knew someone had recorded the original arrangement somewhere.... this is human warm and emotive... when it's done with string as per the more modern orchestrations.. it sounds like a misrable dirge.
If Tchaikovsky is not a genius then the word has lost all meaning....His music is simply brillint in both its conception and execution. His operas, ballets, symphonies and piano music all bear the hallmark of his genius. He conceived so many beautiful melodies.....one of my favorites is the Rose Adagio from Sleeping Beauty ballet. I love the music of Tchaikovsky and every Russian should be so proud to claim him as one of their very own.....great gift to the world.
this tempo is very fast, a lot faster than I've ever heard it, especially at the beginning. It should definitely be slower a the beginning, and then accelerate.
Can someone please tell me: which recording is this? When? By what orchestra and conductor? I'd love to buy this version if I could find it. Thans in advance! :)
i have the lyrics cause im gonna sing it with my chorus here in Puerto Rico for veterans day the real thing is that the song is much longer the choir after a intrumental part they have more participation ill post the later
Exelente ejecucion me gusto el ,espero que puedas postear la pista original con toda su duracion me gustaria ecuchar esta vercion completa saludos desde Mexico
The Dallas Symphony Orchestra has a CD recording of this with the full chorus and cannons. It is especially beautiful if you understand that the begining of this is an Orthodox (I am) prayer of deliverance from the French invaders. Beautiful, beautiful music.
Does the melody that plays in the end exist in real? I've hear that it's called God save the Tsar, but when i look it up on youtube i get some slow and nice anthem... strange that it doesn't exist anywhere...
while the original score (late 1800's) did indeed use hymns it did not have a choral version (that is to say Tchaikovsky did not write it to be sung by a choral sectionbut rather by the strings) the "choral versions" are an arrangement by Igor Buketoff in the mid-late 1900's. As to how closely the arrangement's lyrics follow the hymns I am uncertain of but the scores are public domain. The names of the hymns are: "God Preserve Thy People", and "God Save the Tsar"
for some years i was certain that the choral version was the original one. apparently the choral parts were added only later on, possibly not by tcheikocsky himself.
You're quite right, any choral version of 1812 Overture is not an original one. As far as I know, the version—with male chorus—to which you're listening at this video was created specially for that concert (and, by the way, it was our choir that took part in it).
Excellent. Could you please post this in it's entirety? It's only complete when it's all there. Even if you have to split it into multiple vids, please post the whole thing! Thanks! :D
Well the 1812 Overture is a mamoth work and the full orchetral version with bells and cannon is perhaps Tchaikovsky's greatest 'bombastic' work. But this version with chorus brings this work to a more sedate and enjoyable work.
And please correct me if Im wrong, this is just an interesting tid bit about Tchaikovsky. Was he homosexual? I have heard some "rumors" about this. Please bring all of your wonderful knowledge to bare on this quesiton. Thanks!
As much as I know he was homosexual. Because it was a "crime" in that time he had to keep it secret and he tried to "cure" it by marrieing an young woman. Of course it didn't work; the marriage was a disaster. There is also a rumor that he commited suicide by drinking this glas of unboiled water, because he was blackmailed to reveal his homosexuality to the Tsar and the public. But it is only a rumor!!
@Phusics He was homosexual and tried to kill himself by jumping in a river a short time after his wedding, but just got ill. The rumour goes he had sex with a prince, and to avoid scandal for the family and imprisonment for Tchaik, he was made to take poison
@Phusics if u ever read these again..this is actually Igor Buketoff 's version of Tchaikovsky's 1828 Overture, which had no chorus. Honestly, I really enjoy the chorus and I think it completes the piece. In fact, it took me a loooong time to actually find an almost full version with a good choir performance. Thanks!
@SirSmok3Alot225 If this is a Buketoff perf, it isn't the one I bought on RCA about 40 years ago. That one is still the only one with full choruses, including a children's chorus (at 3:00 on this abridged), and they were the most Russian-sounding non-Russian choruses (Brits as I recall) I've heard. The only problem was, his cannon were weak, sounded like rugs being pounded on a backyard line. The finale is posted elsewhere, check it out.
Honestly, who cares? Just close your eyes and enjoy the most wonderful piece of music given to us Instead of dwelling on a dead mans sexual preferences.
Rude? You went out of your way to shoot down a simple question about his life. As Phusics described so accuratley and in depth, Tchaikovsky's sexual preference had alot to do with his life...thus altering his compositions.
@nonamesleftatall1 yes I would also like to ask was Osar Wilde EM Foster WH Auden Gore Vidal Benjamin Britain Peter Peirs Long John Baldwery Elton John George Michael and Lady Gaga were they or have they ever been gay - I think we should be told.
The talent of these singers is undeniable, but I find the low strings (cello bass and viola) a more powerful and solemn entrance to this piece. Well done abridging the piece. You only used the 2 parts the piece is best known for.
I was priviliged to hear this piece performed in front of The Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in Moscow at the celebration of the 850th anniversary of Moscow.
The open air atmosphere accompanied by a magnificent choir means I will never forget the experience.
Oh my God! This is so perfect. I spent quite a long time looking for the piece WITH the chorus. My question though is: what are the chorus' lyrics in the beginning of the piece? Can't find them anywhere. Thanks in advance for any replies on this! (BTW: I'm interested in the Russian ones, not the translation).
Thank you very much for your comment. I've also tried to find any kind of lyrics of the beginning several times. And I also had no success :( Would be great if somebody knows the lyrics and could post them!
This is absolutely brilliant. I am moved to tears by the chorus which is such a natural addition. I have listened to 100's of versions of this piece, but now it only seems complete with the chorus. Can someone provide the complete lyrics for the beginning and end? The orchestration is wonderful. But I still like to hear real field cannon. When the new city Hall was opened in Toronto in the summer of 1962?, the TSO played this piece, with field artilllery and the old City Hall bells.
Wow, thanks a lot for such a passional comment! I can tell you the lyrics of the part from 8:26 - 8:54. From ~1833 till 1917, it was the anthem of the Russian Empire. Lyrics (english translation): God, protect the Tsar! Strong and majestic, Reign for glory, For our glory! Lyrics (english pronunciation of the russian words): Bozhe, Tsarya khrani! Sil'nyj, derzhavnyj, Tsarstvuj na slavu, Na slavu nam!
I agree! I am lucky enough to have seen this performed live last night, complete with the Russian chorus! I am so glad to have found this excellent recording!
This is a great version. To me, this song is incomplete without the chorus. The choir adds a lot of extra gravitas to an already spine-tingling symphony.
This is great! My 3-year old son is obsessed with the 1812 overture, so we've listened to dozens of performances of it. this one is really outstanding!! Thanks for posting!
Пожалусто! I'm very glad that you like this version of the 1812 and thak you for you comments.
In the video you hear the "Tchaikovsky Symphony Orchestra". The conductor is Vladimir Fedoseyev and it is played at the Grand Hall of the Moscow Conservatoire approximately in 1995.
knew someone had recorded the original arrangement somewhere.... this is human warm and emotive... when it's done with string as per the more modern orchestrations.. it sounds like a misrable dirge.
scopeophile 1 week ago
If Tchaikovsky is not a genius then the word has lost all meaning....His music is simply brillint in both its conception and execution. His operas, ballets, symphonies and piano music all bear the hallmark of his genius. He conceived so many beautiful melodies.....one of my favorites is the Rose Adagio from Sleeping Beauty ballet. I love the music of Tchaikovsky and every Russian should be so proud to claim him as one of their very own.....great gift to the world.
parzifal40 6 months ago
Love it <3 Bring on the canons! <3
Kell1295 6 months ago
this tempo is very fast, a lot faster than I've ever heard it, especially at the beginning. It should definitely be slower a the beginning, and then accelerate.
classicalop125best 7 months ago
The best version on youtube!
please, could you tell me, wich orchestra plays it? I really need to find this CD, it is my "good morning song" :)
gwozdezzz 9 months ago
Singing this in band :)
ThisIDoBelieve 9 months ago
Can someone please tell me: which recording is this? When? By what orchestra and conductor? I'd love to buy this version if I could find it. Thans in advance! :)
GojiGuru 9 months ago
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@GojiGuru
This version of 1812 Overture was recorded in February, 1995 at the Great Hall of the Moscow Conservatory.
The performers:
- Tchaikovsky Symphony Orchestra and Vladimir Fedoseyev (conductor and musical director);
- MEPHI Male Choir (the Male Choir of the Moscow Engineering Physics Institute)
The arrangement with male chorus, as far as I know, was made specially for that very performance.
MEPHIchoir 3 months ago
Dude, YOU CAN'T CUT THAT PART, THE WHOLE DRAMA STARTS AT 1:42
armonici 11 months ago
Lyrics (I have the score) although they are not quitehe same...
Spasi Gospodi liudi Tvoia
i blagoslovi
do stoianiie Tvoie
Pobedy boriushchimsia zaveru pravuiu i za sviatiui rus
na so protivnynia da ruia
I tvoie sokhrania ia
krestom tvoim shitel stvo
Natenoooo16 1 year ago
Really a good version of this masterpiece of classical music!
Fledermaus1990 1 year ago
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Which orchestra and choir is this? Who conducted? When was it recorded? Any info would be great. :)
GojiGuru 1 year ago
how can 3 people dislike this??!!
<3 :')
brovandsisproduction 1 year ago
@brovandsisproduction
They probably don't dislike the music, they just dislike the cuts the poster chose.
karrakis 10 months ago
i have the lyrics cause im gonna sing it with my chorus here in Puerto Rico for veterans day the real thing is that the song is much longer the choir after a intrumental part they have more participation ill post the later
rodriguezvelez 1 year ago
i have the lyrics for that song cause im gonna sing it here on puerto rico for veterans day in honor to them ill poste them later
rodriguezvelez 1 year ago
There is a Cyrillic character for ts, none for cz, so tsar as an English language rendering is more correct.
peter050647 1 year ago
Czar, just so you know, not Tsar...
thorstevie91 1 year ago
Exelente ejecucion me gusto el ,espero que puedas postear la pista original con toda su duracion me gustaria ecuchar esta vercion completa saludos desde Mexico
y gracias
Cyborgns 1 year ago
Hi from Fort Worth, Texas.
The Dallas Symphony Orchestra has a CD recording of this with the full chorus and cannons. It is especially beautiful if you understand that the begining of this is an Orthodox (I am) prayer of deliverance from the French invaders. Beautiful, beautiful music.
Thanks for posting this.
slt1691 1 year ago
Where's the Red Army Chorus when you need it!!!
keydet72 1 year ago
Does the melody that plays in the end exist in real? I've hear that it's called God save the Tsar, but when i look it up on youtube i get some slow and nice anthem... strange that it doesn't exist anywhere...
ZuperZeize 1 year ago
@ZuperZeize
What you found on youtube is what it really is.
slt1691 1 year ago
Has this conductor got a plane to catch ? Should have subbed himself so he didn't have to go !
horsemad1670 1 year ago
while the original score (late 1800's) did indeed use hymns it did not have a choral version (that is to say Tchaikovsky did not write it to be sung by a choral sectionbut rather by the strings) the "choral versions" are an arrangement by Igor Buketoff in the mid-late 1900's. As to how closely the arrangement's lyrics follow the hymns I am uncertain of but the scores are public domain. The names of the hymns are: "God Preserve Thy People", and "God Save the Tsar"
sickley1 1 year ago
for some years i was certain that the choral version was the original one. apparently the choral parts were added only later on, possibly not by tcheikocsky himself.
spiderlime 1 year ago
@spiderlime
You're quite right, any choral version of 1812 Overture is not an original one. As far as I know, the version—with male chorus—to which you're listening at this video was created specially for that concert (and, by the way, it was our choir that took part in it).
MEPHIchoir 1 year ago
@MEPHIchoir
i wonder if there's a list of the versions in chronological order somewhere?
spiderlime 1 year ago
Excellent. Could you please post this in it's entirety? It's only complete when it's all there. Even if you have to split it into multiple vids, please post the whole thing! Thanks! :D
birdingbum17 1 year ago
little slow at the end
MrMrmike5 1 year ago
I love the 1812 with chorus. It's just too bad that this conductor races through the piece like there's a prize at the end.
TheGrumpiestOldMan 1 year ago
Stupendous!
Woo5ter 1 year ago
Well the 1812 Overture is a mamoth work and the full orchetral version with bells and cannon is perhaps Tchaikovsky's greatest 'bombastic' work. But this version with chorus brings this work to a more sedate and enjoyable work.
ghadira 1 year ago
And please correct me if Im wrong, this is just an interesting tid bit about Tchaikovsky. Was he homosexual? I have heard some "rumors" about this. Please bring all of your wonderful knowledge to bare on this quesiton. Thanks!
nonamesleftatall1 1 year ago
@nonamesleftatall1:
Thanks a lot for your comments!! :-)
As much as I know he was homosexual. Because it was a "crime" in that time he had to keep it secret and he tried to "cure" it by marrieing an young woman. Of course it didn't work; the marriage was a disaster. There is also a rumor that he commited suicide by drinking this glas of unboiled water, because he was blackmailed to reveal his homosexuality to the Tsar and the public. But it is only a rumor!!
Phusics 1 year ago
@Phusics He was homosexual and tried to kill himself by jumping in a river a short time after his wedding, but just got ill. The rumour goes he had sex with a prince, and to avoid scandal for the family and imprisonment for Tchaik, he was made to take poison
metalheadFranny 1 year ago
@Phusics Ah, the ignorance of man. What other pieces of music may he have written were he not forced into such an early death?
mannwhite 1 year ago 2
@Phusics
There is also the possibility his patron agreed to marry him to dispell rumors of his homosexuality.
nicnacnic 1 year ago
@Phusics if u ever read these again..this is actually Igor Buketoff 's version of Tchaikovsky's 1828 Overture, which had no chorus. Honestly, I really enjoy the chorus and I think it completes the piece. In fact, it took me a loooong time to actually find an almost full version with a good choir performance. Thanks!
SirSmok3Alot225 11 months ago
@SirSmok3Alot225 If this is a Buketoff perf, it isn't the one I bought on RCA about 40 years ago. That one is still the only one with full choruses, including a children's chorus (at 3:00 on this abridged), and they were the most Russian-sounding non-Russian choruses (Brits as I recall) I've heard. The only problem was, his cannon were weak, sounded like rugs being pounded on a backyard line. The finale is posted elsewhere, check it out.
slothropgr 10 months ago
Honestly, who cares? Just close your eyes and enjoy the most wonderful piece of music given to us Instead of dwelling on a dead mans sexual preferences.
AztekGyrl 1 year ago
@AztekGyrl Dwelling? I asked one simple question about what I was curious about him...please involve yourself in a conversation intended for you....
nonamesleftatall1 1 year ago
oh,and rude, too...explains everything :)
AztekGyrl 1 year ago
Rude? You went out of your way to shoot down a simple question about his life. As Phusics described so accuratley and in depth, Tchaikovsky's sexual preference had alot to do with his life...thus altering his compositions.
nonamesleftatall1 1 year ago
@nonamesleftatall1 Yes. So what?!
Milverton68 1 year ago
@nonamesleftatall1 Yes He is! Look it up!
MrWermam1234 1 year ago
@nonamesleftatall1 yes I would also like to ask was Osar Wilde EM Foster WH Auden Gore Vidal Benjamin Britain Peter Peirs Long John Baldwery Elton John George Michael and Lady Gaga were they or have they ever been gay - I think we should be told.
IrishClaudius 6 months ago
You catch a glimpse of what im talking about at 1:21 to about 1:38
nonamesleftatall1 1 year ago
The talent of these singers is undeniable, but I find the low strings (cello bass and viola) a more powerful and solemn entrance to this piece. Well done abridging the piece. You only used the 2 parts the piece is best known for.
nonamesleftatall1 1 year ago
We performed this in our halftime show on the football field at Umass amherst. With the cannons. It was so empowering to perform :)
Tedwardlover 2 years ago
Yeah that was awesome
scantleguy 2 years ago
tchaikowskij.... qlcs di non commentabile :)
Maxirach 2 years ago 2
I was priviliged to hear this piece performed in front of The Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in Moscow at the celebration of the 850th anniversary of Moscow.
The open air atmosphere accompanied by a magnificent choir means I will never forget the experience.
Yoshik53 2 years ago 3
i have never seen this piece played live, but i hope i do some day. thank you for posting this wonderful recordig of all the chorus parts
TheKero12345 2 years ago
veramente qlcs di fantastico
Maxirach 2 years ago 3
This is awesome editing. Thanks for sharing.
magsasaka1960 2 years ago 3
Spasi Gospodi, lyudi tvoya
I blagoslovi dostoyanie tvoye.
*Pobedi pravoslavnim khristianom OR
*Pobedy boriushchimsia za veru pravuiu i za sviatuiu rus,
Na soprotivniya daruya;
I tvoyei sokhranyaya
Krestom tvoim zhitel'stvo.
Bozhe tsaria khrani, silny derzhavny,
tsarstvui na slavu, tsarstvui na strakh vragam.
I cannot make the starred lines match the performance; perhaps a native Russian/Orthodox church Slavic speaker could.
IntenseCharacter 2 years ago 16
Thanks a lot for the lyrics. It seems to fit very well. Good job :-)
Phusics 2 years ago
Wow lol thats really cool how you could decypher that. ARe you russian?
nonamesleftatall1 1 year ago
@IntenseCharacter i also have a choral score that's different from this performance for the starred lines. interesting (mine is the second)
glamiss 1 year ago
@IntenseCharacter Oh lord, Save/bless your People,
And bless those you have created.
The victory of orthadox Christians OR
The victory of those fighting for the true faith of the holy Russia/Rus'
Protecting us in our battle,
And saving our lives with your holy cross.
God Save the Tsar - Strong and Powerful,
Rule over us for glory, in fear of our enemies.
That would be a rough translation, some words it is hard to translate! :) Hope this helps.
alexpjp 8 months ago
Oh my God! This is so perfect. I spent quite a long time looking for the piece WITH the chorus. My question though is: what are the chorus' lyrics in the beginning of the piece? Can't find them anywhere. Thanks in advance for any replies on this! (BTW: I'm interested in the Russian ones, not the translation).
gar00sh 2 years ago 6
Thank you very much for your comment. I've also tried to find any kind of lyrics of the beginning several times. And I also had no success :( Would be great if somebody knows the lyrics and could post them!
Phusics 2 years ago
This version of 1812 Overture was recorded in February, 1995 at the Great Hall of the Moscow Conservatory.
The performers:
- Tchaikovsky Symphony Orchestra and Vladimir Fedoseyev (conductor and musical director);
- MEPHI Male Choir (the Male Choir of the Moscow Engineering Physics Institute)
MEPHIchoir 2 years ago 6
This is absolutely brilliant. I am moved to tears by the chorus which is such a natural addition. I have listened to 100's of versions of this piece, but now it only seems complete with the chorus. Can someone provide the complete lyrics for the beginning and end? The orchestration is wonderful. But I still like to hear real field cannon. When the new city Hall was opened in Toronto in the summer of 1962?, the TSO played this piece, with field artilllery and the old City Hall bells.
poissonnoir 2 years ago 12
Phusics 2 years ago
I agree! I am lucky enough to have seen this performed live last night, complete with the Russian chorus! I am so glad to have found this excellent recording!
Zesaestoa 2 years ago
Just wonderful! One of the best versions. Thanks.
anboleyn 2 years ago 3
This is a great version. To me, this song is incomplete without the chorus. The choir adds a lot of extra gravitas to an already spine-tingling symphony.
boughtoi 2 years ago 4
omg thank you so much!! :)
thomas271104 2 years ago 3
You are Welcome! I'm gland you like it :-)
Phusics 2 years ago
The choir at the beginning is singing "God preserve thy people" which is a Russian Orthodox hymn
smarnot 2 years ago 3
This is one of the most famous Orthodox hymns — the so called Troparion of the Holy Cross:
O Lord, save your people,
and bless your inheritance!
Grant victory to the Orthodox Christians
over their adversaries,
and by virtue of your cross,
preserve your habitation.
MEPHIchoir 2 years ago 3
This is great! My 3-year old son is obsessed with the 1812 overture, so we've listened to dozens of performances of it. this one is really outstanding!! Thanks for posting!
TeamElOso 2 years ago 6
Phusics, спасибо for this wonderful recording! Do you have any idea of when it was made?
asnodgrass2 2 years ago 2
Пожалусто! I'm very glad that you like this version of the 1812 and thak you for you comments.
In the video you hear the "Tchaikovsky Symphony Orchestra". The conductor is Vladimir Fedoseyev and it is played at the Grand Hall of the Moscow Conservatoire approximately in 1995.
But I could not find out what choir is singing.
Phusics 2 years ago
Is this from the 1997 JVC recording of the "Forbidden Works" ...and why were they forbidden?
TeamElOso 2 years ago
What a genius this man was...
ChristopherFeeken 3 years ago 4
Amazing...no words...:-O
lobocop1 3 years ago 2
TERRIFIC!!! NICE !!! I LOVE THIS!
salsadance999 3 years ago 2
I hadn't heard this song with a chorus, it's terrific!
Supergore 3 years ago 2