It is deceptive wording. Assume the cash register starts out with 0 dollars. The men hand over to the man 30 dollars and the man puts it in the register. The register now has 30 dollars in it. The man takes 5 dollars out leaving 25 dollars in the register. The bellhop takes that 5 dollars, gives 1 to each man and keeps 2. So now the register has 25 dollars, each man has 1 dollar, and the bellhop has 2 dollars. 25 + 1 +1 +1 + 2= 30. It is a trick question because there is no missing dollar.
The initial payment of $30 is accounted for as the clerk takes $25, the bellhop takes $2, and the guests get a $3 refund. It adds up. After the refund has been applied, we only have to account for a payment of $27. Again, the clerk keeps $25 and the bellhop gets $2. This also adds up.There is no reason to add the $2 and $27 – the $2 is contained within the $27 already. Thus the addition is meaningless. Instead the $2 should be subtracted from the $27 to get the revised bill of $25.
thank you priceless this question is to easy if you guy listen to the question there is no flaw in math period its a simple equation the 2$ out of the the 27$ is already accounted for therefore we subtract come on kids say it w/ me s.u.b.t.r.a.c.t the 2$ from the 27$ which is the net payment if you know what that is and that will give you 25$ just what the clerk has.... so let me break it down (30-5=25 the sum of the equation} (5-2=3) (10-1=9) (9x3=27) (27-2= here it is 25 twenty five dollars
thank you priceless this question is to easy if you guy listen to the question there is no flaw in math period its a simple equation the 2$ out of the the 27$ is already accounted for therefore we subtract come on kids say it w/ me s.u.b.t.r.a.c.t the 2$ from the 27$ which is the net payment if you know what that is and that will give you 25$ just what the clerk has.... so let me break it down (30-5=25 the sum of the equation} (5-2=3) (10-1=9) (9x3=27) (27-2= here it is 25 twenty five dollars)
I think it's in the wording where it throws people. 3x9=27 then when we say plus the 2$ that is in he's pocket, by using the word plus we natually add the 2$ on to the 27$ however what we should do is subtract the 2$ from the 27$ that would then make 25$. We shouldn't be adding we should be subtracting it. I think it's a play on words!!
I know what's wrong. They paid 9 dollars each (which is 27 dollars), the Inn got 25 of those dollars. The guy who had to take the 5 dollars disount thing took two of those dollars, and the three men get back an extra dollar.
each of them paid 9 dollars. that equals 27 total. that 27 is the manager's 25 at the desk and the bellhop's 2 in his pocket. which is 27, then the other 3 dollars left are in the men's pockets as the change they got back from the bellhop. simple when you write it out.
The reason this is a fallacy is because you're treating negatives as positives.
The amount they paid should be represented as a negative value, while the amount the bellhop has should remain positive. |$2 - $27| = $25, which is exactly how much the storekeep was paid.
You could also treat everything as positives, but you'd again have to consider the proper elements. The men each have $1 ($3 in total), the bellhop has $2 and the store keep has $25, accounting for all $30.
well if you think about this way. they each pay 10 at first so thats 30 take away five because of the deal. so 25 plus the 1 dollar they each get so thats 28 plus 2 the bell hop took = $30
@17PAT17 Well, actually they paid 9.33 each with a 2 dollar tip for the bellhop. Then they were refunded a dollar each. So I'd say the "other" dollar went to the hotel in the form of three portions of around 33 cents.
@lukegllcc You're not answering the guy's question though. He's saying where did the dollar go to? It either went to the hotel, the bellhop, or the guys staying at the inn. I said it went to the hotel. Where do you say it went? Remember, they paid 30 dollars at the start, not 27.
the dollar didn't go anywhere. the problem is how the guy set's it up. he said they paid 27 and the bellhop kept 2 =29 where did the other dollar go. but the 2 the bellhop kept is included in the twenty seven they paid and he didn't mention the three they got back. so when you fix it it says that they paid 27 to the bellhop and hotel and kept 3 for themselves =30. no money goes anywhere you just have to say it correctly.
@lukegllcc Well, you can't just neglect to look at it from the perspective of his final question and make excuses. In his final question he says each guy paid 10 bucks and got 1 back, so altogether they paid 27, and the bellhop got an extra 2 bucks. So how do you account for the other dollar? That's what he's asking. You can't just fix the question because you don't like it. It's a valid question. Wouldn't you agree that the hotel has that dollar, and by its pricing should keep it?
I would agree with that if it wasn't for the fact that the two dollars the bellhop got was part of the 27 they paid. so you can't count it twice. therefore the whole question is invalid. now if we fix it we see that the 'extra dollar' is one of the three dollars that they all got back.
@lukegllcc But by his final question, that 2 dollars wasn't part of the 27 that was paid. It was part of the original 30 that was paid, but not the 27 he asks about in the final question. In the final question he tells exactly how he accounts for the money the hunters have, and for the money the bellhop has, but he doesn't account for the money the hotel has. So if you look at it from the final perspective of fixed hunter number and fixed bellhop number, the hotel number is the floaty one.
but then if the hotel has 27 and the bellhop has 2 and the hunters have 3 then that's 32 so if he asks where the missing dollar is but in how he set it up there's an extra 2 dollars not a missing 1 dollar. so that's where he failed. and he failed at adding two dollars to the equation by giving the bellhop an extra 2 dollars and then taking away the hunter's 3 dollars. so the way he asked it all of the amounts changed. so the only way to answer it is to fix the question.
@lukegllcc If you're so insistent that he asked the question in the "wrong" way, why not just say, well the answer to your "wrong" question is ["wrong" answer], and THEN suggest that the question should be changed to ["right" question] with the answer as ["right" answer]. The "wrong" question has an answer to it just as the "right" question does. Just answer the question instead of making a fuss about whether it's the "right" question to ask or not. What makes words any less valid than math?
very well I hadn't thought of that. but if you read the uploader's comments he even said that you had to fix the question before you could answer it. I suppose the wrong answer to the wrong question would be that there's 32 dollars not 29. therefore where did the extra two dollars come from. which is from counting the bellhop twice. sorry but even if you count the 27 as the hotels instead of the 25 you still have to count the men's 3 dollars and the bellhops 2.
@lukegllcc I'm too skeptical to trust the uploader's comments. Anyways, I could be wrong. Mostly because when I said the other dollar went to the hotel, I was going to add that it should be refunded to the customers, but that wouldn't be correct. I just like to argue anyway, and spread the idea that the human mind is flawed.
I like arguing too. though it sounds more mature if I call it debating rather than arguing. and of course the human mind is flawed. it's one of the rules of nature, nothing in the universe can be perfect. that's why black holes give off hawking radiation. becuase stephen hawking theorised that black holes couldn't be perfectly black, they had to give off some light. there's just so little hawking radiation that you couldn't see it without the right type of machinery.
$30 = $25 + $3 + $2. Not so hard if you just write down the numbers and not listen to the words of the riddle. All of the "actual" money is accounted for. The innkkeper has his fee of $25, the men got a refund of $3 and the bellhop stole $2. All of this equals $30. Hence: there is no missing dollar! I think the way the riddle is worded confuses the listener to confuse operations and think of the number 3 in terms of muliplication instead of how the riddle is addition and substraction.
@jv1701 The men paid 9 dollars each, and each got 3 dollars back. That equals thirty. The deception is making you add the Bellhop's money instead. The bellhop's 2 dollars has already been accounted for in the 27 that the three men paid.
Why it ends uo at $29 is because the $2 is being counted twice and the $3 is not being counted. You say they paid $27 in total but this already includes the $2 kept by the bell hop.
Why on earth would you go off like that? Have you just learned to swear and you're trying it out? Solve the problem, comment on the problem, or leave it alone. Swearing just does not help the leaning process at all.
They each paid $10 and EACH got $1 back. So EACH paid $10 - $1 = $9. And 3 x $9 = $27. Now, try to figure it from there. Calling me derogatory names instead of using logic to solve the "paradox" does not help.
hi, just wondering if there's any actual explanation as to why/how the $1 goes missing in the first place? It seems like such a mathematical flaw. I understand the "answer" (i.e. looking at it as $25 paid + $3 given back + $2 stolen = $30 so no missing $1)...but I really don't understand where the "normal" way of approaching this solution goes wrong to come $1 short ??????
The "flaw" is in the wording. They each paid $9 x 3, so $27 was paid. Of that $27, $25 went to the front desk and $2 went to the bellhop. Where is the remaining $3 ?? Why, in each hunter's pocket, since they each got $1 back. So, from $27 we add $3 to get $30, not add $2, to get $29.
The "flaw" is in the wording. They each paid $9 x 3, so $27 was paid. Of that $27, $25 went to the front desk and $2 went to the bellhop. Where is the remaining $3 ?? Why, in each hunter's pocket, since they each got $1 back. So, from $27 we add $3 to get $30, not add $2, to get $29.
Yea I know theres no missing dollar. I think this is how it goes. The 2 dollar was stolen by the bell hop, so its $28 left for the 3 men. Then they pay $25 for the room. So theres theres $3 dollars left, and they were distibuted to the 3 men for $1 each. So, therefore there are no missed dollar, just a bell hop who robbed the $2.
There is no missing dollar; there are two missing dollars stolen by the bell hop. The 3 hunters think they're really getting a great deal because they pocketed a dollar each. If they find out later that the room was $25, they are going to find out they got robbed $2. and they will know by then it was the bell hop (shame on him, ha, ha,), Solve this, what 2 coins makes .30 cents, BUT one's not a nickel. Also he who build it never used it; he who used it never saw it. What am I...Happy trails.
you counted wrong the original was 30 the bell hop stole to dollars so theirs 28 left and the 3 dollars was given back for the 3 men and they paid in total 25 theirs no missing dollar
There is no missing dollar. You are being asked to add a sub value of the total amount paid to the total amount paid!
To explain, imagine the bell boy kept $3 and gave back $2 then the men would think they had paid $28. Adding $28 to the £3 kept by the bell boy makes $31 so now there is an extra dollar. The men paid $30 then each got $1 back so they paid $27. The men have $3, the bell boy has $2 and the manager has $25 = £30.
You added the 2 dollars the bell hop stole when you should of -2 dollars because its stollen.. if you minus 3 dollars you give back you have to minus the 2 dollars he stole there for you don't add it to what they had..because its GONE!! dopes!!!
I think i got it! If m = the three men and b = the dollar bell hop : m*10 = 30-5 = 25+b = 27+m = 30. The men originally payed $30 and then the rooms were $25. When the bell hop stole $2 the rooms became $27 and the $3 dollars missing is the money the hunters got back. This wouldn't be as hard if you didn't tell the story how you did. Thanks for the riddle!
you count wrong when you review cause they need to pay $9.33 and so on each
so 9.33 times 3 is rounded of 28 dollars plus the 2 dollar of the bellhop makes 30 its just a not well presented review of the situation but it sound logic because you can also say when the give that one dollar back again so when the pay 10 bucks each again the bellboy has 2 dollars to much cause 10 times 3 is 30 plus the 2 dollar tip of the bellboy
k i think i got it...... the 2 dollars the bellhop took made the price of the room increase from $25 to $27 and the $3 that is the difference between 27 and 30 are the $3 that the hunters got back. is that right or is that wrong.
the 2 dollars the bellhop took made the price of the room increase from $25 to $27 and the $3 that is the difference between 27 and 30 are the $3 that the hunters got back
x - money paid by the clients, y - money received by the manager. Firstly, x=30, y=30. After the clients received 1$ refund each x=27, y=25 as the bellhop took $2 for himself. No contradiction))
To antixcorporation. the guys paid 10 dollars then got a dollar back each therefore they paid 9 dollars each because 10-1 is 9. 9*3 is 27 not 28. you didnt do your math correct.
At the end of everything, each of the three guys had 1 dollar each making that total 3 dollars. The bellhop had 2 dollars at the end of it, and the hotel had 25 dollars. 2+3+25=30 dollars....shabam
the only person that would think the 27 is gone is the three men, because they just got a dollar each back, so 30-3 equals 27. but the bellhop also kept 2 dollars which is 27-2. which is 25
Each man paid $9. Total $27. the bellhop got $2 and the inn got $25. to solve, you have to get the number 30 out of your head, it is no longer relevant.
ight here it is. they payed all together $30 but they were over charged by $5 so the bell hop gave back $3 which is all together $28 and he has $2 which make $30 all together. here is the math-
they payed $30, and they were over charged by $5 so thats means $30-$5=$25, then the bell hop gave back $3 and kept $2 so that means $25+$3=$28 plus the bell hop's money of the $2 equals $30
here it is again $30-$5=$25, $25+$3=$28, $28+$2=$30 (therefore there is no money missing)
you can't say "they paid 9 dollars and the bellhop has 2 dollars." The 9 dollars they each paid (27 total) is INCLUDED in what the bellhop has since he took the money from the clerk, who took it from them. Then after the 27 dollars that they paid the other 3 is in their pockets because they got it back.
You've asked the question incorrectly...Yes they each paid $9 and yes 3 x $9 is $27...However here is where you go wrong...the $2 the bellhop kept is included in that $27 it is the 26th and 27th dollar...they each got $1 back $27 + $3 (the $3 they got back) = 30 dollars!!
Dude Listen to the video again...I already solved it!! The $2 dollars the Bellhop kept IS NOT included in the $27. As I stated before, the clerk lied and the true price of the "special" was $24 per night. Men Paid $30 (each got back $1 = $27 total), bellhop kept $2, Clerk has the final $1....Period!!!!!!!!
This is sort of easy if you think about it. The answer is.... the clerk lied and kept a dollar for himself and the refund was actually $6. How? 9x3 = $27 (refunded) + $2 (Bellhop)= $29. So logically speaking, the real "special" price was $24 per night. Now, everyone can relax cause the problem is solved.
Its not even about the 1 dollar the question is how long has the bellhop been getting away with all this money hes been stealing from ppl the scummy b*stard!
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To add the $2 to the total of $27 to come up with $29 is fallacious because the $2 is included in the total outlay from each guy. You cant say they each only paid $9 but ALSO gave the bellhop the $2 tip (he took it rather than was tipped but this is irrelevant). The hotel refunds them $3, and gives $2 to the bellhop. The hotel in this case keeps $25, $2 goes to the bellhop, and $3 back into the patrons pockets. The $27 expense is allocated as, $25 to the hotel and $2 to the bellhop
THE OTHER DOLLAR IS NOT PART OF SAME QUESTION, 3 x 9 is 27, your right, but it was 25 all together. therefore they get one pound back each and the other two, he keeps! ! !
Two men are sitting on a bench. Another man walks by. One man turns to the other and says" Brothers and Sisters I have none. but that mans father is my fathers son." Who's is he identifying?
There's no algebra needed here...just think logically.
Bellhop obviously has 2
Cashier has 25 (after giving 5 back)
The men have a total of 3 dollars
The men paid 27 dollars. The bellhop has 2 of that, and the cashier has 25. Simple as that.
He tries to confuse you by having you add the 27 that the men paid to the 2 that the bellhop has, when you should actually be subtracting that to result in 25, the amount the cashier has.
this is really good but u cant look at it tht way...ur confusing us with the way u ask the question...cuz tho point is the guy got 25 dollars from the original 30 the bellboy took 2 and gave 1 each to the persons. 25+3+2 is 30...
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There is no other dollar. The cost was 25 dollars and they over paid by 2 dollars. You're a loser you got this from "Brain Building" Marilyn vos Savant, u just changed it a little bit. Why don't you go shove that missing dollar up your ass, oh wait there is none guess you're going to have to use your finger instead.
What on earth are you on about? I have known this puzzle since 1968, when I first heard it at University. As for your other comments, I guess we have to consider the source. Please feel free to comment on the Mathematics or the video, but profanity is not on. Clean up your act!
Wtf is your problem? Just because you couldn't solve it, doesn't make someone you don't even know a loser. Who in the the world told you to come look/post on this video anyway?
The dollar didn't go no where because you confused us wit all the numbers. if the hotel manger keeps $25 for the stay with $5 left over that he gives the bell boy. the bell boy keeps $2 and returns $3 each getting $1. if you add $25(for the stay) + $2(for the bell boy) + $3(each person gets $1)= $30
well. the $3 will be subtracted from the $30 and the $2 remaining from the $5 should be subtracted as well not added to 27?! this way we will get $25 dollars, which is the amount payed.. but in the question the $2 of the negative is added (made like positive) which is the trick.
Yeah, they paid $9.00 each + $0.66 each to the bellhop without their knowledge. That's only from their point of view: $9.00 each, and the bellhop's point of view: $2.00. From the perception of the omniscient observer there is still $25.00 in the register, $2.00 in the bellhop's pocket and $3.00 distributed among the hunters in the hotel room doing them almost no good at today's inflationary rate. Remember when $30.00 would get you a hotel room?
Each man actually paid $9.3333333 and not just $9 so $9.333333333 x 3 = $28 plus the $ 2 dollars the bell boy kept equals to $30.00. Pretty simple math.
3 dollars change, 2 dollars to the bell hop, 25 at the desk.
Dkmac44 1 week ago
its been stolen!!
SK8DK1999 5 months ago
It is deceptive wording. Assume the cash register starts out with 0 dollars. The men hand over to the man 30 dollars and the man puts it in the register. The register now has 30 dollars in it. The man takes 5 dollars out leaving 25 dollars in the register. The bellhop takes that 5 dollars, gives 1 to each man and keeps 2. So now the register has 25 dollars, each man has 1 dollar, and the bellhop has 2 dollars. 25 + 1 +1 +1 + 2= 30. It is a trick question because there is no missing dollar.
inmotion86 8 months ago
This is very simple. They each paid $9.33 as $25/3 is $8.33. Since they each got a dollar back they each paid $9.33.
MilahCire 11 months ago
The initial payment of $30 is accounted for as the clerk takes $25, the bellhop takes $2, and the guests get a $3 refund. It adds up. After the refund has been applied, we only have to account for a payment of $27. Again, the clerk keeps $25 and the bellhop gets $2. This also adds up.There is no reason to add the $2 and $27 – the $2 is contained within the $27 already. Thus the addition is meaningless. Instead the $2 should be subtracted from the $27 to get the revised bill of $25.
Stanaford 1 year ago 5
thank you priceless this question is to easy if you guy listen to the question there is no flaw in math period its a simple equation the 2$ out of the the 27$ is already accounted for therefore we subtract come on kids say it w/ me s.u.b.t.r.a.c.t the 2$ from the 27$ which is the net payment if you know what that is and that will give you 25$ just what the clerk has.... so let me break it down (30-5=25 the sum of the equation} (5-2=3) (10-1=9) (9x3=27) (27-2= here it is 25 twenty five dollars
jeffreygmichael 1 year ago
thank you priceless this question is to easy if you guy listen to the question there is no flaw in math period its a simple equation the 2$ out of the the 27$ is already accounted for therefore we subtract come on kids say it w/ me s.u.b.t.r.a.c.t the 2$ from the 27$ which is the net payment if you know what that is and that will give you 25$ just what the clerk has.... so let me break it down (30-5=25 the sum of the equation} (5-2=3) (10-1=9) (9x3=27) (27-2= here it is 25 twenty five dollars)
jeffreygmichael 1 year ago
Its because it shouldnt be add up to 29. It should be 27 - 2 ! not plus 2! So altogether they pay 25 dollars with 2 dollars in the your pocket :)
PrlceL3ss 1 year ago
Room now cost $25 (30-5=25). They got back $3=$28. Plus $2=$30
s02020202 1 year ago
I think it's in the wording where it throws people. 3x9=27 then when we say plus the 2$ that is in he's pocket, by using the word plus we natually add the 2$ on to the 27$ however what we should do is subtract the 2$ from the 27$ that would then make 25$. We shouldn't be adding we should be subtracting it. I think it's a play on words!!
ODanboy 1 year ago
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s02020202 1 year ago
he kept 2$ in his pocket and gave 2$ away (1$ each) and forgot about the last one.... probably put it in his pocket or ate it or something
smikesmike05 1 year ago
I know what's wrong. They paid 9 dollars each (which is 27 dollars), the Inn got 25 of those dollars. The guy who had to take the 5 dollars disount thing took two of those dollars, and the three men get back an extra dollar.
5mart2n 1 year ago
each of them paid 9 dollars. that equals 27 total. that 27 is the manager's 25 at the desk and the bellhop's 2 in his pocket. which is 27, then the other 3 dollars left are in the men's pockets as the change they got back from the bellhop. simple when you write it out.
lukegllcc 1 year ago
always follow BODMAS rule
andrabunge 1 year ago
the dollar is never missing. yes they all payed 9 dollars. when they get
SuperVidal10 1 year ago
The reason this is a fallacy is because you're treating negatives as positives.
The amount they paid should be represented as a negative value, while the amount the bellhop has should remain positive. |$2 - $27| = $25, which is exactly how much the storekeep was paid.
You could also treat everything as positives, but you'd again have to consider the proper elements. The men each have $1 ($3 in total), the bellhop has $2 and the store keep has $25, accounting for all $30.
Haelstrome 1 year ago
the bellhop is crooked!
bigvolnutz 1 year ago
the trick is tow subtract the bellhops 2$ not add the to the 27$ to get to 25$ the new price
soodyz143 1 year ago
well if you think about this way. they each pay 10 at first so thats 30 take away five because of the deal. so 25 plus the 1 dollar they each get so thats 28 plus 2 the bell hop took = $30
mjsalute 1 year ago
i took it hehe
mjsalute 1 year ago
it math, working backwords is the key
saying they payed $27 is wrong... the truth is they payed $25
30 (is what they originally paid) - 5 ( they got back) = $25
25/3 = 8.33 each.
17PAT17 1 year ago
@17PAT17 Well, actually they paid 9.33 each with a 2 dollar tip for the bellhop. Then they were refunded a dollar each. So I'd say the "other" dollar went to the hotel in the form of three portions of around 33 cents.
theboombody 1 year ago
@theboombody
you're wrong. there is no cents. it's all solid dollars. no portions.
lukegllcc 1 year ago
@lukegllcc For the special, it's 25 bucks for three people. Can 25 be divided evenly between three people without going to portions?
theboombody 1 year ago
@theboombody
no but they didn't pay 25 dollars they paid 27. the front desk got 25 the bellhop got 2 and they each got a dollar back. 25+2+1+1+1=30
lukegllcc 1 year ago
@lukegllcc You're not answering the guy's question though. He's saying where did the dollar go to? It either went to the hotel, the bellhop, or the guys staying at the inn. I said it went to the hotel. Where do you say it went? Remember, they paid 30 dollars at the start, not 27.
theboombody 1 year ago
@theboombody
the dollar didn't go anywhere. the problem is how the guy set's it up. he said they paid 27 and the bellhop kept 2 =29 where did the other dollar go. but the 2 the bellhop kept is included in the twenty seven they paid and he didn't mention the three they got back. so when you fix it it says that they paid 27 to the bellhop and hotel and kept 3 for themselves =30. no money goes anywhere you just have to say it correctly.
lukegllcc 1 year ago
@lukegllcc Well, you can't just neglect to look at it from the perspective of his final question and make excuses. In his final question he says each guy paid 10 bucks and got 1 back, so altogether they paid 27, and the bellhop got an extra 2 bucks. So how do you account for the other dollar? That's what he's asking. You can't just fix the question because you don't like it. It's a valid question. Wouldn't you agree that the hotel has that dollar, and by its pricing should keep it?
theboombody 1 year ago
@theboombody
I would agree with that if it wasn't for the fact that the two dollars the bellhop got was part of the 27 they paid. so you can't count it twice. therefore the whole question is invalid. now if we fix it we see that the 'extra dollar' is one of the three dollars that they all got back.
lukegllcc 1 year ago
@lukegllcc But by his final question, that 2 dollars wasn't part of the 27 that was paid. It was part of the original 30 that was paid, but not the 27 he asks about in the final question. In the final question he tells exactly how he accounts for the money the hunters have, and for the money the bellhop has, but he doesn't account for the money the hotel has. So if you look at it from the final perspective of fixed hunter number and fixed bellhop number, the hotel number is the floaty one.
theboombody 1 year ago
@theboombody
but then if the hotel has 27 and the bellhop has 2 and the hunters have 3 then that's 32 so if he asks where the missing dollar is but in how he set it up there's an extra 2 dollars not a missing 1 dollar. so that's where he failed. and he failed at adding two dollars to the equation by giving the bellhop an extra 2 dollars and then taking away the hunter's 3 dollars. so the way he asked it all of the amounts changed. so the only way to answer it is to fix the question.
lukegllcc 1 year ago
@lukegllcc If you're so insistent that he asked the question in the "wrong" way, why not just say, well the answer to your "wrong" question is ["wrong" answer], and THEN suggest that the question should be changed to ["right" question] with the answer as ["right" answer]. The "wrong" question has an answer to it just as the "right" question does. Just answer the question instead of making a fuss about whether it's the "right" question to ask or not. What makes words any less valid than math?
theboombody 1 year ago
@theboombody
very well I hadn't thought of that. but if you read the uploader's comments he even said that you had to fix the question before you could answer it. I suppose the wrong answer to the wrong question would be that there's 32 dollars not 29. therefore where did the extra two dollars come from. which is from counting the bellhop twice. sorry but even if you count the 27 as the hotels instead of the 25 you still have to count the men's 3 dollars and the bellhops 2.
lukegllcc 1 year ago
@lukegllcc I'm too skeptical to trust the uploader's comments. Anyways, I could be wrong. Mostly because when I said the other dollar went to the hotel, I was going to add that it should be refunded to the customers, but that wouldn't be correct. I just like to argue anyway, and spread the idea that the human mind is flawed.
theboombody 1 year ago
@theboombody
I like arguing too. though it sounds more mature if I call it debating rather than arguing. and of course the human mind is flawed. it's one of the rules of nature, nothing in the universe can be perfect. that's why black holes give off hawking radiation. becuase stephen hawking theorised that black holes couldn't be perfectly black, they had to give off some light. there's just so little hawking radiation that you couldn't see it without the right type of machinery.
lukegllcc 1 year ago
@lukegllcc I like the term arguing because it sounds more aggressive.
theboombody 1 year ago
@theboombody
haha nice.
lukegllcc 1 year ago
@17PAT17
you didn't even do your math right.
lukegllcc 1 year ago
Lmao, I solved it the way u did but no one believed me.
They said that I was wrong =.=
DarigonKogi 2 years ago
each man paid 8.66, a missing 1/3 of a dollar x 3 equals the missing dollar, they actually paid 8.66had the bell hop not kept the two,
ekim051084 2 years ago
But the bellhop kept the $2. So they each paid $9 ($10 - $1= $9). Three nines are $27, and hmmmm, the bellhop has $2, and hmmm....
minkusbc 2 years ago
@minkusbc
$30 = $25 + $3 + $2. Not so hard if you just write down the numbers and not listen to the words of the riddle. All of the "actual" money is accounted for. The innkkeper has his fee of $25, the men got a refund of $3 and the bellhop stole $2. All of this equals $30. Hence: there is no missing dollar! I think the way the riddle is worded confuses the listener to confuse operations and think of the number 3 in terms of muliplication instead of how the riddle is addition and substraction.
jv1701 1 year ago
@jv1701 The men paid 9 dollars each, and each got 3 dollars back. That equals thirty. The deception is making you add the Bellhop's money instead. The bellhop's 2 dollars has already been accounted for in the 27 that the three men paid.
philnoll 1 year ago 3
Darn, I wanted to put this problem online! You already did. I got to find another one...
TyYann 2 years ago
Why it ends uo at $29 is because the $2 is being counted twice and the $3 is not being counted. You say they paid $27 in total but this already includes the $2 kept by the bell hop.
zyzzyzus 2 years ago
You got it! Perfect, short , explanation too!
minkusbc 2 years ago
Why on earth would you go off like that? Have you just learned to swear and you're trying it out? Solve the problem, comment on the problem, or leave it alone. Swearing just does not help the leaning process at all.
minkusbc 2 years ago
oh ok do you know any other cool tricky things like that?
Bizz916 2 years ago
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it's (2x9)+8
not 3x9..
they didn't all pay the same amount dickhead!
andy1627blink182 2 years ago
They each paid $10 and EACH got $1 back. So EACH paid $10 - $1 = $9. And 3 x $9 = $27. Now, try to figure it from there. Calling me derogatory names instead of using logic to solve the "paradox" does not help.
minkusbc 2 years ago
hi, just wondering if there's any actual explanation as to why/how the $1 goes missing in the first place? It seems like such a mathematical flaw. I understand the "answer" (i.e. looking at it as $25 paid + $3 given back + $2 stolen = $30 so no missing $1)...but I really don't understand where the "normal" way of approaching this solution goes wrong to come $1 short ??????
Thanks
jmaer91 2 years ago
The "flaw" is in the wording. They each paid $9 x 3, so $27 was paid. Of that $27, $25 went to the front desk and $2 went to the bellhop. Where is the remaining $3 ?? Why, in each hunter's pocket, since they each got $1 back. So, from $27 we add $3 to get $30, not add $2, to get $29.
minkusbc 2 years ago
so pretty much our mathematical system has some flaws? or we can jus say it in a way that doesnt make sense?
Bizz916 2 years ago
You're correct, it is in the "wording". Math is not flawed, I just was messing with your mind!!
minkusbc 2 years ago
wow looks hard,seruiusly kewl :D
JustShotsForMeh 2 years ago
@minkusbc I don't know. I think math could definitely have some flaws somewhere. See my video "Can Something Be Twice As Big As Itself?"
theboombody 1 year ago
@Bizz916 Well, some math is flawed, but this question is not. The other dollar is in the hands of the hotel where it belongs.
theboombody 1 year ago
can you explain that abit more? i think your right just explain it again in mroe detail
ryanc4992 2 years ago
The "flaw" is in the wording. They each paid $9 x 3, so $27 was paid. Of that $27, $25 went to the front desk and $2 went to the bellhop. Where is the remaining $3 ?? Why, in each hunter's pocket, since they each got $1 back. So, from $27 we add $3 to get $30, not add $2, to get $29.
minkusbc 2 years ago
@minkusbc
just scrolled down and realized my post up top said something similar; sorry. LOL
jv1701 1 year ago
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andy1627blink182 2 years ago
i'l give u a dollar to never surface again
Playgear 2 years ago
should'v used it to get a new haircut
Playgear 2 years ago
you ate it thats where it went
Playgear 2 years ago
thats a good one to tell people, it's easy to remember and sort of like a magic trick
gncc1 2 years ago
Yea I know theres no missing dollar. I think this is how it goes. The 2 dollar was stolen by the bell hop, so its $28 left for the 3 men. Then they pay $25 for the room. So theres theres $3 dollars left, and they were distibuted to the 3 men for $1 each. So, therefore there are no missed dollar, just a bell hop who robbed the $2.
hulkyou1234 2 years ago
Who knew that one dollar would be so famous
Taicombine 2 years ago
you dont subtract, u add so its 30
poptheman1 2 years ago
There is no missing dollar; there are two missing dollars stolen by the bell hop. The 3 hunters think they're really getting a great deal because they pocketed a dollar each. If they find out later that the room was $25, they are going to find out they got robbed $2. and they will know by then it was the bell hop (shame on him, ha, ha,), Solve this, what 2 coins makes .30 cents, BUT one's not a nickel. Also he who build it never used it; he who used it never saw it. What am I...Happy trails.
Xkalebre 2 years ago
i know that riddle! if one's not a nickel, the other ones a nickel and this one is a quarter =[)
DClawsPwnage 2 years ago
you counted wrong the original was 30 the bell hop stole to dollars so theirs 28 left and the 3 dollars was given back for the 3 men and they paid in total 25 theirs no missing dollar
SuperKurt11 2 years ago
There is no missing dollar. You are being asked to add a sub value of the total amount paid to the total amount paid!
To explain, imagine the bell boy kept $3 and gave back $2 then the men would think they had paid $28. Adding $28 to the £3 kept by the bell boy makes $31 so now there is an extra dollar. The men paid $30 then each got $1 back so they paid $27. The men have $3, the bell boy has $2 and the manager has $25 = £30.
justaviewer123 2 years ago
easy.
OBVIOUSLY, the bellhop was psycho. He thought he took 2 dollars but actually he took 3. pffffff. idiots.
DIABLOKING248 2 years ago
You added the 2 dollars the bell hop stole when you should of -2 dollars because its stollen.. if you minus 3 dollars you give back you have to minus the 2 dollars he stole there for you don't add it to what they had..because its GONE!! dopes!!!
djcaz22 2 years ago
lol
Weregoins 2 years ago
The answer is quite obvious: the other dollar CLEARLY went into the vending machine to buy a SNICKERS BAR. Too easy.
cooperzee 2 years ago
lol u dont add the 2 the bell hop stole to the 27, u take it away then add the 5 he originally was meant to give.
x2keithm3x 2 years ago
I think i got it! If m = the three men and b = the dollar bell hop : m*10 = 30-5 = 25+b = 27+m = 30. The men originally payed $30 and then the rooms were $25. When the bell hop stole $2 the rooms became $27 and the $3 dollars missing is the money the hunters got back. This wouldn't be as hard if you didn't tell the story how you did. Thanks for the riddle!
IntelligentSince1995 2 years ago
man at the front desk charged $25
bell hop kept $2
gave back $3
front desk+bell hop+money given back= $30
25+2+3=30
dennis12533 2 years ago
easy.. you counted rong.
they each pay $9 thats $27
the bell hop stole $2 so thats $25 the price of the three rooms.
gizmoguyar 2 years ago 2
You're almost there! There originally was $30, you have accounted for $27. So where is the other $3 ?
minkusbc 2 years ago
in the hunters pockets
gizmoguyar 2 years ago
rickaap you are an idiot spencinator23 got it right i have heard this one before once when i was like 5 and i got it right then
chiporama 2 years ago
you count wrong when you review cause they need to pay $9.33 and so on each
so 9.33 times 3 is rounded of 28 dollars plus the 2 dollar of the bellhop makes 30 its just a not well presented review of the situation but it sound logic because you can also say when the give that one dollar back again so when the pay 10 bucks each again the bellboy has 2 dollars to much cause 10 times 3 is 30 plus the 2 dollar tip of the bellboy
rickaap 2 years ago
k i think i got it...... the 2 dollars the bellhop took made the price of the room increase from $25 to $27 and the $3 that is the difference between 27 and 30 are the $3 that the hunters got back. is that right or is that wrong.
spencinator23 2 years ago
the 2 dollars the bellhop took made the price of the room increase from $25 to $27 and the $3 that is the difference between 27 and 30 are the $3 that the hunters got back
:)
skyromo 2 years ago
You got it!!! : )
minkusbc 2 years ago
bell hop has it
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h4rdstyl3r1337 2 years ago
Nope, sorry, you haven't solved it yet!
minkusbc 2 years ago
this is so stupid its 28 $ NOT 27 FFS
h4rdstyl3r1337 2 years ago
What is your reasoning. If it is $28, then where did the other $2 go?
minkusbc 2 years ago
haha im terrible at math im not even gona try to figure this out! but its really kewl!!!
xoxoxo1996 2 years ago
this is a hard one but you have to subtract.
original is $30, subtract 3 from the money save from the three of them, and subtract 2 from the kaniving bellhop which=$25.00!
KolydoscopeMusic 2 years ago
awesome
ihearttwilight54 2 years ago
x - money paid by the clients, y - money received by the manager. Firstly, x=30, y=30. After the clients received 1$ refund each x=27, y=25 as the bellhop took $2 for himself. No contradiction))
MrTakeAshot1 2 years ago
$25(payment) + $2(the dude) + $3 (the 3 other ppl)
hence,they paid $28, not $27
artixcorporation 2 years ago
To antixcorporation. the guys paid 10 dollars then got a dollar back each therefore they paid 9 dollars each because 10-1 is 9. 9*3 is 27 not 28. you didnt do your math correct.
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Awsomeness42 2 years ago
At the end of everything, each of the three guys had 1 dollar each making that total 3 dollars. The bellhop had 2 dollars at the end of it, and the hotel had 25 dollars. 2+3+25=30 dollars....shabam
ownageinabaggg 2 years ago
the price was 25
so they al paid 25/3 = 8,33
then they all get an extra dollar so they all paid 9,33 ;) 9,33 times 3 = 28
+the 2 of the bellhop = 30 easy (A)
PleeDuck 2 years ago
this is on ericsurf 6
mrsabres 2 years ago
wow.. I have no idea...
Bubblicious43 2 years ago
The common mistake made here is when we add instead of subtract. The answer is this:
$30(original price without special offer)
-3 (money back in hunters pocket)
=27
-2 (money in bellhops pocket)
=25 ( money spent at the inn)
So in short: 30-3=27-2=25. This is the answer.
What do you think minkusbc?
seansk8erandrider 2 years ago
You got it! The confusion comes with the way I worded it, which of course, what it was intended to do. Well done.
minkusbc 2 years ago
Thanks a lot for your fine riddling. What did I win? xD
seansk8erandrider 2 years ago
there is $25 at the front desk
there is $2 in the bellhops pocket
there is $3 with the men
25+3+2=$30!!!!!
whazzap17 2 years ago
You got it!
minkusbc 2 years ago
The wife took it. lool
seansk8erandrider 2 years ago
the only person that would think the 27 is gone is the three men, because they just got a dollar each back, so 30-3 equals 27. but the bellhop also kept 2 dollars which is 27-2. which is 25
Devlin306 2 years ago
Each man paid $9. Total $27. the bellhop got $2 and the inn got $25. to solve, you have to get the number 30 out of your head, it is no longer relevant.
shfahfafh 2 years ago
It still is relevant. You are almost there. Now you have figured out where $27 has gone, where is the other THREE dollars?
minkusbc 2 years ago
the other three dollars is payed back to the 3 guys!
k1ller2one 2 years ago
oh hahaha i remember my math teacher gave us this same question and i never was able to figure it out lol.
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burtonboy044 2 years ago
ight here it is. they payed all together $30 but they were over charged by $5 so the bell hop gave back $3 which is all together $28 and he has $2 which make $30 all together. here is the math-
they payed $30, and they were over charged by $5 so thats means $30-$5=$25, then the bell hop gave back $3 and kept $2 so that means $25+$3=$28 plus the bell hop's money of the $2 equals $30
here it is again $30-$5=$25, $25+$3=$28, $28+$2=$30 (therefore there is no money missing)
alaskanaman 2 years ago
rite... there is no money missing.. just a trick of confusing the people..
pqrstsma2011 2 years ago
basiclly like he said he made a slight add change he said they payed 10 ea then $1 back so ea payed $9 9x3=27 plus 2 =29 which confuses ppl
Spacbloxxer 2 years ago
i like it but i looked at the other coments because i was to lazy to figure it out on my own
FenderGuitar97 2 years ago
where is this hotel?
10 dollars a night is cheap.
dubccatz 2 years ago
you can't say "they paid 9 dollars and the bellhop has 2 dollars." The 9 dollars they each paid (27 total) is INCLUDED in what the bellhop has since he took the money from the clerk, who took it from them. Then after the 27 dollars that they paid the other 3 is in their pockets because they got it back.
dca843 2 years ago
You got it!! Well done.
minkusbc 2 years ago
I think cherrypopman , below, answered it 3 weeks ago.
mrmts 2 years ago
You've asked the question incorrectly...Yes they each paid $9 and yes 3 x $9 is $27...However here is where you go wrong...the $2 the bellhop kept is included in that $27 it is the 26th and 27th dollar...they each got $1 back $27 + $3 (the $3 they got back) = 30 dollars!!
Mo3es 3 years ago 3
Dude Listen to the video again...I already solved it!! The $2 dollars the Bellhop kept IS NOT included in the $27. As I stated before, the clerk lied and the true price of the "special" was $24 per night. Men Paid $30 (each got back $1 = $27 total), bellhop kept $2, Clerk has the final $1....Period!!!!!!!!
naluvs0101 3 years ago
This is sort of easy if you think about it. The answer is.... the clerk lied and kept a dollar for himself and the refund was actually $6. How? 9x3 = $27 (refunded) + $2 (Bellhop)= $29. So logically speaking, the real "special" price was $24 per night. Now, everyone can relax cause the problem is solved.
naluvs0101 3 years ago
this is the wrong way to ask the question. another way to look at it is:
$27 has been payed
hotel has $25 of it
bellhop has $2 of it
cherrypopman 3 years ago
Its not even about the 1 dollar the question is how long has the bellhop been getting away with all this money hes been stealing from ppl the scummy b*stard!
JWalshProductions 3 years ago
LOL
exce11er 3 years ago
It's not where did the other dollar go, it's where did the other 3 go. The 27$ is 25 hotel 2 bellhop. The remaining 3 are in their pockets.
EvanAsper8 3 years ago 2
they paid 25 dollars. the bellhop was given 5 dollars. 1+1+1 for the three guests and 2 dollars for the bellhop. 25+3+2=30
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mysugarisraw 3 years ago
To add the $2 to the total of $27 to come up with $29 is fallacious because the $2 is included in the total outlay from each guy. You cant say they each only paid $9 but ALSO gave the bellhop the $2 tip (he took it rather than was tipped but this is irrelevant). The hotel refunds them $3, and gives $2 to the bellhop. The hotel in this case keeps $25, $2 goes to the bellhop, and $3 back into the patrons pockets. The $27 expense is allocated as, $25 to the hotel and $2 to the bellhop
love2climb916 3 years ago
when you multiply the 9x9x9 to equal 27, you then subtract (not add) the 2 dollars that went to the bellhop to arrive at the $25 that the hotel has
goodmanMD520 3 years ago
9x9x9 is most deffinately NOT 27 it is more like 729! Where did you go to school!
Mo3es 3 years ago
=30 of amount - 3 reimbursementpaid= 27
27-2(of what bellhop has)
=25 cost of room
beaboyy 3 years ago
but it dosnt make sense if u multiply it
slivlc2 3 years ago
OH i got it, the inn has 25, the bellhop has 2, n the three guys each have 1
am i correct?
Govanator3000 3 years ago
Super! You got it!
minkusbc 3 years ago
Math SUCKS! Ill never get my g.e.d.
scottndawn 3 years ago
Don't get it. Room is $30. Bell boy nabs $2, That's $28 in play. $3 back to the guys and you've got $25. Very weird question. What dollar?
mrharryotto 3 years ago
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djtranscent 3 years ago
You got it Pedro!!
minkusbc 3 years ago
why is he blue ? smurfitis /
bobbob808808 3 years ago
LMAO i love how unrelated this is to the video
aNdr3W01 3 years ago
Can't be done with Multiplication.
Add and subtract only
I have one
Two men are sitting on a bench. Another man walks by. One man turns to the other and says" Brothers and Sisters I have none. but that mans father is my fathers son." Who's is he identifying?
metaphoreman 3 years ago
Himself! :) and his son just walked by.
trixx85 3 years ago
Woah I fell for it haha!
The comments explained it but yep I fell right into it!
wootzone 3 years ago
it disapeared!!!
xxcutie22 3 years ago
There's no algebra needed here...just think logically.
Bellhop obviously has 2
Cashier has 25 (after giving 5 back)
The men have a total of 3 dollars
The men paid 27 dollars. The bellhop has 2 of that, and the cashier has 25. Simple as that.
He tries to confuse you by having you add the 27 that the men paid to the 2 that the bellhop has, when you should actually be subtracting that to result in 25, the amount the cashier has.
n00neimp0rtant 3 years ago
Wonderful! Great logic, you cut through the baffle gab and solved it!
minkusbc 3 years ago
oh my goodness.smooth seven must be hated in his life
iviep08 3 years ago
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fantraption 3 years ago
this is really good but u cant look at it tht way...ur confusing us with the way u ask the question...cuz tho point is the guy got 25 dollars from the original 30 the bellboy took 2 and gave 1 each to the persons. 25+3+2 is 30...
bach1r10452 3 years ago
algebraical
3x = 30 (10fee each)
3x-5 = 25(5 taken off price)
3x-5 +3 = 28 (one dollar each given back)
3x-2 = 28
3x = 30 (2 dollars given to bellend)
the mistake is thinking
3x = 25 (taking away the 5)
3x + 3 = 28(adding the 1 each)
3x +5 = 30 (giving 2 to the bellend)
moe210333 3 years ago
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There is no other dollar. The cost was 25 dollars and they over paid by 2 dollars. You're a loser you got this from "Brain Building" Marilyn vos Savant, u just changed it a little bit. Why don't you go shove that missing dollar up your ass, oh wait there is none guess you're going to have to use your finger instead.
smooth7 3 years ago
What on earth are you on about? I have known this puzzle since 1968, when I first heard it at University. As for your other comments, I guess we have to consider the source. Please feel free to comment on the Mathematics or the video, but profanity is not on. Clean up your act!
minkusbc 3 years ago
Wtf is your problem? Just because you couldn't solve it, doesn't make someone you don't even know a loser. Who in the the world told you to come look/post on this video anyway?
biggieshot2pac 3 years ago
in the pocket of g.w. , of course, as usual.
danutpopescu 3 years ago
This is great, I have a whole room of people arguing over this.
skymonkey81 3 years ago 3
lol, it's all in the wording, but it is difficult to discover where!
jasonguyperson 3 years ago
The dollar didn't go no where because you confused us wit all the numbers. if the hotel manger keeps $25 for the stay with $5 left over that he gives the bell boy. the bell boy keeps $2 and returns $3 each getting $1. if you add $25(for the stay) + $2(for the bell boy) + $3(each person gets $1)= $30
bamrahmunda 3 years ago
30 = 25 + 3 + 2
30 - 3 = 25 + 2
30 - 3 + 2 = 25 this is wrong!(the question!)
30 - 3 - 2 = 25 this is correct one
well. the $3 will be subtracted from the $30 and the $2 remaining from the $5 should be subtracted as well not added to 27?! this way we will get $25 dollars, which is the amount payed.. but in the question the $2 of the negative is added (made like positive) which is the trick.
YTHaters 3 years ago
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mrRona53 3 years ago
Yeah, they paid $9.00 each + $0.66 each to the bellhop without their knowledge. That's only from their point of view: $9.00 each, and the bellhop's point of view: $2.00. From the perception of the omniscient observer there is still $25.00 in the register, $2.00 in the bellhop's pocket and $3.00 distributed among the hunters in the hotel room doing them almost no good at today's inflationary rate. Remember when $30.00 would get you a hotel room?
billbobiguns 3 years ago
algebraical
3x = 30 (10fee each)
3x-5 = 25(5 taken off price)
3x-5 +3 = 28 (one dollar each given back)
3x-2 = 28
3x = 30 (2 dollars given to bellend)
the mistake is thinking
3x = 25 (taking away the 5)
3x + 3 = 28(adding the 1 each)
3x +5 = 30 (giving 2 to the bellend)
jimbomcjim77 3 years ago
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8av8today 3 years ago 3
lol
WTFPS3RULZLOL 3 years ago
Lame...
crapsh1t 3 years ago
That's easy!
The dollar went to a tittie bar in Orlando.
RexNunc 3 years ago
They Each pay 10 x3 = 30 bell hope takes 2= 28 gives the men each $1. 25 goes to the hotel problem solved. Check my vid.
BreakALegProductions 3 years ago
its wrong math ( i thought about this for a while)
its the $25 in the cash regester the three dollars that the three men got back (total of $28) and the $2 in the bellhops pocket(total of $30)
good one!
friedcube 3 years ago
Each man actually paid $9.3333333 and not just $9 so $9.333333333 x 3 = $28 plus the $ 2 dollars the bell boy kept equals to $30.00. Pretty simple math.
anteralb 3 years ago
its kinda late rite now wen im viewing this, so i can prob figure it out, but i am tired lmao, how about they let them sleep in th