Berg: "Lulu" Suite / Prohaska · Abbado · Berliner Philharmoniker

[DaCapo2010]

This girl can sing and her voice is wonderful. This is probably the best Lied der Lulu I've heard yet.

[ireneetull]

Lulu is narcissus ?

[ichiroku]

blah blah blah. i like it so i watch it.

if you don't like it don't watch it, or don't pay to see a concert with berg.

[LesbianStraightGay]

Splendid.

[dakwa1]

Not only is she one of the best female singers of today, you can tell she actually enjoys this as well! Fantastic voice!

[Mazarbul]

@ThoughtsofaPerson That's a little too general as for a definition, isn't it. Don't you have a better dictionary? One has to define "organised" as well, since there definitely are different levels of organisation.

[LesbianStraightGay]

@Mazarbul It really saddens me that some people tell me that some music that I enjoy is not music. You see many positive comments that express genuine admiration for this video and still you decide to write that this is not music.Strangely enough that thing happens almost in any "avantgarde" shoutbox even if a composer is not well-known. Moreover, people in the internet who blame "avantgarde" are very persistent in what they do as if there is a competition between "traditional" and "new" music.

[LesbianStraightGay]

@Mazarbul I would also like to say that personally I enjoy Berg and Webern much more than, say, Bach or Mozart. I used to listen only to Mozart and it seemed to me that this music lacked some qualities that I adore, so I made some research and stumbled upon Webern. This music had all the qualities that I had been trying to find. Actually atonality is not a new thing: Carlo Gesualdo, for instance, is atonal in the very formal understanding of this term and even dissonant in some cases.

[LesbianStraightGay]

@Mazarbul The last but not the least is that there are really no rules in music. There can be only some vague SUBJECTIVE CONTEXTUAL aesthetic rules that depend on the artist and can be very different. As John Cage showed us every sound and every combination of sounds can be defined as beautiful. Music, by the way, is nothing but a number of proportions and successions of pitches and timbres on a timeline.

[danbodsop]

SUBLIME

[ambermum]

Anna is my husband's cousin and a lovelier person you could never meet. She is a prodigious talent but incredibly modest and down to earth. Brava, Anna!

[gera1262]

@Mazarbul True those composers were great artists. But they are long gone, they don't really capture the modern values and urges of our society. This music better suits the world we have carved out.

However, for all the harmonic oddities of modern music, you can blame Wagner, he really took the first step in to modern music.

[Mazarbul]

@gera1262 It must be a very chaotic world that we've created then...

[TheWeinkoenig]

perfect, will be interesting to follow her voice in future

[nordfriese81]

excellent diction and interpretation



[Obstructions]

cello player to far left. Hot.

[ElTGV]

There is really a place for this music. Berg was a great composer. Better than Schönberg, IMO. His violin concerto and Wozzeck have a place in my heart, next to e.g. the Hohe Messe and Parsifal. It's not easy music, but you can learn to understand it better. First of all, read the text along with the music. Berg tried to express a lot in these notes. The singing itself is a bit difficult, but the accompaniment is quite expressive.

And there are worse orchestras than the Berliner to listen to...

[physphilmusic]

@Mazarbul And finally, concerning wanting to cut the composer's throat, I actually do not disagree with you. In fact, that may indeed be a major element of Berg's, as well as many other modern composers', genius (though I think Berg is pretty mild compared to some others): who else can make you want to cut his throat SO BADLY? Can you compose for me music which makes me want to cut your throat? I'm unsure. Most likely, I'd just fall asleep feeling bored.

[physphilmusic]

@Mazarbul And I actually think these modern compositions are more realist and down to earth, since they actually kind of reflect the horrible things which have happened in the 20th century. Tchaikovsky has his place in my musical menu, but at times he seems to serve only as a kind of drug to momentarily delude ourselves in a rosy 19th century romantic world which doesn't exist anymore.

[physphilmusic]

@Mazarbul Perhaps, Mazarbul, the orchestra actually enjoys playing this music as well. You do not need to pity the orchestra; on the other hand, many people would pity you. As for why I profoundly disagree with you concerning music like this, suffice it to say that after hours of Bach, Beethoven, Brahms, Bieber and Bon Jovi, and I genuinely relish the screams and dissonances of Berg and Boulez.

[qwe07]

@Mazarbul Just to note, you do state "as long as they're not insulting others," referring to expressing feelings. But your original comment states "all I want to do is to cut the composers' throat." This contradiction doesn't help your case, in my opinion. I'm not weighing in on the music, just your argument on how opinions should be expressed.

[morvil73]

But should it be possible. First of all, Anna Prohaska isn' really moving that much. It's a big concert hall and the camera's obviously doing a close up. Secondly "Lulu" is an operatic part which in my opinion calls for more vocal, physical and facial expressiveness, even in concert, than a Bach cantata. I prefer a moving singer if it helps him/her produce a sound and performance as lush as this one!

[morvil73]

You try an do that without moving ;-)

[FloripanoBR]

@morvil73 Well, I think it's possible. The first examples that come to my mind are two youtube videos Bach's "Erbarme dich", one interpreted by Delphine Galou and the other by Julia Hamari. The first moves very fluidly, but the ginger stays beautifully (even though a little scarily) still.

[FloripanoBR]

Isn't she moving a little too much?

[mobile507]

*carefully sets tuba mute down*

[seponvi]

excellent voice

[wagneristhebest]

enchanting phil!