@dannyd1572 Spoken like someone who gets his history from television. Nixon wasn't bad, I'd think you'd be concerned with the ugly faces of Ben Bradlee and Katharine Graham. Or the people who stole the 1960 election from us? You probably don't care about their ugliness.
@johnnyharpe I'm well aware of the 1960 election. Elections have been stolen for years. However, no other deceipt quite compares to what Nixon did. He lied, and then during his massacre he threw his closest advisers under the bus. People who confided in him and considered him their dearest friend. The guy is scum. I'm a history buff and damn well know plenty about it so be rest assured I do not get my history education from any channel. I read and form my own opinions.
@johnnyharpe Your wrong. Learn more about Nixon and the problems he had as a child and the complex he had about his dead brother. Nixon had psychiatric issues from when he was a young child.
@dannyd1572 I've been hearing how EEEEVIL Nixon was since 1973 when I was 9. It's so fucking stupid, the lying liberal jackass media made an evil character out of him and ran him out of town. I'd be more concerned about the Wash Post that could destroy a president than I would someone like Nixon. He was just a funny little man, Clinton or Obama, now there's a couple of evil selfish, ugly people.
@dannyd1572 I don't know where to begin. How about flooding Mexican gangs with guns, lying about it, and then claiming we need to rethink the 2nd Amendment because there are too many guns on the street!
@johnnyharpe Where do you think those guns came from? You can thank the NRA for that. The second amendment doesn't give anyone the right to carry an arenal despite what gun nuts say.
@dannyd1572 Wrong. All the 10 amendments in the Bill of Rights enumerate rights of THE PEOPLE over THE STATE. Period. Nowhere in there are rights given to the State.
@johnnyharpe The second ammendment gives the people the right to form a well-regulated Militia for a free state, which means that each person has the right to keep arms to ensure that their state is free from overtaking. Not that each person has the right to have their own stockpile in their basement.
@dannyd1572 Wrong. It merely lists the milita, which is US, as a reason for the individual's right to keep and bear arms. I says nothing about forming a miltia or so-called "stockpiles". Go away, stupid, it is such a waste of time arguing with people like you over the most DUMBASS THINGS, like is Obama evil, or what does the 2nd Amendment say.
@dannyd1572 Ha, you probably learned about Nixon from Futurama, that's probably all you know about it. "No other deceipt compares".. how ridiculous. What about the Gulf of Tonkin? Nixon was just like all the rest, you simpletons just fall for the liberal media story line.
Obama walks off with $40billion dollars. You work for GE or Daves bake shop and they tax ducuct your money calling Social Security Union Tax. Dave sets on Welfare and you work. Dave lauges while he calls you a scab. You paid nothing. A federal workers own child is a excuse for govt. to deposit large sums of money in social security to make it strong as McDonalds called it a loss on the W2 form. Where is the $40billion I guess Obama has got this in the bag. Still politics did not pay Bill UC
He was a criminal, plain and simple. He was caught in illegal activity, his former administration members that went to jail (and those that didn't) have publicly stated he authorized a cover-up, even went so far as to plan a break-in on the GOP HQ to make it look like the Dems did it...recent tapes released reveal he asked his Chf of Staff, Alexander Haig, to burn the Oval Office tapes (he declined). No use in romanticizing a president that ignored the constitution, ignored his duty...
CBS posted a Nixon tape where he's asked about ABORTION.
Nixon says that ''IT'S NOT BLACK AND WHITE as with rape. ''
That was a common expression in his day.
CBS manipulates and garbles his words and ''RE-WRITES'' over his face that he said abortion is fine ''as with black and white or rape''....painting him as racist.
I posted a correction.
They re-posted the video and cut off access for correction...so I can't post my correction.
as speeches go this is a real gem.......Watergate aside. this comment is about the speech and the man making it. 18 minutes, without notes, from the heart and real.........one of the top 5 speeches by a President in my mind. Given the circumstances surrounding him, all by his doing I agree but my God, what a wonderful display of speaking this is indeed!!
Nixon was a great President. In his first term, he was probably one of the best that we have ever had and one of the most accomplished. It is a shame that he got involved with the cover-up, like he did. He was a great orator and a smart politician. He rose from practically nothing to become the most powerful man in the world.
@SixthLordZach117; Nixon was a foreign policy genius, a very intelligent man.... but while he was very "intelligent", he really wasn't all that "smart". that's part of what led to his downfall.
lets first remember what the Presidency stands for...he is not god but he stand for a symbol of America and is suppose to display High Moral, integrity etc...part of the problem is we have moved away from having great men to vote for..the men now that run for president want the power that goes with the postion but do not know what a great man is.
The sad irony in what you are saying is that where it comes to serving as POTUS, effectiveness outweighs decency.
Look, Jimmy Carter was the most decent man ever to occupy the White House, at least during my lifetime. Unfortunately, aside from The Camp David Accord, he was almost totally ineffective as President.
no. not at all, i think that with the exception of Monica Lwensky...Clinton did an effective Job as President especially considering he was under attack from his enemies on day of his presidency.
What POTUS has not come under attack by the opposition?? Clinton promised the American people an administration that would"avoid the mere appearance of impropriety" Instead, he gave us one tacky spectacle after another. Clinton had his moral failings, but history has no choice but to record him as a very effective POTUS.
The irony about Nixon is that his legacy is something of an enigma. While campaigning as a conservative, many liberal programs were established during his administration.
Just as an aside, "hardrein101", it's nice to have a constructive discourse without the flaming, insults, vitriol, or vulgarities that find their way into so many controversial (and, quite sadly, even some noncontroversial Y/T threads.
Perhaps the most damaging effect Watergate had on us was that people became conditioned to the realization of corruption in government. The corruption was really nothing new. We saw it in LBJ's administration. Despite his moral failings, LBJ was also a very effective President. When we see the corruption that lead to 9-11, or Cheney's role in exposing the identity of a CIA operative as a means of political retaliation, the American sheeple just don't get too riled up about it anymore.
Right you are, Hardrein101!!...... which is why I stand firm in my beliefs that the crimes of Watergate pale in comparison to the crimes of Cheney / Bush... or for that matter, the criminal legacy of the Bush family. There was only one death that could be attributed to Watergate. Look at how many people died at the hands of Cheney / Bush.
thank you for agreeing with me but I don't want to donplay watergate because it left a bad stain on America and i think Nixion, while an itelligent man played fast and loose with the office of the President and let the power go to his head...he was a corupt politician..But lets all remember that this is not an easy position to have and is a tremdous amount of weight for one man to bare.
It's not really an issue of "downplaying" Watergate. The fact is that the administrations of JFK and LBJ engaged in covert operations for political purposes. Of course, Nixon's administration got caught.
For RMN, Watergate was a gnat in his ear. Vietnam, negotiations with the Soviets, as well as the social and cultural revolution taking place here in the U.S. were more pressing issues. Ironically, the elections were no big concern; no Democrat could have beat Nixon in 1972.
We can discuss without "debating". This seems to be an area of interest to you, and I would encourage you to explore it in further depth.
One problem was that RMN was a very intelligent man, but he wasn't very smart. He lived in a world of "enemies". Much as Don Quixote was at war with the windmills, Nixon considered himself at war with the forces who opposed him. Ironically, where his administration was concerned, he seemed to prefer working with Southern Democrats more than Republicans.
interesting Observation...again I can not give an indepth comment because other than watchin the Frost/Nixion movie i have very little to go on about Nixon. seemed to be a man who had strong beliefs but lived in his own world a bit.
"(Nixon) seemed to be a man who had strong beliefs but lived in his own world a bit."
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EXACTLY!! When Nixon assumed office, the social and cultural revolution here in The US was well under way. TV was making the world a much smaller place. Walter Cronkite had taken the bold step of not only reporting the events in Vietnam, but also stating that the war, as he saw it, could not be one. The space race was under way, the civil rights movement had become volatile.
The press and journalists in America were no longer simply reporting events in the world, they were also seeking to influence them. In RMN's eyes, this made them "the enemy". Hippies, scholars, anti-war protesters, Jews, Negroes, and academia were also "enemies". Consequently, Nixon shut off lines of communications with those people he should have been seeking to build bridges with, and he became isolated in The White House.
very well stated and a good Observation. Sounds if RMN should have never been elected Pres with these views. funny...i have left many comments on YT but never gotten so many responses.
I enjoy exchanging thoughts and perspectives with people. Actually, had it not been for Watergate, Nixon's legacy would have been quite different. He had one of the highest public approval ratings of any POTUS in history.
Show me a POTUS who was not dangerous, and I'll show you a POTUS who is ineffective, which in and of itself, leaves the nation in a very vulnerable, precarious, and dangerous position. In my lifetime, the most decent man to occupy The White House was Jimmy
Carter. A very decent man, but his decency is what blinded him to the dangers that we, as a nation, were facing. For all of his decency, he was equally ineffective.
His decency was what lead to the hostage crisis in Iran. That alone cost the US political capital in a world where the Soviet Union was still seeking world expansion, the middle East was becoming a tender box for trouble, our economy was faltering, and his ability to deal with Capitol Hill was essentially neutralized.
i dont that Jimmy Carter was efective at all was he a decent man very much so...but has a president he sucked...again, i think Clinton was a very effective pPresident...yes, he is wicked and sneaky but also Smart and a very goog speaker.
So, I'm a nutcase, iown?? I know you're very young, but go back and study The Nuremberg Trials held after WWII. Water boarding was considered a war crime, and former German military leaders were hanged for it. So, Cheney / Bush, who authorized water boarding are not war criminals?? This hypocrisy is part of the reason America is so disliked by people and leaders of other countries. Do a Google search on "Bush / Barry Seale". Educate yourself.
Important words. "Others may hate you, but those you hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then, you destroy yourself."
As we move forward into the instant gratification age, we will see more and more people be careless, disrespectful, and self indulgent. When someone acts that way to you, remember those words. It takes effort to be considerate and logical. Most don't expend that effort anymore because increasingly we don't need to. Don't get mad. Don't destroy yourself.
This is hilarious. Richard M. Nixon telling other people not to "get discourage, be petty or hate others." He should have followed that with, "Do an I say, not as I do."
I am a true Nixon fan. He was a great President, a great man, and one I looked up to. He got a raw deal what he did was child's play compared to the current thing in the White House. obooba is out to destroy our America.
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He was an utter scoundrel who resigned so as not to be impeached.He deserved prison since we no longer hang for treason.May his memory rot and his name be blotted out from the Earth.
Nixon was from the old school, when the White House conducted covert operations, guided by "unwritten rules", in a cloak of silence. the social and cultural revolution in the US was at it's apogee, and those unwritten rules were changing.
RMN was too isolated from those changes to understand the full dynamics, or the degree of them.
While Nixon may have been, as some people say, "a scoundrel", in many respects, he was an effective President. History has shown him to be a flawed man, and rightfully so. History has also recorded his contributions and accomplishments
In my lifetime, Jimmy Carter was clearly the most decent man to occupy the Oval Office; unfortunately, he was equally ineffective as President.
nixon was as much a crook as our last persident Bush was and both were wrong in their actions..aarogant men who believe they can do whatever they want and then justify it..what a disrace!!!!!
Watergate was a tawdry spectacle compared to the crimes of Cheney / Bush. Watergate did not drag the American Sheeple into a war with a country that had absolutely nothing to do with the so-called "attacks" of 9/11.
you are so correct i agree that bush/cheney were allowed to get away with much to much and tarnished America's reputation..but lets not belittle what Nixon did because watergate also left an embarassing stain and was a gross misuse of the office of the President.
People are so inclined to put JFK and Obama on a pedestal. You don't think they lie? Nixon cared more for this country then either one of those two...and you can take that to the bank.
I don't think I can take anything a Republican say to the bank, because of the last 8 years with Duyba because it will come up as non suffient funds.......
The outsourcing in the 1950s was sort of a 'gift' to Japan, primarily, per the wishes of General MacArthur. "Made in Japan" was a joke, which, of course, became serious business in the late 60s and then turned into our national disgrace as China was fully "opened" per Nixon. We had thrown a few crumbs to Formosa and South Korea, the crumbs transforming into giant cookies of trade deficits after 1976. Every other country was 'opened'----the joke was on the American working man. Thanxx, Nixon.
slapdaddy is oo right bush is boderine but like 4 sure all the others i mean im only a teenager but if anyone should complain it is kids my age... were gunna pay 4 all this corruptness adn crap ass sitmlus bills
hell hes just as corrupt as any other politician.. id rather vote 4 the guy who got caught and says sorry than the guy who got away and lies.. bush, clinton, kerry, hitler, oboma etc.
He only said sorry when he had no other choice, it took him a very long time considering the seriousness of the offence in comparison to some of the others you mentioned.
So basically what you are saying is that you have learned absolutely f*** all about how government is supposed to work under the Constitution.
Richard Nixon is no different to any President over the last 100 years. They have all been working for a group of bankers since America handed over its entire soverign state many centuries ago. You think you are free? We have never been free. The Constitution you think we follow is not the one that was drafted by the founding fathers!
by the way asshole, i didnt watch any of the gay videos u sent me, america is the best country and always will be, your just wasting your time saying how america is so bad,
nobody cares about your political views, and you sure wont alter any of my opinions, so your just wasting your time
So, I guess you will be one of the crettens we scrape up off the ground from hunger.Remember this moment how u were warned because what use are you to anyone if ur dead.If u think government cares for you and will fix everything, then this shows your complete lack of education. This is especially so when you cant even use a full stop in your sentences.This is how dumb you are! There aint no dignity in being stupid. End of transmission.
Do you really think your heroes in sports will give a flying f*** about you when your banging on the doors of your local bank in 2008, while you eat insects off the ground to stay alive!.
All sports people should be just that, sports people .. Not celebrities who are paid vast sums of money from the stupid people like you who enter the gates to support them.
But then again you know no different because a mediocre education system leads you to believe in an insect like Nixon.
Yeah, that's the important part. Which one are you Dumb or Dumber! lol
I hope you have enough of your family left to attend your funeral post 2009. You are way in over your head here, so plez leave the building B4 you get squashed. Watch and learn or will your small uneducated brain allow it?
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Albeit, Watergate was a disaster; but other than that ( name one president in the 20th century who didn't have their scandals). Richard Milhouse Nixon was a great president.
"Other than the crash landing in the Hudson River, the flight from Charlotte was great."
Other than Watergate, the second greatest Constitutional crisis in the history of the Presidency (second only to Bush using the 4th Amendment as a Kleenex)? Hilarious.
Nixon resigned six years before I was born and was a Republican as I'm a Democrat. The man had faults but he sure could deliver a speech. One of the greatest lines, most likely a result of reflecting where he went wrong... "...always give your best, never get discouraged, never be petty; always remember, others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.. and then, you destroy yourself."
He has had the lowest approval rating of any president, Bush runs a close second. He believed that as the president he could break any law. Under Nixon there was a spike in inflation and mortgage rates topped 20%.
Tragic. In my opinion Mr Nixon always put the country first. At the time McGovern was the most liberal piece of you know what to ever run for President (record broken by Mr Obama). Some of his minions may have taken liberties with "the rules" but Nixon still won 49 states fair and square. The American people spoke clearly. How often do we hear about how many states Mr Nixon won. Or how many Reagan won? I saw some idiot on Youtube claiming Obama had the biggest blowout ever, not even close
I met him in San Clemente. He and I literally tripped out on the fact that you can slightly see the curve of our own earth from the beach. He pointed that out to me. Pretty nice fellow.
I wonder many times what Nixon would say if he could see how far the Republican party has departed from the fundlemental principles in which he so deeply believed. Nixon came from the plain people and he always believed in them.
Actually the development of the party, whether for better or worse, has followed along a very steady line from the policies and agenda of Nixon to those of Ford and then Reagan and then Bush and then Bush Jr. You don't see that? If not, then where exactly was the break-off point (assuming there was just one)?
easily one of the best speeches of all time. Done almost entirely without notes, except the quote read from TR, which shows the side of Nixon not seen enough, his genius!!!
Wonderful, wonderful speech. greatness does come when you are really tested, when you take some knocks when sadness comes. You absolutely need to have been in the deepest valley to know how magnificent it is on the hightest mountain. Brillant!! Brillant stuff!!
The acclaimed Scottish psychiatrist Dr. Charles Follen McKim Maloney, a close friend of President Nixon, sent a bouqet of Zinnias to Pat Nixon following this speech.
Richard Nixon was, by far, one of the greatest presidents this country has ever had. He was a considerate, intelligent man, superior to any that preceded him and succeeded (or many) succeed him.
In an unrelated topic, I do not believe that Nixon had much to do with Watergate. I have a feeling that Republican lobbyists desired more information, and essentially cheated President Nixon out of his dignity and respect.
Had watergate never happened, Nixon would be considered one of the all time great presidents. Ending the war without defeat (until Ford blinked), China, arms control with the Soviet Union, the EPA, etc, etc.
You know...I've always had this opinion on Nixon, that he was one of the worst presidents in U.S. history, but I've been watching videos from his candidacy with JFK, and he really wasn't that bad, with his views and such. And going down the way he did, he may not have been one of the greatest presidents, but I think putting him down there with Bush is a very ignorant statement. He was in no way WORSE than Bush.
im doing part of this speech for my la class
madhoude74dude 1 month ago
Nixon's story is so fascinating. A true tragedy
FREAKNIZZLE100 1 month ago
looks like a honest guy
MrInternettoughguy66 1 month ago
Amen
Mohovista 4 months ago
Nixon did nothing that presidents before him didn't do. He just got caught. Sad because he really was a good president.
KrazyKommieKiller 4 months ago
I remember watching this very well. I was 3, and what stood out to me most was Tricia's yellow dress, as yellow was/is my favorite color.
snoops71 4 months ago
hes in black ops
josue123098 4 months ago
Aside from watergate, he wasn't that bad a president
ThePOTUS22 7 months ago
The face of the Republican Party....and ain't it a pretty one?
dannyd1572 7 months ago
@dannyd1572 Spoken like someone who gets his history from television. Nixon wasn't bad, I'd think you'd be concerned with the ugly faces of Ben Bradlee and Katharine Graham. Or the people who stole the 1960 election from us? You probably don't care about their ugliness.
johnnyharpe 4 months ago
@johnnyharpe I'm well aware of the 1960 election. Elections have been stolen for years. However, no other deceipt quite compares to what Nixon did. He lied, and then during his massacre he threw his closest advisers under the bus. People who confided in him and considered him their dearest friend. The guy is scum. I'm a history buff and damn well know plenty about it so be rest assured I do not get my history education from any channel. I read and form my own opinions.
dannyd1572 4 months ago
@dannyd1572 If you were such a history buff, you'd know Nixon was just a garden variety politician and no particularly "ugly" person.
johnnyharpe 4 months ago
@johnnyharpe Your wrong. Learn more about Nixon and the problems he had as a child and the complex he had about his dead brother. Nixon had psychiatric issues from when he was a young child.
dannyd1572 4 months ago
@dannyd1572 I've been hearing how EEEEVIL Nixon was since 1973 when I was 9. It's so fucking stupid, the lying liberal jackass media made an evil character out of him and ran him out of town. I'd be more concerned about the Wash Post that could destroy a president than I would someone like Nixon. He was just a funny little man, Clinton or Obama, now there's a couple of evil selfish, ugly people.
johnnyharpe 4 months ago
@johnnyharpe Clinton? Obama? Not standing up for Obama but what has he done to be evil and selfish?
dannyd1572 4 months ago
@dannyd1572 I don't know where to begin. How about flooding Mexican gangs with guns, lying about it, and then claiming we need to rethink the 2nd Amendment because there are too many guns on the street!
johnnyharpe 4 months ago
@johnnyharpe Where do you think those guns came from? You can thank the NRA for that. The second amendment doesn't give anyone the right to carry an arenal despite what gun nuts say.
dannyd1572 4 months ago
@dannyd1572 Wrong. All the 10 amendments in the Bill of Rights enumerate rights of THE PEOPLE over THE STATE. Period. Nowhere in there are rights given to the State.
johnnyharpe 4 months ago
@johnnyharpe The second ammendment gives the people the right to form a well-regulated Militia for a free state, which means that each person has the right to keep arms to ensure that their state is free from overtaking. Not that each person has the right to have their own stockpile in their basement.
dannyd1572 4 months ago
@dannyd1572 Wrong. It merely lists the milita, which is US, as a reason for the individual's right to keep and bear arms. I says nothing about forming a miltia or so-called "stockpiles". Go away, stupid, it is such a waste of time arguing with people like you over the most DUMBASS THINGS, like is Obama evil, or what does the 2nd Amendment say.
johnnyharpe 4 months ago
And THE POINT IS, you asked what Obama had done that was evil.
johnnyharpe 4 months ago
@dannyd1572 Ha, you probably learned about Nixon from Futurama, that's probably all you know about it. "No other deceipt compares".. how ridiculous. What about the Gulf of Tonkin? Nixon was just like all the rest, you simpletons just fall for the liberal media story line.
johnnyharpe 4 months ago
@johnnyharpe What the hell is futurama? Gulf Of Tonkin was LBJ idiot
dannyd1572 4 months ago
He should have taken his own advice......crook.
dakotajoman 8 months ago
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Obama walks off with $40billion dollars. You work for GE or Daves bake shop and they tax ducuct your money calling Social Security Union Tax. Dave sets on Welfare and you work. Dave lauges while he calls you a scab. You paid nothing. A federal workers own child is a excuse for govt. to deposit large sums of money in social security to make it strong as McDonalds called it a loss on the W2 form. Where is the $40billion I guess Obama has got this in the bag. Still politics did not pay Bill UC
redviper2GAMER 9 months ago
Nixon was the greatest president and also the worst. A man of great contradictions........
norcalmikey99 10 months ago
He was a criminal, plain and simple. He was caught in illegal activity, his former administration members that went to jail (and those that didn't) have publicly stated he authorized a cover-up, even went so far as to plan a break-in on the GOP HQ to make it look like the Dems did it...recent tapes released reveal he asked his Chf of Staff, Alexander Haig, to burn the Oval Office tapes (he declined). No use in romanticizing a president that ignored the constitution, ignored his duty...
robertd772 11 months ago 2
What a complex man. A little too complex for the office he held.
windstorm1000 1 year ago
CBS posted a Nixon tape where he's asked about ABORTION.
Nixon says that ''IT'S NOT BLACK AND WHITE as with rape. ''
That was a common expression in his day.
CBS manipulates and garbles his words and ''RE-WRITES'' over his face that he said abortion is fine ''as with black and white or rape''....painting him as racist.
I posted a correction.
They re-posted the video and cut off access for correction...so I can't post my correction.
Still lying about him.
Still
cbasallie 1 year ago
as speeches go this is a real gem.......Watergate aside. this comment is about the speech and the man making it. 18 minutes, without notes, from the heart and real.........one of the top 5 speeches by a President in my mind. Given the circumstances surrounding him, all by his doing I agree but my God, what a wonderful display of speaking this is indeed!!
kevcas73 1 year ago
Air Force Gen. John Lavelle. Research this man and this will sum up the legacy of Nixon!
peachkim 1 year ago
.... and so we leave with high hopes, in good spirit .... UNBELIEVABLE
bluestream1977 1 year ago
cunt
adamtzsch 1 year ago
Im sure the zionists such as kissinger had something to do with framing him, just like Kennedy, he was too independent minded for their liking.
aeronuk1 1 year ago
名演説ですね。この一説が大好きです。
superzooms 1 year ago
The incredible STRESS this man was under - of his own making, mind you - at the time and this kind of footage is amazing!
BajaBill2009 1 year ago
He sweating badly. Look at his upper lip.
davleuv 2 years ago
Nixon was a great President. In his first term, he was probably one of the best that we have ever had and one of the most accomplished. It is a shame that he got involved with the cover-up, like he did. He was a great orator and a smart politician. He rose from practically nothing to become the most powerful man in the world.
SithLordZach117 2 years ago 17
@SixthLordZach117; Nixon was a foreign policy genius, a very intelligent man.... but while he was very "intelligent", he really wasn't all that "smart". that's part of what led to his downfall.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
tricia nixon is so pretty!
mulan400 2 years ago 2
his wife looks like Betty white standing in that back ground.
hardrein101 2 years ago
lets first remember what the Presidency stands for...he is not god but he stand for a symbol of America and is suppose to display High Moral, integrity etc...part of the problem is we have moved away from having great men to vote for..the men now that run for president want the power that goes with the postion but do not know what a great man is.
hardrein101 2 years ago
The sad irony in what you are saying is that where it comes to serving as POTUS, effectiveness outweighs decency.
Look, Jimmy Carter was the most decent man ever to occupy the White House, at least during my lifetime. Unfortunately, aside from The Camp David Accord, he was almost totally ineffective as President.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
no. not at all, i think that with the exception of Monica Lwensky...Clinton did an effective Job as President especially considering he was under attack from his enemies on day of his presidency.
hardrein101 2 years ago
What POTUS has not come under attack by the opposition?? Clinton promised the American people an administration that would"avoid the mere appearance of impropriety" Instead, he gave us one tacky spectacle after another. Clinton had his moral failings, but history has no choice but to record him as a very effective POTUS.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
The irony about Nixon is that his legacy is something of an enigma. While campaigning as a conservative, many liberal programs were established during his administration.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
Just as an aside, "hardrein101", it's nice to have a constructive discourse without the flaming, insults, vitriol, or vulgarities that find their way into so many controversial (and, quite sadly, even some noncontroversial Y/T threads.
Kudos to ya'!!
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
inspite of inappropriate behavior Clinton was a very effective president.
hardrein101 2 years ago
Perhaps the most damaging effect Watergate had on us was that people became conditioned to the realization of corruption in government. The corruption was really nothing new. We saw it in LBJ's administration. Despite his moral failings, LBJ was also a very effective President. When we see the corruption that lead to 9-11, or Cheney's role in exposing the identity of a CIA operative as a means of political retaliation, the American sheeple just don't get too riled up about it anymore.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
bush/cheney were imoral pigs were allowed to steal an election, lead intwar with munipulation and lies. Horible, Just Horrible.
hardrein101 2 years ago
Right you are, Hardrein101!!...... which is why I stand firm in my beliefs that the crimes of Watergate pale in comparison to the crimes of Cheney / Bush... or for that matter, the criminal legacy of the Bush family. There was only one death that could be attributed to Watergate. Look at how many people died at the hands of Cheney / Bush.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
thank you for agreeing with me but I don't want to donplay watergate because it left a bad stain on America and i think Nixion, while an itelligent man played fast and loose with the office of the President and let the power go to his head...he was a corupt politician..But lets all remember that this is not an easy position to have and is a tremdous amount of weight for one man to bare.
hardrein101 2 years ago
It's not really an issue of "downplaying" Watergate. The fact is that the administrations of JFK and LBJ engaged in covert operations for political purposes. Of course, Nixon's administration got caught.
For RMN, Watergate was a gnat in his ear. Vietnam, negotiations with the Soviets, as well as the social and cultural revolution taking place here in the U.S. were more pressing issues. Ironically, the elections were no big concern; no Democrat could have beat Nixon in 1972.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
Nixon just wanted Watergate to go away. He did not order the break-in at Watergate. His mishandling of the cover-up was what did him in.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
was only 2rs old then so i dont know enough about water gat to rebutt or comment further.
hardrein101 2 years ago
We can discuss without "debating". This seems to be an area of interest to you, and I would encourage you to explore it in further depth.
One problem was that RMN was a very intelligent man, but he wasn't very smart. He lived in a world of "enemies". Much as Don Quixote was at war with the windmills, Nixon considered himself at war with the forces who opposed him. Ironically, where his administration was concerned, he seemed to prefer working with Southern Democrats more than Republicans.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
interesting Observation...again I can not give an indepth comment because other than watchin the Frost/Nixion movie i have very little to go on about Nixon. seemed to be a man who had strong beliefs but lived in his own world a bit.
hardrein101 2 years ago
@ hardrein101:
"(Nixon) seemed to be a man who had strong beliefs but lived in his own world a bit."
Pt. 1
EXACTLY!! When Nixon assumed office, the social and cultural revolution here in The US was well under way. TV was making the world a much smaller place. Walter Cronkite had taken the bold step of not only reporting the events in Vietnam, but also stating that the war, as he saw it, could not be one. The space race was under way, the civil rights movement had become volatile.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
Pt.2
The press and journalists in America were no longer simply reporting events in the world, they were also seeking to influence them. In RMN's eyes, this made them "the enemy". Hippies, scholars, anti-war protesters, Jews, Negroes, and academia were also "enemies". Consequently, Nixon shut off lines of communications with those people he should have been seeking to build bridges with, and he became isolated in The White House.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
very well stated and a good Observation. Sounds if RMN should have never been elected Pres with these views. funny...i have left many comments on YT but never gotten so many responses.
hardrein101 2 years ago
I enjoy exchanging thoughts and perspectives with people. Actually, had it not been for Watergate, Nixon's legacy would have been quite different. He had one of the highest public approval ratings of any POTUS in history.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
yes, but waterget taught us just how dangerous this man was.
hardrein101 2 years ago
But herein lies the wicked twist, Hardrein;
Show me a POTUS who was not dangerous, and I'll show you a POTUS who is ineffective, which in and of itself, leaves the nation in a very vulnerable, precarious, and dangerous position. In my lifetime, the most decent man to occupy The White House was Jimmy
Carter. A very decent man, but his decency is what blinded him to the dangers that we, as a nation, were facing. For all of his decency, he was equally ineffective.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
His decency was what lead to the hostage crisis in Iran. That alone cost the US political capital in a world where the Soviet Union was still seeking world expansion, the middle East was becoming a tender box for trouble, our economy was faltering, and his ability to deal with Capitol Hill was essentially neutralized.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
i dont that Jimmy Carter was efective at all was he a decent man very much so...but has a president he sucked...again, i think Clinton was a very effective pPresident...yes, he is wicked and sneaky but also Smart and a very goog speaker.
hardrein101 2 years ago
liberal loon
iown813 2 years ago
So, "iown813", do you have anything of substance to offer?? Or, are you so shallow as to be reduced to moronic flames??
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
youre a liberal loon who thinks bush is an evil war criminal. keep drinking the kool aid you nut
iown813 2 years ago
So, iown813, is THAT your idea of "substance"?? Guess you've answered my second question to you!!
Thanks!!
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
So, I'm a nutcase, iown?? I know you're very young, but go back and study The Nuremberg Trials held after WWII. Water boarding was considered a war crime, and former German military leaders were hanged for it. So, Cheney / Bush, who authorized water boarding are not war criminals?? This hypocrisy is part of the reason America is so disliked by people and leaders of other countries. Do a Google search on "Bush / Barry Seale". Educate yourself.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
oh yes and the world loves us so much now that obama is president...
iown813 2 years ago
Nice shallow rhetoric, iown813!! Do you have anything of substance to offer??
Do a quick Google Search on "Bush / Barry Seale".
What was it that caused Osama Bin Laden, once an ally of the U.S., (the US trained and funded Bin Laden and Tte Taliban) to turn against The US??
Who was head of security at the WTC up until 3 DAYS before the "attacks" of 9-11??
Who brokered the sale of oil to Nazi Germany during WWII??
What are you afraid of discovering??
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
you 9/11 truthers are a disgrace
iown813 2 years ago
The truth behind 9/11 is disgraceful. Would you be so kind as to answer my questions??
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
Important words. "Others may hate you, but those you hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then, you destroy yourself."
As we move forward into the instant gratification age, we will see more and more people be careless, disrespectful, and self indulgent. When someone acts that way to you, remember those words. It takes effort to be considerate and logical. Most don't expend that effort anymore because increasingly we don't need to. Don't get mad. Don't destroy yourself.
ThinlyVeiledMetaphor 2 years ago
This is hilarious. Richard M. Nixon telling other people not to "get discourage, be petty or hate others." He should have followed that with, "Do an I say, not as I do."
corebare 2 years ago
this speech always tears me up. this speech is nixon truogh and through.
nixonismyhero1 2 years ago 3
I am a true Nixon fan. He was a great President, a great man, and one I looked up to. He got a raw deal what he did was child's play compared to the current thing in the White House. obooba is out to destroy our America.
AARDVARK0MARK 2 years ago
He was the last American president......
limatima 2 years ago 11
How so?
pardesafghan 2 years ago
Very few former presidents could fill this mans boots.
fokjock 2 years ago 4
God, I miss this guy.
fibes55 2 years ago 3
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He was an utter scoundrel who resigned so as not to be impeached.He deserved prison since we no longer hang for treason.May his memory rot and his name be blotted out from the Earth.
AuroraKismet 2 years ago
The Earth, maybe, but his name is engraved on a plaque on the moon forever.
pfistermon 2 years ago 2
Nixon was no more of a scoundrel than LBJ,
JFK, or other President's that preceded him.
Nixon was from the old school, when the White House conducted covert operations, guided by "unwritten rules", in a cloak of silence. the social and cultural revolution in the US was at it's apogee, and those unwritten rules were changing.
RMN was too isolated from those changes to understand the full dynamics, or the degree of them.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
While Nixon may have been, as some people say, "a scoundrel", in many respects, he was an effective President. History has shown him to be a flawed man, and rightfully so. History has also recorded his contributions and accomplishments
In my lifetime, Jimmy Carter was clearly the most decent man to occupy the Oval Office; unfortunately, he was equally ineffective as President.
BTW, I speak as a liberal Democrat.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
nixon was as much a crook as our last persident Bush was and both were wrong in their actions..aarogant men who believe they can do whatever they want and then justify it..what a disrace!!!!!
hardrein101 2 years ago
The crimes of Watergate pale in comparison to the crimes of Cheney / Bush.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
i do so agree..it was a sin what they were allowed to get away with.
hardrein101 2 years ago
Watergate was a tawdry spectacle compared to the crimes of Cheney / Bush. Watergate did not drag the American Sheeple into a war with a country that had absolutely nothing to do with the so-called "attacks" of 9/11.
Outlaw1257 2 years ago
you are so correct i agree that bush/cheney were allowed to get away with much to much and tarnished America's reputation..but lets not belittle what Nixon did because watergate also left an embarassing stain and was a gross misuse of the office of the President.
hardrein101 2 years ago
People are so inclined to put JFK and Obama on a pedestal. You don't think they lie? Nixon cared more for this country then either one of those two...and you can take that to the bank.
josephkrolikowski 2 years ago
I don't think I can take anything a Republican say to the bank, because of the last 8 years with Duyba because it will come up as non suffient funds.......
applesauce2100 2 years ago 2
He was and is American all the way for the USA. I like him.
michaelwright999 2 years ago
The outsourcing in the 1950s was sort of a 'gift' to Japan, primarily, per the wishes of General MacArthur. "Made in Japan" was a joke, which, of course, became serious business in the late 60s and then turned into our national disgrace as China was fully "opened" per Nixon. We had thrown a few crumbs to Formosa and South Korea, the crumbs transforming into giant cookies of trade deficits after 1976. Every other country was 'opened'----the joke was on the American working man. Thanxx, Nixon.
lumpagogo 2 years ago
Nixon goes to you some of my tasty ass to have fun with a female and not really get to swindle the people
thereyfrajos23 2 years ago
Be it any mistake which he committed.. Still the man was genuine. In my view of course and i dont really care if you give me hands down.
turnpikesurfer 2 years ago 2
Stalin was genuine to and thought he was doing right by his country, so did Hitler, that excuses nothing.
ChrissyChiChi 2 years ago
slapdaddy is oo right bush is boderine but like 4 sure all the others i mean im only a teenager but if anyone should complain it is kids my age... were gunna pay 4 all this corruptness adn crap ass sitmlus bills
thekid112233 2 years ago
4 nixon..
hell hes just as corrupt as any other politician.. id rather vote 4 the guy who got caught and says sorry than the guy who got away and lies.. bush, clinton, kerry, hitler, oboma etc.
slapdaddyc 2 years ago
He only said sorry when he had no other choice, it took him a very long time considering the seriousness of the offence in comparison to some of the others you mentioned.
ChrissyChiChi 2 years ago
whoa
Animehindu69 2 years ago
God bless Nixon!!
RockyBalboa211 2 years ago 3
i do not like nixon and despise almost everything he stood for. However, that is one of the best speeches I have ever seen. . .
Fspringfield5 2 years ago 2
Gratefulness or gratitude?
bigboss25262 3 years ago
A great statesman!
JohnFPorcaro 3 years ago
god bless richard nixon, i would re-elect him anyday of the week
parksitous 3 years ago
The funny thing is that Nixon was relativly innocent in comparisson to Bush. Nixon bugged one office, Bush the whole nation.
AntiMuhammed1 3 years ago
So basically what you are saying is that you have learned absolutely f*** all about how government is supposed to work under the Constitution.
Richard Nixon is no different to any President over the last 100 years. They have all been working for a group of bankers since America handed over its entire soverign state many centuries ago. You think you are free? We have never been free. The Constitution you think we follow is not the one that was drafted by the founding fathers!
mistybombs 3 years ago 2
by the way asshole, i didnt watch any of the gay videos u sent me, america is the best country and always will be, your just wasting your time saying how america is so bad,
nobody cares about your political views, and you sure wont alter any of my opinions, so your just wasting your time
parksitous 3 years ago
So, I guess you will be one of the crettens we scrape up off the ground from hunger.Remember this moment how u were warned because what use are you to anyone if ur dead.If u think government cares for you and will fix everything, then this shows your complete lack of education. This is especially so when you cant even use a full stop in your sentences.This is how dumb you are! There aint no dignity in being stupid. End of transmission.
mistybombs 3 years ago
end of transmission, wat r u a robot?
jesus that was pretty gay
parksitous 3 years ago
Do you really think your heroes in sports will give a flying f*** about you when your banging on the doors of your local bank in 2008, while you eat insects off the ground to stay alive!.
All sports people should be just that, sports people .. Not celebrities who are paid vast sums of money from the stupid people like you who enter the gates to support them.
But then again you know no different because a mediocre education system leads you to believe in an insect like Nixon.
mistybombs 3 years ago
will you shut up, "sports people" idk wat you rtalking about are calling nixon a sports person or somthing?
the guy improved the economy and stopped the vietnam war, sure, he wanted to bomb cambodia without permission, but still, he stopped the war,
so keep your little politcal rants to yourself, because you havent changed my opinion about one of the best presidnets.
parksitous 3 years ago
"I hear you knocking, but you cant come in"
Oh, please sir, my family have no food, no home, no shelter. Plez give us the money I lodged into my bank acc an savings acc last month"
"I hear you knocking, but you cant come in.The bank is closed sir.Sorry for your predicament, but to be frank, I dont give a damn!"
Then what do you do? U say to urself.God I was stupid as a brick a few months ago.Please God send us the D'Lorean so I can rectify my stupidity!
and God said "Sorry Parky"
mistybombs 3 years ago
r u demented or somthing?
my dad had a great job and never needed a lone, so im sorry but i think i have A MUCH BETTER FINANCIAL SITUATION THAN U
parksitous 3 years ago
uh, its 2009.
And its "you're" not "your"
kcg5000 2 years ago
"And its "you're" not "your"
Yeah, that's the important part. Which one are you Dumb or Dumber! lol
I hope you have enough of your family left to attend your funeral post 2009. You are way in over your head here, so plez leave the building B4 you get squashed. Watch and learn or will your small uneducated brain allow it?
watch?v=G40pZbf6Is4&feature=PlayList&p=058052CCE5AF4C16&index=146
watch?v=FIwnqKE159o&feature=channel_page
mistybombs 2 years ago
who gives a shit about grammar? His meaning was clear.
ImSoJohnDeleted 2 years ago
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Albeit, Watergate was a disaster; but other than that ( name one president in the 20th century who didn't have their scandals). Richard Milhouse Nixon was a great president.
tarbosia 3 years ago
"Other than the crash landing in the Hudson River, the flight from Charlotte was great."
Other than Watergate, the second greatest Constitutional crisis in the history of the Presidency (second only to Bush using the 4th Amendment as a Kleenex)? Hilarious.
SteveAndIdiAmin 3 years ago
Nixon resigned six years before I was born and was a Republican as I'm a Democrat. The man had faults but he sure could deliver a speech. One of the greatest lines, most likely a result of reflecting where he went wrong... "...always give your best, never get discouraged, never be petty; always remember, others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.. and then, you destroy yourself."
themattcause80 3 years ago
True words, 'themattcause80'. He could have done some reflecting before august 74, but still, this speech is great
newams71 3 years ago
Nicely put.
cgagemorse 3 years ago
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GREAT MAN, YOU JEALOUS BASTARDS
greeniem 3 years ago
Karma's a bitch, 'aint it, Dicky?
Geezer 3 years ago
Dick was utterly obsessed with what others thought of him.
prod1gy3000 3 years ago 8
So are Clinton and Obama. George W. Bush, by contrast, never gave a damn what the polls said. A great "misunderestimated" president.
goback3spaces 3 years ago
He has had the lowest approval rating of any president, Bush runs a close second. He believed that as the president he could break any law. Under Nixon there was a spike in inflation and mortgage rates topped 20%.
Isabella8466 3 years ago
And it was even worse under Carter.
msellne 3 years ago
Tragic. In my opinion Mr Nixon always put the country first. At the time McGovern was the most liberal piece of you know what to ever run for President (record broken by Mr Obama). Some of his minions may have taken liberties with "the rules" but Nixon still won 49 states fair and square. The American people spoke clearly. How often do we hear about how many states Mr Nixon won. Or how many Reagan won? I saw some idiot on Youtube claiming Obama had the biggest blowout ever, not even close
buttthrax 3 years ago
very true you need to go back 72 years to get to where a Democrat won by similar blowout to that of the Republicans in both 84' and 72'
nickels92679 3 years ago
wow... i think hes talking to himself.
candieondabch 3 years ago
lol, never be petty!... tut tut tut
HEYARNOLD5 3 years ago
its been down hill ever since
Ilovenancy72 3 years ago
Those yellow drapes are making me blind. They loved technocolor back in those days, didn't they.
crazychrisva 3 years ago
I didn't even realize he said these words until i wated a PBS special on Nixon.
This is one of the better speeches I ever heard. Inspirational. Basically he's saying don't make his mistakes of being petty and hating his enemies.
This speech should definitely get more play.
first40 3 years ago 2
Never be petty...don't hate....spoken by the petty hater himself.
darius595 3 years ago
Nixon hated Tom Petty?LOL
doglips1958 3 years ago
He hated the rest of the Wilbury's too. He preferred Elvis over Orbison.
darius595 3 years ago
Peace out you crook!
meyersd66 3 years ago
Great quote
"Others may hate you, but they don't win unless you hate them, then you are destroyed."
Hatred is never pacified by hatred. It is only pacified by love. This is the law eternal - Lord Buddha
lumalive 3 years ago
I met him in San Clemente. He and I literally tripped out on the fact that you can slightly see the curve of our own earth from the beach. He pointed that out to me. Pretty nice fellow.
SOGGYmilktoast 3 years ago 3
I wonder many times what Nixon would say if he could see how far the Republican party has departed from the fundlemental principles in which he so deeply believed. Nixon came from the plain people and he always believed in them.
steffidude 3 years ago 2
Actually the development of the party, whether for better or worse, has followed along a very steady line from the policies and agenda of Nixon to those of Ford and then Reagan and then Bush and then Bush Jr. You don't see that? If not, then where exactly was the break-off point (assuming there was just one)?
todnyc 3 years ago
Nixon wasn't afraid to speak to our enemies (i.e. China) like mister "no appeaser" crazy Bushman Dubya.
So there's just one example, todnyc.
SpiritOf1775 3 years ago
easily one of the best speeches of all time. Done almost entirely without notes, except the quote read from TR, which shows the side of Nixon not seen enough, his genius!!!
Wonderful, wonderful speech. greatness does come when you are really tested, when you take some knocks when sadness comes. You absolutely need to have been in the deepest valley to know how magnificent it is on the hightest mountain. Brillant!! Brillant stuff!!
kajes5 3 years ago 6
The acclaimed Scottish psychiatrist Dr. Charles Follen McKim Maloney, a close friend of President Nixon, sent a bouqet of Zinnias to Pat Nixon following this speech.
locobuick 3 years ago
Great quote
"Others may hate you, but they don't win unless you hate them, then you are destroyed."
prashanth817 3 years ago 3
Yes, Prashanth817 - Lord Buddha preached the same thing, "Hatred is never pacified by hatred. It is only pacified by love. This is the law eternal"
lumalive 3 years ago
He also didn't like that faggedy place called Bohemians Grove...aka... NWO leisure escape.
TheForeteller 3 years ago
although not a republican I would say that nixon is by far the smartest leader that theyve had post war-
HEYARNOLD5 3 years ago 5
HeyArnold5;
I'm a Liberal Democrat, and I have a slightly different take on your observations. I'm not trying to pick your words apart.
The problem, as I see it, is that Nixon was NOT very "smart"......
Intelligent?? Without question or doubt.
The problem is that Richard Nixon lacked the kind of "street smarts" that could have saved his administration.
Outlaw1257 3 years ago
Nixon now.
mahneymagpie 3 years ago 4
those who hate you dont win unless you hate them, then you destroy yourself and then they win. what a wonderful quote
HEYARNOLD5 3 years ago 5
I agree...I think it's a memorable quote.
Wileeam507 3 years ago 2
A memorable quote, indeed.
If only Richard Nixon had been able to follow his own advice.....
Outlaw1257 3 years ago 3
if you watch this speech in full, it's one of the saddest speeches given by any president
coocoo4coca 3 years ago
Dad?? Tragic?? Absolutely!!
If only Nixon could have followed his own advice, he would have completed his term, and the country would have been far better off.
Still, the tawdry spectacle of Watergate pales in comparison to the crimes of Bush41,Bush43, Billary Clintons, and to some degree, Ronald Reagan.
Outlaw1257 3 years ago
What about Cambodia?
theteaboy89 3 years ago
Richard Nixon was, by far, one of the greatest presidents this country has ever had. He was a considerate, intelligent man, superior to any that preceded him and succeeded (or many) succeed him.
In an unrelated topic, I do not believe that Nixon had much to do with Watergate. I have a feeling that Republican lobbyists desired more information, and essentially cheated President Nixon out of his dignity and respect.
For shame.
smitty01209 3 years ago
Smitty;
I've wondered if John Dean possibly masterminded the break-ins at DNC.
Dean was obsessed with knowing about who was sleeping with whom, and The DNC was nothing but a clearing house for paper shuffling.
Still, travel arrangements, hotel reservations, and meetings were coordinated there.
I think that Dean may have thought that he could dig up some dirt in there.
Outlaw1257 3 years ago
Had watergate never happened, Nixon would be considered one of the all time great presidents. Ending the war without defeat (until Ford blinked), China, arms control with the Soviet Union, the EPA, etc, etc.
joe2stones 4 years ago
You know...I've always had this opinion on Nixon, that he was one of the worst presidents in U.S. history, but I've been watching videos from his candidacy with JFK, and he really wasn't that bad, with his views and such. And going down the way he did, he may not have been one of the greatest presidents, but I think putting him down there with Bush is a very ignorant statement. He was in no way WORSE than Bush.
Rogpog777 4 years ago
A great man.
joe2stones 4 years ago
its great stuff this...what a weird speech this was: his story offered as objective wisdom.
Just ODD
haldenver 4 years ago
Eliot Spitzer
mortysand 4 years ago
"Always remember, others may hate you, but those who hate you don't win, unless you hate them. And then, you destroy yourself."
Closest he ever came to a confession.
metafact 4 years ago 3
the last true american politician of our time , unfortunately he had a tragic Shakespearean quality to him .
afigirl1212 4 years ago 3