This is one of the dumbest things on youtube ever. I so agree with the educated folks that President Obama is the best President we've had in 40 years and is going to be remembered as a kind, gentle man.
There is a major lack of forthcoming information from Hawaii when it comes to Obama and his non-existing birth certificate. It is a sad day in America when the supporters of Obama only rebuttals is personal attacks of vulgar language and/or calling someone a racist in a feeble attempt to distract from the underling truth.
“Though one proceeds to strike oneself over the head with a book and receives a hollow thump, does not necessarily mean that the book is empty”!
For the blind followers of this lying administration, please explain to me just why I should believe Obama’s so called long form birth certificate when it states that in 1961 he was born in a hospital that was not in existence until 1978! You cannot get past this one single item of miss information that proves beyond any doubt that Obama’s long form birth certificate from Hawaii is a forgery. “The Truth Shall Set You Free”!
Ask shitbag O'Reilly and Beck why he is such a dirty liar. Susan Daniels and Jerome Corsi will explain. Corsi, on May 17, 2011, Susan, a little sooner, but Susan will have to go to the public to get her truth out. Corsi will get his devastating book out on the 17th. Hold onto your hats, America is coming back. Beck and O'reilly are finished. God bless Susan and Jerome.
Go to code XcWQw2AAIho explains that all these layers means nothing the certificate is legit. The test in a German Certificate. All this talk is nonesense.
No video at YT or the media is saying that Obamas' Certificate is legit, that is not fair and balanced. I am neutral & layman trying to get the truth.
Google - Expert : No Doubt Obamas Birth Certificatei s Legit - Fox News
Mr. Trump. I love your tenacity and your guts for going up against the hatefreaks that attack you as being a "racist" (because that's all they can do since the truth is not on their side). However, I sincerely hope you'll have the so-called birth certificate looked at VERY closely by (actual) experts and not let the racists and liberal pigs pressure you into backing off from this incredibly important issue.
Keep the fire to the Kenyan's feet! We shall overcome!
Fake! and it doen't matter. His father was a British citizen . Read the Constitution. His Mother was not old enough(18) and lived in the U.S for more then 5 years over age of 14. He is not eligible to be Natural Born
to me, the guy who discovered the tiny spot that says photoshop no? is enough proof for me that , of course, its a fake, why in the hell would someone spend two million dollars to hide that fact, than after the money is spent, say, oh look, everyone, it was under my shoe the whole time, haha
So it's okay for a white Panamanian to run for President, but not okay for a half black man born in Hawaii to run for the same office?? For some, this is a racial issue, and for others, it's just the only think that they can think of to get him out of office. If they had any dirt on Obama, they would put it out there, but obviously, there is nothing bad that they can say about him, so they are grasping at straws.
You say that as if you were in the same room with Obama's mother when she gave birth to him, and again when she arrived in Hawaii. And by the way, do you also take issue with McCaine because he was born in the Panama Canal zone? The Panama Canal is NOT in the United States. The Government was just there to construct and they took control. In 1999 the Panama Canal has been run by the Panama Canal Authority. It was never a part of the United States.
If I was born in USA, have a none american name, run for a government office, and people DOUBTS that I was born here, I WOULD SHOW MY CERTIFICATE to shot EVERYONE'S mouth, period!!
ah birthers.....you never fail to make me laugh. you fail at everything else, though. funny that you're really just sore losers and you have no real evidence.
btw....Hawaii became a state in 1959. Obama born there in 1961. Therefore....he was born in America.
@kuwinsitall I AM NOT a birther. I argued that Obama was a citizen. I have held to that and have told many that this was a right wing ploy. Today? From a very good friend of mine who is a Democrat from my district sent me the copy of the document that is going to change the world. I SEEN his birth certificate. He was born in the Coast Province General Hospital, Mombasa British Protectorate of Kenya. Certificate document 32018. Doctor attending was James O. W. Ang'Awa. It will come out now.
So....you're not a birther......but you believe that some forgery off of ebay is legit?
Proof? Mombasa was part of Zanzibar until 1963. There's about 10 other things obviously wrong about the certificate.
Do you have critical thinking skills or do you just swallow any crap people shove out? I bet you think we didn't land on the moon because you saw some jerkoff on youtube talk about it, huh?
You should take a long hard look in the mirror and ask yourself...."Why am I wasting my time? I should just go out and get a life and not spend all day on the internet believing thoroughly debunked conspiracy theories."
Go get some ice cream, a nice book and enjoy your day. Obama is a citizen. It's that simple.
@kuwinsitall I do not spend my time on the internet. I have to work to pay for the leftists entitlement programs for those who do not work. Secondly, I did believe as you did, that he was a citizen. I no longer believe that. I believe that this is the biggest scam in American history. I believe an 18 year old girl made a mistake and her son was born in a foreign country. That is all there is to it.
Yes, we all work. I have 2 jobs. That has nothing to do with the fact that the Prez is a citizen. I'm a history teacher.....i suggest you go to university and I'll teach you how citizenship works. I'll also teach you how to use your critical thinking skills and learn when to call BS. You've swung and missed here, buddy.
@kuwinsitall You are a history teacher? Right there you are worthless. You are a useless overpaid government employee. One that couldn't last a second in competition. In fact, my daughter was homeschooled to get her away from the worthless government employee. DO NOT COMMENT BACK TO ME. I truly think that the education of this country is filled with the biggest morons our countries have to offer. GET LOST YOU SCHMUCK
@kuwinsitall Lol. My daughter is 17 and she has graduated and is attending Vanderbilt this fall. My qualifications? Do you mean my education? I've had 7 years of school. I hold 2 separate degrees. One in Comp Sci the other in Economics. I went to Mizzou, UMSL and then Wash U. And no, other than advising a local panel on the Cities economic plans on occasion, I do not work in either of those industries. I am a professional studio musician. I make 3 figures a year playing a guitar. Love capitalism
Nothing wrong with capitalism. I work at a PRIVATE university---Marquette.
So I'm sure we both have plenty of education.....but you need to put yours to work and stop believing birther myths. No wonder....you went to Mizzou....
@kuwinsitall It isn't far suspended from reality. It very well could be that he was born in Kenya. I am sure you are a liberal. So, you will stand behind Obama no matter what. You more than likely tell your students your agendist views. Am I correct in that? I am not picking a fight. I am merely asking.
@kuwinsitall I am not done with you yet. I want you to know something. I am actively right now involved with a movement to pull Federal Funding from public schools if the parents decide to home school their children. A 12,000 tax credit is pulled from the school and goes directly to the families. What does that mean? Competition. A crash course in competition for the government monopoly teacher. Less and less need for public education is what we need. NOT MORE>
@SuperGuitarman69 Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett examined a copy of President Obama’s published Certification of Live Birth and said that its contents meet the requirements of the Arizona birther bill, HB2177, which was passed by the Arizona house last Thursday and is headed to the governor for signature. Bennett stated the hospital, physician and witness signatures mentioned in the bill are not absolute requirements, but only required “if applicable
@kuwinsitall I believe Obama's mother, only being 18 at the time was in Kenya. She was smart enough to know that he needed to be born in America, but she didnt make the move home quick enough. So right after he was born she went to Hawaii. But he indeed was born in Kenya
Tucson's Representatives to Congress will be receiving a phone call tomorrow ON AIR, to discuss why Lucas Daniel Smith's assertion by certified mail of Obama's Birth not accorded the courtesy of a response....stirring the soup on the Ex-CONservative Radio Hour....google it...tomorrow 1-3 est. call in 347-677-1563 to participate or to listen not using a computer...
@kiffter Illinois' State Lottery drew 666 on Obama's victory-day. Nothing can match that - it clinches the choice for Antichrist. Browse this video's name, it's good and it's old already, he made it last year. "Is Obama the Antichrist? Ummmm...don't know..."
End for Obama. So we have to move fast. Spread to all.
We should get all these good people together and bust Obama now.
The Antichrist's 42 months run out in May 2011. Let's start pushing the fires burning his ass! His time is in 4 months
True Story: The Mormon Hierarchy recently visited Obamanation. They left him a 5 vol set of his family tree!. "You" don't know the Mormon Hierarchy. I do: On 911, out of a clear sky&full moon, 120+ women,children& 35men were psyoped with a False Flag& Freemason signs of Peace, convinced to relinquish their arms, separated and systematically and ritually murdered.911-1857. 144 yrs later was WTC Mega Ritual.Obama just had his balls handed to him: When the Hierarchy does Geneology they got U. Kenya
Mute Point actually. In 2010 we will see the truth and the results of that truth. The watchtowers will be empty and the house of cards will fall. America will be left without a leader and anarchy will ensue. Congress is powerless to do anything without the signature of the president and we will have removed not only Obama but his running mate and all candidates by rendering the events up to the election as null and void. Noone will be able to take office.
Clarity023... I don't smoke pot, and I have no idea what a birther is... though i have 5 kids if that counts... I just pass on what I see.......and write...... I voted for Obama. I stood behind my decision then and I stand behind my decision now. What is to come must happen under and by his hand. But, I see what I see.... no... I'm not a nutcase. I personally hope he succeeds.
Yes, Cassidy... we weren't taught that in school... Not exactly young here lol. But it's a mute point either way. IF the theorists get their way, there'll be civil war before year's end.
LetsNotBeL7... why is letsget2thetruth a "ignorant" big B? simply because he wishes to have a viable, comprehensive answer? Though I don't share his belief that Obama is an illegal president, I do understand and agree with the many questions that arise from the deceit on both sides of the coin. In any case, he said nothing that required you to be rude and ignorant in your response.
@LOVETHEONELOVE and you are so fucking brain washed it is pathetic how stupid you people can be. Never questioning anything that is told to you. I bet if BO said the sky was green you would believe that too.
I think/believe that once he is finally busted as an illegal alien in possession of the presidency (made up) he and those involved will all be prosecuted. The DNC, the congress, the VP, the speaker will all go down for aiding and abetting or conspiracy to commint fraud or something along those lines. They are all involved. What about the Dem judges that have been throwing out lawsuits for no reason relating to Obama's birth? they, too will have to go. All the fucking liars will go!
To clctah: I have a deal for you! I have some really nice lakefront real estate on Mars that I can get you for a steal! Not interested in Mars? how about your very own bridge in Brooklyn? You'll be the envy of all your friends as you administer your very own bridge! Howe about charging a tol upon entry to your cool bridge? Can you say "Cha-Ching?" Oh yeah baby, you will be on your way!
This is very interesting to see. The document that is the foundation of the US values is being circumvented by creative yet well paid lawyers. The US has become so polarized that many of the Dems. would defend Obama with their dying breath even if there was a video of him running naked through a mall shooting people and many Reps. would like to see him hung on capital steps before he was tried. I asked a simple question: Why is he hiding this? I dont get answers I get: Get over it or Move on.
14 reasons to doubt Obama's so called birth certificate. Registered #-NONE Registration district#- NONE Child's birth#-NONE Father's place of birth-NONE Mother's place of birth-NONE Father's occupation-NONE Signature of registrar-NONE Name of hospital-NONE Name of doctor-NONE Name of witness or registrar-NONE Raised seal-NONE Doctor's license#-NONE State the doctor is licensed in?-NONE Signature of doctor-NONE
Would you say this if it were Bush's birth certificate? Why is it that if someone has a descending view on what you believe people tend to come up with lines like "Get over it." or "We won you lost." I just asked a simple question. Why is this such a big deal if he has nothing to hide? I would not spend a million dollars to hide my certificate I would be proud to show that I was born in the greatest country in the world! Do you have any idea what will happen if he is proven to be born in Kenya?
You have restored my faith in the US Justice System. Welcome to the USA the best Justice that that money can buy! If it is such a waste of time why then are you wasting your time responding to it? Anyone who will spend 2 years salary to prevent something from being seen has something to hide.
"Anyone who will spend 2 years salary to prevent something from being seen has something to hide. "
That pretty much wraps it up for anyone with a brain, doesn't it? Now we must consider several things, don't we? Why was this PERMITTED?(and it was!) Who really runs the show? What is their agenda? Chaos in the military over orders now? Can our countrys' leader be blackmailed now? ....sigh...
"Get over it - and get on with something relevant .... "
This statement demands that you view the Constitution of the United States, as something "not relevant". The things I hear from "Americans" today, is staggering. It simply confirms what I have known for several years now-America is toast(at least the America I knew and loved) It's a sadenning statement but an even sadder commentary of our society.
Sorry 1947chief, but you don'tseem to have the ability to form a rational thought. You don't think the POTUS should meet any standards and we do. We think a president must meet the Constitutional requirements and you do not. We want honesty and accountability, and you desire deception, and obfuscation. We understand why the media has not covered it and why the courts throw it out-you think these scoundrals have "credibility". If you are an American, you disgust me.
I uphold our nations courts system with the reverence it deserves , it is the finest in the world . Sadly , you are just another ignorant dissenter , who can't even spell .
...how is this bogus? what if McCain's birth certificate were in question? I KNOW an ss like you would be saying "kick that asshole out! kill him hang him!" but when its for your "mesiah" your tone changes...
Because if you are black in the USA, you not only get away with murder and commiting hate crimes, but you also get to be president if you are born in Mombasa Kenya.
"Get away with murder and commiting hate crimes...." Barack Obama is a MULATTO. I don't know what country you're from but being BLACK in America is no cup of tea.
Ah crap giving him my sources counted as link and I didn't post my rebuttals... Geez it's from Heritage Foundation is where I found it, you can go there but I can't say the link or it wont post. If you want i'll send you a link to their sight via your email.
Lol the heritage foundation is a right wing organization. Being an echo chamber and repeating the same crap doesn't make you credible. They didn't even name the 3 law firms that supposedly he paid 800,000 to. So now you're just passing on unsubstantiated garbage. Come back when you have evidence
Attacked the source= Smear. Can't prove it's a lie... You lose. You have all of tomorrow to prove that 3 Law Firms are not backing Obama. The best way to do this, is to do some research and find out who Bergs opposition is... Actually Berg isn't the only one with the case, they got 13 states pursuing this case right now. Find out their opponents and if it's not 3 law firms, send the information to me... That's how you debate, if you can't do that... you simply lose that part of the debate.
On a final note..am I the only one noticing this.
You call me a liar, you claim I have no sources. I reveal my source while not asking for yours because I like to trust my debate partner wouldn't make things up. I provide the source, you smear it. Logic rings pretty clear from my side, I bet my right arm that if a debate anylist went threw all your comments and mine, he say I was more profesional and provided more sources. Which is sad cause all you got yo put is " Cnn, ABC, NBC....ect."
You might as well made stuff up you sourced a website that recycles information passed around the whole entire right wing nutosphere. They said the same thing 3 law firms yet no names no evidence nothing. Umm no a debate analyst would see your sources and decide you lack merrit as none of your sources actually show any evidence for their claims. All i have is your lack of actual evidence, the original bills, and credible sources. What do you have?
I did say James and Miner, it's in Chicago. Couldn't find the other too, but why don't you go find out if that Law Firm more money since Obama's been elected., that's called research... As for credible sources, you don't name anything.... well thats wrong you did 1986 amnesty or 82 amnesty whosa mo watcha mo call it. But then again if your calling the US Census and FBI numbers... IRS not credible? I have used those ya know, and you said "ALL" which means every one of my sources is un-credible.
Nice try I looked up James and Miner. There is no law firm called James and Miner in Chicago. Even dialed 411 they couldn't find it either. So now you're asking me to disprove there are 3 law firms he paid money to even though the whole right wing hasn't been able to come up with these supposed 3 names. Apparently you have no idea how to debate because if you did you would know you can't prove a negative. Prove to me you're not a child molester. You have until tomorrow.
You never gave me a link to those US census/fbi/irs numbers. Then again you never gave FBI or US Census numbers. Now you're trying to make up sources after the fact.
"You never gave US Census." Do do do do::whistle, scrolls back... Clears throat:: "According to the US Census Pogue you're party has the most poverty ridden district, District of Columbia has a 17.3 poverty rating, blue state." You're response. "I told you i'm a independent, get it right already."....::Scrolls up:: "Then again you never gave FBI or US Census.".... You want the FBI one too? Or you wanna drop this topic that you just got creamed on?
Umm nope I just scrolled back under the view all comments. Maybe a different video? Once again I don't have a party. Second DC isn't a state. So now you're just acting stupid. Where's the FBI statistic? Besides what were you trying to even say in all that? You've shifted topic so many times its so hard to keep track of your ramblings
That BS, I brought it up and you just dont want to be wrong. If your going to call me a liar when I shove evidence in your face and quote you with your own words then this isn't a debate and in which case you lost. As for what I took, I took the 2008 poverty ratings by district; which scrolling back is exactly what I said then and i'm saying it again. Now go to the FBI site and look up crime and murder rates for districts and you wont find a red district for half a page.
Sorry I checked through this whole entire video no mention of it before. Maybe on another video? Do you have the links for district only finding rates for cities? So I got a question what does any of this have to do with Obama? Once again after losing debate after debate you have veered wildly off topic.
Lol nice tactic, after I put in detail how you lost debates your stratigy is to just say I lost. All while not mentioning anything about the 5 physical challenges I made to you. You will continue to ignore them to, because you know i'll win them and that means you know your wrong. You have 2 choices Pogue, accept my politco challenge or admit it's not right leaned. If you say anything besides " I accept" you're conceding. I'm the only one willing to actually use my time to prove my points.
Tactic? I ask you for links to the source of what you're claiming because i can't find it on the place you claim it is. Why should I spend hours digging around the IRS, The Census and the FBI for information you claim is so readily available. Give me the links to your stats so I can investigate the validity myself. BTW when are you getting back to the original topic? I'm looking at the politico reading the headlines. All seem pretty moderate no "left leaning".
Okay lets look at who runs politico. CEO and President - Frederick J. Ryan Jr., former Assistant to U.S. President Ronald Reagan, and currently chairman of the Board of Trustees of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library Foundation. Yeah definitely "left wing". He gave money to George W. Bush and works for the company financing Politico. Then again you'll contend that the big bosses don't control content
I don't care if the Devil was running Heaven, if angels are still what's coming out of there then god still has all the influence... Oh i'm sorry your mind is jello when I use analogy's. I don't care who runs something, if the opposite of what they stand for is what is being produced from it? Then that is all that matters. Hillary Clinton sits on the board with Wallmart, Wallmart is a conservative store. Your point is invalid, only what comes out matters.
So in other words you don't care what the truth is just like with the trent lott thing you're going to believe what you believe no matter what. Hillary Clinton isn't president and CEO of walmart she's not running it. The CEO and President of Walmart is conservative and running it. In other words you can claim what you want about politico because its how you feel, not necessarily the truth, but its how you feel
No, I can look at stories and count which way they lean. I don't expect smears, it's that simple. If you don't negate the point by proving it to be a lie then you're wrong. This is logic 101 brother.
Maybe you just read into things that aren't there too much. See I can look at something objectively and tell when something is balanced while you'll look at the same article and claim its left wing. Wow you commit logical fallacies almost daily. Just like with your claim that there is 90% pork or so in the stimulus bill or your problems with voter fraud it is inherent on you to prove something that you claim not for the other person to prove it wrong. I've looked at their stories for today
It's a double sided blade Pogue, if I dont like what you say and believe it's a lie I have to prove you wrong. The only difference is I accept that I have to prove you wrong and dont attack the source to do it. You on the other hand dont accept the opposition and attack the source. If i'm wrong in that, please explain how the rules are different for when you talk?
You have yet to prove me wrong. When you provide sources like the john birch society, and other right wing sites that are an echo chamber for talking points then yes I can attack the source if its not a reputable source. The other sources you have yet to provide a link for and I keep asking and you keep prattling on
That's because you don't know the difference. At the end of the story who looks better... the republicans, or the democrats.. If it's the democrats, its left leaned.. If it's republicans its right leaned. After reading 20 stories how many were right leaned, and how many were left? You're ability to comprehend logic seems to flux from really high to really low according to how that topic would damage your statements.
lol You said read the headlines the headlines look balanced. You're not being logical. Everytime I debate you, you end up moving the goal posts. From what I've read they've been pretty even handed. From a breakdown on the issues they lean more to the right than the left
... you just gave all the reason in the world to accept my challenge, so do you accept it now? If you are sure of yourself you should have no problem. I know me being the conservative makes me incline to work and according to independents it's not fair that I have the motivation to work. Just like it's not fair that I posses this much political knowledge. They try to even the board, but according to the constitution I have a right to gain knowledge and I will use what I gain.
What the heck are you prattling on about? I already accepted it when I told you i looked at the articles the other day and all seemed pretty balanced. When you actually do "work" please let everyone else know. I think its time for you to relax and take a chill pill, you're rambling on.
See this is where you don't make sense. Are you claiming district of columbia is a state? If so then Mississippi is the state with the highest poverty rating at 22.1%, red state. Below DC we have Louisiana, mixed state votes republican for president, new mexico normally republican, Arkansas republican, West Virginia, Kentucky, Texas, Alabama all red states. So DC and possibly New Mexico blue while the rest are red. What was your point? Now if we're talking districts, counties?
Sure no problem, just took a drug test and physical for my interview at Wall Mart... and I got the job. That was easy, see I can do it. Also my name is Rob Sharkey, look up child molesters watch sites and see if you can find me. I didn't need until tomorrow, I did that in a matter of... 2:13... 2:14 now so one minute.
Oh yeah I forgot, well actually you forgot... That selective reading of yours is still acting up Mr. Independent. Might want to get it checked, you said I stated no source, whats it say in my first line.... hmm.... reading... and.... Yup what I thought, Washington AP... Liberal leaned paper so I'm surprised that story was in there... also do some research, Politico is liberal leaned too. We can turn it into a test if you want, both of us go to the politico website and count the story leans.
Lol the associated press isn't a newspaper. It's a news pool where various organizations put together pieces that are distributed to other papers. The AP Left leaning? Are you smoking crack? The AP was rather moderate until recently when they decided to push it more conservative. Politico left leaning? So to you anything left of crazy must be liberal since you're so far to the right.
As for Tgear this is not my first time debating him, it always ends the same though. After I make a few good points he vanishes. I still got to say it's amazing you can find all this information even the most minute detail to defend the left, but I state the most broadest of cases from the right and your like "... that's not true, I don't believe it!" Doesn't sound like a independent to me. If the sources are fake, you should have no problem proving them wrong.. Like I said, watch Mexico.
You have yet to name who on the left I'm defending. So far you haven't named any left leaning people you keep saying I defend the left but you haven't stated anyone left or right that I've "attacked or defended"
Uh... how quickly they forget... Hillary, Obama, Geichner, Frank, Dod, Polishi, Clinton, Reed and Schumer... You want me to go back and copy and paste these debates? I'm sorry Pogue you might want to rest up today, your off you're game. Wake up and debate me like you normally do, I hate it when it's this easy.
Clinton Moderate, Obama left of Joe Lieberman, Geitner liberal how? He hasn't voted on anything and came from Goldman Sachs, Frank yeah he is a liberal that's one you got, Dodd Moderate, You already mentioned hillary, Reed moderate schumer moderate. Again you think every democrat is a liberal when most of them are centrist moderates. I'm on my game you're the one who has yet to use logic.
I said Clinton, then Hillary.Schumer is the anti-christ...::tin foil hat moment, don't care though:: Hes soooooooo left. Pro-abortion, amnesty to illegals yuck you might want to rethink that one at least.... A attempt to discredit something instead of debate it is what is called a smear, prove that wrong for me if you truly think you can... Ok so if Can and Might aren't fair game, then maybe you should be mad at your side for using those words. Killing the messenger are we?
lol Bill Clinton was no liberal he didn't have a voting record so how could you judge? He was a moderate who was pretty damned bipartisan considering the republicans controlled congress. Hillary again is a moderate. Schumer is prochoice you crazy types like to call it pro-abortion for letting a woman decide what to do. Yeah Reagan supported Amnesty I guess you're saying yuck to Reagan. Again you're making a logical fallacy saying "prove that wrong" you couldn't prove what you said
I researched that actually and found out that the reason Reagan allowed that ear mark is because your side wouldn't fund a war to defend us and was going to vote it down without that ear mark. Just like what they did to Bush Senior. So your concept of " Reagen wanted amnesty" is wrong.
Uh huh reagan allowed this earmark. Do you know what an ear mark is? If reagan didn't agree with it why did he sign it into law? Yeah Reagan did support amnesty he signed the bill into law and forever he'll be known for that Amnesty of Illegal aliens.
Black mail? How is him stepping down because they changed the revolving door from 2 years to one year black mail? And now we've reached the crux of your whole entire reason for being here. You don't care what the truth is but rather what "feels good" to you. The fact is the rules changed and he stepped down and became a lobbyist. Nothing magical about it.
I want a cookie from you, in order to get that cookie you say I have to get you a snickers bar first. I don't have a snickers bar, I don't want to go to the candy store to pick up a snickers bar. But I want the cookie enough to go and get it. I did something I didn't want to do, in order to get what I want. Your a genius when defending.... "democrat moderates" and your brain becomes J-E-L-L-O when a conservative is defended. Oh well, looks like your a lot more prepared then yesterday.
Umm you're not getting my cookies tranny. Did you just lose your marbles? It's obvious that your arguments have lost steam as you have diverted so wildly off topic and failed to answer half my comments. No I ask you for a source to see where you got your crazy ideas. When I see you use a discredited source that doesn't even provide reasoning behind their conclusions I see you're nothing more than an echo chamber for talking points. I whipped your ass yesterday and everyday before that.
AP is liberal leaned too. You Pogue it does surprise me you have all this knowledge to defend liberals while being a independent, and yet every single scrap of information I say you think i'm making it up like I have the intelligence to come up with half the things i'm saying, while I do find it to be a compliment, maybe you should just ask for proof next time instead of jumping straight to lie accusations. Webster- " Lie- " A deliberate misinterpretation of the truth." Your turn boys.
Boy, you are just a poorly informed, talking points repeater. You just made this big case for how well informed you are and how much research you do and you still got it wrong. We asked for proof, you gave us lies. Maybe they weren't your lies, but they were still lies and you presented them here without finding out the truth. "Non-Research Guy" must be you.
Holy crap... you really are insulted by the "Non Researcher Guy" comment... It's about the equivalent of dumb dumb head but hey, i'm not here to judge how you take a blow.
First, you didn't direct the "Non-REsearcher Guy" tag at me. I just found it funny that you would have the nerve to label someone else that. It is so obvious how little research you do before coming here to spout your garbage. And after this latest splurge where you are practically screaming at us about how much research you did and you were still wrong....well, I just found that ironic and wanted to toss the name back at you. It doesn't bother me, b/c I do my homework.
The nerve to make a childish insult.. Holy crap do you know how petty you sound right now? I think you should leave debating to Pogue there Gear, he actually is able to keep up with me. But if you want to keep trying, feel free I have no problem with it. You'll put him at a disadvantage by making more for him to read in order to catch up and wont remember everything he wants to say. ::stretch:: So I say keep'em comin'. You posted 4 minutes ago right? So you should still be on youtube.
I think gear is keeping up quite well. I haven't seen you actually knock anything down he's said other than to repeat right wing sources. Its okay self-loather I expect you to change the subject soon and go off on another tangent like before. Isn't this video about your tinfoil hat conspiracy that was dismissed by multiple judges for lack of standing? Good thing I'm a fast reader Kago and I actually do research instead of showing intellectual laziness by going to sites that support me first
lol its funny you get offended by the non-researcher guy after you called someone else it. I think dost protest too much. Research isn't forming a conclusion and then going to all the right wing blogs for "evidence" to support your preconceived conclusion. Do you do scientific experiments the same way? You didn't even bother to read the bill before going to all those right wing sites to look for talking points. Its okay I'm waiting for you to get back to me on the Reagan Amnesty
I didn't lol, he kept this childish little immature comment active. Like I said I was supprised he brought it back up. I don't have much to debate with you, most of your writing here is smears. " You cant use that source cause I dont like it" But its better than you who just says something and don't say who you got it from... But then again there is nothing to stop me from calling that a extreme left source, Gee guess that means I have actually said more than you.
Newsmax is funded by Richard Melon Scaife right wing operative, New American is a Birch Society rag, Heritage Foundation is a right wing think tank that gets paid to make shit up to pass on their talking points. You used unabashedly right wing rags and passed on their talking points but you have yet to read the bill. It has nothing to do with right or left those organizations are thoroughly discredited. I've told you where ive gotten stuff from. You know the actual bill like with Reagan.
That's a smear, i'll ignore those. Debate the point, if it's wrong it should not be a problem. Prove it wrong, if you cant you lose the debate to what you claim is a lie. The bill does have a portion to it that can disallow seniors medical treatment based on cost effectiveness. Dashel said it himself " We want to take the more cost effective route and help the generation that is still working first." Dashels lib...
Which part was a smear? There's nothing smearlike about pointing out something is right wing and has been discredited. I love how you use modifiers "can" "might" how about something the bill actually states it does rather than what you read on some right wing website?
WASHINGTON (AP) - The $800 billion-plus economic stimulus measure making its way through Congress could steer government checks to illegal immigrants, a top Republican congressional official asserted Thursday.
The legislation, which would send tax credits of $500 per worker and $1,000 per couple, expressly disqualifies nonresident aliens, but it would allow people who don't have Social Security numbers to be eligible for the checks.
Undocumented immigrants who are not eligible for a Social Security number can file tax returns with an alternative number. A House-passed version of the economic recovery bill and one making its way through the Senate would allow anyone with such a number, called an individual taxpayer identification number, to qualify for the tax credits.
But BoyKagome just posts Smears and Innuendos right?... Sorry guys, I don't normally copy and paste but you made some personal attacks.. Blame yourselves.
No, BoyK just prints what he reads on right wing sites. It took me one Google search to prove you wrong. Two "Senior GOP Officials" speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that the Stimulus would give $500 and $1000 rebates to illegal aliens. That is not true. In order to qualify for these rebates, filers must follow the same rules as applying for the Earned Income Credit. You must provide a valid Soc. Security Number to get it. Illegal Aliens get no rebates.
... The quote I pulled off shows how they get around the SSC... I don't need to copy and paste normally, but you two really acted like I made up all my information. Now just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it false. Mark my words, I bet you my left arm after the stimulus the money going into Mexico will increase even though we have a poor economy.
The quote you pulled out is from a republican talking point it is a hypothetical. As the bill is not passed yet how is it anyone has "gotten around" it? No Boy I knew you were repeating talking points I asked you for a source you still haven't stated the real source of the information. So you're betting your limp arm? Maybe you should bet your left testicle as well. The bill specifically prohibits undocumented non-resident aliens from getting the funds. But reality isn't your strong suite
Yeah that is a smear and innuendo its not based on anything in the bill. The bill specifically says that non-resident immigrants are prohibited from collecting. So you're claiming that somehow some immigrants may illegally try to collect that somehow the bill provides $500 to illegal immigrants is not the same thing. You specifically claimed that the bill provides $500 to illegal immigrants. It does not. Again Republican talking points not based on the substance of the bill
.. Well you got me there actually, I said the bill granted them 500 but I never mentioned the method on which the illegals obtained it. However I still stand beside my statement, watch the income going into Mexico sky rocket during the stimulus. I bet you my left arm, so if i'm wrong Pogue you can come to Michigan and cut the thing off.
Method? You're talking about a non-existent hypothetical. The bill itself states that it prohibits non-resident aliens from applying for the money. This isn't the same as what you stated. You stated the bill grants $500 to illegals it does not. Nowhere in the bill does it say that. So admit you're wrong and move on.
Finally the congressmen your looking for his from Virginia, that should narrow you're search down. I know your going to come at me with "that congressmen does drugs, rapes children and eats the heads off monkeys" like all liberals do, all the while ignoring people like Obama who did take drugs, Studds who did rape children and... I don't
Y'all bought into the lie that Obama didn't have a birth certificate and were made to look like the f**king fools you no doubt are ....
Big Advertising probably loves you guys cuz you'll buy into ANYTHING that fits you preconceived notions ....
Now go suck Donald Trump's rich dick like good little Serfs and remember not to get any spunk on his shoes .....
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This is one of the dumbest things on youtube ever. I so agree with the educated folks that President Obama is the best President we've had in 40 years and is going to be remembered as a kind, gentle man.
AtlantaGymFan 8 months ago
@AtlantaGymFan Ther's no fool like an old fool! " best President we've had in 40 years" ROFLMAO!
mrrheades 6 months ago
@eggrz,
There is a major lack of forthcoming information from Hawaii when it comes to Obama and his non-existing birth certificate. It is a sad day in America when the supporters of Obama only rebuttals is personal attacks of vulgar language and/or calling someone a racist in a feeble attempt to distract from the underling truth.
“Though one proceeds to strike oneself over the head with a book and receives a hollow thump, does not necessarily mean that the book is empty”!
OldKeyr 8 months ago
For the blind followers of this lying administration, please explain to me just why I should believe Obama’s so called long form birth certificate when it states that in 1961 he was born in a hospital that was not in existence until 1978! You cannot get past this one single item of miss information that proves beyond any doubt that Obama’s long form birth certificate from Hawaii is a forgery. “The Truth Shall Set You Free”!
OldKeyr 9 months ago
@OldKeyr even worse its so photoshopped i could see it
failurbanik 9 months ago 2
@OldKeyr get the shit OUT off your eyes
Historical timeline of the hospital from wikipedia
Kapiʻolani Hospital
In 1884, Princess Kekaulike died and willed her home, Ululani, as the site of a proposed maternity home to help Hawaiian mothers.
(...)
In 1931, its name was changed to the Kapiʻolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.
eggrz 8 months ago
What, is this link supposed to convince me that Barry isn't a total fraud? At least the other side does some homework to prove their point.
RumRiverRebel 9 months ago
lol obama hes just like all the other fake ass niggers
redneck350chevykkk 9 months ago
Ask shitbag O'Reilly and Beck why he is such a dirty liar. Susan Daniels and Jerome Corsi will explain. Corsi, on May 17, 2011, Susan, a little sooner, but Susan will have to go to the public to get her truth out. Corsi will get his devastating book out on the 17th. Hold onto your hats, America is coming back. Beck and O'reilly are finished. God bless Susan and Jerome.
Petekiv 9 months ago
@Petekiv damn liberal. spitting insults out of your ass because your on the oposite side
ToAstYNaChO 9 months ago
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Go to code XcWQw2AAIho explains that all these layers means nothing the certificate is legit. The test in a German Certificate. All this talk is nonesense.
No video at YT or the media is saying that Obamas' Certificate is legit, that is not fair and balanced. I am neutral & layman trying to get the truth.
Google - Expert : No Doubt Obamas Birth Certificatei s Legit - Fox News
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Mr. Trump. I love your tenacity and your guts for going up against the hatefreaks that attack you as being a "racist" (because that's all they can do since the truth is not on their side). However, I sincerely hope you'll have the so-called birth certificate looked at VERY closely by (actual) experts and not let the racists and liberal pigs pressure you into backing off from this incredibly important issue.
Keep the fire to the Kenyan's feet! We shall overcome!
guyNbluejeans 9 months ago
FAKE! THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON FROM Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital WHO COULD VERIFY IT….
sz26 9 months ago
Fake! and it doen't matter. His father was a British citizen . Read the Constitution. His Mother was not old enough(18) and lived in the U.S for more then 5 years over age of 14. He is not eligible to be Natural Born
goldmakers 9 months ago
to me, the guy who discovered the tiny spot that says photoshop no? is enough proof for me that , of course, its a fake, why in the hell would someone spend two million dollars to hide that fact, than after the money is spent, say, oh look, everyone, it was under my shoe the whole time, haha
germanysjim 9 months ago
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germanysjim 9 months ago
Crazy, try searching -who is barry soetoro? by Nomessiah- gotta listen to this awesome metal song about the fraud of Barack Obama!
watch?v=hXO6TZJR3XM
pussyfaceize 9 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
I think that it is truly pathetic that adults resort to spreading rumours to get what they want. It is childish and sad.
butterflyz1961 9 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
So it's okay for a white Panamanian to run for President, but not okay for a half black man born in Hawaii to run for the same office?? For some, this is a racial issue, and for others, it's just the only think that they can think of to get him out of office. If they had any dirt on Obama, they would put it out there, but obviously, there is nothing bad that they can say about him, so they are grasping at straws.
butterflyz1961 9 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
You say that as if you were in the same room with Obama's mother when she gave birth to him, and again when she arrived in Hawaii. And by the way, do you also take issue with McCaine because he was born in the Panama Canal zone? The Panama Canal is NOT in the United States. The Government was just there to construct and they took control. In 1999 the Panama Canal has been run by the Panama Canal Authority. It was never a part of the United States.
butterflyz1961 9 months ago
besides being a stupid video....................
If I was born in USA, have a none american name, run for a government office, and people DOUBTS that I was born here, I WOULD SHOW MY CERTIFICATE to shot EVERYONE'S mouth, period!!
merged 10 months ago
ah birthers.....you never fail to make me laugh. you fail at everything else, though. funny that you're really just sore losers and you have no real evidence.
btw....Hawaii became a state in 1959. Obama born there in 1961. Therefore....he was born in America.
morons.....
kuwinsitall 11 months ago
@kuwinsitall I AM NOT a birther. I argued that Obama was a citizen. I have held to that and have told many that this was a right wing ploy. Today? From a very good friend of mine who is a Democrat from my district sent me the copy of the document that is going to change the world. I SEEN his birth certificate. He was born in the Coast Province General Hospital, Mombasa British Protectorate of Kenya. Certificate document 32018. Doctor attending was James O. W. Ang'Awa. It will come out now.
SuperGuitarman69 10 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
So....you're not a birther......but you believe that some forgery off of ebay is legit?
Proof? Mombasa was part of Zanzibar until 1963. There's about 10 other things obviously wrong about the certificate.
Do you have critical thinking skills or do you just swallow any crap people shove out? I bet you think we didn't land on the moon because you saw some jerkoff on youtube talk about it, huh?
moron.
kuwinsitall 10 months ago
@kuwinsitall This is NOT the fake one. This one has tons of information.
SuperGuitarman69 10 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
You should take a long hard look in the mirror and ask yourself...."Why am I wasting my time? I should just go out and get a life and not spend all day on the internet believing thoroughly debunked conspiracy theories."
Go get some ice cream, a nice book and enjoy your day. Obama is a citizen. It's that simple.
kuwinsitall 9 months ago
@kuwinsitall I do not spend my time on the internet. I have to work to pay for the leftists entitlement programs for those who do not work. Secondly, I did believe as you did, that he was a citizen. I no longer believe that. I believe that this is the biggest scam in American history. I believe an 18 year old girl made a mistake and her son was born in a foreign country. That is all there is to it.
SuperGuitarman69 9 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Yes, we all work. I have 2 jobs. That has nothing to do with the fact that the Prez is a citizen. I'm a history teacher.....i suggest you go to university and I'll teach you how citizenship works. I'll also teach you how to use your critical thinking skills and learn when to call BS. You've swung and missed here, buddy.
kuwinsitall 9 months ago
@kuwinsitall You are a history teacher? Right there you are worthless. You are a useless overpaid government employee. One that couldn't last a second in competition. In fact, my daughter was homeschooled to get her away from the worthless government employee. DO NOT COMMENT BACK TO ME. I truly think that the education of this country is filled with the biggest morons our countries have to offer. GET LOST YOU SCHMUCK
SuperGuitarman69 9 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
I have a Master's degree in History and a Master's of Library Science in Archives Administration.
Where's your qualifications?
Have fun chasing Obama's "birth certificate" and screwing up your kid's education.
kuwinsitall 9 months ago
@kuwinsitall Lol. My daughter is 17 and she has graduated and is attending Vanderbilt this fall. My qualifications? Do you mean my education? I've had 7 years of school. I hold 2 separate degrees. One in Comp Sci the other in Economics. I went to Mizzou, UMSL and then Wash U. And no, other than advising a local panel on the Cities economic plans on occasion, I do not work in either of those industries. I am a professional studio musician. I make 3 figures a year playing a guitar. Love capitalism
SuperGuitarman69 9 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Nothing wrong with capitalism. I work at a PRIVATE university---Marquette.
So I'm sure we both have plenty of education.....but you need to put yours to work and stop believing birther myths. No wonder....you went to Mizzou....
kuwinsitall 9 months ago
@kuwinsitall I didn't graduate from Mizzou. I played baseball at Mizzou. I graduated at Wash U.
SuperGuitarman69 9 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69
Either way....you have a degree. Good for you.
Point of this whole discussion, though, is conspiracy theories. You can now be legitimately lumped in with 9/11 truthers and moon landing deniers.
Congratulations.
kuwinsitall 9 months ago
@kuwinsitall I certainly cannot. There very well may be something to it. I do not know yet. I didn't put much creed into it until recently.
SuperGuitarman69 9 months ago
@kuwinsitall It isn't far suspended from reality. It very well could be that he was born in Kenya. I am sure you are a liberal. So, you will stand behind Obama no matter what. You more than likely tell your students your agendist views. Am I correct in that? I am not picking a fight. I am merely asking.
SuperGuitarman69 9 months ago
@kuwinsitall I am not done with you yet. I want you to know something. I am actively right now involved with a movement to pull Federal Funding from public schools if the parents decide to home school their children. A 12,000 tax credit is pulled from the school and goes directly to the families. What does that mean? Competition. A crash course in competition for the government monopoly teacher. Less and less need for public education is what we need. NOT MORE>
SuperGuitarman69 9 months ago
@SuperGuitarman69 Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett examined a copy of President Obama’s published Certification of Live Birth and said that its contents meet the requirements of the Arizona birther bill, HB2177, which was passed by the Arizona house last Thursday and is headed to the governor for signature. Bennett stated the hospital, physician and witness signatures mentioned in the bill are not absolute requirements, but only required “if applicable
Note: Bennet is a Republican, lol.
clarity023 9 months ago
@clarity023 This isn't partisan
SuperGuitarman69 9 months ago
@kuwinsitall I believe Obama's mother, only being 18 at the time was in Kenya. She was smart enough to know that he needed to be born in America, but she didnt make the move home quick enough. So right after he was born she went to Hawaii. But he indeed was born in Kenya
SuperGuitarman69 10 months ago
i want to both website one has been shut down and the other has removed all documents from their website CLUE?
godscuttingyoudown 11 months ago
Tucson's Representatives to Congress will be receiving a phone call tomorrow ON AIR, to discuss why Lucas Daniel Smith's assertion by certified mail of Obama's Birth not accorded the courtesy of a response....stirring the soup on the Ex-CONservative Radio Hour....google it...tomorrow 1-3 est. call in 347-677-1563 to participate or to listen not using a computer...
beyondpuke 11 months ago
agree but DOn't ever use that color scheme again, you can't read it
kiffter 1 year ago
@kiffter Illinois' State Lottery drew 666 on Obama's victory-day. Nothing can match that - it clinches the choice for Antichrist. Browse this video's name, it's good and it's old already, he made it last year. "Is Obama the Antichrist? Ummmm...don't know..."
End for Obama. So we have to move fast. Spread to all.
We should get all these good people together and bust Obama now.
The Antichrist's 42 months run out in May 2011. Let's start pushing the fires burning his ass! His time is in 4 months
SakyaNgor 1 year ago
you should make the font more legible... i can't read any of this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
moodude16 1 year ago
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you guys should commit suicide intead of having a black president.
002Tchiputu 1 year ago
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you guys should commit suicide intead of having a black president.
002Tchiputu 1 year ago
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you guys should commit suicide intead of having a black president.
002Tchiputu 1 year ago
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you guys should commit suicide intead of having a black president.
002Tchiputu 1 year ago
you guys should commit suicide intead of having a black president.
002Tchiputu 1 year ago
you racists just can't stop crying. Just wait for the next election.
002Tchiputu 1 year ago
Hey letsget2shit & amelixbastard - A cave called...it wants it's bat-shit back!
LetsNotBeL7 1 year ago
True Story: The Mormon Hierarchy recently visited Obamanation. They left him a 5 vol set of his family tree!. "You" don't know the Mormon Hierarchy. I do: On 911, out of a clear sky&full moon, 120+ women,children& 35men were psyoped with a False Flag& Freemason signs of Peace, convinced to relinquish their arms, separated and systematically and ritually murdered.911-1857. 144 yrs later was WTC Mega Ritual.Obama just had his balls handed to him: When the Hierarchy does Geneology they got U. Kenya
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
Mute Point actually. In 2010 we will see the truth and the results of that truth. The watchtowers will be empty and the house of cards will fall. America will be left without a leader and anarchy will ensue. Congress is powerless to do anything without the signature of the president and we will have removed not only Obama but his running mate and all candidates by rendering the events up to the election as null and void. Noone will be able to take office.
amelixbratton 2 years ago
stop smoking pot. Obama is an eligible and qualified president. Birthers, you're saying this nonsense since 2008.
clarity023 2 years ago
Clarity023... I don't smoke pot, and I have no idea what a birther is... though i have 5 kids if that counts... I just pass on what I see.......and write...... I voted for Obama. I stood behind my decision then and I stand behind my decision now. What is to come must happen under and by his hand. But, I see what I see.... no... I'm not a nutcase. I personally hope he succeeds.
amelixbratton 1 year ago
@amelixbratton wrong.the speaker of the house would become president.
cassidy99ful 1 year ago
Yes, Cassidy... we weren't taught that in school... Not exactly young here lol. But it's a mute point either way. IF the theorists get their way, there'll be civil war before year's end.
amelixbratton 1 year ago
LetsNotBeL7 I see your such a coward as to leave untrue comments about anyone who apposes Obama
Youyr of the sleazyest kind , trying to use a race card!
I am not a racist! I even hoped for OBama to win.
I just hate his evil agenda!
BTW I hate the klan with all my heart!
I love Jesus and hate all forms of evil.
letsget2thetruth 2 years ago
Your papers Obama, let me see your papers!
letsget2thetruth 2 years ago
letsget2 - it's time for your klan meeting - you ignorant bastard!
LetsNotBeL7 2 years ago
LetsNotBeL7... why is letsget2thetruth a "ignorant" big B? simply because he wishes to have a viable, comprehensive answer? Though I don't share his belief that Obama is an illegal president, I do understand and agree with the many questions that arise from the deceit on both sides of the coin. In any case, he said nothing that required you to be rude and ignorant in your response.
amelixbratton 1 year ago
@letsget2thetruth when you are running for president of the united states of america,yes, everyone must show their papers.dumbfuck.
cassidy99ful 1 year ago
you people are so laughable lol
SAsolidox 2 years ago 2
Stupid video...Waste of time.........
LOVETHEONELOVE 2 years ago 2
@LOVETHEONELOVE and you are so fucking brain washed it is pathetic how stupid you people can be. Never questioning anything that is told to you. I bet if BO said the sky was green you would believe that too.
hippership 1 year ago
edocket.access.gpo. gov/2009/pdf/E9-1712.pdf
No spaces
BeantownJim 2 years ago
knock knock
who's there?
kenya
kenya who?
kenya show me the birth certificate
BeantownJim 2 years ago
Beantown... bad taste considering the subject in question but i liked the flow :P
amelixbratton 1 year ago
the Antichrist Obama's in Washington
Pass on the message all over the world
Put Beast's Marks video on your own channel page too
ShambhalaKing 2 years ago
obama is an illegal muslim. Shortly, he should be found out and deported! Then we go biden, who is just as bad and a lot dumber!
peteykkk 2 years ago
And then if Biden doesn't work then we got Pelosi next after that.
golbyaka 2 years ago 2
oooh lord...we're fucked...how did we get ourselves into this? the three most powerful people in the country are...oh God...
*goes into fetal position*
pseudohippie55 2 years ago
I think/believe that once he is finally busted as an illegal alien in possession of the presidency (made up) he and those involved will all be prosecuted. The DNC, the congress, the VP, the speaker will all go down for aiding and abetting or conspiracy to commint fraud or something along those lines. They are all involved. What about the Dem judges that have been throwing out lawsuits for no reason relating to Obama's birth? they, too will have to go. All the fucking liars will go!
clctah 2 years ago
now thats a plan
MG42pillbox 2 years ago
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2indulgent 2 years ago
To clctah: I have a deal for you! I have some really nice lakefront real estate on Mars that I can get you for a steal! Not interested in Mars? how about your very own bridge in Brooklyn? You'll be the envy of all your friends as you administer your very own bridge! Howe about charging a tol upon entry to your cool bridge? Can you say "Cha-Ching?" Oh yeah baby, you will be on your way!
2indulgent 2 years ago
Just like they prosecuted the last one for WAR CRIMES, right. Get real.
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JimmyJackJohnnyJose 2 years ago 3
This is very interesting to see. The document that is the foundation of the US values is being circumvented by creative yet well paid lawyers. The US has become so polarized that many of the Dems. would defend Obama with their dying breath even if there was a video of him running naked through a mall shooting people and many Reps. would like to see him hung on capital steps before he was tried. I asked a simple question: Why is he hiding this? I dont get answers I get: Get over it or Move on.
Simonwaterholes 2 years ago
Rockmanzzzz 2 years ago
stop obama now impeach him before its to late
mikejpa78 2 years ago
Couple of million years of evolution and YOU'RE what we've come to?
oh god...
LetsNotBeL7 2 years ago
You're all a bunch of drama queens , crying about conspiracy theories , UFO's , New World Orders - GROW UP ! This is BS !
1947Chief 2 years ago 2
What is the big deal here all he has to do is produce a document. Why has he spent over 1 million dollars to fight what shouldnt be a problem?
Simonwaterholes 2 years ago
Get over it - and get on with something relevant ....
1947Chief 2 years ago
Would you say this if it were Bush's birth certificate? Why is it that if someone has a descending view on what you believe people tend to come up with lines like "Get over it." or "We won you lost." I just asked a simple question. Why is this such a big deal if he has nothing to hide? I would not spend a million dollars to hide my certificate I would be proud to show that I was born in the greatest country in the world! Do you have any idea what will happen if he is proven to be born in Kenya?
Simonwaterholes 2 years ago
Ok , you and your three friends can take up a collection and investigate this bogus waste of time idea YOURSELF !
1947Chief 2 years ago
You have restored my faith in the US Justice System. Welcome to the USA the best Justice that that money can buy! If it is such a waste of time why then are you wasting your time responding to it? Anyone who will spend 2 years salary to prevent something from being seen has something to hide.
Simonwaterholes 2 years ago
"Anyone who will spend 2 years salary to prevent something from being seen has something to hide. "
That pretty much wraps it up for anyone with a brain, doesn't it? Now we must consider several things, don't we? Why was this PERMITTED?(and it was!) Who really runs the show? What is their agenda? Chaos in the military over orders now? Can our countrys' leader be blackmailed now? ....sigh...
agat0r 2 years ago 2
Try to spend your time working for an issue that has some valor , this is petty .
1947Chief 2 years ago
"Try to spend your time working for an issue that has some valor , this is petty . "
The Constitution has no valor and is petty-brilliant, professor.
agat0r 2 years ago
that 'petty' old Constitution. what an inconvenience for the undoer. he'll be doing away with it as he already has shown.
AlpondrickTheGreat 2 years ago
"Get over it - and get on with something relevant .... "
This statement demands that you view the Constitution of the United States, as something "not relevant". The things I hear from "Americans" today, is staggering. It simply confirms what I have known for several years now-America is toast(at least the America I knew and loved) It's a sadenning statement but an even sadder commentary of our society.
agat0r 2 years ago
You are obviously comfortable in your paranoid fantasies , no one with ANY credibility has mentioned this BOGUS non-issue .
1947Chief 2 years ago
Sorry 1947chief, but you don'tseem to have the ability to form a rational thought. You don't think the POTUS should meet any standards and we do. We think a president must meet the Constitutional requirements and you do not. We want honesty and accountability, and you desire deception, and obfuscation. We understand why the media has not covered it and why the courts throw it out-you think these scoundrals have "credibility". If you are an American, you disgust me.
agat0r 2 years ago
I uphold our nations courts system with the reverence it deserves , it is the finest in the world . Sadly , you are just another ignorant dissenter , who can't even spell .
1947Chief 2 years ago
...how is a non-issue? or do oyu not know the rules of our country you lil idiot?
pseudohippie55 2 years ago
...how is this bogus? what if McCain's birth certificate were in question? I KNOW an ss like you would be saying "kick that asshole out! kill him hang him!" but when its for your "mesiah" your tone changes...
stop flip-flopping and get some balls
pseudohippie55 2 years ago
Because if you are black in the USA, you not only get away with murder and commiting hate crimes, but you also get to be president if you are born in Mombasa Kenya.
TheBrassHole 2 years ago
good one
MG42pillbox 2 years ago
"Get away with murder and commiting hate crimes...." Barack Obama is a MULATTO. I don't know what country you're from but being BLACK in America is no cup of tea.
noisyfirecracker 2 years ago
You're right. It's a free cup of liquid GOLD.
TheBrassHole 2 years ago
No.
ZwKarl 2 years ago
nice name 911 chief
ambush923 2 years ago
haha. he still didn't answer the question!
guitarguy62793 2 years ago
Ah crap giving him my sources counted as link and I didn't post my rebuttals... Geez it's from Heritage Foundation is where I found it, you can go there but I can't say the link or it wont post. If you want i'll send you a link to their sight via your email.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Lol the heritage foundation is a right wing organization. Being an echo chamber and repeating the same crap doesn't make you credible. They didn't even name the 3 law firms that supposedly he paid 800,000 to. So now you're just passing on unsubstantiated garbage. Come back when you have evidence
PogueMoran 3 years ago
Attacked the source= Smear. Can't prove it's a lie... You lose. You have all of tomorrow to prove that 3 Law Firms are not backing Obama. The best way to do this, is to do some research and find out who Bergs opposition is... Actually Berg isn't the only one with the case, they got 13 states pursuing this case right now. Find out their opponents and if it's not 3 law firms, send the information to me... That's how you debate, if you can't do that... you simply lose that part of the debate.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Holy crap I had a lot of spelling errors in that...
BoyKagome 3 years ago
On a final note..am I the only one noticing this.
You call me a liar, you claim I have no sources. I reveal my source while not asking for yours because I like to trust my debate partner wouldn't make things up. I provide the source, you smear it. Logic rings pretty clear from my side, I bet my right arm that if a debate anylist went threw all your comments and mine, he say I was more profesional and provided more sources. Which is sad cause all you got yo put is " Cnn, ABC, NBC....ect."
BoyKagome 3 years ago
You might as well made stuff up you sourced a website that recycles information passed around the whole entire right wing nutosphere. They said the same thing 3 law firms yet no names no evidence nothing. Umm no a debate analyst would see your sources and decide you lack merrit as none of your sources actually show any evidence for their claims. All i have is your lack of actual evidence, the original bills, and credible sources. What do you have?
PogueMoran 3 years ago
I did say James and Miner, it's in Chicago. Couldn't find the other too, but why don't you go find out if that Law Firm more money since Obama's been elected., that's called research... As for credible sources, you don't name anything.... well thats wrong you did 1986 amnesty or 82 amnesty whosa mo watcha mo call it. But then again if your calling the US Census and FBI numbers... IRS not credible? I have used those ya know, and you said "ALL" which means every one of my sources is un-credible.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Nice try I looked up James and Miner. There is no law firm called James and Miner in Chicago. Even dialed 411 they couldn't find it either. So now you're asking me to disprove there are 3 law firms he paid money to even though the whole right wing hasn't been able to come up with these supposed 3 names. Apparently you have no idea how to debate because if you did you would know you can't prove a negative. Prove to me you're not a child molester. You have until tomorrow.
PogueMoran 3 years ago
You never gave me a link to those US census/fbi/irs numbers. Then again you never gave FBI or US Census numbers. Now you're trying to make up sources after the fact.
PogueMoran 3 years ago
"You never gave US Census." Do do do do::whistle, scrolls back... Clears throat:: "According to the US Census Pogue you're party has the most poverty ridden district, District of Columbia has a 17.3 poverty rating, blue state." You're response. "I told you i'm a independent, get it right already."....::Scrolls up:: "Then again you never gave FBI or US Census.".... You want the FBI one too? Or you wanna drop this topic that you just got creamed on?
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Umm nope I just scrolled back under the view all comments. Maybe a different video? Once again I don't have a party. Second DC isn't a state. So now you're just acting stupid. Where's the FBI statistic? Besides what were you trying to even say in all that? You've shifted topic so many times its so hard to keep track of your ramblings
PogueMoran 3 years ago
That BS, I brought it up and you just dont want to be wrong. If your going to call me a liar when I shove evidence in your face and quote you with your own words then this isn't a debate and in which case you lost. As for what I took, I took the 2008 poverty ratings by district; which scrolling back is exactly what I said then and i'm saying it again. Now go to the FBI site and look up crime and murder rates for districts and you wont find a red district for half a page.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Sorry I checked through this whole entire video no mention of it before. Maybe on another video? Do you have the links for district only finding rates for cities? So I got a question what does any of this have to do with Obama? Once again after losing debate after debate you have veered wildly off topic.
PogueMoran 3 years ago
Lol nice tactic, after I put in detail how you lost debates your stratigy is to just say I lost. All while not mentioning anything about the 5 physical challenges I made to you. You will continue to ignore them to, because you know i'll win them and that means you know your wrong. You have 2 choices Pogue, accept my politco challenge or admit it's not right leaned. If you say anything besides " I accept" you're conceding. I'm the only one willing to actually use my time to prove my points.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Tactic? I ask you for links to the source of what you're claiming because i can't find it on the place you claim it is. Why should I spend hours digging around the IRS, The Census and the FBI for information you claim is so readily available. Give me the links to your stats so I can investigate the validity myself. BTW when are you getting back to the original topic? I'm looking at the politico reading the headlines. All seem pretty moderate no "left leaning".
PogueMoran 3 years ago
Okay lets look at who runs politico. CEO and President - Frederick J. Ryan Jr., former Assistant to U.S. President Ronald Reagan, and currently chairman of the Board of Trustees of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library Foundation. Yeah definitely "left wing". He gave money to George W. Bush and works for the company financing Politico. Then again you'll contend that the big bosses don't control content
PogueMoran 3 years ago
I don't care if the Devil was running Heaven, if angels are still what's coming out of there then god still has all the influence... Oh i'm sorry your mind is jello when I use analogy's. I don't care who runs something, if the opposite of what they stand for is what is being produced from it? Then that is all that matters. Hillary Clinton sits on the board with Wallmart, Wallmart is a conservative store. Your point is invalid, only what comes out matters.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
So in other words you don't care what the truth is just like with the trent lott thing you're going to believe what you believe no matter what. Hillary Clinton isn't president and CEO of walmart she's not running it. The CEO and President of Walmart is conservative and running it. In other words you can claim what you want about politico because its how you feel, not necessarily the truth, but its how you feel
PogueMoran 2 years ago
No, I can look at stories and count which way they lean. I don't expect smears, it's that simple. If you don't negate the point by proving it to be a lie then you're wrong. This is logic 101 brother.
BoyKagome 2 years ago
Maybe you just read into things that aren't there too much. See I can look at something objectively and tell when something is balanced while you'll look at the same article and claim its left wing. Wow you commit logical fallacies almost daily. Just like with your claim that there is 90% pork or so in the stimulus bill or your problems with voter fraud it is inherent on you to prove something that you claim not for the other person to prove it wrong. I've looked at their stories for today
PogueMoran 2 years ago
It's a double sided blade Pogue, if I dont like what you say and believe it's a lie I have to prove you wrong. The only difference is I accept that I have to prove you wrong and dont attack the source to do it. You on the other hand dont accept the opposition and attack the source. If i'm wrong in that, please explain how the rules are different for when you talk?
BoyKagome 2 years ago
You have yet to prove me wrong. When you provide sources like the john birch society, and other right wing sites that are an echo chamber for talking points then yes I can attack the source if its not a reputable source. The other sources you have yet to provide a link for and I keep asking and you keep prattling on
PogueMoran 2 years ago
That's because you don't know the difference. At the end of the story who looks better... the republicans, or the democrats.. If it's the democrats, its left leaned.. If it's republicans its right leaned. After reading 20 stories how many were right leaned, and how many were left? You're ability to comprehend logic seems to flux from really high to really low according to how that topic would damage your statements.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
lol You said read the headlines the headlines look balanced. You're not being logical. Everytime I debate you, you end up moving the goal posts. From what I've read they've been pretty even handed. From a breakdown on the issues they lean more to the right than the left
PogueMoran 2 years ago
... you just gave all the reason in the world to accept my challenge, so do you accept it now? If you are sure of yourself you should have no problem. I know me being the conservative makes me incline to work and according to independents it's not fair that I have the motivation to work. Just like it's not fair that I posses this much political knowledge. They try to even the board, but according to the constitution I have a right to gain knowledge and I will use what I gain.
BoyKagome 2 years ago
What the heck are you prattling on about? I already accepted it when I told you i looked at the articles the other day and all seemed pretty balanced. When you actually do "work" please let everyone else know. I think its time for you to relax and take a chill pill, you're rambling on.
PogueMoran 2 years ago
See this is where you don't make sense. Are you claiming district of columbia is a state? If so then Mississippi is the state with the highest poverty rating at 22.1%, red state. Below DC we have Louisiana, mixed state votes republican for president, new mexico normally republican, Arkansas republican, West Virginia, Kentucky, Texas, Alabama all red states. So DC and possibly New Mexico blue while the rest are red. What was your point? Now if we're talking districts, counties?
PogueMoran 3 years ago
Sure no problem, just took a drug test and physical for my interview at Wall Mart... and I got the job. That was easy, see I can do it. Also my name is Rob Sharkey, look up child molesters watch sites and see if you can find me. I didn't need until tomorrow, I did that in a matter of... 2:13... 2:14 now so one minute.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Oh yeah I forgot, well actually you forgot... That selective reading of yours is still acting up Mr. Independent. Might want to get it checked, you said I stated no source, whats it say in my first line.... hmm.... reading... and.... Yup what I thought, Washington AP... Liberal leaned paper so I'm surprised that story was in there... also do some research, Politico is liberal leaned too. We can turn it into a test if you want, both of us go to the politico website and count the story leans.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Lol the associated press isn't a newspaper. It's a news pool where various organizations put together pieces that are distributed to other papers. The AP Left leaning? Are you smoking crack? The AP was rather moderate until recently when they decided to push it more conservative. Politico left leaning? So to you anything left of crazy must be liberal since you're so far to the right.
PogueMoran 3 years ago
As for Tgear this is not my first time debating him, it always ends the same though. After I make a few good points he vanishes. I still got to say it's amazing you can find all this information even the most minute detail to defend the left, but I state the most broadest of cases from the right and your like "... that's not true, I don't believe it!" Doesn't sound like a independent to me. If the sources are fake, you should have no problem proving them wrong.. Like I said, watch Mexico.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
You have yet to name who on the left I'm defending. So far you haven't named any left leaning people you keep saying I defend the left but you haven't stated anyone left or right that I've "attacked or defended"
PogueMoran 3 years ago
Uh... how quickly they forget... Hillary, Obama, Geichner, Frank, Dod, Polishi, Clinton, Reed and Schumer... You want me to go back and copy and paste these debates? I'm sorry Pogue you might want to rest up today, your off you're game. Wake up and debate me like you normally do, I hate it when it's this easy.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Clinton Moderate, Obama left of Joe Lieberman, Geitner liberal how? He hasn't voted on anything and came from Goldman Sachs, Frank yeah he is a liberal that's one you got, Dodd Moderate, You already mentioned hillary, Reed moderate schumer moderate. Again you think every democrat is a liberal when most of them are centrist moderates. I'm on my game you're the one who has yet to use logic.
PogueMoran 3 years ago
I said Clinton, then Hillary.Schumer is the anti-christ...::tin foil hat moment, don't care though:: Hes soooooooo left. Pro-abortion, amnesty to illegals yuck you might want to rethink that one at least.... A attempt to discredit something instead of debate it is what is called a smear, prove that wrong for me if you truly think you can... Ok so if Can and Might aren't fair game, then maybe you should be mad at your side for using those words. Killing the messenger are we?
BoyKagome 3 years ago
lol Bill Clinton was no liberal he didn't have a voting record so how could you judge? He was a moderate who was pretty damned bipartisan considering the republicans controlled congress. Hillary again is a moderate. Schumer is prochoice you crazy types like to call it pro-abortion for letting a woman decide what to do. Yeah Reagan supported Amnesty I guess you're saying yuck to Reagan. Again you're making a logical fallacy saying "prove that wrong" you couldn't prove what you said
PogueMoran 3 years ago
I researched that actually and found out that the reason Reagan allowed that ear mark is because your side wouldn't fund a war to defend us and was going to vote it down without that ear mark. Just like what they did to Bush Senior. So your concept of " Reagen wanted amnesty" is wrong.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Uh huh reagan allowed this earmark. Do you know what an ear mark is? If reagan didn't agree with it why did he sign it into law? Yeah Reagan did support amnesty he signed the bill into law and forever he'll be known for that Amnesty of Illegal aliens.
PogueMoran 3 years ago
How you look at Black Mail is totally up to you. I know he didn't want to do it, and that's all that matters to me.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Black mail? How is him stepping down because they changed the revolving door from 2 years to one year black mail? And now we've reached the crux of your whole entire reason for being here. You don't care what the truth is but rather what "feels good" to you. The fact is the rules changed and he stepped down and became a lobbyist. Nothing magical about it.
PogueMoran 3 years ago
I want a cookie from you, in order to get that cookie you say I have to get you a snickers bar first. I don't have a snickers bar, I don't want to go to the candy store to pick up a snickers bar. But I want the cookie enough to go and get it. I did something I didn't want to do, in order to get what I want. Your a genius when defending.... "democrat moderates" and your brain becomes J-E-L-L-O when a conservative is defended. Oh well, looks like your a lot more prepared then yesterday.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Umm you're not getting my cookies tranny. Did you just lose your marbles? It's obvious that your arguments have lost steam as you have diverted so wildly off topic and failed to answer half my comments. No I ask you for a source to see where you got your crazy ideas. When I see you use a discredited source that doesn't even provide reasoning behind their conclusions I see you're nothing more than an echo chamber for talking points. I whipped your ass yesterday and everyday before that.
PogueMoran 3 years ago
AP is liberal leaned too. You Pogue it does surprise me you have all this knowledge to defend liberals while being a independent, and yet every single scrap of information I say you think i'm making it up like I have the intelligence to come up with half the things i'm saying, while I do find it to be a compliment, maybe you should just ask for proof next time instead of jumping straight to lie accusations. Webster- " Lie- " A deliberate misinterpretation of the truth." Your turn boys.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Boy, you are just a poorly informed, talking points repeater. You just made this big case for how well informed you are and how much research you do and you still got it wrong. We asked for proof, you gave us lies. Maybe they weren't your lies, but they were still lies and you presented them here without finding out the truth. "Non-Research Guy" must be you.
tgear77 3 years ago
Holy crap... you really are insulted by the "Non Researcher Guy" comment... It's about the equivalent of dumb dumb head but hey, i'm not here to judge how you take a blow.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
First, you didn't direct the "Non-REsearcher Guy" tag at me. I just found it funny that you would have the nerve to label someone else that. It is so obvious how little research you do before coming here to spout your garbage. And after this latest splurge where you are practically screaming at us about how much research you did and you were still wrong....well, I just found that ironic and wanted to toss the name back at you. It doesn't bother me, b/c I do my homework.
tgear77 3 years ago
The nerve to make a childish insult.. Holy crap do you know how petty you sound right now? I think you should leave debating to Pogue there Gear, he actually is able to keep up with me. But if you want to keep trying, feel free I have no problem with it. You'll put him at a disadvantage by making more for him to read in order to catch up and wont remember everything he wants to say. ::stretch:: So I say keep'em comin'. You posted 4 minutes ago right? So you should still be on youtube.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
I think gear is keeping up quite well. I haven't seen you actually knock anything down he's said other than to repeat right wing sources. Its okay self-loather I expect you to change the subject soon and go off on another tangent like before. Isn't this video about your tinfoil hat conspiracy that was dismissed by multiple judges for lack of standing? Good thing I'm a fast reader Kago and I actually do research instead of showing intellectual laziness by going to sites that support me first
PogueMoran 3 years ago
lol its funny you get offended by the non-researcher guy after you called someone else it. I think dost protest too much. Research isn't forming a conclusion and then going to all the right wing blogs for "evidence" to support your preconceived conclusion. Do you do scientific experiments the same way? You didn't even bother to read the bill before going to all those right wing sites to look for talking points. Its okay I'm waiting for you to get back to me on the Reagan Amnesty
PogueMoran 3 years ago
I didn't lol, he kept this childish little immature comment active. Like I said I was supprised he brought it back up. I don't have much to debate with you, most of your writing here is smears. " You cant use that source cause I dont like it" But its better than you who just says something and don't say who you got it from... But then again there is nothing to stop me from calling that a extreme left source, Gee guess that means I have actually said more than you.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Newsmax is funded by Richard Melon Scaife right wing operative, New American is a Birch Society rag, Heritage Foundation is a right wing think tank that gets paid to make shit up to pass on their talking points. You used unabashedly right wing rags and passed on their talking points but you have yet to read the bill. It has nothing to do with right or left those organizations are thoroughly discredited. I've told you where ive gotten stuff from. You know the actual bill like with Reagan.
PogueMoran 3 years ago
That's a smear, i'll ignore those. Debate the point, if it's wrong it should not be a problem. Prove it wrong, if you cant you lose the debate to what you claim is a lie. The bill does have a portion to it that can disallow seniors medical treatment based on cost effectiveness. Dashel said it himself " We want to take the more cost effective route and help the generation that is still working first." Dashels lib...
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Which part was a smear? There's nothing smearlike about pointing out something is right wing and has been discredited. I love how you use modifiers "can" "might" how about something the bill actually states it does rather than what you read on some right wing website?
PogueMoran 3 years ago
WASHINGTON (AP) - The $800 billion-plus economic stimulus measure making its way through Congress could steer government checks to illegal immigrants, a top Republican congressional official asserted Thursday.
The legislation, which would send tax credits of $500 per worker and $1,000 per couple, expressly disqualifies nonresident aliens, but it would allow people who don't have Social Security numbers to be eligible for the checks.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Undocumented immigrants who are not eligible for a Social Security number can file tax returns with an alternative number. A House-passed version of the economic recovery bill and one making its way through the Senate would allow anyone with such a number, called an individual taxpayer identification number, to qualify for the tax credits.
But BoyKagome just posts Smears and Innuendos right?... Sorry guys, I don't normally copy and paste but you made some personal attacks.. Blame yourselves.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
No, BoyK just prints what he reads on right wing sites. It took me one Google search to prove you wrong. Two "Senior GOP Officials" speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that the Stimulus would give $500 and $1000 rebates to illegal aliens. That is not true. In order to qualify for these rebates, filers must follow the same rules as applying for the Earned Income Credit. You must provide a valid Soc. Security Number to get it. Illegal Aliens get no rebates.
tgear77 3 years ago
... The quote I pulled off shows how they get around the SSC... I don't need to copy and paste normally, but you two really acted like I made up all my information. Now just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it false. Mark my words, I bet you my left arm after the stimulus the money going into Mexico will increase even though we have a poor economy.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
The quote you pulled out is from a republican talking point it is a hypothetical. As the bill is not passed yet how is it anyone has "gotten around" it? No Boy I knew you were repeating talking points I asked you for a source you still haven't stated the real source of the information. So you're betting your limp arm? Maybe you should bet your left testicle as well. The bill specifically prohibits undocumented non-resident aliens from getting the funds. But reality isn't your strong suite
PogueMoran 3 years ago
Yeah that is a smear and innuendo its not based on anything in the bill. The bill specifically says that non-resident immigrants are prohibited from collecting. So you're claiming that somehow some immigrants may illegally try to collect that somehow the bill provides $500 to illegal immigrants is not the same thing. You specifically claimed that the bill provides $500 to illegal immigrants. It does not. Again Republican talking points not based on the substance of the bill
PogueMoran 3 years ago
.. Well you got me there actually, I said the bill granted them 500 but I never mentioned the method on which the illegals obtained it. However I still stand beside my statement, watch the income going into Mexico sky rocket during the stimulus. I bet you my left arm, so if i'm wrong Pogue you can come to Michigan and cut the thing off.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
Method? You're talking about a non-existent hypothetical. The bill itself states that it prohibits non-resident aliens from applying for the money. This isn't the same as what you stated. You stated the bill grants $500 to illegals it does not. Nowhere in the bill does it say that. So admit you're wrong and move on.
PogueMoran 3 years ago
Finally the congressmen your looking for his from Virginia, that should narrow you're search down. I know your going to come at me with "that congressmen does drugs, rapes children and eats the heads off monkeys" like all liberals do, all the while ignoring people like Obama who did take drugs, Studds who did rape children and... I don't