He is honest enough to finish with "Just a trick", but he got those poor sad 'psychics' to think that they really had done it. Even more sadly, unless he explains the trick (and emphasises it) a little more carefully he may be leading people into thinking that maybe there is something to it. No harm in it? Maybe, but indirectly it could help the preachers, the purveyors of the paranormal, and other such charlatans to line their pockets on peoples credulity.
@tarrizzzzzzzzz nop, just makes you not think of how he might have done it. there's a 4th option, make an illusion that he predicted the numbers while not actually doing it. which we all know is what he did ;) the trick and "prediction" was done live right as the balls was revealed on the lottery. how? have no idea, but maybe a static overlay on the left side hiding a guy changing the ball rack.
I don't understand, how can it not count just because the event didn't take place inside the United States? A lottery draw is a lottery draw no matter where it is done!
Mhm... There would be no way to distinguish which week this works on.... When he got them all right, if he had done it 5 weeks later he would have gotten the same numbers?? But they would have been wrong... The balls had the numbers put on them afterwards somehow.. Maybe filling ink.. Electronic displays... Maybe even video effects..
You're a moron if you actually believe that this is real. Unfortunately most people in the western world believes that god exists so what does that tell you about their gullibility.
This is a TV show people, wake up. All these people are actors and nobody can fly, walk through walls, or make the statue of liberty disappear.
@excthour Most people in the "west", a term referred to North America, there isn't a "Western world', believe the word "God" isn't some man living in a fantasy place called Heaven, has a long white beard and watches everything we do. No. Most of us, not being an ignorant dumb shit like yourself, actually took the time to research the origins of all religions and came to a spiritual conclusion your feeble mind can only begin to comprehend. In other words, a gerbil knows more than you
To everyone who is saying that it's just bullshit, and he didn't really predict the numbers: He IS an ILLUSIONIST. It is just an illusion, a trick, bullshit, not what it appears to be. But Great Job on knowing that magic isn't real, you guys must be the elite intellectuals of our age.
actually this is not a trick. I tracked my own lottery which was a 5 ball no megaball lottery for 6 months til I found the mathmatical sequence. I did it 3 times in a row to be sure, then the 4th time I played it and won. basically it's like this. lottery is not random, it's a computer computation and therefore has it's own equation. This is so the same numbers do not come out day after day. I dare you to track your lottery and see what you find.
When you have people guess random numbers, they tend to be uniformly distributed. Which would mean an average of 25.5 for guesses between 1 and 50. If you have anywhere between 2 and 4 plants in the audience that is enough to skew the average to pretty much whatever you want.
also, them people been working on it with him, so I'm sure them people know how it was done... since random numbers were picked and they had to guess them. But who knows with Derren, since he can play good mind tricks in that department too
only thing is, when is the last tim ethe balls get checked? how did he switch the balls and get to the studio in time? How far away was this building from the lottery place? lets figure this out first and take it from there.
Why didnt he show all 7 balls? I think that tells us it doesnt have anything to do with the balls and Option #3 may be correct. Think about that. If it was something to do with the balls, he would of had the 7th ball in play as well.
THEIR HE CONFESSED HE FIXED IT,ok so he said he didn't do it,HE STILL TOLD US HOW HE DID IT AND SHOWED US THE BALLS HE USED!!! FFFFAAAAAKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
How about slightly delaying the television broadcast, so the people see what's happening right after Derren gets told what the numbers are through a tiny earpiece. Or something.
He never said he actually predicted the lottery. The whole point of his doing any of it in the first place was getting people to believe that he somehow did.
Never believe a magician when he gives an "explanation" for his trick, ESPECIALLY in the context of a show. The supposed "explanation" will invariably be just another trick, unless of course it isn't (in which case the "trick" may be to make you believe the explanation is a lie). One thing we know--any explanation that contradicts the known laws of science cannot be true, so his "wisdom of crowds" explanation can immediately be tossed out as bullshit.
@TheMathGuy Any explanation that contradicts the known laws of science cannot be true? Then there are a whole bunch of "known laws of science" that cannot be true. Energy cannot be quantized because it was a "known law of science" that it is continuous; Energy and matter cannot be interchangable because it was a "known law of science" that they are distinct.
Most "known laws of science" are discovered BECAUSE of events that contradict certain "known laws of science".
@SittingOnEdgeman Bravo. Once upon a time it was a known law of science that time was absolute, and that the sun went around the earth which was flat, and at the center of the universe.
'Laws' of science change all the time as new information is discovered.
I think it's funny that people are complaining that a magician actually did a trick instead of really doing what he claimed to do. I think you are on to something there!
I worked for Derren on that trick ... and it's a trick for sure ... I made those "special" lottery balls to inject black color (just like a printer) from inside so with just 6 remote controls they colored the winning numbers ...
@RAZcracK yeah i'm sure you were there. they definitely wouldn't have made you sign a confidentiality agreement. good for you though. live in you fantasy its probably better than your actual life.
@coolcatbrad1 of course they did, but they can't find me by my youtube nickname ... can they ? mmmm now i'm worried ... plz don't tell them i said that ... plz plz...
Ohh and about my fantasy it's huge dude but you should get a life...
Everybody saw that crap, the point is camera trick, half plan, but he told everbody something else, this people want like dummies, but they believe him
What these guys are doing is legit. It is an application of the law of large numbers and xperiments have been conducted that the avergae estimation of a large sampling is incredibly near from the truth (see Infotopia : How many minds create knowledge by Cass Sunstein).
BUT, what Derren did is something else altogether, it was definitely a camera trick
I truly believe lottery is predictable somehow. but put that aside and let's just assume all he said is true. so let's gather 240 guesses from the internet, 10x more than what's supposed needed, on how he did the trick by numbering the options from 1 to 3. so, just 1 in 3 chances, rather than 140 million. none of those peeps are looking for gold. now do the math and you get yourself a paradox: that's right, people guessed it was a camera trick, thus making this very argument invalid.
logically and mathematically, there is NO WAY you can predict the lottery without knowing (and I cant stress how) PRECISELY the properties - weight, air resistance, bounciness, etc of each and every ball, the speed of the release mechanism, the distance each ball falls, the speed of the mixer arms, the time between release and draw (which if you watch is always random) to name just the basic variables at work here.
what other method could be used to predict such an event of chance?
simply put, the brain is capable to do all that maths as long as you don't put it on numbers. think of how hard it is to build a robot capable of walking in 2 feet. but there are way more variables and it is way harder to figure them out to us. maybe because we still couldn't identify them.
you have to know the exact positions of the balls, the exact force at which the balls are blown around and all the forces acting on them, you have to know when the guy will hit the button to retrieve the ball (does he hit a button? idk)
i cna' tthink of anything else atm.. forces of the balls and time the balls with come out....and the position of every ball.... then you could predict the lottery o.O
that's basically what gavsmith1980 already said, TragedyZ. you probably would have to consider physical elements we don't know of yet, and have no names for it. but we deal with such elements every day already, and not knowing about them doesn't prevent miracles from happening. I think a miracle is unpredictable precisely due to that.
I believe physical elements have everything to do with It. Although you would think that If every other ball draw the balls were placed randomly from the start different numbers would come out every week. Yet If you put the same numbers In the same position every week and they fall into the wheel at the same speed every time followed with the same forces applied while the balls are spinning you would gather that every single time the balls would turn out the same. This Is not so, how so?
@LJStorm Because of a beautiful thing in mathematics called chaotic dynamical systems. A physical system is chaotic when it exhibits an extreme dependence on initial conditions. In the case of lottery balls those conditions could be everything from minor differences in the air temperature or the rotation of the ball, to nano seconds difference in release time. Any one of which would completely alter the outcome.
If you did not use a camera trick, which most people say you are, I would like to see the unedited feed of both cameras present at the event. Specifically the one behind the main camera to show that you did not have an assistant place the balls there moments before you turned them around.
I feel at least a little bit ripped off that your explanation show was another trick and more lies. If you used a camera trick, please tell us.
It jeapordises all your other explanations to your mind tricks.
Not only did he use a fucking camera trick that a 4 year old can do but he lied, he said he would admit how he did it. every single one of those methods is bullshit. he simply used a camera trick. hes a fucking cunt
how did they get an averade of 2 for one of the balls???? one of the winning numbers was 2.....impossible...all of their averages should have been in or around 26 for each ball...
That's right. THe focus of the show is the gullibility of these people.
I bet they all think they're emotionally intelligent. I bet they think they're good people-people. But their emotional intelligence (mass hysteria) blinded them to the most basic schoolboy maths mistakes.
If you average out twenty guesses betweeen one and fifty, you're going to get numbers like
derren himself does not buy into 'psychic' stuff (which is the only explanation of how his group could have predicted the lottery numbers) and he offers no explanation how 'studying' past lottery numbers gives you any clue at all. its a great trick but it is obviously impossible to predict lottery numbers without having rigged it, and i doubt he would go to such lengths. i think the real 'trick' took place during the 7 min prediction and the stuff about group wisdom is a distraction.
yeah "deep maths" as an explanation, pure rubbish, there is no way of predicting lottery numbers if the system is non biased and truely random, you can have 24 monkeys in a room and it would amount to the same.
I think it was option 3 for ONE main reason, when he's explaining that someone would have switched the ball, he slipped up and said "SHE". It's odd that this theoretical person suddenly became a woman...
Of course to show the numbers before the lotto drop would have gotten him put in prison--not because the BBC has some kind of legal right to be the one to announce the lottery numbers first (nonsense), but because it would prove that he had rigged the lottery from the inside, a serious crime. Every magician has to be a "scam artist" of sorts, but at least a magician is being honest about the fact that he is deceiving you (if that makes sense).
He's a magaician he's damn job is to do tricks. Obviously he can't show them before the drop, since it's a damn trick. That doesn't make him a scam artist, that makes him a magician.
You know that they don't really saw peple in half, right???
@mmac22 your view is simple minded. in the whole scheme of the 'trick' he has already predicted the numbers and they are sitting there in camera. notice how I said trick. even he said it's a trick. at no point did he say that he was going to predict the numbers so you can win.
The mere fact that NO ONE believes this is how he did it kinda makes me think he did. Kinda like the money box experiments he does where people never pick the one he says the money is in because they think they're being lied to. Derren always explains his deceptions and although he's clearly omitted some thruths if that's what he said he done I believe him.
I've always been intrigued by Darren Brown and a few years ago I read a book which he wrote that explained his way of thinking to create the the illusions you see in his tricks today. Thinking back on that book, combined with the camera trick and this reveal. It's a combination of three commonly used to misdirect and create the illusion you see here. Clever, but also very deceitful..
i agree with rehayler, y does every1 keep on sayin things lke 'o yea its obvious ow it did it' bla bla bla, if u think its so obvious then y didnt any of u think 2 do it? lets face it rehaylers rite, uv all fallen 4 it so stop pretendin u know ow its all dun wen yano fuck all bout it. derren browns amazin, n ur all shit, deal wiv it =-D
amazing, I love it. 100 per cent nonsense of course, but a fantastic experiment in what you can make people believe. Old 'magic' is so outdated its wonderful to see something so fresh and exciting inflame peoples minds
The Lottery is rigged anyway. Always has been. Your only winning back your own money as well as everyone else. In order to win the lottery you have to beat the system rather than the odds.
Otherwise if Derren Brown methods works than everybody would win the lotto. And thats like splitting £2.7m 9000 times.
HAHA. I love how people take this so seriously. You've all fallen for his trick. If I were him, I'd be laughing my head off at people making immature comments about his talent. Good on you, Derren. Your continue to astound me with your illusions! :D
there is no way this is possible, if it was there would be many clever people out there winning the lottery every week. derren quite obviously used split screen to do what he did when he predicted it. how dumb does he thunk we are - stop insulting your audience!
what a load..how can human predictions effect the physics of the lottery balls and the lottery machines. All human prediction in lottery is just luck..
just a camera trick just in case your all getting a bit too into this. the left half of the screen is not live until the fake balls are in place (you can see the move). great illusionist though i dont have to believe it to be a fan.
...If you read the last part of his book (Tricks of the Mind), he talks exactly about this sort of rubbish thinking - bad science, people failing to really understand statistics and probability, etc. He's completely against such bunkum, yet, here he is saying it. I think he's done it half for his own amusement, and half for the profits he no doubt made!
I think he's basically having a laugh at the general public! He knows exactly how ridiculous his "explanation" is, and I think by saying it, he's perhaps trying to get people to wake up and think for themselves for a moment. Obviously, there are plenty out there that genuinely believed his explanation!...
why are people getting there knickers in a knot over him, hes an ILLUSIONIST so obv nothing is real...but some of the stuff he does with the mind control is beyond amazing...respect where its due
The funny thing is that Derren asks the guy to do it in the calculator but i guarantee you that he can do that and much harder calculations in his head instantly. Even has the ability to do this and more but our beliefs that we can't prevent us from being able to. You can hack into your beliefs with hypnosis.
OK lets just drop by ever illusion video ever on you tube and just say "camera trick". Come on just because its the best you can come up with doesn't mean you have to settle with that.
Why is everyone slating him so much hasn't illusions always been about dieing to know the answer and then when or if you do the magics gone. Its an illusion chill out.
if he could really predict the lottery then he would do it for real. Oh did I say someone say he's "noble"?! Its a trick - like he said. No live audience, no prediction b4 the announcement. My opinion was the whole stage (or at least most of it) was fake.
Do me a favour - will you check my last upload - let me know what the quality is like - forget the colour cause I know its dark - I was playing about with film effects in AAE.
He's obviously not gonna do a 1 hour special entirely dedicated on post-production special effects. He's an illusionist...If he can make you believe the bogus yet interesting explanation he's giving his viewers. Then his job is done.
He's fucking with his viewers including the people he selected to participate in this experiment. (unless , they're all his accomplices)... But if you truely want to see a mathematically possible prediction , i suggest you to watch derren's "the system".
great job the delusionist
simplerachel11 2 weeks ago
Trick like any other trick!
leslie664 1 month ago
He is honest enough to finish with "Just a trick", but he got those poor sad 'psychics' to think that they really had done it. Even more sadly, unless he explains the trick (and emphasises it) a little more carefully he may be leading people into thinking that maybe there is something to it. No harm in it? Maybe, but indirectly it could help the preachers, the purveyors of the paranormal, and other such charlatans to line their pockets on peoples credulity.
kelco93 1 month ago
Did he really swap the balls? :O
tarrizzzzzzzzz 2 months ago
@tarrizzzzzzzzz nop, just makes you not think of how he might have done it. there's a 4th option, make an illusion that he predicted the numbers while not actually doing it. which we all know is what he did ;) the trick and "prediction" was done live right as the balls was revealed on the lottery. how? have no idea, but maybe a static overlay on the left side hiding a guy changing the ball rack.
Devoti 1 week ago
balls had a display that could change?
hmm
teokiatuan2 2 months ago
anybody know how his CHART works?,,,I'll give it a shot, I spend hours choosing my nubers anyway
DZ45732 3 months ago
Darren's claims of prediction, is a fraud since nobody got to see what he predicted , it is invalid
DZ45732 3 months ago
Darren's claims of prediction, is a fraud since nobody got to see what he predicted , it is invalid
DZ45732 3 months ago
Yes they were predicting lottery numbers. But they were not predicting a televised
lottery drawing on any of the news channels here in the states. So it doesnt count.
TheDegree777 4 months ago
@TheDegree777
I don't understand, how can it not count just because the event didn't take place inside the United States? A lottery draw is a lottery draw no matter where it is done!
stephepaul 1 month ago
@TheDegree777 right... everyone knows the US is the epicenter of unquestionable validity and truth.
FadoDeo4444 2 weeks ago
Mhm... There would be no way to distinguish which week this works on.... When he got them all right, if he had done it 5 weeks later he would have gotten the same numbers?? But they would have been wrong... The balls had the numbers put on them afterwards somehow.. Maybe filling ink.. Electronic displays... Maybe even video effects..
orangegold1 5 months ago
You're a moron if you actually believe that this is real. Unfortunately most people in the western world believes that god exists so what does that tell you about their gullibility.
This is a TV show people, wake up. All these people are actors and nobody can fly, walk through walls, or make the statue of liberty disappear.
excthour 6 months ago
@excthour Most people in the "west", a term referred to North America, there isn't a "Western world', believe the word "God" isn't some man living in a fantasy place called Heaven, has a long white beard and watches everything we do. No. Most of us, not being an ignorant dumb shit like yourself, actually took the time to research the origins of all religions and came to a spiritual conclusion your feeble mind can only begin to comprehend. In other words, a gerbil knows more than you
jowiefjiwejf 3 months ago
To everyone who is saying that it's just bullshit, and he didn't really predict the numbers: He IS an ILLUSIONIST. It is just an illusion, a trick, bullshit, not what it appears to be. But Great Job on knowing that magic isn't real, you guys must be the elite intellectuals of our age.
numbersCH31vs17 6 months ago 25
@numbersCH31vs17 hopefully they mean that the explanation is bullshit. as everyone should know it's just a clever trick.
Devoti 1 week ago
he put the prediction in that white tube , how come he cant show us that when he was on live, fuckin bullshit!
YoBraithwaite 7 months ago
actually this is not a trick. I tracked my own lottery which was a 5 ball no megaball lottery for 6 months til I found the mathmatical sequence. I did it 3 times in a row to be sure, then the 4th time I played it and won. basically it's like this. lottery is not random, it's a computer computation and therefore has it's own equation. This is so the same numbers do not come out day after day. I dare you to track your lottery and see what you find.
OroraMonroe 8 months ago
When you have people guess random numbers, they tend to be uniformly distributed. Which would mean an average of 25.5 for guesses between 1 and 50. If you have anywhere between 2 and 4 plants in the audience that is enough to skew the average to pretty much whatever you want.
simpsonsean2003 8 months ago
If he really predicted numbers, he could showed them in front of those people, and not alone in studio.
baznian 11 months ago
Hey Derren , how comes you didn't buy a ticket with those numbers on?
TheLkvoice 1 year ago
Law of attraction 104 million dollar powerball belongs to me
TheRemedy2012 1 year ago
this whole calculating thing is bullshit, it's just a trick
csplendrig 1 year ago
also, them people been working on it with him, so I'm sure them people know how it was done... since random numbers were picked and they had to guess them. But who knows with Derren, since he can play good mind tricks in that department too
BillMan2002 1 year ago
only thing is, when is the last tim ethe balls get checked? how did he switch the balls and get to the studio in time? How far away was this building from the lottery place? lets figure this out first and take it from there.
BillMan2002 1 year ago
Why didnt he show all 7 balls? I think that tells us it doesnt have anything to do with the balls and Option #3 may be correct. Think about that. If it was something to do with the balls, he would of had the 7th ball in play as well.
BillMan2002 1 year ago
THEIR HE CONFESSED HE FIXED IT,ok so he said he didn't do it,HE STILL TOLD US HOW HE DID IT AND SHOWED US THE BALLS HE USED!!! FFFFAAAAAKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
ydoihaveaname 1 year ago
How about slightly delaying the television broadcast, so the people see what's happening right after Derren gets told what the numbers are through a tiny earpiece. Or something.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago
Derren Brown could convince even the dumbest person that he is a genius.
terminaldeity 1 year ago
@terminaldeity, lol.. please rethink your statement.
CaliGrowFi 1 year ago
@CaliGrowFi
Hah! Let me rephrase that...
He could make even the dumbest person think that they are a genius.
terminaldeity 1 year ago
can't believe it? Google operation stargate.
azvideoguy 1 year ago
He never said he actually predicted the lottery. The whole point of his doing any of it in the first place was getting people to believe that he somehow did.
BraydonSzafranski 1 year ago
@BraydonSzafranski It's preying on human behavior in order to achieve the desired result, if that makes any sense.
BraydonSzafranski 1 year ago
Never believe a magician when he gives an "explanation" for his trick, ESPECIALLY in the context of a show. The supposed "explanation" will invariably be just another trick, unless of course it isn't (in which case the "trick" may be to make you believe the explanation is a lie). One thing we know--any explanation that contradicts the known laws of science cannot be true, so his "wisdom of crowds" explanation can immediately be tossed out as bullshit.
TheMathGuy 1 year ago
@TheMathGuy Any explanation that contradicts the known laws of science cannot be true? Then there are a whole bunch of "known laws of science" that cannot be true. Energy cannot be quantized because it was a "known law of science" that it is continuous; Energy and matter cannot be interchangable because it was a "known law of science" that they are distinct.
Most "known laws of science" are discovered BECAUSE of events that contradict certain "known laws of science".
SittingOnEdgeman 1 year ago 2
@SittingOnEdgeman Bravo. Once upon a time it was a known law of science that time was absolute, and that the sun went around the earth which was flat, and at the center of the universe.
'Laws' of science change all the time as new information is discovered.
lostn65 1 year ago
I think it's funny that people are complaining that a magician actually did a trick instead of really doing what he claimed to do. I think you are on to something there!
Thatwasnotme 1 year ago
Don't waste your time on finding the trick ....
I worked for Derren on that trick ... and it's a trick for sure ... I made those "special" lottery balls to inject black color (just like a printer) from inside so with just 6 remote controls they colored the winning numbers ...
RAZcracK 1 year ago
@RAZcracK yeah i'm sure you were there. they definitely wouldn't have made you sign a confidentiality agreement. good for you though. live in you fantasy its probably better than your actual life.
coolcatbrad1 1 year ago
@coolcatbrad1 of course they did, but they can't find me by my youtube nickname ... can they ? mmmm now i'm worried ... plz don't tell them i said that ... plz plz...
Ohh and about my fantasy it's huge dude but you should get a life...
RAZcracK 1 year ago
@RAZcracK your fantasy is a huge dude? good for you man. i love it when people are open about their sexuality
coolcatbrad1 1 year ago
@coolcatbrad1 Hehehehe sure ... Whatever ... What are you ??? Gay hunter or something ... hehe
RAZcracK 1 year ago
@RAZcracK yes
coolcatbrad1 1 year ago
@coolcatbrad1 good haunting then...
RAZcracK 1 year ago
Everybody saw that crap, the point is camera trick, half plan, but he told everbody something else, this people want like dummies, but they believe him
7vajda 1 year ago
What these guys are doing is legit. It is an application of the law of large numbers and xperiments have been conducted that the avergae estimation of a large sampling is incredibly near from the truth (see Infotopia : How many minds create knowledge by Cass Sunstein).
BUT, what Derren did is something else altogether, it was definitely a camera trick
LorentJovet 1 year ago
All bull shit, is was just a camera trick
Madice86 2 years ago 2
and STILL people fault derren for this trick, which he FREELY ADMITS is just a trick...
its not bullshit, its not fake, it's meerly an illusion.
he doesnt expect you to genuinely believe he can do these things!
(although the group in the vid do, he only uses there being fooled to subsequently fool YOU...)
gavsmith1980 2 years ago 2
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gavsmith1980 2 years ago
I truly believe lottery is predictable somehow. but put that aside and let's just assume all he said is true. so let's gather 240 guesses from the internet, 10x more than what's supposed needed, on how he did the trick by numbering the options from 1 to 3. so, just 1 in 3 chances, rather than 140 million. none of those peeps are looking for gold. now do the math and you get yourself a paradox: that's right, people guessed it was a camera trick, thus making this very argument invalid.
cauerego 2 years ago
the lottery IS predictable, you just have to buy every permutation there is.
hope you have almost 14 million quid.
why is just one of those 14 million permutations more or less likely to occur on any given day than any other combination?
gavsmith1980 2 years ago
logically and mathematically, there is NO WAY you can predict the lottery without knowing (and I cant stress how) PRECISELY the properties - weight, air resistance, bounciness, etc of each and every ball, the speed of the release mechanism, the distance each ball falls, the speed of the mixer arms, the time between release and draw (which if you watch is always random) to name just the basic variables at work here.
what other method could be used to predict such an event of chance?
gavsmith1980 2 years ago
simply put, the brain is capable to do all that maths as long as you don't put it on numbers. think of how hard it is to build a robot capable of walking in 2 feet. but there are way more variables and it is way harder to figure them out to us. maybe because we still couldn't identify them.
cauerego 2 years ago
@cauerego
the lottery is predictable...
you have to know the exact positions of the balls, the exact force at which the balls are blown around and all the forces acting on them, you have to know when the guy will hit the button to retrieve the ball (does he hit a button? idk)
i cna' tthink of anything else atm.. forces of the balls and time the balls with come out....and the position of every ball.... then you could predict the lottery o.O
4 weeks of calculations with dodgy information!
TragedyZ 2 years ago
that's basically what gavsmith1980 already said, TragedyZ. you probably would have to consider physical elements we don't know of yet, and have no names for it. but we deal with such elements every day already, and not knowing about them doesn't prevent miracles from happening. I think a miracle is unpredictable precisely due to that.
cauerego 2 years ago
I believe physical elements have everything to do with It. Although you would think that If every other ball draw the balls were placed randomly from the start different numbers would come out every week. Yet If you put the same numbers In the same position every week and they fall into the wheel at the same speed every time followed with the same forces applied while the balls are spinning you would gather that every single time the balls would turn out the same. This Is not so, how so?
LJStorm 1 year ago
If they did put the balls In random positions then they're Just party pooopers lol
LJStorm 1 year ago
@LJStorm Because of a beautiful thing in mathematics called chaotic dynamical systems. A physical system is chaotic when it exhibits an extreme dependence on initial conditions. In the case of lottery balls those conditions could be everything from minor differences in the air temperature or the rotation of the ball, to nano seconds difference in release time. Any one of which would completely alter the outcome.
simpsonsean2003 8 months ago
it indeed was a trick.
Eddyble 2 years ago
I Love Darren Brown Hes Soo Funny And Nice.
Yeah Maybe Hes Faking Btt Yhoo Dntt Hav Too Be Gay Bowt It
MrsJessieMonster 2 years ago
My point is, what is on that camera would show what really happened. It would clear up all arguments.
adamp237 2 years ago
If you did not use a camera trick, which most people say you are, I would like to see the unedited feed of both cameras present at the event. Specifically the one behind the main camera to show that you did not have an assistant place the balls there moments before you turned them around.
I feel at least a little bit ripped off that your explanation show was another trick and more lies. If you used a camera trick, please tell us.
It jeapordises all your other explanations to your mind tricks.
adamp237 2 years ago 3
yeh because hes gna show u those just cuz u asked him 2 lmao idiot
meatyspudpies 2 years ago
he was too stupid to make this show,he just destroy his career !
vincent1580 2 years ago
This is bull.
jleack 2 years ago 13
Not only did he use a fucking camera trick that a 4 year old can do but he lied, he said he would admit how he did it. every single one of those methods is bullshit. he simply used a camera trick. hes a fucking cunt
DarrenSanch 2 years ago
Prove it. Beyond a reasonable doubt.
illusionistdave 2 years ago
I suppose the funny bit is the fact that those who are the butt of the joke think they are in on it, when in fact they are the butt of it.
Plus ca change
Crapulency 2 years ago 2
how did they get an averade of 2 for one of the balls???? one of the winning numbers was 2.....impossible...all of their averages should have been in or around 26 for each ball...
conbaz106 2 years ago 3
That's right. THe focus of the show is the gullibility of these people.
I bet they all think they're emotionally intelligent. I bet they think they're good people-people. But their emotional intelligence (mass hysteria) blinded them to the most basic schoolboy maths mistakes.
If you average out twenty guesses betweeen one and fifty, you're going to get numbers like
25.455
18.48978
31.987
22.77777
one in a million zillion would yeild 2
etc
etc
Crapulency 2 years ago
They obviously rounded it up. As they would do for currency.
KasHCubeD 2 years ago
You're right, its' an experiment in misdirection, and a pretty good one at that.
RogueRotting360 2 years ago
this is exactly what i was thinking. mathematically laughable to think the averages of their numbers would yield results!
so derren where is the winning ticket huh, why won't you show us that you can legitimately claim one?
samraw22 2 years ago
Good point !
LorentJovet 1 year ago
absolutely fucking stupid
sketchifetcha 2 years ago
derren himself does not buy into 'psychic' stuff (which is the only explanation of how his group could have predicted the lottery numbers) and he offers no explanation how 'studying' past lottery numbers gives you any clue at all. its a great trick but it is obviously impossible to predict lottery numbers without having rigged it, and i doubt he would go to such lengths. i think the real 'trick' took place during the 7 min prediction and the stuff about group wisdom is a distraction.
bobzilla211 2 years ago
yeah "deep maths" as an explanation, pure rubbish, there is no way of predicting lottery numbers if the system is non biased and truely random, you can have 24 monkeys in a room and it would amount to the same.
JCaesar11 2 years ago
I think it was option 3 for ONE main reason, when he's explaining that someone would have switched the ball, he slipped up and said "SHE". It's odd that this theoretical person suddenly became a woman...
Wiccaone 2 years ago
...He's saying "which he" but he says it so fast the "-ch" connects to the "he." It's called British English.
SirTok3alot 2 years ago
"All of us believing we could do it was what made it happen" he explained it better than Derren did ;)
TonyF67 2 years ago
My view is simple:
Show the numbers before the lotto balls drop = Genius
Show them after = Scam Artist
mmac22 2 years ago 21
That's impossible because then everyone will run to get a ticket with that number. He says it in the video
OriPrior66 2 years ago
Of course its possible. Show the numbers 2 minutes before the draw. People cant buy a ticket then as the draw is closed.
mmac22 2 years ago
Of course to show the numbers before the lotto drop would have gotten him put in prison--not because the BBC has some kind of legal right to be the one to announce the lottery numbers first (nonsense), but because it would prove that he had rigged the lottery from the inside, a serious crime. Every magician has to be a "scam artist" of sorts, but at least a magician is being honest about the fact that he is deceiving you (if that makes sense).
TheMathGuy 1 year ago
@mmac22
He's a magaician he's damn job is to do tricks. Obviously he can't show them before the drop, since it's a damn trick. That doesn't make him a scam artist, that makes him a magician.
You know that they don't really saw peple in half, right???
jedfa987 1 year ago
@mmac22 he cant show the numbers before because its against the law.
lolvideowatch 7 months ago
@mmac22 your view is simple minded. in the whole scheme of the 'trick' he has already predicted the numbers and they are sitting there in camera. notice how I said trick. even he said it's a trick. at no point did he say that he was going to predict the numbers so you can win.
psmccallion 5 months ago
The mere fact that NO ONE believes this is how he did it kinda makes me think he did. Kinda like the money box experiments he does where people never pick the one he says the money is in because they think they're being lied to. Derren always explains his deceptions and although he's clearly omitted some thruths if that's what he said he done I believe him.
WhoIzShe 2 years ago
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I've always been intrigued by Darren Brown and a few years ago I read a book which he wrote that explained his way of thinking to create the the illusions you see in his tricks today. Thinking back on that book, combined with the camera trick and this reveal. It's a combination of three commonly used to misdirect and create the illusion you see here. Clever, but also very deceitful..
PyrotiX07 2 years ago
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PyrotiX07 2 years ago
its option 3 then
joe2grand 2 years ago
duh they just put the balls in while the camera was off them god damn how are people so stupid
ClTIZEN 2 years ago
bag of shite!!!!!
screwballscramble78 2 years ago
absolute heap of shite
cuntiebawz 2 years ago
i agree with rehayler, y does every1 keep on sayin things lke 'o yea its obvious ow it did it' bla bla bla, if u think its so obvious then y didnt any of u think 2 do it? lets face it rehaylers rite, uv all fallen 4 it so stop pretendin u know ow its all dun wen yano fuck all bout it. derren browns amazin, n ur all shit, deal wiv it =-D
lilmehehe 2 years ago
amazing, I love it. 100 per cent nonsense of course, but a fantastic experiment in what you can make people believe. Old 'magic' is so outdated its wonderful to see something so fresh and exciting inflame peoples minds
alexkidd3d 2 years ago 2
The Lottery is rigged anyway. Always has been. Your only winning back your own money as well as everyone else. In order to win the lottery you have to beat the system rather than the odds.
Otherwise if Derren Brown methods works than everybody would win the lotto. And thats like splitting £2.7m 9000 times.
Namcap01 2 years ago
its an illusion, a trick. he did make a fool of himself trying to get people to believe this though.
ItzEzaii 2 years ago
@ItzEzaii I would say it was _them_ he made a fool of!
TheMathGuy 1 year ago
the best way to win is: nobody move! shopkeeper? empty that lotto cash register into the sack to claim my prize
misterfishermaan 2 years ago
If he could do this, why doesnt he shut the fuck up and just play the lottery every week winning shit loads of money instead of going public
IIaLeXxII 2 years ago
it may not be real and is most likely a split screen thing but he is funny =^D
Rainbowbaby95 2 years ago
HAHA. I love how people take this so seriously. You've all fallen for his trick. If I were him, I'd be laughing my head off at people making immature comments about his talent. Good on you, Derren. Your continue to astound me with your illusions! :D
rehayler 2 years ago
rubbish= =!
thomaschingching 2 years ago
there is no way this is possible, if it was there would be many clever people out there winning the lottery every week. derren quite obviously used split screen to do what he did when he predicted it. how dumb does he thunk we are - stop insulting your audience!
daveyboyz 2 years ago
what a load..how can human predictions effect the physics of the lottery balls and the lottery machines. All human prediction in lottery is just luck..
TheTubeMaster01 2 years ago
What a load of fucking bullshit! This is more like Paul Daniels style "magic"
606Altair 2 years ago
just a camera trick just in case your all getting a bit too into this. the left half of the screen is not live until the fake balls are in place (you can see the move). great illusionist though i dont have to believe it to be a fan.
TheCoffeeandafag 2 years ago
Mathematician would have worked this out years ago so thats why i dont belive it.
arielatomhc 2 years ago 2
Hang on a minute.
So the AVERAGE guess from 24 people for the 1st ball - was 63?
The AVERAGE?
63??
When there are only 49 Lotto balls?
In other words, either approximately half of the 24 people 'guessed' numbers over 63, or, 1 or 2 people guessed something like 106.
Hmmmm.
MisterDogshit 2 years ago
If he really did have the numbers before hand he would have shown everybody what they were.
RationalConclusion 2 years ago
...If you read the last part of his book (Tricks of the Mind), he talks exactly about this sort of rubbish thinking - bad science, people failing to really understand statistics and probability, etc. He's completely against such bunkum, yet, here he is saying it. I think he's done it half for his own amusement, and half for the profits he no doubt made!
robtron2 2 years ago
I think he's basically having a laugh at the general public! He knows exactly how ridiculous his "explanation" is, and I think by saying it, he's perhaps trying to get people to wake up and think for themselves for a moment. Obviously, there are plenty out there that genuinely believed his explanation!...
robtron2 2 years ago 3
he fixed the lottery ha ha
hollywoodproduction 2 years ago
is it a hired audience? Surely not ALL of them are that gullible? Please? :(
lol
chuffmunky 2 years ago
It was a cheap dirty underhand camera trick that professional magicians and illusionists frown upon.
Everybody knows it now.
Lots of videos on Youtube proving it.
Derren has disappointed a lot of people who thought he was above that.
GravityBoy72 2 years ago
why are people getting there knickers in a knot over him, hes an ILLUSIONIST so obv nothing is real...but some of the stuff he does with the mind control is beyond amazing...respect where its due
rachxlovesxpcd 2 years ago 3
The funny thing is that Derren asks the guy to do it in the calculator but i guarantee you that he can do that and much harder calculations in his head instantly. Even has the ability to do this and more but our beliefs that we can't prevent us from being able to. You can hack into your beliefs with hypnosis.
jbnumba1 2 years ago
Let's all get 24 friends e guess numbers! now the one jackpot 90.000.000 will give 9 pounds to every winner.
dianemotti 2 years ago
I had enough of this crap.
dianemotti 2 years ago
OK lets just drop by ever illusion video ever on you tube and just say "camera trick". Come on just because its the best you can come up with doesn't mean you have to settle with that.
frazerll 2 years ago
Why is everyone slating him so much hasn't illusions always been about dieing to know the answer and then when or if you do the magics gone. Its an illusion chill out.
frazerll 2 years ago
oh god... so lame...
i will not watch DERREN BROWN anymore...
thechinaboy 2 years ago
So the explanation wasn't really an explanation.
split screen definitely.
Derren, I am disappoint.
But thanks for saying it was just a trick.
VHASE 2 years ago 2
if he could really predict the lottery then he would do it for real. Oh did I say someone say he's "noble"?! Its a trick - like he said. No live audience, no prediction b4 the announcement. My opinion was the whole stage (or at least most of it) was fake.
TheMrMongolia 2 years ago
well that was needlessly cryptic XD
DarkMavis6721 2 years ago
What a bunch of idiots these people are.
nv821 2 years ago
I wonder why if he had all those people helping, they were not allowed to be in the studio to witness this?
ookland81 2 years ago
LIES, I bet all these people go to the same school as derren where they teach black magic
King00000000000000 2 years ago
not sure bout the hole story behind this but if he could do it he would win the lottery and get rich ??
FTSxMaNiiXx 2 years ago
no, its all an illusion/trick.
ItzEzaii 2 years ago
Yea coz i'm sure he's pretty poor and could do with the money! lol
606Altair 2 years ago
spose
FTSxMaNiiXx 2 years ago
Do me a favour - will you check my last upload - let me know what the quality is like - forget the colour cause I know its dark - I was playing about with film effects in AAE.
METAL2804 2 years ago
will do =]
ItzEzaii 2 years ago
I don't buy it. A split screen was used.
"It was just a trick" ..indeed.
And what betrayed the secret of the production's trick was the last ball from the left.)
ImAstupidAsshole 2 years ago
What was the matter with the last ball from the left?
METAL2804 2 years ago 2
It suddenly popped up.
Also the camera didn't change it's position after Derren waved to the 2nd camera.
VHASE 2 years ago
Why is Derren Brown doing this? It's cringe worthy. Everyone already knows it was a split screen.
drongovids 2 years ago
He's obviously not gonna do a 1 hour special entirely dedicated on post-production special effects. He's an illusionist...If he can make you believe the bogus yet interesting explanation he's giving his viewers. Then his job is done.
He's fucking with his viewers including the people he selected to participate in this experiment. (unless , they're all his accomplices)... But if you truely want to see a mathematically possible prediction , i suggest you to watch derren's "the system".
ImAstupidAsshole 2 years ago