The Australian Greens politcal party are smirking, laughing at all the Liberal, National and Labour politians, and all us voters. The greens are standing back, watching all this discord, hate and division they have caused. This has been a 4 decade plan!
Brown and his eco-religious congregation, needs to be taught a big lesson, 'AND NOW IS THE PERFECT TIME TO PUT THE BOOT INTO THE GREENS' , kick them back down were they belong, with the pixies!
Not merely the communist boogy man but internal Labor party rifts and forgettable opposition leaders to be fair. Remember Australia has one of the fairest electoral systems and Australians could have voted for Labor if they wanted to oust Bob and did vote Labor in 1972. Menzies also knew when to retire and allow the Liberals to change with the times. Chavez is an electoral rigger or at the very least has made it impossible for middle/upper classes to be fairly represented and Hitler well!
The Liberal party only ever represented a handful of mostly socially conservative oligarchs who formed the fraudulently mis-named "Liberal" party in reaction to and fear of genuine workers democracy and trade unionism represented by the ALP at the time. The Liberals has always been about entrenching class and maintaining the oligarchy and opulence of grateful elites.
@Tuathalful The Liberal party represents all levels of society. Three examples: Howards western sydney battlers, the union loggers in Northern Tasmania supported John Howard in 2004 when Latham turned against against them for the green vote and the working class battlers that Brumby forgot about voted Liberal in South Eastern suburbs of Melbourne last week. Paul Keating and Kevin Rudd were more an elitist than Howard or Fraser ever were.
liberal made this nation what it is today. its fucking changed alot since 1998 and Liberal made all the new laws and fell for the Bullshit war In Iraq. I completely opose this we all know 911 was an inside Job But Oh No Johnny howard and his best mates Liberal cocksuckers. Now they want to regulate the banks and tell people where thay should anbd should not bank. Its true Liberal will bullshit to their kids to get in they beleive their own bullshit. Lies and Spin. Cocksuckers.
Howard made it illegal to strike and the Australian public was forced to work for sub-minimum wages under WorkChoices if they didn't sign an AWA. Oh no! The Libs don't like that being mentioned.
@TJNorton1 it wasn't illegal, you just had no protections, and why should there be a minimum wage, if minimum wage laws worked why don't we just set the minimum wage to $100/hour?
@TJNorton1 And union officials continue to this day to make business owners feel guilty for making a profit. Oh no! Labor and the unions do not like that being mentioned.
Exactly Mr Reco but its still well thought out,not a lot has changed apart from a new house lol,you gotta love our country but hey mate,tks for posting got a good laugh.
@MrReco12 Menzies was the longest serving Prime Minister Australia unlike your grandparents most Australians were happy to continue to support a competent menzies led government between 1949 and 1966.
@MrReco12 Competence: economic boom period, skilled orator and diplomat, visionary, commitment to fighting the Nazis, thousands of displaced WW2 migrants wanting to come and live in Australia, commitment to fighting communism Commendable!
@MrReco12 When Britain declared war in 39 against Germany Menzies annouced Australia was at war too, he continued to support the war effort of Curtin whilst in opposition. Labor cannot take all the credit for immigration and snowy mountains and it wanted to nationalize our banks! Admittedly the iron ore sales was a mistake but they occurred in the 1920s when we did not know they would invade the Pacific a few years later. Furthermore if Menzies was so incompetent why did he win so many elections
Shame the Liberal Party isn't anything like it was in it's hey-day, as evidenced by their greatest PM, Malcolm Fraser, leaving the party. The Liberal Party was once dominated by Liberals of a sort, and did achieve some positive things, now it's dominated by conservative rightwingers :( Even more so then when Howard was in.
@deodorant93 They've given pretty much all the guarantees that they can to not bring back work choices. I think that since that Tony Abbott was one of the dissenting voices in the coalition party room on work choices, and given that they plainly realize that they will be annihilated if they bring work choices back, I think we can be pretty sure they wont bring it back. The only thing they're hinting about changing is unfair dismissal in small businesses 15 people or less.
@llllloooooo no, Tony Abbott has extreme right wing opinions on workplace relations and will bring in something worse than workchoices after his first term, which he's looking likely to get.
@deodorant93 you obviously have never studied economic theory if you think that workchoices was extremely right wing. workchoices at the most was barely centre right wing in a country with an industrial relations system that still resembles the 1950s.
oh and I suppose you believe all the labor lies about workchoices too? you do realize that the number of people who were unwillingly dismissed under workchoices went down to the lowest level in decades?
@AussiePolitics You're right I haven't studied economic theory and don't need to. I have much more bargaining power when collective than individual and the bosses know that. It means I get more pay and they get less which is good.
@deodorant93 no, what it means is that EVERYONE gets paid LESS so that everyone gets paid equally. all that this does is mean that there is LESS money for more people to gain entry into the profession. its basically the employees way of locking other people out
@AussiePolitics That's general comment and probably doesn't apply to me. Nor does it account for the mining boom, real estate boom or the bogan plumbers down the road who just bought a new ute and motorbike.
@deodorant93 well actually mate the mining sector was the one sector of the economy that really took to the new individual contracts and it saw their wages go up massively because people had the power to negotiate their own terms.
@deodorant93 and if you bothered to ever look at the statistics you would realize that the vast majority of AWAs were taken up gladly by the mining sector. that's why the individual contracts were introduced, so that certain jobs in industries could experience large price rises without it flowing on through the rest of the economy. the unions in other sectors in the 80s used wage increases in mining to justify pay increases for themselves. all that did was just massively increase inflation.
@AussiePolitics Are there really stats on the willingness of mining workers to uptake AWA's? Really? Please tell. Yeah whatever, a dollar in my pocket is better than in the bosses!
@deodorant93 why do you think they were so readily adopted in the industry, and at such a wide scale? skilled workers held ALL the cards when dealing with the mines who desperately needed their labour.
@deodorant93 by the way, people were ALWAYS able to negotiate as a group if they wanted. however when a big group bands together for better pay it means that there is LESS money for other people to get jobs and it means that everyone will collectively get paid less because people are not being paid based on merit, just on how many hours they work, not how productive they are.
@AussiePolitics That's an over simplification. And why do Liberal voters always have to write something in capitals? Are you trying to convince youself?
@deodorant93 its simple economics. if you're all getting together and saying that is the wage you're all going to paid it doesn't take a genius to work out there will be less money for a) more people to get jobs and b) the productive worker to get better wages. and no, I am just frustrated by someone who obviously has never read an economics testbook in their life.
oh and i dont support the liberals. all workchoices did was reregulate the market. our IR system still needs big reform.
@AussiePolitics Well mate congratulations for reading an economics book, was it just one? I'm still waiting for you to show the stats on mining workers who've uptaken AWA's, please tell. And I have read studies from Unions showing workers pay rates are higher under enterprise agreements than individuals, and we get paid penalty rates. And I believe unions before facists like yourself.
@deodorant93 well done for utterly revealing your own ignorance. you call me a fascist did you ever understand the fascist economic policies? they were virtually socialist. extreme government intervention, control and running of the economy.
the workers wages went up massively after AWAs were introduced. it was the main reason it was brought in so that their pay rise would mean nothing as the unions used it as an excuse for raises in ALL industries, voiding any benefit as inflation went up.
Well according to Socialist doctrine - if companies are nationalised than you are correct. Why don't you go out and employ some Australians and make a contribution to the country. Or perhaps you prefer to sit in an internet cafe reading our Marx & Engels Almanac than actually working. And Unions have a place in Australian Society, but the corruptness needs to be crushed from them.
@mattzorich Let's crush the "corruption" of our governments through collusion with capital, and corruption in our police forces, while we're at it... It is a myth that unions are more prone to corruption then private enterprise, police or government.
@AussiePolitics You concede WorkChoices was at least center right, and we all know the Libs have always wanted to take it further; WorkChoices was not just bad policy in itself, but the thin end of the wedge for even worse attacks on the rights and living standards of Australians. But this is not America; this isn't a jungle or the wild west; this isn't a playground for the rich; it's a democracy with its own traditions of social justice; don't like it, leave :P
@Tuathalful except a) average wages under workchoices across the WHOLE economy went up during the period workchoices was in effect. b) unemployment went down: ie. more people got jobs and c) DISIMISSALS WENT DOWN to a 20 year low. so quite frankly your view that workchoices suddenly led to mass sackings or drops in wages is utter crap.
oh and our IR laws are in dire need of reform, but not labor's reform who basically want to take us back to the 1950s
Why bother. Gillard got into power without a vote from the nation..... This means that democracy doesn't exist and if we vote for someone in the future there is still no guarantee they will stay as PM. Throw your vote, VOTE FOR PEDRO
@Mynameisbob84 You never voted for Rudd or Howard or whoever either if you didn't live in their seat. The party has always been responsible for electing the leader, and in government, that means the prime minister.
"Full employment" LOLZ. If they were really dedicated to Capitalism they'd know that's impossible.
brentoneccles 2 months ago
Vote Liberal.
I will also hunt down and brutally murder anyone who speaks ill of Saint Menzies. /raeg
BorsBaledwyr 8 months ago
I can't except how ,it has come to all this!
The Australian Greens politcal party are smirking, laughing at all the Liberal, National and Labour politians, and all us voters. The greens are standing back, watching all this discord, hate and division they have caused. This has been a 4 decade plan!
Brown and his eco-religious congregation, needs to be taught a big lesson, 'AND NOW IS THE PERFECT TIME TO PUT THE BOOT INTO THE GREENS' , kick them back down were they belong, with the pixies!
MRMILO57 11 months ago
..HEAR HEAR!!! great post JRB
newellgirl 1 year ago
Not merely the communist boogy man but internal Labor party rifts and forgettable opposition leaders to be fair. Remember Australia has one of the fairest electoral systems and Australians could have voted for Labor if they wanted to oust Bob and did vote Labor in 1972. Menzies also knew when to retire and allow the Liberals to change with the times. Chavez is an electoral rigger or at the very least has made it impossible for middle/upper classes to be fairly represented and Hitler well!
CMFrenchEsq 1 year ago
The Liberal party only ever represented a handful of mostly socially conservative oligarchs who formed the fraudulently mis-named "Liberal" party in reaction to and fear of genuine workers democracy and trade unionism represented by the ALP at the time. The Liberals has always been about entrenching class and maintaining the oligarchy and opulence of grateful elites.
Tuathalful 1 year ago
@Tuathalful The Liberal party represents all levels of society. Three examples: Howards western sydney battlers, the union loggers in Northern Tasmania supported John Howard in 2004 when Latham turned against against them for the green vote and the working class battlers that Brumby forgot about voted Liberal in South Eastern suburbs of Melbourne last week. Paul Keating and Kevin Rudd were more an elitist than Howard or Fraser ever were.
CMFrenchEsq 1 year ago
liberal made this nation what it is today. its fucking changed alot since 1998 and Liberal made all the new laws and fell for the Bullshit war In Iraq. I completely opose this we all know 911 was an inside Job But Oh No Johnny howard and his best mates Liberal cocksuckers. Now they want to regulate the banks and tell people where thay should anbd should not bank. Its true Liberal will bullshit to their kids to get in they beleive their own bullshit. Lies and Spin. Cocksuckers.
teslaglobal 1 year ago
this is our election '10 parody
like if u agree this year was really shoddy... this vid was with no offence intended
well maybe to abbott
check it out
DEVI8Productions 1 year ago
Howard made it illegal to strike and the Australian public was forced to work for sub-minimum wages under WorkChoices if they didn't sign an AWA. Oh no! The Libs don't like that being mentioned.
TJNorton1 1 year ago
@TJNorton1 it wasn't illegal, you just had no protections, and why should there be a minimum wage, if minimum wage laws worked why don't we just set the minimum wage to $100/hour?
domvasta 1 year ago
@domvasta that's an economically responsible argument .. LOL!
TJNorton1 1 year ago
@TJNorton1 And union officials continue to this day to make business owners feel guilty for making a profit. Oh no! Labor and the unions do not like that being mentioned.
CMFrenchEsq 1 year ago
Exactly Mr Reco but its still well thought out,not a lot has changed apart from a new house lol,you gotta love our country but hey mate,tks for posting got a good laugh.
rapide89b 1 year ago
My Grandparents, who lived through Menzies incompetence, used to refer to that old fool as "Pig Iron bob" .
MrReco12 1 year ago
@MrReco12 Menzies was the longest serving Prime Minister Australia unlike your grandparents most Australians were happy to continue to support a competent menzies led government between 1949 and 1966.
CMFrenchEsq 1 year ago
@CMFrenchEsq
Competence?
20% + inflation
500 dead in Vietnam
credit squeeze
pig iron Fiasco
Egon Kirsch affair!
Shameful!
MrReco12 1 year ago
@MrReco12 Competence: economic boom period, skilled orator and diplomat, visionary, commitment to fighting the Nazis, thousands of displaced WW2 migrants wanting to come and live in Australia, commitment to fighting communism Commendable!
CMFrenchEsq 1 year ago
@CMFrenchEsq
comitmemtn to fightnig Nazis?
That guy gave pig iron to the Japanese and it was John Curtinn who lead us to victory against the Japanese empire.
Labor was responsible or the post war immigration scheme and the snowy mountains scheme.
MrReco12 1 year ago
@MrReco12 When Britain declared war in 39 against Germany Menzies annouced Australia was at war too, he continued to support the war effort of Curtin whilst in opposition. Labor cannot take all the credit for immigration and snowy mountains and it wanted to nationalize our banks! Admittedly the iron ore sales was a mistake but they occurred in the 1920s when we did not know they would invade the Pacific a few years later. Furthermore if Menzies was so incompetent why did he win so many elections
CMFrenchEsq 1 year ago
@CMFrenchEsq
Due to the communist boogy man. Remember Hitler won an election and Hugo Chavez is the longest serving president of his country.
MrReco12 1 year ago
Hey Australian dude, I have an election ad for you: /watch?v=3Q6ulPAPeGo
thejobloshow 1 year ago
Shame the Liberal Party isn't anything like it was in it's hey-day, as evidenced by their greatest PM, Malcolm Fraser, leaving the party. The Liberal Party was once dominated by Liberals of a sort, and did achieve some positive things, now it's dominated by conservative rightwingers :( Even more so then when Howard was in.
Tuathalful 1 year ago
Amazing how relevant this is to today's situation.
cavalierjon 1 year ago
I'd like to vote Coalition but can't due to their IR philosophy. Just drop it and win.
deodorant93 1 year ago
@deodorant93 They've given pretty much all the guarantees that they can to not bring back work choices. I think that since that Tony Abbott was one of the dissenting voices in the coalition party room on work choices, and given that they plainly realize that they will be annihilated if they bring work choices back, I think we can be pretty sure they wont bring it back. The only thing they're hinting about changing is unfair dismissal in small businesses 15 people or less.
llllloooooo 1 year ago
@llllloooooo no, Tony Abbott has extreme right wing opinions on workplace relations and will bring in something worse than workchoices after his first term, which he's looking likely to get.
deodorant93 1 year ago
@deodorant93 you obviously have never studied economic theory if you think that workchoices was extremely right wing. workchoices at the most was barely centre right wing in a country with an industrial relations system that still resembles the 1950s.
oh and I suppose you believe all the labor lies about workchoices too? you do realize that the number of people who were unwillingly dismissed under workchoices went down to the lowest level in decades?
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@AussiePolitics You're right I haven't studied economic theory and don't need to. I have much more bargaining power when collective than individual and the bosses know that. It means I get more pay and they get less which is good.
deodorant93 1 year ago
@deodorant93 no, what it means is that EVERYONE gets paid LESS so that everyone gets paid equally. all that this does is mean that there is LESS money for more people to gain entry into the profession. its basically the employees way of locking other people out
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@AussiePolitics That's general comment and probably doesn't apply to me. Nor does it account for the mining boom, real estate boom or the bogan plumbers down the road who just bought a new ute and motorbike.
deodorant93 1 year ago
@deodorant93 well actually mate the mining sector was the one sector of the economy that really took to the new individual contracts and it saw their wages go up massively because people had the power to negotiate their own terms.
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@AussiePolitics dubious at best. I think the %150 increase in price and shortage of labour had more to do with it.
deodorant93 1 year ago
@deodorant93 and if you bothered to ever look at the statistics you would realize that the vast majority of AWAs were taken up gladly by the mining sector. that's why the individual contracts were introduced, so that certain jobs in industries could experience large price rises without it flowing on through the rest of the economy. the unions in other sectors in the 80s used wage increases in mining to justify pay increases for themselves. all that did was just massively increase inflation.
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@AussiePolitics Are there really stats on the willingness of mining workers to uptake AWA's? Really? Please tell. Yeah whatever, a dollar in my pocket is better than in the bosses!
deodorant93 1 year ago
@deodorant93 why do you think they were so readily adopted in the industry, and at such a wide scale? skilled workers held ALL the cards when dealing with the mines who desperately needed their labour.
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@deodorant93 by the way, people were ALWAYS able to negotiate as a group if they wanted. however when a big group bands together for better pay it means that there is LESS money for other people to get jobs and it means that everyone will collectively get paid less because people are not being paid based on merit, just on how many hours they work, not how productive they are.
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@AussiePolitics That's an over simplification. And why do Liberal voters always have to write something in capitals? Are you trying to convince youself?
deodorant93 1 year ago
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@deodorant93 its simple economics. if you're all getting together and saying that is the wage you're all going to paid it doesn't take a genius to work out there will be less money for a) more people to get jobs and b) the productive worker to get better wages. and no, I am just frustrated by someone who obviously has never read an economics testbook in their life.
oh and i dont support the liberals. all workchoices did was reregulate the market. our IR system still needs big reform.
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@AussiePolitics Well mate congratulations for reading an economics book, was it just one? I'm still waiting for you to show the stats on mining workers who've uptaken AWA's, please tell. And I have read studies from Unions showing workers pay rates are higher under enterprise agreements than individuals, and we get paid penalty rates. And I believe unions before facists like yourself.
deodorant93 1 year ago
@deodorant93 well done for utterly revealing your own ignorance. you call me a fascist did you ever understand the fascist economic policies? they were virtually socialist. extreme government intervention, control and running of the economy.
the workers wages went up massively after AWAs were introduced. it was the main reason it was brought in so that their pay rise would mean nothing as the unions used it as an excuse for raises in ALL industries, voiding any benefit as inflation went up.
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@deodorant93 You just lost the argument. Baseless ad hominem does not make up for your lack of brain power.
Rotpig 1 year ago
@deodorant93 Without "Bosses" there are no employees you dipshit.
Rotpig 1 year ago
@Rotpig that's the stupidest thing I've ever read.
deodorant93 1 year ago
@deodorant93
Well according to Socialist doctrine - if companies are nationalised than you are correct. Why don't you go out and employ some Australians and make a contribution to the country. Or perhaps you prefer to sit in an internet cafe reading our Marx & Engels Almanac than actually working. And Unions have a place in Australian Society, but the corruptness needs to be crushed from them.
mattzorich 1 year ago
@mattzorich Let's crush the "corruption" of our governments through collusion with capital, and corruption in our police forces, while we're at it... It is a myth that unions are more prone to corruption then private enterprise, police or government.
Tuathalful 1 year ago
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@deodorant93 Obviously you don't read your own posts.
Rotpig 1 year ago
@Rotpig That's the second stupidest thing I've ever read. Are you trying?
deodorant93 1 year ago
@AussiePolitics You concede WorkChoices was at least center right, and we all know the Libs have always wanted to take it further; WorkChoices was not just bad policy in itself, but the thin end of the wedge for even worse attacks on the rights and living standards of Australians. But this is not America; this isn't a jungle or the wild west; this isn't a playground for the rich; it's a democracy with its own traditions of social justice; don't like it, leave :P
Tuathalful 1 year ago
@Tuathalful except a) average wages under workchoices across the WHOLE economy went up during the period workchoices was in effect. b) unemployment went down: ie. more people got jobs and c) DISIMISSALS WENT DOWN to a 20 year low. so quite frankly your view that workchoices suddenly led to mass sackings or drops in wages is utter crap.
oh and our IR laws are in dire need of reform, but not labor's reform who basically want to take us back to the 1950s
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
sounds just like thatcher.. and we think we took this from thatcher
justpostit 1 year ago
Why bother. Gillard got into power without a vote from the nation..... This means that democracy doesn't exist and if we vote for someone in the future there is still no guarantee they will stay as PM. Throw your vote, VOTE FOR PEDRO
Mynameisbob84 1 year ago
@Mynameisbob84 You never voted for Rudd or Howard or whoever either if you didn't live in their seat. The party has always been responsible for electing the leader, and in government, that means the prime minister.
finc92 1 year ago
@Mynameisbob84 This is why people should have to sit a civics test before being allowed to vote.
bakadazcha 1 year ago