetic.
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@MissHannahJanel lol, yeah, i'm whining. whatever you've got to tell yourself to get through the day, you jailbait emo douchesquirt.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 Now your stealing my comments LOL. I said "Whatever you need to say to make you feel better, hun." Please, get some originality. Emo? That's a subculture not an insult. Don't worry someday you should be able to think on your own <3
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@MissHannahJanel oh emo is definitely an insult. just because you don't realize it doesn't make it any less of a pathetic expression of bougie childishness.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 Emo is a subculture and style. If i call you preppy, or a skater, or street, or goth, or whatever, it's not an insult it's just a style lol. I'm sorry but I am very girly, and I'm not a dark person. Emo is irrelevant to me so it's hard to be insulted by something that I'm not, and wouldn't have a problem with if I was, it's a style not something I'm going to go cry over haha.
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@drone81 You can feel free to continue having this arguement with yourself though ;)
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl also i'm seriously laughing at how you came back to revise your comments four hours in a row while trying to rip someone for spending 'all day' on youtube or whatever. have fun with that whole pot/kettle conversation.
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ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
@ModBeatnikGirl "But that does NOT lessen what happens to men."
show me one time--one fucking time--where i said this. just fucking once, you stupid fucking git.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 YOU ARE THE DUMBEST FUCKING PERSON. SHE BLOCKED YOU, DUMBASS. SHE CAN'T ASEE YOUR COMMENTS EVERYONE IS AGREEING WITH YOU THAT WOMEN ARE A BIGGER PROBLEM YOU MOTHER FUCKING RETARD. WERE YOU KICKED OUT OF THE SPECIAL ED CLASS? WE ARE AGREEING WITH YOU, FUCKING DUMBASS WHITE TRASH. IT'S THE PART WHERE YOU WROTE "when 1 in 6 men are raped or sexually assaulted during their life, we can start worrying about that problem" BOTH ARE AN ISSUE YOU FUCKTARD. EVERYONE IS AN ISSUE. SEXIST CUNT.
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@MissHannahJanel "sexist cunt." that's a new one. do you call people "racist niggers" too?
but that's the line that's got you in such a tizzy? oh dear, you seem to be dumber than a sack of hammers.
see, the rape of men is simply not an epidemic social problem. it's just not. bigger fish to fry, more pressing matters, that sort of thing. maybe when you get out of high school you'll understand that when one problem is bigger than another, you should worry more about the bigger problem.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 I'm in college but nice try. Sexist and cunt have nothing to do with each other, so you might want to look up exactly what cunt means, dipshit. "Tizzy?" Yeah, definately some creepy perv stuff going on there. I AGREE YOU MOTHER FUCKING DUMBASS THAT WOMEN ARE A BIGGER ISSUE. There is no way that I can say that any more clearer. In my entire life I have never spoken to anyone who could not comprehend a single sentence. Goddamn, so fucking stupid it's truly unbelievable
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@MissHannahJanel 'cunt' is considered a misogynistic slur against women. go ask any women's studies professor.
a 'tizzy' is an old-fashioned word for a temper tantrum. nothing sexual or creepy about it.
look up the research in those databases they provide you at the college library. studies conducted since the mid-90s have shown no causal link between being abused and becoming an abuser. none whatsoever.
you really don't know what you're talking about.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 and yes congrats cunt is a slur like bitch and fuck and dick. Ask a womens studies prof?? LOL i didn;'t know they majored in swearing too. I don't need to your the one who had to look up the meaning, dumbass.But its nothing like saying "racist nig***" and your fucking horrible for even using n*****. Sexist and racist? Boy your a combo package. @SOG is right...your just a troll with nothing else to do, and I'm sorry but you REALLY need to look up abuse.
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@MissHannahJanel fuck isn't a slur since it doesn't single out one gender/ethnic/sexual/religious group.
you really need to get a dictionary.
and unless the links are double-blind peer reviewed surveys, don't bother because they're worthless.
drone81 1 year ago
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MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@MissHannahJanel yeah you didn't send anything, so you're pretty much a liar on every level.
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MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@MissHannahJanel thought you already said you blocked me. another lie. liar.
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MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@MissHannahJanel awww, poor wittle baby doesn't know how to use the intertubes.
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@drone81 people are saying they AGREE there are more women, but that doesn't mean men aren't a problem! Men don't report it as often as women. It's proven. They hide it more and research has been done the percentages are closer than you think. So actually do some fucking research on what you are saying. There are most likely more women but more women come forward then men. Also everyone needs to be treated after abuse because they ARE HUMAN. NOT BECAUSE THEY LACK A DICK. You are sexist.
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@drone81 HOW FUCKING STUPIF CAN YOU BE TO NOT KNOW THAT, THAT IS HOW THERAPY WORKS??? PEDOPHILES GET THERAPY AND MEDS TO STOP RAPING PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ABUSED GET COUNSELING NOT TO REPEAT THE OFFENSE. YOU ARE SO FUCKING DUMB YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW HOW ABUSE WORKS?????? IT'S A FUCKING CYCLE LIKE THAT PERSON SAID. DUMBASS. ENLIGTHEN US HOW WE STOP IT THEN OTHER THAN JAIL AND COUNSELING???????????????????
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@drone81 I mean one girl posted a comment just stating that men are as important as women, and you try to disagree with that? YES, we all understand your point: There are more women sexual abuse cases than men. But you know what? That does NOT make their value any more important. You can't "focus" on a certain area. You tackle the bigger problem of sexual abuse entirely and help who comes to you. If you can't comprehend, except, grasp, understand, or try to fight that. U truly are pathetic.
SpookyOokyGirl 1 year ago
@drone81 But your blocked, so I won't be receiving anymore of your lovely, ignorant, brain dead babble and repetative juvenile insults. You can continue to harass people online like the loser you are until you finally get some sort of self satisfaction out of it. Have a nice day (:
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@SpookyOokyGirl more help != leaving in the dark.
and a perfectly sane person can see that when one group is victimized at a rate five times more often than another, that the first group needs more help than the other. i am talking about groups here, as in a class of victims and crimes. i am not talking about individual victims. obviously all sexual abuse victims should receive an equal amount of help.
but you don't stop rape by treating victims.
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SpookyOokyGirl 1 year ago
@SpookyOokyGirl yeah sorry but experiencing prior sexual abuse has shown no causal relationship to future abuse, there is no such thing as a 'cycle of abuse' in this context, and it's a pretty horrible stereotype to believe in.
but the reason i'm still babbling about it is because that's the only thing i've been saying this whole goddamn time but you nitwits insist on turning that statement into something that it's not. if you agree with me, great, shut the fuck up and move on.
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SpookyOokyGirl 1 year ago
@drone81 But I am done with this because I don't waste my time with ignorant people. You know nothing abuse, sexual abuse criminals, or how it works. You sit on your lazyass all day harassing people online when you don't understand what your saying. You look pathetic, and are patheic and dumb screaming at people that they're "dogshit" when they're agreeing with you. Are you saying stuff just to troll and piss people off?
SpookyOokyGirl 1 year ago
@SpookyOokyGirl "Are you saying stuff just to troll and piss people off?"
you're a quick one, boy howdy.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 I don't know even need to respond anymore because @SpookyOokyGirl OWNED you. hahahahaha. Peace.
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@MissHannahJanel oh noes what ever shall i do.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 Because no one who is an abuser has ever had a happy home life. They have been abused in some way to become the way they are. They are either born with pedophilia, or have been physically, sexually, or emotional abused (such as bullying). I can't post links in the comments. But I will message you at least 5 links written by doctors. You are the most ignorant person no to know this
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@drone81 I can comperehend what the your saying fine. You are just a fucking dipshit. Many men don't talk about their abuse. The statistics are only recordings of abuse people hace stated. You're a fucking dumbass. I agree with the others. GET THE FUCK OFF YOUTUBE. You probably raped a guy yourself. Pedophile.
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@MissHannahJanel yup, many male sexual abuse cases go unreported. guess what? the same thing happens with female sexual abuse victims, and to an equal or higher degree.
and no, i don't think you know how to read very well.
drone81 1 year ago
@drone81 I agree with Modbeatnik girl. It's completely fucked up for you to think only women should get help. Obviously you don't know what you are talking about because you are so immature and ignorant about the situation. So you should just say fuck off to all the men who were abused? And how stupid can be to assume it's only prison and by preists boys get abused. Attempt to produce a few brain cells.
MissHannahJanel 1 year ago
@MissHannahJanel i said there should be a focus. i never said anything about telling male victims of sexual abuse to fuck off. nor did i say anything about such victims being limited to prisoners or altar boys; those were examples.
now kindly the fuck up, you stupid little shit.
drone81 1 year ago
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@drone81 and I'm not interested in having this discussion if your basing it off of what you hear on the news or read because that's stupidity. Statistics aren't accurate. People abuse because they are pedophiles which doesn't come with an age or gender, alone with victims. My points been made so I'm done.
ModBeatnikGirl 1 year ago
How could you get raped by a woman?? You would need to get aroused in the first place for the alleged rape to happen! And if you get aroused that means you were enjoying it! Men cannot be 'raped' by a woman, get it in your head!!
MrsCzechMate 2 years ago
Yes they can. The fact that you are arguing that they can't is absolutely awful.
Women can become physically aroused during rape. Does that mean they suddenly consent?
Thewlis 2 years ago
YOU are awful! How can someone give a consent while being raped??? What a nonsence! There should be no rape in the first place! The fact that you are trying to reason a rape only proves that you are a brainless idiot who should be locked up in a hospital for criminally insane. The way you think imposes a danger to society. Why don't you go and ask you mother whether she thinks she could arouse while being raped??
MrsCzechMate 2 years ago
It's a FACT that women can become physically aroused while being raped and that DOES NOT mean consent. It's a FACT that men can become physically aroused whilst not consenting. If anyone here is reasoning and justifying rape, IT'S YOU. MEN CAN BE RAPED. WOMEN CAN BE RAPED. YOU FUCKING DISGUSTING WASTE OF FLESH.
Get it into your thick skull, physical arousal does not mean consent, it's another horrifying and sad fact associated with SOME rapes. Go talk to a rape victim, you dumb cunt.
Thewlis 2 years ago
You initially wrote, I quote: "Women can become physically aroused during rape. Does that mean they suddenly consent? "
So is it me or you who is questioning the rape and consent? Certainly you, YOU DUMB CUNT!!! Where is the foundation to any of your claim? Submit evidence you idiot. Boys who think and talk like you should be destroyed.
MrsCzechMate 2 years ago
You wrote "And if you get aroused that means you were enjoying it!"
I wrote what I wrote to point out the horrible double standard you are perpetuating. You have confused arousal with consent.
The Rape Victims Advocacy Program states:
"Frequently, men who are sexually assaulted or raped have an involuntary or forced erection and/or ejaculation."
YOU ARE WRONG. YOU THINK THAT IF PEOPLE BECOME AROUSED THEY CONSENT.
Oh, and I'm a girl. Who was raped. YOU DUMB FUCKING CUNT.
Thewlis 2 years ago
Sexual Feelings During Sexual Abuse
by Kali Munro, M.Ed., Psychotherapist, 2004
Many sexual abuse survivors have trouble dealing with the fact that their body was sexually stimulated and felt aroused during the abuse. They may feel guilty and ashamed that they responded to the stimulation, and confused about why they did.
Thewlis 2 years ago
Three women abduct, rape man in Karachi
AGENCIES, Feb 3, 2009, 01.30am IST
Karachi police have registered a case against three unidentified women who allegedly abducted a man and raped him over four consecutive days, and later throwing him near Qayyumabad River in an unconscious state.
Thewlis 2 years ago
Journal of Clinical Forensic Medicine, Volume 11, Issue 2, Pages 82-88
"Examines whether unsolicited or non-consensual sexual stimulation of either females or males can lead to unwanted sexual arousal or even to orgasm. The conclusion is that such scenarios can occur and that the induction of arousal and orgasm does not indicate that the subjects consented to the stimulation."
Thewlis 2 years ago
Would you like any more "evidence"? There's plenty out there.
Thewlis 2 years ago
hahaha, it is getting better and better...NOT! You are most certainly NOT a girl and you most certainly were not raped. You are also most certainly mentally ill, watch you language, you primitive!
MrsCzechMate 2 years ago
I am a girl. I had a male 'friend' forcibly perform oral sex on me. How dare you question that.
You just keep proving yourself to be a morally devoid bitch. How dare you even call yourself a woman, you're betraying your own gender. Words cannot express my disgust.
Thewlis 2 years ago
You seem to be very confused. Calm down and read through your and mine emails very carefully and tell me what is it I am saying is betraying my own gender? All I said was, that there should be no rape and that I am horrified at rapistst. After that you asked me the rather academic question, I quote: ....Does that mean they suddenly consent? " And I wonder, how can YOU call yourself a woman with such a 'filthy' mouth calling me names like cunt & bitch etc.??? Be disghusted at yourself you psycho!
MrsCzechMate 2 years ago
you are raping me with your comments, I feel violated and think you should turn yourself in to the police
sheepcidus 2 years ago
No one is forcing you to read my comments and no one is interested in your response to my comments either. If you steel feel being raped and violated you must be paranoid. I suggest you turn yourself into a psychiatric hospital.
MrsCzechMate 2 years ago
I am your senior by more than 10 years and I could write a book about men & their inappropriate behaviour towards me! So even if I believed you are who you claim to be, it would still leave me unimpressed and it certainly would not justify your language and accusations.
MrsCzechMate 2 years ago
Look, you said men couldn't be raped because they'd have to get aroused. I pointed out that women can SOMETIMES get aroused during rape, and arousal does not mean consent. You continued to argue, god knows why, accusing me of supporting rape when I do nothing of the sort. I got angry, because you believe that only men can perpetrate rape, which is SEXIST AND UNTRUE. Oh, and you quite happily called me a cunt, so you're also a fucking hypocrite.
And I'm not looking to impress you, okay?
Thewlis 2 years ago
It's also nice how you ask for evidence, and then completely ignore it when I shove it in your face.
Thewlis 2 years ago
Probably unlike you, I have a demanding full time job and very busy social life too, so I could not be asked to read through any evidence submitted by some rude hysterical person.
MrsCzechMate 2 years ago
You called me cunt first, to be exact: DUMB FUCKING CUNT
anyway, it is all getting childisch, I certainly do not wish to have any convesation with anyone like you.
MrsCzechMate 2 years ago
Yeah, that's what I thought. You've got NOTHING left, you know you're wrong and you can't admit to it, so instead it's "well, I'm busy and cool unlike you, heh" and "well, you're rude and dumb so I'm not talking to you any more".
You're wrong. You can't debate for shit. I just hope you come away from this realising that rape isn't the exclusive domain of women, and that men can be victimised too. Which was what I said in the first place.
Thewlis 2 years ago
No, you keep changing your opinions, your points and evidence are inconsistent and in general to me you are a rude person of no consequence so no point talking to you at all. I still do not agree with anything you wrote but do not wish to waste any more time with you.
MrsCzechMate 2 years ago
My opinions, points and evidence are not inconsistent, they all say the same thing; people can become aroused during rape, and men can be raped by women. If you really can't understand and agree with that, there's something wrong with you.
Thewlis 2 years ago 2
The tune and words just get stuck in your head. One of the best songs they've done. Liked Last Dance too.
requiemDASH 2 years ago
not thier best album compared to lust lust lust and pretty in black but still good.
zibeddy 2 years ago
the new raveonettes is incredible... and this song is great to. fucking wannabe critic fucking idiots. the point is - no abuse towards women is okay. if anyone thinks that then i fuckign rebuke thee fucking vile internet troll
destroyourselves 2 years ago
@destroyourselves settle down big guy.i dont give a shit about the lyrics. music isnt about lyrics. i just like the melody. look at the mars volta. their lyrics mean absolutely nothing but theyre one of the more successful credible bands out there.
hamburgler124 2 years ago
sorry, i misunderstood.
destroyourselves 2 years ago
Yeah the melody is awesome, first fifty seconds of playing one guitar string repeated over and over.
Also, lyrics are intrinsic part of music. Or are you trying to tell me "God Save the Queen" would be the same if it was called "Dun ding dee dum" and was just the melody?
michalgreenalien 2 years ago
its called vocal melody dipshit and wed all be better off if the sex pistols never were so that basically shuts your argument down
hamburgler124 2 years ago
Sex Pistols created "God Save the Queen" ? Christ, someone give this kid an education.
michalgreenalien 2 years ago
sorry do you mean the anthem?..
hamburgler124 2 years ago
i dont understand why half the people here are complaining.. this song is the shit.
hamburgler124 2 years ago
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destroyourselves 2 years ago
First it's the rapists, and who will be next? Jews?
michalgreenalien 2 years ago
YOU should be next for posting such an idiotic comment! Honestly!
MrsCzechMate 2 years ago
Hey hey, calm down, it was all in jest. :)
I endorse your username, by the way.
michalgreenalien 2 years ago
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i like how blunt the song and video is. no stupid metaphors, just straight to the point.
yes rape is obviously bad but it's one of those things that when you actually stop and think about it, all this uncontrollable hate starts to rise where you just want to punch someone in the face or throw up. having the strength to overcome something as unforgivable as rape amazes me.
blue489 2 years ago