DISOWNED PRESIDENT: Carter Condemnation & Passport Revoked for meeting Hamas to Please Kibbutz Boys

[Gothikification]

President Carter got the peace prize too. You know Obama was nominated for the Nobel Peace prize twelve days after taking office. Upon acceptance of winning it, Obama was praised by the committee, "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy". . They also gave the peace prize to Yasser Arafat, the leader of the PLO, the best known terrorist organization on the globe. This is like giving it to David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the KKK.

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Allen West 2012

[whiteking910]

Overall, Scowcroft said, "his political judgment was just awful." But it was consistent: He coddled dictators. During his recent visit to the Middle East, Carter told the Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz, "When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that's the dictator, because he speaks for all the people."

[obaidkarki]

whiteking910

I agree with you about the attitude of carter.

What was his motive: show -- living -- ego guilt?

No matter what he was up to?

He probed into the Middle East unknown that both Israel and Hamas loath to keep this NO PEACE NO WAR status pending as long as they can. Crisis=Opportunity

Mind you a lot of worldwide interests bank on Arab Israel conflict. They are Siamese fighters got to be kept in separate aquarium.

Give me one conspiracism: Arab oil + Israel brain hmmm god forbid

[whiteking910]

But he's a nonpartisan underminer. On President Bill Clinton's watch, he visited war criminal Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia and opposed American military intervention, which would soon halt ethnic cleansing. He visited Kim Il-Sung, the dictator Stalin picked for North Korea, and called it "tragic" that the International Atomic Energy Agency had (correctly) reported violations. Carter helped give them a 10-year breathing space to build their nuclear weapons program.

[whiteking910]

Post-presidency, Carter consistently undermined our nation's foreign policy. He fawned on Nicaraguan ruler Daniel Ortega; Ortega himself now repudiates what he did back then. He lobbied in the U.N. Security Council against the U.S. plan to free Kuwait, and urged our Arab allies to abandon us days before the war. National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft said, "If there was ever a violation of the Logan Act, prohibiting diplomacy by private citizens, this was it."

[suwanee4712]

@whiteking910 Carter is the one that convinced Ortega to have a free election without using fear and intimidation tactics. Ortega subsequently lost the election and upon hearing that Ortega might be changing his mind about accepting the will of the people, I'm not sure how this underminded US policy? If anything Carter ensured that Democracy would be honored and given a chance in a nation that could've easily ended up being another Communist satellite in our hemisphere.

[whiteking910]

As president, he praised the shah for making Iran "an island of stability" because of "the love which your people give you." Iran was soon our implacable enemy. He toasted Poland's Stalinist henchmen as "enlightened leaders" protecting human rights. He said of Ceausescu, later executed for his savage rule of Romania, "Our goals are the same . . . enhancing human rights."

[suwanee4712]

@whiteking910 No one knew the extent of what was happening in Ceaucescu. Every US President regarded him as a friend because he didn't fall in line with Moscow. Now you can say what you will about Carter's relationship with him, but where is your criticism of Nixon and George H.W. Bush who both visited Ceasucescu in Bucharest and to use one of your words "fawned" all over him. As for Poland, Carter met with Lech Welesa the opposition leader and made the Communists mad in doing so.

[whiteking910]

Yet Carter met with them last month and emerged declaring they would recognize Israel's right to exist. Perhaps his reckless rogue diplomacy had for once accomplished something? I thought, wait till tomorrow.

It didn't take that long; in a few hours Hamas responded: They would never recognize Israel. Did Carter lie to the world? Maybe, but I prefer to think he was lying to himself, as he has foolishly done before.

[whiteking910]

Hamas happily claims responsibility for the murders of hundreds of Israeli citizens over the years. Israel sometimes tragically kills civilians, because combatants hide among them. Hamas targets noncombatants.

Hamas seized control of Gaza last year, after Israel's withdrawal, through vicious attacks on moderates in the Palestinian Authority, so the P.A. condemns them, just as Israel and the U.S. do. Most nations, including Arab ones, call Hamas terrorists.

[whiteking910]

Then do me a favor. Name just one thing that the Palestinians have done in the last year to facilitate peace with Israel. Israel has made concession after concession and for what? For violated treaties, broken truces, and false promises.

[whiteking910]

You will find that unemployment and inflation figures are considerably lower now than they ever were under Carter. I find it odd how we didn't hear talk of an "economic crisis" until the election started to get underway.

[culverapex]

Thank you for admitting that Bush's economy is as Bad as Carters. We both agree on that.

[whiteking910]

I never said that, do not put words into my mouth.

[whiteking910]

And I ask you again, what have the Palestinians done to facilitate peace? Israel handed over Gaza and got hit with rocket attacks for their trouble. Hamas and their Arab buddies want Israel destroyed. Do you honestly believe we're better off with Palestine supplanting Israel? Another Arab nation that supports terrorists who desire to kill anyone who does not believe the way they do?

[culverapex]

Man, its black and white with you. In my view, there's no difference between Ireal and Palistine, and so it doesn't matter one iota if the Isrealies dominate this conflict or if the murderous Palistinians come into power. My view is that we need to look past who can do what to whom and end the violence so that POLITICAL solutions from within those two communities can be achieved. You're an idiot if you think Isreal is the better party, and you're just wrong for justifying Isreal's violence.

[whiteking910]

I'll give you a few reasons why Israel is better. The only democratic nation in the region with an independent judiciary. The quality of life is better than any ther nation in that region, which is why many Arabs choose to live there. Freedom of religion and expression, two things virtually unkonwn in that area. Homosexuals don't have to worry about being arrested and executed. Accountable politicians, not royalists or clergy, run Israel.

[whiteking910]

Carter is an anti-Semite who is well-known for his sympathy to anyone who hates Americans and Jews. In fact after his book came out, a number of his Carter Center people resigned in protest of the blatantly biased book.

[culverapex]

That's like saying that someone is a racist for opposing Affirmative Action. Carter is NOT an anti-Semite, if he were why on earth would he have brokered peace between arabs and "jews". Your jingoistic christ-empowered-bigotry is obvious, and 'no' you don't have the moral authority to scream racism at someone like Carter. Again, you're such a silly goose.

[whiteking910]

Carter is perhaps the worst President in U.S. history. A man whose ineffectual policies led to nothing but high taxes and making America look weak. People tossed him out on his ear in favor of a true leader. But Carter can't accept his place in history, so he continually has to meddle in foreign affairs. Carter never met a Communist or terrorist he didn't like.

[culverapex]

lol... you could replace "Carter" for "Bush" in that statement. Yet Bush's economy is even WORSE. You're so silly whiteking910, thank you for the chuckle :D

[whiteking910]

I understand now that Hamas leaders fear for their lives. What's the matter, guys? I thought martyrdom was a glorious affair. At least, that's what you preach to the young men you send off to die in your neverending war against the Jews. Guess you don't like to practice what you preach.

[culverapex]

Just a reminder, or maybe a lecture seeing that you've never picked up a history book, but the fact is that Palistine is but one sinner in this "war". Suicide bombings weren't used against Isreal until after it was clear that there were no political options. In case you haven't heard before, our own founding fathers expressed that the purpose of government was to mitigate tenstions between rival factions so that violence could be avoided. Well, there's no central government to mitigate that..

[culverapex]

violence, and so a more powerful neighbor is needed to broker political solutions. Well, Bush's policy has been 'fuck the palistinians.' Carter has an amazing ability to negotiate peace, is it not in everyone's interest to accept genuine assistance? Seriously dude, read a book.

[whiteking910]

I read plenty of books and it doesn't change the fact that the Palestinians only desire to destroy Israel, not a peaceful co-existence with her. They've said as much. Carter is probably the worst appeaser since Neville Chamberlain. There is nothing redeemable about Hamas, they are a terrorist group, plain and simple. They are interested in nothing but wiping a democratic nation off the map. And they and their evil will always thrive as long as they have enablers like Carter to help them.

[culverapex]

Yeah, you're a Zionist, that's perfectly clear. I'm sorry, but your belief that you have a divine right to murder innocents because 'God gave you Isreal' is just a sicko delusion. Isreal wants to do to Palistine everything you claim Palistine wants to do to Isreal. They're both sinners in this conflict, and it would take a greater man than Bush to change paradigms. Carter can do that because Peace, not profit, is his goal.

[whiteking910]

The truth is that in any peace agreement between the two, it is only Israel who has given anything. Name one thing the Palestinians have given. They have refused to halt attacks, try to crack down on terror, recognize Israel's right to exist, or release Gilad Shalit. And I keep hearing about "right to return". When Israel was founded, every neighboring Arab nation declared war and expelled the Jews from those nations. Will those people have a "right to return". Doubtful.

[culverapex]

At some point there simply needs to be an end to the bloodshed so that in the very least the next generation can at least imagine peaceful coexistance. Four decades of violence for violence hasn't made head room for either side. But look at Norther Ireland. In spite of the fact that both sides were sinners in that conflict, peace is finally settling between the two. Your problem is that you're rubber stamping everything that Isreal does to Palistine, yet they're just as guilty of atrocity.

[whiteking910]

I could say the same for people like you, choosing to turn a blind eye to the evil the Palestinians do. I agree there has to be an end to the violence. However, the idea that if Israel stops shooting at them, the Palestinians will suddenly play nice is laughably naive. If Hamas truly wants peace, they need to start making strides now, because Olmert will not hold power forever. And it is very likely a more hard-line leader will take power.

[culverapex]

Not true at all, the difference between you and I is that I don't have a 'favorite' side. I do recognize that HAMAS is a "Designated Terrorist Organization" but then so to is Isreal. What is the definition of terrorism? Its attacking and/or killing the civilian population for political ends. Isreal imposes sanctions against sections of Palistine, where no food nor aid can get in or out. People are effectively locked in a cage and made to starve for months on end, to pressure a political change.

[whiteking910]

What do you expect Israel to do? Palestinians cross over like rats and bomb their people. If there was a group of terrorists that were doing this to this country, we would have flattened them a very long time ago. Israel has shown more restraint that any country ever has, than any country should have to. You say you don't have a favorite side, but all I hear is you crucifying Israel.

[culverapex]

Ah, "crucifying" Isreal. It's only a matter of time before you start accusing me of supporting the Halocaust. Way to tow the hard-line anit-white-racism. Racism has two faces, you've just exposed the uglier of the two.

[culverapex]

See, what you just said was a more politically useful statement. It recognizes the important points: The violence needs to end because things will only get worse. Very good, whiteking910, very good. Here's your gold star.

[culverapex]

This was to a previous comment you had made.

[whiteking910]

So, in other words, Hamas will offer a shaky truce that could be broken at any time in exchange for Israel giving up most of their territory, allowing the enemy to live in their country, and stopping operations which are crucial to Israel's security. More proof that Hamas doesn't want peace and never did. Even Olmert wouldn't be so naive as to accept this.

[whiteking910]

Hamas head Ismail Haniyeh said Thursday that his group would be willing to halt its attacks on Israel if Israel were to stop all counterterrorism operations and open Gaza crossings. He emphasized that his group would not be willing to recognize Israel.

[whiteking910]

Haniyeh recently offered a long-term ceasefire in exchange for Gaza, Judea, Samaria, Jerusalem, a full stop to counterterrorism operations, the destruction of all Jewish towns in Judea and Samaria, and Israel's absorption of millions of foreign Arabs who claim descent from Arabs who fled Israel in the 1940s. Under such circumstances, Hamas would not recognize Israel, he said, but would hold its fire for at least 10 years.

[whiteking910]

Even the Palestinians admit nothing changed.

Last week's meeting between former US president Jimmy Carter and the exiled leader of Hamas militants did not produce any results, Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki said here Wednesday.

"President Carter came to the region thinking he could achieve something. Unfortunately president Carter left without anything concrete," he told a conference in the Spanish capital.

[whiteking910]

"The only thing he achieved was permission on the part of Khaled Meshaal of Hamas to deliver a letter from a detained Israeli soldier to his family. Nothing else," he said.

"Hamas offered nothing to president Carter. They reiterated the same positions. There was no change on the part of Hamas," Malki added.

[whiteking910]

No one wants to see WWIII, and I resent the insinuation. But the cold, hard fact is that Israel is fighting a war against a group whose sole purpose is to destroy Israel, a group that has said goal as the key point in their charter, a group that broken every treaty and compromise made. Israel is fighting for its very existence and "don't worry, be happy" is not a realistic philosophy for them to adopt.

[Duchateau999]

We are all living in 1 world, and we ALL deserve equal rights!

We should keep positivity in our hearts and share it with others. It is the only way I can think of to accomplish peace over time.

This is a message of peace, love and humanity, same like Carter.

People everywhere, dont focus on the bad things. Focus on the positive. This leads to more positivity!

[whiteking910]

I'm sorry, Duchateau, but I do not see anything positive about a former U.S. President, who has a history of anti-Semitism and cozying up to the thugs and bullies of the world, going to Israel and cozying up to terrorist group for whom the total annihilation of Israel is a hey tenet of their philosophy. I don't see anything positive about him doing this and undermining U.S. and international efforts. I don't see anything positive about him calling the Secretary of State a liar.

[Duchateau999]

Dont focus on negativity, that only leads to more negativity!

By the way, during the meeting with Hamas, it became clear that Hamas is willing to co-exist with Israel. As long as Israel respects the border layed out by the UN after WWII.

Fact is that Israel has been gradually taking more and more land.

I am not anti-semetic, but somehwere that doesnt seem right does it?

Every uppressed people will fight for their right to exist.

Focus on peace instead of hatred my friend!

[whiteking910]

OK, so I guess where the part where Hamas leaders said their recent attacks on Israeli border crossings were "just practice" was just a joke, huh? You Europeans are all the same. All you know is appeasement. Why shouldn't Israel appease Hamas? After all, Hamas has only broken every treaty and truce laid in front of tham and has vowed Israel's destruction.

[Duchateau999]

Again, you're focussing on negativity...

I could reply with the simple fact that both U.S. governement or Israeli governement have done illegal things too. Perhaps even on a bigger scale. But again, thats focussing on negativity.

The ONLY way for peace is to find similarities. 

Regarding the fact that you fail to see that, do you want a WWIII that much?

[bobbymason77]

Israel is a racist

terrorist nation

Americans who recognize

what we did to our own

indigenous population

must recognize that

Israel is South Africa

despicable

[weka99]

I read comments claiming Carter is a fool...

backed up by old testiment references.

What about the new testiment reference is "blessed are the peace makers."

I would say Carter has shown remarkable courage and needs some support. If the two sides are not going to talk with one another how can there ever be peace. The killing and mistreatment on a human level on both sides has got to STOP.

Shalom

[whiteking910]

Weka, what Carter has done isn't courageous. It isn't a matter of talking. The Palestinians are led by a group whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel. How is anyone suppose to negotiate with that? Carter has undermined U.S. and European peace efforts, has given a bunch of bloodthirsty terrorists credibility, and has endorsed Hamas and their neverending war.

[weka99]

Hi Whiteking910,

It seems to me that successive Isreali administration through different tactics is doing a similiar thing to the Palestinians Building the wall, occupation, etc.

My point: How are two sides going to achieve peace when both sides are in a cycle of inflicting as much pain and suffering as possible on each other.

Clearly the status quo is not working. I applaud Carter for trying to find another way. There is absolutely NO, zero chance of peace on the current path.

[whiteking910]

And, once again, weka, I ask you. How is Israel supposed to deal with a regime that is headed by a group that calls for Israel's destruction in its charter? How are to supposed to negotiate with a group that is recognized as a terrorist organization by the western world, has said time and time again they want to destroy Israel, not live in peace alongside her, and has said that recent attacks on Israeli border crossings were "just practice".

[muslimwhisper]

same old sam old nothing changed

peanut head carter go home drown you sorry ass in billy beer

[oroweight]

Jimmy Carter,the worst president we ever had,is an idiot.He knows Biblical and historical Israel

yet his antisemitic and hate for the Jewish people is so great that he wants and will do anything for the destruction of Israel. He is pure evil and should go raise some more peanuts. He is irrelevant.

[whiteking910]

Jimmy Carter's "peace partners" vowed Monday to carry out harsher attacks on Israel. A Hamas spokesman told a Palestinian newspaper on Monday that Hamas plans future attacks on Israel, adding that recent attacks on Israel have been "just practice."

[whiteking910]

Well, maybe if Hamas didn't send suicide bombers into Israeli territory, there would be no need for a wall. Further, the Palestinians' lack of infrastructure is their own fault. It is not the fault of Israel that the Arabs choose to spend their aid money on weapons, rather than on food, medicine, and fuel. While it is true that Hamas was elected, that does not mean that Israel is required to treat with them. Why should Israel deal with a group whose stated goal is the destruction of Israel?

[whiteking910]

Those meetings may well have increased Hamas' standing among Palestinians despite the destructive nature of Hamas' rule in Gaza - engaging in war against Israel despite the heavy toll on Gazan infrastructure due to ignoring all basic services in order to wage a terror war.

[whiteking910]

All Carter has done on this trip is confirm that he's a useful idiot for terrorists and their terror masters. He's willingly and openly pushing an agenda of undermining Israel's sovereignty at the expense of terrorist groups who seek nothing less than Israel's destruction and makes incessant statements attacking Israel's rights to defend itself from ongoing and persistent attacks.

[whiteking910]

Carter's statements will be incorporated into Palestinian propaganda for years to come, as he's fully a Palestinian apologist and intent on undermining Israel's rights to defend itself from incessant terrorist attacks.

[whiteking910]

Carter continues to believe that Israel is the stumbling block in the Israel-Palestinian conflict, ignoring the reality that Hamas has no interest in peace with Israel - they want Israel destroyed. It's a core religious and ideological tenet. Fatah, who supposedly is the more moderate terrorist group, is also dedicated to Israel's destruction, but are more willing to take the long term approach to destroying Israel. They'll use diplomacy and people like Carter to advance their agenda.

[whiteking910]

Jimmy Carter, the absolute fool that he is, said it's all the fault of the U.S. and Israel for not meeting with terrorists! The man's clueless.

Carter also said today that Hamas is ready to accept Israel as a neighbor. You know, Hamas lies. It is in their charter not to accept Israel so they just told Carter what he wanted to hear.

A Hamas spokesman said Hamas' readiness to put a peace deal to a referendum "does not mean that Hamas is going to accept the result of the referendum."

[whiteking910]

Let me give you a couple of examples of how badly the Arabs want peace. In 2000, negotiations were conducted between Ehud Barak and Yasser Arafat at Camp David. In these talks, Israel was prepared to give the Palestinians virtually everything they wanted. Arafat refused. The intifada began soon after. Israel responded by electing Ariel Sharon, a hard-liner, as Prime Minister. More recently, in 2005, Israel withdrew from Gaza Strip. The Palestinians moved in, and used it for rocket attacks

[whiteking910]

Msbea, the reason we are fighting this act of sedition by Carter is because he has defied long-standing U.S. foreign policy and has treated with a group known the world over as a terrorist organization. He has undermined the government and given these monsters credibility at a time where the international community is attempting to isolate them. He has set the peace process back immeasurably. Hamas doesn't want peace with Israel. They have said this again and again. They want to destroy it.

[whiteking910]

ludigaw, it contains people who are not on duty and, unlike Arabs, are not launching attacks from those places. As far as your "voting for killing children" remark, let me tell you something. Give me one example of Israel passing a "Let's kill Arab hildren" bill. I've been to Israel and am convinced that they want peace, but it is hard to have peace when you are being hit by rockets and bombs on a daily basis. Flames, your remark shows that many of you aren't pro-peace, you're anti-Semitic.

[Msbea345]

I wonde why the US and Israel are fighting this..could it be that there are top officials in both countries who actually don't want peace in the Middle East?

[WorldInFlamesAgain]

Wow, an American (Carter) who may actually want peace!

If the jews who run the USA continue to have their way, there will be never ending war all over the World to feed their lust for money from the arms industry.

[whiteking910]

Was it really civilian areas, or were they targeting terrorists who were hiding in civilian areas? You see, everyone knows that a favorite tactic of these terrorists is to launch attacks from areas heavily populated in the hopes that if Israel retaliates, political pressure will mount in Israel. And before you hit me up with more leftist babble, I would like to know which independent groups claim what you did.

[ludwigau]

"Was it really civilian areas, or were they targeting terrorists who were hiding in civilian areas?"

If that is your defence, then you just provided Hezbollah and Hamas with the perfect defence of bombing of cafes in Tel Aviv. After all, cafes contain soldiers - both enlisted and on reserve. It also contains people who vote for the killing of Arab children.

[MissMelodia]

This week a small town mayor from Sweden has been in Capitol Hill to talk about the Iraqi Refugees from Americas illegal occupation.

Hes town has of 80.000 has taken in more Iraqis than UK & USA together.

Sweden with 9.million people has taken 37.000 of all the refugees not counting the illegal ones at least 40.000.

America 700 Iraqis.

Did it make the News in US. No!

J.Carter the Nobel peace prize 2002

Al Gore 2007.

We were against the WAR!

Soon we are little Iraq thanx to America!

[whiteking910]

First, melodia, allow me to point out that no country is obligated to admit anyone. Second, the war was NOT illegal. The war had the authority of Congress and the President and that is as legal as you can get here. If you dislike the war, fine. But please stop calling it illegal, because we all know it isn't. It is also important to point out that Sadat's signing of the treaty didn't go over well back home and he was killed a couple of years later. Shows how much the Arabs desire peace.

[culverapex]

Nation building wasn't in the declaration. The war in IRAQ is over, remember? The current mission has no congressional approval, nor does it have popular support. I guess people like you--who don't give a shit about human life--don't care about the democratic process. Bush is not a prince, and we are NOT his people. He serves us, as does congress and we've demanded an end to this war. If you love murdering innocents so damned much, enlist.

[whiteking910]

For your information, halfwit, I DID enlist. I was honorably discharged for medical reasons. And I never killed anyone who didn't attack me first. I do care about human life. I just don't care for the lives of terrorists who brainwash children, and raise them to be suicide bombers to kill other children.

[whiteking910]

I meant to say that's not to count all the crazies who wish to kill those who dare to speak against Islam. Theo van Gogh used his freedom of expression, made a movie that criticized Islam and paid for it with his life. People like Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Geert Wilders are under protection 24/7 for their anti-Islam views. A Dane who drew cartoons insulting Mohammed hides in fear of his life. Canadian conservatives like Ezra Levant and Mark Steyn are dragged before a psuedo-court for their views.

[whiteking910]

Why do I think Islamists wish to kill us all? 9/11 was all the motivation I needed to think that. 19 ragheads murdered 3000 innocent people. That is why we must continually be on guard against these animals. We have Iran going for nukes, calling for the desturction of Israel and the U.S., and giving aid and support to terrorists in Iraq.  The rocket that caused the wounds that I was discharged for was Iranian-made. And that's not to count all the crazies who dare to speak against Islam.

[whiteking910]

Israel violating UN policies is bunk. The UN is well-known for their anti-Israel bias and doesn't do a damn thing about real problems like Darfur or Iran's rise to nuclear proliferation. You claim 30 Palestinians die to one Israel. Can you verify that? And if so, how many of those Palestinian deaths were actually due directly to Israeli aggression. As for the USS Liberty, there are many who still believe it to be a tragic accident and what really happened will always be in dispute.

[whiteking910]

One of the key sticking points is the refusal of Hamas to recognize Israel's right to exist. One of the key tenets of Hamas is to have supremacy over the whole region. So, tell me, good people. Why should the Israelis negotiate for peace with a group who will accept nothing less than the total destruction of the Jewish state.

[whiteking910]

Former President Carter has acted in contradiction of international agreements to isolate Hamas. He has acted in defiance of both United States policy and international policy. His actions reward terrorists, lend support, and provide legitimacy to their belief that violence will eventually get them what they want.

[TheLionsEyes]

What about Israel all the violence they are doing and they get off scott free. 30 Palestinians die for every 1 Israeli.. so who is the real threat here. They have turned Palestine into one giant concentration camp. They violate more U.N. Policies then any other country but we protect them. Its insanity friend. We give them billions of dollars every year.

[whiteking910]

There is a long list of people who thought they could reason with dictators and killers, going back to Neville Chamberlain and Hitler in the 1930s, but it has been shown to be absolutely wrong.

[junkradio]

well said Obaid.

[whiteking910]

What happens to the Palestinians is their own fault. It is they who choose to fire rockets from densely populated areas. It is they who doom themselves to a state of perpetual war. They kill again and again and try to pass themselves as the victims when Israel finally retaliates. I don't buy it. I rather have a democratic Jewish nation than see another Muslim nation run by a bunch of riligious nutjobs.

[BeMyBro]

excuse my language people..but you can top a pile of shit with whip cream...cherries...M&Ms...its will still be shit and no one will eat it.....amazingly americans do eat it....and israel is selling.

[whiteking910]

FYI, philip, I DID serve in the Army. I was honorably discharged a year ago for medical reasons. A draft is highly unlikely because Bush realizes the political fallout that would result. Funny how it tends to be anti-war Democrats who champion a draft. But the smart ones know that a draft would cause more problems than it would solve.

[Phillipdmind]

Thanks for your service. I speak to FT Carson troops daily. . .

[whiteking910]

You people want to know what evil is? Let me tell you what it is. Evil is a man going into a religious school and opening fire on a bunch of unarmed students, all but one of them children. Evil is cheering this barbaric act instead of denouncing it.

[Phillipdmind]

Don't hold this last statement to a mirror, you might find out something very revealing.

[whiteking910]

You people talk about freedom, about how you love freedom, and about how Bush is allegedly stripping away our freedoms. And yet, you brutally assail the only free democratic nation in the Mideast. You express sympathy for those to whom such freedom is anathema. People who are actively against things such as freedom of speech, expression, and religion. People who are against gender equality. But the enemy of your enemy is your friend, right? You people make me sick.

[Phillipdmind]

Hey Whiteking910, Recon by fire, a favorite tactic of the IDF. I witnessed it myself in Beirut in 1983. The idea was to shoot at anything suspicious and see what happens. . .

Real humanitarian

[whiteking910]

Carter's administration and their serial strategic incompetence is history. Better men have tried to mitigate and fix the damage that administration wrought on the world. The latest Carter book is "A Remarkable Mother" about his mother, Lillian. Frankly, Carter would be better off promoting the book and abandoning quixotic quests that exceed both his grasp and comprehension.

[Phillipdmind]

Talk about "tilting windmills" Sancho. You are still young enough to help the cause by joining the military. Are you prepared to do so? If things continue both, you and I, will be drafted. I have nothing to lose, I've been there, you?

[whiteking910]

Nixon's paranoid conniving, Bush senior's myopia, Bill Clinton's hound dogging, and even the late Gerald Ford's balance challenges all are trumped by gravitas of "former president." It shouldn't matter what former presidents do or say beyond history books and academic spade work. But it does . . . especially on the international geopolitical stage.

[whiteking910]

Notwithstanding the personal foibles of individual men, all former presidents carry the life long burden and responsibility of representing the office of the president. It is more than the perception of courtesy that traditionally former presidents defer (or remain silent) on their successors' policies which may contradict their own deep felt opinions.

[whiteking910]

Carter is a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy at Annapolis and yet he seems intent on not only insulting the core values of his classmates and country, but jazzed with a misplaced hubris that he, and he alone, can mitigate the fundamental terrorist dogma of an organization committed to destroying the very essence of "Duty, Honor, Country" that remains integral to our military. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich accuses Carter of "strategic stupidity," but Carter's sins are worse that stupid.

[whiteking910]

The fact that he either doesn't comprehend the import of meeting with terrorist leaders suggests either his reasoning is impaired or he flat out doesn't care about gifting terrorists with a humongous public relations gift.

[whiteking910]

The letter said, "we believe that your efforts to forge peace in the region will be overshadowed by this meeting." It said Carter's meeting could "confer legitimacy" on a group that embraces violence. Barack Obama's pledge to meet with Iran's president, Ahmadinejad is strategically a bad idea. However, at least the neophyte Obama seeks to meet with the president of another country. Carter ought to know better.

[whiteking910]

Here is another unsolicited gift from the Democrats to their septuagenarian rival in November.

Several Democratic members of the House apparently plan to forward a letter to Carter Monday urging him to reconsider his scheduled meeting with leaders of Hamas during his next visit to the Middle East. Reps. Artur Davis of Alabama, Shelley Berkley of Nevada, Adam Schiff of California, and Adam Smith of Washington state asked Carter to drop the planned meeting.

[whiteking910]

However, notwithstanding admonitions from the State Dept. and a letter from congressional Democrats, Carter intends to flip them off and drape himself in his Nobel Peace Prize mantle despite his own party's angst. As if Democrats didn't have enough problems between the warring presidential wannabes and gaffes of their other posturing former U.S. president, Carter has refused to accept overwhelming facts, advice and counsel that would impede him from another into international photo opportunism.

[whiteking910]

The State Department has already (twice . . . not once, but twice) advised (counseled, recommended, cajoled) Carter against meeting any representative of Hamas. Such a meeting would be a big gift to all terrorists and the first public contact in two years between any prominent American figure and Hamas officials. It would, according to a letter from Democrats, "confer legitimacy" on a group that embraces and endorses violence.

[MementoExpose]

Okay then what do you suggest we do, let them fight it out for the next 60-100 years? If people talk to them then maybe peace can finally be achieved, & maybe Israel can stop their terrorist attacks against the Palestinians (or was the Reuters cameraman also a ''terrorist''?)

[whiteking910]

And Rice is not the Lone Ranger. This is not just a proclamation of neo-con policy dogma. It is an empirical fact: Hamas is the problem . . . not even remotely near or interested in a solution.

"Hamas is a terrorist organization," Rice said, repeating the Bush administration's explanation for why it will not meet with members of the group. Duh!?!?

[whiteking910]

Former President Carter's plans to meet the exiled leader of the militant terrorist group Hamas in Syria is way over the top. Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations committed to routinely pouring gasoline on any and all smoldering embers in the Mideast. Without naming him, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice criticized Carter.

"I find it hard to understand what is going to be gained by having discussions with Hamas about peace when Hamas is the impediment to peace," Rice said.

[whiteking910]

Forget the 22 percent interest rates, 13 percent inflation, the Iranian hostage debacles, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, his creation of the Departments of Energy and Education as Cabinet positions, or his refusal to allow the officer with the nuclear football to be near him, and general cluelessness of the 39th president of the United States.

[whiteking910]

Former President Jimmy Carter's latest brain flatulence synthesizes stupidity and vanity.

With age is supposed to come wisdom and gravitas . . . unless apparently you are a myopic arrogant peanut farmer from Georgia who carries the distinction of being the worst U.S. president in modern history.

[whiteking910]

The world will endure, as it always has. And quite frankly, I would think that Islamic terrorism is a greater thereat to a free world than any policy Bush could put out. Talk of pulling Cheney's passport is ridiculous. There has never been any evidence that either he or Bush have done anything illegal. The focus is on a man who has chose to embrace men who are viewed as terrorists by much of the western world.

[Phillipdmind]

What free world? You mean the one where a former US president cannot finish the "Detante" he began? How much have you invested in the arms market? The people who represent the constituents of this country have made millions by investing here. That's should be treasonable under the "Color Of Office" clause.

[whiteking910]

Carter might be a decent person, I've never met the man personally. But his blatant interference with delicate foreign policy issues have angered every sitting president since he left office. And this latest stunt could cost his center federal funding, which I agree with. Why should the government support him, if he will not support the government?

[Phillipdmind]

What? You simply mouth what the senatorial war monger said. Who cares about a building when the world is on fire, near the brink of massive destruction? Why don't we pull Cheny's passport? The international comunity only wants domination a subservent populance.

[whiteking910]

You claim the U.S. is a terrorist nation? Let me tell you something. A terrorist nation is a place like Canada where writers who criticize Islam are dragged before their Human Rights Commission where proceedings are closed to the public, a body that answers to no court, and is allowed to prosecute imaginary hate crimes to their heart's content. Thank God I still live in a country where I have the right to say whatever I damn well please regardless whether it hurts some raghead's feelings.

[jln195399]

Carter may have been criticized as a 'bad president' but in my opinion he is a gentle , sweet man and even though he went against the grain, people may be surprised, who knows? He has guts!

[whiteking910]

I would like for you to point out one incident in the last 2 years where Israel has engaged in the slaughter of innocent civilian, where their objective was slaughter. It is Hamas who have chosen to embroil their nation in a state of perpetual war. It is Hamas who has chosen to spend foreign aid money on bullets rather than food and medicine. It is Hamas who chooses to launch rockets into densely populated areas and does it from densely populated areas to inflict political harm on Israel.

[MementoExpose]

The only American president who was able to bring peace to the Middle East is probably the most hated President in US history, tells you a lot about American culture doesn't it. I always hear Americans say that they're against war and against warmongers, but all the signs point in the other direction

[whiteking910]

Carter didn't broker peace in the middle east. He brokered a deal between two of the nations in the middle east. That was about the only thing he did. Carter's legacy is one of high taxes at home and weakness abroad. We couldn't kick him out of office fast enough.

[Phillipdmind]

How old were you then? You would remember the shady dealings of the Reagan administration had you been born 10 years sooner. Col. Olie North, Macnamara, Iran-Contra, and all the other events that are convienently forgotten. . .

[whiteking910]

I'm not the one who needs help. You say I've been brainwashed by the White House. I say you've been brainwashed by the anti-American wackos. If you think Bush and Cheney are worse than Hitler, then you have a very poor grasp of history. Hitler waged war on the world and was responsible for the deaths of at least 12 million innocent people, directly responsible. Comparing the man to Hitler just because you don't like his politics demeans the suffering of the victims of the Third Reich.

[navtel]

way to go carter.. this white house is only interested in war, not peace.. bush and cheney are worse than hitler ever was.. they should both be tried, convicted and hung, in my humble opinion.

[dtandersen]

How can you talk about peace in the middle east when there are polygamists in Texas?! :)

[whiteking910]

I don't think Israel is an ally, I know Israel is an ally. Israel is one of the few nations that have had the courage to stand up to the Islamists who wish to destroy us all. I remember 9/11. While Palestinians cheered in the streets, Israel declared a national day of mourning and offered assistance with the rescue efforts. And at a time where Iran is developing nukes, Israel is an important ally indeed. Thier bombing of the Iraqi nuclear reactor saved us a major headache.

[navtel]

you need help.. quit believing all the crap out of the white house.. geez.. you have been duped by everything the good ol USA has been saying about terrorism.. when in fact it is israel, america and great britain are the terrorist nations if the truth be know.

[libertyerian]

whiteking910-You only need to look back to the attack on the USS Liberty to know that Israel doesn't give a shit about the US they're just users. If you care to remember the Israel Masad was taking smiling pictures of them selves in front of the burning towers and as for Iran there were thousands of Iranians having a candle light vigil in Tehran. Why do you think Islamists wish to destroy us all?

[whiteking910]

It was because, the Carter administration could not tell a friend from an enemy. His combination of naivete and cynicism—from open-mouthed shock at Leonid Brezhnev's occupation of Afghanistan to underhanded support for Saddam in his campaign of megalomania—had terrible consequences that are with us still. It's hardly an exaggeration to say that every administration since has had to deal with the legacy of Carter's cowardice and incompetence.

[libertyerian]

support for Saddam was mostly Reagan's doing.

[culverapex]

Heh, and yet Franklin preached the 'keep your enemies closer' doctrine. I guess you're saying that the neocons are right? 'Occupy and oppress' doesn't work, as even the neocons are abandoning that philosophy. If anything, you're an angry Ireal sympathizer who'd rather destroy every palistinian than admit the simple truth that Isreal has become a monster. If you look at the Isrealites, they murdered everyone in the name of God... and they're still doing it. How are they different than HAMAS?

[whiteking910]

Name any recent time where Israel just went into the Palestinian territories with the sole objective of wiping them all out. Keep villifying Israel all you want, after all, hating Jews is more PC than hating Muslims, isn't it? If anything, you're a pussy, anti-Semitic liberal who'd rather watch the Jews destroyed, than do anything to anger the Muslims.

[whiteking910]

In the Carter years, the United States was an international laughingstock. This was not just because of the prevalence of his ghastly kin: the beer-sodden brother Billy, doing deals with Libyan President Muammar Qaddafi, and the grisly matriarch, Miz Lillian. It was not just because of the president's dire lectures on morality and salvation and his weird encounters with lethal rabbits and UFOs.

[whiteking910]

Jimmy Carter has been a thorn in the side of every President since he left office. He seems to have this delusion that his status as an ex-President gives him the right to conduct foreign policy completely independent of U.S. foreign policy. Hamas doesn't want peace with Israel. Hamas wants to destroy Israel. To them, Jews are pigs and need to be wiped out. Some may criticize Israel's response you can only take enough suicide bombs and rocket attacks before you are forced to retaliate.

[libertyerian]

Every person in America has the right to get involved in foreign affairs. It's the US government that is under the delusion that it has the right to interfere with foreign affairs.

[whiteking910]

Yes, every person does have the right to get involved in foreign affairs. But the proper way to do that is through their representatives in Congress and by expressing their opinion. It does not include a former President going to people that are widely recognized as terrorists by much of the western world. And the affairs in Israel are our business. Israel is perhaps our biggest ally and has been for quite some time.

[libertyerian]

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people." This means that without an amendment to the constitution the federal government has no right to take money from the people to give to anyone. This is supposed to be a land of laws not of men. My representative represents 51% of people but in a republic that does not mean that the 49% loose their freedom to decide for them selves.

[whiteking910]

But the government does have the right to conduct foreign affairs, which includes giving aid to those who might be our allies. While I feel this has been abused (I resent giving money to those who hate us, like Egypt and the Palestinians.), we must be careful in limiting the government. While the government must not become an all-powerful nanny state at the exspense of the states or the people, we must grant it flexibility in areas such as foreign affairs.

[libertyerian]

I think the founding fathers would object to giving flexibility to government. That's why "shall not" is the theme of the bill of rights. And I don't know why you think Israel is an ally.

[utubehayter]

and you think this is not going to affect you as a citizen. Correct?

[whiteking910]

No, I don't think it's going to affect me as a citizen and I'll tell you why. There must be balance. While the government must be given boundaries, we cannot restrict them too much. This is especially important when one considers our superpower status. While freedom is a very good thing, anything taken to an extreme can be harmful. Freedom, taken to extremes, is anarchy.

[utubehayter]

You forgot 9/11?

[ludwigau]

Israel doesn't want peace with Hamas. Hamas Israel wants to destroy Hamas. To them, Arabs are pigs and need to be wiped out. Some may criticize Hamas's response, but you can only take enough sniper-shots at school children and missile attacks on marketplaces before you are forced to retaliate.

[whiteking910]

There are people that within Israel that do want peace. Name a time when Israel wantonly targeted civilians at random. Israel has, time and time again, attempted to avoid civilian casualties. Hamas has no such qualms. I'd wager that if you measured the number of civiliand killed by Hamas vs the number of civilians killed by Israel, Hamas would far outstrip Israel.

[ludwigau]

"Name a time when Israel wantonly targeted civilians at random."

ALL independent international observers of the IDF's destruction of Lebanon in 2006 reported that the IDF was attacking civilian targets. In the last days of the war, while the peace deal was being signed, the IDF indiscriminately sowed Lebanon's civilian areas with millions of cluster bombs. Case closed.

[ludwigau]

"Name a time when Israel wantonly targeted civilians at random."

ALL independent international observers of the IDF's destruction of Lebanon in 2006 reported that the IDF was attacking civilian targets. In the last days of the war, while the peace deal was being signed, the IDF indiscriminately sowed Lebanon's civilian areas with millions of cluster bombs. Case closed.

[ludwigau]

"Name a time when Israel wantonly targeted civilians at random."

ALL independent international observers of the IDF's destruction of Lebanon in 2006 reported that the IDF was attacking civilian targets. In the last days of the war, while the peace deal was being signed, the IDF indiscriminately sowed Lebanon's civilian areas with millions of cluster bombs. Case closed.

[navtel]

maybe it is because israel wants to destroy them.. too bad hamas did not have the same weaponry that israel has, then we would see if they would be bombing innocent women and children with their gunships.. don`t forget sabra and shatila and of course genine..

[whiteking910]

Jimmy Carter is a traitor. Someone needs to get through to him that he is no longer the President and it is not for him to conduct foreign policy in total defiance of current U.S. policy. He's not brave or wise or any of this other crap that you people claim. He's perhaps the foremost Jew-hater in the country who is giving credibility to an amoral, murderous terrorist organization. I fully support efforts to cut federal funds to his center and to revoke his passport. An example must be set.

[Phillipdmind]

Why do you spread untruths? By your moniker I see you are a hater.

[whiteking910]

I dare you to prove I am spreading untruths. Name the last terrorist attack Israel perpetuated. Do they send suicide bombers into densely populated areas? Do they fire rockets indiscrimantely into Palestinian towns? It is the Palestinians who have broken every major cease-fire and treaty over the past decade. It is the Palestinians who choose to brainwash their children into hating Jews and spend their foreign aid to buy bullets over bread, rockets over rice.

[cutegual]

whiteking wake up. Israeli even they kill media man shut up stop talking for Israel from your bed . Go look what is happen to the children of Palestine and the reporters.

[elgammal44]

Jimmy Carter have balls - he also a very wise man and will not obey the neocons

[kiril1]

We already have understood that he has balls.Now,what about a brain?

[elgammal44]

trust me he have much better brain than any of the warmonger neocon adminstration. Carter is the only person who achieved real peace in the middle east bet. egypt and israel .

[elgammal44]

Jimmy Carter have balls - he also a very wise man and will not obey the neocons

[hagiaadrasteia]

I agree with you completely. Thank you for the post. I really enjoy your commentaries.

[TheLionsEyes]

Carter is brave and doing good, he has more guts then all the pigs in the whitehouse combined. Hopefully this will bring more attention to whats going on over there.

[libertyerian]

I like the examples you gave at the end. Reporters are supposed to ask questions and be critical regardless of there own point of view. She is just a propagandist. Good news is bad news for the MSM they don't want it to ever end.