Great craftsmanship! If it works on a 9v battery, it might seem kinda silly, but you can get very small, very light hand crank generators like you find on flashlights and radios that can do 5-12v at considerable current. No risk of the battery dying on you then.
One easy improvement: you might want to use two AA batteries and a DC converter to convert the voltage to 12V. AA batteries have a higher energy density than 9V batteries, are cheaper, and you only have to carry one type of batteries if you're using a GPS and a flashlight.
@aseglkj The next Gen of this stove is run off two AA's or in sunny conditions a solar power battery charger works as well. Thanks for putting the tip out there for others to see as well. I suppose I should make a video of the newer model.
Ive never heard of a Sierra Zip stove, but I like the idea. But seems a bit too much work really. Soon you will be taking the kitchen sink out with you.
How is it too mch work? The feeding of the wood to it, or the amount of time spent building it? As for taking the sink.... I take very little out wih me... My pack weighed in at 21 poundsI have been working on decreasing its weight. I am glad you like the idea of the stove.
You want to save weight then leave the fan bhind. You dont need that do you?
I dont know why people are in such a rush to get a boil on. Eating and drinking outdoors is my favourite part. I dont mind waiting an extra 5 mins for a cuppa.
As is stated it is a knock off of the Sierra Stove design and that stove has a fan. Personally I don't mind the wait for my food either when out on a trail. This project was done to see if I could do it. If you look at other videos of mine you will see I have a few wood stoves without fans.
Back in the 80's when I first took to the trails, I read Complete Walker III which featured the Sierra Zip Stove. I was taken with the idea of not having to carry any fuel. I guess you could say that was my first itch toward scratching the ultralight hiker in me. But I had already forked out money for the Whisperlite.
When I fisrt seen the zip stove, I wanted a closer look, when I did get that look I knew I could build it. It took a bit of time to get it just right but as seen here it paid off. I bet that you could build one like this. Best part it is 11grams lighter then the original Sierra zip stove. I guess I just made a challenge, if you like I can show how it is built via video and that way everyone has a choice to build one for themselves. What do you say Interested in a small challenge like this?
Gotta put that on the back burner, Drak. Still working on a pressurized stove concept. After that it's the completion of my vertical wick stove, but I have to fit my backpacking trips in there somewhere, like tommorrow, lol!
i designed one from the concept of a cyclone stove, the idea is that the cyclone air/gas current is made from wind that got caught, that way not needing a vent
it works, ...but it needs a powerboost :p
it also needs constant refueling, which is putting me off
Would like to see your wood gas stove! This one is not a wood gas though... it is more or less like a forge. the super heated air in the chamber is pushed through holes in the bottom of the fuel chamber making it a very hot burn.
Great, I look forward to seeing your video! I have an idea for this stove. I am going to make another fuel chamber with an outer chamber but Im going to make it a wood gas stove. This way I have a choice as to what type I wish to use when I am out on the trails.
I'm an alcohol stove guy myself as far as the trail is concerned but I really like the idea of the wood burner. I really like the Zip stove design and think you did a great job reproducing results. I just might have to build one for when I go car camping :-) Good design but it definitely needs a wind screen...I'm surprised you didn't catch anything on fire the way those flames were dancing around...lol
Everytime I take a stove out for a burn test there is always a fire extiguisher with me. I know I need a windscreen, I am working on one that attaches to the pot and also one that attaches to the upper stove body then easily removed and stowed. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks Hiram! I am using a 9 volt battery and also I have a solar panel that I can charge the battery with or use as the power sorce. I am considering adding a control knob to make the fan a variable speed for different applications of cooking.
Hey Drak, that stove is choice. Regarding variable speed, most computer fans have three wires coming from them - a positive (red), negative (black) and a alternative negative (I have one which is yellow and one which is blue). The second negative wire, used instead of the other, will run the fan at a slower speed.
They built the switch into the sierra I think, my fan unit isn't built into my stove so much so I just have a two way switch, with the positive always on, and I can then switch between the two negatives. I just disconnect the battery to turn it off. I think it might be important to have a seperate control for the primary air to get the best pyrolosis reaction rather than having a forge setup.
I just picked up a few fans at a second hand store with the three wires, I may have to switch it out and see how well it works to vary the speed. Thanks for the tip!
Choice, let me know how it goes. Can you guesstimate the proportion of air going into the bottom of the fire from the fan relative to how much of it goes up the sides then into the fire?
Instead of a wind screen on the stove, I would suggest a wind screen on the pot (something along the design of double walled stove pipe) where the wind screen is a little longer than the pot to offer protection of the flame and guide it up along the sides of the pot (and perhaps give double duty as a heat exchanger too)
Great Idea Bill! Im going to try that. I had an idea for the stove itself and the Kmart Grease Pot but I think I will try your idea first. I have an idea where it would be removableand wraps around the stove for storage.
Great Stove Drak!! I agree I think you have it now!! I personally think the constant feeding is a pain, but What you have to feed it is minimal. I guess it all balances out in the end. 5/5
The constant feeding is really not that bad, I have a switch I am going to attach so that I can control the speed of the fan, that may cut down on the feeding. Thanks for the compliment also!
Very nice work
DeeBee15537 11 months ago
Great craftsmanship! If it works on a 9v battery, it might seem kinda silly, but you can get very small, very light hand crank generators like you find on flashlights and radios that can do 5-12v at considerable current. No risk of the battery dying on you then.
redeyenights 1 year ago
Yes, it was worth your time! And thanks for posting this video
TomPauley 1 year ago
One easy improvement: you might want to use two AA batteries and a DC converter to convert the voltage to 12V. AA batteries have a higher energy density than 9V batteries, are cheaper, and you only have to carry one type of batteries if you're using a GPS and a flashlight.
aseglkj 1 year ago
@aseglkj The next Gen of this stove is run off two AA's or in sunny conditions a solar power battery charger works as well. Thanks for putting the tip out there for others to see as well. I suppose I should make a video of the newer model.
NCHiker1970 1 year ago
i found when burning pine cone in my stoves that you need them to still have a small bed of coals to keep them going
but the on that have resin on/in them are very good for a fast hot burn ill show you in a up coming video :)
pyroman675 1 year ago
Very, very nice!
BrokenAeroVT 2 years ago
super project and restfull soundtrack. guess it's time for me to do some beach side stovin
WorldStove 2 years ago
Thanks! One of my favorite soundtracks for meditation, the beach side stovin sounds like fun!
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
that is a awesome stove. it also produces a nice flame.
man2wild 2 years ago
Thanks, It works well we made a few meals on it already.
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
An excellent job.
Thank you for making the video.
wizzla111 2 years ago
Thanks!
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
Ive never heard of a Sierra Zip stove, but I like the idea. But seems a bit too much work really. Soon you will be taking the kitchen sink out with you.
SpacedTime 2 years ago
How is it too mch work? The feeding of the wood to it, or the amount of time spent building it? As for taking the sink.... I take very little out wih me... My pack weighed in at 21 poundsI have been working on decreasing its weight. I am glad you like the idea of the stove.
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
You want to save weight then leave the fan bhind. You dont need that do you?
I dont know why people are in such a rush to get a boil on. Eating and drinking outdoors is my favourite part. I dont mind waiting an extra 5 mins for a cuppa.
SpacedTime 2 years ago
As is stated it is a knock off of the Sierra Stove design and that stove has a fan. Personally I don't mind the wait for my food either when out on a trail. This project was done to see if I could do it. If you look at other videos of mine you will see I have a few wood stoves without fans.
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
I saw a Japanese stove builder use a plastic cushion-like hand pump instead. Hows that for light and fast?
BrokenAeroVT 2 years ago
Yeah but when it comes to eating I'm a bit lazy after a long day of hiking, LOL
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
Back in the 80's when I first took to the trails, I read Complete Walker III which featured the Sierra Zip Stove. I was taken with the idea of not having to carry any fuel. I guess you could say that was my first itch toward scratching the ultralight hiker in me. But I had already forked out money for the Whisperlite.
BrokenAeroVT 2 years ago
When I fisrt seen the zip stove, I wanted a closer look, when I did get that look I knew I could build it. It took a bit of time to get it just right but as seen here it paid off. I bet that you could build one like this. Best part it is 11grams lighter then the original Sierra zip stove. I guess I just made a challenge, if you like I can show how it is built via video and that way everyone has a choice to build one for themselves. What do you say Interested in a small challenge like this?
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
Gotta put that on the back burner, Drak. Still working on a pressurized stove concept. After that it's the completion of my vertical wick stove, but I have to fit my backpacking trips in there somewhere, like tommorrow, lol!
BrokenAeroVT 2 years ago
i also made a small woodgas stove
i designed one from the concept of a cyclone stove, the idea is that the cyclone air/gas current is made from wind that got caught, that way not needing a vent
it works, ...but it needs a powerboost :p
it also needs constant refueling, which is putting me off
nephildevil 2 years ago
Would like to see your wood gas stove! This one is not a wood gas though... it is more or less like a forge. the super heated air in the chamber is pushed through holes in the bottom of the fuel chamber making it a very hot burn.
This one also needs to be fed fuel constantly!
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
ah i see, yeah thats another concept then
yeah i'm filming it, but will see when i compile and put it up
nephildevil 2 years ago
Great, I look forward to seeing your video! I have an idea for this stove. I am going to make another fuel chamber with an outer chamber but Im going to make it a wood gas stove. This way I have a choice as to what type I wish to use when I am out on the trails.
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
nice stove,.. still working with my ideas and not ready for a fan yet
4ancientarts 2 years ago
I'm an alcohol stove guy myself as far as the trail is concerned but I really like the idea of the wood burner. I really like the Zip stove design and think you did a great job reproducing results. I just might have to build one for when I go car camping :-) Good design but it definitely needs a wind screen...I'm surprised you didn't catch anything on fire the way those flames were dancing around...lol
DragonRidrr 2 years ago
Everytime I take a stove out for a burn test there is always a fire extiguisher with me. I know I need a windscreen, I am working on one that attaches to the pot and also one that attaches to the upper stove body then easily removed and stowed. Thanks for the comment.
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
Nice stove Drak. Did you mention what you use for a power source? What voltage do you run the fan at?
hiramcook 2 years ago
Thanks Hiram! I am using a 9 volt battery and also I have a solar panel that I can charge the battery with or use as the power sorce. I am considering adding a control knob to make the fan a variable speed for different applications of cooking.
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
Hey Drak, that stove is choice. Regarding variable speed, most computer fans have three wires coming from them - a positive (red), negative (black) and a alternative negative (I have one which is yellow and one which is blue). The second negative wire, used instead of the other, will run the fan at a slower speed.
therealtrevor 2 years ago
They built the switch into the sierra I think, my fan unit isn't built into my stove so much so I just have a two way switch, with the positive always on, and I can then switch between the two negatives. I just disconnect the battery to turn it off. I think it might be important to have a seperate control for the primary air to get the best pyrolosis reaction rather than having a forge setup.
therealtrevor 2 years ago
I just picked up a few fans at a second hand store with the three wires, I may have to switch it out and see how well it works to vary the speed. Thanks for the tip!
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
Choice, let me know how it goes. Can you guesstimate the proportion of air going into the bottom of the fire from the fan relative to how much of it goes up the sides then into the fire?
therealtrevor 2 years ago
Looks like you've got that stove dialed in.
Instead of a wind screen on the stove, I would suggest a wind screen on the pot (something along the design of double walled stove pipe) where the wind screen is a little longer than the pot to offer protection of the flame and guide it up along the sides of the pot (and perhaps give double duty as a heat exchanger too)
Great build!!!
Bill
MrBillTroop73 2 years ago
Great Idea Bill! Im going to try that. I had an idea for the stove itself and the Kmart Grease Pot but I think I will try your idea first. I have an idea where it would be removableand wraps around the stove for storage.
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
Great work, as always! I have some old aluminum computer fans. I think I may have to build something soon. 5*! Peace.
TerraFirma369 2 years ago
I would like to see what you come up with. This was an interesting project. Took some time.
NCHiker1970 2 years ago
Great Stove Drak!! I agree I think you have it now!! I personally think the constant feeding is a pain, but What you have to feed it is minimal. I guess it all balances out in the end. 5/5
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wildlifeed 2 years ago
The constant feeding is really not that bad, I have a switch I am going to attach so that I can control the speed of the fan, that may cut down on the feeding. Thanks for the compliment also!
NCHiker1970 2 years ago