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  • this 9/8 ar damn easy and retarded -.- watch?v=ygT_aiaxFnQ <<<<<

  • Dayam! :D

  • I'm kinda just learning about odd time sigs, but I've always used the snare on the 3 and the 8.. I think my head is about to explode!

  • Isn't he technically playing 9/4 at the start? He's playing quarters at 140bpm 9 times...which is 9 quarter notes... so 9/4.

  • @SputniksArmy Well, if you look at the sheet music, you're right. It's written as quarter notes there, if the sheet music was written in 9/8 there, it would consist of for example 3 groups with two 8th notes each, and the last one would then be a group of three 8th notes. That would equal 9/8, but since all the notes are seperated, it's notated as quarter notes. You're absolutely right, you would think it's 9/4.

    But the speed of the beat makes it 8th notes. A bit confusing, actually.

  • @ALFREDsurfer08 Its the fact that he's not playing eighth notes at 140 bpm, but quarter notes. He should be playing like 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 1....

  • çal bi roman havasıda oynalım

  • 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 :D

  • "Here is my shoe!"

  • the most basic measure for turkish music

  • Lion in a coma by Animal collective

    fucked up. they kinda divide the measure in two of 4.5 lol

    /watch?v=i_42Sighttk

  • Huh. Play in 9/8 but music's in 4/4. Nice.

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  • I don't think the music that goes along with the beat is in 9/8. The patterns don't repeat at the same time. The only thing that happens is that the accents don't line up until the theme has repeated a few times. Thus, it isn't really 9/8.

  • This beat just throws me everytime! It's worse than 5/4!

  • @therealKINDLE for this drum comp i have to play a 2 bar beat that's 9/8 in bar 1 and 5/4 in bar 2! it is crazy hard!

  • this beat sounds like someone who doesnt drums and is just havin some fun with it.

  • @Krizmizify drummin is spouse to be fun

  • :10 to :13 seconds= ....THATS WHAT SHE SAID

  • Voices by Dream Theater. Enough said.

  • @defianceofsilence24, nah, dance of eternity

  • @killu626 The Dance of Eternity doesn't have 9/8 in it anywhere. The intro of Voices does, however.

  • I can't find your video for 9/4

  • play a zeimpekiko re palikari!!!! 

  • Well well made.Thanx

  • Listen to the Crunge by Led Zeppelin. The main time signature is 9/8.. It switches into 5/4 a few times, too.

  • This might sound strange to all of you.... But by watching this vid I learned how to read drom music a little bit.... and I have been playing for over 20 years by ear.. Thanks alot bro..

  • i love the finish on his drums

  • wuakala

  • but this is like.. ugly to play..

  • @97LuckyStrike personally i wasnt really blown away by these particular beats either, but u can get some pretty nasty beats in 9/8...we had a piece in my concert band that was 9/8 and it was pretty sick...u just counted like 1-2,1-2-3,1-2,1-2, and we had an accent on all the 1's and you kick up the speed and its a pretty cool little beat...kinda intense

  • @mvcfitz33 ohh

  • Bad way of using 9/8 time.

    The strong beats are supposed to be 1, 4, and 7.

  • @TMNoob3 that's if you want to play 9/8 as six eight with three pulses instead of two. some would argue that 12/8 should be 1, 3, 7, and 10, but you could do 1, 3, 5, 8, 10 to get a different feel. It just depends on what you're structuring the beat over.

  • @BrokenPerception

    No.

    Listen to Ride of the Valkries by Wagner. The beginning is 9/8 time. It sounds like triplets, but I have the sheet music, and its in 9/8.

  • i made up this awesome drum pattern where my right hang is doing 4/4 on the crash/china, while my kick and snare are playing 9/8. it's awesome because the first bar the crash in on the down beat, and every other bar it's on the up beat :D

    try it out

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  • The main riff from "Voices" by Dream Theater!

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  • "Apocalypse in 9/8" by Genesis,

    how they all keep in that rhythm is beyond me.

    My brix get shat every time I hear it.

  • Which music is the opening music?

  • Need to take beat 7 up to like 210 That'd be cool

  • Now add diddles and a couple hertas to those fills and it will sound cool :)

  • @aerosmith1501 Darn I heard that and I was going to comment but then you beat me to it.

  • "Oh no, It's another one of those long ones."

    THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID HAHAHAHAHA.

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  • if im hearing this correctly hes playing with a simple meter feel instead of the compound meter 9/8 dotted quarter note feel (1 la le 2 la le 3 la le type of thing) pretty interesting

  • "Apocalypse in 9/8" from Genesis' "Supper's Ready" is my favourite example of 9/8. Diagonal also use it in "Child of the Thunder Cloud"

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAaaaaaaaaaaha­hahahahahahahhaha

  • i dont see how 18/8 is the same as 9/4. its not the same. 

  • @pinoyhellahoy

    yes it is. it's the same time with a different feel (possibly). the reason it's the same is because if you were to have 2 beats going on at exactly the same speed, and one guy played nine quarter notes and the other guy played eighteen eighth notes they would take the same amount of time. think of fractions in math class...it's the same as saying 1/2 = 2/4.

  • @Acfeiln ummm, not its not. 9/4 rhythm is 1+2+3, 4+5+6, 7+8+9.

    18/8 is like 1,2,3,4-5,6,7,8-9,10,11,12-13,­14,15,16-17,18.

    and for the record its not like fractions in math class. thats like saying 6/8 is the same as 3/4.

  • @pinoyhellahoy

    It is the same as 3/4 in terms of time. You're talking about how it's played. But two quarter notes DO take the same amount of time as 4 eighth notes. You don't have to do 1+2+3, 4+5+6, 7+8+9 for 9/4. That's just one way of playing 9/4. If someone did 1+2+3+4, 5+6+7+8+9, it would still be in 9/4. There are many different ways to play the time signature. So let's just say you did 1+2+3, 4+5+6, 7+8+9. You could play an 18/8 going 1+2+3+4+5+6, 7+8+9+10+11+12, 13+14+15+16+17+18, and

  • @pinohellahoy

    be the same time as the 9/4 groove, but played in eigth notes.

  • @Acfeiln wow, 6/8 is in 1+2+3.4+5+6 its a compound triplet. and yes i know that 9/4 is a hybrid quadruplet time as well as a compound triplet time. and the way you group is the smallest possible. 18/8 will exist in groups of 6 if the time requires of it, but its highest count feel will be in threes, but 18/8 does not justify that it is the same as 8/4. its like saying 8/8 is the same as 4/4.

  • @pinoyhellahoy

    yes, it is, strictly in terms of time. 8/8 takes the same amount of time as 4/4. if somebody wanted to choose to break down their 9/4 groove by thinking of it as 18/8, they would still be playing a 9/4. I'm not talking about feel or how it will usually sound. I'm saying that it is mathematically equal strictly in terms of time. It may be totally different in terms of feel, depending on how it's played. but strictly in terms of time, yes, 4/4 and 8/8 take the same amount of time.

  • @pinoyhellahoy

    here, let me correct myself a bit. you're talking about how the time signature sounds. that's not what I'm talking about or what Michalkow's talking about. we're talking about how long it takes. if two people played at the same speed, with 1 person playing a bar of 4/4 and another person playing a bar of 8/8, they would finish at the same time. so he's saying that at let's say x amount of quarter notes/minute, a bar of 9/8 is not nearly as long as a bar of 9/4,

  • @pinoyhellahoy

    it would take a bar of 18/8 to take as long as a bar of 9/4 to play (again, at the same speed in terms of quarter notes/minute). You're saying that they don't sound the same when played, which is mostly true and you are correct in what you're saying, but that isn't what I or Michalkow was talking about. he was talking about the length of time it took to play a particular beat.

  • @Acfeiln do you know how long ive been waiting for some to say that answer for me? thank you sooo much. ive been here like twice and each time, they cant answer my question. but you sir, i applaud you.

  • @pinoyhellahoy

    lol you're not being sarcastic?

  • @Acfeiln i am being dead serious. Like being an RCM student, ive seen some dumb things and people cannot even explain themselves.

  • @pinoyhellahoy

    lol well thank you and I'm glad to have helped =)

  • beat 8 sucks ass! ill never hear a song with that fill

  • @inri12 Perhaps not, but... song someone should try, curious to hear it.

  • This sweet beat is in 9/8 I think :: youtube.com/watch?v=g_auYlXBD6­k

  • excelent! thanks man!

  • This section made my head spin! Some GREAT ideas here! Now to pass them on to my 12-year-old -- the REAL drummer in our family! His public debut on drums was playing in 5/4 time!

  • why doesn't he divide it into three sections like most people

  • Id guess that 95% of drummers out there cant play time signatures other than 4/4. (Im one of the 95%, because the math of it never made sense to me, at least when it came time to play the beats). The ones that can, when they play and incorporate difficult time signature changes with CREATIVE drum parts (not just adding an extra snare drum strike in a bar of 5/4 after the 4), are the guys making the records, and making the money.; the drummers who all drummers would like to play like.

  • 9/8 -> Hiromi Uehara's XYZ or XYG.

  • Dont combine odd time signatures with gay music... ADD METAL!

  • @I3lackArrow but contradictory dont u think?

  • @I3lackArrow haha! Hell yea.. Sick bands like Between the Buried and Me, August Burns Red, Opeth, Rush, Black Dhalia Murder.. ect. play in odd time signatures.

  • i dont like u mike

  • @I3lackArrow metal IS GAY MUSIC

  • @piggemz your a fag what do you listen to

  • @I3lackArrow Great comment douchebag. Metal doesn't own time sigs.  Ever listen to any jazz? Of course not, because you are a closed minded prick. I love metal too but there is other music out there, when you start sprouting hair and your voice changes you may discover it. They guy is playing from canned music with the goal of teaching a lesson, not to be the "cool guy."

  • @elnovakaine hahaha dont call me douchebag, douchebag. I listen to jazz all day long and metal in general is shit music, aslong as you do not combine it with nice rhythms.

    You dont need to play shitty music just to teach somebody play

  • @BertFlamingo I wasn't talking to you queef.

  • @elnovakaine yes you were, I just used my other account

  • @I3lackArrow It's not fucking "gay", goddamn typical metalhead making Metal look bad.

  • @I3lackArrow I dunno, it actually kinda sounds like something Porcupine Tree might use.

  • @I3lackArrow Typical metal ignorance to music. Best of luck appreciating your music.

  • @IntuneGP999 Dude, shut the fuck up

  • @IntuneGP999 Typical ignorance to metal and the fact that the most complex time signatures and their use are in metal e.g. Meshuggah

    Look who's ignorant now.

  • @Slagar10

    I know the music lived by it for years and defended it till I realized the creativity is irrelevant to the fans or the musicians. All this Meshuggah and Avant-Garde shit are not even close to making such awesome Time sig's sound like good music. You know why? Because Metalheads will take any bullshit even though it sounds the same and expresses the same emotion again and again.

  • @IntuneGP999 O RLY? Many of the metal bands I listen to aren't angry, and last I checked Meshuggah sounds pretty damn good (and apparently their fanbase would agree). Last I checked, not one Meshuggah song sounds like another so the claim that all metal sounds the same is bullshit. Really, the most unique and bizarre artists I know of are in metal. So you obviously weren't much of a metalhead if you think that that it "sounds the same and expresses the same emotion."

    Or you're just trolling.

  • thank you from Croatia!

  • blah blah :39

  • so the bottom number is always an even one? ecept for 1/1?

  • @gelskkraun Yeah, I've never heard of /3 or /5 signatures. You'd have to look into reeeally experimental classical music to find any odd bottom numbers, because the bottom numbers are the measurement unit, and are established note-lengths, like quaver and all those names.

  • idiooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooooooooooot

  • Can't you break 9/8 down into three sets of three...?

  • yea its the same thing

  • amazing, it's cool that u guys put some sheets

  • the gipsys play also a very fine 9/8 rythm....its like

    bum ka ta ka bum ka bum ka ta ....or bum ka ta ka bum ka ta ka ta .......i like this groove very much.!

  • i fell sleep.

  • Well, the video is mistaken on every tempo. It's eighth note = 140/150...NOT quarter note.

    Also, the first beat doesn't musically match the guitar track.

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  • This is pretty much a 3/4 time signature...

  • i think you mean 3/8.. and if the measures he's playing are subdivided into another time signature, they wouldn't be comfortable at all.

  • Lame beats.

    How can you present the 9/8 without showing the most important beat and the key to understanding the 9/8, namely the "4/4+8th"?

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  • arg, can anyone tell me if there is a song with the intro theme? sounds too awesome =(

  • Some of these beats groove, but most of them seem too mechanical to play with music. What really makes time odd time signatures fascinating is when you can play them and it doesn't sound like your playing in an odd time.

  • lol exactly, thats why i love prog(:

  • yeah a groove that sounds natural in an odd time signature is a cool groove! at the same time sometimes it's nice to hear different time signatures workign against eachother a la king crimson but you're right the groove's here don't sound natural at all

  • Yes! Precisely why I love Bruford and King Crimson. Actually, you want to hear a solid 9/8 groove, listen to the track Beelzebub by Bruford.

  • Well, he's pretty much showing the most basic grooves here. For the people who are inexperienced with odd time sinatures to get the feel for it, and start constructing their own grooves based on this. I don't think the intention of the video is to give us ideas on patterns to use in songs.. but i dunno.

  • You are right, absolutely true.

    It seems like lots of people here don't realize that.

    I think they can't just play in nine.

  • how 'bout locking-in with the click before recording? just a thought ...

  • So, the beat from 1:13 to 1:41 sounds pretty awesome with the guitar and keyboard. I will for sure be working from that basic groove. Thanks!

  • im mostly a guitarrist but i play drums 2 so these lessons could help me alot and i think im learning how to read drum notes

  • he's very not**

  • esta jodida la cosa,,,

  • sweet, but useless

  • 0:00-0:30---?

  • 12-12-12-123 :D

  • thx

  • Pretty sweet!

  • yea they are

  • dude you count 4/4 is 1-2-3-4. and that can be split into 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &. now 8/8 is an odd time because you count in threes then into twos like so.

    1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8,( the comas are where the end of the beat is,

  • Surely the difference is not the counting but where the kick drum placement is, if you had 4/4 at 140bpm and 8/8 at 70bpm they'd be the same except youd get twice as many kicks in 4/4. With standard rhythms anyway. Why would you count oddly in 8/8 that would give it a triplet feel and make the rhythm uneven?

  • 8/8 is an odd time. and you dont count triplet, its counted in a compund time then into a simple time. which is 123, 456, 78. 4/4 is a simple time cause you break it down into 1& 2& 3& 4&. therefore 4/4 and 8/8 are not the same. you only say its the same because you say its 4 quarter notes in the bar which equals 8 eighth notes in the bar. though that is a valid thought, there are three time counts, simple, compound and odd. .

  • Like you said, they sound the same, but they are counted differently. But there is pretty much no reason to count in 8/8 when you can just count in 4/4.

  • in simple time, the beat can be broken into two counts. those are 2,3,4 on the top of the time sig. so an example is 2/4 which is equal 1&2&. in compound time, the beat is broken into three. so an example is in 6/8, the beats is called on the 1 and 4 but the the count is 1,2,3-4,5,6. in odd time, its a mix of the two

  • but easy as each other

  • I love the new graphic thank you sooooo!! much, now can you up date the old videos?

  • the first one sounded kool with the music in the background

  • really amazing exercises, thx for showing them to us :D

  • odd and a little boring showing each beat 8 times... And there alot of very much more exciting odd beats

  • Really cool lesson :D

  • Cool

  • nice fills man these are well worth praticing.

  • nice this notes are very stranges xD thanks for the help

  • nice !! :O

  • Yirh :D Nice enough :)

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