Advanced Ninjutsu Techniques : Ninjutsu Thumb Choke Technique

[judorican973]

Lmao!!!'n

[safwath01]

did u guys notice the guy always uses her in every video

[black5corpion76]

Man u make ninjutsu look bad ...u should close ur wack school ... fake sensi... contact me if u really want to learn ninjutsu

[johnx1974]

@Cthuthul Bujinkan Ninjutsu is a version adapted to the modern world. And that what Massaki teachers the special police force in japan. Koga Ryu is thought to be more traditional as far as I know.

[Arteanor]

@johnx1974

"Bujinkan Ninjutsu"

these 2 words dont belong together, there is no ninjutsu in the bujinkan.

" is a version adapted to the modern world."

you mean ' was created by takamatsu in/for the modern world.'

" And that what Massaki teachers the special police force in japan."

this is an outright lie. no such force exists as trained by hatsumi.

" Koga Ryu is thought to be more traditional as far as I know."

koka ryu is dead. only simpletons believe the claims by fake ninjutsu masters.

[Cthuthul]

guys. How old is ninjutsu? very old.

How many senseis ? very much.

How many guys, thought they do ninjutsu and teached everyone else "wrong" ninjustsu? Veeery much.

SO guys, there is NO form of traditional Ninjutsu. Except, if you train in the badlands of Japan. Maybe.

[s3nsesay]

very bad technique... to far away from opponent to offer enough force, good job she is a girl and going along with the choreography....



[MMFrostMM]

...and then,i'm gonna chocke that bitch

[radonma]

Ninjustu is a load of wank and anyone who practices it is a fucking gaylord!!

[KankuPitbull]

Please, just stop this , omg ! Please ???!!

[PalebobUK]

Utter bullshit!

[xverxverxverga]

is you want to take an opponent down, wouldn't be easier to use a double leg take down? just wondering

[lcillusionist10]

@xverxverxverga not saying this video is an example of grat martial arts, but remember they're training for a street fight, not mma, and wouldnt you think tackling someone in a street fight is a good way to end up on the ground getting stomped by his buddys? just wondering

[xverxverxverga]

@lcillusionist10 Illusionist, just keep living in your illusion. The guy didn't say anything about multiple attackers, you just brought this up.

Besides, I survived a street fight, they were la 10 against a friend and me. All I did was start taking people down, and worked wonderfully. Of course I didn't beat anyone up, I didn't go to the floor, but I could escape from that bar. I believe this would work a lot better than this technique, which aint sure would work to anyone with brains.

[lcillusionist10]

@xverxverxverga okay anytime you are training anything, you should be thinking about whats going on around you, or what IS going to be around you in a real fight. Even against one attacker doesn't it seem better to stay on your feet than go crashing to the concrete with a big tackle? Go train double leg take-downs on the sidewalk, bet it feels wonderful. Again, I didn't give the guy in this video any credit. Oh, and tackling kids with your buddy in the playground doesn't count as a street fight.

[xverxverxverga]

@lcillusionist10 Whatever man, I m a professional fighter, Those weren't kids, and I feel that for no reason you are becoming disrespectfull to me, and started to assume things that as always, have to do with you more than with me.

This technique seems to me hard to apply in a real life situation, even for an experimented guy. You have to expect that the opponent will do nothing so this can work, you know?, You seem like you like martial arts, lack of experience in fighting, sorry :(

[lcillusionist10]

@xverxverxverga hahahahahahaha you're as much of a professional fighter as everyone else that spends all their time on youtube. And once again I didn't mean to give this guy or his technique credit, I meant to laugh at your own. Were the 10 kids what qualified you as a self proclaimed PROFESSIONAL. ahahahahaha your a joke, say what you will, you've discredited yourself more than I ever could.

[punyo4u]

I have been training like this for a few months now and i feel like a real ninja! Im unstopable!

[radonma]

@punyo4u hahahahaha :)

[Creationsofmyown]

ya thats right bich... cry your little eyes out... then throw some names.... your argument is so legit .

[THEPIELORD42]

and yours is more legit? your telling me masters who were trained in ninjitsu by ninjas know less then you someone who was never trained in any martial art but supposedly reads "scrolls" that the ninja were spys and as you say soldiers that have no fighting style but even self trained hitman in modern society have their own fighting style an as a matter fact any spyor solider in history has a fuckin fighting style yet you claim the most famous warrior in history had no fighting style bullshit

[Arteanor]

since my claims have evidence,  are backed by legitimate experts who actually KNOW the state of affairs for the periods of history we are talking about...

you keep misunderstanding... let me make this perfectly clear.

REAL NINJA, FUJITA SEIKO IS THE REASON FOR THE POSITION OF THE EXPERTS

that isnt to say they didnt fight, didnt have a fighting style, or didnt have combat training... JUST THAT IT @@ WASN'T @@ PART OF NINJUTSU.

its an entirely different set of skills...

go learn..

[amoniuemilio]

hahahahahhahahahahaha

bhuahahahahahhahahaaa

if you try this on me i'm gonna break everything inside of you fake ninjutsu teacher!

hahahahahahhaa

[citizensnips1134]

so your argument is that if it's not ninjutsu on paper, it's not Ninjutsu? I mean, they are the same stances and movements, for the most part.

Or are you arguing that for it to be ninjutsu you have to be learning all the techniques involved (Taijutsu, Kenjutsu, Shinobi-iri, etc.)

[Creationsofmyown]

uh... not that it isnt on paper...

that it isnt even what ninjutsu is...

why do people always assume that ninjutsu must be a martial art? it never was, and the historical record backs that up... ah but the techniques of hiding undisturbed and unnoticed for 3 days is significantly less marketable than mashing aiki, koppo and jiujutsu and calling it ninjutsu.

[KERVERAS]

get a life...i dont need to prove anythink to you or to argue with you...

[THEPIELORD42]

ninjitsu IS a martial art it is made up of 7 different sections a few sections are knife techniques short/long staff techniques and of course hand to hand combat techniques i believe your confusing ninjas and ninjitsu which are two sepreate things for instance there are no real schools who teach you how to be a ninja as far as hiring you to spy on / kill there enemys but there are schools that teach you the same martial art skills the ninja used which of course s NINJITSU

[Creationsofmyown]

see this is how i know your full of shit... the assassin image is all hollywood dude... gratz on showing you know so little on the topic..

the only people who claim ninjutsu to be a martial art are frauds, who cannot hope to replicate REAL espionage techniques... and therefore teach a mishmash of martial arts... sustainedreaction. yuku. com /topic/5540

i think thats a pretty reasonable sequence of events...

if im wrong, why do the scrolls never mention a single martial technique?

[THEPIELORD42]

okay you know ninjas were real right? yes or no thats all i need

[Arteanor]

yes of cours... otherwise it wouldnt make much sense to quote from authenticated ninja scrolls... or of authenticated ninja like Seiko Fujita.

but anyone who reads this can clearly see that i never said they werent,... i also never said that togakure ryu never existed... i simply said that takamatsu didnt know ninjutsu, he used the name as a means of marketing his martial skills learned in his travels...

i suggest you read that link

[THEPIELORD42]

i wasnt fucking talking to you needle dick

[computron808]

@Arteanor Who did takamatsu market nin-jutsu 2?He didn`t any outsiders meaning non japanese.When takamatsu sensei passed away his neighbors didn`t no he was ninja.He didn`t going around sayin he was a ninja.Where did u hear that?He was also a assassin for the japanese government.N he wasn`t suppose 2come back2japan.So he lived undetected for the remainder of his life.The government thought he was dead all of those years.This sumthin ur not gonna find in a book.Itz trasmited from teacher2student.

[Arteanor]

@computron808

"Who did takamatsu market nin-jutsu 2?"

ever heard of HATSUMI! and besides, i'm simply quoting my source. which IS takamatsu's own words in a letter to his school, (kukishen) btw he didn't ever mention toda for years after he decided to use togakure ryu

"He didn`t any outsiders meaning non japanese."

who said anything about nonjapanese? certainly not me...

"He didn`t going around sayin he was a ninja"

are you batshit crazy or something ever watch Shinobi?he sourced it. baka

[computron808]

@Arteanor So what Takamatsu made alot of $off of hatsumi marketing nin-jutsu 2 him?I said Takamatsu didn`t go around sayin he was a ninja.So he wasn`t tryin2make this a big thing.So ur marketing comment has meaning.N takamatsu didn`t want2teach non japanese people.Actually I think I read it in a Steven hayes book where Hatsumi was tellin Steve that Takamatsu woodn`t teach him.Have u ever trained wit a good bujinkan teacher?I`ve trained in other japanese arts.N they don`t feel like nin-jutsu does

[Arteanor]

@computron808

"So ur marketing comment has meaning" except i haven't made a comment about marketing... i did however tell you that TAKAMATSU SAID IT... if you want to argue with someone about it, go ask him.... i also told you where you can find where he did...

'Have u ever trained wit a good bujinkan teacher?'

what difference does that make? ah NOTHING. it STILL doesn't make it ninjutsu...

GO LEARN....

"I`ve trained in other japanese arts.N they don`t feel like nin-jutsu does"

finish that

[computron808]

@Arteanor For instance when ur having a technique done 2u.U don`t feel it till it`s to late.There`s no information given by the person doin the waza.It`s all about deception.Or it looks like ur opponent is in range to hit.But really their not.Cause of the angel n the way that they r standing n they r positioned 2 u.If u haven`t felt it u won`t understand.

[Arteanor]

@computron808

"This sumthin ur not gonna find in a book.Itz trasmited from teacher2student."

but we CAN learn what the shinobi were taught is ninjutsu... and since it bears no resemblance to what is being claimed to be ninjutsu by hatsumi/takamatsu, ( which are absent of these techniques)

if you have ANY interest in ninja... you really should go and read the copies of these scrolls.. they are on the genbukan run site ninpo org, don't you trust their translation???

[computron808]

@Arteanor So u believe the genbukan but not hatsumi?Tanemura was student of Hatsumi.So I don`t understand what ur sayin.N there`z nothing that u can say that will make me not believe Hatsumi isn`t what he says he is.I`m like a christian that has proof of evolution rite in fron t of his face.But I won`t believe it.LOL

[tkbomber]

@Arteanor Shut up and train.

[KERVERAS]

well i can agree more with you linkchart04!!!....i was trained ninjutsu,boxing for a while and now i am trying wing chun..is all about the person who trained and not the art...All the arts are good if you train a lot and adapt it in real situations ignoring theoretic approaches but adapt it in real life in practical and simple meaning....!!! ninjutsu is great !!!

[Creationsofmyown]

"all arts are good"

even ones that are made up?

i dont see how your going to adapt something taught to you by ashida kim to combat,.... what makes hatsumi any different??

your not learning ninjutsu...

its just jujutsu some aiki with a splash of ninja glitz to sell to americans...

therefore your proclamation of " ninjutsu is great" is a little undereducated..

[sigmacombatsystems]

Somewhat true. Its more Jiujitsu with karate, but as for ninja glitz very true...most of what we know of ninjas was made up by various media sources through the last 50 years or so. The word ninja was first used in what 1930 or something like that? The term shinobi no mano was the excepted term and was used more to describe people that did espionage, thievery, and assassination for hire under similar methods not some secret society or warriors. But that sells at the movies.

[Creationsofmyown]

i will correct, koppo, some aiki (we have all seen hatsumi showing off by having his students uekemi left right and center. ) and of course the jujutsu. we know takamatsu wasnt totally bs, nobody is contesting that he knows the other ryu, just that the ryu he taugh hatsumi arent ninjutsu

[KERVERAS]

hello sir....with all the respect you dont know what i study and how i study so you can 't judge me for the quality of ninjutsu i ve been taught....i respect your saying that i am undereducated because to study ninjutsu you need a lifetime and i am young yet...and i will repeat that all arts are good if train with passion....and you know what is the most important ...RESPECT and TRAINING this is what makes you a good fighter...thanx again

[Creationsofmyown]

"judge me for the quality of ninjutsu i ve been taught"

why sure i can, watch me.

and i dont care where you learned it. if it wasnt from a legitimized practitioner( if you know one, name them)

then it isnt worth even looking up,

wanna know the easy method of discerning if your "ninjutsu" is a historical legitimate school ( and therefor can be honestly called ninjutsu) ??

if it is a martial art, its a definite no.

go read the scrolls... or wathc the shinobi soldiers series on youtube.

[THEPIELORD42]

ok do you believe these assasins/spys/mercenarys had a fighting style to protect themselves / kill?

[Creationsofmyown]

no non no... not "assassins/spys/mercs" just SPIES. thats IT.

did they fight? of course they did, they are still soldiers, i suspect a combination not unlike what the buj offers but that would also be a good basis for any soldier... THATS another major hurdle in the discussion, it IS a good system. but that doesnt mean it is what he says it is.. did they have their own fighting STYLE? almost definitely not... considering how much we know of them from found scrolls ...

[linkchart04]

u can adapt any martial art to a real life situation

if u practice martial arts of anykind and get into a fight u know habit alone will apply it to real life

its al about skill knowledge and strength

thats what sets the untrained away from the trained

the weak from the strong........ *yosh

[westontwo2]

lol. real life value? people dont fight jujitsu in real life. try Krav Maga.

[RockingTheFro]

yeah i know this would never help

but krav maga, thats a different story

[kkkmankkk]

please, some ninjutsu vs brazilian jiu jitsu to test the real life value

[Creationsofmyown]

bujinkan= made up in the 20th century...

BJJ = Basically just judo.

fortunately the bjj is based off of real budo, so i would stick with that,....

there are no living practitioners of ninjutsu, the last was Seiko Fujita, he died over 40 years ago and chose to not pass on his skills,... he was also authenticated by the koryu societies, namely the Nihon Kobudo Shinkokai...

isnt it odd that this fool's teacher was denied because his lineage linking him to feudal era is made up?

[RajDrummer1]

Why does it sound like he says Boojeekan? lol

[ATMmoneymaker]

Yea

if u practice u should be able to do it fast enough and there is always a back-up plan.each move is backed up by another move if things don't go as planned and when ppl get choked their 1st reaction is back-up and then they either strike or grab their arm. so dont jugde other ppl if they do things differently.

[leogets2006]

you kids just dont get it do u. lol.. jog on

[eragon10896]

why not just neck strike instead of just choking her

[topshonuff]

Technique takes too long.. At the end you loose control of her and let her go. good if your gonna leave and run.. Your in no threat, a simple arm throw, sweep, or hip toss could of work and follow up with an arm bar.. The Knee stomp made you unbalance and can loose control, You could of just a round kick or knee strike.. This is not, Good Ninjitsu Technique..

[mrlowdangle]

its mostly bullshitsu anyway..in most real life attack situations,everything happens so fast that the techniques wont come quick enough,so you end up doing what comes instinctively,regardless of training..most unplanned man-man fights end up looking like typical brawls.

Some people can do it i know,but most of us wont think quick enough to coordinate moves against a determined unpredictable attacker once the adrenaline kicks in,unless you've conditioned your body until its second nature

[RajDrummer1]

Thats the point of training, to change your insticts from just brawling to the techniques you've learned. Repetition and realistic training (someone actually traing to punch you in the face etc.) causes your muscle memory to change, which means that if you practice enough then you will instinctively use those techniques in a fight

[samuraihavok607]

yeah mabey it would work i have no clue if it would but i would never turn my back on my opponent like that.

[VtrGott]

The worst grapling stance i have ever seen, go have some jiu-jitsu classes then u speek about this technique again. Obs: I practice Ninjutsu.

[j4m4la]

fuck you

[19BlackLord91]

yeah fuck this idiot

[NewZealfighter]

Unless your holding it your hands.Hee hee

[ninjermaster]

The belt color doesn't matter. What does matter is your skill level and your desire to survive no matter what.

[NewZealfighter]

Floyd Patterson told me a few times that will can be skill at times

[owenspence]

I hve just one concern with this video and it is, that the two combatants have assumed the classical judo arm and lapel grab, which unfortunately, ahs the potential to create the misunderstanding that this technique might only work, if a set of rules of expected conduct and response are followed..

[Wepper1]

enlighten me about the expected conduct and response please.

[owenspence]

To begin with, if there is an expected response to a technique, then it is known as a scripted response, which does nothing for proper learning.But what I am talking about, is a technique, or series of techniques, that requires a specific response, to a specific technique.  Frankly there is no such thing, since in reality, an attacker does not act in accordance with the expected techniques and responses.

[cdavistwo]

I don't think the art is dead, but I think its someone off in a cave somewhere that actually does it right. These techniques have gone out of practice because you can't go around practicing "subduing people" by punching them in the throat and breaking their arms.

[empolion9000]

first of all this is taijutsu mixed with boryaku and if he actually tryed theres two possabilities for her

1. her arm would break instiantly

2. her arm would break off

[superdruid999]

looks sloppy

[swifteagle43]

It looks sloppy because he can break her arm but he doesnt want to do it. It also looks like that because he doesnt want to teach people how to break peoples arms.... He shouldnt have put this video up in the first place

[superdruid999]

shure, but in his other vids even his blocking and punching techniques look sloppy and full of flaws, and theres not much harm in teaching strangers how to block correctly. plus you need the right timing, body movement and speed for this technique to work anyway, not to mention other follow up and back up techniques for if the first technique fails for some reason. so it gives me the impression that he isnt as good as a sensei should be...

[ninjermaster]

He isn't a good instructor and I can tell you that from experience. He always looks sloppy and always all over the place. His timing stinks and his uke is horrible and she is a 4Dan in like 3yrs. More crap from a lost org

[superdruid999]

4th DAN in 3 years?!! are you serious? that soud horribly easy. im 3rd kyu and it took me 6 years!!!

[ninjermaster]

Dude and that is how it should be. She can't even do break falls this guy is a joke

[Barhena]

Who cares, she's hot.

[Godz92]

Hmm, maybe 3 MORE years. Not 3 years in total ^^

[NoctisFFvXIII]

doesnt matter tho ninjutsu is a dead art

so i would post the vids anyways

plus muay thai has vids of breaking shit to

[alex53135]

frankenstien

[maceioninjutsu]

BUJINKAN?