I have very curly long hair n sexy body n every one loves my erotic belly dance but when i watched sonia !!!!!Wow that's an amazing n sexy belly dancer , I really wished to see her second part when dances faster with a fast beat , she is so gorgeous
@Dawn2Dusknback In fact, you can take a look to Saida, a bellydancer from Argentina, who's been dancing for years with The Horus Orchestra. They always play this kind of music. You can listening to Mario Kirlis, it's amazing!
Mario Kirlis is amazing! He and his orchestra came to Hong Kong last year to perform in the Raqs Hong Kong (Int’l) Belly Dance Festival 2010, it was absolutely wonderful!
News flash for those talking about matriarchal societies: There were none. If it can be traced back to Margaret Murray's (debunked) theories, then it's not a reliable source. Murray was an Egyptologist, not an anthropologist, and she jumped to conclusions so many times it's a wonder she didn't get whiplash. That being said, bellydance is a wonderful celebration of womanhood. You don't need an imaginary matriarchal society to appreciate that.
wonderfull dancer wonderfull woman. healthy and no fat! who says she is fat has a duble vision. she is perfect! the music? may be Bach or something similar...what's a pity the interruption....
Que estupidez que por encontrarla "gorda" comparen a esta bailarina con otras... no saben acaso que en el medio oriente las mujeres tienen que ser rellenitas para ser atractivas?
Beautiful dander, beautiful moves. Every dancer has their own style but Sonia has finesse and not all bellydancers can say that. By the way if anyone doesn't like this music nor this style of dance then maybe they shouldn't sit there and watch it and then insult all those who do like it, that just shows how ignorant some people are.
Sadie and Sonia have very different styles: Sadie KILLS the drum solo, she can't be touched, but Sonia is very good at the slower, sensual stuff - it may be part of her personality
Yo no entiendo porque ustedes se pelean tanto; "que si a alguno le parece que Sonia se vé gorda, que si no lo es, que si Sadie es mejor ó no", creo que lo importante es lo que cada quien puede compartir y aprender del otro, recuerden que en la Danza Oriental ó Bellydance, no existen pasos ni bailarinas perfectas, hay bailarinas con pasión, amor al arte, pero sobre todo haciendo lo que les gusta, cada bailarina tiene su propio estilo, hay que ser tolerantes; saludos a tod@s!!
I do not understand why you are fighting so much, "that if any of you think that Sonia looks fat , if not, that if Sadie is better or not," I think the important thing is that everyone can share and learn from the other, remember that in Oriental Dance or Bellydance, there are no steps or perfect dancers, there are dancers with passion and love of art ; but mostly doing what they like, each dancer has their own style, we must be tolerant , greetings to all, God bless you always!!
@KimmyHEARTSx33 Sometimes for tuxsim it's nice to incorporate a lot of arm work and really quiet body work so to not overload the audience with information. If you throw out all your tricks and all of your stomach/hip work in one dance then you'll have nothing left for other dances and people won't find you interesting because hey, you've seen every single move you can do already. I thought her dancing was nice. Simple and elegant.
Thank you! MayaRaqsTheDance is right! finally someone with knowledge of belly dacing! But the only thing is that they weren't allowed to shoe skin. They had layers and layers of clothes so hip movements and whatnot had to be more drastic.
I hate to be one of those people who corrects others, but belly dance originated as a dance for women, not men. It was used to ease the pain of child birth and as a celebration of womanhood. Only in more modern culture is it viewed (wrongly if I might add) as something sexual.
Well.... Not literally to ease childbirth... But yeah, the flexibility in it....
Its origins were for those purposes but it transformed (Before reaching the west) into a sexual dance..... A lot of the moves are seductive and were initiated during the western occupation of eastern countries whereby the officials of the western government were entertained by a harem of women by bellydancing....
There is actually no evidence that it was originated in this way. In egypt sex was sacred, and there are many paintings depicting naked dances by women. We see sex as sleazy -b ut they did not back then and so it was not seen as bad to be seductive and sensual. We can only theorize on how the dance came about as it has evolved and changed endlessly. The dance as we know it now comes mostly out out of the Orientalist movement and is a fantasy - a beautiful fantasy too.
Probably only during the time of a matriarchal society would this kind of dance have been revered for what it really means. I really long for that to come back....seriously over the male dominated view of female sensuality and sexuality. This is beautiful...
@Kayenne54 isn t it obvious for everyone in the western world that it is dominated by women (and faggots) only who turn their kids to total garbage ? When do you live ? in the 1930s?
@Kayenne54 Belly dance is very prevalent in the Arab world, esp. in Egypt where 1/3rd of women can belly dance. Just because they do it away from cameras and men doesn't mean that they can't dance. I hate when people make assumptions without any evidence. Are you suggesting that Arab society was at one time matriarchal and that it was possible to see open displays of belly dance? Show your proof please. I for one am proud to say that our society has always maintained its honour and dignity.
@MayaRaqsTheDance, EXACTLY! Its always misunderstood as this 'Harem Shuffle', that was performed only for men, prior to sex, and it pisses me off immensly that people dont know that massage and belly movements were used to manage menstrual cramps and dancing was a stress reliever and a form of bonding and expression in a severely male dominated environment. In many ways the tradition was kept going like that of the shackled Africans in the Americas, to keep body and soul together.
@MayaRaqsTheDance I hate to be one of those people who corrects others, but belly dance originated as a social dance for both women and men. It was used to ease the pain of a stressful societal pressure and as a celebration of life and existence. Only in more modern culture is it viewed (wrongly if I might add) as a purely feminine art of 'finding your inner goddess'. all turks and arabs find it hilarious when the art of M.E dance is 'sold' and packaged with theses silly commercial slogans.
@MayaRaqsTheDance yes and i'll add that before even fat womens were belly dancing and it might be like that now , i'm not anorexic or skinny and i do belly dance.
@MayaRaqsTheDance haha you know nothing about this dance!!! read this - and you will know that male bellydancers have a long tradition! Zadiel.de and than artikel in the new york times!
@MayaRaqsTheDance I also hate to be one of those people who correct others, but belly dance was always and will always be sexual. Do you think celebration of womanhood has nothing to do with fertility? and fertility has nothing to do with sexuality. Everyone knows how babies are made. And usually after that dance women had sex, read old Arab tales and you will see. And of course sexuality is connected to childbirth. Don't be in denial. and for conclusion, sexual is not bad, it is natural.
@StrangeTorbar I never said the two were not connected. But there is a difference between being elegant about it and being scandalously skanky and promiscuous. I think maybe you are obsessed with sex. I checked out your profile and it seems that most of your comments are about that particular subject. Don't hate on me because I think belly dance should be performed in a classy (not trashy) manner. Sonia pulls it off beautifully.
@MayaRaqsTheDance I am not talking about promiscuous behavior(whatever that means), just what I know from history, that on that celebrations of womanhood, in temples they were doing belly dancing until reaching trance and then they had sex. At that time it was normal, and they were considered as almost goddesses. I am talking about time before monotheism. I've seen better dances than this girl in my Arab family. I didn't hate on you, I just corrected you, and you are offended.
@MayaRaqsTheDance And as for the profile, I made it an hour ago, so you didn't have much to check. I made comments because I hate when I see that people are against natural, and sex is natural, nothing to be obsessed with. Also I am a married young girl, and yes I enjoy having sex with my husband, nothing scandalous about it. I don't see belly dancing as art, because it was never art, it was part of ceremony and later entertainment. So for fun, girls should dance however they can.
@MayaRaqsTheDance because real art should have message, as theater for example, but not any theater, for example Bertolt Brecht's theater is the greatest for me. Ok maybe belly dance has message but not artistic one, It's original message is: ,,look at me, I am fertile, come and take me''. and today it looks nice and is flirty, and belly dancer is flirting with those who are watching her, and In my family case, message is stand up girls, let's have fun and joy together.
@StrangeTorbar if you don't think its a form of expression or that it can't tell a story other than "come take me" watch my marionette belly dance. It tells a story. Also, sex is natural, but it shouldn't be sold. I'm a biology major and I know that, evolutionarily, sex has advantages. But too much is a disadvantage with over population. Its about balance.
My opinion's based on history I've read in books on it. So if it doesn't match yours then I apologize. But don't assume I'm ignorant.
@MayaRaqsTheDance It is a form of expression, but I don't think it can tell a story.
As for overpopulation and sex...well there are condoms, birth control pills... And Also sex is healthy.
Actually I don't believe in most things History books say, or most books at all, I am kind of agnostic for most things I heard in life. If you have some link for belly dance that tells story, send me in inbox, I would love to see something new
@StrangeTorbar Posted. If you can't see the story, then I'd be surprised. If belly dance is expression...and expression is art then belly dance can be art. I treat it as such. That is my style of belly dance. There are countless forms. Not all originate from the same cultures or beliefs. Therefore, there are many reasons for the dance. There is no true and genuine proof of how it started to my knowledge. There are only theories and speculations.
@MayaRaqsTheDance I will see it now, but first respond, expression isn't always art, as for example expression of body and face, mimics etc For me dancing is just beautifull skill and in most places It is part of folklore, something that was part of ceremonies and also way for people to spend some quality time with other people, most of dances are still actually there in order to show strength and agility .Still girls judge men on the way they move for example. So I also think that dance is ...
@MayaRaqsTheDance Very important, even primary, it is very important part of art when combined with acting,singing, and telling a story, It was condition in order to make art possible, because I know that out from ceremonies, came art. And I know that every art uses beautiful skills. But in my opinion,and my opinion only, it has to have something more, some strong message, or brilliant Idea. Something to give you reason to think about.Now to see you dancing
@MayaRaqsTheDance wrong again....this is what fat tribal dancers say to make themselves feel better....do some research....it was started for just plain fun and entertainment for BOTH men and women.
@MayaRaqsTheDance yup in the modern day... its something explicit, some people doesn't know the history of belly dancing so they look at it in the physical aspect.... and looking at the body and the moves make them more sexually attracted to watching it.... not for the fact that belly dancing is an art! a form of celebration... good thing there are people like you who understands what belly dancing is about!!! good onya !
shes not fat. watch belly dancers when they move it looks like they have fat but they're body needs to be that way so it looks right or graceful when they move their body. end of discussion
how can you call her fat??? she is a NATURAL female - no weights or surgeries or starvation. natural female womanly bodies look like hers, and she is nto fat at all. she's feminine. six packs are masculine and not naturally female.
So? there are some very voluptuous belly dancers out there. I don't know who you were watching Shake, but she's not fat. You've got a twisted vision of the word "fat" then, if that's what you think :P.
@DevonRe yup she's healthy and in the belly dancing world bodies varies,,, it can be smaller frame or bigger frame... but in the arab world bigger frame is so beautiful for them.... we wouldn't want to see too much bones would we!?? so nice observation DevonRe
@vodkamilkshake Seriously? You can see her ribs when she moves fyi, that means she's NOT fat And who the hell cares what you think? You probably think women who are sticks and anoexic are sexy People like you give a NATURAL bodies a bad name
READ THE BACK OF HER DRUM SOLO DVD. "Her ancestry drew her to latin styles, flamenco, and Mexican folk. She also trained and performed Polynesian styles before graduating to belly dancing as her major love."
Why are people always comparing Sonie to Sadie? They are different people and different dancers. Why can't we appreciate each person and dancer for what they bring? I personally prefer Sonia, I think you have to see her live to trully appreciate her, but Sadie is very good, I have also have seen her live.
I agree... Their styles are really different anyway. I think Sadie is more earthy than Sonia for one thing, and then if you put Didem in the mix then there you have three totally different dancers who are all amazing. There doesn't have to be a number one in belly dance, and there never will be. It's stupid to try and compare when you get to this level of talent.
yeah , sonia is latin and thats way she is supose to dance better than sadie!! but she's not ... so sadie its more clear and consistent she is a perfect dancer!
Ummm... Yes, that was a shimmy.. Just performed differently... There are two ways of performing a shimmy, one of them is the one she uses and the other is the one you see in tutorial videos whereby it's a fast hip shake...
there wayyy more than 2 ways to perform a shimmy, w/ the glutes, obliques, legs... but a shimmy is a loose big movement a freeze is a small fast vibration like what sonia did, some people however do call it a tension shimmy or a freeze shimmy
there are like hundreds of countries that belly dance.. dont fight over which one does it best okey!!! idk why spanish countries think their the bellydancers.. yall do the bachata or somethin.. arent yall tribal
Her technique has improved tremendously since she started.. good for her! Nice costume too. I still wish her face would show SOMETHING. The ice queen thing is only going to take her so far.. if she learned to EMOTE when she dances, she could be great. But not today..
sounds like J:S: Bach to me
koldusopera 2 weeks ago
an extraordinary dancer. anybody knows where she is now since she left BDSS crew?
zhanata 4 months ago
I have very curly long hair n sexy body n every one loves my erotic belly dance but when i watched sonia !!!!!Wow that's an amazing n sexy belly dancer , I really wished to see her second part when dances faster with a fast beat , she is so gorgeous
MySara999 4 months ago
her hair is AMAZING!!
gamilajoss13 4 months ago
me encanta!! el traje es preciosoooooooo :)
TiKIIish 4 months ago
somebody knows where I can find the complete video`s Sonia!!!?? thanks
6Miroslava 6 months ago
@6Miroslava Hi! I don't think you can find it, because it was a small show and there were no cameras in it, and I just filmed what i could.
Estefania89 5 months ago
Well, I don't believe I've ever seen someone belly dance to organ piano music before. That's definitely... interesting.
Dawn2Dusknback 6 months ago
@Dawn2Dusknback In fact, you can take a look to Saida, a bellydancer from Argentina, who's been dancing for years with The Horus Orchestra. They always play this kind of music. You can listening to Mario Kirlis, it's amazing!
Estefania89 5 months ago
@Estefania89
Mario Kirlis is amazing! He and his orchestra came to Hong Kong last year to perform in the Raqs Hong Kong (Int’l) Belly Dance Festival 2010, it was absolutely wonderful!
SNG7851 5 months ago
Lo miro una y otra vez... me encanta!!!
catarinitasexy 8 months ago
who is the wonderful band?
psychobunny32 8 months ago
@psychobunny32 The Horus Orchestra!
Estefania89 5 months ago
News flash for those talking about matriarchal societies: There were none. If it can be traced back to Margaret Murray's (debunked) theories, then it's not a reliable source. Murray was an Egyptologist, not an anthropologist, and she jumped to conclusions so many times it's a wonder she didn't get whiplash. That being said, bellydance is a wonderful celebration of womanhood. You don't need an imaginary matriarchal society to appreciate that.
WhoTookMyMirr 8 months ago
thats cool
Akufyghs 9 months ago
Nice and heart-felt...
mariekitu 10 months ago
I Was Distracted By Her Stomach:/
kukhoes 10 months ago 2
I really like the music
thebryannabanana 10 months ago
nice to see a dancer who is not skinny.
Tina593 1 year ago 2
You have a beautiful belly and navel, delicious curves. Love the cossy.
MrDayday58 1 year ago 2
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I thought I was watching a belly DANCE, not belly and back fat ROLLS.
johnbp78130 1 year ago
@johnbp78130 You are watching BELLY dance, not anorexic-see-your-ribs dance. Get a clue.
lisalrocks 1 year ago 6
@lisalrocks You are so right - real women have curves!!
MyPenman 5 months ago
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she needs to tone up XD
Syuni2Kiss 1 year ago
@Syuni2Kiss actually you are wrong she has a perfect body for BELLY dance, shut up
0MissMaria0 1 year ago 4
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@0MissMaria0 Calmate
Calm down! lol I'm not here to call people names, be realistic & sincere, she does need to tone up a bit. :p
Syuni2Kiss 1 year ago
私は彼女が大好きです。
最近の女性は痩せ過ぎて「どうだー」という感じで見た目だけで色気が無いのですが、
彼女はまず綺麗だし、肉欲というか太めだからこそ生々しさがあり素敵なのです。
自分で太めなのをちょっと恥じらいを気にしながら踊る姿に精神的な色気も併せて感じることができます。
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Zadiel82 1 year ago
hooooooooooof sho ebt5zyyyyyyy
DoniaElazab 1 year ago
The song is "chik chak chok"
cara230 1 year ago
wonderfull dancer wonderfull woman. healthy and no fat! who says she is fat has a duble vision. she is perfect! the music? may be Bach or something similar...what's a pity the interruption....
claudiacal 1 year ago
BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KimmyHEARTSx33 1 year ago
She's totally dancing out of the musik or is it my eye?
ymbriafiona 1 year ago
gorda? pero dnde esta gorda? vaya superficiales k ai por aki
asi acabeis enamroados asta las trancas de una mujer de 200 kilos
salamalachala 1 year ago
Que estupidez que por encontrarla "gorda" comparen a esta bailarina con otras... no saben acaso que en el medio oriente las mujeres tienen que ser rellenitas para ser atractivas?
SussiDiaz 1 year ago
@SussiDiaz jejejeje, has visto a didem kinali una bailarina turca, la mejor, no es para nada gorda pero es preciosa y muyyyyyyy buena en su trabajo
NOCOBE 1 year ago
Beautiful dander, beautiful moves. Every dancer has their own style but Sonia has finesse and not all bellydancers can say that. By the way if anyone doesn't like this music nor this style of dance then maybe they shouldn't sit there and watch it and then insult all those who do like it, that just shows how ignorant some people are.
sunnyrosa 1 year ago
Sadie and Sonia have very different styles: Sadie KILLS the drum solo, she can't be touched, but Sonia is very good at the slower, sensual stuff - it may be part of her personality
396M 1 year ago
Beautíful costume! WOOOOW
cinty12 1 year ago
again, this lady is nothing compared to Sadie
Fujcake 1 year ago
:O This woman has a body and bellydances very similar to me... i'm flashed o.o
LemonScissors 1 year ago
Yo no entiendo porque ustedes se pelean tanto; "que si a alguno le parece que Sonia se vé gorda, que si no lo es, que si Sadie es mejor ó no", creo que lo importante es lo que cada quien puede compartir y aprender del otro, recuerden que en la Danza Oriental ó Bellydance, no existen pasos ni bailarinas perfectas, hay bailarinas con pasión, amor al arte, pero sobre todo haciendo lo que les gusta, cada bailarina tiene su propio estilo, hay que ser tolerantes; saludos a tod@s!!
mayibellydancer 1 year ago 2
I do not understand why you are fighting so much, "that if any of you think that Sonia looks fat , if not, that if Sadie is better or not," I think the important thing is that everyone can share and learn from the other, remember that in Oriental Dance or Bellydance, there are no steps or perfect dancers, there are dancers with passion and love of art ; but mostly doing what they like, each dancer has their own style, we must be tolerant , greetings to all, God bless you always!!
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shit music shit dance u suck its nothing special ya gay whore :P
rukzrox 1 year ago
her hair is so pretty
atu1smo 1 year ago
I adore that costume...
glamournurse 1 year ago
quien dijo k era gorda por Dios???... lo que esta es bienn... :)
leylasc92 1 year ago
ez una odalizca.!
zophiee17 1 year ago
taxim y baladi by horus arab music, i guess...
miffylove 1 year ago
more like arm dancing.
KimmyHEARTSx33 1 year ago
@KimmyHEARTSx33 Sometimes for tuxsim it's nice to incorporate a lot of arm work and really quiet body work so to not overload the audience with information. If you throw out all your tricks and all of your stomach/hip work in one dance then you'll have nothing left for other dances and people won't find you interesting because hey, you've seen every single move you can do already. I thought her dancing was nice. Simple and elegant.
glamournurse 1 year ago
يـــع
6allal 1 year ago
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Wow.....She sucks.
IsAyiThOwITiSs 1 year ago
LIIIIINDA.... se vier para o Brasil me liga....
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MOF19751 1 year ago
oh this video is too dark. sonia is so beautiful on live shows, much more beautiful than on this one.
susanhsue 1 year ago
not as good as sadie
THEMJLOVER111 1 year ago
لطيفة الحمار
PAREDESUFRIR 1 year ago
Thank you! MayaRaqsTheDance is right! finally someone with knowledge of belly dacing! But the only thing is that they weren't allowed to shoe skin. They had layers and layers of clothes so hip movements and whatnot had to be more drastic.
loser55poser66 1 year ago
name of the song , please
VeraVoile 1 year ago 2
@VeraVoile sorry, i don't know the name of the song :S
Estefania89 1 year ago
@VeraVoile it is Taxim and baladi also known as baladi Fairuz
leylaziza 1 year ago
@VeraVoile es el baladi de armen kusikian con fairuz
amarabellydance1 1 year ago
@VeraVoile La cancion se llama "Taxim y baladi", y es de la orquesta "horus arab music" :) Esta en el cd "Ruh el alma en escena"
mahaila15 9 months ago
@VeraVoile La cancion se llama "Taxim y baladi", y es de la orquesta "horus arab music" :) Esta en el cd "Ruh el alma en escena"
mahaila15 9 months ago
@VeraVoile
If I am not mistaken, it "bladi AMIR THALEB - Pista 10". Look on sites under this name
ksumamoto 8 months ago
@VeraVoile If I am not mistaken, it "bladi AMIR THALEB - Pista 10". Look on sites under this name
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@VeraVoile
If I am not mistaken, it "bladi AMIR THALEB - Pista 10". Look on sites under this name
ksumamoto 8 months ago
@VeraVoile shik shak shok slow version....
gorgeousrider 6 months ago
@VeraVoile search like "taxim y baladi amir thaleb1387"
quiquividal 6 months ago
@VeraVoile I think it´s Little Baladi o something like that from Mario Kirlis...
MissPitulina 6 months ago
q buena vibracioooOOn ii shimi egipCio
odell3belly 1 year ago
hibhibhibhib mass
MrsxJoker 1 year ago
love her
MaryBellyDance1 1 year ago
nice art
jagubadsha1983 1 year ago
bally means chutar dance hahhahaha
nightlightnightlight 2 years ago
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zilzaal1 2 years ago
pretty costume & lovely dancing
DeadlyObsession18 2 years ago 3
Agree! I love the colors and her moves!
ElleLarissa 2 years ago 5
Same here!
hypnodance 2 years ago
bailarinas asii me gustan .. lastima q el video dura poco exelentee
MegaTania22 2 years ago
Shunu Ta'arfoon? Intoom Arabyen?? Ma Ta'arfoon ey shi!
slumlumm 2 years ago
excellent shimmi
odell3belly 2 years ago
wow i love her costume. It's soooo beautiful
Kishaa721 2 years ago
que bonito cabelloo!O.O baila bien
Shikdance04 2 years ago
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Sonia is tied with Ansuya & Rachel Brice as my favorite all time bally dance mastubarory facilitators.
cleaverzl 2 years ago
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Is it normal to get an erection when I watch this?! LOL
ny718bx 2 years ago
Yes, it is.... Bellydance is initially meant to be a seductive dance so yeah.... It's perfectly normal for you to feel that way... LOL
mus1192 2 years ago
I hate to be one of those people who corrects others, but belly dance originated as a dance for women, not men. It was used to ease the pain of child birth and as a celebration of womanhood. Only in more modern culture is it viewed (wrongly if I might add) as something sexual.
MayaRaqsTheDance 2 years ago 118
Well.... Not literally to ease childbirth... But yeah, the flexibility in it....
Its origins were for those purposes but it transformed (Before reaching the west) into a sexual dance..... A lot of the moves are seductive and were initiated during the western occupation of eastern countries whereby the officials of the western government were entertained by a harem of women by bellydancing....
=D
mus1192 2 years ago 2
There is actually no evidence that it was originated in this way. In egypt sex was sacred, and there are many paintings depicting naked dances by women. We see sex as sleazy -b ut they did not back then and so it was not seen as bad to be seductive and sensual. We can only theorize on how the dance came about as it has evolved and changed endlessly. The dance as we know it now comes mostly out out of the Orientalist movement and is a fantasy - a beautiful fantasy too.
alittlebitofperil 2 years ago 7
Probably only during the time of a matriarchal society would this kind of dance have been revered for what it really means. I really long for that to come back....seriously over the male dominated view of female sensuality and sexuality. This is beautiful...
Powerful. Amazing.
Kayenne54 1 year ago 15
@Kayenne54
I could not have said it better myself. I think the tides are shifting though, there will be a equal balance soon, for sure.
DianaBanana1775 8 months ago
@Kayenne54 isn t it obvious for everyone in the western world that it is dominated by women (and faggots) only who turn their kids to total garbage ? When do you live ? in the 1930s?
grsummer 7 months ago
@Kayenne54 Belly dance is very prevalent in the Arab world, esp. in Egypt where 1/3rd of women can belly dance. Just because they do it away from cameras and men doesn't mean that they can't dance. I hate when people make assumptions without any evidence. Are you suggesting that Arab society was at one time matriarchal and that it was possible to see open displays of belly dance? Show your proof please. I for one am proud to say that our society has always maintained its honour and dignity.
YumiOfLyoko 5 months ago
@MayaRaqsTheDance, EXACTLY! Its always misunderstood as this 'Harem Shuffle', that was performed only for men, prior to sex, and it pisses me off immensly that people dont know that massage and belly movements were used to manage menstrual cramps and dancing was a stress reliever and a form of bonding and expression in a severely male dominated environment. In many ways the tradition was kept going like that of the shackled Africans in the Americas, to keep body and soul together.
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@MayaRaqsTheDance I hate to be one of those people who corrects others, but belly dance originated as a social dance for both women and men. It was used to ease the pain of a stressful societal pressure and as a celebration of life and existence. Only in more modern culture is it viewed (wrongly if I might add) as a purely feminine art of 'finding your inner goddess'. all turks and arabs find it hilarious when the art of M.E dance is 'sold' and packaged with theses silly commercial slogans.
arabique 1 year ago
@MayaRaqsTheDance yes and i'll add that before even fat womens were belly dancing and it might be like that now , i'm not anorexic or skinny and i do belly dance.
CloMissDucky 1 year ago
@MayaRaqsTheDance haha you know nothing about this dance!!! read this - and you will know that male bellydancers have a long tradition! Zadiel.de and than artikel in the new york times!
ZadielTV 1 year ago
@ZadielTV I never said men don't belly dance. We actually have 3 in our troupe. Don't assume that I don't know that because I didn't write it.
MayaRaqsTheDance 1 year ago 2
@MayaRaqsTheDance I also hate to be one of those people who correct others, but belly dance was always and will always be sexual. Do you think celebration of womanhood has nothing to do with fertility? and fertility has nothing to do with sexuality. Everyone knows how babies are made. And usually after that dance women had sex, read old Arab tales and you will see. And of course sexuality is connected to childbirth. Don't be in denial. and for conclusion, sexual is not bad, it is natural.
StrangeTorbar 1 year ago
@StrangeTorbar I never said the two were not connected. But there is a difference between being elegant about it and being scandalously skanky and promiscuous. I think maybe you are obsessed with sex. I checked out your profile and it seems that most of your comments are about that particular subject. Don't hate on me because I think belly dance should be performed in a classy (not trashy) manner. Sonia pulls it off beautifully.
MayaRaqsTheDance 1 year ago
@MayaRaqsTheDance I am not talking about promiscuous behavior(whatever that means), just what I know from history, that on that celebrations of womanhood, in temples they were doing belly dancing until reaching trance and then they had sex. At that time it was normal, and they were considered as almost goddesses. I am talking about time before monotheism. I've seen better dances than this girl in my Arab family. I didn't hate on you, I just corrected you, and you are offended.
StrangeTorbar 1 year ago
@MayaRaqsTheDance And as for the profile, I made it an hour ago, so you didn't have much to check. I made comments because I hate when I see that people are against natural, and sex is natural, nothing to be obsessed with. Also I am a married young girl, and yes I enjoy having sex with my husband, nothing scandalous about it. I don't see belly dancing as art, because it was never art, it was part of ceremony and later entertainment. So for fun, girls should dance however they can.
StrangeTorbar 1 year ago
@MayaRaqsTheDance because real art should have message, as theater for example, but not any theater, for example Bertolt Brecht's theater is the greatest for me. Ok maybe belly dance has message but not artistic one, It's original message is: ,,look at me, I am fertile, come and take me''. and today it looks nice and is flirty, and belly dancer is flirting with those who are watching her, and In my family case, message is stand up girls, let's have fun and joy together.
StrangeTorbar 1 year ago
@StrangeTorbar if you don't think its a form of expression or that it can't tell a story other than "come take me" watch my marionette belly dance. It tells a story. Also, sex is natural, but it shouldn't be sold. I'm a biology major and I know that, evolutionarily, sex has advantages. But too much is a disadvantage with over population. Its about balance.
My opinion's based on history I've read in books on it. So if it doesn't match yours then I apologize. But don't assume I'm ignorant.
MayaRaqsTheDance 1 year ago
@MayaRaqsTheDance It is a form of expression, but I don't think it can tell a story.
As for overpopulation and sex...well there are condoms, birth control pills... And Also sex is healthy.
Actually I don't believe in most things History books say, or most books at all, I am kind of agnostic for most things I heard in life. If you have some link for belly dance that tells story, send me in inbox, I would love to see something new
StrangeTorbar 1 year ago
@StrangeTorbar Posted. If you can't see the story, then I'd be surprised. If belly dance is expression...and expression is art then belly dance can be art. I treat it as such. That is my style of belly dance. There are countless forms. Not all originate from the same cultures or beliefs. Therefore, there are many reasons for the dance. There is no true and genuine proof of how it started to my knowledge. There are only theories and speculations.
MayaRaqsTheDance 1 year ago
@MayaRaqsTheDance I will see it now, but first respond, expression isn't always art, as for example expression of body and face, mimics etc For me dancing is just beautifull skill and in most places It is part of folklore, something that was part of ceremonies and also way for people to spend some quality time with other people, most of dances are still actually there in order to show strength and agility .Still girls judge men on the way they move for example. So I also think that dance is ...
StrangeTorbar 1 year ago
@MayaRaqsTheDance Very important, even primary, it is very important part of art when combined with acting,singing, and telling a story, It was condition in order to make art possible, because I know that out from ceremonies, came art. And I know that every art uses beautiful skills. But in my opinion,and my opinion only, it has to have something more, some strong message, or brilliant Idea. Something to give you reason to think about.Now to see you dancing
I enjoyed this conversation at the end
StrangeTorbar 1 year ago
@MayaRaqsTheDance wrong again....this is what fat tribal dancers say to make themselves feel better....do some research....it was started for just plain fun and entertainment for BOTH men and women.
bj27filly 1 year ago
@bj27filly You, my friend, are ignorant. Provide a vetted source for your claim or refrain from posting.
MayaRaqsTheDance 1 year ago 2
@MayaRaqsTheDance yup in the modern day... its something explicit, some people doesn't know the history of belly dancing so they look at it in the physical aspect.... and looking at the body and the moves make them more sexually attracted to watching it.... not for the fact that belly dancing is an art! a form of celebration... good thing there are people like you who understands what belly dancing is about!!! good onya !
madameremz68 1 year ago 2
@MayaRaqsTheDance Finally someone who knows....thank you.
Nisha6904 1 year ago
@MayaRaqsTheDance that right! is noy sexual ! respect dance of other country stupid people -.- think is sexual ahha i think is insulting
MalikaNunn 10 months ago
@MayaRaqsTheDance Sexuality is all about the celebration of gender differences. :P But I do agree that it is OVERsexualised by modern culture.
Statuess 9 months ago
nice
Zadiel82 2 years ago
in which dvd can i find this performance?
SaidiStyle 2 years ago
baila bien , pero me da la imprecion de que adelanta mucho los pasos , algunos estaban fuera de tiempo
EPINUSPRODUCTIONS 2 years ago 3
Luv the outfit!!!!!!
Cutelilminxa444 2 years ago
shes rele good but a bit stiff in some of the moves
sugarlaura22 2 years ago 2
I've seen some of Sonia's work before and she did much better then. This performance is boring. what a shame.
surferwife1960 2 years ago
Sonia always had been boring.
jevitigre 2 years ago 5
irts so borning
mahmome 2 years ago
Oh ! what a curve.
sabsiddiqui 2 years ago
You remind me of Uma Thurman playing Poison Ivy in that Batman movie. (;D)
belliedbabe79 2 years ago
You are AMAZING! Your armwork has me taking notes. Definitely am a fan:)
louiseduvee 2 years ago
She's so gorgeous! I love her hair.
dimethicone5 2 years ago
shes not fat. watch belly dancers when they move it looks like they have fat but they're body needs to be that way so it looks right or graceful when they move their body. end of discussion
motoko241 2 years ago 2
your not a good belly dancer sadie is she is the best iv sen ever so haa
as160494 2 years ago
why must you judge her? Her dance is a beautiful gift to the world, as is Sadie's. Both are unique and wonderful.
alabaster24 2 years ago 3
Really beautiful woman in all aspects and excellent raqs dancer. 5 Stars.
justthefacts1234 2 years ago 4
No way she is definitely NOT fat at all !!!! gosh if all women had her body surgeons would be outta work !
FaeryAnnie 2 years ago 3
how can you call her fat??? she is a NATURAL female - no weights or surgeries or starvation. natural female womanly bodies look like hers, and she is nto fat at all. she's feminine. six packs are masculine and not naturally female.
joanofarcxxi 2 years ago 6
ahora las gordas no pueden bailar? que onda?
Estefania89 2 years ago 4
So? there are some very voluptuous belly dancers out there. I don't know who you were watching Shake, but she's not fat. You've got a twisted vision of the word "fat" then, if that's what you think :P.
IcarusCray88 2 years ago 4
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she's fat
vodkamilkshake 2 years ago
shes so skinny if you see her in normal clothing
almost anorexic looking
jade401 2 years ago
all of the BDSS are really thin in normal clothes. you should see them in the documentary 'american bellydancer.'
elfinsox 2 years ago
she's not thin, she's healthy
DevonRe 2 years ago 34
@DevonRe no kidding.... i'm about the same dimensions and i'm not.. uhh.. fat.
what wrong with people?
hookdonsaffronics 1 year ago 2
@DevonRe yup she's healthy and in the belly dancing world bodies varies,,, it can be smaller frame or bigger frame... but in the arab world bigger frame is so beautiful for them.... we wouldn't want to see too much bones would we!?? so nice observation DevonRe
madameremz68 1 year ago
@vodkamilkshake Seriously? You can see her ribs when she moves fyi, that means she's NOT fat And who the hell cares what you think? You probably think women who are sticks and anoexic are sexy People like you give a NATURAL bodies a bad name
z90OoAluYsioNoO09z 1 year ago
Not bad, but that has to be the worst belly dancing outfit I've ever seen.
mybelle18 2 years ago
wow sadie is WAAAYYYYYY better
nastya222 2 years ago
sonia ist fantastic.her dance,charm,beauty. i like her moves and style
mehmedefendi 2 years ago 2
god damn so graceful!
frichikendz 3 years ago
She's from Mexico but her dancig is hawaian and arabic...
Claytonfemale 3 years ago
yh oaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
tara0danielle 3 years ago
She is not latin, lol she's hawaiian. She has a really pretty way of expressing with hands have you noticed? That's because of her hawaiin roots.
burningdollparts 3 years ago
She is latin, but has a background in polynesian dance, along with mexican and flamenco.
yayitsjulie422 3 years ago
Mexican Flamenco? :o I thought that was only a Spanish thing.
MoodyCupcake 2 years ago
Flamenco is "a spanish thing". That's why I said Mexican (folk) AND flamenco. Both styles...
yayitsjulie422 2 years ago 2
READ THE BACK OF HER DRUM SOLO DVD. "Her ancestry drew her to latin styles, flamenco, and Mexican folk. She also trained and performed Polynesian styles before graduating to belly dancing as her major love."
yayitsjulie422 2 years ago 2
i've seen better
Cheyennerd 3 years ago
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hmmm g string would be better, infact i'd do her on a dubai beach.
bally28 3 years ago
Yeah, but the problem is she wouldn't do you. Imbecile.
fokiralomgir 3 years ago 3
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i'm sorry, but she's terrible.
wowwimgay 3 years ago
Why are people always comparing Sonie to Sadie? They are different people and different dancers. Why can't we appreciate each person and dancer for what they bring? I personally prefer Sonia, I think you have to see her live to trully appreciate her, but Sadie is very good, I have also have seen her live.
jennifermakhoul 3 years ago 7
I agree... Their styles are really different anyway. I think Sadie is more earthy than Sonia for one thing, and then if you put Didem in the mix then there you have three totally different dancers who are all amazing. There doesn't have to be a number one in belly dance, and there never will be. It's stupid to try and compare when you get to this level of talent.
jmjackson3755 3 years ago 8
i dont know where this sonia sadie thing came from
it came out of nowhere
apples and oranges
they are so different!!!!!
i prefer sonia too but i can accept that sadie has more technical skill maybe she has been dancing longer
but they're so different
jade401 2 years ago 3
cool i prefer sadie but they are so different i don't think they can even be compared!!
They both are good, it's not about technique but i think styles
DevonRe 2 years ago
yeah , sonia is latin and thats way she is supose to dance better than sadie!! but she's not ... so sadie its more clear and consistent she is a perfect dancer!
canelakatz 3 years ago
i went to see bellydance superstars a couple of weeks ago, she has gotten so much skinnier! and a lot better.
EllYouSeeWhy 3 years ago
el shimi me impacto! lo demas siempre igual! :P me gusta mas como bailo en el dvd
sandrabellydance 3 years ago
et c'est juste l'intro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MISSLYND 3 years ago
I like her style and hair
misswishstorm 3 years ago
Excellent shimmy.
osu111 3 years ago 3
i think was technically a hip freeze not a shimmy
jade401 2 years ago
Ummm... Yes, that was a shimmy.. Just performed differently... There are two ways of performing a shimmy, one of them is the one she uses and the other is the one you see in tutorial videos whereby it's a fast hip shake...
mus1192 2 years ago
there wayyy more than 2 ways to perform a shimmy, w/ the glutes, obliques, legs... but a shimmy is a loose big movement a freeze is a small fast vibration like what sonia did, some people however do call it a tension shimmy or a freeze shimmy
jade401 2 years ago
Thanks jade... That's something new I've learnt... =D
Seems like I need to do more in-depth reading to a achieve a better insight... =)
Thank you very much! :)
mus1192 2 years ago
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there are 20 different kinds of shimmy
liviq 2 years ago
there are like hundreds of countries that belly dance.. dont fight over which one does it best okey!!! idk why spanish countries think their the bellydancers.. yall do the bachata or somethin.. arent yall tribal
sweetnsour354 3 years ago
Her technique has improved tremendously since she started.. good for her! Nice costume too. I still wish her face would show SOMETHING. The ice queen thing is only going to take her so far.. if she learned to EMOTE when she dances, she could be great. But not today..
Fatem009 3 years ago 3
What's with the funeral music???..Lol
Beautiful121389 3 years ago 4
Wow, I love her shimmy!
Nezeo 3 years ago