lendl es mejor que roger en todo, e igual estoy conciente de que federer no puede ser el mejor tenista del la historia debido a su historial tan negativo vs nadal, pero fuera de eso,de algo si estoy segura, federer posee el tenis mas elegante y bonito de la historia, tiene un talento nunca visto y una naturalidad y tecnica que rayan en la genialidad,y si bien es cierto que su mente es debil, y por ese defecto no podra ser el mejor de la historia nunca, yo se que por lo menos en tecnica si lo es
@LilitaEsperanza07 El historial negativo que tiene con Nadal es obvio, Nadal está hecho para ganarle a Federer y ya se convirtió -desde hacce rato- en algo puramente mental. Pero una mente débil es otra cosa, una mente débil no gana 16 mayors, no dura 234 semanas seguidas como número 1, ni alcanza 23 semis seguidas de Mayors.
@jpelegante si tienes razon, pero si es feo que federer con la tecnica tan privilegiada que tiene no pueda hacerle frente al juego fisico de nadal, yo creo que federer le tiene miedo y la verdad es una pena, porque la gente a la larga no lo recordara como el mejor de la historia,sino como el eterno "hijo" de nadal. asi que nada le sirve tener esos records si durante todo este tiempo la paternidad de nadal sobre el es absoluta,lastima porque yo de verdad pense que el seria el mejor!
@MegaKtulu Have you ever seen Lendl play in person? You most definitely would not be saying that if you did. I love Federer, he's a great person and player but Ivan was a legend for a great reason and had the most powerful forehand of all time.
L'unica cosa che hanno in comune è che sono due campioni straordinari di due differenti epoche, ma per favore non paragoniamoli....non hanno nulla in comune con nessuno...
There is something I always wanted to say: Seeing Roger and Ivan in several videos I've seen on youtube, and being a contemporary of Roger, I dare say that Federer is the improved version of this new century of Ivan Lendl, and in the mental if Ivan had had the winning mentality of Roger ... Mmmm do not know what had happened, perhaps today we would be talking about something else
I find that the wind-shield wiper or millennium follow-through negatively impacts my control. I believe that players no longer have the time to have this big racquet take-back with the elbow leading. The ball today comes significantly faster than during Lendl's reign. This is also why we don't see today any pure serve and volleyers.
@PhilippedeHerte The reason we don't see true serve volleyers is because the surface and balls are slower. It's a baseline suited game now. Hardcourts and Wimbledon surfaces are significantly slower than they were 6 years ago. Balls are slower than they were 5 or 6 years ago. Funny how Federer, who suits the fast surface game isn't dominating anymore. 2 reason, players are closer to him, but the balls and surfaces are going away from his game, and into the baseline game. It's a double whammy.
@PhilippedeHerte I'm sure there is no conspiracy to bring Federer down. I don't the reasons for slower surfaces and balls. Surfaces like the Australian Open are called 'Rebound Ace' and it's more cushioning to the players. It's also slower. I don't know why balls and other surfaces like Wimbledon's grass is slower.
@sultanabran1 They changed the grass in 2001. On one hand the grass lasts longer now, on the other the type of grass and what it did to the ground slows down the ball.
@PhilippedeHerte what do you mean by the millennium follow-through? the over the head ala nadal? It can be said that these shots can be difficult to manage, but they also allow you to swing as hard as you can with margin. It is said that spin=control and that's true, and it's why these strokes came around. However the timing required can be more demanding due to the whippiness. I think we'll see in the next generation that the best will be able to adapt the F.T. for each ball like fed does.
True. But in my opinion, Lendl's era was a heck of a lot harder. I am fully aware that there is no way to prove that, but for me the names he had to face off against were far greater. After all, by the time Fed was peaking, Sampras and Agassi were all but gone. Which leaves Nadal (yawn).
And I am no Lendl fan btw, he was the father of "modern" (aka boring, one dimensional) tennis and that is something I will always hold against him.
@ElectricalCloud Federer is the greatest of his time...but not of all time...i don't think any player can claim to be the GOAT...that depends on a bunch of things..
i have always respected his exceptionality and pretty much dont understand the sh#t about sense of humour since u might joke in the cabin and then play poker face which btw makes sense to me if u wanna win sumtin, which he did in the 80s when u look at his constant over 90% winning percentage yet unbeaten record
p.s.it takes a man to keep his nerves under control all the time, i can tell :-)
25 years ago it was unbeatable and made millions.....he was a scratch golfer too...tried semi-pro golf after tennis. He was more fit than even some today.....he truely was a human terminator. saw him play a few times. Great days.
Great video mate. It's always interesting watching the differences from each generation, and also the similarities. Mats Wilander hits the ball a lot harder now than he did when he was #1 in the world, not only due to the racket and strings, but the "mindset". He's takes bigger cuts at the ball, and thinks more aggressively. Forehand 4 Forehand, I give the cake to Lendl. Also on that same page are Courier, Agassi (early years), Pistol, Fed, Becker, Flip, Rafa, Gonzo, and Del Potro. Vamos!
20 an de tennis avoir grandi et vivre des super moment avec cet deux champion , j ai ranger mes raquettes avec une 50 tene de coupe des tournois gagner je n oublirai pa se petit monde merveilleux !!!
maybe that short stop/no follow thru of Lendl's is what killed his back and RF's fluidity and smooth smooth follow thru is what keeps him healthy??? Lendl soo good to watch but Federer is the best best best of all time....simply the best. I am so happy to be here and now to see him play...
i'm kinda disappointed that the fuckapple that made this video titled it in a way that lures people into assuming they're gonna see fed actually play lendl. this is just a comparison... and a lame one at that. fuck you very much matteodinenno
Federer is good but he had no great opponents. When he had one (nadal) we saw what happened. With the same raquets Lendl could beat him for sure. More power.
Lendl didn't use the modern "windshield wiper" follow-through because he didn't need it, hitting more flat. Look at my last post: "Ivan Lendl vs Roger Federer: The Technique (Promo)".
Shorter? Ivan had a larger backswing than Roger and Borg had even a similar follow through, although he pleyed with wooden racquet and didn't hit harder than Lendl. Look at the forehand with which Ivan knocked down Gerulaitis in 1981 Masters Cup final (search "the most powerfull passing shot of all time"). The hardest i've aver seen, but always a big backswing and a compact follow through. Quite the opposite of Federer.
@caloyjp I just wanted to say that I think federer has the most technically sound forehand with the most diversity because of his clean footwork and timing that allows him to take a slightly different stroke to produce a different effect, like a buggy whip forehand on defense or a flat and penetrating ball moving forward. But I think delpotro's might edge in terms of offense simply because he hits it so hard, so consistently very deep in the court. When delpo moves well that shot is crazy.
@therealsolstice i dunno what you just said but all i was sayin is that players these days take bigger cuts at the ball cuz of factors i've already mentioned. just because someone reaches back farther or follows through farther doesn't make it a bigger cut. y'ever watched tai-chi? slow exaggerated movements.
i'm just sayin that players lay into a ball a lot harder now.... kinda like the difference between how hard I fuck my wife compared to the polite sex my parents had (thin walls)
@therealsolstice ppl have longer follow throughs now for the spin. and they have more compact backswings because it makes them more consistent. plus the fact that ppl hit soo much faster now, u can not take huge backswings anymore, u just dont have the time to anymore. its really not a matter of power. actually shorter strokes dont always give u more control, i find that if u follow through ur shot, u develop more consistency and spin, which means control
@therealsolstice I think players today can take bigger cuts at the ball because of the string tech that retains control at high head speeds, but that extra control actually allows for even awkward technique to be successful off the forehand wing(i.e.soderling)Today just swing as fast as you can and it works, and a whippier follow through gets more low to high. Lendl appears to have the longer backswing to really cane the ball and the short follow through to keep every stroke the same for control
lendl played 8 successive US open finals..just took 3 alright.. but see who are those guys shared the other 7...they're all legends... for 10-yrs who ever beat lendl in US open won the title.. I'd say in todays tennis only few if not only one could stand and spin the table around with Roger.....
RF forehand is more of wrist rotation and hit the ball a little farther from the body.. lendl has a better follow through... have you seen Petr Korda's forehand?.. i'd say one of the best
Ivan Lendl did use an eastern grip! I'm going to post some videos with photos from an instructional Ivan's book ("Ivan Lendl's Power Tennis"), which prove both his forehand's and backhand's grips were more classic than Federer's ones. Funny how in wikipedia they write quite the opposite...
Although Ivan was most powerfull even than Agassi, i do think the father of modern tennis, from a technical point of view, was Borg. Take a look to the comparison between Federer's and Borg's forehand, fore example: open stance, similar movement (at least the follow through) and grip... Also concerning the backhand side, most of todays players use the two handed top spin version of Borg more than the flat one of Connors, and the one-handed model come from Vilas more than from Lendl...
@matteodinenno Lendl used a semi western forehand grip. There was a video that him and John McEnroe made, and I remember him saying that. Sampras used a eastern grip. I can flat out guarantee you that Ivan Lendl wasnt more powerful than Agassi. If Agassi got a short ball he could easilly punish you with his forehand or backhand. Watch Australian Opean 2000 vs Kafelnikov... Agassi would hit backhand winners. Agassis game was all about his groundstrokes. And he could hit serves 125mph.
Concerning Lendl and Agassi, also Ivans game was all about his groundstrokes and he was able to hit backhand winners too, but even from 3 mt behind the base line. Look at the different backhand winners they hit in the 1993 New Haven QF posted su YouTube. Look at min. 2.10 and 4.22 for Agassi, and at min. 3.30 and 5.21 for Lendl
Lendl calls it semi-western also in his book only because he considered "eastern" the continental grip of femal players like Evert, Navratilova Mandlicova... and western the Borg's one. He shows both his forehand and backhand's grips with apposite photos from different point of view and according to the present definitions, they were respectively a full eastern and a "continental"! I'll show these photos in my videos, and i'd like you'll watch them...
Ivan Lendl started play lift backhand ..and was best in it ,after him Pete Sampras and Roger Federer si next to the line! Ivan should get a more credits for where is tennis now !!
Not sure exactly what the point is. Their swings aren't actually super super similar, due mostly to changes in string and racquet technology...but true Lendl was the first to hit anything like that, and Sampras, then Roger, had their ways paved by him.
@jeromekeeler33 and I wouldn't at all compare Lendl's movement with Federer's as well. Not only has the technology changed, but so has the training and rearing..the tennis players of today are more complete athletes.
Credo che Federer sia dotato d'una fluidità ed esplosività muscolare straordinari. L'accelerazione della testa della racchetta nei suoi colpi è evidentemente maggiore. Ivan compensa con aperture maggiori (più quantità di moto), specie nel dritto, e una fase d'impatto più lineare. Trasferimento di carico (specie in Lendl che non perde quasi mai contatto col suolo) e coordinazione sono eccellenti in entrambi. Il colpo che giocano con maggior naturalezza è il dritto. Poi "de gustibus..."
C'e da considerare che Ivan e Roger appertengono a due epoche diverse, diverso modo di giocare, diversa velocita' di palla, ecc.
Sicuramente la cosa che li accomuna e' quel modo di giocare un po lontano dall' OBROBRIOSO arrotino classico che fa apprezzare maggiormente la visione di un giocatore.
La leggenda di Ivan vivra' per sempre. Dal 5 Febbraio in poi, piu che mai.
C'è molta carne al fuoco, ma certi accostamenti sono appropriati ed esemplificativi della tecnica dei due. Preferisco Ivan perchè i suoi gesti mi sembrano più placidamente maestosi.
lendl es mejor que roger en todo, e igual estoy conciente de que federer no puede ser el mejor tenista del la historia debido a su historial tan negativo vs nadal, pero fuera de eso,de algo si estoy segura, federer posee el tenis mas elegante y bonito de la historia, tiene un talento nunca visto y una naturalidad y tecnica que rayan en la genialidad,y si bien es cierto que su mente es debil, y por ese defecto no podra ser el mejor de la historia nunca, yo se que por lo menos en tecnica si lo es
LilitaEsperanza07 3 weeks ago
@LilitaEsperanza07 El historial negativo que tiene con Nadal es obvio, Nadal está hecho para ganarle a Federer y ya se convirtió -desde hacce rato- en algo puramente mental. Pero una mente débil es otra cosa, una mente débil no gana 16 mayors, no dura 234 semanas seguidas como número 1, ni alcanza 23 semis seguidas de Mayors.
jpelegante 3 weeks ago
@jpelegante si tienes razon, pero si es feo que federer con la tecnica tan privilegiada que tiene no pueda hacerle frente al juego fisico de nadal, yo creo que federer le tiene miedo y la verdad es una pena, porque la gente a la larga no lo recordara como el mejor de la historia,sino como el eterno "hijo" de nadal. asi que nada le sirve tener esos records si durante todo este tiempo la paternidad de nadal sobre el es absoluta,lastima porque yo de verdad pense que el seria el mejor!
LilitaEsperanza07 3 weeks ago
No, I think Lendl has the best ground strokes both forehand and backhand.
sskgrs 1 month ago
Can you make Lendl vs Sampras? I think those 2 have similar style than roger.
momay69 1 month ago
This is a great video, can't understand all the stupid dislikes.
Federer shots are pure art, in terms of grace and elegance they are way better than Lendl's.
MegaKtulu 2 months ago
@MegaKtulu Have you ever seen Lendl play in person? You most definitely would not be saying that if you did. I love Federer, he's a great person and player but Ivan was a legend for a great reason and had the most powerful forehand of all time.
xquisitaz 1 month ago
@xquisitaz
I said in terms of elegance federer is better, but I know lendl forehand was one of the best!
MegaKtulu 1 month ago
That match never happened because in 2001 roger had other racquet
bellito96 2 months ago
Where do you all rank Sampras Forehand all time. I've watched all these guys live, and Pete's still seems like a missile through the court.
HawaiiProTennis 2 months ago
what's the name of the song???...please somebody know it?!!..
lima0102 3 months ago
@lima0102 /watch?v=9OHa8pAXJBs
ranajoy2010 3 months ago
@lima0102 this is a elton john song it,s old, the name is the king must died,
german661977 3 months ago
@german661977 thank you!! it's a good song!!!!
lima0102 3 months ago
Everyone praises Roger's forehand, but I don't think it is THE perfect technique - the arm is too much extended.
But his looseness, flexibility and speed probably make it the best forehand to date nevertheless.
pr4nk5tr 5 months ago
:33 wtf is roger wearing a belt? What the hell? Conceded?
ZawShin 8 months ago
Ivan è stato un grandissimo troppo sottovalutato ma Roger.....simply the best.
obellaciao 8 months ago
YESSS ,LENDL WAS HIS TEACHER!!! AND SAMPRAS TOO !!!
GO IVAN !go Czech !
one handed topspin backhand started with IVAN !!!! and basicaly topspin forehand too.!
napajedlacek 8 months ago
@napajedlacek Last I remember, Laver hit a slice and topspin one handed backhand.
mrbobevans 3 months ago
@mrbobevans - well ,I am feel old ,but still way too young for Laver
I ve never seen him played..
napajedlacek 3 months ago
That was a nice video, thank you
boy20022002 8 months ago
Mes joueurs préférés : celui d'hier et celui d'aujourd'hui .
59muriL 9 months ago
L'unica cosa che hanno in comune è che sono due campioni straordinari di due differenti epoche, ma per favore non paragoniamoli....non hanno nulla in comune con nessuno...
marinozzone 9 months ago
man i like this video, the music goes so well with it
ssonosk 10 months ago
There is something I always wanted to say: Seeing Roger and Ivan in several videos I've seen on youtube, and being a contemporary of Roger, I dare say that Federer is the improved version of this new century of Ivan Lendl, and in the mental if Ivan had had the winning mentality of Roger ... Mmmm do not know what had happened, perhaps today we would be talking about something else
Chynatown85 11 months ago
I find that the wind-shield wiper or millennium follow-through negatively impacts my control. I believe that players no longer have the time to have this big racquet take-back with the elbow leading. The ball today comes significantly faster than during Lendl's reign. This is also why we don't see today any pure serve and volleyers.
PhilippedeHerte 11 months ago
@PhilippedeHerte The reason we don't see true serve volleyers is because the surface and balls are slower. It's a baseline suited game now. Hardcourts and Wimbledon surfaces are significantly slower than they were 6 years ago. Balls are slower than they were 5 or 6 years ago. Funny how Federer, who suits the fast surface game isn't dominating anymore. 2 reason, players are closer to him, but the balls and surfaces are going away from his game, and into the baseline game. It's a double whammy.
sultanabran1 11 months ago
@sultanabran1 Was this a deliberate and concerted decision to slow down the game? Seems like a conspiracy.
PhilippedeHerte 11 months ago
@PhilippedeHerte I'm sure there is no conspiracy to bring Federer down. I don't the reasons for slower surfaces and balls. Surfaces like the Australian Open are called 'Rebound Ace' and it's more cushioning to the players. It's also slower. I don't know why balls and other surfaces like Wimbledon's grass is slower.
sultanabran1 11 months ago
@sultanabran1 They changed the grass in 2001. On one hand the grass lasts longer now, on the other the type of grass and what it did to the ground slows down the ball.
freedomsstain 1 month ago
@PhilippedeHerte what do you mean by the millennium follow-through? the over the head ala nadal? It can be said that these shots can be difficult to manage, but they also allow you to swing as hard as you can with margin. It is said that spin=control and that's true, and it's why these strokes came around. However the timing required can be more demanding due to the whippiness. I think we'll see in the next generation that the best will be able to adapt the F.T. for each ball like fed does.
purgatory13z 9 months ago
no comparison, if only look from the aspect of beauty
michaelroddick 1 year ago
fake as!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tennisroxthehouse 1 year ago
it should be Roger Federer vs Lendl because Roger Federer is the greatest of all time and doubled Lendl's record of grand slams
ElectricalCloud 1 year ago
@ElectricalCloud
True. But in my opinion, Lendl's era was a heck of a lot harder. I am fully aware that there is no way to prove that, but for me the names he had to face off against were far greater. After all, by the time Fed was peaking, Sampras and Agassi were all but gone. Which leaves Nadal (yawn).
And I am no Lendl fan btw, he was the father of "modern" (aka boring, one dimensional) tennis and that is something I will always hold against him.
alin1975 1 year ago
@ElectricalCloud Federer is the greatest of his time...but not of all time...i don't think any player can claim to be the GOAT...that depends on a bunch of things..
federerbestcIass 9 months ago
I think Lendl was a great player , but Federer is a MASTER , the best in history of tennis
wwetnafan97 1 year ago
Do you think the Rackets will get even more powerful in the future? What else can increase the speed even more?
Thanks
RF
JimAsian1 1 year ago
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JimAsian1 1 year ago
i have always respected his exceptionality and pretty much dont understand the sh#t about sense of humour since u might joke in the cabin and then play poker face which btw makes sense to me if u wanna win sumtin, which he did in the 80s when u look at his constant over 90% winning percentage yet unbeaten record
p.s.it takes a man to keep his nerves under control all the time, i can tell :-)
starejpard 1 year ago
lendl has very ugly technique.
warrenvazquez 1 year ago
@warrenvazquez
25 years ago it was unbeatable and made millions.....he was a scratch golfer too...tried semi-pro golf after tennis. He was more fit than even some today.....he truely was a human terminator. saw him play a few times. Great days.
00Billy 1 year ago
Great video mate. It's always interesting watching the differences from each generation, and also the similarities. Mats Wilander hits the ball a lot harder now than he did when he was #1 in the world, not only due to the racket and strings, but the "mindset". He's takes bigger cuts at the ball, and thinks more aggressively. Forehand 4 Forehand, I give the cake to Lendl. Also on that same page are Courier, Agassi (early years), Pistol, Fed, Becker, Flip, Rafa, Gonzo, and Del Potro. Vamos!
theatlantean3 1 year ago
Federer's forehand is so freaking tight (and I mean that descriptively) and so solid. No one on the tour today comes close to it.
Azariah197 1 year ago
20 an de tennis avoir grandi et vivre des super moment avec cet deux champion , j ai ranger mes raquettes avec une 50 tene de coupe des tournois gagner je n oublirai pa se petit monde merveilleux !!!
SuperKEVRIC 1 year ago
maybe that short stop/no follow thru of Lendl's is what killed his back and RF's fluidity and smooth smooth follow thru is what keeps him healthy??? Lendl soo good to watch but Federer is the best best best of all time....simply the best. I am so happy to be here and now to see him play...
PB11784 1 year ago
i'm kinda disappointed that the fuckapple that made this video titled it in a way that lures people into assuming they're gonna see fed actually play lendl. this is just a comparison... and a lame one at that. fuck you very much matteodinenno
therealsolstice 1 year ago
Federer is good but he had no great opponents. When he had one (nadal) we saw what happened. With the same raquets Lendl could beat him for sure. More power.
Pitonto 1 year ago
@TennisAnnalyst wow. you sure know your biomechanics. thanks for explaining. i always thought roger hit with a little wrist.
masterchifuness 1 year ago
Lendl didn't use the modern "windshield wiper" follow-through because he didn't need it, hitting more flat. Look at my last post: "Ivan Lendl vs Roger Federer: The Technique (Promo)".
matteodinenno 1 year ago 4
@matteodinenno it's pretty obvious that players use bigger swipes now cuz rackets are lighter and strings are tighter (= less power).
the ball flies off those older rackets. that's why players had shorter more controlled strokes back then.
btw you should retitle this vid "a comparison of roger federer and ivan lendl" so that people don't wanna sodomize you with a tennis racket
therealsolstice 1 year ago 5
Shorter? Ivan had a larger backswing than Roger and Borg had even a similar follow through, although he pleyed with wooden racquet and didn't hit harder than Lendl. Look at the forehand with which Ivan knocked down Gerulaitis in 1981 Masters Cup final (search "the most powerfull passing shot of all time"). The hardest i've aver seen, but always a big backswing and a compact follow through. Quite the opposite of Federer.
matteodinenno 1 year ago
@matteodinenno Who do you think has the best forehand right now? Is it still federer?
caloyjp 1 year ago
@caloyjp I think Federer has still the best forehand in today's tennis. Even Nadal asserts that.
matteodinenno 1 year ago
I think Fernando Gonzales has.
gasan4ik123 4 months ago
Fedrer has the best backhand
gasan4ik123 4 months ago
@caloyjp I just wanted to say that I think federer has the most technically sound forehand with the most diversity because of his clean footwork and timing that allows him to take a slightly different stroke to produce a different effect, like a buggy whip forehand on defense or a flat and penetrating ball moving forward. But I think delpotro's might edge in terms of offense simply because he hits it so hard, so consistently very deep in the court. When delpo moves well that shot is crazy.
purgatory13z 9 months ago
@matteodinenno
Exactly. They are very different strokes.
KingCast65 1 year ago
@therealsolstice i dunno what you just said but all i was sayin is that players these days take bigger cuts at the ball cuz of factors i've already mentioned. just because someone reaches back farther or follows through farther doesn't make it a bigger cut. y'ever watched tai-chi? slow exaggerated movements.
i'm just sayin that players lay into a ball a lot harder now.... kinda like the difference between how hard I fuck my wife compared to the polite sex my parents had (thin walls)
therealsolstice 1 year ago
@therealsolstice ppl have longer follow throughs now for the spin. and they have more compact backswings because it makes them more consistent. plus the fact that ppl hit soo much faster now, u can not take huge backswings anymore, u just dont have the time to anymore. its really not a matter of power. actually shorter strokes dont always give u more control, i find that if u follow through ur shot, u develop more consistency and spin, which means control
millionairejh 1 year ago
@millionairejh eeehhhh yur meh's tits
therealsolstice 1 year ago
@therealsolstice I think players today can take bigger cuts at the ball because of the string tech that retains control at high head speeds, but that extra control actually allows for even awkward technique to be successful off the forehand wing(i.e.soderling)Today just swing as fast as you can and it works, and a whippier follow through gets more low to high. Lendl appears to have the longer backswing to really cane the ball and the short follow through to keep every stroke the same for control
purgatory13z 9 months ago
federer is too good. best ever. might as well admit it. he steps up his game when needed unlike any others.truly remarkable how he does this.
fadethetrade 1 year ago
What racquet brand did Lendl use? What logo was that looks like a pic of a leaf. Are they still sold in market today?
d0min0danc1ng 1 year ago
Adidas gtx pro t. Not in market today. Try with ebay...
matteodinenno 1 year ago
@d0min0danc1ng was Mizuno logo
cirkatomic 1 year ago
lendl played 8 successive US open finals..just took 3 alright.. but see who are those guys shared the other 7...they're all legends... for 10-yrs who ever beat lendl in US open won the title.. I'd say in todays tennis only few if not only one could stand and spin the table around with Roger.....
bdz67 1 year ago
Impresiv vid ...big tenis player.
ReplicaChile 1 year ago
RF forehand is more of wrist rotation and hit the ball a little farther from the body.. lendl has a better follow through... have you seen Petr Korda's forehand?.. i'd say one of the best
bdz67 1 year ago
I do think so and i'd say the Petr Korda's forehand follow through was one of the most similar to Lendl's one.
matteodinenno 1 year ago
Ivan Lendl did use an eastern grip! I'm going to post some videos with photos from an instructional Ivan's book ("Ivan Lendl's Power Tennis"), which prove both his forehand's and backhand's grips were more classic than Federer's ones. Funny how in wikipedia they write quite the opposite...
matteodinenno 1 year ago
Although Ivan was most powerfull even than Agassi, i do think the father of modern tennis, from a technical point of view, was Borg. Take a look to the comparison between Federer's and Borg's forehand, fore example: open stance, similar movement (at least the follow through) and grip... Also concerning the backhand side, most of todays players use the two handed top spin version of Borg more than the flat one of Connors, and the one-handed model come from Vilas more than from Lendl...
matteodinenno 1 year ago
@matteodinenno Lendl used a semi western forehand grip. There was a video that him and John McEnroe made, and I remember him saying that. Sampras used a eastern grip. I can flat out guarantee you that Ivan Lendl wasnt more powerful than Agassi. If Agassi got a short ball he could easilly punish you with his forehand or backhand. Watch Australian Opean 2000 vs Kafelnikov... Agassi would hit backhand winners. Agassis game was all about his groundstrokes. And he could hit serves 125mph.
rmrooster01 1 year ago
Concerning Lendl and Agassi, also Ivans game was all about his groundstrokes and he was able to hit backhand winners too, but even from 3 mt behind the base line. Look at the different backhand winners they hit in the 1993 New Haven QF posted su YouTube. Look at min. 2.10 and 4.22 for Agassi, and at min. 3.30 and 5.21 for Lendl
matteodinenno 1 year ago
Lendl calls it semi-western also in his book only because he considered "eastern" the continental grip of femal players like Evert, Navratilova Mandlicova... and western the Borg's one. He shows both his forehand and backhand's grips with apposite photos from different point of view and according to the present definitions, they were respectively a full eastern and a "continental"! I'll show these photos in my videos, and i'd like you'll watch them...
matteodinenno 1 year ago
NICE!
TWO OF MY ALL TIME FAVS
BLACKTREAT 1 year ago
Ivan Lendl started play lift backhand ..and was best in it ,after him Pete Sampras and Roger Federer si next to the line! Ivan should get a more credits for where is tennis now !!
napajedlacek 1 year ago
Lendl: The first modern tennis player.
Just compare how he shifted his own style (Paris final vs Borg, til his late matches)
He transformed tennis.
Federer and Nadal are so far the perfection of what he started: Deadly topspin forehand, professional attitude, great fitness.
ulizinho 2 years ago
lendl was one of the greatest. shame he did not convert more wins in grandslam finals. he lost as many as he won i think.
N20STT 2 years ago
Not sure exactly what the point is. Their swings aren't actually super super similar, due mostly to changes in string and racquet technology...but true Lendl was the first to hit anything like that, and Sampras, then Roger, had their ways paved by him.
jeromekeeler33 2 years ago
@jeromekeeler33 and I wouldn't at all compare Lendl's movement with Federer's as well. Not only has the technology changed, but so has the training and rearing..the tennis players of today are more complete athletes.
xman4un 2 years ago
Legends
DuchDoby 2 years ago
Credo che Federer sia dotato d'una fluidità ed esplosività muscolare straordinari. L'accelerazione della testa della racchetta nei suoi colpi è evidentemente maggiore. Ivan compensa con aperture maggiori (più quantità di moto), specie nel dritto, e una fase d'impatto più lineare. Trasferimento di carico (specie in Lendl che non perde quasi mai contatto col suolo) e coordinazione sono eccellenti in entrambi. Il colpo che giocano con maggior naturalezza è il dritto. Poi "de gustibus..."
matteodinenno 2 years ago
Concordo pienamente con MrJoegideon.
C'e da considerare che Ivan e Roger appertengono a due epoche diverse, diverso modo di giocare, diversa velocita' di palla, ecc.
Sicuramente la cosa che li accomuna e' quel modo di giocare un po lontano dall' OBROBRIOSO arrotino classico che fa apprezzare maggiormente la visione di un giocatore.
La leggenda di Ivan vivra' per sempre. Dal 5 Febbraio in poi, piu che mai.
Grande Mat.
StefanoSocci 2 years ago
C'è molta carne al fuoco, ma certi accostamenti sono appropriati ed esemplificativi della tecnica dei due. Preferisco Ivan perchè i suoi gesti mi sembrano più placidamente maestosi.
MrJoegideon 2 years ago