Dow2b: Vaul (Eldar) vs Beta-user(Space Marines)

[bassisku]

lol wtf the dow 1 looks good with 360p this looks shit

[FlamingGerkins]

that apothicary was having a bad day lol

[si2foo]

dawn of war i think at release and till they fixed the balance issues like 2 months down the line sucked ass

in multi beta it was awesome because no one had a build and now it is meh

[man0204]

guardian squads and grenades...use those grenades wisely and you own the battlefield.

[starhawks1]

spess merenes

[MrSandman1982too]

i lost intrest to dow2 after first updates. Game and it's tech combos got nerfd completly , and basicly all what worked at begining came useless, i think that game got more balanced butt allso it toke all sneaky tricks off from it. Shame, dow2 had all that potential what Dow's has+ some with new gfx and breakable cover.

[TemplarOfNight]

Oh man... you should have take it easy on your oponent :D.

[darthd95]

eldar are awesome

[Chrisrips123]

do you lose the levels on your character when you enter a different battle?

[XZezkus]

Bad points is that sm player didn't keep apothacary with his tacs, shouldn't of got flamer for them, that's wasted 500 req, should of got asm to kil guardians and support platform, and heal them, also, Vaul didn't get in cover which could kill him if he's in a ranged battle, the game is to stay in cover when in range.

[XZezkus]

Apothacary is the best commander is use - but he is best used with asm, and getting squads health up, he's not to be used to go on his own, best to go around with tac marines when you first get them, keep them the two together and destroy his power, while your scouts caps the other half of the map, works very well.

[higaradoom]

i love when vehicles smash the walls

[surrealmax3]

looks like its using an "intelligence" concept - u have the map but cant see units ..  your units learn how to more effectively kill - or, you learn by experience (rts/rpg)

capture / defend and upgrade effeciently.

Great commentary, I have never heard of the game even, but you explain it well!

[XZezkus]

My perf/perv is the red bottom one, does that mean that my computer isn't too good because i'm getting kicked alot from online games...i don't usualy lagg though, any ideas??

[sewagedweller]

Emperor Molests

great game , but im waiting for expansion which hopefully will add chaos , i dont care otherwise

and hOLLL @#$ you can see clowd shadows and so many other details , graphics is amazing

[iamjak3rs666]

sw33t,my game iznt that gud, mostly coz i hav a shit graphics card

[dumgum222]

On demo can you play online?

[christonabicycle]

Great commentaries, what are those blue standard icons that drop from above sometimes? Waypoints or somesuch?

[GridTec]

they are rally points from the stronghold, so when ur troops come out of the stronghold they automatically go to the blue standard.

[SeanDalyATeam]

likr yur commentarys very nice keep posting new ones

[nickywww]

when u go on mutyplayer beta do you get all of whe teams

[Xp710]

This looks really good. I hate to say it though but when will they add the Tau to the game/

[SpraxIAKS]

Bad player is bad.

[lucomus]

One thing that has slightly let me down with the eldar is that there are no Dire Avengers :( but oh well... eldar still rock :)

[CaptainPengu]

wah, but they're pure generalists. Other than serving as a buffed up version of Guardians, what other purpose could they'd serve?

I'd rather have Wraithguard.. or all those goodies. :D

[lucomus]

lol, im just sick of guardians in DOW games :P it's starting to annoy me, and that's exactly why because it's their proper warrior, not some homeland deffender, no offense to the guardians, they do a good job, and i agree with you on the wraithguard! definetly agree on that :D

[Khlae]

Definitely, guardians are used too often, and people lose interest in them quickly. However, they could finally put in some striking scorpions or swooping hawks, I am simply dying to try them out.

[lucomus]

I agree with you there, lol we need the full arsenal of the eldar! :P

[treetropred]

whats the "pro" dow 2 forums you mentioned in one of your vids

[shanehince]

i know enough to give him a stomping hahahahaha yeah boii

[matto483]

It sounds like they're taking some aspects from COH and WC3 and blending them to appeal to more casual players. As good as CoH was the lack of support for multiplayer balance was really what kept it from being very successful. I hope Relic will do better this time, but I won't hold my breath.

[SpraxIAKS]

Lack of Balance? Says who?

Relic do balance greatly. Enough that the casual better either learns..or gets owned. : )

[anstee1234]

Well, in other videos check out the one that shows a whole squad on "Banshee's" being owned by a normal space marine squad. not very balanced, another case i where the Eldar "Wraithlord" destroys the Tyranid Hive Tyrant like 3 times in one life, another imbalance. :)

[princeigor1122]

oh plz ive played throught the whole beta with space marines and i can say to u i got owned a lot of times by eldar they are not weak, and as for balance this is one of the most balanced games i played

[azorazan]

yes, if uve got a strategical counter for almost every situation it seems

[deathby1]

this vid is really cool. The way you micro managed your war[ spiders was pure pro. Your vids are really cool to watch and yet again your RTSC never ceases to amaze me. Keep up the work and vids

[mattmoran69er]

the game functions are taken from CoH, even the cover has yellow and green dots like it, plus the suppression

[qwertyman233]

im not sure about this but you can also reinforce by getting a wraith tank or by having a special ability but correct me if im wrong.

[XxMalarkixX]

Hey Vaul, they were talkin about

a matchmaker System 2 find the perfect opponnent for a game. Is it already implemented in the Beta?

Thanks for the vid btw

[smygdamp]

I would love to have a game with you, I'm sure you would kill me in no time but I really want to learn from the best. Great videos.

[jc172197]

Exarch is pronouced Ex-Ark

[Raykatana]

Is it still possible to download the beta?

[blazingyeeha]

u need alout of practice on games that need the best of micro to win unlike the original not saying it sucks its just the new dow is harder for ppl like u

[SUFsnake]

Thats me he just owned. lol!

I felt awful at how bad I did and now it's on youtube for everyone to see. :P

Good game tho, Cheers!

[VaulSC]

I dont post the name's of people I play unless I get their permission first, but seeing as you are ok with not being anonymous, thanks for the game

[SUFsnake]

Nah it's cool man lol.

It should my buddies a good laugh. :)

[patchhacker]

Dont complain about it too early you may eat your words its still a beta

[wychweapons]

Doesn't look at all like the tabletop.

How does a warlock stand up to a Hive Tyrant? The warlock would die before it got to strike.

Warp Spider Exaarch? How are they equal to a Farseer? Apothecaries aren't at all equivalent to space marine captains.

This game is such a distortion of the tabletop and the warhammer universe, it's ridiculous.

[Kamfrenchie]

Tell me how they could put different leaders without taking liberty with the fluff?

It's closer to TT but it's not the TT of course. Just consider that those are very experienced exarch and apothecary, and young farseer and FC if it annoys youso much.

[wychweapons]

I can think of many ways to do it, especially for SMs.

Chaplain, Librarian, Captain, and Techmarine all make sense.

The Apothecary just doesn't. The Apothecary is part of the above's retinues, for goodness sake.

Warlocks by the same token are the farseer's retinue.

How about the Autarch? An Autarch with a warp jump generator to replace the Warp Spider Exarch at least.

Maybe giving a pair of Warlocks as an HQ choice would have been an innovative idea.

[Dravenguild]

I think the reason they took it in that direction was because it doesn't make sense to try and justify throwing a senior librarian, probably the chapter's most essential lexicanist. an apothecary kind of makes sense as he takes on the medic duties and the apothercarium of a chapter is significantly larger than a librarian and his subordinates, meaning they are more expendable than himself.

[wychweapons]

No, because the apothecaries, while they do have some sort of position in the chapter, they are never the commanders. They are part of the command squads, and if the Captain or Librarian were to die, then the champion or vet searg would take command.

Apothecaries are part of the librarian's and any other leader's entourage. The librarian is roughly equal to a captain in rank, and will command if the captain is not.

[Dravenguild]

Still, I find it easier to justify an apothecary to assume command in such small scale battles, If I were a librarian I wouldn't waste my time on small engagements. Though if you consider it, the reason may be that in the run of things the captain has the retinue of the techmarine and apothecary, but I think it represents different aspects of a single command squad. Just like Warlocks are Farseer retinue. Tyranids and Orks, well thats a whole other story altogether.

[godfather9]

sweet all the good things about Company of Heroes.

[Chrismyass01]

you can also reinforce units from troop transport vehicles like the falcon like halftracks in company of heroes, this really is a perfect cross between dawn of war and company of heroes

[BlueBirdTS]

Great commentary. Keep in mind that DoWII is using the more tactical non-base building gameplay mechanics of Company of Heroes. I imagine that that is why you don't like the gameplay as much as more traditional RTS games like SC or DoW.

[jin761]

The game is more like the board game, sure, but what if you got like a certain ammount of game points every day and u used that to buy forces and if you win games you get more game points. Then when you start the game u only have a certain ammount of troops. I think that would be cool.

[Kamfrenchie]

i Think that would make the better guys (in the beginning) even more indefeatable.

[thematchpunk]

just so you know your exar has a mass teleport next to his single, i saw you run your entire army up north to kill the apoth.

sit still while the cloud forms then theyll all teleport at once (ive ran my units out while he was still forming the cloud and they didnt get teleported)

[SquidThingy]

It would be really embarrassing to be the SM player in this video. xD Nice video, keep em coming. :D

[ricefarmer]

stop using the same race! i love ur voice overs but i want u to play the other guys

[Sukkasanteri]

U FACKING AWESOME

[ernsm]

very nice vod! keep it up

[nathones]

haha eldar is op as usual?

[Misieq145]

DOW:Company of Heroes.

[timorekusa]

Is it me or does the game look ugly as sin?

COH and DOW look to me much better than this...

[dunkdude06]

They have made this almost exactly the same as company of heroes. personally I think this is a good thing as coh its way better than DOW they were givin you DOW free when u bought coh but this game looks real nice

[3l4lc4z4r]

two hints for you vaul

you cant use close combat against units in buildings

and use the retreatbutton (the yellow one with the explanation mark)that helps if your units are near to death or supressd

btw surkiencannons are imba, they are fireworriors³

[Wallenquist]

ahhhh, thats how you do it. Been playing the beta and me units can never get awy. duh.

[neverhoodyn]

dow 2 looks and plays alot like coh

[captianzwetwar]

indeed, but Coh is unbalanced

[Makrokosmos]

i can't help it, this jsut feels boring.

I kinda miss the whole gory fight between hordes feel.

[fludblud]

iyanden vs tyranids is something i would like to see ;)

[1337vena]

Yes you can reinforce near transport units on the field. Razorback, Falcon, Wartrukk

Please us that in upcommming videos, it owuld be helpfull and give people a better understanding of the gameplay.

[1337vena]

and try to make more use of cover, hopefully you will find more worthy oponents soon so you will see the need for good cover usage.

[koko9900]

I think you can reinforce, atleast when i played with orks i was reinforcing when i had a wartruck on the field. So if you i guess get a falcon(i think it was) u'd be able to heal slowly/reinforce on the field.

[LimblePwns]

good vid, not really familiar with DoW but hopefully I'll pick it up in time for some good new coms from you ^^

[Exmond]

You might want to try fighting opponents that have the same rank as you....

[a0400335]

really don't like the lvl up system.. lose a few critical units and you're done for! Hoping to see more games from you, maybe more emphasis on close ups and cool close combat action.. at least when your opponent poses no real challange.

[darkR4V3N]

Great commentating Vaul, as usual. :) Nicely played as well. It's good to see some DOW2 vids with Eldar, cause there's been just so little shown about their gameplay and style. Anyway, keep up the good work, and looking forward to seeing more good quality footage from you. :)

[JCstunteam]

man this is sweet great job

[ianuus]

Iyanden? Where's the wraithguard :(

[VaulSC]

Man, bringing in wraighguard for dow2 tier 3 is what they SHOULD have done. Eldar tier 3 in this game doesn't interest me... prism, avatar, D cannon... sure they are cool but tier 2 really gives everything you need.

[fakweet]

Thw Eldar presented in this game are based around the guardian heavy Ulthwe Strike force.

[Kilithaza]

Apothecary has LOW health without armor.

[CrypticAttack]

Good stuff.

[sev5796]

Pretty cool, I'd like to see a match against some1 who's played the game for more then 3secs

[JLORD300]

good job mate i hope to play you one day