Current state of hip hop PT_8

[bavo123]

Can anyone please tell me the name of the instrumental at 9:06?

[varner414]

Mike Jones was wrong, it was a playboy against america

[ashley722911]

ppl are taking this way to serious, hip-hop is there for entertainment thats it!!!! It's just music if you don't like don't listen or buy it... point.blank.period... songs are writtin stories of a mirror image of what someone has gone through.... How The Hell Can Blame Hip-Hop For America's Problems....

[199rem]

you how yyou gayy jee

[PrinceG28]

one question to any of those "rappers/artist". When was the last time you produced a song of Unity ?

[mizundrstod]

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T LISTEN OR BUY IT. ME PERSONALLY, I USE TO LIKE RAP AND HIP HOP BUT AS I GOT OLDER MY INTEREST HAVE CHANGED.

[sora41333]

its not hip hop it's BIG BUSINESS, dont let them control you!

[9thWorldEnt]

if a woman listens to a song and gets offended by a rapper sayin bitches and hoes all the time she must feel guilty. if you aint a hoe or a bitch then there is no need to be offended

[anassumaila1]

we need somebody like tupac n KRS one to respond to the questions,not some lame ass money rappers

[15551cue]

@anassumaila1 true that,

[tubelightx]

Nelly is one deluded fool!

[Bellcasus]

@tubelightx NO He Not Fool. u Miss Interpret Of What He Sayin Bitch

[tubelightx]

@Bellcasus I don't think so but go on then explain it to us!

[Iluv2bblk]

yeah white men do call there women out there names

[dwightsyett]

Black people are getting PIMPED AND PLAYED!!!! They are being used for there great talent and gifted for the devils work. We have and always will be known to be a very religious people. Back in Africa befor slavery, when there was no White mans religion. Black people would express there reigous beliefs threw MUSIC, DRUMS, BEATS! THESE THEN WERE DIRECTED TO GOD! But since slavery to keep us under the foot of the white man, he has tooken our gifts and enslaved us in them....

[FGAlele]

I think there DEF coulda been better rappers or better yet 'Hip-Hop' artists on the panel then Nelly,Mike Jones, and T.I. HOWEVER, at the end of the day BET selected the artists that they felt at ' that' period of time would 'draw' in the highest number of viewers that care or probably couldn't care less about the 'current state' of Hip-Hop pop-ular music. At the END of the day...BET should have never been made responsible of holding an important discussion of this magnitude.

[BigTek9]

Where's Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Immortal Tech, Dead Prez, Common, NAS, KRS-One,

Lupe Fiasco, and Rakim... You wanna talk socially concious hip hop how about talking to socially concious artists. Closest they got was Chuck D because lets not forget P.E. used to open shows surrounded by guys in full fatigues and mock uzis promoting guerrilla warfare for social equality and true freedom.

[NoTlAw]

Hey does anyone know the name of the song at the very beginning of this video?

[ziegljs]

Did yall fucking hear that shit that andre said!!!! I did research on hip hop and all the sources said that hip hop started by dj's noticing that people DANCED during the part of the song where the beat broke down. Then out of THAT came the rap and lyricm of hip hop. So how is bringing it back to the vibe and dance part killing hip hop. Isn't that just bringing hiphop back to where it started?

[MsTremaineNeverson85]

for real everybody wanna talk about disrespecting women and wat not shit without experience there would be no words if some chicks wasnt actin like hoes and bustin it wide open for these rappers these dudes wouldnt be sayin the shit they sayin

[tdbrown88tdb]

damn ol girl slayed their asses lol

[PinkLotus879]

What the hell is Mike Jones doing there ?????????

[popedaniels]

@PinkLotus879 lol

[ExodusPessoa]

There was no Playboy against America great point. White culture has license to get away with more stuff than black culture. Hugh Hefner and Nelly are essentially doing the same thing. Hugh Hefner gets away with it and Nelly doesn't.

[solo13th]

@ExodusPessoa There was a huge backlash against Hugh Hefner and Playboy in the 1970s by the whole the feminist and womens movements,look it up.

[Emelda02charles]

@ExodusPessoa Even with playboy, white women are still respected and seen as the epitome of beauty.These rap artist are potraying ugly images of us. I live in England and the only people you see with soccer stars are white women, the only soccer stars with black women are the African players and that is 1% to 99%. You can easily see a black male celebrity with white women, how many foreign (non-black) male celebrity get down with black females?????.

[ExodusPessoa]

There was no Playboy against America great point. White culture has license to get any with more stuff than black culture. Hugh Hefner is allowed to do what Nelly is not fact!!!

[gabo802]

this is why every other nation view our black women as nothing more than freaks. they watch BET and listen to our hip hop music more than anything and we bad mouth them and take their clothes off and make them shake they ass in vids. grow the fuck up. you wanna change something, its a better way than to rap about it while glorifying it. its noting anything wrong to them, its kool! its nobody fault but our's at this point. we the ignorant one's who think the shit kool. get the fuck out here wit

[mracetheking1]

@blakphantom ight thats was up.

[mracetheking1]

@blakphantom homie, if u from where i from u gonna understand where im gettin my thoughts. they dont force us to make real dirty south muuzik white people can do many things to us Mexicans and Blacks! except c in my side of tha city, 1 cop dies everyday. and its usually white cops.

[mracetheking1]

@blakphantom cuz in the south its true!

[mracetheking1]

screw hip hop! Houston Rap still keeps it all real like they did be4 fake rappas like Lil Wayne And eminem came in, be4 fake white people got into rap! it sucks today! theres only a handful of trill gangstas left in Rap! T.I. and all the Houstonian Rappers still keep it trill!

[SuperMe4lyfe]

This was bullshit. I'm black and am deeply pissed off with my ppl especially those in the hip hop communit. Hip hop is dead.End of story. I don't want an argument, cuz I done that too much on Youtube and and I now view it as pointless trying to enlighnten someone over a fucking computer. Thats it. I'm done.

[ToateUsernameOcupate]

i want my subliminal fast 4:57

[MsoyRgal]

مسوي رجال !!

[mccoy1303]

I don't know why you are all so surprised at these "rappers" Responses. History has shown, a nigger that benefits from his master more than others. Will Defend Their Master at any Cost. Even their Souls.. That's why you don't see Black Cops protesting against Police Brutality. They Benefit more than others from their Master. "masa Mo' ben good to me and anyone tryna leev I'm Tellin!"..lol

[stickywickedy]

Is the moderator implying hip hop is only worthy when black people can enjoy it?

Race doesn't matter, it's about music, i listen to hip hop all the time, is that wrong because i'm not black?

This show has a pretty strong racial undertone which isn't correct, no matter how you twist it.

[MeTheIsh]

@stickywickedy Well the thing is white folks are buying hip hop music that reflects a negative image upon the black community. he's not saying it's not worthy. seeing as white suburbia would see it as entertainment, when really it's embarrasing. Basically its the worry of the world just looking at african americans as trashy ignorant people when really not all of us arent.

[stickywickedy]

@MeTheIsh

I know what you mean but it's the listener who should see through the stereotype.

This doesn't always happen which is why people are worried about the impact of hip hop. As long as people keep dividing people into categories and exclusive "communities" instead of people being individuals, racial tensions are always gonna be around.

[lostperras]

ve a platicar con tu puta madre

[EbonyDollable]

is stanely crouch awake?

[gabo802]

how the hell is rappin bout bitches, hoes, rims, gold, etc letting people know whats going on.. no other race of people call their women hoes and bitches, the white man not doing that you are. if u really wanna let people know whats going on,lol you would not be rapping bout the things you rap about, and these dumb ass people in there clapping. im so disappointed in my people. wonder why they look at us like fuckin animals man.y'all wake up please. people stop buying that garbage!!mind control

[Sagefrakrobatik]

@gabo802 One of the realest songs I heard about life in the inner city is a song called "All that I got is you" By Ghostface Killah.

[TJ347]

@gabo802 I'm not a fan of today's hip-hop, but you've got to be kidding. No other race of people call their women hoes and bitches? Yeah, okay! You need to make more friends of other races. And rapping about the things SOME of these rappers rap about is letting people know what's going on where their from. Common's "The Corner" is a good example. There's more than enough enough garbage in rap without us lumping good stuff in there with it is all I'm saying.

[gabo802]

@TJ347 save that bs. these are the very people that can change it instead of rapping about it. I do have friends of all races and not that I need to,watch videos and listen to music, its glorified in our communtity so dont be ignorant and point out a few times its happened in other races.they are not rapping about it likes it wrong,lol they're rapping about it like they the shit cuz they doing it.killing,fucking hoes,buying diamonds, that was a very ignorant statement.

[TJ347]

@gabo802 Bullshit music is clearly what the public wants to hear these days. Rappers are supposed to make intellectual music when the public isn't buying it? Then you ignore that "sex, drugs and rock n' roll" didn't get the same criticism even though women paraded around half naked in every video put out by rock groups since rock groups started putting out videos. That's not "a few" examples from other races. And few rappers are killing anything but brain cells. Get your shit straight.

[LoveHugsnHipHopSoul]

@gabo802 You didn't really watch this, did you?

[eriblood]

@gabo802 Amen!!

[jarvisthebox]

@gabo802 fuck travis porter , soulja boi , waka flaka , gucci mane , roscoe dash , and all the other no talent idiots destroying us.

[NAQW]

@gabo802 please, White men call their women bitches and sluts ( hoes) as well.

[medit84truth]

@gabo802 "no other race of people call their women hoes and bitches, the white man not doing that you are."

What planet do you live on? You mean to tell me you never heard a white man call another white woman a slut, bitch, whore, etc. You must not hang around white folk. Also, what about the porn they produce? I understand your concern for black people to have respect for one another, but you actually worsen the esteem of our people by asserting that such behavior is exclusive to us.

-Peace

[funkateer17]

@medit84truth White recording artists generally don't say that shit in their songs. If they did, the media would humiliate the, calling them "white trash". For some reason they don't do that with black artists. Maybe they're scared to. Maybe they're just being inadvertantly racist, preuming it's a cultural thing that all black people do.

[Chuchi90sBaby]

@medit84truth Agreed. 

[gabo802]

mike jones full of shit, u aint spitting shit, they not talking bout what they talking bout cuz the media hiding it.lol thats funny the media dont hide how triflin we are as black people, they dont hide what they think about us at all, they glorify what u glorify for our negative

[cisseusa123]

Mike Jones you fucking hypocrite. "Letting people know" by showing ass shaking, rims, chains, diamonds, cars etc...? That's letting us know what's really going on? Get the hell outta here with that BS.

[3089280288]

A Rap promoter told me that when it comes to music, you can't get any lower than rap.

[stitchmorg]

how can you argue for hip hop? its obvious what its about, dont try and say its about something else, when you talk about killing people, white folks, gold teeth, booty, and rims. Sorry you did it, now own up to it

[2PaulMokur]

andre was absolutely right... hip hop started wit djs and rappers spitting playful rhymes ova a track..thats where hip hop started..it was a big party....conscious rappers came after

[90mv]

I swear the audience are just agreeing with nelly just because its its nelly i agree with that lady in the pink

[Joesexy424]

this is pissing me off for real, prostitution has been around forever, why are they acting like this shit is new? white people do it in the form of escorts and who protests to that? we really need to stop victimizing ourselves and just accept that as long as there are women, there WILL be a pimp, and there WILL be the hoes, and it WILL be in the poorer districts...look at india; rappers just put in their videos because thats what is profitable and what they know about prostitution

[finglian]

how come dead prez wasnt in any of these.put some real people on the subject not money hungry sellouts.

[reppntime]

@finglian I agree or put somebody like Lupe Fiasco, Nas on the stage that will represent hip-hop fa sho!

[SuperOmnicron]

@finglian ...hell yeah, where was Dead Prez, Prodigy of Mobb Deep, Immortal Technique...i mean, for real..where was Mos Def?

[15551cue]

@finglian don't forget krs-one

[BiggussDikkus]

...nobody is against party rap. People are against SUCK-ASS faggot rappers like ANDRE 3000!!!

[EWCMILK]

there are not talking about the underground artist that keep it real

[stone1free1]

@EWCMILK yea their not but becuz they arent an issue. the underground does GOOD things. only the industry is being addressed here becuz there is obviously a problem with it and the way it works in its portrayal of black and rap music altogether on its ultimate quest to make as much money as possible

[reppntime]

@EWCMILK you are right for example Immortal technique also Tech N9NE he go hard.........

[Acin101]

At the end of the day I think it's our fault (the fans) why hip-hop is the way it is because, instead of us thinking outside the box, we rather feed on what is giving to us. You chose to buy and listen to these rappers who only talk about negative stuff. Until we as a people understand that these corporate businesses are going to keep pushing this negative rap as long as we're buying into it and as long as they're making money off it. If we don't start supporting positive artist.

[pacman116]

@captainofyourstarshi when hip hop first started the lyrical content of it was nothing like it was now. The mc wasnt even wat people would come to see , it was the dj mc which means master of ceromonies was basically the host of the party.

[fmcneillii]

@pacman116 honestly even the first rap song was lyrically better than todays rap.. but raps supposed to be better than the past its not

[RalphMFlores1]

Nelly is one of the stupidist advocator's I've ever heard. He did a discredit to making any sense at all. "Greed, Pleasure and Power .... You know what I'm saying."

[courmask]

yah BITCHES N NIGAS hip hop has never lost its essence

[TheStrawbeery]

@courmask hip hip is dead it's forever lost in terms of being on the radio the underground might be alive but mainstream hip hop is dead R.I.P

[Khonsu1212]

that ridiculous, MIKE JONEs the mdeia doessnt hide what hip hop displays it perpetuate negative stereotypes about black ppl: criminality, Ghetto, etc>>>...anyone!?!

[dboypimp101]

check my channel and subscribe me y'all. i'm still doing my thing.

[201stars]

see they handin out record deals to kids with no talent so thier forced to listen to w.e everyone says b.c they dont have talent on thier own to say no this is wrong imma do me.

[etaylorgroup00]

any thing to imbark on business ifused with personal hate

hiphhop is like the movies you have your adult viewers that wanna know

whats out there no matter how crazy or good and others that just like entertainment

some are just business men obveously the things thats troubling avery one is

going on in the world sex money and murder tomorrow straight and inlighting

etaylorgroup

published works

[datgeoboii]

"i go to strip clubs, i like to have fun" Mike jones

Great Line LMAO

[blakefeeldz1]

they keep sayin theyre makin this music for white kids in the suburbs(like thats ok)  as if inner-city youth arent listening to it or being infuenced by it. the only difference is theres bootleggers in the hood.

[Talmadge33]

These rappers are fucking ignorant and only see their side of the debate. They need to be held to task. They are wrong and are the enemy of the black community

[niabdir]

these guys are in the industry for personal gains and to pursue their self interests in making money...they are not really thinking about the impact their words and actions are having on the larger community. just listen to what the princeton professor says 4:13.

[mohaghanyfarrjones]

Um...this bitch is fat unattractive & bitter....her comment @ 7:10 confirms her envy/jealousy/hate

[cisseusa123]

@mohaghanyfarrjones she's speaking the damn truth.

[RealHipHopTunes]

true what andre said, hip hop started in the parties around the streets of south bronx new york

[nsp804rich]

Hit em over the head with a flashlight....not really funny but dat was funny!!!!

[CawFanMan]

That older Gentleman is makeing some powerful points (the man with the afro)

[masterkudjo]

There is a problem here, the black lady saying its about mind control needs to remember that allot of woman deep down want to look the same way these girls do in these hip hip videos. Im not saying its a good thing, its just what I think.

[1gremlins2]

@masterkudjo the only reason why women want to look like the girls in the music videos are BECAUSE of the videos that constantly tell us that lightskinned women are more desirable, it manipulates us, and we aspire to look like the people in the video. think she has a very valid point, the media does manipulate and mind control us to a certain degree

[fmcneillii]

@1gremlins2 Come on thats life tho. You mean women dont have the ideal attractive male. 6ft, caramel to light skinned, well endowed? You mean to tell me women the only ones feelin pressured. Men have preferences now days cuz women been having them. SO its fair game.

[1gremlins2]

@fmcneillii we all have our preferances. the point im makin is that 'subconsciously' the media plays a part as to what we are attracted to. back in the 1970s DARK SKIN was embraced and people were much more proud of their dark skin. now the media portray mainly lightskinned females..all of a sudden everyone wants a lightskin woman. without realising it, the media changes our attitudes and how we view each other, weather u think its fair or not, media influences our perception

[fmcneillii]

@1gremlins2 Maybe you're darkskin and that why you believe that because blacks have never all embraced any particular color back then. That stupid. we embraced being black FYI being blk does not equal darkskin. (yes i kno pure africans r dark) Reality is for 100s of yrs blacks have been coming out light and different shades so stop acting like preferring either shade is wrong or Politically incorrect because fact is half blacks are light skin which means blk men see their light skin and dark..

[1gremlins2]

@fmcneillii im not darkskin black so please dont try assume anything about me. YES women like tall men that is true.this is natural,. but when the media start using light skin women in the videos its only natural that people start to aspire to what we see. & I didnt say it was wrong or right, i made a comment agreeing that the media plays a part as to what fashion, looks, skin color we consider sexy, cool or desirable.not saying its right or wrong and i didnt say its the main cause.

[tobelina]

@fmcneillii dont mean to barge in on the convo but ur assumptions are a bit ignorant..pardon me. im not tryin to insult you. its good to talk about stuff like this. what the mr gremlin was sayin about preferences is correct. its evident in everything you see. if you market light skinned models because they sell you are inadvertedly sending out a status message which tells the consumer that the model they are marketing is desirable. MARKETING 101 businesses live by that creed.

[fmcneillii]

@tobelina You not gteting what I said. I said thats no different for anything. its not like skin color is the end all be all with regards to preferences. ITs freaking old and people need to get over it. So what, these are not rapper's videos they are they are the ownership of the company they work for. Why even get into what color the women are beside they obviously there because they beautiful. Also what proof you have of more lightskin video girls. Show me stats.

[fmcneillii]

@tobelina If we start doing that. why not us take it further and say we should have just as many disabled people marketed as desirable as able people? Why do we only care about our feelings and emotions but whatever others deal with we could care less. Which is my point. There always people being left out thats the truth. These people have worst self esteem issues to deal with than any black person has over their shade. Thats real shit.

[tobelina]

@fmcneillii they shade thing has been evident since europeans started stealing shit from people and dividing africa amongst the respective kingdoms. the rwandan genocide happened because of a system of self discrimination and labelling the dutch empire put in place during the colonial times. black natives with wider noses and thicker lips were given lower statuses than black natives with smaller pointed noses and thinner lips.

[fmcneillii]

@tobelina Also we are NOT african we are american! we r black americans and personally we should have BEEN over this color talk. Find a freaking solution (otherwise move on) so we can get to real problems like our educational and poverty issues. Color is not a real issue. Personally KNOW I like skin color myself and all that. it not necessarily like I like a particular shade but we all find any thing related to particular features attractive. Why complain about realities like that?

[fmcneillii]

@tobelina Also you know why I wish we stop talking about color? Cause it always come back to us arguing over whats the real color of "black" and no matter what it never the right shade. WHY because we dont have a shade. Never had one (yes we used to b dark but even then they had difference in darkness) . The more we keep identifying differences based on color the more colorism there will be. You cnt expect lightskin ppl to be like "light is bad, dark is gud" when theyre light and vice versa.

[tobelina]

@fmcneillii very good. the colour thing is an issue as much as youd like to get over it. you cant expect to move foreward if a solution has not being found. thats called an imbalanced equation. it is frustrating. i know. the colour thing is also an example of how capitalist mentalities influence and play victim to its own processes. if you catch my drift. white models are discriminated against. the chick with the flattest ass gets the jobs. with black girls it rabges from big ass to lighter skin

[tobelina]

@fmcneillii as i said before. MARKETING 101. me myself i am a Nigerian but i live in England, have done for the past 10 years and during that time ive seen and heard even black kids take the piss out of other black kids for being too dark. all over the world there are cosmetics substances created for skin bleaching and the largest consumers of that happen to be black people. you tell me if that is not the medias influence?

[tobelina]

@fmcneillii duno who argues about the real colour of BLACK. i think the point mr gremlin is trying to say is that the media places emphasis on these trivial things because it sells. subliminally these marketing schemes are designed to create a demand in the consumers mind. its effect is more profound than your willing to admit. it happens everyday! not just to black people, europeans, aboriginees asians, native AMERICANS. everyone! realising that it is an issue is education and thus a solution

[tobelina]

@fmcneillii bringing it back to hip hop...any form of music is a representation of the artists life, experiences and dreams. hip hop is a mirror reflection of what happens in our communities. the reason it sells is because people relate to music. further more they relate to pain. businesses see this and exploit it identify a formula and replicate. the ordinary black man wanting to make it sees opportunity and goes. the business has there performing monkey. profitting from this.

[fmcneillii]

@tobelina Idk but I think gremlin is a female actually. But okay i'm speaking from the artist's view and alot of the real MC's dont care either way. like nas his muusic has nothing to do with light or dark but his video may have all white models. It doesnt mean nas is trying to say white is better because he really isn't making a music video he made the song in a studio for several months. They call him and he spend ten minutes doing the video the company sets up for him.

[fmcneillii]

@tobelina I have seen it before. Even on the internet go to BOSSIP.com and find any article or whatever they have talking about skin color which is posted almost every week. Its always someone (or more realistically some groups) who hates their own people based on color. from both sides. And all they ever wanta do is talk the other side down. I wish we could stop doing that and be happy and supportive. I dont mind if we find a solution an move on. But its been a WHILE we been talkin in shades

[fmcneillii]

@1gremlins2 sisters and know what they like. Let me ask you are women conditioned to like tall men? what about women who prefer men who r much more endowed than avg ( according to stats 80% of men are less than 6inches erect; avg being 6-7)? shouldn't women prefer whats more naturally occurring among men? Why is it men should have to like any particular woman anyway? Im tired of women talking about how if we like some shade of females it must mean we hate blk women...even wen the females r blk.

[fmcneillii]

@1gremlins2 which is why i rarely let ppl know what i like either way u get accused of things like being self-hating. Like really? Even read an article accusing Jay-z of only being colorstruck because the women(some) he WORKS with were LS and he happen to marry B. yet rarely does he ever express a preference(not that it matter), and in the past has dated several darker women. Thats why brothers date interracial now cuz dating a sista (DS/LS) u get criticized worse. sry for goin on tho lol.

[1gremlins2]

@fmcneillii were not talking about height, endowment. were strictly talking about skin colour and im sayin that media perpetuates these stereotypes.. i dont see any problem with darkskin dudes dating lightskin women, dont get it twisted. im not BLAMING media. and im not going to argue with you because its not constructive, youre misunderstanding my point

[fmcneillii]

@Im simply saying alot of it natural. Not the fact that men prefer either color but the fact that preferences occurs. always has with men and women it souldn't affect how women view themselves and make them feel less than. We should be focusing on that than how many lightskin ppl get lead roles in garbage rap videos. I'm not even sure there are more lightskin females starring these vids. I wouldn't know cuz i barely watch them. I rather hiphop go back to there roots(pre 2000) take the girls out.

[fmcneillii]

@1gremlins2 simply saying alot of it natural. Not the fact that men prefer either color but the fact that preferences occurs. always has with men and women it souldn't affect how women view themselves and make them feel less than. We should be focusing on that than how many lightskin ppl get lead roles in garbage rap videos. I'm not even sure there are more lightskin females starring these vids. I wouldn't know cuz i barely watch them. I rather hiphop go back to there roots take the chics out

[MistaM08]

subliminal messaging ?? 4:58

[kennboy1]

lol

[smrkmusicgroup]

why aren't the PEOPLE WHO BUY THIS SHIT held accountable. too many people blame the corporations who market this shit or the artists who make the shit. if no one was buying this shit then they would make nore wrapped it up and sell this shit. lets open up our eyes. its not the big wig corporations or the "industry" its the masses buying this garbage. i blame the people buying this shit. so stop picketing and harrassing the corporations or the artists. lets look at the CONSUMERS!!!!!! FFS!

[kennboy1]

Lets look at both. Both are too blame, we can put too much blame on the consumers, cant put to much on the industry. Both have to be held accountable.

[kennboy1]

can't put too much blame on the consumers*

[thirdshift47]

I agree,with hightened corporate consolidation we're obviously in desperate need of consumer advocates in the US,but I think that the consumption of cultural products in our society is quite different from the consumption of market products indispensable with survivial,e.g.,food,water,hous­ing,etc.

The dull masses definitely get what we pay for,in terms of the money we spend,the ratings we spike &,most importantly,allowing Corporate communications to gradually buy up the public airwaves.

[ani1616]

@smrkmusicgroup You hit the spot my brother that is my theory also if people stop buying this shitt it will stop. Love from Sierra leone

[maksimgus]

mike jones is a MORON. GOODNESS GRACIOUS

[captainofyourstarshi]

this is bullshit- andre said "it was never like you gotta be a conscious rapper" WHAT!!!! are you kidding me? back then you needed talent just to be a rapper- and rappers were teaching- now they just makin money off stupid shit!

[SilverNrGy985]

exactly these days its all a marketing scheme, brands and corporations being advertised in rap videos, women,jewelries.... fuck capitalist Hip hop!!!

[rayray4086]

@captainofyourstarshi SUGAR HILL GANG - RAPPER'S DELIGHT proves ANDRE's point. I'm mad that nobody is addressing the INDUSTRY. The industry destroys are music for profits and nobody says a damn thing about it to any CEO of Sony or Universal or any of those labels.

[ZOMBIErxPrescription]

Yeah but you gotta understand he sold out, or bought in. Which ever you like haha

[MrBlackmask27]

@captainofyourstarshi forreal

[mightyblack1]

@captainofyourstarshi Andre 3000 is a coon and the rest of them rappers will do anything to make a dollar,shame on the bammas.This image is to entertain white folks now as rappers as news reporters,please give me a brake,all they do is brag about the violence and get a check for it.

[YoungCeas]

@captainofyourstarshi No disrespect, but I think what Dre3000 meant was that Hip Hop didn't start as a conscious art form (ie, Common, Jay-Electronica types). The first Hip Hop records were all party records like "Rappers Delight" and "That's the Joint." It wasn't until the mid-late 80's and 90's when lyrics, flow and wordplay were the main focus. People like to use the AfrikaBambata/Rakim/KRS-One/Wu­-Tang era as "Real Hip Hop" but hip hop started before that. Is Rappers delight not real hip hop?

[YoungCeas]

@captainofyourstarshi Now don't get me wrong. I completly agree with you. There is some wack nonsense out there. Wacka Flacka, for example lol. But like Dre 3000 said, Prior to the teaching, pro black, lyrical, gangsta eras of hip hop, It was all about having fun, and parting. Hip Hop has to evolve. Like basketball. If basketball would've stuck to it's fundamentals of Bob Cousey, and Bill Russel, there would've been no kareem, no MJ etc. Same with rap. There'd be no Rakim or Nas w/o evolution.

[2PaulMokur]

@captainofyourstarshi those who u consider to be conscious rappers back in the 80s when hip hop become popular, started off by making party music. most popular example is COMMON...andre is right hip hop started as one big party music withplayful rap battles amongst various rappers. Example:tupac always a conscious individual since he was in high school but he expressed himself wit songs like "the case of the missed place mic." pac's conscious expression came after all that

[cisseusa123]

@captainofyourstarshi if you think about it he's right.

[keybobrob]

i know that you posted this comment several months ago...but I just had to give you a thumbs up on what you said about Andre...he clearly doesn't get it! In fact ultimately, the only thing to really focus on in this entire "dialogue" is what Dr. West said in this clip @4:13. If you dont COMPLETELY get what he layed out (in as simple terms as he could have possibly done) then there is no need 2discuss this any further.The book the "Lord of the flies" can be viewed as a great correlation to this.

[makado1980]

atl suckss!!! face it andre your ok but ATl do snap and pop

[Sileni]

Oh yeah. Because its ALL about GANGSTA shit? ---Fuck outta here, tired of your or other peoples arguments regarding the souths party music.

Oh yeah, EVERYBODY wants to be bombarded with conscience rap music....I want party not how bad said rapper can or have fucked up another nigga wearing a different color. Get off our nuttsack nigga!

[makado1980]

@Sileni dude /chic or whoever you are ... i wrote that like a year ago... its cool you wanna party but (most) of the south rappers IQ levels are non existant causing our kids to be exposed to ignorance like gucci mane and most of dem atl dudes ... and you say Gansta RAP? wtf is trap music and jeezy then? so get da fuck outta here with shit like that cus nobody said it should be all about gangsta rap .. listen to cornell west part of the video and maybe you'll be enlightened or maybe not..

[playajaydaboss]

u like gold teeth and stupid rap about the trap ?

[free2djdre]

i agree wit dre but these rappers are gettin rich on the expense of our childrens minds

[CALICOTV301]

It's an equal trade.

It's one of the most cheapest forms of entertainment.

Ex.

If you pay $50 at six flags...that last for only that day.

When you can pay $12.99 for a cd and it keeps them entertained as long as they have the cd.

[houseofjrk]

Andre I agree with what you said