Serve & Protect

[TheBlayzinAsian420]

Typical Police Behavior LoL!

[alicebabeeey]

danke fürs video bin so alleine

[masluxx]

bingo

[fermerwuvu]

haha he is right there..

[healthcare]

nice

[lostintravise]

haha, awesome

[iloveyou4everize]

ahhh my big brother is the robber in this one!!! hes gettin married. =) I love you jared!!! good job.

[MyPaperBleedsInk]

We had to watch and vote on these commercials in my AP Government class, and this was by far our favorite one.

[hamnose]

Great video. Thanks.

[whateverlolawants]

Great, very good point. If it was longer you could have hit even more points, b/c this is a good analogy.

[alternapersona]

dude. chill lol. it's the title to a vid.

just search BONER IN CHURCH

[pwndu90]

ya dude wtf does that mean? wtf is BONER IN CHURCH???

[theasdfgman]

lol wtf?? what is BONER IN CHURCH????

[pwndu90]

nurses for it. doctors against. for some reason i dont see us running out of doctors.

[alternapersona]

nurses for it. doctors against..... BONER IN CHURCH hahaha

[hamnose]

If you are talking about health care reform, public option etc. you are half correct. Doctors for it too and overwhelmingly so. Check out some sites like the AMA's website.

[SexxiTanja91]

ich bin total aufgedreht und ungezogen heute wer will mit mir camen

[libra52437]

It's very good. Exactly what we are up against if we don't vote for health reform.

[SNICKLEFRITZ347]

this is an effective commercial

[torontokid2006]

That ending is so freakin EPIC.

"oh, i wanna get my son one of those" lol

Good job guys!

[av8tor17b]

Good, but not great. I think the one that impacts me the most is the one titled 'Human Instinct". This one is good, but not the best.

[ObamasLipsAreMoving]

gop(dot)gov/solutions/healthca­re

[doggie46ify]

Very creative. I wonder if the "average Joe" would get the point? The point be being that health care should be a basic right without all the obstacles. If that point gets across through this video then it's great.

[torontokid2006]

I don't think Joe the plumber would get it LOL

[socalmaniac]

hahaha

[downstream347]

This one is my favorite. Best of the 20!!

[PIOSystems]

Funny vid, but this Health care issue is getting serious.

[plumkessler]

Best of the 20! The only one I gave 5 stars. Hope it wins! Great job.

[yangmiller]

I loves what you guys are doing how can I get involved?

[incunablum]

Great! My favorite of the 20. I also liked the fast food one.

[SeattleCritic]

Best Video !

I always thought that healthcare is as basic of a right as the right to be protected from crime or fire.

Why people who don't mind socialised Police & Fire protection, cry murder at the thought of having the socialised Health protection ?

[Successmate]

I see the fear tactics are still working with some. Do they go out or give away candy on halloween. How about scary movies? Can you actually sit through a good one?

Wow! What thinking or should I say, - lack of thinking.

[SmapAttack]

Piss off.

[SmapAttack]

This comment was directed at a dumb youtube spammer not at Plurgid.

[SmapAttack]

*supplied

[jameschris112]

$500-800 BILLION in "free market" waste per year is what the "cantservatives" and AHIP lobby want. liberals say retrofitting the current system with 21st century data collection/sharing and initial start-up costs of a service to care for the now un(der)insured who cost us all about $1000/year in higher premiums will cost $80 B for 10 years. hate on haters... ya got no power, even worse ideas, and will be fighting the tbags for at least the next decade. voters know you suck at life. WE WIN.

[greg0658]

twist of an attention getter .. puchy in the gut feel .. I don't think it'll play over and over well .. mass insurrection stuff

[sflorries]

This one is the best! So good: straight to the point and hilarious! I just became a fan of you guys :)

[bweathe]

"This is simple economics." Great oxymoron. Nobody's expecting "free" health care, just "universal" access. Do you understand the difference? We currently have three tiers. Private pay, public pay and uninsured. If we had universal access, then everybody would pay the same. Wow, there's a concept. Precisely what the video is pointing out.

[youbestbequiet]

EVERYBODY won't pay the same..There is the problem! What a concept. It will be tax based so the more we make, the more we pay. Screw that! I am perfectly happy with Blue Cross Open Access. I am just glad Reid put in the public option so this plan will be DOA Thanks Harry, you knew by putting that in, you would keep the left happy and the right knowing it will never pass.

[SmapAttack]

There will be NO universal access if there is a shortage in supply, hence SIMPLE ECONOMICS.

[SmapAttack]

This is simple economics. If we get "free" health care (nothing's free, by the way) there will be a raise in demand, a shortage in supply, equaling longer waiting times, equaling people dying in waiting rooms. Not to mention incentive taken from doctors which will lead to a further decrease in health quality and less doctors.

I think the more accurate video would be the woman calling the police and the police showing up 5 months later.

[silverio1942]

you must already have insurance, therefore problem already solved right?

look at it from the point of view of the uninsured: their waiting times cant be longer because they have no coverage anyway

i think the (still) richest country in the world could stop wasting its resources on foreign wars and military/prison/auto industrial complexes and focus on educating and healing its citizens.

[SmapAttack]

The people without insurance are the minority. And for them there are other options such as Medicare. If people really need something done they will find a way, but revamping our entire system and making the majority pay for "Universal" health care when they already have established their own without the "help" of the government is just ludicrous.

[plurgid]

Holy crap, dude, are you even human?

Your entire argument is that if we give those filthy ruffians the same healthcare I get, then there won't be enough to go around?

your argument can be easily debunked, but the logical fallacy isn't nearly as jaw-dropping as your apparent selfish lack of concern for your fellow man.

"Let them eat aspirin", I guess.

That's one of the most fucked up views of the world I can imagine.

[SmapAttack]

Hahaha, notice that I NEVER said anything like "filthy ruffian". You presumed that yourself, so aren't YOU the one who's being rude/presumptuous?

By the way, you didn't provide an argument against why there would be a shortage causing a loss of quality AND life of a lot more people just so the incredibly small minority can say, "whoop di do" I have health care that I have to wait a really long time to get and I'm still being charged for it anyway with taxes...

[plurgid]

yes, I guess I'm being rude. Guilty as charged!

You asked for a debunking so here it is. If the uninsured are such "an incredibly small minority", how in the hell can providing healthcare to them be such a burden so as to bring the system to its knees as you suggest?

BAM! debunked! But hey, I'm on a roll, so here's another one:

everyone who has healthcare is paying a tax for it already, except you pay it to an insurance company, whose sole objective is to make money by denying you care.

[SmapAttack]

The problem with that argument is it is NOT just the people with no health care that will cause demand to go up it will also be people who are paying for the health care through heavy taxes. Everybody will want to get their "money's worth".

[plurgid]

LOL ... WHAT?

so you're saying that because everyone will be paying into the system, that everyone will be "sick" all the time in order to get their money's worth?

well you know, everyone pays pretty damn heavily into insurance today, and that doesn't happen, so I dunno man.

This argument sounds pretty damn weak to me.

[SmapAttack]

No, the connotation of something being free will raise demand. Not that people are necessarily sick.

[plurgid]

the connotation of something being "free" is exactly the situation we have with insurance companies, today.

When you go to the hospital, do you stop to weigh the cost of that CAT scan you're about to get? NO! you whip out your insurance card and it's "free" beyond what you pay to the insurer every month already.

It's no different with government replacing the insurance company ... except that the government has no profit motive to find a reason to charge you for the CAT scan anyhow.

[SmapAttack]

Oh, also, you stated that 15 million people are the minority, but it's ridiculous to say that these uninsured won't cause a significant rise in demand as well.

[SmapAttack]

"...whose sole objective is to make money by denying you care."

Oh no! the evil insurance companies!

Insurance companies are there to help you cover your healthcare costs. When you sign on with them, or your employer does, you get 2-3 pages of what is covered and how much. You are aware of what the premiums are before you enroll.

Have you seen what will be covered and how much from the Government? Do you know how much they will be taking from your check?

[plurgid]

Do you? I doubt it, being that no bill has even passed committee to be voted on at this point. It's wild speculation on anyone's part.

I'll say this. I'm paying over $300 / month for good insurance through my employer today. It's hard to imagine a public option being a heluva lot worse than that.

Yes, I know what the deal is upfront when I sign on, but then I don't have a choice do I? It's whatever my employer is willing to spring for. That's no "free market solution", dude.

[silverio1942]

plurgid, just forget it. you cannot bother convincing someone so selfish and indifferent to support universal healthcare.

a lot of these indifferent conservatives were howling on 9/11 about 'united we stand.' i wish they would show some consistency and see the universal healthcare is a form of unity as well

[SmapAttack]

However, insurance insures quality of health care. Government takes away incentives and will reduce the quality of health care, create longer waiting times and create a shortage in supply of health care.

[plurgid]

What basis in reality do you have to support this claim?

What motive would the government have to create long wait times or reduce quality of care?

Why don't we see these claimed effects already under medicare?

[SmapAttack]

Not that the government does it purposely, but it is an effect of what happens when Quantity Demanded > Quantity Supplies.

[SmapAttack]

Well, I guess this part of the argument depends on how much you trust the government which is entirely subjective.

I don't know your situation, but I do know that I as well as other people have the option for shopping around for better insurance prices. Capitalist markets keeps insurance prices down through competitions which is doing a lot as other people who need expensive operations are being cared for by the other people also paying for insurance. Not too different from the gov't, right?

[silverio1942]

suposedly the prices for healthcare are going up and more people are losing access to their insurance. perhaps as it becomes inaccessible to more of the population, public opinion will change. and you'd be surprised to see how little competition there really is once market share gets consolidated by a few large insurance companies.

[plurgid]

Now I think you're getting my point!

Everyone pays into insurance, for the benefit of the people who need healthcare, and it works because not everyone is sick all the time.

The only difference is that the insurance company is in it to gain profit by finding ways to deny you care, and the government is not driven by profit concerns.

As the video points out. We trust the government to provide police protection, fire protection and military protection.

Why shouldn't we trust them with this?

[SmapAttack]

"However, insurance insures quality of health care. Government takes away incentives and will reduce the quality of health care, create longer waiting times and create a shortage in supply of health care."

^ I don't know if you saw this post...

Anyway, with all the government scandals and untrustworthy politicians, I do not trust the government. At least there are whistleblowers in corporations, but it's hard to get rid of corrupt government.

[ObamasLipsAreMoving]

It is precisely because government has no profit motive that there has been so much fraud and waste in their programs in the past. The reason for this is the way the set their budgets - on past spending. I'm just sayin...

[plurgid]

It is precicely *because* of the profit motive in the existing system that I can spend upwards of $500/month in prescriptions, or I can take a $20,000 trip to the emergency room for a broken leg.

You're going on about how the government can't get anything right and is full of waste and corruption, like the current model isn't all of that and more.

Ask yourself, "how can healthcare be 1/6th of our economy, without literally everyone in America being deathly ill?".

[ObamasLipsAreMoving]

We do more to save lives than any country. Most new therapies & technologies come from efforts of American workers. You & the WHOLE world benefit from that. THAT is one reason why it is such a large part of our economy. Waste & corruption is this government's specialty (has been for years). Health-related companies must do the best job possible to maintain their quality of care, because if not, they are out of business. Gov't? Just raise taxes & all the idiots like you will just go along.

[ThorGoLucky]

Good thing that we have a socialist police department.

[wendileona]

Excellent. Effective, not cory or goofy, direct and cool, dry humor. But may need a little more clarification in someway, the message is a bit foggy, and maybe that was the intent, I dunno, just needs some kind of intro. Excellent acting, no hipsters, nice.

[purplez69]

Great video!!! Hit the nail right on the head. Take iamafractal's advise. This is the winning video to get the point across to all the hard heads and all the ones in denial. Good job!!

[mudblooddoc]

Thanks for the propaganda, ObamasLips. Unfortunately, I've read the paper whose data you are misquoting. Dude, Cuba did better than us on breast and colon cancer. Frickin' Cuba!

In fact, we were bested or equalled on every single cancer. So are you sure you want to go down this road? The CONCORD study paper is by Coleman et al. (which means"and others", in case you don't know that either) in the journal (a means to transmit factual information you might find helpful) Lancet Oncology in 2008.

[ObamasLipsAreMoving]

After watching this, you tell me if you trust the "statistics" whipped up by the Castro Regime.

YouTube search: "Cuba's Healthcare: Medical Apartheid"

[iamafractal]

I'd love to see versions of this with a lifeguard, fire department, the military and an invasion.... etc... :-)

[pschriver]

BTW, freeloveforum, this is a great spot. I gave it top honors. I agree with other posters (minus ObamasLipsAreMoving) that I would love to see this made into a campaign.

[ObamasLipsAreMoving]

The study showed the US had the highest five-year survival rates for breast cancer at 83.9% and prostate cancer at 91.9%.

The UK had 69.7% survival for breast cancer, just above 40% for colon and rectal cancer for both men and women and 51.1% for prostate cancer.

ARE YOU REALLY WILLING TO BET THAT OUR GOVERNMENT CAN DO ANY BETTER?

[iamafractal]

yes we saw that insurance industry study, that cherry picked one or two good stats for the usa out of many thousands that added together leave us at #37 in the world, right next to slovenia, at health outcomes... sadly there is a ZERO % survival rate for breast cancer victims who are turned down for coverage or not insured. that silly little study you reference doesn't happen to include all of those people who aren't getting treated here, because they can't come up with the money.

[ObamasLipsAreMoving]

And just who sponsored the study you refer to? the WHO?

[BrandonPais]

dude you're the one tossing out random facts/statistics like a Bush advisor without actually referencing them . . .

[pschriver]

Lucky for your disingenuous ass, taint, and breasts, your current doctor isn't going to get replaced by a government worker. Kind of like how when you go to the doctor now, you're not treated by an insurance agent.

[iamafractal]

This is the best one.... now make versions of it for a lifeguard, drowning person, fire department, burning building, invasion, marine... that should be goood.

[iamafractal]

It should say, If we ran the police like we run health care... at the beginning... or maybe it doesn't have to.. hm.

[makeroftoys]

Brilliant.

[TED5165]

Great ad!

[sailortitan]

This is great. Perfect analogy XD

[WinChicken]

part of the governments job is to protect us from others, not to steal from people to give it to other people.

[shamickgaworski]

says who? says society right. It is very imaginable that unless you have money, police won't help you.

In Europe, since payer health care has been in existance for decades. Up there some "WinChicken" can say "it is government job to provide us health care" - it is all after a while judgment that society makes. This isn't, in other words, some "God" given rules.

[WinChicken]

in Europe they wait for health care sometimes for years, their death rates are higher then ours, and they are taxed like its a prostate exam (not that they know what that is) Government has never done anything cheaper or better then the private sector. Post Office, DMV, Amtrak, Social Sacurity, and I think you get the point. Lets open it up and let the people fix the problem not the dumbass congress. Help yourslef and help your neighbor don't steal to make yourself feel better.

[shamickgaworski]

That is BS! And you know it! "wait for years!"

Are you nuts! I am from Europe, I live in France ... but more and more, this 'scary' tactics is not working so I don't have to keep writing here.

Look, the alternative - the US - is NOT working and everyone knows it. Now, the only question is that some still make tons of money on the system that's in place, and more and more people realize it is a fight against money makers ...

It isn't about 'waiting' 'access' 'choice' but 100% - can you afford?

[vahidrezaramezani]

Although I understand aspects of your argument, I don't think the way we organize generation and re-distribution of wealth is "stealing". Generation of wealth is a collective enterprise in which it is entirely possible that some people are making too much. I have found no persuasive argument that "free markets" are inherently fair, free or just. They are just one way to organize rooted in history. They give rise, sometimes, to useful powerful competitive mechanisms driven by short term profit.

[ObamasLipsAreMoving]

vahidrezaramezani-So with your line of reasoning, I should be able to use my kids' Social Security numbers to take out a loan (even though I know there is no way for me to repay the sum) so that I can give money to someone who has less than I?

[vahidrezaramezani]

I am merely suggesting that "free markets" are over-advertised. I believe government should not be too powerful both in economic and political sense, at the same time when the aristocracy or in case of the US, oligarchy, as a class, fails to lead, fails to use its leading position properly, there must be serious consequences for them as a class. I would for example support a law diverting all bonuses over 100,000 to be directly given to laid off workers of the same firms. (or to your child ;)

[ObamasLipsAreMoving]

Who are you (or government for that matter) to say how one is compensated. You are now talking Fascist ideology. I think what a lot of people overlook is that these people who make huge salaries, for the most part are very charitable.

[vahidrezaramezani]

Fascism is the essential and total control of means of production by the state; it is not mere intervention.

The leading class in the US serves insufficiently in wars of the nation, failing their primary duty.

When Rome was great, it was great because the men with the most wealth loved her the most. The aristocracy must live an austere life not merely be charitable. When they do, they get to have freedom of action; otherwise the pitchforks.

[bluestems]

Then why do 700,000 Americans declare bankruptcy *every year* due to medical bills? And the majority of those who do, HAVE insurance.

Insurance co. profits have quadrupled in the past 8 years, yet they deny coverage for things like a woman's cancer treatment because she had acne once. Another with diabetes since 4 yrs old can't get coverage at all.

Hardworking Americans don't need to depend on the charity of rich, they need the insurance they pay for to cover what they said they would.

[bluestems]

The CBO reported that the healthcare reform plan would SAVE us millions over the next 10 years in existing healthcare costs. Further, the public option would be insurance paid for by those who want it. Only a small amount of public option would be subsidized (through existing funds... again CBO reported it would save us millions)

[ObamasLipsAreMoving]

Great. Spend a $trillion to save "$millions."

Just gotta ask: would you spend $30 on gas to save $10 on a purchase, too?

[bluestems]

you miss the point... if you are already spending $40 on gas, and can save $10 to only pay $30, then it's a savings on something you need.

We need healthcare. On average, Americans pay $3000 more per year than any other country ... and we are getting less care!

The healthcare reform helps with better regulation so we get care we are paying for and it will help lower our costs.

[bluestems]

The reform is overhauling the entire system... savings from things like coverting to electronic records would save costs to medicare/medicaid by reducing paperwork and reducing duplicate testing, or providing more affordable health insurance so people can afford to go to the doctor for preventative care instead of ER visits on taxpayer dollars. In the end, these savings amount to millions to the taxpayers, and we get better care for more people.

see: w ww do t heathreform d ot g ov

[ObamasLipsAreMoving]

I see also substantial increase in Medicare rolls, which reimbursement to physicians is already dismally low. Add a substantial reduction in growth in reimbursement for Medicare services, and it is no wonder that 45% of doctor say they will consider closing up shop if this thing passes. We already have a shortage, so with nearly half (or even 1/4) the doctors gone, how do you REALLY see this thing playing out?

[bluestems]

and as a landscape designer, I have plenty of doctors as clients... trust me, they are doing just fine. They have very large multi-million dollar homes, second homes that cost more than mine... doctors are not suffering.

The Amercian Medical Association supports the reform. So does AARP and the American Nurse Association.

[ObamasLipsAreMoving]

The AMA reps 17% of doctors, are mostly med students, retired & profs. They endorsed because of a promised "Dr. Fix" to stabilize reimbursements. "Dr. Fix" was voted down. Promise broken. Losing members for that foul-up. AARP, down 60,000 members & dropping since they did, then they didn't then they did again. Don't know much about ANA, but really...they aren't doctors. They'll be working for min wage soon.

[ObamasLipsAreMoving]

Docs on my brother-in-law's route are behind in paying and canceling service. Yours must be the foot-cutter-offers Obama talked about.

[bluestems]

Your scare tactics might work except that there are plenty of other countries with universal coverage (not all single payer, like German who has unversial coverage through private insurance that is regulated) and they have better health stats too. We pay $3000 more on average per year than any other country... there is room for better rates and better care.

[bluestems]

Here's a great article about universal care in other countries for perspective...

google "Five Myths about Healthcare in the World" by T.R. Reid

[bluestems]

but who I do see suffering are the 700,000 Americans who declare bankruptcy due to medical bills EVERY year, the majority of who HAVE insurance.

And the over 40 million Americans without any insurance at all.

And the small business owners and self employeed who are getting crushed by sky rocketing premiums.

And every American who's paid 4x more for their insurance and healthcare over the past 8 years, but who's getting LESS care now.

and you defend insurance co & doctor profits...

[ExoneratedUndead]

wow its nice to see theres at least one person that gets it. your exactly right. Unfortunately most Americans just want free stuff and will not be pleased no matter what is done for us. So for the rare few like us, we do what we can.

[leanybean7]

Very well done! Makes a great point and it's very funny.

[veprii]

Nothing is "Free". The government will take half of your pay and give you one tenth of it back in medical service. You could reform health care by limiting the amount of money people get in law suits to 500K or even 1M. Quit providing basic medical services (not emergency) to criminal aliens and allow insurance companies to provide service nation wide. I pay for my own insurance. People need to buy their own damn insurance and stay out of my wallet.

[shamickgaworski]

well, the private medicine now takes 100% pay and some, so you ain't scaring anyone with the 1/2 of our pay.

Get sick, get bancrupt - NONE OF THIS becasue of your fault - and then talk about how "GREAT" it is and how "Horrible" it will be ... if gov takes over.

[SeanersRocks]

hahah, nice. "yeah, he's right there." great.

[tomolini]

Brilliant !

[Toastishott]

In Texas, if you tell someone to get off your property and they don't move, you are allowed to shoot them.

[SeattleCritic]

In Texas, do they should themselves in the head, if they have a stubborn headache ?

[revolutionaryverse]

lol word fail

[EscapePodFilms]

Nice!

[cks1001]

well, technically this is incorrect. With our current healthcare system, if it was an emergency ( as this symbolizes) a person still receives full healthcare. What our current system doesn't cover is say a robber who has made threats to rob the house. , if you will.

[SeattleCritic]

Property crime doesn't really symbolizes an emergency,since it doesn't put the human life in danger. Some houses are located in neighborhoods that are susceptible to periodic theft and robbery, so that does symbolises a chronic condition.

[cks1001]

True enough, but I don't think that was the point of the video. The point was to make our current healthcare system look stupid and I responded with a sensible argument as to why our health care system is not. Really had nothing to do with what u said.

[fortnightproductions]

thats what were coming to

[Tsukae]

Loved it!!