What he really means is that every dollar of snap benefits sucks $1.84 out of the private economy and redirects it to somewhere else in the economy. Thus, this is a net loss, not a net gain.
Well Einstein .. if giving money to food stamps helps stimulate the economy .By giving a dollar .it produces 1.85 .. Then why don't they give everyone a million bucks to buy cars,homes ,cruises . .. In fact give us each a billion .. make it a trillion .. If the economics works .then why isn't an official pounding at my door signing me for EBT to help this economy ..
And NO it's not just poor people who have bad eating habits. It's also spoiled kids who have rich parent who don't know how to say NO! when there kids wants McD's instead of a home cooked meal. Last time I checked food stamps can't buy you fast food [unless your homeless or disabled in some states] So blame the fat kids who are addicted to fast food because of there parents. It's not just the people on food stamps that are fat!
Think about this. If you took all the people off food stamps, then 42 million people would just simply stop buying food [because they can't afford it] meaning we wouldn't need as many people working to grow, produce or manufacture food. Meaning more people would be out of work. Then all those people who were on food stamps would go hungry and then become sick, meaning your tax money would go towards curing the poor instead of feeding them.
@Atheist2006 And just where do welfare dollars come from? Welfare doesn't stimulate the economy, it merely redirects private dollars through through the public trough.
@macsnafu Welfare does stimulate the economy. It is a transfer of wealth from the rich to the lower classes and it should encouraged. And the amount of wealth transferred is actually compounded by 1.8X the original amount. That 80% increase is the stimulus they are talking about.
I think food stamps should be abolished. Everyone in need should get cash on the barrelhead: $525 + rent + universal health care. If one is not willing to get a job within three years they should receive food stamps again (only upon condition that they are employable, of course).
What a fucking dumb ass. It ain't no stimulus. If it were then triple it and give it away to everyone so we get even more stimulus. Give me my food stamps so I can stimulate the economy. In fact, I want triple for triple the stimulus.
The fact that we have idiots like this in government is why the federal government is a fiscal mess.
Funny thing i saw this 600lb hog in walmart wearing some Fubu clothes with 5 kids and 3 carts full of junk food and soda, her total was like $400.00, She paid with an EBT card..
$1.00 in food stamps = $1.85 in stimulus? They sure think we are idiots. They are forgetting to account for the cost of administering the program, I am sure it is more than $.85 on the dollar. These are the geniuses that run our government. If the dollar was still mine to use, that would directly stimulate the economy and not be eaten up by the ag dept.
feeding rats and cockroaches only encourages them to breed more. Best to just cut them off and let nature take its course.
wean them back gradually, and then just make the silly fucks go cold turkey. It will be hard at first, and the silly fuckers will chimp out big time, but it will be better to do this sooner than later.
encouraging them by feeding them only makes for more misery.
Ridiculous and the most absurd and unacceptable sets of lies about growth of the economy yet! First of all, in the light of the 214 trillion of real debt that the USA has, 1 dollar will not grow into $1.84 cents simply because someone is on foodstamps! That is a piece of baloney - The people the stock and ship food to the grocery store are the same union workers that stock and ship and check out your food NOW! There is no food stamp worker shift and regular customer shift when buying food. LIAR!
If we don't vote Ron Paul in, I seriously will be leaving this country. Canada is a possibility but I need to look at the numbers. Make sure you are registered to vote in the primaries. That is all.
Wow, with "logic" like that why not claim criminals create jobs too? Someone has to catch the crooks, lawyers and judges have to give a trial, then prisons must be built, flip-flops manufactured, guards hired, lunches made, ect.........
This guy is out of his mind . He needs to stop using that Obama math !!! It just never adds up correctly . Where dose he think the money for the food stamp comes from ? And it dose not stimulate anything !
Weird does this moron understand we are borrowing the money to send to the deadbeats? Or has he ever owned or managed a private company and aid in creating a job?
The reason the aid has gone up is because the eligibility is now lower then it was in the past thus more people qualify for the handout. Now they have created a greater amount dependent on government hand outs in the hope for more democratic voters.
I guess the woman that I saw at the store with the t-shirt that said "I love my bed" as she bought $300 worth of groceries with food stamps didn't get that message.
Direct stimulus? Yes, it stimulates people to sit their fat @sses on their couch all day. Why work when the tax payers will pay to feed you and your kids? What a joke!
@JTHELSTROM Don't forget his aunt Zeituni Onyango, just like her kin a pure leach. Hasn't held a job and she is in section 8 housing in front of natural born Americans who rightfully deserve the help. Like the man and his cripples son who is currently being carried up the stairs to his bed, who was displaced by this bitch.
You have to have some kind of social safety net. It would be better if it were run at the local level and/or by the private sector. But the idea that food stamps help the economy has to be one of the most ass stupid statement that has ever come out of a human mouth!
"Someone's gotta stock it, shelve it, package it, process it, ship it." Those jobs are needed so those workers can pay taxes to support the SNAP program. And, soon we can all work for food.
@rawrlor that's the point. How does taking my dollar and giving it to someone else stimulate the economy? I would have spent that same dollar myself. How about getting rid of welfare ( or the entire department of agriculture for that matter) and eliminating minimum wage? That way I spend my hard earned dollar, would be welfare recipients can get jobs, albeit low paying, and employers can hire new employees. Now the government will have excess money to spend due to the increased revenue. Win
@Rawrlor Yes and Keynes was a fool. His theories have been proven failure after failure yet politicians who want power keep touting them for more power.
What a moron!! So, if every one becomes unemployed and starts using food stamps, where does the money come from to pay for the food stamps? We would go broke, because there would be no revenues generated! Oh, And let's not forget about his mention of adding more and more people on the food stamp program! That includes the illegal immingrants too! Let's just hand out food stamps for every poor person in the world! Obama will support them with his money printing machine!!
@bdatar You do know that not every single person on food stamps is unemployed right? Food stamps isn't meant to eliminate having to spend money on food, it's just meant to add to your monthly food budget. Some people only get 20 dollars in food stamps a month. I mean yes a lot of people on food stamps are homeless or unable to work [disabled] but implying that everyone on food stamps is unemployed is stupid.
@SarahSmiilez First off! I NEVER implied that everyone who collects FS is unemployed! Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension skills! I said, Quote: "If everyone becomes unemployed and starts collecting FS." If you haven't kept up on current events, our unemployment has risen to an all time high! Those people have to eat too! I'm not attacking the poor! I'm attacking the stupidity of this current admin. If you support socialism, you're vacuous, mindless and lacking motivation!
OBAMANOMICS = unbelievable (liberal) stupidity. Tax the rich! Social justice! Good lord these libtards are clueless as to how money and jobs are created. It was funny a year ago but now that we're well into the Obama Depression it's just downright sad how ignorant these people are about basic economics (and history).
The Ag Secretary assumes Americans are all idiots. Anyone with a brain knows every dollar of revenue collected does NOT equal one dollar to spend on programs. That would only be correct if all government employees worked for free. It probably requires more than $2 revenue for every $1 the government spends on food stamps by the time it gets collected and distributed.
First Nancy Pelosi says unemployment checks is the jobs creator. Jay Carney said the same thing. Now we have this idiot claiming that more jobs are created with more people on food stamps. If this was the case, unemployment should be at 0% since long-term unemployment is at Depression-era levels and a record number of Americans are on food stamps. Oh the liberal mind.
This is why Politicians should be forced to take remedial math before assuming office. Foodstamps DON'T create jobs! At "best" they can try to maintain existing jobs in Grocery Store and Farm Labor employment.
Impossible!!!! For every 2 dollars you take from a TAX PAYING AMERICAN you get $1 dollar in food stamps for a LESS FORTUNATE AMERICAN, so you automatically lose a dollar in government waste in running the program. Your no creating anything and no profit is happening, you have to have PROFIT for the economy to grow!!!!
Say you have $5. You buy a book from Paul for $5. Paul buys a CD from Bob for $5. Bob buys a watch from Tim for $5.
This is how $5 can generate $15 in economic activity. He's not claiming it creates money out of thin air. If people who use food stamps would buy less food without the stamps, then he's correct in saying that it stimulates the economy. Why would the government putting money into the economy NOT stimulate it?
@Snorbuckle The fact that one in seven Americans are on food stamps is an indication of the dire lack of jobs. The alleged economic stimulus created by food stamps is wiped out by the drain on the economy caused by the chronically unemployed. They require unemployment insurance, welfare, and other assistance, and the amount they spend with their food stamps is tiny compared to what they would spend if they were employed. Vilsack is indulging in ridiculous happy-talk to fool you.
@Snorbuckle Not when the government is taking that $15 dollars from the taxpayers and giving it to Paul, Bob and Tim to buy these items. If this scheme stimulated the economy, the economic numbers would be better since we have more people out of work and a record number of people on food stamps. The government is pulling money by increasing the deficit. They're in the red. The taxpayers are screwed twice by this progressive redistribution of wealth scam.
@Snorbuckle And if you first steal that $5 from Sally who would have bought food from Sam who wanted to get his window glazed by Steve, who needed to buy Gas from Joshua... you've destroyed $20 of economic activity.
But hey, lets ignore the downside of this and pretend the money magically appeared in your hand... then it's always a net gain. And if I ignore my expenditures I make money every month too.
Tell me this douche bag isn't serious? Government jobs are not positive growth, let those who pay taxes keep that money, and they can HAND the needy the same amount their getting in value from the food stamps, AND hire more people with it than the government does to administer this program.
what an idiot.... this is just like the claim that women earn $0.75 for every $1 an equal man earns.... ok brainiacs.... start a company.... hire only women.... and you'll get an additional 25% profit compared to your competitors.... it's so simple, why isn't everyone doing it...
SO! = It is un-american to work and pay for food with earned money! If you stopped working and paid for everything in food stamps. Our country would not be in this situation huh? And this is just the tip of Obama idiot clueless loons and drunken dufous dim dunce administration. All living off government debt. Sadly the debt train has stalled and has no more money to run it ....*boink*
Ok so it generates $1.84 in the economy, I wonder how they got that figure. Also, I wonder if that figure is taking into consideration the people who sell their food stamps for $0.50 (or less) on the dollar to buy other things, trying to figure out if I can use some CHAOS MATHEMATICS here.
Who is paying for these food stamps? It is not the federal government. It's the American people. The government does not have $, the government takes $ from the workersd gives it to the non workers. Iunderstand some truly need a helping hand, which is fine.
What you see in London is coming to America, if we do not get away from government being the answer to all problems.
Wake up, know our history, take a stand and vote out all incumbents in 2012 (Rs and Ds).
With record numbers of Americans needing food stamps, Obama’s Ag secretary says its a great stimulus to the economy. Maybe we should just give everyone food stamps and then we would have a booming economy. With people like this on the “jobs” job we are in deep kimshee. Where did he find these nuts? Are they all former ACORN employees?
Read: "Talk is not so cheap with Obama’s jobs lies"
"Another Democrat rails against the anti-business president"
So, Mr. Secretary, if putting people on food stamps creates jobs, and a record number of people are on food stamps, how come the unemployment numbers didn't go down as the number of people on food stamps went up?
Why do'nt you put the whole country on food stamps, get real Mr.Secratary you guys have no clue what you are doing and take for example all economists in white house have run for cover, and all Indians working for White House have dis appeared. I thing if Michele was allowed she will run too.
Sounds like a trickle down poverty plan to me. If we all get on food stamps and welfare, we'll be a part of the Presidents "Share the wealth" plan. Obama makes me think of that little cartoon character that says " I WANT TO RULE THE WORLD"! I just get so excited thinking about it all! ;(
If every dollar in food stamps generates $1.84 in economic activity, then the U.S. economy could grow at 84% just by putting all Americans on food stamps. This guy is a moron. First, every dollar in food stamps is generated by taking MORE than a dollar out of the pockets of taxpayers (more, in order to cover the cost of the food stamps bureaucracy), or by borrowing more than a dollar from China (more, due to interest payments). This HURTS the economy, not helps it.
Food Stamps Build Space Ships
Food Stamps Help You Fly
Food Stamps Fuel The Sun
Food Stamps Help Abort Unwanted Children...and...It Hurts
FreeMarketCap 10 hours ago
What he really means is that every dollar of snap benefits sucks $1.84 out of the private economy and redirects it to somewhere else in the economy. Thus, this is a net loss, not a net gain.
macsnafu 4 weeks ago
If food stamps create so many jobs and unemployment checks create so many jobs, why has unemployment been so high under Obama and these cronies?
NCMan28025 1 month ago
The law of depreciating returns. Seems to be the wasting of money on the education of people that end a sentence in Duh ..
ivoryalpha 4 months ago
socialistic assholes
cparadise2011 5 months ago
Well Einstein .. if giving money to food stamps helps stimulate the economy .By giving a dollar .it produces 1.85 .. Then why don't they give everyone a million bucks to buy cars,homes ,cruises . .. In fact give us each a billion .. make it a trillion .. If the economics works .then why isn't an official pounding at my door signing me for EBT to help this economy ..
ivoryalpha 5 months ago
@ivoryalpha Because there is a law of depreciating returns. Duh.
ashstone503 4 months ago
And NO it's not just poor people who have bad eating habits. It's also spoiled kids who have rich parent who don't know how to say NO! when there kids wants McD's instead of a home cooked meal. Last time I checked food stamps can't buy you fast food [unless your homeless or disabled in some states] So blame the fat kids who are addicted to fast food because of there parents. It's not just the people on food stamps that are fat!
SarahSmiilez 5 months ago
Think about this. If you took all the people off food stamps, then 42 million people would just simply stop buying food [because they can't afford it] meaning we wouldn't need as many people working to grow, produce or manufacture food. Meaning more people would be out of work. Then all those people who were on food stamps would go hungry and then become sick, meaning your tax money would go towards curing the poor instead of feeding them.
SarahSmiilez 5 months ago
I wish I could reply to each and everyone. So, for you all:
Welfare policy is indeed a stimulus to growth. Not only most European countries have been proving this fact for centuries, but also FDR and LBJ.
Unfortunately it's hard to bring arguments forward to economically incompetent tea baggers.
Atheist2006 6 months ago 2
@Atheist2006 And just where do welfare dollars come from? Welfare doesn't stimulate the economy, it merely redirects private dollars through through the public trough.
macsnafu 4 weeks ago
@macsnafu Welfare does stimulate the economy. It is a transfer of wealth from the rich to the lower classes and it should encouraged. And the amount of wealth transferred is actually compounded by 1.8X the original amount. That 80% increase is the stimulus they are talking about.
nkelly1432 3 weeks ago
@nkelly1432 Sorry. The rich know how to minimize their taxes, so the bulk of the redistribution is NOT from the rich.
macsnafu 3 weeks ago
@macsnafu yes they minimize their taxes like Mitt Romney lol
nkelly1432 3 weeks ago
@Atheist2006
european is mess with their debt and fdr policies never worked
even sweden had to reduce their taxes
you keynesian liar
RIEKSONE 4 weeks ago
I think food stamps should be abolished. Everyone in need should get cash on the barrelhead: $525 + rent + universal health care. If one is not willing to get a job within three years they should receive food stamps again (only upon condition that they are employable, of course).
Atheist2006 6 months ago 5
What a fucking dumb ass. It ain't no stimulus. If it were then triple it and give it away to everyone so we get even more stimulus. Give me my food stamps so I can stimulate the economy. In fact, I want triple for triple the stimulus.
The fact that we have idiots like this in government is why the federal government is a fiscal mess.
666sigma 6 months ago 2
oh, that is how it works......that explains everything??... NOT!!.......
our Government at work
does 1+1 still = 2 ? OR is that the old math...
meltdown53 6 months ago
Here you go. This is the kind of economic asinine thinking this administration perpetuates. F*cking idiots.
EdMan2012 6 months ago 2
This administration is out of it's cotton picking mind!
StinkFingerr 6 months ago
obamao will come back and announce we will all be put on food stamps.
this is his idea of a "jobs" initiative.
wolfgangfaust 6 months ago 2
Funny thing i saw this 600lb hog in walmart wearing some Fubu clothes with 5 kids and 3 carts full of junk food and soda, her total was like $400.00, She paid with an EBT card..
arkivx1 6 months ago
$1.00 in food stamps = $1.85 in stimulus? They sure think we are idiots. They are forgetting to account for the cost of administering the program, I am sure it is more than $.85 on the dollar. These are the geniuses that run our government. If the dollar was still mine to use, that would directly stimulate the economy and not be eaten up by the ag dept.
tommgoflyons 6 months ago
More People On Food Stamps Means More Jobs
Is this the new Obama campaign slogan for 2012.
Remember, his press secretary says that unemployment creates jobs.
What an administration we have here!
ladylordess 6 months ago
Where is that goose that's laying all those golden eggs? That money for the food stamps comes from somewhere.
n68firebird 6 months ago
feeding rats and cockroaches only encourages them to breed more. Best to just cut them off and let nature take its course.
wean them back gradually, and then just make the silly fucks go cold turkey. It will be hard at first, and the silly fuckers will chimp out big time, but it will be better to do this sooner than later.
encouraging them by feeding them only makes for more misery.
wiseBRILLIANTgenius 6 months ago
If you assholes vote Obama back into office in 2012...
You deserve everything you get.
donnygoat 6 months ago
Really dumb man what a sad state our government is in.
quizerry 6 months ago
This is just how plain STUPID this administration is!
rainiertx 6 months ago
SCHMUCKS !
keithmobile73 6 months ago
Ridiculous and the most absurd and unacceptable sets of lies about growth of the economy yet! First of all, in the light of the 214 trillion of real debt that the USA has, 1 dollar will not grow into $1.84 cents simply because someone is on foodstamps! That is a piece of baloney - The people the stock and ship food to the grocery store are the same union workers that stock and ship and check out your food NOW! There is no food stamp worker shift and regular customer shift when buying food. LIAR!
chaserUSA48 6 months ago
@chaserUSA48 more bullshit being peddled by the liar in chief comrade obama
100crawma 6 months ago
If we don't vote Ron Paul in, I seriously will be leaving this country. Canada is a possibility but I need to look at the numbers. Make sure you are registered to vote in the primaries. That is all.
gotitans999 6 months ago 3
@gotitans999 move to switzerland. they are movng back to sound money. or go to NH, lot's of lbertarians there.
sharinganclan213 6 months ago
Wow, with "logic" like that why not claim criminals create jobs too? Someone has to catch the crooks, lawyers and judges have to give a trial, then prisons must be built, flip-flops manufactured, guards hired, lunches made, ect.........
dlucas90 6 months ago 2
People don't produce goods & services when given food stamps, but those people do consume goods & services using food stamps.
Arguments about money and 'economic stimulus' are WORTHLESS unless they account for changes to ~actual~ economic production, i.e. goods & services.
DOHC2L 6 months ago
Redistribution of wealth is not a stimulus.
jackburton2009 6 months ago
This guy is out of his mind . He needs to stop using that Obama math !!! It just never adds up correctly . Where dose he think the money for the food stamp comes from ? And it dose not stimulate anything !
lhr1701 6 months ago
Weird does this moron understand we are borrowing the money to send to the deadbeats? Or has he ever owned or managed a private company and aid in creating a job?
The reason the aid has gone up is because the eligibility is now lower then it was in the past thus more people qualify for the handout. Now they have created a greater amount dependent on government hand outs in the hope for more democratic voters.
hoppyman50 6 months ago
You have to be jackin' me, that's not a solution you freakin' morons!
dpChristianmusic 6 months ago
Puts people back to work?? LMFAO.
I guess the woman that I saw at the store with the t-shirt that said "I love my bed" as she bought $300 worth of groceries with food stamps didn't get that message.
Direct stimulus? Yes, it stimulates people to sit their fat @sses on their couch all day. Why work when the tax payers will pay to feed you and your kids? What a joke!
toria555 6 months ago
It's time to impeach this asshole and put him and his baby-mama on foodstamps.
JTHELSTROM 6 months ago
@JTHELSTROM Don't forget his aunt Zeituni Onyango, just like her kin a pure leach. Hasn't held a job and she is in section 8 housing in front of natural born Americans who rightfully deserve the help. Like the man and his cripples son who is currently being carried up the stairs to his bed, who was displaced by this bitch.
hoppyman50 6 months ago 3
If Nancy Pelosi gets to say the exact same thing, I don't see why we'd hold this guy to any higher standard..
gotweird 6 months ago
just a typical left wing whack job. scary these clowns are actually in seats of power in this country.
uzimodem 6 months ago
WHAT A FUCKING MORON!!!
trick29420 6 months ago
socialism is not the answer kids
100crawma 6 months ago 2
boy o boy comrade obama is a bigger failure than i imagined
100crawma 6 months ago
yes asshat lets just go to our magic money tree to pay for all the freebees that comrade obamas adminst. thinks are economic stimulis
100crawma 6 months ago
Unbelievable. This man should be fired immediately for total incompetence.
quizerry 6 months ago
You have to have some kind of social safety net. It would be better if it were run at the local level and/or by the private sector. But the idea that food stamps help the economy has to be one of the most ass stupid statement that has ever come out of a human mouth!
BARANDONM 6 months ago
wtf.....yeah right....like fish from china, fruit from brazil, tomatoes from spain.....what a fucking tard!
MHOGAN9712 6 months ago
"Someone's gotta stock it, shelve it, package it, process it, ship it." Those jobs are needed so those workers can pay taxes to support the SNAP program. And, soon we can all work for food.
beckweth 6 months ago
@rawrlor that's the point. How does taking my dollar and giving it to someone else stimulate the economy? I would have spent that same dollar myself. How about getting rid of welfare ( or the entire department of agriculture for that matter) and eliminating minimum wage? That way I spend my hard earned dollar, would be welfare recipients can get jobs, albeit low paying, and employers can hire new employees. Now the government will have excess money to spend due to the increased revenue. Win
FCCOH 6 months ago
@FCCOH I totally agree and while we are at it let eliminate the Dept of Education and Dept of Energy both are proven huge failure.
quizerry 6 months ago
Lets us not forget what a boon this is to Goldman Sachs who profits off the program through their food stamp debit cards.
beckweth 6 months ago
So fucked in the head - his brains have been sucked out by Satan. See - there is a devil.
beckweth 6 months ago
For all the Republicunts here: Tom Vilsack is correct.
Food stamps are commonly regarded in Keynesian economics as stimulus.
Rawrlor 6 months ago
@Rawrlor Yes and Keynes was a fool. His theories have been proven failure after failure yet politicians who want power keep touting them for more power.
quizerry 6 months ago
What a moron!! So, if every one becomes unemployed and starts using food stamps, where does the money come from to pay for the food stamps? We would go broke, because there would be no revenues generated! Oh, And let's not forget about his mention of adding more and more people on the food stamp program! That includes the illegal immingrants too! Let's just hand out food stamps for every poor person in the world! Obama will support them with his money printing machine!!
bdatar 6 months ago
@bdatar You do know that not every single person on food stamps is unemployed right? Food stamps isn't meant to eliminate having to spend money on food, it's just meant to add to your monthly food budget. Some people only get 20 dollars in food stamps a month. I mean yes a lot of people on food stamps are homeless or unable to work [disabled] but implying that everyone on food stamps is unemployed is stupid.
SarahSmiilez 5 months ago
@SarahSmiilez First off! I NEVER implied that everyone who collects FS is unemployed! Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension skills! I said, Quote: "If everyone becomes unemployed and starts collecting FS." If you haven't kept up on current events, our unemployment has risen to an all time high! Those people have to eat too! I'm not attacking the poor! I'm attacking the stupidity of this current admin. If you support socialism, you're vacuous, mindless and lacking motivation!
bdatar 5 months ago
trickle up poverty
astronato 6 months ago 3
Did you hear that America? This admin is brilliant. Who knew? FOOD STAMPS FOR EVERYONE and we will be thriving again.
TheYoungTurdz 6 months ago 3
I can't believe he actually fucking said THAT!
He just passed the litmus test to become: Professor of 0bamanomics at Chi-town U.
ObaManure 6 months ago 2
Crazy communist motherfuckers running this Country into the 7th circle of Hell.
66752063686172 6 months ago 6
I'm going to either buy shares in a guillotine company, or I'll start one up myself, because if this continues, guillotines will be high in demand.
Edohiguma 6 months ago
Think how booming our economy would be if space aliens invaded while simultaneously handing out food stamps.
Elyoric 6 months ago
OBAMANOMICS = unbelievable (liberal) stupidity. Tax the rich! Social justice! Good lord these libtards are clueless as to how money and jobs are created. It was funny a year ago but now that we're well into the Obama Depression it's just downright sad how ignorant these people are about basic economics (and history).
Orchard6773 6 months ago 2
The Ag Secretary assumes Americans are all idiots. Anyone with a brain knows every dollar of revenue collected does NOT equal one dollar to spend on programs. That would only be correct if all government employees worked for free. It probably requires more than $2 revenue for every $1 the government spends on food stamps by the time it gets collected and distributed.
1990notch 6 months ago
First Nancy Pelosi says unemployment checks is the jobs creator. Jay Carney said the same thing. Now we have this idiot claiming that more jobs are created with more people on food stamps. If this was the case, unemployment should be at 0% since long-term unemployment is at Depression-era levels and a record number of Americans are on food stamps. Oh the liberal mind.
NCMan28025 6 months ago
This is why Politicians should be forced to take remedial math before assuming office. Foodstamps DON'T create jobs! At "best" they can try to maintain existing jobs in Grocery Store and Farm Labor employment.
F500Driver 6 months ago
I don't get it? How does this stimulate the economy?
sibzianna 6 months ago
@sibzianna................ Careful...Obama will just call you uneducated.
CaliforniaCarol 6 months ago
More ObamaMath
HangProgressives 6 months ago
Impossible!!!! For every 2 dollars you take from a TAX PAYING AMERICAN you get $1 dollar in food stamps for a LESS FORTUNATE AMERICAN, so you automatically lose a dollar in government waste in running the program. Your no creating anything and no profit is happening, you have to have PROFIT for the economy to grow!!!!
GaInGrEEnATL 6 months ago
Say you have $5. You buy a book from Paul for $5. Paul buys a CD from Bob for $5. Bob buys a watch from Tim for $5.
This is how $5 can generate $15 in economic activity. He's not claiming it creates money out of thin air. If people who use food stamps would buy less food without the stamps, then he's correct in saying that it stimulates the economy. Why would the government putting money into the economy NOT stimulate it?
Snorbuckle 6 months ago
@Snorbuckle The fact that one in seven Americans are on food stamps is an indication of the dire lack of jobs. The alleged economic stimulus created by food stamps is wiped out by the drain on the economy caused by the chronically unemployed. They require unemployment insurance, welfare, and other assistance, and the amount they spend with their food stamps is tiny compared to what they would spend if they were employed. Vilsack is indulging in ridiculous happy-talk to fool you.
fishteeth2 6 months ago
@Snorbuckle Not when the government is taking that $15 dollars from the taxpayers and giving it to Paul, Bob and Tim to buy these items. If this scheme stimulated the economy, the economic numbers would be better since we have more people out of work and a record number of people on food stamps. The government is pulling money by increasing the deficit. They're in the red. The taxpayers are screwed twice by this progressive redistribution of wealth scam.
NCMan28025 6 months ago
@Snorbuckle And if you first steal that $5 from Sally who would have bought food from Sam who wanted to get his window glazed by Steve, who needed to buy Gas from Joshua... you've destroyed $20 of economic activity.
But hey, lets ignore the downside of this and pretend the money magically appeared in your hand... then it's always a net gain. And if I ignore my expenditures I make money every month too.
gekkobear 6 months ago
liberalism is a mental disorder - Michael Savage
thejollylamas 6 months ago
Tell me this douche bag isn't serious? Government jobs are not positive growth, let those who pay taxes keep that money, and they can HAND the needy the same amount their getting in value from the food stamps, AND hire more people with it than the government does to administer this program.
pimpdalyrical 6 months ago 2
I'm helping the economy and quitting my job.
anthonyjctpa 6 months ago
Just another reason for the lazy to stay that way and not try to find a job.
crump02072000 6 months ago
WOW
midasman68 6 months ago
"We've always been at war with Eastasia"
Orwell would be proud of this guy.
InfraRedNeck 6 months ago
WELL LETS JUST ALL GO ON FOOD STAMPS AND THIS COUNTRY WILL BE BOOMING.
LIBERALS ARE STUPID
TEHTYMEKITTEH1 6 months ago
what an idiot.... this is just like the claim that women earn $0.75 for every $1 an equal man earns.... ok brainiacs.... start a company.... hire only women.... and you'll get an additional 25% profit compared to your competitors.... it's so simple, why isn't everyone doing it...
mlewis1973 6 months ago 3
SO! = It is un-american to work and pay for food with earned money! If you stopped working and paid for everything in food stamps. Our country would not be in this situation huh? And this is just the tip of Obama idiot clueless loons and drunken dufous dim dunce administration. All living off government debt. Sadly the debt train has stalled and has no more money to run it ....*boink*
memama2 6 months ago
Ok so it generates $1.84 in the economy, I wonder how they got that figure. Also, I wonder if that figure is taking into consideration the people who sell their food stamps for $0.50 (or less) on the dollar to buy other things, trying to figure out if I can use some CHAOS MATHEMATICS here.
kerrydb 6 months ago
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@kerrydb "Ok so it generates $1.84 in the economy, I wonder how they got that figure."
They did what Obama and his entire administration do with all their statistics: Pulled it right out of their you-know-whats.
fishteeth2 6 months ago
Who is paying for these food stamps? It is not the federal government. It's the American people. The government does not have $, the government takes $ from the workersd gives it to the non workers. Iunderstand some truly need a helping hand, which is fine.
What you see in London is coming to America, if we do not get away from government being the answer to all problems.
Wake up, know our history, take a stand and vote out all incumbents in 2012 (Rs and Ds).
SignOfTheDollar100 6 months ago 3
And these people get elected?
TheSeanMichaeltion 6 months ago
@TheSeanMichaeltion No, I think he was appointed.
LODGE4444 6 months ago
With record numbers of Americans needing food stamps, Obama’s Ag secretary says its a great stimulus to the economy. Maybe we should just give everyone food stamps and then we would have a booming economy. With people like this on the “jobs” job we are in deep kimshee. Where did he find these nuts? Are they all former ACORN employees?
Read: "Talk is not so cheap with Obama’s jobs lies"
"Another Democrat rails against the anti-business president"
"More people realizing Obama IS a socialist"
usactionnewsdotcom 6 months ago 3
So, Mr. Secretary, if putting people on food stamps creates jobs, and a record number of people are on food stamps, how come the unemployment numbers didn't go down as the number of people on food stamps went up?
fishteeth2 6 months ago
Why do'nt you put the whole country on food stamps, get real Mr.Secratary you guys have no clue what you are doing and take for example all economists in white house have run for cover, and all Indians working for White House have dis appeared. I thing if Michele was allowed she will run too.
bholadonna 6 months ago
The most direct stimulus you can get is watching porn, NOT giving free money ( food stamps) to people who don't work.
LODGE4444 6 months ago
His point makes perfect se- *BWAHAH*.. sorry, I couldn't do it
groquecrushridge 6 months ago
right up there with krugman and stimulus through alien invasions.
vllmer 6 months ago
Absurd....and these guys are in charge. We're in deep trouble.
OnlyMyAlias 6 months ago
You have to spin spin EPIC FAIL somehow.
kerrydb 6 months ago
what an idiot!
rTxMoNsTeRz 6 months ago 2
Stupidest thing I have ever heard.
3591prg 6 months ago 2
Sounds like a trickle down poverty plan to me. If we all get on food stamps and welfare, we'll be a part of the Presidents "Share the wealth" plan. Obama makes me think of that little cartoon character that says " I WANT TO RULE THE WORLD"! I just get so excited thinking about it all! ;(
kayjay70 6 months ago 10
God help us all!
bobo32000 6 months ago 2
If every dollar in food stamps generates $1.84 in economic activity, then the U.S. economy could grow at 84% just by putting all Americans on food stamps. This guy is a moron. First, every dollar in food stamps is generated by taking MORE than a dollar out of the pockets of taxpayers (more, in order to cover the cost of the food stamps bureaucracy), or by borrowing more than a dollar from China (more, due to interest payments). This HURTS the economy, not helps it.
billhobbs 6 months ago 50
@billhobbs hurts, help, whatever dude, we're buying votes here that's all.
sevenzdown 6 months ago