Jimmy Pedro and Rhadi Ferguson talk about new IJF Rules

[pcjudosambo]

When IJF implemented this rule, thousands if not hundreds of thousands Judokas world-wide left Judo and went into BJJ and Sambo where the rules evolve towards positive not negative. I hope they don't renew the rules in 2012.

[sonnych69]

its a power trip by removing certain moves u are destroying the art in itself they are trying to stay away from the grappling but it is a part of judo . the newaza spawned bbj of today .. just strip everything away and leave only one throw . you making the sport boring and elimnianting the essence of what kano wanted it to be

[702decatur]

@sang9768 You're an idiot that's not why they changed the rules. It's just how your dumbass views change.

BJJ and wrestling have their own sports if you want to play that then go. Judo has it's main focus on throwing and exposing the back to the mat.

No BJJ guy or wrestler will ever win a Olympic medal in Judo it will never happen. But do you know there are many Judo players whom have won BJJ world titles.

[saltyseaweed]

@702decatur

Many judokas won BJJ world titles? Like who?

[OVERCAPITALIZE]

@saltyseaweed Any BJJ won Judo world titles? 

[saltyseaweed]

@OVERCAPITALIZE I was asking 702decatur to prove his assertion that many judokas won BJJ title. I was not asserting any BJJ guy has won a judo world title (which, to my knowledge, nobody has).

[OVERCAPITALIZE]

@saltyseaweed I know, i was just wondering my self.

[BanSmooth]

I like the new rules, now the matches re more dinamic, there more winning by ippon and there is less negative judo.

[judopathoftruth]

no, you can attack the legs as a secondary attack.

[aliaspipi]

i hathe the new rules of judo

[gentjudo]

from now eastern states will stagnate in judo Fuck russia and serbia cuz thy are just fucking whores...xD. I am a champion of judo in my country.Did you heard about that "KOSOVO THE YONG EOUROPEAN'S"

[gentjudo]

New rules have affected eastern states to fall down, because they have ruin technical judo by mixed with wrestling. KOSOVA IS THE ONE.

[danielarlenecool]

So the powers that be have decided to move judo into obscurity as a sport. While other over rated disciplines such as BJJ become more popular b/c of MMA success. Judo will become less popular by punishing grappling skills and promoting certain body types (lanky). Stinks BIG TIME!

[turnbacktime]

you think BJJ is overated. a lot of wrestlers tell me that Judo is slightly superior to BJJ and far harder to master. is BJJ in the olympics now?

[Five5six]

Quite simply, the precept of judo according to KANO is 'Maximum Efficiency with Minimum Effort'. This violates that precept completely.

This is a punitive reaction to Naidan showing up and exposing all these Judoka's who don't have good training in how to counter that technique.

[IpponJudoTrueJudo]

CRYBABIES! Suck it up! I am overwhelmingly ecstatic about the new rules. About time! Judo has been manipulated & "adjusted" to accomadate those too lazy to put in the work to learn how to THROW. Keep Judo as it was intended 2 b by KANO. STAND UP & THROW! Do Judo! I hope all those wrestler types leave Judo. True Judoka will b happy 4 these rules. BTW - Seoinage is a THROW. Katagaruma is a "roll." USA & France always looking for the easy wins. Dam hypocrites. Lazy players. Stand & Throw!

[gavipk]

yeah, making basic fundamentals of grappling illegal is great for Judo.

I am so upset that people like you really believe the essence of Judo is not a grappling art but merely a 'throwing game'.

If leg grabbing techniques are so stupid, how come you need to make them illegal so they don't shut down your far-fetched throws?

Guess what? You don't deserve your awesome reaping throws if you can't pull them off without rigging the rules to make it easier for you. That's the truth.

[onegr8critic]

Oh BTW all you idiots who keep commenting on the Japanese changing the rules, do your dam reasearch! The Asians barely have any representation or strength in the IJF anymore. The politics and bullshit is being run by the Europeans you idiots! And for your info, I'M NOT EVEN ASIAN. Hehehehe I laugh at all you losers who make these ASSumptions. Please educate yourselves about Judo. Lazy leg grabbin' fools. Learn to THROW you assholes. Any monkey can run and tackle.

[xNewAgeWarriorx]

@IpponJudoTrueJudo grow some balls asshole taking away options that are still safe grappling is retarded...

[1000chuckp]

Kata Garuma is not being made illegal, the firemans carry style of Kata Garuma is outlawed. Kata Garuma is not performed from the knees with a rolling motion. It is about time that we move back to Judo and remove the wrestling, Sambo, and Jujitsu moves.

[pcjudosambo]

most Sambo moves and pretty much ALL BJJ moves were derived from Judo. These moves were inserted for a purpose (by Kano). Judo differs very much from Sambo/BJJ in the way the matches are ran and now banning these techniques simply sets Judo back. In the last 10-15 years Judo removed techniques NOT added new ones. The last technique they added was flying arm-bar, which they banned afterwords relatively quickly. While Judo is contractings, other martial arts like BJJ and Sambo are expanding.

[sorrynametaken999]

I guess I will be doing BJJ tournaments from now on. Unless there are going to be non-bastardized Judo matches.  Taking Kata Garuma out of Judo is like removing the jab from boxing.

[anon69]

I am very disappointed with the new rules. Unless they change this non-sense, I'm not really interested in competing in judo from now on.

[mmajunkie1000]

Looks like no MMA in my future with my Judo base. Sheesh.

[jkiser71]

"Judo is an evolving sport"

Ummm...no it isn't. It seems to be de-evolving...removing some of the original techniques Kano implemented is not evolution. At my dojo, we train the art of judo, not the sport. The sport is becoming a joke. BJJ is an evolving art, and at this point will leave judo far behind in my opinion

[rasnus2]

If this is true, I'm so-o-o-o glad I gave up 'sport' judo a few years back. Now I'm with a federation that allows training and fighting techniques that work - traditional and modern - and doesn't just focus on learning tricks to win half points in a match. In Kodokan judo, training and competition are simply a part of the way to become better at judo, but in IJF winning a shiny medal seems to be the main goal.

[Legolas79117129]

sooooo.... what does the 1 ref rule mean for hantei ?? Golden score untill you drop ?

[moonrunrs]

These new rules are STUPID! Judo is less a martial art now and more a weak sport with too narrow of a focus and too many rules in general. This is one of the reasons why Judoka don't do well in any other types of grappling contests or combat sports. Few techniques and emphasis on only one aspect of grappling. Just watched ADCC in Spain and wrestlers, BJJ, Sambo, Catch as Catch Can etc. do well. No pure Judokas. Some tried before and all got tooled - never made it to the big tournament.

[702decatur]

I guess you are not aware of players like Saulo taking Judo before he took Judo or Jacare having a black belt in Judo before Jujitsu.

There are many black belts in Judo who have world titles in BJJ but no BJJ person has ever won a Olympic medal in Judo.

[moonrunrs]

Yeah, I know about Saulo and Jacare. That's why I said "pure Judokas" == guys who ONLY do judo -- don't do well in other grappling events. However, guys with only a background in another grappling system have done well in events like ADCC and even mma.

[WarJudoka]

WTF?! This is too much. Might as well go back to freestyle wrestling.

[Senator94]

Judo has to much politics. WTF? I want to throw, slam, etc in Judo....

I hope BJJ doesn't become like this...opps it is already.

[SuperTiqris]

just because of alliance...

[TemporalFoosa]

I thought you could still hook the leg you just can't grab gi. I think it was in article 27 or something, it says kata guruma and morote gari are still legal with hand or arm hooks.

[hedges1]

you cant attack the legs that sucks its just like telling a boxer not to use his jab this is ughhhhh

[DragonOne1]

Listen brothers of Judo, tell the IJF to stuff it where they want to, we need to fight this to save the true beauty of Judo. This is an art and they are messing with it. This is not right.

[ihreid]

I think classical thowing judo is difficult to master compared with the grappling sambo/wrestling styles.These latter techniques, I feel, rely more on pure upper body strength and power and have become more common as they are easier to learnand apply for the less skillfull judoka. I beleive this ne w rule is a move in the right direction but will need careful reviewing.

[JitaKyoei123]

I don't think you have a good idea of what classical judo is, what about te guruma, and kata guruma was part of the original Gokyo.

Another thing judo is as easy as the person you are fighting.

[DragonOne1]

Judo is meant to be difficult to challenge the mind, body, and souls ability to work as one unit. You must strengthen them together to maintain balance. If you are good at Judo; you do not have to use any strength at all because it comes from your opponent. You are just redirecting it power to who it comes from. By well-trained movement, it makes ones' body as fluid as water. Look up a book about Mifune Kyuzo the only other 10th dan Black Belt who was a last remaining member of Kano Jigoro.

[Godsmasher22]

So is this an attempt to simply eliminate that which the governing bodies simply do not find to fit with their idea of Judo aesthetics? This seems like a sure way to slow the game down in a huge way.

[honest4truth]

They should make a freestyle judo, where sambo, BJJ and wrestlers can compete with little restrictions on throws or newaza.

another idea would be to have a no-gi judo tourney so it becomes more popular with the MMA crowd, for all i care, IJF can go **** themselves.

kataguruma is an important move used by kano which he learned from wrestling, so much for trying to preserve judo and block out other grapplers.

this is a stupid rule made by stupid people, what happened to judo as a combat sport ?

[mikey4u1984]

There is freestyle Judo and it is growing real fast, it is almost what you described.

[DragonOne1]

Sosai Kano Jigoro took nothing from wrestling, and I can contest this because I am an active student here in Tokyo at Kodokan and I have been here for 4 years. Judo is originally from Jiujitsu. I will tell you right now, with my skill I can take out any MMA fighter I have already proven so here in Japan. Judo is using your opponent's strength as a weapon to defeat them. That is why it is taught, "The only person who can defeat you is yourself." Prime lesson of Judo. Judo is an art, not a sport.

[honest4truth]

"Kanō had trouble defeating Fukushima Kanekichi, who was one of his seniors at the school. Therefore, Kanō started trying unfamiliar techniques on his rival. He first tried techniques from sumo. When these did not help, he studied more, and tried a technique ("fireman's carry") that he learned from a book on western wrestling. This worked, and kataguruma, or "shoulder wheel", remains part of the judo repertoire."

Since you have proven to beat MMA fighters, link to fight or pro record please ?

[DragonOne1]

Where did you find this information because I can go look at the scrolls here at Kodokan where I study. Secondly, my fight with an MMA fighter, was a club section meet up to show them the fluidity of a well trained practicioner of Judo. Of course for someone simple minded and has not harness the power of your mind of course you think you need to be a professional to defeat someone, like I said before, " use your opponents power, not your own." This is the essence of Judo.

[DragonOne1]

By the way, what book? You should also know that Sumo came from Judo, many of the arts here in Japan came from Jiujitsu which Kano made into a different form. He believe that Jiujitsu cause the usage of too much power from ones' self so he developed a discipline to use your opponent's attack to your advantage. Second, your outlook onb Kataguruma; you must have gotten some googled stuff from a garbage source. I will read the notes here at Kodokan's Library and translate it from Japanese for you.

[DragonOne1]

Furthermore, my friend you should check your sources. Remember, Judo came from Jiujitsu, so don't you think that there was a foundation for this technique, the technique was taken from Jiujitsu but like I said before used to much power so Sosai (Japanese for Founder) Kano made it easier to perform with less chance of personal injury.

[DragonOne1]

I tell you what, if you want to put your money where your mouth is, I will house you for entire month here in Japan so you can truly learn about the heart of Judo. As Sosai Kano believed, it is up to those of us who want the art of continue in its beauty to share such beauty with others in light and respect of the hospitality and courteous heart of the Japanese people.

[judomachine]

I'll take that housing offer!!!

If the offer is available for 2 weeks I'm down. I'd love to learn more about the art.

[honest4truth]

Sumo came from judo ?, what ?

Sumo was around before Kano's birth, stop being a judo elitist, and there is nothing wrong with borrowing moves from wrestling, kataguruma is known as the fireman carry as well.

and next time why dont you record a video of yourself beating a MMA fighters with 4 years of training in an MMA fight, put your money where your mouth is too.

now lets not get off on a tangent and agree the new rules are stupid, you can also house judomachine instead, i am through here.

[Fabyfakid]

WTF? Sumo came from Judo? are you serious?

[JustaEropeanGuy]

these rules are BS!

[pamphlex]

judo sounds more and more like an "evolving sport" but also looks like a dead martial art

[JitaKyoei123]

Judo has been a big part of my life for the last ten years, but if they do this I'm off to another grappling sport. Every Judoka I speak to hates all these new rules, just like the people on this comments page. They don't care about the people who make the sport, they'r just thinking about spectaters/money. Someone should start a petition or something, because this is a extremly unpopular idea.  They should also bring the ground game back into high class compititions by popular demand.

[JitaKyoei123]

Is their anyone reading this who likes these new rules, I don't want to argue, I just want to know if there's a single active Judoka out their who likes the way judo is going. Another thing if they want to see bigger throws why dont they just make it harder to score pionts.

I'am not even a big fan of leg grabs but this is the final straw for me.

[DragonOne1]

I fully agree, as I am currently in the middle of 20 pages of what seems to be an even longer email to the IJF about the true essence of Judo as I am studying it here in Japan. They really do not care about the true passion and art of Judo. They classify it as a sport. That pissed me off so bad. I am up for beginning a pettition. Let's bring back the real Judo the way it is supposed to be, the way Sosai (founder) Kano Jigoro meant for it to be.

[monji112000]

this is retarded.. lol more people for BJJ.

[lifeinkansas]

i hope judo does not go the route of International Wushu Rules where it loses many of martial aspects.

it sounds a little like they are looking for big throws and hard falls.

but perhaps it will go the way of fencing changing the amount of contact from .001 to .01 in a way putting the killing blows back in fencing.

[shoulung]

judo is slowly turning into sumo. if you look at really old sumo techniques, it looked a lot like judo.

[hedges1]

CATCH AS CATCH CAN WRESTLING IS BETTER

[monji112000]

catch as in name one high level grappler that competes as a catch only grappler?

[TAEKWON21]

ugh judo rules suck...I dont use those techiques but it makes the game look like point karate...too many stupid rules are killing the art...

[Calibur1980]

It's sad watching Judo "authorities" sacrifice the art for a superficial image of what they like.

[TAEKWON21]

last time i did a judo tournement they desqualified me for grabbing the leg longer than five seconds..and they told us about this rules...and one of the judges say we wanna make sure that wrestlers enter wrestling tournements and bjj guys enter bjj tournements looking at me like I was a bjj player.....i just like newaza...i bearly have any bjj...I honestly think it's B.S.

[enshin81]

I think theses rules are going to suck!

[BJJJUDOMIAMI]

'I couldn't agree with you more'