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  • @bgibb101 ps i would appreciate you not referring to homosexuals as "queers"

  • @bgibb101 If you believe in a God that condemns people to hell for doing things not accoriding to the Bible, than surely you and I will be condemned as well. Guess I will see you in hell.

  • @TheBeatlefloyd - I don't make the rules, pal. God created the world, us and everything in it. The destructive queer lifestyle and the shocking HIV rates among GBLTs, not to mention a much shortened lifespan is well documented. The Bible condemns homosexuality for a reason - it is unnatural and dangerous. It will bring God's judgement on you. Nobody was born that way and nobody has to live that way. The whole GBLT "liestyle' is a lie. But like I said, I'm only the messenger.

  • @TheBeatlefloyd - " If you believe in a God that condemns people to hell for doing things not accoriding to the Bible."

    Your missing the point here. Homosexuality is a sin like many other sins listed, such as stealing, lying, gluttony, murder, atheism, adultery, rape, and so one. however, there is complete forgiveness in Christ, and a chance to start again with God. Absolutely nobody has to go to hell, only those who die as unprepentent sinners gay or straight.

  • @GTpanik harsh. you ought to calm your prejudice its not right

  • @bgibb101 Good thing there isn't a god.

  • Olberman is just another liberal who ignores the fact that gay "marriage" is just part of the homosexual agenda. Once we allow queers to marry, the slippery slope will continue until incest, beastiality and even "group marriage" is allowed. And on we will continue to descend into utter madness, simply because 2% of the population want to deconstruct marriage in order to legitimize their lifestyle.

  • @bgibb101 you really are a clueless fucking bigoted moron

  • @marcusantonio91 - So, if you cannot answer me with any measure of intelligence, just throw abuse as you have nothing else to contribute, right?

  • @bgibb101 how can I give a coherent response to someone, who no matter how much scientific evidence, published studies etc that show homosexuality is part of nature. That show evolution is true, that show the big bang to be true, will deny it and say the bible is infallible, and how this 2000 year of book of chinese whispers somehow overules overwhelming scientific evidence to the contrary

  • @marcusantonio91 - Evolution? If queer sex was normal, then why did evolution not provide the means for heterosexual & homosexual relationships to produce offspring? Indeed, asexual reproducers in the animal kingdom are the most efficient at propagating their species. So why evolve two sexes for reproduction? If homosexuals were confined without access to reproduce bisexually with the opposite sex, they would literally become extinct. Why do you think they want access to our schools?.....

  • @marcusantonio91 - Why do you think that queers chant "ten percent is not enough, recruit, recruit,recruit!" Apart from GBLTs making up a total of 10% of the populatiion, they can only 'recruit' by targetting the young. They want "gay & straight" clubs in our schools, "Jane has Two Mommys" as reading material for 6 year olds, "anti-bullying" programs for queer youth (why not stop ALL bullying for ANY reason?) and are demanding access to Christian schools (but not not Muslim schools).....

  • @marcusantonio91 - For medical evidence on the dangers of queer sex and just how their lives are horribly shortened by their deviant, promiscuous lifestlye, then go to the CDC website. I can gove you other medical sources on this subject you can access. My earlier point was (since you raised it), if we are so willing simply to deconstruct marriage to acommodate the demands of GBLTs, then the practitioners of beastiality, incest and multiple marriage will demand the same accommodation....

  • @bgibb101 Even if you're right about the "dangers of queer sex", it hardly has anything to do with the subject of gay marriage. There actually are people who have sex without the benefit of matrimony, and, if anything, a monogamous marriage would logically decrease the spread of any sexually transmitted disease.

  • @booker1959 - In countries where same-sex marriage is legal, why do fewer than 5% of GBLTs tie the knot? Surprisinlgy, even some GBLTs don't want it. "Up until now, sexually indiscriminate members of the gay and lesbian community have had a tidy excuse to avoid settling down,” said Irina DiSalvio, professor of gay and lesbian studies at New York University. They are going to get in as much frivolous penis-on-penis and vagina-on-vagina activity as possible before gay marriage becomes legal.”

  • @bgibb101 I don't exactly doubt that, although my own observation (after many years of observing!) is that this kind of "frivolous" behavior is more common among gay men than lesbians, which I think has to do with how guys are in general (no, not all, but you know what I mean)

  • @booker1959 - I take your point. According to the CDC, "Lesbians and bisexual women have a higher rate of obesity, smoking, and stress. All of these are risk factors for heart disease. As such, lesbians and bisexual women should talk with their doctors about how to prevent heart disease. The most common cancers for all women are breast, lung, colon, uterine, and ovarian. Several factors put lesbian and bisexual women at higher risk for developing some cancers........further

  • @booker1959 - "•Lesbians are less likely than heterosexual women to have had a full-term pregnancy. Hormones released during pregnancy and breastfeeding are thought to protect women against breast, endometrial, and ovarian cancers. Lesbians and bisexual women are less likely to get routine screenings, such as a Pap test, which can prevent or detect cervical cancer. The viruses that cause most cervical cancer can be sexually transmitted between women."

  • @booker1959 - "Lesbians and bisexual women are less likely than other women to get routine mammograms and clinical breast exams. This may be due to lesbians' and bisexuals' lack of health insurance, fear of discrimination, or bad experiences with health care professionals. Failure to get these tests lowers women's chances of catching cancer early enough for treatments to work. Lesbians are more likely to smoke than heterosexual women are, and bisexual women are the most likely to smoke."

  • @booker1959 - So I agree that lesbian and bisexual women have less to worry about concerning HIV/AIDS, although they still have their own health risks to worry about like the rest of us.

  • @bgibb101 secondly I can't give you a smart answer if you refer to homosexuals as having an agenda and comparing it to beasteality, you haven't a damn clue really, there's potential ww3 with iran, climate change 100s of millions starving in the third world and you care about a supposed homosexual agenda.

  • @marcusantonio91 - Climate change? Why are we breaking heat records set in the 1800s? Millions of people starving? Talk to the billionaire dictators with well fed, well equipped armies that rule those countries. WW3 with Iran? A world war involves the world, not just one country. Israel will knock out Iran's nuclear weapons capability just as they did in 1981 when they took out the French built Osirak nuclear plant near Baghdad. Next question....

  • sigh, msnbc lost a lot of quality when they got rid of Olbermann, one of the few voices of reason in american media :(

  • @AngelusDlion you're so sweet thank you :) its what i mean to do :)

  • That's just a weak thing to say. How can you put blacks wasn't allow to marry white people in the same sentence with gays? That's bullshit. I believe in segregation. All must have a piece of gold for themselves. I don't hate anyone, but why make a weak comment like that?

  • @GTpanik Believe in segregation? You're a fucking idiot. Go back to 1955 you moron.

  • @crapObear2323

    You go back to the hills and caves of Europe, faggot devil.

  • @GTpanik I am black you mean douche! 

  • @crapObear2323 Ok, Uncle Tom.

  • I was gonna make a gay joke, butt fuck it.

  • An old but good speech. This is what needs to be said to people who still operate under biggoted conservative notions.

  • honestly, id have sex with this guy.

  • Keith Olberman: black and gay are the same thing.... people like that are why we can't have nice things...

  • This stupid idea that being gay is a sin has been beaten over the heads of religious people for thousands of years. It's going to take a while for gay people to be treated the same as straight people, and we are already seeing it with the next generation of this world. Americas young generation no longer hold the same prejudice towards gay people it's only a matter of time.

  • @InformingChristians I don't hate you or anyone else and yes I have a "personal investment" in this I would like to see my son one day get married to a man he loves and start his own family.I have many gay friends and I think they deserve to be with the one person that they find is their soul mate in this life. So why can't these people have what I and other people have, happiness with their loved one and a chance to start a family?

  • black peeples is still waitin for the peeple of America to care about them. more blacks in the prison than in the collegge. no jobs and the white peeple only cry for the gays. gays can hide from the peeples against hays. blacks cannot hides from the racists.

  • @CreekJohnson200 right on!! fuk da faggot racists!!

  • @AntaresInScorpius that is what all the do is about. is to stop the racists from the usa from prejudicing against other peeples.

  • Can't stand homophobes (including my brother) but I am straight myself but they deserve love to. They say seeing them engage in PDA is uncomfortable to me PDA is uncomfortable with it's homo or heterosexual. They say they don't want their kids around that. Their children shouldn't even be around heterosexual things of that nature. Do we all want love and happiness. Why does a persons sexuality matter? Tell me that

  • just leave gays alone

  • PROPOSITION 8 SHOULD BE A NATIONAL LAW!!!

  • @Nagoragama why not?

  • fuck faux news and fuck prop 8

  • Homosexuals should have equal rights like everyone else. They should be allowed to love, get married & serve in the military. What if the situation were reversed? What if heterosexuals were banned from getting married & discriminated against? As a heterosexual, I will not like that at all. So, as human beings we have to be fair & do what is right. America has a the seperation of chruch & state but that line has got to be a lot clearer! Religion & politics just shouldn't mix.

  • I'm not religious and I'm not American, but this brought tears to my eyes.

  • @InterferingDyke LMFAO, it brought laffs and guffaws to me.

  • If the only thing that you're looking for in marriage is the government benefits from it, I'll gladly accept dropping all benefits associated. Marriage is a RELIGIOUS ceremony where a man and woman commit their relationship and the family they are building to God. That's why religious communities are up in arms about it. The God that most people believe in in this country condemns homosexuality so to allow gay marriage is to infringe on beliefs. You want tax benefits, go for civil unions!

  • This goes out to everyone.

    I encourage you all to go over to "Response to Keith Olbermann(Part1)" with Mr. Tony Miano,or The Lawman104.Tony's response to this video is broken down into four pieces as Tony sets you straight on the issue of Homosexuality and Prop 8 and corrects Keith Olbermann on everything that he has said because Keith is speaking wrongly here and does not speak with love for his fellow man.Please dont listen to Keith here.Tony wants to truly help his fellow man by the truth.

  • Marriage Between a man and woman only stand a 50 / 50 chance. No matter how much they love each other.

    Same-sex couples wish that same statistic could be attached to them only because it involves getting legally married. Being in a legally recognized union.

    If being in a legally recognized union / marriage meant accepting the fact half of them would end in separation or divorce. Same sex couples would welcome it with open arms.

    That's incredible.

  • The fight for marriage equality has not weakened my 20 year marriage...it has strengthened it; I no longer take it and the rights bestowed for granted, after seeing so many people fight for the same rights and responsibilities. The marriage of my gay friends' in the pre-Prop 8 era in no way diminishes mine.

  • I can't even believe this is still an issue. Two people of the same sex getting married does not change anything for those who oppose it. Be realistic and take off your blinders, not everyone in the world believes the way you do, nor should they. Everyone should be accepting of other people's way of living and not try to be the morality police.

  • Every human being should see this.

  • @Onebadgs400 : Do your research.

    Actually if you check history homosexuals were also heavily persecuted and tortured in the holocaust. Also targeted were Jehovah's Witnesses, Lutherans, Poles, Romanian Gypsies, Trade Unionist, Slavic's, Deaf, Disabled, etc...

    The Star of David was used to mark Jewish prisoners and black or pink triangles were used to mark homosexuals.

    At the time Berlin was considered the highest mecca of gay tolerance and as such had a large population, they were very targeted.

  • @bachmann4president Marriage also has been = >>> Lakota chief Crazy Horse had one or two male spouse(s) and most other Native American nations also had same-sex marriages. In 17th century

    Fukian Province China, marriages between gay men were common. In West Africa, "woman marriage[s]"-practiced there by many nations.1552: In the "History of the Indies," Francisco Lopez de Gomara documents men are marrying other men in the Indies (Caribbean). Ethnographers documented these marriages and more.

  • @bachmann4president As to your last comment try facts over fear and loathing:

    A 2006 study by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that "38.2 percent of men between ages 20 and 39 and 32.6 percent of women ages 18 to 44 engage in heterosexual anal sex". 

  • i've never seen him get like this ever, not even close, how the hell do people think they can stop gay marriage?! i'm very Christian, but you know what, screw the people in the church speaking against gays, God loves us all equally, he made us the way he wanted us to be, I am not gay or bi, but i feel strongly about it.

  • @TheBeatlefloyd

    I wish all Christians were like you.

  • @Gurra88 this is such an awesome thing for you to say, thank you :)

  • @TheBeatlefloyd thank you.

    You give me hope.

  • @TheBeatlefloyd - So you are "very Christian?" Please review Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, I Corinthians 6:9, Jude 1:7, Roans 1:27. If God had intended the human race to procreate through both heterosexual and homosexual marriage, He would have designed our bodies to reproduce both ways. The Church exists to save people, not to bless the means of their damnation. No marriage can be sanctioned by the Church if that marriage involves acts that put the couple outside of eternal salvation.

  • @bgibb101 Wow do you even read what you're posting or do you not consider this shooting your mouth off about your god?

  • @onebadgs400 gays were persecuted in the holocaust...so yeah

  • @hyrdogin Fuck that uneducated illogical shit. "gays were persecuted in the holocaust"!!!! Really mother fucker REALLY!!! I can guarantee you NOT ONE JEW was worried about ass fucking during the GOT DAMN HOLOCAUST! Point me to a point in history where a gay man was hung for being gay on a mass level. Couldn't swim or drink the same fucking water or starved and tortured in a concentration camp. Yeah that's right you can't mother fucker EAT THE FATTEST DICK YOU CAN. ASS HOLE!

  • @onebadgs400 TROLL. im not saying gays have it harder than any other minority but they WERE PERSECUTED IN THE HOLOCAUST. LIKE IT OR NOT. and they often fall victim to HATE CRIMES. plus a black family isn't going to disown their son for being black. a normal family will disown their kid for being gay. CANT YOU SEE STRAIGHT WHITE MEN JUST FOUND ANOTHER GROUP TO DISCRIMINATE AND YOU DONG GIVE A SHIT

  • @hyrdogin TROLL? Chock on a dick. Do you know how insignificant a homosexual was during WWII. (with the deepest New York accent) FUCKING Over 60 million people were killed!!! You fucking cunt! Yes sometimes tough love is in order just like for an alcoholic, or a drug addict.

    CANT YOU SEE THE WHITE MANS PLAN TO KEEP THE BLACK MAN FROM BECOMING THE HEAD OF HIS FAMILY. Look at the black family. Yeah the feminization of the black man. All in the white mans plan to keep us in bondage

  • @onebadgs400 ok now you're just not making sense hahahahh

  • @hyrdogin just playing along

  • who the hell wold dislike this!?!?

  • @RakdosCarnarium bigots

  • i love this guy. he speaks from then heart, and his speaks so true. His message is love!

  • Keith Olberman you have my respect.....

  • @OfficialReviewer2011 and you have mine. As does he.

  • Prop 8, bring it to NY. Judgement coming to NYC soon. God have mercy on us all.

  • @CTab234 watch out for "13achings". I think his job is to publicly discredit and accuse anyone who takes a stand against gay marriage. he is no different than the wretched busybodies who worked for Hitler.

  • @STRGATE7 And yet the guy who wants to take away basic marriage rights away from a social group has nothing to do with Hitler. You haven't given one damn good reason as to why gay marriage is wrong. I don't hate homophobes I pity their stupidity. Monkeys and Dolphins have a better grasp of sexuality than you. I am tired of trying to be civil with someone who could clearly give a shit about other peoples feelings. Fuck off.

  • @13ackings I wasn't even commenting to u ASSHOLE. don't u have anything better to do with ur time, instead of monitoring this comment page? when I was 14, I was out dating girls and hanging out with my friends. u r one pathetic soul, trolling around on youtube. is ur life THAT EMPTY AND SAD? 14 yr. old NWO lover? 

  • @STRGATE7 Umm of course im going to reply to a comment that focuses on ME. Honestly I don't have anything better to do? Your the one hating on people over a computer and looking at my channel to see how old I am. And if assholes like you can get a girlfriend then life is really unfair. And typing a comment for 30 seconds really isn't wasting a lot of my times. If your the adult here then you would be mature and walk away. But no you have insult me. Immature very sad indeed. Goodbye bro.

  • This speech is so beautiful I want to tattoo it on my face.

  • @tuff0turtle i want to tattoo this comment on my face

  • Gays were offered the same rights a married couples. They just wanted to be "married." Considering that marriage is not a constitutional right, this all proposition seemed ridiculous to me. Also, I wasn't too fond of the idea of the government being able to force churches into marrying gay couples or otherwise face a lawsuit.

  • @rjkahlon Separate but equal never is.

  • I've never seen someone so passionate... but I'm glad to see it now! He truly is remarkable~

  • Speaking as a Californian (home of Prop 8!) the arguments against gay marriage seem to exist in an otherwordly vacuum, in the context of this state and already-existing law. Specifically, to take one contention, one would have to conclude that Prop 8 supporters believe that children would be harmed by being raised by two gay guys who are married, but perfectly OK if raised by two gay guys in a domestic partnership...? There seems to be a logical fallacy somewhere in there....

  • If only everyone was as smart as you Keith!

  • AFUCKIN'MEN!!

  • Fan of moral tales with strong gay characters? REVERB is romantic suspense of a straight man with gay friends who are the most solid couple in story--a must read of a beautiful, rich, master musician who learns to love someone other than himself. Read it on reverbnovel or jcafesin dot com...

  • Love is stronger than Jesus, that's why he will fail

  • Prop 8 is emphasized as a MAJOR sin and that's horrible.If it were so "Terrible" it would be in the 10 Commandments which it's not. Besides it's nobody's business what a couple wants to do so don't be nosy and don't judge other people.Just say your hail Mary and mind your business.Leave the judgement to GOD!

  • @TheAlex4sho Agree, I do not think Prop 8 supporters are saying that homosexuality is worse than other sins of immoratlity (all sex outside of wedlock), just concerned what will be next (marraige to animals, to kids, to siblings). And that God created them man and woman, as help mates, specifically saying that homosexuality is not God's will. Bigots do exist, but I would think that most Prop 8 supporters are not hateful. What's Best? I have good friends gay; they know what i think; its cool.

  • @chrismas28 But god isn't real ... 

  • @pubuman - I would challenge you to ask Him if He is real. In the quietness of your heart, with sincerity, pray 'God, if you exist, I ask that you reveal yourself. Do not let me continue to believe differently if I am wrong.' If you lack the courage, faith, or humility, or whatever, seek it from God; He is the source of all life, He does exist, you will meet Him. Ask and You shall receive, seek and you will find. Godspeed on your journey of faith. Jesus rules.

  • Your preaching to the choir man.Prop 8 is AWFUL

  • Homosexual marriage is not a civil right. Marriage involves much more than the sexual relationship of two people. Homosexual relations are a perversion and political correctness prevents people from discussing the true problems and deviant behaior of most "gays."

  • @JavierCA2008 You're pretty deep in the closet there, mind grabbing me the vacuum cleaner when you come out? Thanks!

  • @JavierCA2008 What the FUCK are you on about?

  • Thank you Keith

  • Guess Odermans faggy outrage PO's one to many regular people. Now he's shovelling fries in San Fagrisco.

  • Still you think you are entitled to judge who's right or wrong? if you have your right to choose your religion, your clothes, what you eat, either you get a tattoo or not... if one pays his/her bills and taxes and is a righteous citizen, why deny this person what every citizen a right to decide who they wnat to marry? To me, it's outrageous, it's beyond religion. You've got no right to judge no one. You believe in God, you are NOT God.

  • I'm sorry, but to argue is pointless. I got a little caught up. This is a beautiful video. Thank you, Keith Olbermann. Thank you for being a decent human being and searching for something beyond yourself. I will always support you, and I will stand beside you as we work to create a better world. One full of joy.

  • This guy has a sign on his brain that says closed for business. Erase my name from the book above? What a foolish and insane thing to quote. Prop8 is about saying no to perversion. You have confused love with lust. Our country has mixed up diversity with perversity. Are we to ask God for his blessing and then spit in his face? Why are we faced with disaster after disaster? God is turning his face from us and we must come back to him repentant. And now this will be labeled as hate......

  • @notxxr Your god has no business in the law. It's as simple as that. The law of this land is secular, and this land was based and made on the ideal that all are equal.

    If you don't love it, then leave it. Simple as that.

  • @sabboth42 One nation under God. God is the law.  You can accept it or swim against the flood, but it is the truth. You can tell him what his business is. I already know. He is TRUTH, and will not stand for perversity. All are equal. Equal to stand for truth and justice (GOD) and equal to stand for sin (devil). God will judge when his longsuffering is at an end, and all will bow before the King of the Law, JESUS. Get on board

  • @notxxr Your free to exercise your first amendment rights to worship as you please. However, I am also free to exercise my first amendment right to be free of religion. Your religion has no power over anyone but you. Any attempt to push your religion onto others will be fought and over come with the secular law of this land.

    Love American or leave it. America stands for equality.

  • @sabboth42 Of course we are free. God gave us all free will, to either be pleasing to him or not.  You can explain all this to him when the time is right. The free people of this country will always be sharing the truth with their fellow citizens, out of concern and love. God is truth and truth is the law.

  • @notxxr

    :) Peace be with you brother. The knowledge of what this nation stands for, its constitution, and the laws that rule this land obviously aren't.

    Your religion has no power over anyone but you. Any attempt you make to force your beliefs on other will be met with opposition and will be repelled.

    "Let those without sin cast the first stone."

  • @sabboth42 God is the ultimate judge of us all, and as such will be the one doing the throwing. I would say the fear of God has power over me, and will conduct myself accordingly. "force" and common sense seem to be confused. I appreciate ur dialogue, but must rest now. later

  • @notxxr I wish there was a hell so you could burn in it.

  • @fullbloodlion there is a hell and it will suck, but im gonna ride the high road to heaven as Christ is my saviour. Don't wait until it is too late to get on board. Jesus loves us ALL, so much that he gave his life for ALL of us. Don't confuse TRUTH with hate. Your statement is full of hate. My statement is truth.

  • @notxxr I was a Christian. A blind, stupid, naive, mindless sheep of a Christian, just like you. I have read the Bible, I went to church, I prayed, and you know what? I changed. I started to use my mind, and started to think logically. Do research, and quit being a mindless sheep. Christianity is nothing but another way to control people. "Do as I say or you will burn in hell forever!" It is a tool, used be ancient people to control what others do. Nothing more. Liberate yourself. Use your mind.

  • @fullbloodlion So you were a christian but did research and concluded that all is by chance? If we both die tomorrow, what happens to us. I know were i will be, but what about u? Why would I burn in hell for telling the truth according to God? If I am right, I have everything to gain, if you are right, we both gain nothing, unless you willing accept hell as your fate? By chance we share our thoughts? By chance u wish me to hell? God loves us all

  • @notxxr Look to science for your answers, not the Bible. When I die, I will just cease to exist, just like you. If there was a hell, you would burn in it for being so full of hate. You say my love is perversion? You say that it is just lust, not love? That is hate. The name for the "if I am right, you burn, if you a are right, nothing happens" argument is called Pascal's Wager. And lastly, if the Abrahamic God of your Bible were real, I wouldn't want to have anything to do with him anyway.

  • @fullbloodlion When did truth become hate? I disagree with pascal, through "reason". I concluded a long time ago that God exists by reason. Science supports the existence of God. God said that laying with members of the same sex is perverse, Im just quoting Him, and using my reason to believe him. I hate not u. One says ur wrong and u wish them to hell? hmmm were is the hate? hell is reserved for the ones who deny Christ, I will not send u there, He is the judge and jury

  • @notxxr Because your "truth" is hateful. If you don't see that then you are more naive than I thought. Also, science does not support the existence of any God, anywhere. And since we are going down the road of what God hates, let's name a few more things! Cutting your hair, wearing mixed fabric clothes, having a flat nose, being blind, shall I keep going? To me, your belief is perverse and immoral. Does that mean I have the right to take it from you?

  • @fullbloodlion U R stuck in the old testament. Life is in the new testament. God is truth and I choose to believe him, his word, and his law. Prehaps you need to study more? We will answer to him one day. I can say ur truth is hateful much easier, and more convincingly. You have been given freewill by the creator and He sees how u use it. Freedom of choice is the right of us all. The law just seems to be flipflopping on the issue.

  • @notxxr I have done all of the studying I need to. I have read the Bible. Front to back, and I still study it now and again to brush myself up on it. And why should the Old Testament be ignored? It is still the word of God, is it not? Or do you just pick and choose what you want from the Bible?

  • @fullbloodlion The Bible is the word of God from front to back and is to be treated as such, there is no picking or choosing, as it is not open to private interpretation to anyone. Since no one, other than Christ, was able to attain to the level of the law, (old testament) Jesus came to earth, showed us it could be done (perfect in the law) gave his life as the final sacrifice thereby making the new law (new testament) the standard by which all can be saved. You must know this, having studied?

  • @notxxr The sad Irony is that if you happen to be right, you are wrong. There are only 12 references to homosexuality in the entirety of the bible, and that is including passages that merely reference the "sin of Sodom", which MANY Christian scholars (including many who are still entirely opposed to homosexuality) have pointed out to most likely be a mistranslation, and may not have anything to do with homosexuality. There are far more mentions of "Love Thy Neighbor" or similar doctrines.

  • @TatouSolitaire If im right im wrong? Sodom was completly destroyed by God, because of its sin. The men of sodom were attempting to "know carnally" the angels sent by God. It was judged. Sodom is a terrible example of what sin can cost. Everything. Most assuredly homosexuality was part of the problem. Love by the standard of God is all encompasing. It wash's away our sin through Jesus. The love of Jesus is "agape love". This means a selfless, spiritual, non sexual love. I hate not u

  • @notxxr What I mean to say by you being wrong if you are right is that should your belief be correct, your hate will be judged far more severely than somebody's sexuality. If you believe so firmly in the perfection of the Bible, do you eat shellfish? Do you walk on grass on the Sabbath? Do you believe it is okay to sell your children into slavery if they do not behave well? You say there is no picking and choosing of doctrine, yet unless you adhere to all these things and many more, you do.

  • @TatouSolitaire my hate? The fact that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah in part because of homosexuality is my hate? God doesn't hate u nor anybody on the planet. In fact He loves us all so much that he gave His one and only Son to die for exactly this type of sin. The problem is nobody wants to hear "thou shalt not". I will not judge u, God will. Why are u taking the chance of his wrath?

  • @notxxr yes, your hate. you use the Bible to support your own stupid bigotry and use it as a blanket excuse to throw in the face of anyone who has enough logic to see through your stupid bullshit.

    you can claim its your religion, and God tells you it's okay to hate on people, but that IS what it is, it is your hatred, discrimination and bigotry and it is for that reason that anybody with a working brain undoubtedly thinks you are an idiot!

  • @Stevie2Sxc Its interesting that by u calling me a bigot, makes u one, as u are intolerant to truth. R u angry because God wiped out Sodom and Gomorrah? Or are u angry because God' idea of marriage is between a man and a woman? U have confused my "stupid bigotry" with my fear of God. I most certainly do wrap the Bible around me like a blanket, its full of truth and life, why wouldn't anybody want to be surrounded by that? To disagree does not imply hate. ih8not, but i do love God' truth.

  • @notxxr and God's truth is full of hatred towards gay, so yes. by association, you do hate.

    and no, i'm not angry at God for 'destroying Sodom and Gomorrah'. I'm angry at you people for believing the Bible still deserves to be taken seriously in modern times. it's an old, OLD book. it's outdated and backwards, just leave it now. people are more and more beginning to see how dumb you all look for following it as loyally as you do.

  • @Stevie2Sxc How is the Bible not relevant to today? It is more relevant now than it ever was. Do u think that God will look favorablely on us for leaving his written word behind? He is judging this nation with terrible disasters because of our apostasy. That alone should be a compelling reason for returning to God and his truth.

  • @notxxr how is it relevant? besides the 'don't kill, rape or steal' shit which is just plain common sense, the Bible's full of bullshit in spadeloads. like forbidding you from eating shellfish, or from shaving. it's fucking nonsense outside a few of the 10 commandments.

    and frankly, if you think God needs to put disasters on the world to make people pay attention to him, then your fictional sky-wizard has the maturity of a fucking toddler acting up to get attention

  • @Stevie2Sxc Nobody want to hear "thou shalt not". Since God created this world and all that is in it, it is his right to judge it as he see' fit. Remember the flood of Noah? God gave us simply diet guidelines to follow for our benefit. Disease' and cancer' are rampant in todays world because of poor diet. Too many people live their lives without the fear of God. It is wise to read and listen to his word.

  • @notxxr so you're saying we should all be terrified of his judgement all the time in order too survive as a society? ha, fuck off you loon.

    we'll do better as a society by being liberal and progressive than we will stewing in how people did things 2000 years ago. the fact that we've even GOT this far should be proof that God doesn't know what he's doing. if his divine word is the Bible, then if it was up to him we'd all still be walking around a desert in sandals and stoning women to death

  • @Stevie2Sxc The beginning of wisdom is the fear of God. To run ur life contrary to that is truly flirting with disaster. The fact that we have gotten this far is proof he knows what he is doing. Humans are a copy of a copy of a copy..... to the nth generation, and most of us are still walking and talking. Impossible to happen by chance. The penalty for sin is death. That is why Jesus came to the earth to pay the penalty for all the worlds sins, like adultery.

  • @notxxr bull. shit! the beginning of wisdom is intelligence, which has nothing to do with fearing an invisible skywizard. quite the opposite in fact. any free-thinking intelligent man can make his own theories about the world, not lean on what an old book tells him. doing THAT is just being stupid.

    and don't you see? the fact that we're here by chance is WHY we're so remarkable in ourselves. we are SO lucky, why do you want to give any credit to an invisible skywizard?

  • @Stevie2Sxc Give credit were credit is due. Intelligent to deny a creator? By chance? The Bible is accurate and proven correct time and again. The fact that it has predicted numerous world powers before there existence is undeniable. You think there is no God but believe in luck? How did we come to be? Were did the matter come from? How did we form symbiotic relationships? Is it wise to take the "chance" of judgement from God?

  • @notxxr Sure just like the both of us take the "chance" of being judged by the how many religions are there?

  • @MTWEmperor Don't worry about baloney religions. Fear God and his judgement which will happen to every single soul that ever lived. The only way to fellowship with God the Father is through Jesus the Son. Everything else is false, and God will attest to that during the judgment. There is nothing to worry about from the thousands of other false religions and bs in the world, bcause they are false.... peace

  • @notxxr Yeah yeah yeah, I was fed that crap when I was young. If people are going to be judged then let them have gay marriage and bad decisions. It's not YOUR job to judge. So leave people alone and stop preaching to people that don't want to hear it.

  • @MTWEmperor Stating the obvious is not judging. Watching the train wreck happen is one thing, but not trying to help the people before the crash is another. Plus whats wrong with telling somebody / anybody that disaster is coming? Why didn't u take in the belief of the Son of God when u were young? just curious

  • @notxxr You're now switching subjects. EVERY religion is supposed to be the "right" one you just happen to think urs is the right one because of some old book says so.(I could easily write the same thing) and there are plenty of books that say that theirs is the "right" one. You simply dismiss it because yours is the "right" one. That's avoiding the problem altogether.

  • @MTWEmperor I was just curious. The evil one wants to confuse all and one of the best ways is to "convince" people that there is no ever after. There always seems to be reasons to deny the Son of God. There are only two eternal options. Choose wisely!

  • @TatouSolitaire Its funny that one of the main arguments from the gay community always seems to be the “slave” verses. Funny since, even today, we are all slaves to sin. Funny because all the arguments come from the old covenant. The focus needs to be on the new covenant. This is what counts… For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, so that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. I believe and love the word of God. I hate not u

  • fuckin fags

  • I'm straight and people that say gays can't marry or that gays should go to hell make me 100% sick to my stomach. I am 14 years old and I go to a very homophobic highschool in California and I see so much hate and ignorance towards gays in my daily life that almost makes me cry. This Keith Olberman guy makes very good points and all the homophobic morons that go to my school should watch this video.

  • Every study says a child a natural family is the ideal environment.How do children get male & womanhood bonding available only in a natural marriage?Saying marriage is a civil right is an insult to Dr. King & Malcolm X.Sodomy is not a civil right.Dr. Robert Spitzer, who got this off the list of mental diseases in the 1980's said 2001: "I thought that homosexual behavior could be resisted but sexual orientation could not be changed. I now believe that's untrue some people can and do change"

  • @BlackRepublican2010 Ummm I have no idea what your trying to say..... Not to be rude but I couldn't read any of that the writing is too bad.

  • @13ackings If u really cared about homosexuals, u would pray to God that they change their ways, instead of condoning or excusing their disgusting practices.

  • @STRGATE7 Umm yeah... no way in hell i'm arguing about homosexuality with someone as close minded as you...

  • @13ackings ur high school can't b that much homophobic if its in California, there cant b that much hate an ignorance towards gays in California as u implied. I think ur just putting a spin on the issue. Do u even go to high school? bet ur prob just a fat, effeminate old man sittin in front of ur pc all day, trolling on youtube and downloading gay porn while u jerk ur little knob.

  • @STRGATE7 First off I live in placer county which is the most conservative county in the state. Which is way everyone is snooty and christian... Also I do go to highschool and i'm not fat. How about instead of making observations with no present evidence you buy the book 'how to argue for five year olds' because you suck at arguing. Also i'm straight and like gay people so assuming i'm gay because i'm supporting them is something my 10 year old brother would do. Grow up bro.

  • @13ackings I suck at arguing? then why don't u explain to me why u like gay people and support them? being "gay" specifically implies 2 men/2 women engaging in perverted behaviour (not tru intercourse) w/ one another, which is medically proven to increase viral infection, cause injury, and shorten life span. why do u support that? perhaps, is it bcuz the world's system tells u to support it, whether u like it or not? hmm.

  • @STRGATE7 The same can be said of heterosexual sex. In fact, lesbian sex is far less dangerous in all the ways you described than hetero sex. By your logic, men should never have sex and women should only have sex with each other. Not to mention, the majority of the 'world system' tells us to oppose gay marriage whether we like it or not. The people who oppose prop 8 aren't saying everyone has to gay marry, we're saying everyone can chose for themselves. Your arguments defeat themselves.

  • @razberryl so then it would be ok for me to marry my sister? or how about my mom? or my horse? thats what ur implying, aren't u, on account that u said "everyone can choose for themselves"? if u say those aren't ok, then thats a double standard. if u say those are ok, then u are vile. think about it, is it worse to marry ur pet animal than another person of ur gender? explain.

  • @STRGATE7 Close relatives cannot marry because of the danger of serious genetic defects in their children. Your horse is not a legal entity capable of making its own decisions, and so cannot perform a contract like marriage. These things do not apply to two consenting adults choosing to marry. Try again.

  • @razberryl history tells us that all the great empires (Babylon, Roman Empire) fell right during the time that their govts. started to allow homosexuality, bestiality, gay marriage. all the evidence is there: history, medical studies, societal breakdown right in front of our faces. marriage has always been man/woman, but when people decide to follow their lusts instead of the responsibility of a real marriage and producing/caring for their own children, then there's the breakdown.

  • @STRGATE7 WAIT WHAT??? Those empires fell because of war, disease and overexpansion and inflation not because of homosexuality. ARE YOU ON DRUGS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Like seriously that was the most historically unnacurate claim I have ever seen.

  • @razberryl i could argue with u for the next 10 yrs, but it would b a waste of time, troll. I made my point, and I'm sure those who seek the truth in Lord God and those who kno whats really happening in our world would agree with my posts. and make no mistake, some day soon our govt. will begin to allow beastiality marriage. so what if an animal cannot perform a marriage contract? If our govt can alter the original laws of marriage, then it can shape marriage any way we like