The war and Israeli opinion Pt 1

[siddeeqahsharif]

Why to people act like Gazans are armed with ROCKS?? Rocks weren't what hit a school bus a couple months ago, rocks aren't what killed civilians in their car while driving on a road near Gaza, rocks aren't what destroyed homes near Beersheva, give me a break. Hamas, and Islamic Jihad are ARMED, not with rocks but with guns, and missles, at the end of the day, I'm against what the war on Gaza but I don't pretend that Palestinians are only throwing stones.

[sini8080]

Professor of Political Geography? He reminds me of a football hooligan. I was waiting for him to shout "WANT SOME?! AYE!". I doubt the man could even spell "political geography".

[Alfadadoromeo]

@sini8080 lol true that

[ANTIDALLARD]

who IS this British bullshitter? Spouting the official IDF propoganda.

[MichaelRMcCoy]

shaliAnn - You actually try to ignore that two separate poorly manufactured justifications for attacking Iran have been thwarted by rogue elements in US intelligence and the Pentagon?

Your credibility is taking a beating, Einstein.

[shaliAnn]

'MichaelRMcCoy'.... A terrorist nation would have a policy of deliberate attacks on civilians, with intent to cause fear and death. As regards the balance of your overwrought comment, I refer you to my previous reply. P.S: I have a doctorate in physics. I'm afraid you begin to bore me, therefore I recommend you find someone of your academic level to joust with.

[MichaelRMcCoy]

shaliAnn - What a shame such education has utterly failed to hone a mind capable of critical reasoning - and you continue to validate your premise through abject ignorance of the facts.

Facts that aren't terribly illusive to the sensible, objective mind.

A stark reminder, that those that proclaim their own brilliance, seldom are.

[shaliAnn]

'MichaelRMcCoy'... "would it be prudent to support your point ?" What nonsense. It is Your aim to indict U.S. foreign policy and military expenditure. It is you who is obliged to present salient facts in a coherent argument ,with proper context, in support of your claims. Jingoism: a warlike foreign policy. U.S. hegemony: clearly pejorative usage you neglect to define. Attempts to justify an attack on Iran. Your comment amounts to little more than accusations and anti-U.S. rhetoric.

[MichaelRMcCoy]

shaliAnn - The US Senate is Israeli occupied territory, any attempt to deny it is to engage in remarkable banality.

Denying US jingoism? If you require the term hegemony to be defined, aren't you in a bit over your head?

You actually claim that two separate manufactured justifications for attacking Iran have been thwarted by rogue elements in US intelligence and the Pentagon? Do you spend much of your time in a cave? Or is your source for information limited to government approved outlets?

[shaliAnn]

Very well, Mr 'truthspeaker969' You maintain that Israel is "A terrorist nation - 120 %" You realize, of course, the seriousness of the charge you are making? Perhaps then, you will be good enough to present the documented proof upon which you base it? Take care, now! We're waiting......

[MichaelRMcCoy]

shaliAnn - to validate the critical aspect of your central assertion - that Israel is not a terrorist nation - you must find a way to dismiss/deny the core legal reality, that the remaining Palestinian lands (that have not yet been stolen) are under active and ongoing military occupation by the State of Israel.

Does it occur to you that this is the sine qua non in any discussion of who is, and who is not a terrorist?

Let us assess your credibility, shall we?

[MichaelRMcCoy]

Until it becomes acknowledged that the entirety of the remaining Palestinian lands, (that are, by any reasonable assessment, the largest open air prisons on earth, under military occupation by Israel), the core of the matter is being ignored.

According to UN mandates, any people who's land is militarily occupied, may respond in self defense.

This critical, fundamental aspect of the Israeli/Palestinian "releationship" or conflict" is carefully and vigorously suppressed.

[shaliAnn]

U.S. is a 'terrorist' nation. Sure. Many illiterates have taken to propagating this absurd fiction. A 'terrorist' nation would be one that deliberately attacked civilians, with the intention to cause fear and death. Those who wish to use this label should first understand what it means, and then attach it where it belongs - to Hamas.

[truthspeaker969]

"A 'terrorist' nation would be one that deliberately attacked civilians, with the intention to cause fear and deathThose who wish to use this label should first understand what it means, and then attach it where it belongs "

120 % Israel

[AbtinX]

There is no talking with zionists, no discussion you can have on rational basis. So just don't, if you believe that they are wrong then fight them. The soviets didn't discuss the error of the nazi invasion they fought it

[BlesamaSoul]

84 Hamas fighters dead, no one beleives that! anyhow looking at news reports we only ever see the amulance arrive, the rushing around of chaps who seem out of control and the usual footage of a woman and child with some blood and debris on them, Hamas fighters seem shy when it comes to news footage! Hamas figures for wounded and killed bear out that they must be hiding behind civilians, either way the IDF did well and Hamas will get another kicking soon when they break the ceasefire

[eliseannville]

The Germans didn't have too much concern either. I guess they didn't let those pesky journalists into the camps back then.

[midnightslastashes]

post some sources please?

[bundangbear]

I've had Zionists from Israel try to tell me on my own vid (search ISRAEL OUT OF GAZA NOW!) that there are NO protests against the war in Israel! WHAT LIES!!

[mixmatosis]

700 Israeli anti-war protesters have been arrested. Here was me thinking it was a democracy.

[simply2ghetto]

Why has this guy got a semi-cockney accent?

[cheddyrod]

Because he came from the UK.

[WARDOG1138]

well mister average israeli isn't all that educated then, since Israel is still and has been occupying Gaza.

[melora72]

Soldiers coming home in body bags. At least the Israelis see that much reality. You don't see bodybags in the US media anymore. Bush said it is disrespectful to the families. The true reason is so the war won't seem so real.

[asperin]

Israel has the borders controlled, the cities bombed, powerful satellites, spy drones BUT the rockets keep coming in?

Mossad and False Flag are like BFF, dude.

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[impartial1]

The cocktail of religion and politics will be the end of us all.

As long as Orthodox Jews control the balance of power in Israel, Muslim radicals control Arab governments,

 and right-wing Christian fundamentalists (with their Jewish lobbyist partners) control American foreign policy, there will never be peace in Palestine.

My God wants to sue them all for defamation.

[cutegual]

EUROSCAn Well said!!

[samudra8O]

The non muslim world is with Israel. Hope you succeed one day in civilizing those around you.

[redredwine23]

That is a lie. Please speak for yourself. The only country for Israel's adventure in Gaza is the US.

[urlocalSAVAGE]

speak for yourself. America is not behind Israel on this. The non muslim world is not for Israel, because we are not for genocide. Israel is a racist apartheid state that has been trying to wipe out the Palestinians for years. up until this recent attack on the people of Gaza Israel killed over 4000 Palestinians and 59% of them were civilians and those numbers come from the UN.

[hanivideos]

are you serious?

[urlocalSAVAGE]

I'm american and I'm not muslim, personally I think religion is stupid. But I have to say FUCK ISRAEL, they are the real terrorist bastards that need to be stopped.

[samudra8O]

tell me what can you give to the victims of terror, other than your "sympathies", so fuck you first. Israel needs to win or it ceases to exist. don't support terror or you will find it coming to your door steps asking for you to convert to allahs cannibal cult.

[urlocalSAVAGE]

your an idiot. the victims of terror? the jews could pull the victim card back during the Holocaust, its too late now. Now Israel is the oppressor and the victims are the Palestinian people. If where you lived was being occupied would you not fight back?Israel doesn't get sympathy, not when you're blowing up schools hospitals and setting UN relief centers on fire.

[samudra8O]

Its because of mother fuckers like that we have terrorists today killings thousands of people all over the world. why the fucking hell dont you you open your mouth , when Hammas shoots rockets in schools in Israel, where the fuck are you then ? who provoked the war you stinking asshole ? just because you are weak does not make you right. get that straight.

[urlocalSAVAGE]

Hamas is not occupying Israel. Those rockets killed very few people. Meanwhile Israel has been going in and out of the Gaza strip picking off civilians constantly killing Palestinians by the dozens.Look at what the UN reports. From September 2000 to July 2007 Israel killed 4,228 Palestinians. Hezbollah killed 1024 Israelis.

[urlocalSAVAGE]

And we also have governments that kill thousands of innocent people just because they can. Israel would be nothing without America. Israel is a piece of shit, just wait till we stop supplying you evil bastards. Israelis will be shitting their pants just to go to the grocery store in fear they might not return in one piece.

[samudra8O]

you are sounding more and more like a muslim... lol. go check out what is the contribution of jews to american science and economy, then talk about who is surviving on whom and for your information i am not jew. muslims are no match for israel and thats a fact, so shut the fk up and play your organ...assole

[samer721]

Yes i agree with you, we all should just quit living. this is what you want right?

[urlocalSAVAGE]

lol so yea America would be nothing without Israel, that's funny.If it were not for America Israel would not exist.Where does Israel get the military technology they use to kill innocent people?Israel hasn't been wiped off the face of the earth is because of its ties to America and no other reason.

[FireFlyWW]

samudra8O

Yes, now I see how much you hate muslims.

This is not islamophobia, this is pure racism.

And this doesn't create a ground for educated and logic argument.

So racism it is.. We see it clearly now...

[clearview007]

well if islam is a race then it would be racism... so what is your say, is it a race or a religion ?

[trabaly]

stop talking like Bush ok.

give the palestinians freedom and their land

back.

we have internet now we see thing in difrent way

the holocaust didn,t happend in palestine ok

they must not pay for that. those european who suport you today is them you must blame not the palestinians

enough is enough,we are tired of your lies

we are tired of your victim card

we are tired of your occupatin and your check point,that.s the fact and you know it and the world know it

[toeg1]

samudra,

Most of the nonMuslim world looks at Israel as the second largest terrorist state behind the US. You should really grab a newspaper and read it sometime. I hope someday you become civilized and understand that killing babies doesn't make you a hero, quite the contrary. There's a reason who so many in the world compare Israeli military tactics with German tactics during WWII. Read up on the Warsaw ghetto and compare it to Gaza. The truth hurts, doesn't it??

[senglord]

And most nations are either terrorist states

or states that are inextricably entwined with

terrorist states.

Globalization is a bitch ain't it.

[senglord]

By the rationale posted on this page most nations are either terrorist states

or states that are inextricably entwined with

terrorist states.

Europe is entwined with the United States.

Central America is entwined with US/USSR/PRC

South America is entwined with US/USSR/PRC

Sad but true.

Follow your logic and behold your complicity.

I just think you are all wrong.

Globalization.

[toeg1]

senglord,

You are rambling and make no sense. Your definition of "entwine" would be helpful. All countries in the world are "entwined" in one way or another. The mere fact that they have embassies in each other's country demonstrates that. And then you say "you are all wrong."

"Globalization."

You put the word "globalization" by itself and separate from all other sentences for a reason, but you don't even explain it. Are you talking to someone named globalization?? Ramblings, nothing more.

[senglord]

America's weapons are primarily designed by contracted European weapon manufacturers.

If any of these gov'ts objected to the obvious uses that these weapons would used for, they could do so.

China uses our "incursions" to justify what they do to nations like Tibet and people like the Ulghiers.

USSR justifies its actions to dissident states (Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, etc.) by evoking the USA

Embassies mean nothing.

Hundreds of trillions of dollars in money circulation mean a lot.

Globalization.

[toeg1]

senglord,

I guess that's what cleaned up looks like to you.

I don't know that anyone's overly concerned who owns the patents for our weapons. Other countries wouldn't need to use it to voice their opinion. Certainly, the Turkish leader didn't check first.

That doesn't mean much, though. I didn't see too many in Israel or the US cower in fear. Yes we are the leading terrorist state in the world with more people behind bars than any other country on Earth.

Rastafarianism

[senglord]

It isn't the patents, its the money.

Foreign weapon manufacturers own and sell us our shiny $200000000+ weapons systems.

Calling the United States the biggest terorist state in the world is a dangerous oversimplification.

It goes with calling the British empire the most repressive regime in the world.

Sounds real right when said, not so much when looked at objectively.

Most of those behind bars are incarcerated for BS drug charges (they are usually guilty though)

Thailand just shoots them

[toeg1]

senglord,

You're losing credibility fast. The US does not buy ALL our weapons from overseas. Have you ever heard of a company called Halliburton?? Lockheed Martin and dozens of others, all American cos. Since the US invades more countries, sells more weapons and uses more weapons than any other nation on Earth, I think the title of Biggest Terror state fits just fine. And just leave your supposed knowledge of Thailand. You bring a whole new meaning to the term oversimplification.

[senglord]

toeg1 Lockheed Martin does not design all/ most of their own parts. It is cheaper to get them from abroad. Halliburton is an oil company that got paid to build a country and couldn't do it because they were incompetent. Terror-state? No, not really. based on what exactly? Is it anything that other nations with power over other nations haven't done? No is it bad? Yes For the average person all over the world? Yes Including the average US citizen? Yes P.S. Thai law does allow that

[MichaelRMcCoy]

The United States comprises less than five percent of the world's population - yet accounts for over fifty percent of the worlds' military expenditures. (More than all other nations on earth, combined).

If that isn't a glaring example and indication of US priorities, hegemony and jingoism, I truly do not know what would be.

[shaliAnn]

'MichaelRMcCoy'  ..."the U.S. comprises less than five percent of the world's population, yet accounts for over 50% of global military expenditure: isn't that an example of U.S. priorities, hegemony and jingoism?" .... Well, not really.

First, I would argue that the U.S. government cannot seriously be accused of 'hegemony', or 'jingoism'. With regard to U.S. priorities: it is clear the premise of your question cannot support the answers you seem to imply.

[MichaelRMcCoy]

shaliAnn - Making such a claim, wouldn't it be prudent to actually demonstrate/support your point with salient facts?

The US responsible for over 50% of the earth's military expenditures, by your account, is not, indeed, a demonstration of hegemony and jingoism?

Did you think that through before actually posting?

With two ongoing wars, one of which was based on lies, with repeated attempts to justify an attack on Iran and military bases in over 100 foreign countries, think it over, will you?

[jesuschrustpizza]

If the U.S. is going to support Israel with weapons and money to such an extreme, it should get a U.S. Military base on Israeli soil. U.S. presence would help keep the peace.

Israel was in the wrong from the beginning. Pull out of the occupied territories, then there will be talk of peace agreements.

[truthspeaker969]

"U.S. presence would help keep the peace."

are you joking ?

[jesuschrustpizza]

Eh, maybe I'm totally wrong, but the U.S. should be there anyway.

[HotLeper]

Don't worry Israel. You have a friend in America and Obama is 100% behind you.

[madeinmexicoband]

Not 100% sorry...

[aaron343432]

They protest and are attacked. Shows you what the government is like.

[massai86]

WOW.... throwing this bullshit in our faces like it's not big deal.

[WhoRonPaul]

i'll reserve judgement until i see an interview with a palestinian person sitting calmly in their library sharing their experience of the situation

[okiedragonlady2]

Both sides are wrong - but just looking at land mass makes you see Gaza as small and Israel as larger and Israel has superior weaponry. The fact that Israel built fenses and shuns the Palestinians seems to make them the bigger bullies. My husband would say drop bombs and wipe both sides out - they are doing that themselves - and what good does that do. Most of the German people didn't see the ovens either - doesn't make it go away or right - time to end this mess.

[rlh68]

It was just an accident when they bombed that shcool, and that one, and that one...

[rencrow]

and that one and that one, and that university, and that UN facility, and the other UN facility, and that hospital, and that humanitarian organization, and that red cross ambulance...etc etc

[urlocalSAVAGE]

well put

[oliversinhell]

this guy looks like he's from the middle east ( laughs ) and has an english accent as well ! those israelis are a funny breed ! at least the Palestinians look like they belong there , even the dead ones !

FREE PALESTINE !!!

[watchMEshyne]

Right on!!!!

At least someone has some fuckin sense.

[SubmarinerAndroid]

Israeli public opinion is just about the least important and least interesting aspect of this situation.

[TIMESNIPPET]

un-subscribed!

I can' believe RealNews posted this shit - fulll of lies!

[Propagandhi900]

I can't believe how naive you are to what's happening in Israel.

Go back to watching you're FOX news, CNN, and other Pro Israeli filtered bullshit.

Open your eyes and grow the fuck up. Israel is not a perfect can-do-no-wrong child.

[Lungyao1]

uh........ bye.... I just subscribed.

[MrXfromPlanetX]

I got an email from the Real News and one of the titles was "Obama and Gaza" When I clicked on the link it said the video had been deleted by the user.

I would like to know why? Is the Real News unable to tell Obama supporters he supports this?

[Paetaor]

Mistakes? What a joke. So you bomb the babies and UN to get to the Hamas?

Inhuman comes to mind.

[rudymontes1]

un-subscribed!

I did the same thing to "Russia Today" when I found out by their own incompetence that they are another puppet/safe guard for people who turn away from western media orchestrated by the Bavarian Illuminati worldwide. The rabbit is hole is always deeper than you think.

[BMWizardofOz]

"Bavarian Illuminati"?

[rudymontes1]

Youtube "Ring of Power" that will tickle the electrons in your brain plus its extremely fun to watch.

PS: I didn't un-subscribe, but its difficult to trust any one since the brotherhood of the Knights Templar spans globally and infiltrates to gain control of 90% of the media and government. Russia is a member but its very difficult for Europeans to get bloodline knights in the government, KGB safe guards Russia from that much infiltration but they still are part of the Bavarian cult.

[joe80dman]

This professor calls this a "war". It's not a war. How could one call this a "war" with one side armed to the teeth, and the other armed with rocks? This is a bloodbath, not a war. This is state-sponsored genocide, ethnic cleansing. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. The spin on this entire ordeal is disgusting.

[truthspeaker969]

"This professor calls this a "war". It's not a war. How could one call this a "war" with one side armed to the teeth, and the other armed with rocks? This is a bloodbath, not a war. This is state-sponsored genocide, ethnic cleansing. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. The spin on this entire ordeal is disgusting."

100% agree

[principles101]

In case you haven't noticed, the Real News is very biased. Get REAL and go to other sites to get your REAL news.

[akamal1113]

The zionist israel repay its love by cursing Jesus & proudly say they kill Jesus!

Read the Talmud!

[t4705mb6]

My goodness! I had NO idea that Israel was suffering like this because of the rock throwers! People who are being terrorized & murdered by jews need to lay down their huge arsenal of fireworks & stones & simply be murdered as planned by their illegal occupiers! How DARE the Palestinians try to save their lives!? They should simply accept their fate & let the zionists crush them & their children with tanks.

Zionists are SICK!!

[usergently]

Zionist pigs have created Hamas.

[zayadnay]

i respect the realnews network for trying to get the story from both sides.. but really? how can you think that 10 dead israelies = 1200 dead palestinians ? i rest my case

[pseudolover]

what is funny is that before Israel broke the cease fire, there were hardly ANY rockets going into Israel, and they don't even know if they came from Hamas. I think you should do a story about Israeli school books, b/c they are racist. It reminds me of my country about 50 years ago.

[BMWizardofOz]

"It reminds me of my country about 50 years ago."

If you mean the USA by that, as it stands in your description, then what your country has done in Afghanistan and Iraq was not so much better in the last years.